@@nikosurfingYT I knew 8 was gonna garbage when they announced heat and the design philosophy of going further into making the engagements all about offense. There was a PS5 setup at my arcade a couple of months ago and I tried it out of curiosity...that game feels terrible to play. I'm never touching that piece of shit again.
Made it to TGS with Devil Jin and my biggest complaints are character balance and glitches. From your gameplay it seems like you're just not familiar with certain matchups that comes with time and experience. Another thing is don't be afraid to just block, in lower ranks people throw out the worst moves and don't get punished for it. Make them regret using those moves. If you're not sure you can always use the replay option it helps tremendously.
Thats awesome man! Yeah I've gotten a bit better from this video, looking back at it nowadays it's like, jeez I was such a skrub. But I've still got a long ways to go before i'm decent. Think my worst matchup these days is King lol.
Its the heat smash and rage art super armor grabs and all these tracking moves they need to revamp the whole game everyone shouldnt feel like a 50/50 mix up character and its never your turn when its your turn this game is fun to play with friends that's it tuff dbz soundtrack
This game is legit hard, but also, you need to learn his stance. You’re doing too many easy to block high strings. You need to convince the opponent you’re going low, by doing low moves. Then they’ll duck, and that’s how you get to launch. You can’t launch shit if they’re just standing there holding block the entire match. I’m also not seeing many, if any throws. Grab them. They’ll either break it, but are now worried about breaking again, which will slow them down, or they’ll eat it and you get free damage. Attempting to throw, even if they break everytime, adds to their mental stack, which will slow them down.
@@Echilon_30 No problem. I’ve actually been stuck at just Garyou, so ur already ahead of me, but I don’t really enjoy ranked that much so haven’t put a ton of time into it. It’s too frustrating with all the quitting. Even if they don’t quit, I feel like you can learn character matchups so much quicker by doing long casual sets in lobby. I’m always down to play. I’m @robertoelscorch0 on PS5. Hit me up!
@@Echilon_30same Tekken isn't the same they clearly made some characters way more spam friendly. Defense does not pay off here just overwhelming force.
I ain't no Law player dawg. THAT'S mashing. I'm atleast thinking of what I'm doing and trying to mixup my opponent lmao Law players just do the exact same string over and over whenever they feel like disregarding shit
That was a bad performance but tekken 8 is where I stop buying this game. Grabs are over powered, hit connections in a lot of instances should not occur and the added battle mechanics should not have been added to the game.
Yeahhh this is my first Tekken, so I am indeed struggling to adapt and learn the mechanics of the game. Feel like I played much better in my previous videos. Grabs are insanely stupid, thus my hate for king.
@@Echilon_30 I’m with you on the king players, on top of that his slams are overpowered. Ducking seems to help more for me since I’m not great at grab breaks and a lot of them can just be ducked. Mostly what I seen with law was all the sweeps you allowed him to get on you and also most players I run into now just bait you into an air move so they can do their 1 combo they’ve learned that’s drains all your life. Good luck with making it to the top.
@@getwitit212 thanks a lot! And you as well on your journey to the top. I think my biggest issue is character knowledge, as you said with Law, I just got knowledge checked as I didn't really know his moves. I think I've just gotta spend some time to evaluate characters n have more patience for sure.
@@TJBlack3.5 Yeeeaah im kinda new into the series and can't really say I played T7 a whole lot, really only played with friends every now n again. Got like 3hrs of playtime on that one.
I love tekken 8 but the first thing i noticed is how easy it is to complete a high damage combo even for ppl who essentially just mash, but the updates since have improved alot of the mechanics imo.
Shore up your reaction and punishment, those two alone should get you to purple ranks. Jin's 1,2,u1 is launch punishable, 1,d3,4 and 2,1,4:4 is reactable. Also, if you find a gameplay that's working, don't stop until they learn how to deal with it
you are going to be at a huge disadvantage against people who have been playing for a long time. they might be playing their 3rd or 4th character in the red ranks. but they still have all of the defensive knowledge you don't. even though offensively you seem to have some options that work for you, you are just going to be surprised and hit by "random" stuff all the time until you view replays and lab it. its a huge effort but thats the way to improve. granted in t8 offense has never been better. so just pick draganov and just bully people to death if thats how you want to win.
