Thanks. I managed to hit b+2 into heat smash on the military stage , while in rage and the wall blasted. I did 144 dmg. And ordered a zafina body pillow on on the spot , but on the other side of it is a picture frame whisperer.
Some notes i found out from watching high level Zafina i wanted to share, since theres 0 info on Zafina on the internet: - Her best wallcombo with spin is WS3 DF1 !S DF1,2,1 - However you have to delay the first hit as well as the third hit of the DF1,2,1 to make it connect, its more damage and more importantly less selfdamage, so definitely worth practicing - TRT D1+2 into DF1 hits everything except quickstand for a ton of damage, which extremely few people know. - After spin in most combos you can jab dash into df1,4 for optimal wallcarry. (except after ws1,2 for some reason) - In the SCR DF4 CH combo you can spin immediately with MNT 4,3 and face people the correct way to allow for a wallsplat with either MNT 2,1,4 or MNT 1,3B into heat burst for more wallcarry, does same damage as the combo frame shows, but faces them the correct way. - After WS2 do a neutral 3 hold back into DF1 (or just double DF1) and then normal combo route for a lot more damage. - Lastly for the D3 into MNT combo you can end with MNT d+4 into DF1, hits some wakeup options directly for a ton of damage and if they dont get hit you're +6, with pretty much the same combo damage. Love your content Frame, you made me interested in making Zafina work and attempt to optimize her even though it is super hard with the lack of info spread around, hope this is useful to you or the viewers
49:43 tarantula 3 has gotta be one of my favourite moves in the whole game for the reasons you mentioned. Visually, strategically and thematically it's just perfect and it makes me so happy lol
Cool guide. Thanks. Being a dirty Kazuya main I have actually spent more time with Zafina in this game and I did mention some of the following stuff in the stream the other day but everyone ignored me XD. So ill try to explain it better here. Her combo damage in open space is horrible BUT, she actually has some powerful reset and refloat technologies I don't see many people use that are literally game changers imo. First up... D+2,4,3. I noticed Chanel doing this in a couple of his replays. I don't use this move in neutral but the reason why this move is good is after a tornado in combos will connect the last two hits and set's you up for Guaranteed Oki and scarecrow mixups. (timing is a bit tricky with the claw tornado but you basically just do immediately and don't dash in) (I like Db+3 or Ff+3). I've got so much reward for this that I started to do it a lot unless I know the maximum damage combo will kill, or take to the wall. 1, 3 when used say after a backdash to wiff the 1 acts as a counter hit and you get a free tarantula 2 launcher. so maybe not just for wierdos after all.... Try it. Df+4,1 after tornado as you run up for an ender has a cancel off the last hit by holding downback which allows you to hit a WS 4, if you are fast enough. As far as I can tell If the opponent does anything but tech roll or quick back getup you get a refloat combo into the claw just frame and all of a sudden her combo damage doesn't look so bad. I have won alot of rounds doing this. If they do start to tech roll you can cancel immediately into scarecrow with a manual transition and hit them with mixup options including the scarecrow heat smash, and they have to respect it. Some of this sounds gimmicky on paper, and is advanced and takes practise but it's powerful stuff Weebs! Also ignore this post harada and buff Zafina please.
Damn, u did it! Thanks bro! I thought your Alisa video was so detailed that a Zafina guide coming from u would be on the same level if not better! Thanx again
WR3, df1, repeat, lol, I catch ppl with that all the time, especially in heat cuz of the armor, oh and I catch ppl with trt d1+2 then mantis df1 can only be blocked with a quick stand, but if it hits, 50dmg total, other than that, I fish for mantis 4,3 CH launcher cuz I can get 85dmg without walls, heat or rage, a lil tricky with timing, but highest dmg by far, great guide frame! My setups are different, but we get to the same place with zaf eventually, lol
Thank you for this! My first tekken since playing 3 in a dorm however long ago that was. Never stuck with a fighting game, but goddammit I will this time. Tried most of the characters in combo trials, practice, etc and zafina is my favorite. Ofc turns out she isnt very strong and kind of hard. This guide is great. Getting better. Went through with the game up, wrote everything down. Going to work it in. I appreciate all the work!
Thank you Frame, as a complete Zafina Loyalist, i need every advantage in knowledge i can get. It's rough out there. I hope she gets some over he old moves a la her T7 uf1+2 I did beat a 37 win streak King after being down 0-2.
