Thank you for addressing class in the Asian American representation narrative! The ones who are “promoted” derive from wealthy backgrounds or have corporate mainstream support! Also, the ones who are “promoted” tend to be “safe” because they don’t rock the boat and want to control the narrative. That’s why it’s important for social movements to not be controlled by those who don’t genuinely care for the issues
The ones who are promoted forget why they even made it in the first place and think they are part of the bigger group. Lisa ling made it yet she stay true to who she is and continue to stand up to injustice while the others think they are something they are not like disappointing Jeannie mai
love the Night Club analogy. I have been an art director for a global night club operation and literally, here in Toronto, asians skipped the line by doing bottle service... our representation here was to be rich. There are lots of stories that our community has and I am glad you guys are addressing them.
GOD DANG guys, you really knocked this one out of the park, you hit this topic from so many different angles, so many valid points made using varying perspectives. The delivery was perfect no oversimplification but just enough detail to get the point across then move on to the next point, this is how to have a discussion, no one point was 100% right or wrong both sides of each viewpoint had valid concerns. Great job and did not shy away from discussing conflicting opinions of asian americans and homeland asians.
I really hope the entertainment industry starts using ALL types of Asians in more roles. Like people from Uzbekistan, Sri Lanka, Phillipines, Nepal, etc.
funny how phillipines didnt want to be considered asians when being asian was uncool. but now youre on the asian train when were rising again. stick to your pacific islander bullshit. dont just hop back on when things are going good for us again
You guys are Asian representation to me because you were the first group of Asians I saw in any form of media a long time ago and what you said in your videos were well informed, usually accurate takes on anything related to Asian matters. You count to me Fung Bros!
I think one thing is, we're still very new to this country. I can't speak for all Asians, but for Hmong people it's been like 40-50 years only, I mean that sounds like a long time, but really it's not. My parents didn't get here until late 70's, I was born in the 90's. Our parents never cared for representation, they just wanted us to be good at school, get a good job, & make money, that was their "American Dream." As 2nd generation kids, we mostly followed what our parents wanted. They didn't care for us to be athletes, actors, singers or anything, they wanted us to be Doctors, Lawyers, etc. My Mom used to trip at me for playing sports lol. Also, most of us grew up poor & in the hood, so some become whatever the hood is, whether it's gangs, violence, drugs. It's like you guys said, the Rich get a head start at basically anything in life. I think we know a lot more now than our parents did while raising us, & we're more open-minded than they were, so our generation's children will be chasing those other dreams that will bring representation, such as being an athlete, actor, singer, etc. It just takes the support from the parents. Look at Sunisa Lee for example, so much support from her parents, & now she's super famous. The 2nd generation Asian Americans basically took the hit, in order for the next wave of children to be able to become those things, it was a process. I'm not saying being a Doctor or a Lawyer is bad or anything, it's amazing as well, but it just won't bring the Asian Representation that we want in the media. Growing up, I always hated feeling like the only way for Asians to get big was through UA-cam & it was capped off at that. All the Asian American Representation we have are basically all on UA-cam, from singers, actors, rappers, etc. To me, it felt like America wouldn't give Asians a chance, so their only way was through YT. Yao Ming & Manny Pacquiao were cool, but they couldn't relate to us since they weren't Asian American. I'm very glad YT helped though. Richie Le is one of my faves, shout outs to you guys for bringing him up. He now has his own clothing line, & it's not only Asians who are buying his stuff. That's dope! Nelson Chan was able to go play pro ball overseas. It's been dope following many of yall. I think it's only a matter of time, maybe another 10-20 years for some better Asian American Representation. You're starting to see them be sprinkled around. Jeremy Lin for NBA, Younghoe Koo for NFL, Awkwafina for Acting, Brandun Lee for Boxing. It's just going to keep growing with the 3rd & 4th generation of Asian Americans.
