The Rising Upper Hill, Nairobi: Can one work and live in this neighbourhood?
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2024
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Upper Hill has changed, but is it all rosy? Can one work and live here? What does that growth mean for the city of Nairobi and Kenya's economy? Find out as Alex Chamwada takes us through the features of the upcoming 88 Nairobi Condominiums - To become the tallest high end residential building in Sub-Saharan Africa.
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From Tanzania, i can't compare. i like Kenya so much... Karibuni Tanzania
Karibu Kenya dadangu!
karibu kenya
Hello Lydia. Shad Mcgregor
Thank u sis
Napenda Tz
As Kenyans we are also very good at constructive criticism and then absolutely good at just criticism ! If only we had more people working to find solutions than just finding fault with others contributions..the best place to start is " what am I doing to change what I want to see change"?
one of the few wise comments around the comment section...Kenyans have trained themselves to believe that everything good we see must be stolen
Finally the only wise comment
Absolutely.
this is very true we fall short in recognizing our accomplishments.
Very true!
Kenya is growing the only think we can do is to stop corruption in Kenya . Our land is blessed
I doubt if it is growing, yes there is infrastructure growth but not when it comes to the people. There is no rise of middle class kenyans. People in Kenya are suffering despite of all this gdp growth and infrastructure.
@@Diasporamedia23 purpose of government is to facilitate economic growth, and that's how success and good living standards automatically follows!
@@mentuhotepii2641 Voila beautifully said there can be no real growth without goverment facilitation. Economists do hammer this point across but no one seems to get it. Individual success is still individual but the commuinty as whole will thrive if goverment does the job it's suppossed to just look at singapore a good example...
@@westmax8491 many people in slums still don't know what to do with themselves 😭
@@njndox7252 is that a justification to not focus on what is needed for them? Typical classist
Love From Southern Cameroons ,,this is Amazing Africa
there's cameroon..nothing like southern cameroun
We love you too.
@n cw Why not allow for both French and English even here in Kenya it's English and Swahili it's not one. Or what am
I missing.
@@tonymerc4173 The politics behind it. We enjoy our nation as it is.
It's happiness to see your country growing like this,much love kenya I miss home🇰🇪
high rises are not developments.scandinavian cities have not many tall buildings,yet they have highest human development index,best education,best jobs,best medical services,highest quality of life you can get.
@@calvoh9715 True.. The true asset isn't the infrastructure. The true asset is investing in people. Hapo Jubilee iliuma nje.
@@calvoh9715 True but they are very poor socially especially Norwegians.
@@jnn1715 and racist
@@calvoh9715 you wanna compare Scandinavian population density with africa???
The problem is very narrow roads there.
I wish someone builds a city in the parts or Wajir or Garissa.
Nairobi is overrated. There are plenty of locations in Kenya that could host a liveable city
@@aaronoluoch4510
I mean they could have built roads like kenyatta Avenue, moi avenue, Tom mboya Street and harambee avenue and not like those juakali roads we see in upper hill without pavements and architectural finishing
Good i dear but those people of that region are for them selves from you yes from them zero
Been thinking and wish for this conversation to happen with our country planners! Don't know why we should concentrate everything in one place, i.e. Nairobi. A North Eastern city would be a good bet. That would rapidly expand, and develop anything in between that route.
Roney Ngala Lodwar in Turkana is rising
Jonathan Jackson is sooo soooo intelligent... He is success itself.. You can note this from his tone of speech
This is the Best content in Kenya today in 2020. I love how your research is spot on.
*Make it more beautiful with flowers on the side of the roads, pull a lake in the middle, put benches where we can relax our stress!*
Where is that space gonna come from considering Kenyans are literally building right next to the road.
All that shall come once the roads are complete I'm hoping.
Flowers zinamake street ugly trees and parks are much better
i was living in Nairobi club in 1998 and it was barren land.We would run and walk around,but after the Bomb blast in Nairobi in 1998,people and companies wanted out of town,and buildings started happening in Upperhil.The bomb blast was a blessing in disguise to the city
In the west, this is constantly Urban Sprawl and is frowned upon. This is how all the farmland in Central is getting eaten up by demand for housing and offices.
@@catherinenyoro3953 Tena Kenya ikiisha ju ya njaa watateta
Refreshing story from Upper Hill, Nairobi. I just love it
Nairobi Sky line is rocking Africa is the future no doubt 🙌
Thank you . I love Kenya. My country . I will never let you down
Oh wow... Just got great inspiration for my new house! Thank you!
