Dark dominated this match so hard I got jealous. StarCraft 2 Finals
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- SC2 Korean StarCraft 2 League Finals - I'm not even trying avoid spoilers here. Dark just casually humiliates Classic in this unbelievable Zerg vs Protoss series. Classic doesn't play poorly, Dark just doesn't care.
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"This was more one-sided than a Mobius strip" is a classic (ha!) Winter quote that still make me smile every time.
I love the nerd jokes. There's a satisfying self-realization turned into 10% laugh about yourself for knowing it.
Oh thats glorious
Ah yes, the tier 1 queen, the perfect counter to the tier 3 protoss unit. Just like the tier 1 marines. Such a wonderfully balanced game. Queens, banes, lings and corruptors vs Archons, High Templar w/ Storm, Carriers, Stalkers and Zealots. Truly a well balanced game.
Dark is absolutely disgusting, feral and primal. He is the swarm.
Who did you think Kerrigan answered to? xD
I love the beacon music!!!!
DARK! DARK! DARK!
I think I'm probably wrong here but I've never seen Classic win on this channel so I'm half suspecting this is a running gag for Winter and I'm just slow on the pick up 🤣
i guess you could say that, the gag is a classic.......🐑🥁🐍
It is ridiculous how zerg is so imba
boring 3-0 games
Everything Dark does is illegal. Somehow it works. And I love it
edit: also, Classic send this to Harstem for an imba report
I was just thinking the same thing! HAHA
This goes directly to IMBA or i suck ahaha
it works because protoss has shit units
He looks like a Mongolian warlord, at least in Winter's trading card.
Is dark Imba or classic sucks
I think these games were Dark responding to a claim that he's lost his touch.
Jesus Christ. The last several minutes of the final game, Dark had like 80% of his army supply just waiting at home while he toyed around with the Golden Armada using just two hit squads of zerglings...and it was WORKING. Dark is a fucking mad lad.
Ya, that was crazy... Classic's army just seemed way too slow to respond to those hit squads. It's just not agile enough.. When Classic's Armada finally reaches one hit squad, they just burrow in the corner and Classic's force just standing there cleaning up the burrowed lings while another hit squad hits another base.
At that point it seemed like Classic just felt defeated. He spent so much time chasing zerglings with no counterattack, no pressure, not even really scouting Dark. Honestly felt like he was waiting to be killed
Dark really sent a whole cheerleader squad for a couple of herolisks
in G1, i tought that early carriers were the only carriers that could be efficient against Dark. Any later and they get mind controlled / hooked to death as we have seen so many times. But even that is not enough !
The early carrier strat seems strong for the ladder. But Dark shrugged it off ! i can't remember the last time i saw a pro game finished by complete destruction of buildings.
Yeah, how tilted was Classic?
Dark this year has been such a blast to watch. Love the way you cast his games
What DID Classic do to Dark to deserve this?
Pretending to be playing RTS by picking Protoss. Thats my guess
@@glimftw7255😂
Armies at 57:35
Classic: 129
Dark: 103
Armies at 57:56
Classic: 42
Dark: 110
Dark is inhuman.
You make this game so entertaining 😂 🙏🏽
favorite competitive caster imo. love to see winter invited to be an official sc tournament caster.... the ones they got just ramble uneccentric nonsense
Is this winters way of telling us he wants to get dommed by dark 🤔
And you don't?
@@RyuFelinshire like anyone has a choice
@@RyuFelinshire you know I do 🥵🥵🥵
If Dark, Hero, Cure, and Classic were archetypical anime characters, Hero is the protagonist who's sly, charismatic, always fighting the good fight. Dark is the villain/anti-hero, not afraid of underhanded tactics and dirty tricks; he is foreign to honor, and deaf to pleas for mercy. Cure is the protagonist's best friend, who has a secondary rivalry with the main antagonist, and is usually on the losing end, but occasionally gets the better of the villain in his own right. Then there's Classic, who's like the other friend, whose main role in the story to occasionally remind everybody why it is they call Dark, "The Final Boss".
Pylon strapped to the front of the void, is strapylon, shortly strapon. The whole series is absolute banger, and cast is awesome too. Super entertaining, thanks a lot. Just made my evening. Dark will get queens nerfed. Again
Caught another one early! Liked for the pink shirt, which is hype.