My criticism is how much Asian American representation depicts upper class and upper middle class Asian Americans. I get that the majority of Asians in America are part of the upper middle class but I as a working class Asian American who grew up poor can't relate to their stories the same way. I hate how American media treats us like we don't exist. I grew up in multiracial working class neighbourhoods too not upper middle class all Asian neighbourhoods which makes my experience even more different from most Asian Americans. I've never known a world without diversity or poverty.
also an asian that grew up low income & lower middle class (poor) and i hate that ppl assume all asians are rich. where i live especially a lot of asians are middle class or working class just trying to survive and get by. ive rarely met any rich asians. rich to us is like upper middle class. the stereotype barely holds a candle to reality imo. i'm 2nd gen viet-american, and i live on the west coast for context. not that there aren't rich asians, but where i live at least there isn't very many and they don't make up the majority. ive always grown up around this environment, where most of the ppl had to give up their dreams just to have enough to eat. or to feed their family / kids and it's not very realistic to include everyone in the stereotype
I love the insight in this video--oft missed by mainstream media but definitely important to voice. I just got a copy of "Rise" by Jeff Yang, Phil Yu and Philip Wang. GREAT book about Asian Am pop culture. Though it's thorough, the conversations from Asian Am voices like yours, in videos like this are ABSOLUTELY necessary for the Asian Am community. Thank you for doing your part!
Front of the line at a nightclub energy - Lana Condor. After To All the Boys I Loved Before was criticized for having no Asian males as her love interest, which perpetuates a long running pattern in Hollywood where Asian women are constantly paired up with non-asians (mostly white men), while Asian men are relegated to invisible status, Lana Condor ignores this long running pattern and chalks up all the criticisms as just “tribalism”. She simplifies all the criticisms as just people angry at seeing interracial couples, which conveniently ignores the representation issues faced by Asian men (the ones further back in the line).
@@TheBoyNextWorld1996 she should still have a tiny ounce of awareness of how Asian men have been treated in American movies and American tv throughout history, and understand that some of the criticisms towards “To All The Boys…” is with that context in mind. Increasingly even non-asians are now acknowledging how Asian men have been treated in western media. To not be all that knowledgeable of that context can maybe be excused, because she grew up in a very white environment. But for her to go one step further and write off the criticisms as just tribalism or just people who don’t like seeing interracial couples seems like WILLFUL ignorance coming from her.
@@TheBoyNextWorld1996 she’s got to be extremely clueless if she consumes media and works in media, and doesn’t notice the difference between how white men are portrayed vs how Asian men are portrayed. Seems more like willful ignorance
I always enjoy your videos and the insight - whether it's food or fashion. You both carry yourselves so well and this is so essential in moving forward for Asian Americans. I like that you both stress being connected to reality is so important. Hollywood =/= what's happening on the streets. Thank you for reminding us to do the work. Much love!
I love that you cover so much of the nuanced issues that we face. There’s no one right answer on how we get there but the more voices we have the better!
I’d like to see Asian actors getting jobs that don’t put their ethnicity front and center to play a stereotype. Kung fu, broken English, type A, over achieving family dynamic, etc have all been overdone and does little for diversity.
Wow this was phenomenal discussion about the issue. You guys have some of the best dialogue and videos, you really do. I agree with the points you guys made.
Asians aren’t as vocal and rambunctious to get our ideas out there compared to other PoC but I believe if the desire and want is there, us Asians have always found a way to succeed. If only 2 or 3 Asians wants to be into mainstream media, no point really shouting at the top of the lungs to get Asian representation when no one is really signing up.
Exactly! Some are just content being in the background but those who are in the background should at least be supportive who are putting themselves out there
True. Black ppl shit their pants when ppl style their hair a certain way 😂😂 yet somehow it isn’t racist they eat Asian food that they made fun of for the past 2 decades
Because when Asians speak up people gaslight the fuck out of you. When asian people do anything people feel the need to jump in your face, other asian people looking for validation from other people the most.
I am a fil/am who got my chops by moving back to the philippines then returning to america with mad skills. Cool to see you understand my type as well.
Our community may be in a tough situation but it gives our community the grit and will to succeed. We haven't made it so we are not complacent or too comfortable. There is a lot more work to be done but this pandemic has brought the Asian community closer together and more aware of the problems that exists. Asians in American media and pop culture has been steadily increasing and we are still progressing.
My opinion based on my Sociology and Poli-Sci background. I think as I am Asian (from Burma), we have to start from the grass-root level because I observed that being "Asian" or the word "Asian" used to have a flavor of inferiority or being used with an inferior connotation. It was until past 5 years at least. It is probably due to a generational trauma. I admit I felt a little ashamed to say that I am Asian for no clear reason other my own self-inferiority. However, I am now in my late 30s and have learned to be proud of who I am, I am a lot of more comfortable and proud to say "I am Asian!". A lot of times, it is how the media and/or Hollywood has been portraying Asians in the mainstream medias in addition to the racist ideology that the world has been polluted by corrupted people. Irish, Italians, Jews, blacks and Latinos had gone through this. It is a process. We must do it ourselves. Shout out to all my Asians!