Yeah that is something I've began doing is reviewing my games. It has helped tremendously. Id rather become a more well rounded player than strictly offense :) thanks for watching!
@@scandzlambz8539 must've never met a law player. I don't sit there n mash until it works lmao swear this Tekken community is so hateful to hwo when there's law players and "honest" kazuya players
The problem with Rank is they won't let you fight higher rank fighters enough to improve. So it's best to get to a rank your comfortable with, I,am a Tekken King then STOP playing it and move to Quick Matches. You'll fight more higher ranked players and since you're not ranked you get more rematches.
Yeah I'm definitely going to move to quick matches. Just feel like people will find that boring for videos, so might just play it more on my own time or post up a poll or something. Thanks!
😂😂😂 Lmao.. Sorry but this rant while playing was hilarious. Think we all rant and rave at times with fighting games. You take it to another level though bro. 😂😂😂 Way I see it at the end of the day.. it's just cheap entertainment to pass the time giving you a cheap thrill when you win some.. and then you lose some. Because that's how it always goes. What else did you expect? Lmao 😂
@@chessmanx548 I hear you lmao. Think I was just a tad bit tilted in this video, not my norm tbh. I do like going thru fighting games and seeing more improvement, that's what keeps me on them.
Fellow hwo player here 12 4 isn't real people can mash that string. Tekken is very frame data heavy. This game is a bitch but it's a bitch because of the heat and frames you get. By the way fam you have to turn your opponent to block because the frame traps your doing are based off of you hitting your opponent but the frames are different on block fam I can show you so some crazy stuff with hwo. But hwo has to work his lil ass off people hate him because he can stand in front of you and death by a thousand cuts you.
I appreciate that! Yeah I've been trying to learn more about this games frame data, because it LOOKS much different than it is. I still am going to stick with hwo, bc I love his playstyle.
Hwoarang mains are fuckin rare dude. I would just practice on strings if i were you and mix up lows and mids. Forget these crybabys. I'm a Lars main and I'm getting back to Hwoarang too. Lars has the worst strings in the game.
no offense but, i can tell by you and your opponents gameplay that in any other tekken yall would both be no higher than avenger rank(yellow) for this very reason everything ur saying about t8 is absolutely true. the game is insanely scrubby and defense has been traded for mashing instead. they pretty much removed the skill floor so anyone can win, on that same note they also significantly dropped the skill ceiling. its impossible to actually be better than someone.
I appreciate your honesty. This is my first tekken I've taken seriously after all, but it is also once my most terrible performances, but I prefer to show my worst and best to be transparent :) I do think the game is extremely mashy and aggressive, I did play Tekken 7 off and on, and the differences in players is wild. Again, thanks for your input, cheers!
I meant no offense bro. Keep grinding. It's just something I noticed within hours of playing. I'm tryna teach my homeboy, a soul Calibur veteran, how to play Tekken 8. Within like 3 hours me and him are literally going back and forth. Granted he is a fgc pro, but that's not the point, dude had ZERO Tekken experience!!! This game is definitely a meme if we comparing it to the actual Tekken series.
@@killa6tv931 no prob! I don't take any brother. The game is definitely different from the others, but yeah it is quite literally the most chaotic mashy game I've played. But it's one of those games that man, when u hit that one combo you've practiced it feels good. Over time, I'm sure the game will progress and separate itself from the series because it is genuinely fun!
I just got my ass handed to me by a bryan player cuz they dont go outside or take showers. I left the match while chucking my glass cup across the room. Smh.
@@TheInfiniteKamui sounds like the average Tekken player over here lol. Hating on hwo for mix when most ppl can just spam electric. Just about all of moves can be crouched, and can get interrupted.
