I used a sledge hammer to break one up just so I could move and load it by myself. I unbolted everything on the outside and the outside layer of parts in the bell. I don't have an impact wrench to use on 7 important bolts in the bell so I used the sledge. The sledging was easy. I ended up with 30 pounds of aluminum, 110 of steel and 9 pounds of oil. Including cleanup it took more than 2 hours, so it wasn't worth it's value of about $22, but I just needed to get it gone. I captured most of the oil but I'll have to keep the aluminum for some time outside and hope that the exterior gunk weathers off to get a better price.
I'm sorry but you're reaction to the price differences made the entire video worth watching 😂 I wish you weren't like just under 3,000 miles away from where I live or I would love to do scrap videos with you, keep up the great work 👍
Great vid as always my man. Scrap yards price products based on recovery from a shredder (and then in turn from the current market value). When a yard looks at a piece of dirty Aluminium, they know that on average, 60% of the weight should be clean Aluminium. A shredders job is to process all of that, and spit out the product nice and clean at the end. This means that the price difference isn't going to be huge for the customer because the scrap yard will end up with the same product regardless. The yard will end up with the same amount of cast aluminium no matter what u do. The only cost to the yard running the shredder which is going to be in action regardless. (I own one, trust me on this....we want the shredder running as much as possible because sitting and doing nothing costs much more money) Side note: Most of your steel looks like #1, and should be $20-30 a ton more than shred. That being said, cleaning things like Dirty Extrusion if it's just some nails or screws, or cleaning bbq tops with just a few bangs from a hammer is TOTALLY worth it. And thats because the aluminium recovery is like 97%. We scrap yards love dirty extrusion more than most products because we can purchase it as lets say "15cents a pound" and sell it as a product called 3% (this is 97% aluminium) at a whopping 60cents a pound. Or clean it our selfs and get 70 cents. These are todays prices of course. Keep up the great content my man!!
I have GOT to start pushing for a better price haha! I guess I’ve been losing a little by selling my prepared steel as shred, that’s just me being lazy. But I am NEVER lazy with my good Alu, so I should talk to them about bumping me up! Now I understand why they never care how much burned grease is on my bbqs, haha 😆
Great video. Keep it up. My only suggestion, with deep respect, for the longevity of your tools, is most folks do not put a cheater pipe on a socket driver. The pawl and ratchet mechanism inside the driver is not designed for the leverage induced by said cheater pipe. Keep up the spirit. It's infectious.
I recently tried taking one apart and came to the same conclusion, only got about halfway and it took a few hours, prices would have to go up by at least 5x to make it worth it. Thanks for doing this, now I can just get rid of the stuff an not worry that I'm throwing away money.
@thubprint @zm5221 @lornekerzner5718 So, I'm a bit late on this one, but I have moved a great deal of Clean Auto Cast Aluminum or ISRI Code: TENCE. My best year so far I moved just over 31 million lbs it took about 678 40 foot HC containers to move this much material, I exported all of it and have been since 2011. Generally the guys that breaks down engines, transmissions and engine combos take about 30 min to brake down engines and transmissions. It takes a bit longer than an hour if it's am aluminum combo and under an hour if the engine has a cast iron block and heads. It takes a team of 10 to 12 guys to produce 46,000 LBS per week and if they have enough material that can produce about 1 1/2 loads per week. I have been getting 59 cents to 78 cents per lbs since I've been in the business. Your 3 hours is way off compared to what the guys that do it every day. Hopefully I get a a special use on a properly that I want to buy and run 6 furnaces that melt 3,000 lbs per hours. Now I'm not going to tell you how but I can reduce the cost per 46,000 lbs by close to $15,000 per load and increase that price per lb by at least 0.14 cents per lb with my process.
Scrap is so low here that transmissions just go as dirty aluminium. Same with lawnmower engines, etc. I like to micro scrap, but not worth the time and effort now. Hopefully prices will come back up. Great investigative video.
Thank you for doing this video. I've held off going to the scrap yard for 6months because of *thinking i needed to strip the gearbox in my pile first :D
I guess that would depend on your yard? Mine has prepared, cast, and shred. If the bell was steel it would be cast and if the inner parts were thick enough they would be prepared.
you need to dismantle a lot of gearboxes to get a decent scrap price aluminium isn't exactly a good source of income but hey anything's better than nothing
My yard would call it auto aluminum witch is worth a good amount more but yeah I would just bring it in as breakage- I'm not going to waste 3-4 hours on a difference of about $6.