Hey Fung Bros - seriously good video! Your final point is the most important one! I’ve been watching your stuff for years, since some of your very early videos. Well done guys! Keep it up. I’m wowed by your enthusiasm, quality content and great presentation
Thanks for making this episode. It also just reminds me that New York Times recently publicized a piece saying Asian Americans are over represented in figure skating. A main stream media with such a status wouldn’t even dare to say African Americans are over represented in NBA or NFL. Instead they are now criticizing that there are not enough black coaches in NFL. Sometimes I feel like diversity or people of color only mean black people in America. No hate toward black people. I think their tactics in terms of crating a narrative in the society and fighting for their rights have succeeded and Asians need to learn from them and not just play by the book.
I’m south Asian and I get pushback from other Indians about my more conservative political views but they haven’t been through what I have. The point at the end about gaslighting Asians sums that sentiment up beautifully
I’m an Asian American male, and I was so happy to see Crazy Rich Asians. But then when I found out that the entire female casts were married to white men, I felt disgusted. I no longer see the movie as an accomplishment men for us, but rather just pretty Asian girls who gave in to their white fever and got a movie out of it.
What? Lol I mean don't get me wrong some Asian women who only date white dudes, so I understand why you probably think they might be two faced. However, you can't always pick who you fall for though- So judging them by their spouse's race is kind of crappy
@@SBaguettes asian's complaint about no asian reprsentation and then the woman don't like asian men, they prefer white men, they clearly chose white men
@@Brucelee89896 It could be that they also dated Asian man but the guys they ended up with were a better fit for them personally 🤷🏻♀️ I understand what you're saying but you can't limit their love life for representation. (Ps: there are plenty of Asian guys that only date white women too, it be like that sometimes)
@@SBaguettes But why is it that most Asian women choose white guys? But when you look at other ethnic females (Latinas, Middle Easterners, etc), they typically go for their own men?
This is so true, similar issues with desis/South Asians. It’s funny bc growing up I didn’t really actively think about media representation or care about it bc it was not affecting my day to day, but then once I went into college it’s like representation was *the thing* to care about; not saying either is right or wrong it’s just we all have different interests and priorities based on our lived experience
Another great video! Totally agree with the club example. Everyone is getting in but it will take time. I say the same thing with my podcast that things take time. Its not all going to come in at once and taking the necessary steps are vital for growth.
underground no no you guys def above ground and def representing the asian american/culture and doing a dam good job boys 👊keep up the great content, theres many of us thats routing for you on the sidelines that you represent 👍
Asian character with stereotypical Asian parents but he/she struggles in school and only gets a couple As and an even split of Bs and Cs. Is down to earth and not shooting for college but rather a blue collar trade school. In other words, to be seen as the average American person with no more and no less than anyone else and is multi-faceted as he/she is discovering themselves through their journey through life. That's what I want to see on the big screen.
Two of my favorite UA-camrs giving a multidimensional (including class/geography-based) analysis of something I seek to learn more about. We have no choice but to stan.
10:06 Very interesting view point. I know in my community ( African American) we have a problem African/Caribbean actors taking roles away from African Americans particularly roles portraying African American's such as in biopics.
I don't think African-Americans are losing African American roles to African/Caribbean actors. Its more African British actors that are taking up all the African American roles.
@@devilrider39000000 Facts. There’s a simmering debate about how they see themselves and the work they get compared to African American actors. I don’t remember her name but they had a British actress play Harriet Tubman over an African American actress.
I HATE it in movies frequently show white dudes beating/killing a bunch of Asians with martial arts >:( An example of that would be a white person who adopts a ninja/samurai persona while slaughtering a bunch of Yakuza
Re: point 4, similar to the NBA analogy, I think it's important that game recognize game and people in North America don't view themselves as so important, since it really takes seeing the world to see how massive the scale for things really is internationally. North America really ain't that impressive.
i think if there were an agency like American Idol where they set up auditions in Asian communities across the US seeking only Asian Americans (AA), they will find many talented and attractive AA actors. But since there isn't, we get the usual small pool of AA actors that Hollywood will instantly go to for convenience. When I watch an AA movie, sometimes I'll question the choice of casts and feel a bit disappointed when the casting director isn't Asian. I'm not saying Asian casting directors are better, I just feel that they have a better network on the Asian community that they can introduce to fit the ideal role and bring new talented faces to the big screen.