Wow this is amazing, good job
make it pedestrian friendly. get rid of the walls
YES!!!
I schooled in Upperhill school in the mid 90's and we used to "kriss kross" Upperhill area when it was like a forest......... In fact while walking to town we would pass through where the current British high commission is built now....... and it was a thick forest with water streams and the occasional monkeys...........On the Other hand, .while Walking to Kenyatta Hospital,.... we would only see old houses with old gates & big compounds........." Shelter Afrique"...... Building was among the first buildings in the area and it was opened by President Moi & i remember we were pulled out of class to go and welcome him.......hahaha ....seems like yesterday........But i am happy for the drastic developments
Best project I've seen so far, I hope I get the money to buy the two bedroom apartment
loved it as well. seen cascadia?
May God hear your prayer. I admire them too. They are so beautiful!
Quite informative and inspiring. Thank you Chamwada and Team.
I once lived along Mara Rd in Upper Hill in the 1990s. Matumbatu, Public Service Club, Nairobi Club and Railway Club were my favorite hangouts. I'm coming back to buy a two bedroom apartment so that I scan the city from a vantage point.
Sir would you be interested in a business partnership? Am in diaspora and thinking of opening a unique business,something am doing currently with my employer
@@mwanafalsafa3613me
@@georgeflow2462 where you located?
@@mwanafalsafa3613 kilimani
Amazing content. Keep it up.
Chamwada your content is excelent! Keep up bro!
Thank you chamwanda for the nice report
Thanks Chams Media for this indepth info
Present Chamwanda giving us the best Informations Kudos Guys!
Kenya have perculiar behaviours are good in criticizing everything if it was Kigali or Dar johnsberg the could cherish, when it happens to their country they don't like it. The say everything and if you ask a Kenya where do you want to go vacation the say Dubai to see the tall sky crippers and then term it as development.
I agree with you except for the dubai part I would pick europe say Paris city of love or milan check out all the design cloths and jewellery I can afford, or Germany with all the modern and sophisticated skyscrapers now.
@@tonymerc4173 it can happen to have those jewelry fashion here in Kenya Africa, these are franchise business and can have outlets every where including kenya Africa, Britaim 2019 was chosen by world Architectural association as one of the best top ten architectural design world wide it can happen to have those modern design here in Africa or better. Exotjica sky cripper is being build in watamu by an Italian tycoon one of kind in Africa with experts comming from all over the world to make it happen. He have decided to call Kenya home he could have build in Milan .
@@pinchesmbuche4354 Don't get me wrong I totally agree with you it's amazing what's happening in Upper Hill it's just phenomenal my aversion to Dubai is because to me it's just not my ideal Vacation spot they only place I would go in the Middle East is only Israel, otherwise I just prefer Europe really and you're right the fashion houses are franchises but sadly they are not yet here in Kenya so it's a bonus to go to Europe for me. Didn't know about Britam it's news to me that's amazing they should do coverage about it, such an achievement deserves to be trumpeted for all to hear Lol.
@@tonymerc4173 true
Find time and spend it in Kigali, Dar or Jo'burg for more than 1 week, and spend it checking things out
Very good Lordship! Build more like this to change Nairobi.
Amazing report
Incredible report
Africa rising glad to see ! 😀
Keep up Chams...Upper Hill is the next cbd indeed
Amazing!!!!!
Great Reporting bwana chams
I totally concur with the developer ...at 18:53 that's a keen attention to a very small details
Good inspiring content.
good job guys.
Sharruup..
upperhill slowly getting in shape
no compromise on quality. ..good job
Good reporting as always! I question if this sort of development is the right choice and direction the city should be moving in. After your piece on sanitation in Nairobi it seems like this is moving forward in some areas without developing solutions for existing problems in the city. Also these housing developments will drive up cost of living in Nairobi and I hope that companies in the city are able to provide a living wage to its inhabitants.
I agree, fix sanitation problems and roads first.
I like the chairman...Simple and smart
7 million with all those features and furniture? That's a fair price. I want to think the *service charge* is not included, which might be like a full apartment's rent per month, in your own house, right?
The apartment is of an international level, New York style. However, they should have showed us the Studio rooms as well.
I grew up in this neighborhood in the 70s and 80s, there were no tall buildings only residential houses and no apartments either!
same here.....we used to go bird trapping as kids, adventure bush walks. Only two or three main landmarks (Kenyatta one side, Upperhill school in the middle, Nyayo/Uhuru Park to the Southern side). Lately everytime I go there I get lost.
i love nairobi
well representation mr. mugambi
"The Lordship" all kinds of bells ringing in my head
colonia...