Thanks man. I have always liked tekken but never really got super into it until T8 where I spend hours labbing. I made a Freddy Krueger costume for zafina which i thought was hilarious and wanted to learn her lol. Your guide was very thorough, explained stance transitions in an easy to understand way, why and when to use them. It was great information which was easy for me to understand. I appreciate the time you put in to make this for us.
@@Blaydtingles okay but the first balance patch isn't even out and she doesn't suck. She's not top tier broken but she's got great mix ups. Do t do a guide and shit on the character. Period.
@FrameWhisperer thanks for this bro as a new Tekken player starting with the 8th installment and deciding to play Zafina because not only is she smoking hot but, she has some really cool animations and fighting style that just feels so badass to control and unique among the other Tekken fighters.
Good stuff and a very comprehensive (even if basic) guide! I think you could have said a bit about her throws - nothing special there, but it's far easier to throw someone even with basic throws in this game, as they act as CH tool or counter to armor/parry moves. E.g. 2+4 and uf+1+2 have always had good oki options, but it was unlikely to catch someone off-guard in T7. Also, adding a short overview of enviromental moves (wall/floor breaks, bounces, etc.) could be beneficial for people who would like to utilize stage gimmicks a bit more - but I guess it's more of an intermediate stuff, rather then a starter. Let's hope for the buffs!
What a guide! It's definitely kickstarted my journey towards becoming 'fluent' with this character. One small thing the guide is missing in my opinion though, what to do when you get a wall blast, wall break, floor break, balcony, etc? Or is this just a matter of impromptu figuring out what part of your bread and butter combos to continue from? Again, great guide otherwise, solid 9.9 out of 10
Still no idea what I’m supposed to be doing with mantis. It’s supposed to be a mix, but it has no power low. You get a minus on hit low-mid string, but it’s not natural. Scarecrow has actual mix, but the best mantis can seemingly do is loop back into scarecrow to 50:50 again
Chaining mixups instead of super long combos is probably why I'm good with Zafina. I've never been good with doing combos in a fight game but I can get 60 damage consistently with her and always be mixing up. Didn't play Tekken 7 but I chose her at random, or rather she was chosen for me at random for me in 8, and I've been maining her since. Thought I'm super looking foreard to the patch after Evo Japan and what she gets.
For someone who famously hates Bryan, it seems that Zafina shares a bit in his gameplan with the unorthodox poking to an extent. I might give her a try, thanks for the quality video sir!
Hope they didn't nerf her because of Arsalan. First, they shouldn't nerf based on pro play. Second, Arsalan himself says that he never plays the best of the best but instead characters that are good but underestimated or characters that not many people play.
B4? Do you mean b3? There are numerous moves that guarantee b3 as a follow up: Df 3,4 F4 Src 1+2 Ff2 ch While crouching df3 (mnt df1 is easier to land and does more dmg) Her parry (b1+3 or b2,4) guarantees b3. And her scarecrow heat smash. These are all the moves afaik that guarantees b3.
TIMESTAMPS
01:55 Movement overview
Key moves (start point)
02:48 1,2
03:58 1,3 + SCR transition
06:55 DF1, + extensions
10:40 DB2
11:40 FF3
15:41 FF4
17:05 DF2+3
17:55 FF2
18:24 FF3+4
20:50 FFF3
22:04 D2,4
23:47 D1,1
25:50 1+2
Lows (out of stance)
28:04 D3
32:05 DB3
33:05 DB4
Scarecrow (SCR)
34:35 3+4 (+ moves that go into SCR)
35:26 SCR 1+2
36:11 SCR 3
36:57 SCR 1
37:50 SCR 3+4
37:59 SCR 4
39:03 SCR 2,1 (main string)
39:49 SCR 2,2
40:22 SCR B1+2
40:47 SCR DF4
42:15 SCR Heat smash
Mantis (MNT)
43:07 D3+4 (+ moves that go into MNT)
43:58 MNT 1,3
44:33 MNT 2,1,4
45:16 MNT 3
46:04 MNT 4
46:42 MNT UF3
46:57 MNT D4
47:29 MNT DF4
Tarantula (TRT)
48:06 Overview of stance
48:52 TRT 1
49:06 TRT D1+2
49:41 TRT 3
50:30 TRT 1+2
50:48 TRT 2
Mantis (MNT), again
51:05 MNT DF2
51:49 MNT 1+2
Tarantula (TRT), again
52:11 Moves that go into TRT
Heat
54:06 Start
55:13 B1, 1+2
55:54 B1+3
Heat engagers and claw moves
58:08 DF4,1
58:38 SCR 2,1
58:48 DF1 (SCR, MNT, TRT)
1:01:44 DF4,1
1:01:48 F1+2
Heat smashes
1:02:58 Normal heat smash
1:03:44 B2
1:04:20 SCR heat smash
Punishment
1:06:19 1,3
1:06:35 1,2
1:06:47 1,4
1:07:10 D1
1:07:15 DF1,4
1:07:26 DF4,1
1:07:53 F4
1:08:06 DF3,4
1:08:48 DF2
1:10:02 ws4
1:10:20 ws3
1:11:38 ws1,2
1:13:05 ws2
Combos
1:14:50 DF2
1:17:48 ws2
1:18:41 CH D3
1:19:47 Odd launchers
Wall
1:21:42 Wallsplat tools
1:23:05 Wall combos fron midscreen
1:24:33 Close range wall combos
Closing words
1:28:32
Thank you for this!