I just watch Asian programming from Asia. A lot of it is pretty great. No need to scrape and beg for acceptance and access in the West, when there's excellent programming and production in Asia itself. Asian talent from the West is flocking to Asia and making it big.
Thats not the point, we want mainstream acceptance because its our own country whose media portrayal shapes our daily life experience here in america whether you accept it or not, any asian who left their safety bubble of the bay area CA or other coastal cities knows what we are talking about and why media representation is an issue.
You know what the media should focus on? The Asian American experience. Instead of glamourizing Asians we should keep it real and show the struggles we face, like immigration, language barriers, poverty, racism, and what life in an Asian American family looks like. Also, let us diversify the Asian community we see in the media. We usually see east Asia and never really central Asia, southeast Asia, north Asia, south Asia, and western Asia.
Pretty excited for The Sympathizer as a different story to be told for Vietnamese people even though it is a war time story. I hope it opens the door for more relatable Vietnamese story post war in the future. I have been irritated by shows like 'House of Ho' as Vietnamese representation and the audacity that family has to claim that they opened the door for The Sympathizer to be made 🙄
Great video essay as always with you guys, but can you do a discussion on the pressures of asian representation in entertainment because of the suicides of kpop idols and actors in the last couple of years or the consequences Constacne Wu was dealt after her twit about returning to FOTB?
I have a question how did Asian become the term to describe a race? It’s a continent and you have India and countries with similar looking people to them along with Russia. So I’m just curious how China and similar looking features took upon the bane Asian as the racial description?
Found the video kinda all over the place. I could mostly follow since I know this topic but to a non-Asian, this is disorganized and would benefit from a clear argument and organization. I'm kinda surprised it's framed as educational... There's potential for it to be but needs fact checking, sources, real organization, and not just two bros chit chatting (which is fine) but disconnected from the goal if this is to reach and educate a wide audience. Clearly though I think your hearts are in the right place and appreciate even the slightest mention of class differences in the community; it's true that most neglect that entirely.
like the point where you group steven yeun and Daniel dae Kim as a non-american asian american is kinda bizarre. 1.5 gen kids should not be grouped w the ronny chiengs just because they're born outside america. one example of a weird point to argue. Like, yeun went to Kalamazoo and Kim went to Haverford, they were educated in traditional American liberal arts. Citing their birthplaces and that somehow being similar to Ronny or simu is very incorrect...
i also think most people don't consume as much media as they think they do. so their complaints feel out of context. even something as banal like the recent "how i met your father" has two asian characters (viet adoptee; indian) but no one will cite that as 'representation' because it's not all asian. complaining that the entire landscape aren't shang chi's back to back is pointless when in reality it's going to be one shang chi and a bunch of other asian actors spread out. many (not all) shows have intentionally diverse casts (filipino guy on "the mayor"; filipino, hawaiian, half-japanese, and japanese characters in "superstore"); the actual writing may not be that deep, esp if they're comedies. i can also think of something like "the cleaning lady," a new network show with undocumented immigrants from the philippines/cambodia. it's a great show, watch it, but no one talks about it! the outrage for lack of asian representation sometimes feels like it comes from an emotional place, from someone who actually doesn't even watch tv! there's trendiness to calling for more as justice as a trend, but some don't even watch enough tv to notice the actual changes that do exist!
another thing, to group BTS as Asian American representation bc they're on American tv shows, again what a bizarre point to argue... Or even suggest as what people are saying in the discourse. (Again I appreciate you bringing these points up but if you see yourselves as the mediator or translator, you need to provide better context for viewers.)
I know it might not be quite comparable, but just wanted to know if Fung Bros has been following the rise of Simu Liu in the Marvel universe and now he's everywhere in media (even though he's a Canadian). Also commentary WRT Asian representation.
small independent films are cheap, but can be insanely high grade, like purple kush, or the dro: slum dog with cheap, and filming a lot of scenes and then inputting the green screen acting into it, is so cheap. i guess that’s how i’m gonna make mine, plus i know some really talented film directors that might be able to make simple cheap tactics like that work. i express my thoughts, and they end up long, i won’t comment for a while:
I remember the 2020 election and all the news media network was showing statistics among each race and who were they likely to vote for. Guess which race was left out of the bar graph? Hello, Asian-American freaking vote in election too.
have you taken in consideration that MAYBE..(I said maybe) not a lot of Asian Americans want in be in the spotlight? Their are a ton of greatly successful Asian Americans behind the scenes who are writers, producers, designers, developers, entrepreneurs, etc. you guys have been preaching this for years! You guys keep saying representation but if no one is going to the try-outs, and if a white man was chose for the role there’s not much y’all can do but to continue influence and encourage your community on things they do enjoy doing their best at! How about start new segment interviewing a day in the life of non actor/actress successful Asian Americans. You promoting them may open doors for you all!
