How to Install a Pellet Stove | This Old House
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2014
- Adding a supplementary, efficient heat source with This Old House plumbing and heating expert Richard Trethewey and stove installer Rob Dardano. (See below for a shopping list and tools.)
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Richard and an expert helped a homeowner who wanted a new pellet-burning stove as a source of supplemental heat in her living room. The stove itself has a “hopper,” where wood pellet fuel is loaded. An electric auger then automatically feeds the pellets into the belly of the stove, where they're burned for heat. The stove is controlled by a thermostat, and the pellets are made from recycled wood products. The stove was installed in a corner of the living room; a heat-resistant pad was placed on the wood floor to protect it. To install the exhaust pipe for the stove, the installer cut a hole in the wall, being careful not to cut through a stud. He then mounted plates on both the inside and outside of the wall to protect the wall from the heat of the exhaust pipe. Next, a separate smaller pipe was installed to bring fresh air into the stove for combustion. With both pipes installed through the wall, the final connections were made to the stove and the installation was complete.
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The installation was performed by Rob Dardano, who has over 30 years of experience installing hearth products throughout New England.
The "Empress" pellet stove is manufactured by Enviro Fireplace Products [enviro.com/].
Additional assistance was provided by Black Magic Chimney [blackmagicchimney.com/] and Russo Products [www.russoproducts.com/].
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Nicely done! But would have liked to see another 30 seconds or so of the finished project, i. e., the fan switch, the auger switch, a thermometer held out-front at various distances for readings, another reading by the curtains and behind the unit as well, maybe touching (?) the top of the unit, etc. It’s all about safety obviously. Thanks.
Cleatus I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
@ 2:36 lol the moment he's been waiting for
THEONE I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
this is probably the best video i have watched for installation of a pellet stove. the gentleman doing the installation really knew his stuff and was so clear in describing clearly what each step was...totally get it now...thanks
Only get a floor pad large enough for your stove to sit on... the one in the video was to small lacking proper protection for the floor. Use a insulated pipe from the stove to the wall. They come in a variety of finishes to match your decor. Other than all their mistakes they did a great job.
I will guarantee you that if you download the installation instruction for that stove the whole job was piped incorrectly
@@eduardomoraga9398 I just looked at the piping instructions. Everything was done completely correct. Go troll somewhere else bud.
@@eduardomoraga9398 ..........show us your papers senor
I don't understand how anyone can say this is the wrong way to do this. Explain why it's the wrong way?
All you folks on TOH are superb!
My pellet atove is a heatilator ps35 . It has been amazing for past 7 years. Easy to clean and fix . It has saved me so much money not having to fill my oil tank ebery month and half
Is a exterior fresh air intake necessary or can i just let it suck the air from with in my house ?
In europe we have had these pellet stoves for years, but they are much different then the one you have, they are much taller, and have a modern design, mine is 15 years old and still going strong
Ours are American made from China they only last a few months before they break
Yep, that thing looks VERY old fashioned and is fugly!
@@nostradumbass4984 Some people like that look. I hate the modern looks on appliances
@@CupidFromKentucky I agree. I am tired of everything looking like it comes from Ikea. I thought that this particular stove was nice-looking.
@@TheOriginalAndysGarage You buy junk you get junk
Great video! Thank you so much.
I don't know why more installers do not recommend a vertical stack. Instead of just poking the exhaust straight out and then adding the end cap (looks like WALL-E sticking his head out of the side of the house) you should do a 90 bend upwards and run a vertical stack of about 4 feet and then have a rounded end cap facing downward. The vertical run looks better, but it also serves a very important purpose. It creates a natural draw. If you do not have your pellet stove hooked up to a power back up and you lose electricity, you will often get a horrid acrid smell backing into your home. The vertical stack will prevent this as it will naturally draw smoke out of the stove without the need for electric blowers which is how the smoke is cleared through the vent pipe when under normal operation. It's a few dollars more, but well worth it - and more aesthetically pleasing.