I'm a simple man; I see Winter casting a Dark game, I click :)
This is. Possibly the thirstiest Dark-related title thus far. And we appreciate you for it
Dark can't keep getting away with this! He will, though.
need to get vision
build queens
need to play defense early/mid/late
build queens
need to increase yer economy
build queens
need anti air
build queens
need to beat carriers
build queens
need to heal up some units
build queens
queens unironically might be a bigger bandaid unit for zerg than mothership cores were for protoss
A base trade against zerg, that has many bases spread all around the map, with +3 adrenal zergling using such slow protoss army is very bad choice. Staying in game to get eliminated completly is a gentleman move
Dark plays for uninstalls. He has no interest in the money or the prestige, all he wants is to know that the opponent removed the game from their harddrive.
You forgot to put an age rating on this video Winter. This is definitely NSFW...
26:20 Dark was like "Oh, I see you're trying to get into your own base with the Adepts. Lemme help you."
Thank You
Om nom nom
that little rant about dark @28:15 to 29:30 was just wonderful, would make an amazing clip lol
I came here to watch some starcraft games... not for torture that ends in a brutal murder.
"Stop! STOP! He's already dead!"
veryone acts surprised, but we all know queen is a busted 150mineral unit, base armor , no extra damage from units since its not heavy or light, BUSTED heal ammount, big HP pool, doesnt even use larva to be made, how about we tune down the queen and buff other zerg units
Incredible. We need more Dark on this channel
I know next to nothing about modern SC2.
But i still find myself wondering wtf is Classic doing?
I feel like there's a lot of psychological pressure affecting this game.
55:00 THIS is what im talking about!! I havent played SC2 in years but im sitting here, a bronze level player, wondering "huh why isnt anyone in pro games using microbial cloud, doesnt that block ranged damage or something? wasnt it in SC1 too?". AND FINALLY 1 single guy uses it, in all of the pro games i've ever seen.
I think Dark may be my new favorite zerg. I think he IS a zerg irl, because he sure thinks like one, with the nydus / creep / spore / spine push.
Is there a Zerg building that triggers the "Fusion core/fleet beacon" tune (can't remember the official name from the LotR movie)
12:21 I think Dark won that fight because Classic killed so many of his own interceptors.
This. He neutered his own fleet with storms.
How can one see Hero Vs Dark and not watch
But also - where's ma gad damn 5h ladder videos winter
Dark hit Classic with every spell known to man at the end of game 3. That's some "Beating GM w/ stupid stuff" right there.
There was definitely something personal in this... I can see why winter likes Dark so much. ;)
The beacon is lit, and the fleet has been called!
Enough to deserve a like without asking for it xd
Toss is a joke right now.
Against Dark, everything is a joke.
Don't do it classic, they have the high ground
Love your content! Gorgeous commentary, and a GREAT SERIES! Keep up the good work!. Love From Argentina!!
I love Dark. But tbh, I think zerg right now is weak in the meta vs Terran, which is why Terran is dominating zerg now is the GSL finals Korea, and zerg is also widely dominated by every race statistically, under Master level (I believe)
Vs Protoss it's okay I think
Maybe Terran is slightly OP right now, the results say so
>it's not even your main base anymore
Yes, it is not: it's a staging area that treatens 2 bases. So while trying to clear it by storming through a very narrow choke wasn't the best call, removing that foothold before moving across the map imo was a viable decision. I bet it's not beyond dark to spread scouting lings through the map the moment that he stops seeing the main protoss army and just drop the hammer the moment he spots the push half of the map away from his bases.
classic was dead either way
Gotta say to Mr Winter that your casting has improved moreso this year, noticing you evolve makes you have a talent my guy 🙏
Game 1 really showcasing why carriers are really not that good. They get absolutely rolled by corruptors on similar cost/supply, even when ahead on upgrades. After the interceptor priority fix so Carriers aren't heavily taxing the Zerg player's micro, they never seem to look particularly impressive in these pvz games between top players.