Fucking legend
Frame whisperer's guides are always so professional 👍🏾
Ikr?
Thanks. I managed to hit b+2 into heat smash on the military stage , while in rage and the wall blasted. I did 144 dmg. And ordered a zafina body pillow on on the spot , but on the other side of it is a picture frame whisperer.
Some notes i found out from watching high level Zafina i wanted to share, since theres 0 info on Zafina on the internet:
- Her best wallcombo with spin is WS3 DF1 !S DF1,2,1 - However you have to delay the first hit as well as the third hit of the DF1,2,1 to make it connect, its more damage and more importantly less selfdamage, so definitely worth practicing
- TRT D1+2 into DF1 hits everything except quickstand for a ton of damage, which extremely few people know.
- After spin in most combos you can jab dash into df1,4 for optimal wallcarry. (except after ws1,2 for some reason)
- In the SCR DF4 CH combo you can spin immediately with MNT 4,3 and face people the correct way to allow for a wallsplat with either MNT 2,1,4 or MNT 1,3B into heat burst for more wallcarry, does same damage as the combo frame shows, but faces them the correct way.
- After WS2 do a neutral 3 hold back into DF1 (or just double DF1) and then normal combo route for a lot more damage.
- Lastly for the D3 into MNT combo you can end with MNT d+4 into DF1, hits some wakeup options directly for a ton of damage and if they dont get hit you're +6, with pretty much the same combo damage.
Love your content Frame, you made me interested in making Zafina work and attempt to optimize her even though it is super hard with the lack of info spread around, hope this is useful to you or the viewers
actually her best wallcombo with spin is probably Backdash F+3, SCR DF1, !S DF1,2,1 with delays as you mentioned
THIS IS ALL I WAS LOOKING FOR GOD BLESS YOU GUYS! there are like 2 GoD rank zafina players atm, content is indeed sparse😂
I learned Zafina in tekken 7 thanks to your guide, it help me a lot, keep up the good work
49:43 tarantula 3 has gotta be one of my favourite moves in the whole game for the reasons you mentioned. Visually, strategically and thematically it's just perfect and it makes me so happy lol
Cool guide. Thanks. Being a dirty Kazuya main I have actually spent more time with Zafina in this game and I did mention some of the following stuff in the stream the other day but everyone ignored me XD. So ill try to explain it better here. Her combo damage in open space is horrible BUT, she actually has some powerful reset and refloat technologies I don't see many people use that are literally game changers imo. First up...
D+2,4,3. I noticed Chanel doing this in a couple of his replays. I don't use this move in neutral but the reason why this move is good is after a tornado in combos will connect the last two hits and set's you up for Guaranteed Oki and scarecrow mixups. (timing is a bit tricky with the claw tornado but you basically just do immediately and don't dash in) (I like Db+3 or Ff+3). I've got so much reward for this that I started to do it a lot unless I know the maximum damage combo will kill, or take to the wall.
1, 3 when used say after a backdash to wiff the 1 acts as a counter hit and you get a free tarantula 2 launcher. so maybe not just for wierdos after all.... Try it.
Df+4,1 after tornado as you run up for an ender has a cancel off the last hit by holding downback which allows you to hit a WS 4, if you are fast enough. As far as I can tell If the opponent does anything but tech roll or quick back getup you get a refloat combo into the claw just frame and all of a sudden her combo damage doesn't look so bad. I have won alot of rounds doing this. If they do start to tech roll you can cancel immediately into scarecrow with a manual transition and hit them with mixup options including the scarecrow heat smash, and they have to respect it.