Great post couldn’t agree more
@John Cox which one you recommend looking to install next before next winter in lower level of house. Livable 500sqft to heat up but also enough to warm the upstairs 1400sqft? Or would it be more efficient to get a duckless unit.
That's all I could think about. Looks terrible.
@@Bear_83 U.S. Stove Co. makes nice units that I used to sell. I have 2 myself from them. I suggest the multi-fuel stove. You can burn much more than wood pellets.
you use UPS with a short delay relay to turn off the unit. exhaust still runs til cool
but... a vertical stack is the best way.
Great job
Fairly simple installation.
@4:11 Adding heat to a house with no exterior insulation--trying to overcome a demand problem with supply.
I agree. Adding more insulation would have been much better. If that doesn't work, then go with the stove.
Adding insulation is your best bet, but costs more and opening up walls is not something everyone wants to do.
uh it could have had insulation, they probably removed it for the video. kind of boring watching someone remove insulation.
28 years an I’m clearly the winner! Sleepy Pres. In DC.
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Maureen I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
Thank you. Very helpful
mevlida I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
nice job
Have fun washing your blackened siding as an added pellet stove maintenance.
yep
Gregory I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
I painted the siding dark gray...
@@flat-earther what is it? Square? 🤣
@@Joseph-eh4rs I suggest don't believe what I think it is. I opened a door of information to you, you may choose to look at it and make up your own mind.
Those work amazingly to heat your whole house. Knew several people in the country with them. Everyone used corn though, super cheap. Be careful though, the one at my house put out so much heat it exploded an ashtray that was nearby
Most stoves have a manual or auto reset at about 250 degrees off the drop shoot of the pellet hopper. If your ashtray exploded due to the stove your high limit switch would have tripped shutting down the stove. Unless some smart do it yourselfer bypassed that... Something else caused that to explode... Maybe the cat bumped it.
An ashtray exploded?
what do you mean corn? you can use corn instead of pellets? I live down a long driveway in the country and have propane and I need to figure out what I'm going to do
Love my pellet stove but it is kind of noisy if you have it in a room where you watch tv.
You should have removed the siding and flashed behind the siding and over the out side flange. Never rely on calk when it’s that easy to make a mechanical seal. That’s a homeowner job!!
The concept of a pellet stove is appealing due to lots of dust and cleanup with a wood stove over the 30 years of having one but I don't need electric to run my wood stove and I can throw any material I can find (wood based) to burn. And with a straight up pipe there is very little maintenance required.
If you read the coustomer reviews, you will note that this thing can go wrong, mostly electrical related (feeder, igniter, control etc.). With a wood stove, other than the creote cleanup annually, it will last for generations...
Pros and cons.. I prefer wood stove but the pellet stove is also better for the environment
You know what's good for the environment. Don't burn anything and wear a huge coat during the winter.
@@DTSupstateNY Why would a pellet stove be ”better for the environment”?
J R JR I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
Love the criticism in the comment section!!
internet experts! They're all over UA-cam.
The first 1 i got was in 2007, I paid $100 for it off a guy I know who works for the town I live in. He was up at the town dump and since he works for the town he got it for free, he had to replace some parts inside before sold it to me. It last up to may 2015, it was a 1 bag to fill it.
Then in September of 2015 i brought a brand new one at tractor supply now this one holds 3 full bags at once, it cost $1500.
It's a lot bigger then the small ones and 3 bags last 3 days straight that's 24 hours a day.
Nice to have a 4 foot vertical exhaust in case of a power outage and the stove was running the smoke will draft out instead of flowing back in house.
those stoves don't run during a power outage.
Run great with a generator if you don't have power.
Seal your pipe with foil tape and that's a non issue.
@@RoastBeefSandwich A small inverter generator can easily power these
@@RoastBeefSandwich that’s exactly the point. The fire still burns what pellets are already in the firebox thus putting out smoke with no fan to blow it out side thus it backs up in your house, instead of a natural draft to pull it out.
Ok. 👍 I think we can do this now!
Good working, I from iraq
bahaa I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
Good video. I wanted to see how that thimble is done when the exterior is brick or stone.
it's done the same way once you remove (and prep?) the masonry because there's usually a wood frame wall behind that. If the wall is too think there are likely extensions sold.