@@Echilon_30i main steve and everything gets crouched too you just have to adjust bro. You can't run the same shit expecting them to just not duck and not punish you. Also you do know its a 3D fighting game? Sidestepling really helps alot.Hwoarang has insanely good tools to pressure also keep out moves, he can launch punish (something steve can't do) and he has a full throw game.
@@tristanherb49 yeah I've adjusted a lot from this vid, my more recent Tekken vids I do change up my play style. Check one out n let me know if I should further adjust I'd be interested in what ya think. Cheers
Game is way too aggressive, lotta hold this/cant do anything plus too many forced guessing situations..make for a messy Tekken. They just need to put the korean backdash back how it was cause we got all this bs, and u won't "git gud" to stop some of this stuff cause its just....Broken......OH! And the TRACKING,Maan they remedial-fied Tekken as LowTierGod like to say.
This franchise is just trash… People talk about how oh this is ultimate fighting… It’s not… This is nothing more than ultimate button mashing… This is a game for the people who suck at traditional FGC games because this game breaks all the rules of traditional fighting games… Bullshit balance Boring to watch gameplay this is just a whack franchise… For me it died after 4
Yeah, it really is heavily button mashy, but they are releasing a new patch out in "hopes" to make the game less aggression rewarding so we'll see how it goes. This is the first tekken I actually sat down and said i'm going to learn a character, so the challenge of players in this game have made me keep coming back. But, the issue lies with the reward of putting your face in your controller, which is why I slowly lost interest in FighterZ, because they seemed to want to make it "more face paced" and they just made more neutral skips, less thought needed to mixup characters, etc.
@@Echilon_30 it’s crazy because one of the issues I’ve had with every single Tekken that makes it feel slow and sluggish to me when it comes to navigating… Its your back walk speed… in no other game do these people take such tippy tap steps to get backwards out of danger… It makes it feel very sluggish and slow so instead of just fixing navigation speed they figure make it fast paced by keep everything in your face high reward ratios and three different ways to armor up lol it’s fucking ridiculous
@@CharlieBangem Yeah that's why I've been learning wave dashing, because you can back dash much faster using the same thing. There is a lot of insane armor in this game. You should watch PhiDX, he does a lot of videos on fundamentals and ways to counter all the bs in this game. It's helped me A LOT.
Wow! This video really blew up. Thank you guys so much for watching, I do get better (I think) in more recent videos lol. Appreciate you all!
Went back to Tekken 7. This new game doesn't feel like Tekken at all. SMH...It's not fun.
me too
7 is trash too
@@SDub817 As player since T3, T8 is the worst, doesn't feel like Tekken game at all.
@@nikosurfingYT I knew 8 was gonna garbage when they announced heat and the design philosophy of going further into making the engagements all about offense. There was a PS5 setup at my arcade a couple of months ago and I tried it out of curiosity...that game feels terrible to play. I'm never touching that piece of shit again.
Shoot I went all the way back to Tag 2
Made it to TGS with Devil Jin and my biggest complaints are character balance and glitches. From your gameplay it seems like you're just not familiar with certain matchups that comes with time and experience. Another thing is don't be afraid to just block, in lower ranks people throw out the worst moves and don't get punished for it. Make them regret using those moves. If you're not sure you can always use the replay option it helps tremendously.
Thats awesome man!
Yeah I've gotten a bit better from this video, looking back at it nowadays it's like, jeez I was such a skrub. But I've still got a long ways to go before i'm decent. Think my worst matchup these days is King lol.
Tekken 2 was better! Go back to Tekken 7
Its the heat smash and rage art super armor grabs and all these tracking moves they need to revamp the whole game everyone shouldnt feel like a 50/50 mix up character and its never your turn when its your turn this game is fun to play with friends that's it tuff dbz soundtrack
Agreed, alot of the game now is a constant mix of confusion. And I appreciate it! Thanks for watching.
@@Echilon_30 np if you need more help lmk I know people who mastered howrag if u wanna main him🥊
@@Retrogamer01635 hell yeah brother! I appreciate it
That rock lee/might guy is fire
Dude made me question my sanity.