Iron makes 35% of Earthś mass, you can get it for free from soil (concentration ranges from 0.2% to 55% depending on the land type), so if you got paid 3 cents for steel you should be thankful
Hey Thub hope youre settling in to your new place...notice youve mentioned poop scrap prices lately on light iron, here in UK its gone down from around 10 pence per kilo to 4 pence, here its cuz we sell mainly to China and with the lockdown over there, they aint buying, dont know if thats how it goes in your neck of the woods? Cheers much for this vid, saved me time on an old gear box i was gunna break down. What are your or anyone that may read this thoughts on breaking down an engine? its cast aliminium not iron. Keep up the good work bud, ive enjoyed hours and hours chilling watching you bottle pick (my mrs dont understand the apeal and to be honest, i dont understand it either lol) but i loves it. Cheers for sharing your journey mate :)
@@CoalCrackerCummins I mean he didn't act alone. I might add we're in Book Three of that era now. General Motors sure had their hand out when he broke his biggest promise immediately. "I will NOT give money to Big Banks and Wall Street." That sure turned into "Bailouts-R-Us" in record time after being sworn in. For the record I'm pretty sure GM got off The Naughty List of recipients quickly by repaying everything they got. I haven't performed recent research, but last I knew there were companies that considered that money "a forever gift" instead of "a loan without terms". It's likely every insurance company repaid to keep positive public images, unless a larger insurer bought their book of business and trashed the name along with all "unofficial debt". To them, I guess on behalf of all taxpayers, YOU'RE WELCOME.
You mean like the rear diff? Definitely, depending on the model. Vintage stuff is good money for sure and anything hard to find. Something like a Honda Civic or a dodge caravan will still sell but if your buyer can easily pull one themselves from a parts car then you can’t charge very much
the money is in the knowledge. if this guy knew any chemistry he could have extracted the nickel and chromium from the metals he scraps. The gears don't have much nickel/chromium, but stainless steel do. Without any knowledge he just sells a manual labor and manual labor doesn't have any big value because it doesn't contain any intelligence in it.
Steel is that low? That's INSANE! I know the pandemic made prices go up but damn that's unfathomable. I live in in the US and the lowest it's been for me it's $0.08/lb so probably like $0.12/lb in Canadian Dollard.
I think that would be a challenge with the rings in particular because those parts tend to get replaced, but a fellow messaged me after I posted this video to point out what a waste it was to scrap it when it would easily sell to a transmission shop for a few hundred bucks. Next time I find one I’m definitely going to try and sell it as-is before breaking it down!
"Weather Mercury is in Gatoraid" Besides the scrapping tips, this is why I come to this channel.
for Transmission best to take it to a Transmission shop see if they buy it for like 50.00 to 100.00 if not then take to the scrap yard
That’s good advice I will have to take that into consideration 👍🏻
The right tools make it faster. Used to tear them down as a kid for my dad to rebuild.
What tools make it easy?
@@ethanstroyan622 Definitely bring some snap ring pliers.
Thanks for all your hard work. Now I can sit on my couch and binge watch scrap videos instead of taking a transmission apart.😂
Thanks for this particular video! You have saved a lot of people a lot of misery and precious time.
keep up the work, this way the garage will eventually get cleared out
I like it when you explain the process of taking apart scrap and pricing for it. Love it.
I used a sledge hammer to break one up just so I could move and load it by myself. I unbolted everything on the outside and the outside layer of parts in the bell. I don't have an impact wrench to use on 7 important bolts in the bell so I used the sledge. The sledging was easy. I ended up with 30 pounds of aluminum, 110 of steel and 9 pounds of oil. Including cleanup it took more than 2 hours, so it wasn't worth it's value of about $22, but I just needed to get it gone. I captured most of the oil but I'll have to keep the aluminum for some time outside and hope that the exterior gunk weathers off to get a better price.
only if you really got bored in quarantine is that a good idea to take apart.
I'm sorry but you're reaction to the price differences made the entire video worth watching 😂 I wish you weren't like just under 3,000 miles away from where I live or I would love to do scrap videos with you, keep up the great work 👍
Back when I used to work in a scrap yard we would break them apart with a sledge hammer, made it very easy to take apart.
Great vid as always my man. Scrap yards price products based on recovery from a shredder (and then in turn from the current market value). When a yard looks at a piece of dirty Aluminium, they know that on average, 60% of the weight should be clean Aluminium. A shredders job is to process all of that, and spit out the product nice and clean at the end. This means that the price difference isn't going to be huge for the customer because the scrap yard will end up with the same product regardless. The yard will end up with the same amount of cast aluminium no matter what u do. The only cost to the yard running the shredder which is going to be in action regardless. (I own one, trust me on this....we want the shredder running as much as possible because sitting and doing nothing costs much more money)
Side note: Most of your steel looks like #1, and should be $20-30 a ton more than shred.