Daryl I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
The stove shown is a Thelin " Echo ". They are no longer being produced but parts are still readily available. We have one or two refurbished stoves randomly on hand for those who wish to own one.
Camping chair is their furniture in the living room? Cant imagine why its so cold in the room when there was zero insulation in that wall.
Yeah I like how they placed that camping chair there to make it look like they didn't already have that spot picked out and pre-planned 😂
I Like! Merci.
Great video. I notice the clean out is directly behind the stove. Other installers go directly outside first than place the clean out T. The T caps will start to leak as the seal rope in the T will wear out, causing the clean out cap to leak a lot of smoke and Co to enter into the house. Pellet stoves work great for heating. But, you must clean the units often.
Nice and clean job i love it😃
See now your disgruntled neighbor will come over at night and attach a duct from the exhaust to the intake. 😁
That stove is made by Enviro. I've had the same stove for 7 or 8 years and it works quite well although I had to replace the bearings on the exhaust blower a couple of times. I didn't bother to connect the fresh air intake because it doesn't seem to go anywhere. The connector is attached to the sheet metal housing and from there it goes nowhere, so unless something has changed since I purchased my stove, I wouldn't waste my time with it!
Also I want to say, Heaven help you if the power goes out because the exhaust blower will stop and your house will fill with smoke! I have a standby generator that has saved me a couple of times. I got appreciable smoke during the time it takes for the standby power to come on, so I can just imagine what it would be like if the power was out for an hour.
spudpail I had an England Stove Works pellet stove and the only thing I had to constantly replace was the exhaust blower because the bearings seized up. After replacing the first blower, I dismantled the motor and replaced the bearings. When the second one went bad I just put the rebuilt one in and fixed the second. The part was designed to be a throw away, but with a little work and about $2 or $3 for a pair of bearings I saved myself about $120.
Reuben Hubert I'm glad to hear you did that! Most people nowadays can't seem to effectively perform their own repairs, so they have to pay through the teeth to have someone else replace a part that could be repaired instead. That's what I did with my exhaust blower twice now. My blower has ball bearing and sometimes they can get very noisy. I was able to get new bearings for literally pennies at American Surplus and Supply. They were actually for a Hoover vacuum cleaner and they work better than the originals. I also saw them REALLY cheap on Ebay! About a year ago replaced the bearings in a "throw away" $800.00 bearing assembly for a boiler circulating pump at my church. Total cost was about $20 and there are no problems!
+Reuben Hubert Can you post the bearing size? I just bought and England stove a few weeks ago and I want to create a parts stash for emergencies.
+fywacia I'm sure not all stoves use the same bearings for their exhaust blowers. In other words mine may not be the same as yours, but anyway here are the specs for my stove's exhaust bearings.
Metric Series Bearings - 608 Specifications
Part Specifications
Product Type Metric Series Bearings
Shield Option open
Flange Option unflanged
Bore Diameter [d] 8.0 (mm)
Outside Diameter [D] 22.0 (mm)
Width [B] 7.0 (mm)
Fillet Radius [r min] 0.30 (mm)
Ball Complement [Z] 7
Ball Size [DW] 3.969 (mm)
Inner Reference Diameter [Li] 10.800 (mm)
Outer Reference Diameter [Lo] 19.10 (mm)
Static Load Rating [Cor] 1368 (N)
Dynamic Load Rating [Cr] 3297 (N)
Material Chrome Steel
My bearings just gave up the ghost today and now I am in the process of replacing them for the third time. I guess this is a job that I'm going to have to do every three or four years.
I’m surprised it does not have a pressure switch to sense when blower is off and dampen the flame
Could not be bothered to put that decorated camp chair away before the camera crew showed up.
I would like something like this as a backup heat source, but it needs power which is self-defeating for my purposes.
Very informative. Thank you for that.
I didn’t see any insulation in those outside walls. Good luck keeping the heat in the house.
Exactly my thought~!
