Thank you. This was a very informative video. I am just about to install my first pellet stove and you have helped me a lot. I already knew what to do, but watching this made me more confident I was on the right path. Thanks again.
Thank you for your video. Just following the instruction book left me frustrated because nothing was happening. The book told me just a few pellets and when I saw you put the whole 40lbs into the hopper, that is what I did and Praise the Lord it worked just like you said. Why can't these pellet stove companies explain it like you did. Thank you again.
I just bought this stove from tractor supply. I am a southern boy born and raised in NC but now live in New England. I truly appreciate this detailed video so I was able to install it before it gets really cold here in the 603. Thank you for this video! I truly appreciate you taking the time to show us. Take care
We just purchased the exact same stove prior to seeing your video. With each video installation like yours that I watch, I am building the confidence necessary to install our own. Thank you for taking your time to help others.
@@livefreeandtoolonDo you know what the adapter you used to connect to the pellet stove? Just bought all my 3" L & PL piping, but don't have an adapter, so none of them will go on. Lol
I have a bear pellet stove mine works fine I have it in the basement I take my outside air from inside the basement and it works for me but you did a very good job installing yours and I hope you have a good luck with it enjoyed watching God bless
Keep in mind that I've only used it for a couple weeks, that being said, so far so good ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxAU9pOCSV9Y5JprooHvfxTpOrt4hx8uRM . Using it at 8 ft. by 8ft. deer blind that is insulated. I have to keep the door cracked for it to get enough air to burn, but that is very likely the wood I've used. Much better quality than I expected for the price. Now if I can just take it easy in the beginning it won't be 90 degrees in my blind. All in all it seems like a keeper.
Awesome detailed explanation on the install! I'm in the market for a Pellet Stove and wanted to know if you have to vent the exhaust upward or can I go straight out through the back? Thanks!
This fire pit is one of a few covered pits that is on the list ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxAU9pOCSV9Y5JprooHvfxTpOrt4hx8uRM of approved products for Disney Fort Wilderness. The product served its purpose well and provided excellent fires throughout the evening. We were able to open the door and do s'mores, but I had to be careful because the handle was a bit hot on occasions. Additionally, I wish they had replaced some of the standard nuts with lock nuts in some places. We lost the door handle after just a couple of days of usage. Not a deal breaker, just a recommendation. I still give it 5 stars.
Please explain how not using the air intake piped from the outside, will cause CO to build up in the house. The flue gases which contain the CO are vented outside. I have been on the understanding that the outside air intake was designed so that you are not using inside warm air (that you have just spent energy heating) and exhausting it to the outside.
Just purchased same stove at TSC. I will be installing it in a metal pole building. Pipes will just be passing through the single layer thin metal sides, no sheetrock or insulation. Nor will smoke exhaust pipe be particularly close to the wall girts. I suppose I won’t need the double sliding thimble for the exhaust smoke pipe and would just use the 2nd pass through that you use on your exterior porch wall?
Sounds like you will not have combustibles with in close proximity. just to be sure you may want to check with your town mech inspector to make sure you're in the clear.
I was thinking about constructing a concrete form with plywood or felt on bottom and pouring 1- 2" of concrete and then tiling on top of it. This would be cheap as well as easily demolished if needed.
What is the height from the stove to the outside that’s needed I want to vent on an outside deck. Can i put the wall thimble straight off the clean out tee then vent or do I need to come up 5 -10 feet before I can vent ?
I have the same stove and picked up a few bags of the same pellets. Didn't install it yet. Just wondering is it noisy? Not sure if I want to install it in my living room (where it will be a few feet from the sofa) or my dining room. I also have brick exterior so that will be a challenge.
The venting installation is helpful, but wondering if where you placed your Pelpro isn't to code. My understanding is you need 12 inches horizontal from any door/window that opens. Not only that, but curious how much heat you're a losing through the sliding glass door. Also, the fresh air intake needs to be to the outside where fresh, unrestricted air can enter.
you'll need to read the pellet stove installation instructions and check with your town or city once you read the manufacter instructions and know requirements.