In China, everyone knows about Daniel Wu. In effect, his name is more like a adjective, when trying to describe a man is suuuuper handsome, sexy and attractive.
I think one thing about Asian faces born and raised abroad is that, a lot of them may not even try to represent Asians in America. They are probably the ones who know more about Asian culture and they are more comfortable and confident in their own skins, and can already be successful and well- known and make a lot of impact in their home country. So for those people, making an influence in America is only a plus, not a must, as they are not trying to survive and thrive in this country. On the contrary, even American-born super star Daniel Wu failed his attempt here in the US, while he is already a successful and influential actor in Chinese Movie history. As a foreign born and raised Asian here in the states, what I have noticed is that although a lot of Asian Americans are trying to claim that they are proud of their roots and culture, they really don’t. They only do very superficial things during holidays, and if they are barely able to speak their mother tongue, how they are able to understand and appreciate the rich culture behind their ancestors. Without truly understanding and appreciating their own roots/culture/history, how can they be proud of themselves in a land whose past history is almost fully written by white people that doesn’t really represent them? I think this is something worth reflecting on for a lot of younger generations.
Your aim should not be to get into Hollywood because Hollywood is dying anyway, your aim should be to make better content and have that content go to a wider audience, making videos directed at Asian Americans is fine but it gives you a narrow pool of 5% of the USA. You become a big fish in a small pond with that mentality.
I know y’all are boys with Jeremy Lin, but thoughts of Eddie huangs opinion/perspective on Lin and his Asian representation. I know Eddie has been critical of Lin.
Hey Fung Bros. I would like to reach out to you about a speaking opportunity for non-profit organization for AAPI community event in DC. Let me know if you're up to it.
Hey there David and Andrew, I was wondering what your stance is on Eileen Gu (aka Gu Ai-Ling) who was an American born skiing athlete but ended up attending the winter Olympics for China?
Eileen Gu can pick to represent China because she goes back to China every year to visit grandma. It is more lucrative financially for her to ski under the ROC banner.
are we talking about liv miami or space miami? theirs probably automatically two spots, and unfortunately even with my comment being, i don’t see why asians can’t create their own movies, that are also americanized and has american supporting cast that aren’t asian. like harold and kumar, with doctor crazy. so basically even if it’s one club for asians, it’s going to have some at the top and the bottom. based on many different factors, but i would say everyone on that specific level audition, and who ever is best gets it, no matter if your a top actress or not. i wrote a lot of movies and anime, my rap album is dropping soon, i want to at some point make my movies but i would eliminate the factors of favoritism and just make the choices based on talent, and the look needed for the character. Iko Uwais is killin it big time, he’s not the typical chinese looking asian, but he’s amazing, so if he fit the role i would go with him, unless someone else fit the role. asians need to stop thinking in terms of being an outsider in america, and they need to stop thinking we can only do what they offer in terms of who is controlling the movie industry. the more we have movies that are most asians, but has a great mix of other races that are here, the more we will be able to merge with the rest, and settle in as one big multi dish family. so basically the flip side to white people movies, where asians are the lead, and the rest are supporting, but it’s also a asian made movie, then just market for each persons race that has a big role in the movie, to draw everyone to the movie. when people are treated as if they can do what they want. if their bad they will do that, so stop treating rich people like their something, treat everyone with respect, but don’t let them get away with wrong, and don’t participate or support it. that’s one of the main problems you guys touched on, how to get the benefits rolling. i think eliminate corruption, give everyone a chance for a profitable role, that means if you got multiple actors fitting the role, give them all a shot at a movie. don’t just give one actor all the movies. but they can support, hell i watch alot of asian movies, their are tons of top guys and women getting shuffled, all have a big role, but the actual main character roles goes to a different person. i also think expanding supporting roles and help get the lines moving and also move some people up to top roles easily, as the familiarity is there, but it doesn’t need to be, hell you could walk off the street and end up being so talented your a instant success, and profiting immensely.