Haha saa ya kutii imefika
Perfect
Can't we have cities developed other than Nairobi..It's congested...sewer system is a disaster...
Donna Joe they are developing too but all nations have that big city and in Kenya that city happens to be Nairobi
@@tsunamimaica4223 where in Kenya are they developing a well planned city?
@@tsunamimaica4223 We can have several big well planned cities...Nairobi is too much...especially Eastlands
@@guroswes5791 nowhere
@@BensonNyasae maendeleo yetu haina mipango hataa!!
Very good architect .
You should also do a follow up on pinnacle towers
Also don't forget Montave too
Goods news
I have learnt something new today... The higher you go price increases I knew twaz, the higher you go the price decreases.
U funny brotha! 😂😂😂
Better ventilation, air flow, sunlight, great views, less pollution from dust/noise
It's due to security reasons, the higher you go the more secure you are from burglar
@@aliabdi8347 i beg to differ...your next door neighbor on the top floor could be the thief
I left Nairobi for America back in 2005 and I see the 'luxury living' housing sector has improved. That apartment looks like the ones we have over here... Small but expensive if you really have to live in the fancy neighborhoods. Lol
I'm more curious about the roads, that Nairobi traffic used to be a nightmare back in the day.
Advertisement on another level!
thought so too. LoL
Informacial
wow good contents
Good job
Very nice
Good safe neighbhouhood,plaued games n climbed trees n fences at matumbato estate
much better than buying an apartment abroad i think
There is no justification for saying 24 mirrions for an apartment built in '07. In a 3rd world country like Kenya? Where the economy is dominated by drug dealing and money laundering. Where security is non existent and the gap between the rich and poor is so vast? Why would one invest that much in Kenya?
@@catherinenyoro3953 typical house nigga arguments...go buy an apartment at trump tower, your investment will be safe and secure
@@kamamijoseph 😂 😂
@@kamamijoseph 😂😂😂😂
@@catherinenyoro3953 hater
I have nothing against all these real estate development...but in reality most of these offices and malls are empty. There is no real economic growth in this country.. government infrastructure spending (borrowed from China) is keeping our economy on the move..the middle class is so thin. I wish we had investors investing in manufacturing industries etc that would spur real economic growth. The service industry relies on a middle class with enough disposable income.
Yeah, Kenya's growth's mainly in the service industry. I think it's been moving really fast. And every day I hear new upper-middle - high income gated communities being advertised while still in their conceptual stage. But I still think there's opportunity in the service industry since despite the problems in the country, there is a greater number of wealthier people, in the country than 10-20 years ago, in my humble opinion. But I also keep telling close friends the real opportunity is in enabling manufacturing in Kenya which is growing dismally and the service industry cannot grow forever, eventually it'll hit saturation point and prices will fall, especially with every developer focussing on high-upper middle income sector. As an engineer, I can tell you that most engineering jobs nowadays tend to be sales engineer jobs here, just glorified sales people who know enough to do a bit of maintainence of pre-built foreign machinery, electronics, telecoms stuff, etc, but very little to advance their fields. And the problem is eventually, there'll be no more jobs for engineers aside from entrepreneurship.
@@generalflaviusaetius1997 yeah it's a bubble that may or may not burst. The question we should be ask ourselves is it sustainable..? My answer is no... There is already an oversupply, malls are having to cut their rent rates and even more springing up. The market is near saturation. A service economy needs an internal consumer class which is small here. No advanced nation skipped the industrial phase.
@logan Smith you read my mind, manufacturing that's export worthy especially to other African countries is what will bring real economic growth and jobs for the masses, raising up the middle class.
Spot on Logan.
@@generalflaviusaetius1997 Yeah you're mostly correct remember we have only 300,000 kenyans earning atleast ksh250,000 and above 2015 figures.
Kenya is really growing
Bigger than Kenya
Kenyatta hospital is sooo overrated. I hope now someone starts building hospitals like that all over the nation. Especially Specializing on cancer and other terminal deseases, Now that’s development to me.
How is it overrated? Had a pretty lousy reputation from what I heard.
This whole "documentary" is one very clever advert for that high rise building😁
I noted that too
Yes this is sponsored and has a sponsor board. We have have had several such sponsored content on this series
@@ChamsMediaTV yeah I agree with you - but the building is the sponsor of the content. Advertorial stuff
@@richardmadrian5695 Yes! It is called product placement. Like Watch Connecting Kenyans that we did with Communications Authority of Kenya. Equity Sponsors daring abroad, we feature their products and clients. Ecobank Sponsored us and we had product placement. We have more new such programmes coming up
You make it sound like it's a crime to advertise? Get a life!