The money would have better spent insulating those walls!
The pellets are a processed waste product from industrial saw mills as a byproduct of producing lumber.
I know of one pellet company in Texas that exports 100% of their output to Europe.
No head flashing on the outside? Just silicon?
I installed a pellet stove about 10 years ago in my basement , the largest I could find , very disappointed in the lack of btu’s heat coming off at full or high , haven’t used it in years. Wish it was more efficient
I can understand that . If you don’t turn it on and fire it up it won’t heat anymore.
Interesting. I have a pellet fireplace insert. While meant as a " boutique" addition, this thing can heat my first AND second floor of home as the heat rises. Just ordered a standalone stove for the basement as oil prices look like they are going to be crazy this year.
Mark I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
@@kjhnsn7296 Oil prices are coming down, Pellet prices are going up and getting hard to find.
@@fraudsarentfriends4717 Yes, Chinese covid lockdown drove down oil prices somewhat. Still higher than last year though by nearly 15 - 20%. I bought my pellets early and at good prices. Right now compared to last year, my heating costs are considerably less by burning pellets vs oil AND I keep the house at a higher temp with pellets. Here in the Northeast we easily have another 2 - 3 months of heating season left so will be interesting to see final costs.
A nice stove and convenient but a good quality wood stove with dry wood will provide much more heat than a pellet stove. I used to have a Lopi Leyden at a previous house and that thing was a beast and easy to load from the top. The biggest challenge was finding a quality wood supplier that sold you dry wood, a lot of landscapers in their off-season would sell you wood that was split yesterday as “well seasoned wood.” If you can supply yourself with wood it’s a no brainer go the wood stove route.
Wrong, quality stove in way warmer and safer. Best to burn corn in it though. Have fun stacking wood
Agreed. And you don't have to plug it in. The need for electricity makes it impractical. I have a Lopi Republic. It's been awesome.
@@highstreetkillers4377 No need to stack wood. Corn sugar by product and corn fungi are dangerous. And you still have to store massive amounts of corn or pellet bags in dry places - usually taking up your storage space.
The way the exhaust vent was installed looks like the smoke will go right back into the house. Smoke pouring out that pipe could easily travel one foot to get right back into the house.
While I agree it's a possibility (I think they should have installed it closer to the kitchen) pellet stoves are very efficient leaving little smoke exhaust. Still definitely emitting carbon mono and dioxide though. And as per a previous comment - it looks like there's no insulation on the exterior wall. This is trying to fix a demand problem with supply.
do you know where the warm air wants to allways travel?
@@Kauppamopo Do you know it is not always warm upon exiting the vent. A fan pulling air into the house pulls cold and warm air. Have you ever heard of low level inversions??????
There is nothing wrong with this particular install.. .First of all, a clean burning pellet stove is not like a wood-stove there should be no visible "smoke"... Whatever heat is exiting the building during heating season will RISE. Going down 1 foot and entering the air intake isn't even an issue.
Also, there is no real "draw" to the air intake. There is no fan, as it's just an open hole through the back of the unit. The only air coming in that hole is what is pulled in due to negative pressure in the firebox which is created by air being consumed during COMBUSTION which means the fire is already consuming oxygen.
In addition, stoves like this (despite popular belief) are NOT airtight and also draw combustion air from the room by design. You can cover that hole and still, conceivably not extinguish the flame and you wouldn't even feel the suction on your hand.
That being said... Personally, I'd put the clean-out "T" and the unsightly pipe rise on the OUTSIDE of the home as it would keep the ash clean-out mess and the pellet vent out of the living area. This way, if the proximity of the intake bothered you , an extra 12" section of pipe could easily be snapped right on top of the existing outside stack. This would also help if the extra rise was needed for draft... You would be f**ked if you discovered this after drilling your wall. Yes, there is a blower for draft but these stoves (especially this model) rely heavily on proper draft. Especially during start-up and shutdown where the stove (and room) would get a small dose of smoke or a LARGE mess during a power failure.