Do y’all think orgs like the Gold House is doing a good job at the things you guys mentioned? Would be nice to give specific examples of people/orgs that are currently working towards better representation by starting their own thing
kinda sad u guys didnt touch on this but. asians are more then chinese korean and japanese, and unless you are one of these 3 you are not accepted. speak on this.
So here's a thing, I'm from the UK and the Asian people I know and who think of are from south Asia e.g India, Pakistan and Bangladesh rather than east Asia China, Korea and Japan etc.
Long time subscriber here. I love their sense of humour but the fung bros have always believed that ABCs are superior than fobs, (in this video, the night-club analogy) which to me just sounds like internalized racism.
You’re preaching to the choir about representation. Try being Hispanic/Latino and be part of the H club. Humble,hostile, and hormonal. You can’t even name 1 major big name actor who is Hispanic/Latino on the level of Leonardo DiCaprio,Al Pacino,Robert Deniro,Ben Affleck,Matt Damon. Even Antonio Banderas isn’t as big as them. He has shared the screen with some high profile people but never starred or had a lead role. The only way to get recognition is to be your self on screen. So if you are Asian and from a poor family,an immigrant,wealthy,etc… than make a movie about that.
BTW "Crazy Rich Asians" was kind of racist . The only Indian was a valet. That was supposed to be Singapore. There are 4 nationalities in Singapore. No Malays and or Indians / Tamils represented in the movie. So that "oversight" in truthful representation of Singapore was a complete turn off to me.
I'm Mexican American but my fiance is Japanese. I notice that the media does tend to focus on making it look like all Asians are wealthy or that all Asians come from China. With the Kpop scene though in recent years some people in America are starting to open up to Asian cultures I noticed. However, the Covid situation didn't help matters I think, and there are still a lot of people that get the Asian cultures mixed up. For example, when my fiance came to visit me in America from Japan a couple of years ago we took a trip to LA and people there seemed to know she was Japanese. However, when we drove through smaller cities, people would think automatically she's from China lol. Apparently to many Americans Kpop and Anime and the word ni hao are all combined into one large sushi roll in their mind.
Lol how is that bad, female actors especially need to hustle to strike while the iron's hot and they're in-demand. There was/is a period where Anya Taylor-Joy was in "everything" as was Elle Fanning. It's called working. The advent of streaming has made is a lot easier, and even expected, for actors to be in multiple projects at once. In Hollywood, when someone hasn't done something for around a year, it's like where are they?
@@mest5621 I mean I am not a fan of hers but how many popular Asian actresses and actors that are well known. I would say about 30 or so. Minus 1 that would be about a 4% decrease of total Asians in Hollywood. All in all there are so few Asians in Hollywood that losing one rep feels like a bigger lost. It kinda feels like they are just picking on the Asian community.
KPOP just give Asians another face besides Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan. Why is Asian male actor always have to do stunt? I never see Asian or black lead character play doctor, lawyer, or entrepreneur. It's hard not to feel bitter if you identify as American but don't get appreciated as much as the rest of Americans, especially if you are raised in America. Why nobody wants to tell stories of Asian immigrants? Not saying Asians don't get support from other communities but the lack of representation means Asians can't really feel connected to America. It creates identity crisis.
Damn Fung Bros, that was more insightful than more Ted Talks or Hollywood actor panels 😂
lol I love the comparisons people make to TedTalks like they are the greatest of all time when they suck
Its like Hollywood who keeps hiring all these british actors playing american actors. What gives?
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Thank you for addressing class in the Asian American representation narrative! The ones who are “promoted” derive from wealthy backgrounds or have corporate mainstream support! Also, the ones who are “promoted” tend to be “safe” because they don’t rock the boat and want to control the narrative. That’s why it’s important for social movements to not be controlled by those who don’t genuinely care for the issues
As a working class Asian American who grew up poor we need more of these kinds of stories depicted.
The ones who are promoted forget why they even made it in the first place and think they are part of the bigger group. Lisa ling made it yet she stay true to who she is and continue to stand up to injustice while the others think they are something they are not like disappointing Jeannie mai
Not everybody has to be a social activist though
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Hollywood is made up of mostly white guys. They’re not going to slave away making Asian American movies.
love the Night Club analogy. I have been an art director for a global night club operation and literally, here in Toronto, asians skipped the line by doing bottle service... our representation here was to be rich. There are lots of stories that our community has and I am glad you guys are addressing them.