Some of this sounds gimmicky on paper, and is advanced and takes practise but it's powerful stuff Weebs! Also ignore this post harada and buff Zafina please.
Thanks for the guide. You actually got me to play Zaf a week ago so thid guide makes certain things more clear. A lot of fun with this character
Damn, u did it! Thanks bro! I thought your Alisa video was so detailed that a Zafina guide coming from u would be on the same level if not better! Thanx again
I haven't felt this excited learning a new character (lee in t7) and your guide is an absolute treat and complement to that!
Love your guides. Loved the Miguel one too that you did in 7... Really hope he comes back. Bookmarked for future use!
Your guides are much better than MainMans. Thank you for this. I just picked her up and this is exactly what I was looking for.
The homie has a grudge match he’s training for, and he’s uses Zafina. This is perfect timing!
What grudge match?
There's not enough videos with this amount of helpful information and since I saw your livestreams, I know you know what you're talking about.
Kinda hate that some of the videos on yt about zafina is unhelpful and has a lot of false statements so thanks frame.
Honestly too many new people putting out guides. They really don't get the nuances of Tekken and the information can be incorrect.
By new I mean look guys I got to red ranks or mighty ruler.
WR3, df1, repeat, lol, I catch ppl with that all the time, especially in heat cuz of the armor, oh and I catch ppl with trt d1+2 then mantis df1 can only be blocked with a quick stand, but if it hits, 50dmg total, other than that, I fish for mantis 4,3 CH launcher cuz I can get 85dmg without walls, heat or rage, a lil tricky with timing, but highest dmg by far, great guide frame! My setups are different, but we get to the same place with zaf eventually, lol
Mantis 3,4?
@@ayosgsauce I fixed it, mantis 4,3
Thank you for this! My first tekken since playing 3 in a dorm however long ago that was. Never stuck with a fighting game, but goddammit I will this time. Tried most of the characters in combo trials, practice, etc and zafina is my favorite. Ofc turns out she isnt very strong and kind of hard. This guide is great. Getting better. Went through with the game up, wrote everything down. Going to work it in. I appreciate all the work!
Dang yall should have never left
This is probably the best turn of anything I've ever seen. Thank you!!! It's so much great info in a really smooth relatable way. 🔥🔥🔥🦄
Thank you Frame, as a complete Zafina Loyalist, i need every advantage in knowledge i can get.
It's rough out there. I hope she gets some over he old moves a la her T7 uf1+2
I did beat a 37 win streak King after being down 0-2.
I want my 2 hours [Alisa intermediate guide] whenever you feel like it Sensei Frame🥰 And thanks for this too!!
timestamps please ;((
Thanks man. I have always liked tekken but never really got super into it until T8 where I spend hours labbing. I made a Freddy Krueger costume for zafina which i thought was hilarious and wanted to learn her lol.
Your guide was very thorough, explained stance transitions in an easy to understand way, why and when to use them. It was great information which was easy for me to understand. I appreciate the time you put in to make this for us.
I’d rather this over the Arslan Ash one on DashFight. ❤
That guide seems basically for clicks cause Aslan dropped her immediately and its pretty obvious he hasn't really explored her that much in t8
He spent the video calling her trash
@@Ryuuk00yeah, I didn’t like it
@@Ryuuk00first few times were warranted, but just got irritating throughout, although I’m sure he’s irritated as well
@@Blaydtingles okay but the first balance patch isn't even out and she doesn't suck. She's not top tier broken but she's got great mix ups. Do t do a guide and shit on the character. Period.
I hope she is buff and restore advantage major update
me too!
youre my favourite youtuber smile
Learning her today. Def gonna take a long long time to get comfortable!
using this to help get my Anti- Zafina lab started, ideally a dedicated video is released at some point 😭
@FrameWhisperer thanks for this bro as a new Tekken player starting with the 8th installment and deciding to play Zafina because not only is she smoking hot but, she has some really cool animations and fighting style that just feels so badass to control and unique among the other Tekken fighters.
the balance is restored
Good stuff and a very comprehensive (even if basic) guide! I think you could have said a bit about her throws - nothing special there, but it's far easier to throw someone even with basic throws in this game, as they act as CH tool or counter to armor/parry moves. E.g. 2+4 and uf+1+2 have always had good oki options, but it was unlikely to catch someone off-guard in T7. Also, adding a short overview of enviromental moves (wall/floor breaks, bounces, etc.) could be beneficial for people who would like to utilize stage gimmicks a bit more - but I guess it's more of an intermediate stuff, rather then a starter.