I am going to suggest that you purchase the 3-in pellet stove piping I have an existing 6-in from my wonderlux e wood stove and it was going to cost almost as much just to get the conversions I suggest spending $230 on a new kit for pellet stove Hope that helps
why can't you take the flew pipe straight out the wall behind the pellet stove so it is hidden from sight Wait you putting it out onto an enclosed porch and then out . .
@@livefreeandtoolon mine was on an outside waLL IN nj AND THEY HAVE THE STRICTEST CODES FOR WOOD STOVES AND PELLET STOVES . went straight out the wall with a hot cap outside just like this old house did in the show I watched
Just installed a comfort zone made in SC great stove we did not use a cold air intake they’re not really necessary more importantly is the use of hi temp silicone on all the locking joints so you have no leaking especially if you have the rise in pipe inside the home mines outside
It's been great! and the aroma of the wood pellets really is enjoyable as well. I did brake the lever lock on the fire door but was able to repair in a matter of an hour. Watch latest video on that. otherwise it heats well.
Got to remember, some insurance companies in certain states won’t insure your house and might even cancel your existing insurance if you installed a stove yourself. If it’s a wood stove installation the insurance company might want a master solid fuel technician to come and look at your installation and sign off on it. $$$$
@@livefreeandtoolon a lot of people don’t think about permits, because it’s not like putting an addition on your house, or digging a hole to put a septic tank in. If you think about it you’re not changing the structure of the house whatsoever and a pellet stove is an easy install and removal. A lot of people think it’s like an appliance, a microwave with a vent, a refrigerator, or a dishwasher. If you already have a wood stove or pellet stove in your home and want to replace it yourself with a newer model and add a liner or piping, absolutely tell nobody about the install. The insurance company already knows there’s a wood/pellet stove in the house, and there’s no reason to open up a can of worms that could cost you thousands more after all said and done. Insurance companies are starting to crack down on wood/pellet stove installations, telling you no or charging you more money every year just because you have one. Insurance companies “want” everyone to go electric/solar/battery, just like the automotive and tool industries.
This is a very valid discussion. If no permit and associated inspection, then a house fire may not qualify for insurance claims depending on administrative permits? Does anyone know the answer?
@ that’s the way to do it! There are some risks involved with doing that. If for any reason the pellet stove is a cause of a house fire, and the fire department will figure that out, the insurance company won’t pay. The simple solution is to remove the pipe from the appliance hide it away from the appliance( basement) and fit a cover to the remaining exhaust pipe. Tell the insurance company that you removed the pipe because you don’t think it’s safe and blocked the existing pipe with the appropriate cover/cap, this way the appliance remains. Most of the time the insurance company just wants the appliance pipe disconnected so it can’t be used, it’s only used for knickknacks now. 👍🏻
Nicely done with good explanations. However, can you explain how you're going to access the clean out tee? Also, the stove may have the proper clearance at the corner from the wall, but your power cord may toast.
@@jeremyallen3448 no, you can have it the house. It allows you to run the pipe up the wall so you can claim more heat before run it outside. It also helps maintain draft and reduce creosote buildup that could occur with a cold pipe in colder climates.
@@michaeldvorak5556 just going by the manufacturer recommended set up. Is the clean out air tight? Looks like you could get some carbon monoxide leaking from around that if its not. Wouldnt hurt to test it. Stay safe God bless
@@jeremyallen3448 the pipe and maybe the stove manufacturers recommend using hi-temp silicone sealant at the joints. Three screws may be required. Your point about CO is spot on. These stoves with forced exhaust have to push the exhaust someplace, and narrow or long pipes create more back pressure. This is one good reason to run straight through wall with tee on the outside. You don't have this problem with stoves that use draft only. Once hot enough and draft is functional, air in drawn into the pipe at leaks. Another thought, see requirements, but have at least 3 feet of rise in pipe. If you loose power, the draft will get the smoke to go outside. A short pipe straight out will not have draft and your house would fill up with smoke. Thought I better mention that I'm not an expert or professional. I'm going through the process of install one and have sore, tired eyes from reading and UA-cam. LOL
Not so with a pellet stove. Wood burners yes, but the sides and rear of a pellet stove don’t get hot. Pretty much the entire rear section of a pelt stove is the hopper for the pellets, so if the sides and rear got hot, it would ignite the entirety of the stored pellets.