I feel David's intensity for protecting Asians in the streets. That was perhaps the best point in a sprawling video.
GOD DANG guys, you really knocked this one out of the park, you hit this topic from so many different angles, so many valid points made using varying perspectives. The delivery was perfect no oversimplification but just enough detail to get the point across then move on to the next point, this is how to have a discussion, no one point was 100% right or wrong both sides of each viewpoint had valid concerns. Great job and did not shy away from discussing conflicting opinions of asian americans and homeland asians.
I really hope the entertainment industry starts using ALL types of Asians in more roles. Like people from Uzbekistan, Sri Lanka, Phillipines, Nepal, etc.
Yes!
Most of Asia by land mass is Russia
@@GK-op4oc well Putin is getting air time
funny how phillipines didnt want to be considered asians when being asian was uncool. but now youre on the asian train when were rising again. stick to your pacific islander bullshit. dont just hop back on when things are going good for us again
Technically South Asians are not "Asian" but they should be able to get roels absolutely
You guys are Asian representation to me because you were the first group of Asians I saw in any form of media a long time ago and what you said in your videos were well informed, usually accurate takes on anything related to Asian matters. You count to me Fung Bros!
I think one thing is, we're still very new to this country. I can't speak for all Asians, but for Hmong people it's been like 40-50 years only, I mean that sounds like a long time, but really it's not. My parents didn't get here until late 70's, I was born in the 90's. Our parents never cared for representation, they just wanted us to be good at school, get a good job, & make money, that was their "American Dream." As 2nd generation kids, we mostly followed what our parents wanted. They didn't care for us to be athletes, actors, singers or anything, they wanted us to be Doctors, Lawyers, etc. My Mom used to trip at me for playing sports lol. Also, most of us grew up poor & in the hood, so some become whatever the hood is, whether it's gangs, violence, drugs. It's like you guys said, the Rich get a head start at basically anything in life. I think we know a lot more now than our parents did while raising us, & we're more open-minded than they were, so our generation's children will be chasing those other dreams that will bring representation, such as being an athlete, actor, singer, etc. It just takes the support from the parents. Look at Sunisa Lee for example, so much support from her parents, & now she's super famous. The 2nd generation Asian Americans basically took the hit, in order for the next wave of children to be able to become those things, it was a process. I'm not saying being a Doctor or a Lawyer is bad or anything, it's amazing as well, but it just won't bring the Asian Representation that we want in the media.
Growing up, I always hated feeling like the only way for Asians to get big was through UA-cam & it was capped off at that. All the Asian American Representation we have are basically all on UA-cam, from singers, actors, rappers, etc. To me, it felt like America wouldn't give Asians a chance, so their only way was through YT. Yao Ming & Manny Pacquiao were cool, but they couldn't relate to us since they weren't Asian American. I'm very glad YT helped though. Richie Le is one of my faves, shout outs to you guys for bringing him up. He now has his own clothing line, & it's not only Asians who are buying his stuff. That's dope! Nelson Chan was able to go play pro ball overseas. It's been dope following many of yall. I think it's only a matter of time, maybe another 10-20 years for some better Asian American Representation. You're starting to see them be sprinkled around. Jeremy Lin for NBA, Younghoe Koo for NFL, Awkwafina for Acting, Brandun Lee for Boxing. It's just going to keep growing with the 3rd & 4th generation of Asian Americans.
My criticism is how much Asian American representation depicts upper class and upper middle class Asian Americans. I get that the majority of Asians in America are part of the upper middle class but I as a working class Asian American who grew up poor can't relate to their stories the same way. I hate how American media treats us like we don't exist. I grew up in multiracial working class neighbourhoods too not upper middle class all Asian neighbourhoods which makes my experience even more different from most Asian Americans. I've never known a world without diversity or poverty.
It's not about race.
Working-class people are invisible in media all the time.
Why is that anyone’s problem? What exactly would change in the world if you get media representation?
