Lowko: "Technically Hydras can be considered an anti-air unit but no." Hydras: "Fine, kill the next Mothership that pops out with Lurkers and Roaches, and we'll stay home."
I think the mutas were just to close out the game. Dark knew that he was far ahead, but vs blinkstalkers roach ravager isnt great, as they can get kited for quite a bit. With mutas on the other hand, he can use his ground army to make the stalkers run while the mutas hunt them down. And if the stalkers try to stand their ground vs the mutas, the roach ravager can catch up and the stalkers have to run again. So at some point he can force an engagement without losing to much on the way. Of course that only works that well if you are so far ahead, that your air and your ground are both a thread on their own to the protos army. And yes, if you have enough mutas (id say 25-30) with one or two attack upgrades, they will slice their way through stalkers, because you can stack them, while the stalkers need space to fight. At this point the protos player either needs storm and/or archons. It would already be too late to start up phoenixes, the mutas would just camp the stargates.
@@Tonius126 Mandatory military service has pulled away more of the top pro protoss players than zerg and terran. Though there are a good number of the best pro zergs and terrans that have that looming over them, like serral and dark.. who are likely to start their service this year. And the ladder win rates looks A Lot different than pro win rates. So protoss Looks like they need a buff because more of their best have been pulled away than anyone else, and when they come back (if they come back to pro gaming), they not only are rusty but have to catch up with the skill creep that didnt stop while they were gone.
@@Uncle_Nigel Like South Korea, Finland has mandatory military service, and he mentioned in one of his streams recently that he's probably going to start basic training this year
Ray the Void Ray was right there! XD Great games as always, and one of the best cast out there too! Really like sprinkling a bit of twitch chat to help lessen the mental load of the cast!
Lowko starting the year strong with amazing casts that just don't let up! Hey Lowko I've been thinking of words to use in your cast and I think "sanguine" should probably be used at least once in every Dark game.
I think the 20 mutas in the first game was reasonable given the lings and ravagers already part of Dark's core army. Mutas mitigate the stalker's mobility, and inherently puts the Protoss into a lose/lose situation if he can outmatch the stalkers in a direct fight, and punish the mineral line if he enters a stalemate with his ground army.
I love to use your videos to sleep, but sometimes your thumbnail and title game goes SO strong. Dark in the title, mass nydus worms in the thumbnail, I am hooked
I believe in the campaign Kerrigan's Vipers do have a small air to air auto attack in addition to their abilities. I think it would be fair for Vipers to have some small auto attack since it's so easy for them to fly off and get melted. I don't see that as zerg bias. My zerg bias wishes we could have one Leviathan with powers like how protoss gets a mama-ship.
You too wants to waste minerals and gas for a bad unit ? But too be fair they could add that attack to the infestor and viper but it won't change much. Unless they have a stupid range if they go forward they would still die. If you look at it, high templar are still on a separate hotkey and if they ever use their aa it is to die in the next second. To be fair on this Stormgate devs got it right. All their caster have an auto attack which allow them to stay well placed but also add interesting effects next to it
Best off 2s make me feel like more of the decision making could be bias and that's just the way the world works now. Social credit scores work the same way as best of 2s
MaxPax canceled his 3rd armor upgrade at 26:15 when nearly finished... big mistake, the 3:3 against 3:0 timing would have been massive, even the whole 3:3 vs 3:1 time.. not the biggest difference, but definitely a big one.
Vipers don't have auto attacks because they can refill their energy from sucking on buildings. If they could refill energy AND auto attack, then they would be op.
Not sure a weak auto attack that keeps them from racing into enemy armies would make them OP. If it did as much damage as non-casters for sure... but like the high templar? Im not sure about that
@@bloodydove5718 A viper can abduct, parabomb or blind, and them immediately turn around and refill its energy, unlike other casters that have to wait as their energy slowly refills. I'm sure blizzard took out an auto attack on purpose, because then the viper would be too op.