3 90 degree turns. And less then 10 foot of rise. Burning hard wood, you may need to clean the Chimney 2x a year. . I'd gess the installation chart would likely say to use 4" pipe in that setup. Not saying it won't work, just more cleaning. 0.01c
got the same one, doesnt do anything except blink a green light forever, no noise, no fans, no heat nothing, I did the off to high to off to high again and nothing, very disappointed with pelpro right off the bat.
i live in socal, last year 2022 gas bill was $120 to 240$.. no biggy, this year for 4 months 1600$ in 4 months house is at 64, fuck the gas company, its been cold i know, but their raising their rates next year,, so im going to the tractor supply to get me one for my house so good bye gas company, hello 68 degrees for less,,, im not sure why no one makes one for 600 sq ft for me up stairs other side of the house
Thank you. This was a very informative video. I am just about to install my first pellet stove and you have helped me a lot. I already knew what to do, but watching this made me more confident I was on the right path. Thanks again.
Thank you for your video. Just following the instruction book left me frustrated because nothing was happening. The book told me just a few pellets and when I saw you put the whole 40lbs into the hopper, that is what I did and Praise the Lord it worked just like you said. Why can't these pellet stove companies explain it like you did. Thank you again.
I just bought this stove from tractor supply. I am a southern boy born and raised in NC but now live in New England. I truly appreciate this detailed video so I was able to install it before it gets really cold here in the 603. Thank you for this video! I truly appreciate you taking the time to show us. Take care
Hell ya 603!
How's it working out so far? I'm just a little south of the 603 in MA and am looking at this one, or even a little smaller one..
We just purchased the exact same stove prior to seeing your video. With each video installation like yours that I watch, I am building the confidence necessary to install our own. Thank you for taking your time to help others.
If I can help answer any question I will do my best.
@@livefreeandtoolonDo you know what the adapter you used to connect to the pellet stove? Just bought all my 3" L & PL piping, but don't have an adapter, so none of them will go on. Lol
@sinfernoo it should come in the kit, if not look up the venting manufacture and reference what they suggest
Very helpful! I just bought the same unit.. thank you very much for taking the time out for making this video!!!!
Kick ass video , great on the details . Thank you for your time
This is by far the best install video on youtube thanks for the details really helpful for DIYers
I have a bear pellet stove mine works fine I have it in the basement I take my outside air from inside the basement and it works for me but you did a very good job installing yours and I hope you have a good luck with it enjoyed watching God bless
What a great video. It has helped tremendously, thanks
Excellent Job. Thank you I think I can do it
Nicely done. I just bought the same model at Tractor Supply so this will definitely help with the installation.
Keep in mind that I've only used it for a couple weeks, that being said, so far so good ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxAU9pOCSV9Y5JprooHvfxTpOrt4hx8uRM . Using it at 8 ft. by 8ft. deer blind that is insulated. I have to keep the door cracked for it to get enough air to burn, but that is very likely the wood I've used. Much better quality than I expected for the price. Now if I can just take it easy in the beginning it won't be 90 degrees in my blind. All in all it seems like a keeper.
Awesome detailed explanation on the install! I'm in the market for a Pellet Stove and wanted to know if you have to vent the exhaust upward or can I go straight out through the back? Thanks!
Nice job getting ready to put one in myself hopefully lol
This fire pit is one of a few covered pits that is on the list ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxAU9pOCSV9Y5JprooHvfxTpOrt4hx8uRM of approved products for Disney Fort Wilderness. The product served its purpose well and provided excellent fires throughout the evening. We were able to open the door and do s'mores, but I had to be careful because the handle was a bit hot on occasions. Additionally, I wish they had replaced some of the standard nuts with lock nuts in some places. We lost the door handle after just a couple of days of usage. Not a deal breaker, just a recommendation. I still give it 5 stars.