That being said, cleaning things like Dirty Extrusion if it's just some nails or screws, or cleaning bbq tops with just a few bangs from a hammer is TOTALLY worth it. And thats because the aluminium recovery is like 97%. We scrap yards love dirty extrusion more than most products because we can purchase it as lets say "15cents a pound" and sell it as a product called 3% (this is 97% aluminium) at a whopping 60cents a pound. Or clean it our selfs and get 70 cents. These are todays prices of course.
Keep up the great content my man!!
I have GOT to start pushing for a better price haha! I guess I’ve been losing a little by selling my prepared steel as shred, that’s just me being lazy. But I am NEVER lazy with my good Alu, so I should talk to them about bumping me up! Now I understand why they never care how much burned grease is on my bbqs, haha 😆
Price of knowledge and learning something! Priceless
Great video. Keep it up. My only suggestion, with deep respect, for the longevity of your tools, is most folks do not put a cheater pipe on a socket driver. The pawl and ratchet mechanism inside the driver is not designed for the leverage induced by said cheater pipe. Keep up the spirit. It's infectious.
Used to undo head bolts with my 3/8 ratchet, it's still going.
Good call. Use a breaker bar to get all the bolts started. Then pop the socket on a ratchet.
You forgot to mention transmission fluid stinks bad (my opinion). nice vid
I recently tried taking one apart and came to the same conclusion, only got about halfway and it took a few hours, prices would have to go up by at least 5x to make it worth it. Thanks for doing this, now I can just get rid of the stuff an not worry that I'm throwing away money.
@thubprint @zm5221 @lornekerzner5718 So, I'm a bit late on this one, but I have moved a great deal of Clean Auto Cast Aluminum or ISRI Code: TENCE. My best year so far I moved just over 31 million lbs it took about 678 40 foot HC containers to move this much material, I exported all of it and have been since 2011. Generally the guys that breaks down engines, transmissions and engine combos take about 30 min to brake down engines and transmissions. It takes a bit longer than an hour if it's am aluminum combo and under an hour if the engine has a cast iron block and heads. It takes a team of 10 to 12 guys to produce 46,000 LBS per week and if they have enough material that can produce about 1 1/2 loads per week. I have been getting 59 cents to 78 cents per lbs since I've been in the business. Your 3 hours is way off compared to what the guys that do it every day. Hopefully I get a a special use on a properly that I want to buy and run 6 furnaces that melt 3,000 lbs per hours. Now I'm not going to tell you how but I can reduce the cost per 46,000 lbs by close to $15,000 per load and increase that price per lb by at least 0.14 cents per lb with my process.
@thubprint By the way lighting fast on that transmission is about 22 minutes
Scrap is so low here that transmissions just go as dirty aluminium. Same with lawnmower engines, etc.
I like to micro scrap, but not worth the time and effort now.
Hopefully prices will come back up.
Great investigative video.
Thank you for doing this video.
I've held off going to the scrap yard for 6months because of *thinking i needed to strip the gearbox in my pile first :D
Definitely don’t, haha! Best thing to do is try and sell it. Might go, might not, but at least post it and give it a week or two.
Nice vid, been missing your content lately.
Glad I watched this. Thank you
Nice video dude
do you make a video showing the sale of bottles
awesome video very clear explication keep doing the thing
For the guy out there that just needed to hear the words I bet you there is more snap rings that is the quote of the video snap rings
I've been told that the steel in the transmission is number 1 steel
I guess that would depend on your yard? Mine has prepared, cast, and shred. If the bell was steel it would be cast and if the inner parts were thick enough they would be prepared.
Wow,wow,wow!
Thanks
Thank you for your videos man.
It is my pleasure my guy 😋
Loved the vid!!!
Thank you! Next time I’m gonna try find a private buyer though, some folks made it pretty clear I lost money by scrapping it lol
No experiences on dissembling transmission
This was my first, haha! Not doing it again. Just gonna try sell them to transmission shops from here on out.
Found one the other day, thanks for the info! :D
The overdrive unit on that transmission has a VERY strong spring in it and its dangerous to take apart so be careful
There not worth breaking down but good job
Great video, good to know.
you need to dismantle a lot of gearboxes to get a decent scrap price aluminium isn't exactly a good source of income but hey anything's better than nothing
My yard would call it auto aluminum witch is worth a good amount more but yeah I would just bring it in as breakage- I'm not going to waste 3-4 hours on a difference of about $6.