Game 3 showing that microbial shroud is actually good (especially vs carriers because its damage reduction is before armor; Interceptors at +3 end up doing 1 damage per hit to queens/hydras with +3 carapace)
game 3 was like dark being in his laboratory trying new means to decimate the enemy
I don't remember ever seeing Winter take his headset off like that! LMFAO brutal.
you are kind of growing on me.....brendaaaaaaaaaaaa
I'm probably a few patches late since this was uploaded, but what I'm about to refer to was at least one full SC2 iteration ago... And I don't think Protoss was nerfed in the last few patches, anyway.
But with ZvP play like this, and from one Canadian commenting on another's comment: How could Scarlett have EVER claimed "ProtossIMBA"??
Great casts, Winter! Keep the content coming man.
that first big battle of the first game, classic killed 43 of his own interceptors
I couldn't help but think of GGG's no death run challenge of SC2's campaign: "I tried to save as many zealots as i could, but Karas STORMS HIS OWN UNITS!" Classic really channeled his inner Karas that game.
I think he would of done better if he didn't research storm...
@@ironmonkey1512 He should have been using feedback on the Queens.
I genuinely think Darks mindset was....huh how much crazy shit can i get away with.
Especially after game 2 which was disgusting...but game 3...wow I don't have the words for the filth I just witnessed.
Whoever was behind the latest patch, like all of the people on this so-called "balance council" should not be allowed to continue weighing in on future balance patches. They are awful at it.
I've never LOL'ed so much watching a pro SC2 match from the commentary. Classic!
some 1 pls timestamp the thumbnail, i got no time 2 watch i have 2 sleep
so watch tomorrow. show some respect to the lord of Darkness
Archons are a lie ... they beat the ultralisks in the cinematic... how can blizzard be so disrespectful to the protoss... where is the Archon black hole , the massive punching power... why does zerg make protoss cry., why doesn't templar storm instant kill zerglings and shred hydras... its so sad and expensive
I love this .. I remember when EVERY good player was Korean and Protoss at the same time (ok sometimes Terran - Maru). And I always had heart for foreign Zergs like Scarlett. This month I get back to watch everything and zerg players dominated the scene .. we have Serral, Dark, Reynor, Scarlett, what a lovely time for zerg fans 😅
I think that the zerg is hardest to pull off right to manage properly so it's basically harder/more training for zerg players 😅 .. that shows on Reynor playing Toss so good
Well, if you have a fleet of carriers in the earliest timing as possible, but you don’t wall off well and you are not taking advantage of the fleet … then yeah. Especially, you have a bank more than enough to the wall off and you still don’t wall off. Honestly, all you have are air units. The wall won’t block off your units, and a probe doesn’t need to stay there to construct the wall like SUV or drone. The fleet just stayed idle for so long waiting for the Zerg to build the counter. Also bad micro, storming your own units, didn’t focus on taking out Zerg’s anti-air first…
Transfuse number must have been the HOT ticks.
As a protoss player I'll go watch Dark lose to ShowTime to detox
Honestly, doesn't feel good watching protoss lose so hard, I just watch because it's winter
im so sorry you had to witness our swarm lord's annihilation of your kind. Please, allow us to gift you these banelings as a consolation prize lmao. no fr though, im a zerg player and i even flinched at this atrocity.
"ten probes down , i believe Banelings were heavily involved" u gotta love winter s casting XXXDDD
Honestly, Dark just played this fairly well. whenever classic tried to stop his creep spread he just counterattacked with the zerg, and classic made the mistake to not play decisively.
Sad.... but classic rage quit now. Thanks blizzard for needing protons go the ground
Mighty Carrier fleet, totally owned by Zerg Queens and Corruptors. Ouch!
you wanna know what classic did to dark he went carriers match one and one does simply go carriers vs dark 😂
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Wow! The games are insane. In game 2 he went up the ramp to protect the 3rd. He could of protected 3rd another way but he had like no tec, so up the ramp he goes, he should of abadon 3rd and made a 4th sowere else and try to rebuild the tec tree. On third game he should of made 2 cyber or 3 in different places. Think of it as rushing the att,armor. and shield.
I reckon the disrespect is not leaving the game when you got zero probes and not enough money to rebuild. Maybe in lower leagues like mine you might be able to feign something but against Dark ? Just wasting time in that situation its GG.