Let's hope for the buffs!
You can much more reliably get d2 after ch db2 btw. Its much less damage than b3 but it should be guaranteed at all ranges.
You're still missing the timestamps btw
This is absolutely amazing! Thank you so much for this!
I’m guessing from the release of this, you got that promo; hell yeah uksam
What a guide! It's definitely kickstarted my journey towards becoming 'fluent' with this character. One small thing the guide is missing in my opinion though, what to do when you get a wall blast, wall break, floor break, balcony, etc? Or is this just a matter of impromptu figuring out what part of your bread and butter combos to continue from? Again, great guide otherwise, solid 9.9 out of 10
Still no idea what I’m supposed to be doing with mantis. It’s supposed to be a mix, but it has no power low. You get a minus on hit low-mid string, but it’s not natural. Scarecrow has actual mix, but the best mantis can seemingly do is loop back into scarecrow to 50:50 again
you fully get dash b3 after CH ff2
This guide is really quite good
Been waiting for this 🙏
Chaining mixups instead of super long combos is probably why I'm good with Zafina. I've never been good with doing combos in a fight game but I can get 60 damage consistently with her and always be mixing up. Didn't play Tekken 7 but I chose her at random, or rather she was chosen for me at random for me in 8, and I've been maining her since. Thought I'm super looking foreard to the patch after Evo Japan and what she gets.
I feel like thats what zafina is made for, more so mix ups instead of combos. Just combo when she gets them.
For someone who famously hates Bryan, it seems that Zafina shares a bit in his gameplan with the unorthodox poking to an extent. I might give her a try, thanks for the quality video sir!
She has way better pokes then Bryan 😅
CH db2 into dash b3 is guaranteed, and otherwise you can d2
Awesome Zafina Guide thank u
Hope they didn't nerf her because of Arsalan. First, they shouldn't nerf based on pro play. Second, Arsalan himself says that he never plays the best of the best but instead characters that are good but underestimated or characters that not many people play.
Also Aslan ash, maining Feng and Azucena lol
@@via_negativa6183 He's literally playing everyone right now, trying them all out. Lol
Thats why he dropped Zafina and called her dead
Master class thank you for the video
appreciate this bro ,, had to sub
Great Guide as Always - Still Hyped I got to play you again - But where is the going into TRT Manually Section ? ;)
What is the Rage Art punish?
Watched the whole video before, but this is a lot to go through without timestamps on a revisit. 😂
Df3,4 db4,2
yessir here we go 😁
Wtf is the numbers ? Y’all can’t just say the button , x , square , triangle 😭😭 . Y’all making what’s hard even harder .
1 = Square
2 = Triangle
3 = X
4 = 0
2
1. 4
3
This is if your controller buttons are set to default.
Reason why I play with her because she has valdo moves from SC
I've actually gotten a lot of utility out of db4 as a ch launcher for many an overly aggressive player. The combo is also pretty chunky
can also be a real scum bag and gimmick it with a Ki charge. I beat a 20 win streak paul doing this and I felt oh so dirty...
is zafina intimidating to learn? planning to pick her up. I am main steve. i am planning to have her as my first female character
It takes a while getting comfortable with the transitions of her stances.
Is Zafinas punishment for deathfists and demoman really just 1+2? That sucks.
hey could a zafina main tell me after which moves or CH a b4 is unavoidable for my opponent? Would be great 😁
B4? Do you mean b3? There are numerous moves that guarantee b3 as a follow up:
Df 3,4
F4
Src 1+2
Ff2 ch
While crouching df3 (mnt df1 is easier to land and does more dmg)
Her parry (b1+3 or b2,4) guarantees b3.
And her scarecrow heat smash.
These are all the moves afaik that guarantees b3.
What song is that from T5 I forgot
Estrada something
Finally
who else u will make for guide bro
Dunno, maybe Jack or Leo
I struggle against her. Tricky. maybe i should learn her frames and to punish? maybe later.
probably be more patient and don't try to swing into her. The frames are pretty bad yes.
My character's = zafina + alisa + lili
Almost 2hr vid no timestamps 💀
her combos are complex and slow she needs a buff still and damage sucks
How to play zafina
Step 1 : pick any other character 😂
only 1:30? ez