In Slovakia 0,50€ 1 kilo cast Al
27,50€
12v but great brand!! Nice vid brother
Well crap! I wish it was more for all your work. But great information!
Iron makes 35% of Earthś mass, you can get it for free from soil (concentration ranges from 0.2% to 55% depending on the land type), so if you got paid 3 cents for steel you should be thankful
never knew someone dump 15 quarts of transmission fluid all over their entire workshop floor, versus using a long cooking pan to catch it all
Core price hoss
Awesome stuff 👍
Oil is cheap, so I believe scrap steel price follows. I think it’s just cheaper to mine ore and demand is down.
Hey Thub hope youre settling in to your new place...notice youve mentioned poop scrap prices lately on light iron, here in UK its gone down from around 10 pence per kilo to 4 pence, here its cuz we sell mainly to China and with the lockdown over there, they aint buying, dont know if thats how it goes in your neck of the woods? Cheers much for this vid, saved me time on an old gear box i was gunna break down. What are your or anyone that may read this thoughts on breaking down an engine? its cast aliminium not iron. Keep up the good work bud, ive enjoyed hours and hours chilling watching you bottle pick (my mrs dont understand the apeal and to be honest, i dont understand it either lol) but i loves it. Cheers for sharing your journey mate :)
Nice video
Great video! My question is: who the hell ever figured out how to engineer a transmission to do what it do??
General Motors in the 1930's, in a time long before Obama destroyed the company
@@CoalCrackerCummins I mean he didn't act alone. I might add we're in Book Three of that era now.
General Motors sure had their hand out when he broke his biggest promise immediately. "I will NOT give money to Big Banks and Wall Street." That sure turned into "Bailouts-R-Us" in record time after being sworn in.
For the record I'm pretty sure GM got off The Naughty List of recipients quickly by repaying everything they got. I haven't performed recent research, but last I knew there were companies that considered that money "a forever gift" instead of "a loan without terms". It's likely every insurance company repaid to keep positive public images, unless a larger insurer bought their book of business and trashed the name along with all "unofficial debt". To them, I guess on behalf of all taxpayers, YOU'RE WELCOME.
Book Six actually if we're honest about the Bush alignment as DNC operatives posing as Republicans.
Is there money in the rear end gears
You mean like the rear diff? Definitely, depending on the model. Vintage stuff is good money for sure and anything hard to find. Something like a Honda Civic or a dodge caravan will still sell but if your buyer can easily pull one themselves from a parts car then you can’t charge very much
the money is in the knowledge. if this guy knew any chemistry he could have extracted the nickel and chromium from the metals he scraps. The gears don't have much nickel/chromium, but stainless steel do. Without any knowledge he just sells a manual labor and manual labor doesn't have any big value because it doesn't contain any intelligence in it.
tried ....once....
but cant wait to see video now and hope you dont end up with same conclusion
Tried to fit a grill and a washing machine in my van today... not fun, and did not work haha
Steel is that low? That's INSANE! I know the pandemic made prices go up but damn that's unfathomable. I live in in the US and the lowest it's been for me it's $0.08/lb so probably like $0.12/lb in Canadian Dollard.
It’s back now somewhat, I get 0.10c/lb for tin shred. Steel is never as good in Canada as it is in the states tho
💖 ur vids.
Mercury always in Gatorade bro
😂👌
Why didnt you just weigh it before hand bro? Lol
Its just not worth it now days. Just throw it in a pile and wait for the prices go up.
Yeah, stockpile as long as you can afford. Now, months later it is like getting 300% return on investment.
Is it possible that the individual rings and other components might bring in more money at a rebuild shop?
I think that would be a challenge with the rings in particular because those parts tend to get replaced, but a fellow messaged me after I posted this video to point out what a waste it was to scrap it when it would easily sell to a transmission shop for a few hundred bucks. Next time I find one I’m definitely going to try and sell it as-is before breaking it down!
Hopefully you made up the money with the views on here jeeez
Scrap a hole car by disably
What if you just took the back cover off which looked pretty easy, and then left all the rest of it as breakage?
lol mercury in gatorade haha
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Noice
Yeah I definitely learned a few things with this one lol!
Please wear latex gloves next time. ATF, esp dirty ATF, is incredibly carcinogenic. Good video though!
I didn’t know that, thank you!
It does not rise to the level of incredible.
Slightly, yes if your hands are immersed in it everyday.
Gotta pay yourself a living wage.
Rip-off
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