This game is legit hard, but also, you need to learn his stance. You’re doing too many easy to block high strings. You need to convince the opponent you’re going low, by doing low moves. Then they’ll duck, and that’s how you get to launch. You can’t launch shit if they’re just standing there holding block the entire match. I’m also not seeing many, if any throws. Grab them. They’ll either break it, but are now worried about breaking again, which will slow them down, or they’ll eat it and you get free damage. Attempting to throw, even if they break everytime, adds to their mental stack, which will slow them down.
Understood! Thank you I'll try and do that more. And yeah I'm still trying to figure out some of his mids and highs while in left/right flamingo
@@Echilon_30 No problem. I’ve actually been stuck at just Garyou, so ur already ahead of me, but I don’t really enjoy ranked that much so haven’t put a ton of time into it. It’s too frustrating with all the quitting. Even if they don’t quit, I feel like you can learn character matchups so much quicker by doing long casual sets in lobby. I’m always down to play. I’m @robertoelscorch0 on PS5. Hit me up!
Don't feel so bad because a legit game like call of duty is litteraly being rigged to let new players beat pro players.
Ain't no way 💀
@Echilon_30 Lolz it's funny,sad,ridiculous and that's the state of gaming.They had one job...Match making mode.
@@WARLORD626 And it's all over the place too, gaming is just on a downhill spiral it feels like. I'm hoping and praying DBZ sparking zero is good.
@@Echilon_30same Tekken isn't the same they clearly made some characters way more spam friendly. Defense does not pay off here just overwhelming force.
@@MrZayJames yeah they definitely made the game extremely aggressive, I'm assuming for a more "entertaining" competitive scene
Aint no way you're complaining about mashing as a rang player man 😭
I ain't no Law player dawg. THAT'S mashing. I'm atleast thinking of what I'm doing and trying to mixup my opponent lmao Law players just do the exact same string over and over whenever they feel like disregarding shit
I think there need to remove the heat and get Rage Drive back.
Heat is sutch a stress to deal with and one bottom heat smash is insane
@@Samurai_Squid I definitely think it should require an input. I wouldn't say completely remove it, but make it harder to use
That was a bad performance but tekken 8 is where I stop buying this game. Grabs are over powered, hit connections in a lot of instances should not occur and the added battle mechanics should not have been added to the game.
Yeahhh this is my first Tekken, so I am indeed struggling to adapt and learn the mechanics of the game. Feel like I played much better in my previous videos. Grabs are insanely stupid, thus my hate for king.
@@Echilon_30 I’m with you on the king players, on top of that his slams are overpowered. Ducking seems to help more for me since I’m not great at grab breaks and a lot of them can just be ducked. Mostly what I seen with law was all the sweeps you allowed him to get on you and also most players I run into now just bait you into an air move so they can do their 1 combo they’ve learned that’s drains all your life. Good luck with making it to the top.
@@getwitit212 thanks a lot! And you as well on your journey to the top. I think my biggest issue is character knowledge, as you said with Law, I just got knowledge checked as I didn't really know his moves. I think I've just gotta spend some time to evaluate characters n have more patience for sure.
@@Echilon_30 First Tekken is crazy
@@TJBlack3.5 Yeeeaah im kinda new into the series and can't really say I played T7 a whole lot, really only played with friends every now n again. Got like 3hrs of playtime on that one.
But hwoarang is the spam character with infinite plus frames or isn't he?
I'd say a good chunk his strings can be interrupted. Most crouched and jabbed, or, play Law lol.
I love tekken 8 but the first thing i noticed is how easy it is to complete a high damage combo even for ppl who essentially just mash, but the updates since have improved alot of the mechanics imo.