What’s the minimum clearance from combustibles to the back and sides of your pellet stove to the walls?
Great install and info, thanks.
is your wall thimble in backwards?
How many hrs will a bag of pellets last.
What was your manufacturers clearance on electrical outlets? I cannot find my clearance in the owners manual.
Please explain how not using the air intake piped from the outside, will cause CO to build up in the house.
The flue gases which contain the CO are vented outside. I have been on the understanding that the outside air intake was designed so that you are not using inside warm air (that you have just spent energy heating) and exhausting it to the outside.
Is that the dura vent stove pipe kit?Having a hard time finding that adapter piece...
Just purchased same stove at TSC. I will be installing it in a metal pole building. Pipes will just be passing through the single layer thin metal sides, no sheetrock or insulation. Nor will smoke exhaust pipe be particularly close to the wall girts. I suppose I won’t need the double sliding thimble for the exhaust smoke pipe and would just use the 2nd pass through that you use on your exterior porch wall?
Sounds like you will not have combustibles with in close proximity. just to be sure you may want to check with your town mech inspector to make sure you're in the clear.
Good job. I'm curious, do you have any dust In this room?
No. We clean often but no ash
I set my stove up outside and left it burn for a couple hours before I used it inside to get rid of those gases from the oils and paint fumes.
What size pipe did you use ?? Did tou go from 3in to 4in of the back of stove ??
Can you provide the materials list and cost? Also where it is available
So I just installed mine today. Same exact unit. Started it up and it smokes bad. Is this normal on start up? The whole house filled with smoke
Yes it is normal
If you read the manual it says start it up outside and run it on high to burn off the oils
Thank you! Superb video.
We purchased the same stove. Didn't realize it needed a base and that hearth pads are so expensive. Did you make a video on how you made yours?
I made the one in the video, it was a Fire proof pad with ceramic decorative tiles.
I was thinking about constructing a concrete form with plywood or felt on bottom and pouring 1- 2" of concrete and then tiling on top of it. This would be cheap as well as easily demolished if needed.
What is the height from the stove to the outside that’s needed I want to vent on an outside deck. Can i put the wall thimble straight off the clean out tee then vent or do I need to come up 5 -10 feet before I can vent ?
You need to reference the manufactures installation instructions for your stove
Hey bud!
Just bought the exact stove and was wondering what brand of exhaust pipe you used???
Thanks in advance!!
Hi Dave, I bought the pellet vent kit from tractor supply. The name is pelletvent
hi temp silicone is required at first 3” stove adapter joint.
Yes, and it’s a pain in the a$$ when it needs to come off.
THANK YOU , GREAT JOB AND INFO.
Excellent explanation👍
do you have ash to clean out
Yes and an ash vac is needed
well done and helpful.
Are pellet stoves really superior to wood stoves?
Great and informative video! Thank you!
why didn't you put the pipe thru the wall and have the dump side outside? now you have to move the stove to clean out the venting tube.
There's a porch outside it can't dump there and you cannot run venting along the floor
That makes sence
whats the model model as you say it so fast I didn't catch it. sounded like ap 130?
Pel Pro 130
I have the same stove and picked up a few bags of the same pellets. Didn't install it yet. Just wondering is it noisy? Not sure if I want to install it in my living room (where it will be a few feet from the sofa) or my dining room. I also have brick exterior so that will be a challenge.
Its not noisey, but you can hear the fan. however you can still talk to someone while standing beside it running with out issue.
I hear you want to use soft wood pellets, burns more efficient.
Really? Most have indicated hardwood pellets burn with least amount of ash. Hmmm ... ?
fkn fantastic video. Thank you!
The venting installation is helpful, but wondering if where you placed your Pelpro isn't to code. My understanding is you need 12 inches horizontal from any door/window that opens. Not only that, but curious how much heat you're a losing through the sliding glass door. Also, the fresh air intake needs to be to the outside where fresh, unrestricted air can enter.