@@Phi1618033 They didnt take out an auto attack, the viper never had one. And giving a caster the ability to not run to its death isnt overpowering lol. If it did high templar damage (which is less than a probe/drone/scv lol), then thats not going to break the game. The high templar also didnt use to have an auto attack, but they gave it one so that it wouldnt instantly die because to something that unfair
it's like you got two teams of, say, five players each. A1 vs B1 was 0:2 A2 vs B2 was 1:1 A3 vs B3 was 1:1 A4 vs B4 was 2:0 A5 vs B5 was 0:2 total score is 4:6 and the team B wins
@@cyberkekosis Thanks for the explanation. Calling it "Bo2" is confusing at best. This format would benefit from its own name (like round robin, swiss format, etc).
8:08 seen from p hovering 800´+ resources 4bat,1pho, 2 pylons, easy def. but pro players would rather die with 10.000 resources than throw down some off that as a proper static.... so dumb, and frustrating to watch :P
also wth is up with protoss never full walling anywhere`? unless you are going there everywhere should be full wall, and workers particularly should always be fully walled in, either recall them if they need to or warp prism out if need to. it auto defend 90% off Z runby and drone harass.
10:02 bc pro players hate static defences so i bet you those mutas will do the dmg to put up 20 static defences, 10 in each base easily before those muta's are done ^^
Lowko: "Technically Hydras can be considered an anti-air unit but no."
Hydras: "Fine, kill the next Mothership that pops out with Lurkers and Roaches, and we'll stay home."
Group the queens with the spores. Mind blown.
Also. Good game and cast
I wonder if Dark knows something we don't, like was 20 Mutas enough that splash damage left the stalkers vulnerable to some breakpoint of ravagers?
I think the mutas were just to close out the game. Dark knew that he was far ahead, but vs blinkstalkers roach ravager isnt great, as they can get kited for quite a bit. With mutas on the other hand, he can use his ground army to make the stalkers run while the mutas hunt them down. And if the stalkers try to stand their ground vs the mutas, the roach ravager can catch up and the stalkers have to run again. So at some point he can force an engagement without losing to much on the way. Of course that only works that well if you are so far ahead, that your air and your ground are both a thread on their own to the protos army.
And yes, if you have enough mutas (id say 25-30) with one or two attack upgrades, they will slice their way through stalkers, because you can stack them, while the stalkers need space to fight. At this point the protos player either needs storm and/or archons. It would already be too late to start up phoenixes, the mutas would just camp the stargates.
Nah he's just being Dark
@@Daniel-rd6styou had me until you said camp the Stargate lol
Camp it, blow it up, where is the difference :D@@deafdanny6299
@@deafdanny6299 Yeah, that part was weird, as if you have that many mutas the stargate would be dead in a few hits anyway.
Its hard for me to cheer for zerg or terran but dark is by far the most entertaining player to watch and I cheer for him all the time 😂
Yeah, Protoss needs a buff.
@@Tonius126 they got like 84 million buffs this decade, maybe they need someone who actually knows how to play as good as Dark/Maru/Clem do?
@@Tonius126 Mandatory military service has pulled away more of the top pro protoss players than zerg and terran. Though there are a good number of the best pro zergs and terrans that have that looming over them, like serral and dark.. who are likely to start their service this year.
And the ladder win rates looks A Lot different than pro win rates.
So protoss Looks like they need a buff because more of their best have been pulled away than anyone else, and when they come back (if they come back to pro gaming), they not only are rusty but have to catch up with the skill creep that didnt stop while they were gone.
@@bloodydove5718 why would serral go to the military?
@@Uncle_Nigel Like South Korea, Finland has mandatory military service, and he mentioned in one of his streams recently that he's probably going to start basic training this year
Ray the Void Ray was right there! XD Great games as always, and one of the best cast out there too! Really like sprinkling a bit of twitch chat to help lessen the mental load of the cast!
Lowko starting the year strong with amazing casts that just don't let up! Hey Lowko I've been thinking of words to use in your cast and I think "sanguine" should probably be used at least once in every Dark game.
Lowko calling out Harstem's voidray usage & me remembering the episode of IMBA where Harstem saw it: "The cycle is completed!"
Sometimes I wish there were rollback tournaments played on WoL or HotS
Could be a fun format with Bo2 series
WoL Ravens OP! Plus Reapers were super strong back then!
@@Pedalboredin WoL you need an add on for reaper
@@ChaineRubis true. I forgot that. About 8 reapers in your base could destroy all your pylons so fast though!