There is no smoke with my stove other that when it lights up
I used to install pellet stoves and wood stoves for my dad’s business. Hated the insert styles because they were a pain in the ass at times.
Great video. Just wondering why the window is in a different location in relation to inside view ?
Oh, its a sun room . Woops
@4:21 is what you're looking for.
what are you talking about ?
Good observation.
Front porch or sunroom 👍🏼
And not a lick of insulation in those walls. Absolutely crazy.
Who knows
What kind of insulation do you put around the pipe bud
@@keithmahler4236 rocksol. Using proper double insulated pipe.
@@blaircox1589 I used double insulated pipe tractor supply kit but I can see a gap between the pipe and the thimble seeing daylight inside I don't want to put fire retardant caulk on it bc it will stink any recommendations
@@keithmahler4236 not sure you should mess with the double insulated pipe itself. By using that, you should be able to install rockwool insulation around the pipe. Then further away, standard pink insulation. Check your local building codes.
Regardless of the stove, prepare for soot. Soot will get on everything, including, breathing it. So, regardless of how much, get ready to live with it. Why? Because every time you open the front door to load or scoop out the ash pan, soot will follow.
When i build my house when im 20, in 7 years, im going to look into these pellet stoves
Cool James
When i built my new home i installed this same stove. Before that i had an air tight wood burner. The wood burner was better but im now in my 70s do i can put 20 pounds of pellets in a bucket and carry it into the house and pour it into the hopper. I thought ahead. Pretty good stove! Costs about $500.00 a year to heat my home. Thats 2 tons.
Buy a Harman they are the best pellet stove on the market
Kid is 13, will never own a home. Best thing is to buy corn, can get it straight from a farmer
"pellet vent pipe"... It's called b-vent dammit! Lol
No its isn't... B-Vent pipe is for use with natural and propane gas fired appliances, not solid fuel appliances like a pellet stove. Pellet stoves require Pellet Vent Pipe, its' a type of pipe specifically designed for pellet stoves. DuraTech, Ventis, etc... are manufacturers of said pipe. You're welcome.
@Antijoe B I'm staring at the book right now from one of the top chimney suppliers in these united states and you're disagreeing with them? Do the world a favor and don't go near any type of venting for any appliance that is meant to contain combustion and the byproducts of combustion.
@Antijoe B oh good, you never can tell in this industry... Lol stay safe brother
jdub I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
What model number is that outside air kit? I can't find it anywhere.
I just installed one and we notched the thimble instead of the siding makes for a better water tight seal
What is the insulation that you wrapped around the pellet stove pipe in between the two walls of the house? What are the best brands to buy? For high temperature situations like that?
That's way better than a wood stove wow
Even better to burn corn. Farmer delivers it and you build a corn room in the basement
@@highstreetkillers4377 Not sure a corn room in the basement is a plus lol. Unless you're a rodent
Video should have been called: “how to make a camp chair look like furniture by putting a pillow on it”
Rob I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.-
I got it in my about tab.
I installed a New Englander PDCH-25 pellet stove in my 2001 Karsten K20 Estate Series modular home with the 4” vent outside and the intake below to the vented crawl space.
My questions are: what are the factory settings of my stove? AND what are the RPM’s of both motors? Thank you
most of us local authority housing tenants would really apreciate one of these in winter but council would most probably never allow one of these
The fact we still dealing with heating oil in 2024 it blows my mind!!!
You guys wanna come do a new install video at my new log home in MA? I'd let you guys install my stove!
random stuff I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
Any suggestions for the best infrared stove out there for a basement where city city bye laws restrict fully functioning kitchen oven?
Huh? Your city restricts a working oven? I'm betting that is not true...
Hope you did your research and realized that you don't need to spend a lot on an infrared "stove"... Electricity is not fossil fuel and it's 100% efficient. That is why there is no exhaust... No BTUs are lost in emissions.
A cheap plastic "infrared" heater from a big-box store is just as efficient as an "AMISH" brand or some copper clad heat-sink heated by halogen light bulbs in a $400.00 wood box sold by a snake-oil salesman in a hotel convention room. Leaving a coiled portable hot-plate, or a 1970's electric space heater run has the EXACT same efficiency... 100%. Don't fall for the hype. Yesterday's hype was the ceramic cube heaters... Today, it's infra-red...