@@AmirAli-sd9do yeah it feels a lot better. If they just let us run the hands infinitely in ranked/casual I'd be happy
Shore up your reaction and punishment, those two alone should get you to purple ranks. Jin's 1,2,u1 is launch punishable, 1,d3,4 and 2,1,4:4 is reactable. Also, if you find a gameplay that's working, don't stop until they learn how to deal with it
you are going to be at a huge disadvantage against people who have been playing for a long time. they might be playing their 3rd or 4th character in the red ranks. but they still have all of the defensive knowledge you don't. even though offensively you seem to have some options that work for you, you are just going to be surprised and hit by "random" stuff all the time until you view replays and lab it. its a huge effort but thats the way to improve. granted in t8 offense has never been better. so just pick draganov and just bully people to death if thats how you want to win.
Yeah that is something I've began doing is reviewing my games. It has helped tremendously. Id rather become a more well rounded player than strictly offense :) thanks for watching!
That happened to me alot of times I'ma wait til Lei wulong comes out to start playing again
Fair enough, I'm hoping for some guest characters :)
Hopefully he's the Winter character and doesn't come out 3 years later
When the hwaorang player complains about mash
@@scandzlambz8539 must've never met a law player. I don't sit there n mash until it works lmao swear this Tekken community is so hateful to hwo when there's law players and "honest" kazuya players
@@Echilon_30people who say kazuya is honest are kinda weird. He is a walking casino the only argument they have is " but it takes execution to do"
The problem with Rank is they won't let you fight higher rank fighters enough to improve. So it's best to get to a rank your comfortable with, I,am a Tekken King then STOP playing it and move to Quick Matches. You'll fight more higher ranked players and since you're not ranked you get more rematches.
Yeah I'm definitely going to move to quick matches. Just feel like people will find that boring for videos, so might just play it more on my own time or post up a poll or something. Thanks!
I think the problem is somewhat the game but also you are not punishing the other player after blocking.
😂😂😂 Lmao.. Sorry but this rant while playing was hilarious. Think we all rant and rave at times with fighting games. You take it to another level though bro. 😂😂😂 Way I see it at the end of the day.. it's just cheap entertainment to pass the time giving you a cheap thrill when you win some.. and then you lose some. Because that's how it always goes. What else did you expect? Lmao 😂
@@chessmanx548 I hear you lmao. Think I was just a tad bit tilted in this video, not my norm tbh. I do like going thru fighting games and seeing more improvement, that's what keeps me on them.
Fellow hwo player here 12 4 isn't real people can mash that string. Tekken is very frame data heavy. This game is a bitch but it's a bitch because of the heat and frames you get. By the way fam you have to turn your opponent to block because the frame traps your doing are based off of you hitting your opponent but the frames are different on block fam I can show you so some crazy stuff with hwo. But hwo has to work his lil ass off people hate him because he can stand in front of you and death by a thousand cuts you.
I appreciate that! Yeah I've been trying to learn more about this games frame data, because it LOOKS much different than it is. I still am going to stick with hwo, bc I love his playstyle.
Hwoarang mains are fuckin rare dude. I would just practice on strings if i were you and mix up lows and mids. Forget these crybabys. I'm a Lars main and I'm getting back to Hwoarang too. Lars has the worst strings in the game.
Yeah ive been practicing quite a bit, wanna take hwoarang to tekken king. Lars absolutely destroys me sometimes he just be rolling sometimes lol
@Echilon_30 it's them 50/50s lol. You play on steam or ps5?
@@MrZayJames I be on steam, thinking of getting it on PS5 just bc lmao
no offense but, i can tell by you and your opponents gameplay that in any other tekken yall would both be no higher than avenger rank(yellow)
for this very reason everything ur saying about t8 is absolutely true. the game is insanely scrubby and defense has been traded for mashing instead.
they pretty much removed the skill floor so anyone can win, on that same note they also significantly dropped the skill ceiling. its impossible to actually be better than someone.
I appreciate your honesty. This is my first tekken I've taken seriously after all, but it is also once my most terrible performances, but I prefer to show my worst and best to be transparent :)
I do think the game is extremely mashy and aggressive, I did play Tekken 7 off and on, and the differences in players is wild.
Again, thanks for your input, cheers!