I think the 20 mutas in the first game was reasonable given the lings and ravagers already part of Dark's core army. Mutas mitigate the stalker's mobility, and inherently puts the Protoss into a lose/lose situation if he can outmatch the stalkers in a direct fight, and punish the mineral line if he enters a stalemate with his ground army.
right at the start you can recognize the progamer just saying "gl" having fun has long gone of the table
LOL best explanation of a best of 2 I have heard. The first winner wins but you play a second game and let the other person win so you aren't toxic.
I don't know what I would do without your videos Lowko. Thank you.
I approve of Vicky the Void Ray, but I might pitch Raymond
omg Viki the Viking... Lowko you absolute monster... this hit so hard... i almost forgot about that :o)
I love to use your videos to sleep, but sometimes your thumbnail and title game goes SO strong. Dark in the title, mass nydus worms in the thumbnail, I am hooked
That second game with mass hydra/lurker was just mean. Dark had map control the entire time. Slowly wore down his opponent. Well played.
I believe in the campaign Kerrigan's Vipers do have a small air to air auto attack in addition to their abilities. I think it would be fair for Vipers to have some small auto attack since it's so easy for them to fly off and get melted. I don't see that as zerg bias. My zerg bias wishes we could have one Leviathan with powers like how protoss gets a mama-ship.
You too wants to waste minerals and gas for a bad unit ?
But too be fair they could add that attack to the infestor and viper but it won't change much. Unless they have a stupid range if they go forward they would still die. If you look at it, high templar are still on a separate hotkey and if they ever use their aa it is to die in the next second.
To be fair on this Stormgate devs got it right. All their caster have an auto attack which allow them to stay well placed but also add interesting effects next to it
I like how lokow is going with prank channel titles
Yeah I know. Was expecting twenty nydus worms to pop out of the ground at the same time. 😂
Obviously Rayray the Void Ray
Vinny the Voidray
Vicky the Viking! I remember watching that as a kid too. I think it was a German show.
a little astérix, thats a pleonasm right there
Vinnie the Voidray :D
Those Hydras though, pew pew pew …
About Wicky the viking, i can confirm that there was an anime show like that in the 90s in German TV
MEE TO they paid the Japanese to do it
That show was around since at least the mid 70s because my father watched it as a small child.
The time Blizzard has inserted All Army Hotkey I've disabled the shortcut afraid of losing my troops.
I love how I now just associate the nydus with Dark. I didn't even need to read the title to know who was playing.
It's funny im pretty sure viper does have an attack in the hots campaign to make them less suicidal
I always thought the Void Ray looked like a Rachel.
Wickie was based on swedish books - and the show was made in Japan.
VIGO! The carpathian voidray!
Raymond the void ray .. duuh. Void Raymond
Lurkers give me nightmares 😂
Well mr. Lowko. I have seem billions of banelings.
I saw the title and clicked play. I was not dissappointed
What does the Lurker attack look like if the ground were clear?
21:16 How about, Viktor the Void Ray??
Name for Void Rays: “Ray” It’s actually a normal name in North America funny enough.
Vinny the void Ray lol
21:20 Void Ray --> Chad Ray 😎
Poor Vinnie the Void Ray
Vance the Voidray (Prismatic Lance Vance :D)
I'd say Viktor, but that one should probably be reserved for the viking
So Vicky it is I guess
Best off 2s make me feel like more of the decision making could be bias and that's just the way the world works now. Social credit scores work the same way as best of 2s
I'd personally love if vipers were given an auto-attack that recovered a tiny bit of energy per hit...
great game!
Viktor the void ray comrade
“Vitor the Voidray”
I don't even know how hero does so good. He's just got great game sense cause he doesn't micro well and he f2s
Consider Veronica the void ray
Viktor the Voidray
@lowko please give a name to that Void Ray!
Viktor the void ray
@LowkoTV Vlad the Void Ray 21:25
Void ray = Raymond
Maybe a nitpick but it's a bit misleading to call it a 'best of 2' series because 'best of' means there will be a definite winner in the end
Ray the voidray
Void Rays should clearly be nicknamed Veto. Vega if its a woman.