All to code
Very good video sir. Thank you. I wish you lived in Md. so you can come do mine.
Who would you not show how you put the adapter on it’s not working with my master forge
Tempted to get a stove as a extra source of heat I use oil now
I'm replacing my woodstove with a pellet stove....can I use the current exhaust piping?
you'll need to read the pellet stove installation instructions and check with your town or city once you read the manufacter instructions and know requirements.
I am going to suggest that you purchase the 3-in pellet stove piping I have an existing 6-in from my wonderlux e wood stove and it was going to cost almost as much just to get the conversions I suggest spending $230 on a new kit for pellet stove Hope that helps
@@diannagorrell4123 Thanks, Dianna...it did come with the air intake but not the exhaust piping. Have a great day.
Me too.
I just purchased the Pel Pro 130 to replace a woodstove.
why can't you take the flew pipe straight out the wall behind the pellet stove so it is hidden from sight Wait you putting it out onto an enclosed porch and then out . .
The distance is too long and it is not a straight shot. That method doesnt comply with code nor the manufacturer instructions in my case.
@@livefreeandtoolon mine was on an outside waLL IN nj AND THEY HAVE THE STRICTEST CODES FOR WOOD STOVES AND PELLET STOVES . went straight out the wall with a hot cap outside just like this old house did in the show I watched
@@sissymurphy9620 this old house didn't go straight out. They put the tee on and up then outside.
Just installed a comfort zone made in SC great stove we did not use a cold air intake they’re not really necessary more importantly is the use of hi temp silicone on all the locking joints so you have no leaking especially if you have the rise in pipe inside the home mines outside
Since the install....how are you liking it so far?
It's been great! and the aroma of the wood pellets really is enjoyable as well. I did brake the lever lock on the fire door but was able to repair in a matter of an hour. Watch latest video on that. otherwise it heats well.
@@livefreeandtoolon that's great to hear! Thanks for sharing!
Tnaks very helpfull
I'm trying to do a similar installation, what size firestop support did you use? 3" or 4"? Were there any fitting issues with the 1/2" rise?
I used the 3" vent kit sold at tractor supply it came with the thimble
no issue with the rise as i followed the manufacture instructions
Where is the fresh air intake hole
i ran my stove outside for a couple hours with a few cups of pellets then moved inside. no need to stink up the house
Works but just crack a window and put a fan in another window with a pillow beside fan tight and thecstink will blow right out.
Another reason not to use B type pipe is the aluminum lining. It would corrode.
Got to remember, some insurance companies in certain states won’t insure your house and might even cancel your existing insurance if you installed a stove yourself.
If it’s a wood stove installation the insurance company might want a master solid fuel technician to come and look at your installation and sign off on it.
$$$$
That’s what permits and inspections are for
@@livefreeandtoolon a lot of people don’t think about permits, because it’s not like putting an addition on your house, or digging a hole to put a septic tank in. If you think about it you’re not changing the structure of the house whatsoever and a pellet stove is an easy install and removal. A lot of people think it’s like an appliance, a microwave with a vent, a refrigerator, or a dishwasher.
If you already have a wood stove or pellet stove in your home and want to replace it yourself with a newer model and add a liner or piping, absolutely tell nobody about the install. The insurance company already knows there’s a wood/pellet stove in the house, and there’s no reason to open up a can of worms that could cost you thousands more after all said and done. Insurance companies are starting to crack down on wood/pellet stove installations, telling you no or charging you more money every year just because you have one. Insurance companies “want” everyone to go electric/solar/battery, just like the automotive and tool industries.
This is a very valid discussion. If no permit and associated inspection, then a house fire may not qualify for insurance claims depending on administrative permits? Does anyone know the answer?
@@akaredcrossbowwe took the pellet out - then when the house closed- we put it back in.
@ that’s the way to do it!
There are some risks involved with doing that. If for any reason the pellet stove is a cause of a house fire, and the fire department will figure that out, the insurance company won’t pay.