How about giving our buildings African names?
Because we are owned by wazungus.
And the Chinese are buying us out.
African names from where yet they are owned by foreigners in the name of KENYAN by birth or registration! Wake up AFRICANS no one will forget their roots just like that ,they are here to benefit . India still exists with their strong roots their,the white ppl know their home in the west and are very strongly connected their ,,NOW you africans with the Christianity they brought you are bout to the preach to me here! #WAKEUPAFRICANS!!
Our own names are Peter, Alfred, Mary etc. We are confused people.
Piman Mann Jaques lets start with your names first 😅😀
Is Piman Mann Jaques an African name?
so they have registered I.P on the view....very smart people
Good stuff but what's going on with pinnacle tower?
IT STOPPED ON BASEMENT, COURT CASE ON THE LAND, I DOUBT IT WILL EVER TAKE OFF
@@DennisTheNational please share the source of this information?
23 million for a single unit and the prices increase as you go up!
that excludes the minimum shs 20,000 per month service charges. better buy a piece of landand build your palace and enjoy life away from crowded apartment blocks
@@gemkachar that is true
Build it I’ll come to buy one .. congratulations you are doing a great job 😊😊
What i don't like about upperhill is with so much money why cant they came together n make good pavements n have their own daily street cleaners and lead by example as in developed nations with coordination they can bring trum around their cbd
Felix Aloo it’s called social responsibility, which is alien to Kenyan corporations!!! Hata sewer system hakuna and they are building homes worth billions!!!
I wish their was a bi law for both westlands and upperhill to have development policies that make all cooperate responsible for their locations
Felix Aloo all the same, it’s hard to force a tax paying company to engage in work supposed to be done by government . Responsible companies do it for good of society. But also government can give incentives like tax breaks for companies that a socially engaged. But I agree with you.
Unless you're not watching the video, , upperhill was meant for a residential area, its now they are making it more commercial by expanding the roads and creating parks
People are seriously into investments but some of us are suffering without employment
steve lumumba :,there is work for everyone on the planet. If you look at your surroundings carefully you will find something to do and earn a living.
Francis Atwoli, The best in Africa
Good quality residential is available in upper hill. What is lacking is high end residential housing.
It looks like high maintenance, if I break my bed who fixes it or do you replace? If you have children they tend to run into things a lot. What about the furniture in the event I need an upp grade?
You have to think everything not only building some skyscrapers everything must be there water sewage transportation Roads, one thing Nairobi is lacking is good modern transportation but instead, they are just building only some big offices no good affordable housing for so many people no good transportation you can see people walking kilometers and kilometers come on we are almost 2020 still no city trams no underground metro they should get rid of these old ugly fashioned matatus old cars old polluted lorries in the city they should build trams underground metros for transportation then Nairobi will be in good position but now they are still far to reach top 10 but they are trying very much and doing there best. nice malls.
shujaa kijana lol I feel your pain but this developers are private and not government. Everything you mentioned is true but should be channeled to the government
The problem started back then when nairobi was designed. Whoever did the planning failed to project future expansion, failed to built horizontal infrastructure and thats makes it difficult for developers right now
My kids or grand kids will ask me one day dad or grandpa why didn’t you invest in this stuff when the prices were affordable 😂😂😂
Manze...ivyo ndivyo we used to ask our parents..amazing how tym fly
😂😂😂 buda ata hapa sahii si affordable so in the next 30 yrs nairobi will no longer be a home for common mwanainchi wacha tubaki mashinani tu.
Robba Hope I swear i used to ask my grandma a lot why they didn’t acquire more land, all she said was like we thought we had enough, and your grandpa didn’t want more😂
ALWATAN ALFIZE bro you don’t have to invest in Nairobi, myself I’m buying properties outside Nairobi
Please do westlands
westlands is a dump,just like upperhill and the rest of Nairobi.All these residentials have no parks,no walkways,no cycling lanes,no rail system.
But who said development is high rises - the western ideologies though!🙄
Economic use of land
Yet we don't even have medicine and equipment in public hospitals. These tall modern buildings are fine, but can we also have basic needs met, we pay so much tax but no services are rendered!
I was just about to say that to one comment, and I realized almost all comments thought this was development. I had to withhold my opinion. Glad to see someone else thinks alike.