Oracles can be nicknamed Orson or Opal
"hey hey vicki, die vikinger" how the fuck you know about that?! getting old lowko?
Mothership meme writes itself
pretty much a white flag
So how does a best of 2 work over and over and over again?
Vlad the void ray.
Raymond the Voidray ;p
Vincent the voidray
I don't know what voidrays are....do you mean Chadrays?
Vlad the Void Ray
Perhaps the reason you keep having to explain what a best of two is, is that such a thing doesn't exist. :p
(It's just a two game series.)
Void ray name could be voira (voy-ra)
Ray J the Void Ray or Void Ray Romano
8 minutes ago holy hi lowko! (will watch this in next shower)
Darks worms have gone wild? 😏
What’s best of two? How does it work?
Hey lowko what is a 2v2 and how does it work?
Whats the best of two and how does it work?
MaxPax canceled his 3rd armor upgrade at 26:15 when nearly finished... big mistake, the 3:3 against 3:0 timing would have been massive, even the whole 3:3 vs 3:1 time.. not the biggest difference, but definitely a big one.
Thommy the Voidray?
what's a best of 2, and how does it work?
Vera the void ray
Vipers don't have auto attacks because they can refill their energy from sucking on buildings. If they could refill energy AND auto attack, then they would be op.
ghosts with cloak enters the chat
Not sure a weak auto attack that keeps them from racing into enemy armies would make them OP. If it did as much damage as non-casters for sure... but like the high templar? Im not sure about that
@@bloodydove5718 A viper can abduct, parabomb or blind, and them immediately turn around and refill its energy, unlike other casters that have to wait as their energy slowly refills. I'm sure blizzard took out an auto attack on purpose, because then the viper would be too op.
@@Phi1618033 They didnt take out an auto attack, the viper never had one. And giving a caster the ability to not run to its death isnt overpowering lol. If it did high templar damage (which is less than a probe/drone/scv lol), then thats not going to break the game.
The high templar also didnt use to have an auto attack, but they gave it one so that it wouldnt instantly die because to something that unfair
Still dont understand what best of two is 😢
it's like you got two teams of, say, five players each.
A1 vs B1 was 0:2
A2 vs B2 was 1:1
A3 vs B3 was 1:1
A4 vs B4 was 2:0
A5 vs B5 was 0:2
total score is 4:6 and the team B wins
@@cyberkekosis Thanks for the explanation. Calling it "Bo2" is confusing at best. This format would benefit from its own name (like round robin, swiss format, etc).
Voigh the voidray?
Why do zealots never get promoted?
They always charge ahead without thinking.
I don't know if you remember, but you hated double stargate voidray back then.
Name the void rays after dbz characters.
What about William the voidray?
Vex the voidray
IS LOWKO’S NAME SIMON?!?!?!?
according to liquipedia, it is
Tomas the void
Gone wild, huh?
How does Bo2 works?
Hate best of 2s if I haven't mentioned
I dub thee... Lloyd the Void...ray.
one thing Dark could do is turn on a light so he wouldn't be in the dark anymore.
LowKo eats a COUPLE (like 7 of them since he thinks 3 or more means a couple) of boogers for breakfast 🍳
What's a best of 2 how does it work (Sorry Lowko I'm joking)
r/wormsGW
8:08 seen from p hovering 800´+ resources 4bat,1pho, 2 pylons, easy def. but pro players would rather die with 10.000 resources than throw down some off that as a proper static.... so dumb, and frustrating to watch :P
also wth is up with protoss never full walling anywhere`? unless you are going there everywhere should be full wall, and workers particularly should always be fully walled in, either recall them if they need to or warp prism out if need to. it auto defend 90% off Z runby and drone harass.
10:02 bc pro players hate static defences so i bet you those mutas will do the dmg to put up 20 static defences, 10 in each base easily before those muta's are done ^^
ow it straight up ended the game. 700+ min that should have been statics, would have won that fight or garanteed safe defense..
21:53 1k mineral not a single static defence in main. and very small static for a frontline base...
24:08 imagine that fight with some off that 2200minerals actually being statics helping out or just shieldbats to recharge at.... sloppy macro
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6th
you are so biased towards zerg.... :)
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