1200 watts is 1200 watts... 1850 is 1850... Lipstick on a pig. :-) Electric heat is efficient, but it's EXPENSIVE as a primary heat source ... You are going to see your meter spin if you use it for more than the occasional "zone heating" when you are using the living space.
It's been a year and I assume you figured this out one way or another, but maybe someone else will find the info useful.
No screws in double wall pipe. Manufacturer makes that very clear.
Dan C I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
i could use 1 for my house 2. ill be geting a wood stove 4 my shop next year.
Got this Multil fuel stove made in Holland nothing electric in same so if you have a power outage you can run still run same...being with an internal gravity hopper you can stack same up and it gives a twelve hour burn... or you can just shut it down come back later flick the air control and you are up an running......sometimes simpler is best it also has a bigger brother!....www.drufire.com/product_range/freestanding_wood_stoves/dru64mf.aspx
malachy1847 o ok cool. thanks 4 the link. :)
As long as your power don’t go out your good.
a friend plugs his into a computer UPS which gives him most of a day on the blower. Not perfect but helps between generator runs.
Jason ROgers I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
step 1: don't install a pellet stove
step 2: drink a beer
Step 3 run you and your families lives 🤦🏽♂️
Now let's jack this up a bit and install a Rocket Stove, Uh, Uh, Uh, Uh!
Really like this one guy's and girls! Real simple and easy. Even a guys named Tim can do it!
The fan sound on some stoves can be really loud
Thats why you get a Harman!
@@marylandsirensfirebuff9664 Right...for $3,000 hahahaha
What was type of insulation did he use, or can you use for thimble insulation?
Rick I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
I'm trying to find out what exhaust vent going out the roof looks like. The only place we could put our stove has our electrical box right where the exhaust would come out on the exterior of the house--puting it out of the roof would be the ticket. Is there a video of what that would entail?
Mary I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
I am thinking about installing an outside wood stove boiler. I have never seen y'all talk about one before do you have any thoughts on it?
ffbarnette I have had one for ten years. I live in the suburbs. You need chords of dry wood and you will be it’s slave for 3 months a year.
They are great if you enjoy standing outside in the freezing cold multiple times a day to load wood and fuss with them.
Lifehacks, there is no binder in the pellets. These are highly compressed wood scraps/sawdust only.
Anyone else think that woman looks like the checkout clerk from Home Alone?
hilarious! i first thought rosie o'donnell
D J I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
Didnt talk about clearances to combustibles, well done but you also have to take in manufacturing specifications for those things i mentioned before.
I have had mine for 2 winters in Tasmania Australia and am having nothing but trouble with it. The bottom of the little cast iron burner box burnt out so had to purchase a new one. The resin blackens my glass window within 20 minutes. Thick clumping stone-like substance builds and blocks the little burner box, tons of smoke comes out the exhaust pipe set in the external house wall causing people to stop with concern that the house is on fire 🔥. The smoke within the unit builds until all of a sudden there is a low sounding WHOOSH and smoke is forced out of the front grill into the room. The unit may then turn itself off. Because I’m 2 hrs away from the retailer and they are very busy with winter sales, they can do nothing to help until business slows down. They also gave no suggestions. So I’ve borrowed a electric panel heater. The was $3500 so I’m very disappointed. I clean the unit daily before turning it on so there is no build up of ash. I’m beaten.
Maybe there is moisture absorbed into the pellets. Also, only whole pellets should be burned (not broken off parts/shavings). If using a fresh air intake I would imagine the air is dry and not moist. Clean out pipes? If nothing else, maybe the stove itself isn't functioning properly.