I meant no offense bro. Keep grinding. It's just something I noticed within hours of playing. I'm tryna teach my homeboy, a soul Calibur veteran, how to play Tekken 8. Within like 3 hours me and him are literally going back and forth. Granted he is a fgc pro, but that's not the point, dude had ZERO Tekken experience!!! This game is definitely a meme if we comparing it to the actual Tekken series.
@@killa6tv931 no prob! I don't take any brother. The game is definitely different from the others, but yeah it is quite literally the most chaotic mashy game I've played. But it's one of those games that man, when u hit that one combo you've practiced it feels good. Over time, I'm sure the game will progress and separate itself from the series because it is genuinely fun!
holy cope.
You just arent good at the game yet. Red ranks in 8 is pretty much a vanquisher in 7.
I just got my ass handed to me by a bryan player cuz they dont go outside or take showers. I left the match while chucking my glass cup across the room. Smh.
@@friendlyfire2374 lmao I feel you brother. Lotta these mfs hit their forehead on their controller n that's that.
Ngl you sound like Mordekai
That's actually hilarious
Bro you a hworang player how you even complaining with your infinite kicks en plus frames😂 how many plus frames do you need!!!!
@@TheInfiniteKamui sounds like the average Tekken player over here lol. Hating on hwo for mix when most ppl can just spam electric. Just about all of moves can be crouched, and can get interrupted.
@@Echilon_30i main steve and everything gets crouched too you just have to adjust bro.
You can't run the same shit expecting them to just not duck and not punish you.
Also you do know its a 3D fighting game? Sidestepling really helps alot.Hwoarang has insanely good tools to pressure also keep out moves, he can launch punish (something steve can't do) and he has a full throw game.
@@tristanherb49 yeah I've adjusted a lot from this vid, my more recent Tekken vids I do change up my play style. Check one out n let me know if I should further adjust I'd be interested in what ya think. Cheers
Game is way too aggressive, lotta hold this/cant do anything plus too many forced guessing situations..make for a messy Tekken. They just need to put the korean backdash back how it was cause we got all this bs, and u won't "git gud" to stop some of this stuff cause its just....Broken......OH! And the TRACKING,Maan they remedial-fied Tekken as LowTierGod like to say.
@@damhatrebloc low tier god is wild though. That dude is a huge L lol. Rage quits and thinks he's better than everyone
@@damhatrebloc homie is like yeah? Fight me in Tekken 7! I'll beat you over there! Oh yeah? Fight me in Tekken 6, I'll mop the floor with you!
This franchise is just trash… People talk about how oh this is ultimate fighting… It’s not… This is nothing more than ultimate button mashing… This is a game for the people who suck at traditional FGC games because this game breaks all the rules of traditional fighting games… Bullshit balance Boring to watch gameplay this is just a whack franchise… For me it died after 4
Yeah, it really is heavily button mashy, but they are releasing a new patch out in "hopes" to make the game less aggression rewarding so we'll see how it goes. This is the first tekken I actually sat down and said i'm going to learn a character, so the challenge of players in this game have made me keep coming back. But, the issue lies with the reward of putting your face in your controller, which is why I slowly lost interest in FighterZ, because they seemed to want to make it "more face paced" and they just made more neutral skips, less thought needed to mixup characters, etc.
@@Echilon_30 it’s crazy because one of the issues I’ve had with every single Tekken that makes it feel slow and sluggish to me when it comes to navigating… Its your back walk speed… in no other game do these people take such tippy tap steps to get backwards out of danger… It makes it feel very sluggish and slow so instead of just fixing navigation speed they figure make it fast paced by keep everything in your face high reward ratios and three different ways to armor up lol it’s fucking ridiculous
@@CharlieBangem Yeah that's why I've been learning wave dashing, because you can back dash much faster using the same thing. There is a lot of insane armor in this game. You should watch PhiDX, he does a lot of videos on fundamentals and ways to counter all the bs in this game. It's helped me A LOT.
You just arent good at the game yet and thats ok.
skill issue
he's spittin' your honor
Bro no matter how much you stay in the lab it's still hard to win😢
This is true, but! On my last stream, I persevered and made it into the purple ranks :)