The simple solution is to remove the pipe from the appliance hide it away from the appliance( basement) and fit a cover to the remaining exhaust pipe. Tell the insurance company that you removed the pipe because you don’t think it’s safe and blocked the existing pipe with the appropriate cover/cap, this way the appliance remains. Most of the time the insurance company just wants the appliance pipe disconnected so it can’t be used, it’s only used for knickknacks now. 👍🏻
Nicely done with good explanations. However, can you explain how you're going to access the clean out tee? Also, the stove may have the proper clearance at the corner from the wall, but your power cord may toast.
Im pretty sure hes done this wrong. Clean out T should be on the outside of the house
@@jeremyallen3448 no, you can have it the house. It allows you to run the pipe up the wall so you can claim more heat before run it outside. It also helps maintain draft and reduce creosote buildup that could occur with a cold pipe in colder climates.
@@michaeldvorak5556 just going by the manufacturer recommended set up. Is the clean out air tight? Looks like you could get some carbon monoxide leaking from around that if its not. Wouldnt hurt to test it. Stay safe God bless
@@jeremyallen3448 the pipe and maybe the stove manufacturers recommend using hi-temp silicone sealant at the joints. Three screws may be required. Your point about CO is spot on. These stoves with forced exhaust have to push the exhaust someplace, and narrow or long pipes create more back pressure. This is one good reason to run straight through wall with tee on the outside. You don't have this problem with stoves that use draft only. Once hot enough and draft is functional, air in drawn into the pipe at leaks. Another thought, see requirements, but have at least 3 feet of rise in pipe. If you loose power, the draft will get the smoke to go outside. A short pipe straight out will not have draft and your house would fill up with smoke. Thought I better mention that I'm not an expert or professional. I'm going through the process of install one and have sore, tired eyes from reading and UA-cam. LOL
@@michaeldvorak5556 just finished installing mine today went by the "ask this old house " video
Takes 2 prople to comfortably move yje stove..
Why did u go up so high? Could you have went straight out?
I think the walls goto another room or directly into his enclosed porch.
I did straight pipe
No rock around the walls? The sides get extremely hot! Wow!
Not so with a pellet stove. Wood burners yes, but the sides and rear of a pellet stove don’t get hot.
Pretty much the entire rear section of a pelt stove is the hopper for the pellets, so if the sides and rear got hot, it would ignite the entirety of the stored pellets.
It is okay as long as your house is made of wood.
Did you caulk the exhaust adaptor? If not Why Not!
1793????!!
Holy shit!
Yup, it's old and not uncommon in New England!
1794
venting? what do you americans mean, if its burning and puts out smoke its called a chimney not a vent.
3 90 degree turns.
And less then 10 foot of rise.
Burning hard wood, you may need to clean the Chimney 2x a year.
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I'd gess the installation chart would likely say to use 4" pipe in that setup.
Not saying it won't work, just more cleaning.
0.01c
Ya contractor wants $2700 to install.
You could do it yourself.
Depending on what stove and install, you can spend $5,000 and up.
got the same one, doesnt do anything except blink a green light forever, no noise, no fans, no heat nothing, I did the off to high to off to high again and nothing, very disappointed with pelpro right off the bat.
Did you call pelpro?
Every company I call to do this installation, they want to charge me 3k for pellet stove and about 3k for installation. It's radicals.
Sounds about right!
1200 for pellet stove and 150 for install but I keep getting 4 red flashing light
@@biggreen1495 sounds about right!
@@biggreen1495 what model stove is it?
@@akaredcrossbow p70 tryna make it work as we speak
i live in socal, last year 2022 gas bill was $120 to 240$.. no biggy, this year for 4 months 1600$ in 4 months house is at 64, fuck the gas company, its been cold i know, but their raising their rates next year,, so im going to the tractor supply to get me one for my house so good bye gas company, hello 68 degrees for less,,, im not sure why no one makes one for 600 sq ft for me up stairs other side of the house
It’s only gonna get worse for you in California. The answer is to leave!