@@cuppy3755 thank you for responding. I have discovered that pellets sold through Bunnings and Home Hardware are the only pellets that burn cleanly. I however do get my pellets through my supplier in Queenstown as they deliver and stack them for me. Fabulous service. The fire starts with just about no smoke at all. The quality of pellets makes all the difference with minuscule ash produced. Even the glass front door remains relatively clear with only a bit of film to be wiped off each morning. I’ve only had it turn itself off once and smoke came into the room via the air intake at the rear of the unit. I had to open doors and windows to clear it. Wasn’t game enough to turn it on again for 2 days. Then I had to turn it off at the wall to reboot the computer to get it to work. It was just too hot I think. Never a dull moment.
That is good you figured it out. It's been slowly getting colder and am preparing for winter myself.
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degen I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
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They say “Via” a lot in this😂
I know 3M Fire Block 10.1-oz Gray Caulk
will work on the pipes but can I use it to seal up the outside to around the plates can't figure out if it's waterproof
Use OSI Quad Max to seal around the thimble, you'll only have to do it once
I definitely wouldn't have put the air intake directly below the exhaust I would have in that case had the air inlet come from around the corner to prevent any recirculating any ash and exhaust fumes
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Why does the exhaust pipe point down on the outside instead of up like a normal chimney?
Less chance of water getting in.
Also. It’s a fan driven exhaust. The exhaust is pushed out the vent.
@@nh603
The stove uses a combustion blower fan so you don’t need to draft.
What connections are needed if the wiring is in the way?
Pam James a phone connection to an electrician 😂
hopefully there was an outlet nearby to run the fan
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The adapter that hooks to the pipe that goes on the stove is it suppose to lock on the stove it fits but don't seem to lock on the plastic fitting on stove? Thanks
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It is polite to ask politely to move out of the way when you were scoring. Pushing people out of the way is rude and very infuriating to viewers like me. You posted on the net and this is very degrading to This Old House and, ( Ask this old House), in my opinion. I have watched this program on tv since I was a boy and I am very disturbed by that. I like the work that was done. She is happy, and that is number one. The homeowner is happy. Priority # 1.
What in the hell are you talking about?
@@HollywoodCreeper Did you actually pay attention to the video?
Check the instructions manual most wall pass need the air space not filled with insulation
so now we need pellet stoves and pellets ?..I will stick to my log and lumber burning stove
Wood stoves put out much more heat too.
I had a wood stove ready to install, problem is that they need tending. I can leave my Harman pellet stove on for over 30 hours on a low setting. I guess if you have a very large home you can load up a large stove to last ... hmmm , how many hours ? In any case you'll be running to tend to it for sure after your 9-10 hour work + travel time day. I've loved wood stoves but get tired of tending them. I'm a slave to work already, don't want to be a slave to a wood stove in addition.
@@michaelbenjamin8 maybe..but I am not a slave to buy pellets for heat..we have natural wood sources..like pallet scrap logs etc
@@craneoperator4 You're still a slave to finding and gathering the wood plus the expenses of getting it. Then there is the back breaking labor and mess the wood makes not to mention the insects it might bring into or near your home. There are always tradeoffs.
@@almorris171 I am not a slave to the system...I get free wood and use my free time..and don't go out of my way to get it
Bummer you didn't run the intake/outtake through the same hole, one pipe inside the other, so you can heat the incoming air and cool the outgoing air - as well as minimize the cuts into the building. We've got that sort of setup for our high efficiency furnace, and it's great. The trick is having an end cap that draws fresh air from the house side while directing the exhaust straight away.
DuraVent recommends to do it that way. It also cleans up the install with one less hole to cut in the exterior sidewall...
Robert Lawton I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
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Would I still need a wall thimble if I'm routing the output through a concrete basement wall?
You don't want to catch your brick on fire, LOL
Yes. Concrete will actually est through the metal. Always use a thimble or sleeve
My exhaust pipe comes out from house and is straight down with cover on end and need to clean it out yearly as soot piles up - is this necessary ? Also the exhaust pipe is rusted exterior - I have two tons pellets stored and can’t burn as concerned about sparks coming out of exhaust hitting house and starting a fire - is this possible / I’m in NY and can’t find anyone to help me
was the vent tube a kit or bought in pieces ?
so the way I see it, the installer used a 45 degree ( corner placement) elbow, a T-connector with cap, one 12 inch pipe length , a 90 degree into the inside thimble, a 12 inch thru the wall pipe, the outside thimble and the cone cap. Sound right ?