I don't play starcraft 2, I don't particularly like SC2, but I watch you cast
how many times do we need to see op zerg killing the always 3rd place finishing protoss, before well,, never mind..
12:37 look who ACTUALLY killed the carriers as weapons - ie killed the interceptors.
+3 Adrenal Lings and Ultras... The best anti-air in the game. lol
Thanks bro
i dont play SC even i can tell there's beef here
3rd game 9min he straight up walk out on the win and just let him rebuild for a big dance
if zerg do so much more extractor tricks, just go steal their extractor with scout probe in PvZ no?
protoss bad
FuK yeah boyz! weekend time! thanks winter! love your content, plz never ever stop.
I think this is the first time I've ever seen a pro Starcraft game end due to building elimination. It almost never happens
Ladder anxiety != Ladder Relaxation/Confidence/Zennitude/Spa time
That first match should be called karma. It makes me so happy to see a protoss carrier noob get what they deserve. Yes I'm calling classic a noob. Bite me
This was painful to watch. I was just cringing for Classic at every turn.
26:30 Dark is like: oh, you're playing on my team now?
So if I carrier rush?
There ain't nothing to it,
Day[9] made me do it
There was a series to this sheesh classic just likes getting picked on Dark ohh you got carriers no need of flying units
Dark will come for you and you will do nothing, because you can do nothing
Trivia : Queen Elizabeth II had the nickname Brenda.
40:08 so this is the meme about Brenda 🫣😹 So every zerg base is basically retirement home 😅
Darks mother should slap him in his hands for playing with his food ;/
Game 1 was so disrespectful, I love it
yo all 3 rounds were disrespectful. what were you looking at? lmao, bro slaughtered classic PUBLICLY, just woke up and chose violence, total annihilation. xD
So...could there be an argument, perhaps, that protoss is underpowered? Max-tech protoss units (minus upgrades, admittedly) powerless against mid-tier zerg.
No, they're statistically the best race even still. They have the most wins in pro matches and the most consistent in ladder as well with Terran being close but a bit behind and Zerg being in dead last.
@@chaotikkiller1617 In the hands of peasants, Protoss is probably the strongest by a good amount. But in the hands of the masters, it's the other way around. I only watch pro games, so I think that's unfortunate, but that's how the races are designed.
@@tankbuggeru You're wrong, even in pro and high level games Protoss is consistently top tier in all categories except literally the top like 10 players, they only had 1 win in premier matches vs 3 for Terran and Zerg but had 6 wins in Majors and 143 in Minors vs 3/4 and 100/87 for Terran and Zerg respectively. In Ladder as well, there are like 260 Protoss above 5k MMR, 220 Terran and like 160 Zerg.
@@chaotikkiller1617 By pro I mean like GSL code S, and the results are just terrible for protoss. I don't give a rats ass about what happens on the ladder, as I will never watch those games.
@@tankbuggeru So like I said, the only time it changes off protoss being the top is literally the top 10 players and that's only really because Maru, Dark, GuMiho, Cure, and Solar are really really strong players at Terran and Zerg. Overall pro matches protoss still wins in everything but majors.
A biiiiit late to the party on this one. That was dirty. I need to take a shower after that series.
The best dang ol starcraft 2 comentary there ever was hombre.
Unlike Terran, protoss buildings are stuck where they are
Unlike Zerg, protoss workers don't get to hide
Such lulz
Protoss workers don’t commit suicide to finish a building like a drone does.
@@therealbacalao1402don't think that matters when you're base trading and want to save your workers
@@GameFuMaster as a zerg player you should have the better economy due to how fast you can spread creep all over the place. destroy creep and prevent expansion and benefits to control more of the map. honestly queens were classics bane here and if he had controlled the spread of the creep in game one, he might have been able to prevent such critical masses of queens from being too effective barring a nydus push. into 3rd or main
and having the superior economy means drones are more replaceable in the long run anyhow. unlike P or T players, you can spawn several drones at once rather than 1 by 1 per base.
@@corwintodd5131it's also easier to "de-economize" as zerg, because you can just transform them into spore crawlers.
plz stop covering the final battle with statistics window
What did Classic do to Dark? He went mass carrier.
There is no point watching untill they balance the game.
My mom enter into the room; Winter "be aware of dark holes"