@@bellaolum9515 the role of equipping public hospitals is solely that of the Government, the kind of development we are talking about here is private sector led
High rises are not a problem the problems are:
1. They are not integrated into a cohesive zoning plan
2. High density urban housing requires a generous "urban fabric" - parks, bike lanes, light rail, mass transit buses or trains, foot paths etc.
3. Ideally they should be close to where people can walk, cycle or take a short bus ride.
Parks are important, children and adults need relief from concrete enclosed spaces during weekends or free days. Parks with play areas and lots of open green space.
What happened to the construction of Pinnacle Towers in upper hill...was it supposed to be the tallest building in Africa?
I think it's still ongoing
Njeri M stalled. The court stopped it.
George Nyali it has resumed construction...
@@sketch9062 Great. I've witnessed some activities on the cite. Looking forward.
23M for a 2 bed apartment and then you probably cough up some 30k for service charge.
There are some people who can easily afford that, and may choose to put it up for Airbnb and the sort. It would really sell well as an airbnb, location, finishing, security and near most amenities.
THE LOADSHIP am just requesting for a care taker job of the building
No caretakers in such buildings only property management companies
Hope you do have a company
hahahahahah
Man home learning brought me here
We as many are not impressed! A small city with only 4.5m people cannot function effectively, due to negative politics and rampant corrupt behaviours of the shareholders.These are affecting the initial plan of the Nairobi metropolis.Why should all headquarters,industries,govt agencies be placed in one Nairobi? Nowonder everyone hopes for an opportunity in Nairobi hence unwarranted pressure on everything.We should think of a new capital city...plan for expansive Konza tech city or city of Isiolo, instead of the so called Nairobi expansion. Infact it is interefering with our green enviroment and the entire ecosystem.
very interesting about CHAMS media I love the job they do
Yes my first education staryed t uphill nurseryschool
The main problem in Kenya is land issues accompanied by corruption. You can be approved by the government to buy/lease a land, set up a massive investment then upon completion, the same government will come to you and query how you acquired public land and so on so forth...later to be brought down ie, for building on riverbank, road reserve, school property....
Great advertisement Chamwada, maybe you might get an apartment at eighty eight!
Good work. Next do a follow up on Westlands will you?
Yes we will
@@Chwamwada Thank you and keep up the good work.
@Chams media tv Is the pinnacle towers project still on?
How's no one commented here 19:06 barely y'all didn't watch
88 is a good idea but alot of caution must be taken by interested buyers l wouldn't recommend off plan buying from a company registered in Czech Republic by a person with an English accent and was born in Kenya
Overblown prices.... they just don't make sense
The answer is NO unless you're making a couple millions per month or you are a wealthy foreigner. I'm sure this would be proven if he asked the owner of the typical profile of the buyers.
Justice aluocj n herdaughter clare was our next door neigbhour,n their boy alan like my late brother,down memory lane...
There is nothing tangible to justify th price hike just speculation.
That's what has been happening in Kenyan lately.
Economies of scale
Of course with enternet expertriates who are majority can work at home
What are the on-going condominium fees after the sale price?
ISIOLO SHOULD BE BUILT AS KENYAS PLANNED CAPITAL CITY. Just like TZ have done with Dodoma, and Nigeria with Abuja. It is the most central point in Kenya. It has plenty of land that can be built into a well planned center of Government. it will facilitate the opening up of the vast wealth of Northern and north Eastern Kenya. It will give us a chance to have a Capital city that is not run by cartels and that is well controlled by the central government. IT WILL GIVE US A CHANCE TO EXPERIMENT WITH GREEN TECHNOLOGIES, SOLAR ENERGY, MODERN TRANSPORT SYSTEMS ETC and lastly we can all work together to make a capital city we can be proud of...not this rubbish hole called Nairobi which has the whole country in its rotten grip, unable to ever move forward. We need to let Nairobi just be a commercial hub and let it develop as it will as a county. A shift by government would even encourage migration up north and decongest the overpopulated parts of the country including Nairobi. IT WOULD OPEN WHOLE NEW FRONTIERS FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE
Most of the land is community land..People are aware how masaai were disposed in other places..plus borana are armed to the teeth..they recently massacred somali herders who trespassed there .
The idea is good but tricky to implement.
@@koscocosco5309 but the government will buy the lands and not to take it by force.
@@alfanm.8221 which govt.. This one never resettled even the IDPs..
No vision No morality No honesty.
Talk of cut-throat competition
Other parts of Kenya should be considered for development. Nairobi is very small and congested
Only Nairobi kiambu kajiando and machakoes people sell their land to willing buyers
@@ezekielmburu3418 ii uguo ni maa but laikipia also