Probably bought in pieces. The exhaust tubing was simpson b vent. It's not a cheap product. A job like this also can have multiple setups. If you are going to use b vent, you shouldn't be placing sheet metal screws into it. It's okay as long as you don't contract the inside tubing, but still not recommended, and the tubing has a built in locking method
IS it the same installation for a modular home?
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Very good video. Lots of information. I think that it would have been an all around better video though, if they all would have worn the same hats. Just saying.
Beware. Pellet stoves are noisy and you may be disappointed after your drag it home from Home Depot and Fire it up. 2 fans at work here and it’s about as loud of a pool pump. But it does heat the house nice and no more 3 am adding wood to the stove.
That's a good point. Noise pollution in your house is no joke....can drive you batty.
The cold air intake should be insulated to prevent frosting up in severe cold conditions.
No need.. Mine is only 2 ft long and pvc pipe
RObert Smith I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
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I find it interesting that that though using a wood product to burn it doesn't need a pipe that needs to clear the roof line, yet a wood burning stove pipe must well above the roof line. The logic escapes me & wonder how much of the requirements are just randomly applied.
These have a fan that pushes the smoke out and they burn way cleaner than a wood stove.
Wood pellets burn more like anthracite coal than cord wood... no creosote at all and just fly ash... my folks have been using one for 20 plus years and heat their home for under 4 dollars a day no matter how cold... most days one bag of pellets or less...
People Are so dumb. There is no fan that pushes the smoke out. Fan blows heated air inside. It doesn't need a normal chimney cause the smoke isn't bad. Burning wood creates dangerous killer smoke. I'm glad lots of places are banning wood stoves
Tell them to try corn, cheaper and hotter
@@highstreetkillers4377 like just good ol regular corn ? Sorry I'm new to this
Great video! Can anyone explain to me why the stove’s air intake can’t just draw air from inside the house instead of having to make a second hole in the wall? Is that to do with convection?
you don't have to do it it just burns the pellets better i didn't drill the hole for the fresh intake and it burns fine
if you have other appliances that draw inside air, you'd adding to the draw.
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It's not required unless you're installing in a mobile home. Better to have as it isolates the intake and exhaust from the inside air, you'll never get any backdraft and smell if your power goes out
Anytime you have a device that blows air out of the house, an equivalent volume of air needs to come back in the hose at the same time. Not hooking up the fresh air side is literally sucking in cold outside air into your home at the same rate this exhausts.
Buy drawing in outside air to burn, you eliminate that possibility. Fireplaces work the same way.
what length screw for cold air intake
How long does a bag last?
What is the make and model of the stove they installed in the video?
Looks like a St. Croix Hastings model- stcroixstoves.com/wood-pellet-stoves/traditional-pellet-stove-hastings
Looks like a Quadra Fire
Buy a Harman there the best
Five years later they'll be back out to fix the water damage caused by this "water-tight seal."
With a little preventative maintenance that won’t leak ever.
Ah yes, the cheeto dust covered, unemployed "expert" trolling TOH vids.
I’m trying to install my stove but it’s in a corner and the hole I need to cut out is on a angle, how do I connect my venting,
45 degree angle pipe
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That is so easy to install compared to a wood stove that needs to go all the way up
I think I saw that incorrectly, but did he wrap insulation right around the pellet vent? The whole reason for the thimble is to keep combustibles like the insulation the required 1-3inches away from the Vent. Maybe he was wrapping it outside the thimble?
high temp ceramic fiber insulation.
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What kind of insulation did you pack around the stove pipe? I dont see that in the list anywhere
Some people use Unitherm Ceramic Fiber Insulation but you have to buy it by the roll. :-(
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Get a corn stove and you can use a dryer vent.
Negative. Corn burns much hotter. I often burn corn in my multi-fuel stoves, as well as wood pellets. Corn is much hotter, but also messier.
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