There’s a hood Asian scene emerging. Grab Torino showed poor Hmongs. Some good Asian rappers getting traction.
also an asian that grew up low income & lower middle class (poor) and i hate that ppl assume all asians are rich. where i live especially a lot of asians are middle class or working class just trying to survive and get by. ive rarely met any rich asians. rich to us is like upper middle class. the stereotype barely holds a candle to reality imo.
i'm 2nd gen viet-american, and i live on the west coast for context.
not that there aren't rich asians, but where i live at least there isn't very many and they don't make up the majority.
ive always grown up around this environment, where most of the ppl had to give up their dreams just to have enough to eat. or to feed their family / kids and it's not very realistic to include everyone in the stereotype
Poor is a mentality
I love the insight in this video--oft missed by mainstream media but definitely important to voice. I just got a copy of "Rise" by Jeff Yang, Phil Yu and Philip Wang. GREAT book about Asian Am pop culture. Though it's thorough, the conversations from Asian Am voices like yours, in videos like this are ABSOLUTELY necessary for the Asian Am community. Thank you for doing your part!
Front of the line at a nightclub energy - Lana Condor. After To All the Boys I Loved Before was criticized for having no Asian males as her love interest, which perpetuates a long running pattern in Hollywood where Asian women are constantly paired up with non-asians (mostly white men), while Asian men are relegated to invisible status, Lana Condor ignores this long running pattern and chalks up all the criticisms as just “tribalism”. She simplifies all the criticisms as just people angry at seeing interracial couples, which conveniently ignores the representation issues faced by Asian men (the ones further back in the line).
Lana is adopted, don't expect her to see things our way. She got an Asian face, i doubt much else.
She’s Asian only on the surface but she was raised by a white family so she doesn’t count as representing
@@TheBoyNextWorld1996 she should still have a tiny ounce of awareness of how Asian men have been treated in American movies and American tv throughout history, and understand that some of the criticisms towards “To All The Boys…” is with that context in mind. Increasingly even non-asians are now acknowledging how Asian men have been treated in western media.
To not be all that knowledgeable of that context can maybe be excused, because she grew up in a very white environment. But for her to go one step further and write off the criticisms as just tribalism or just people who don’t like seeing interracial couples seems like WILLFUL ignorance coming from her.
@@korra999c7 she won’t if her circle was just white people lmao
@@TheBoyNextWorld1996 she’s got to be extremely clueless if she consumes media and works in media, and doesn’t notice the difference between how white men are portrayed vs how Asian men are portrayed. Seems more like willful ignorance
I always enjoy your videos and the insight - whether it's food or fashion. You both carry yourselves so well and this is so essential in moving forward for Asian Americans. I like that you both stress being connected to reality is so important. Hollywood =/= what's happening on the streets. Thank you for reminding us to do the work. Much love!
I love that you cover so much of the nuanced issues that we face. There’s no one right answer on how we get there but the more voices we have the better!
I’d like to see Asian actors getting jobs that don’t put their ethnicity front and center to play a stereotype. Kung fu, broken English, type A, over achieving family dynamic, etc have all been overdone and does little for diversity.
Gran Torino?
Wow this was phenomenal discussion about the issue. You guys have some of the best dialogue and videos, you really do. I agree with the points you guys made.
Asians aren’t as vocal and rambunctious to get our ideas out there compared to other PoC but I believe if the desire and want is there, us Asians have always found a way to succeed.
If only 2 or 3 Asians wants to be into mainstream media, no point really shouting at the top of the lungs to get Asian representation when no one is really signing up.
The sad truth
Agreed
Exactly! Some are just content being in the background but those who are in the background should at least be supportive who are putting themselves out there
True. Black ppl shit their pants when ppl style their hair a certain way 😂😂 yet somehow it isn’t racist they eat Asian food that they made fun of for the past 2 decades
Because when Asians speak up people gaslight the fuck out of you. When asian people do anything people feel the need to jump in your face, other asian people looking for validation from other people the most.
I am a fil/am who got my chops by moving back to the philippines then returning to america with mad skills. Cool to see you understand my type as well.
Our community may be in a tough situation but it gives our community the grit and will to succeed. We haven't made it so we are not complacent or too comfortable. There is a lot more work to be done but this pandemic has brought the Asian community closer together and more aware of the problems that exists. Asians in American media and pop culture has been steadily increasing and we are still progressing.
My opinion based on my Sociology and Poli-Sci background. I think as I am Asian (from Burma), we have to start from the grass-root level because I observed that being "Asian" or the word "Asian" used to have a flavor of inferiority or being used with an inferior connotation. It was until past 5 years at least. It is probably due to a generational trauma. I admit I felt a little ashamed to say that I am Asian for no clear reason other my own self-inferiority. However, I am now in my late 30s and have learned to be proud of who I am, I am a lot of more comfortable and proud to say "I am Asian!". A lot of times, it is how the media and/or Hollywood has been portraying Asians in the mainstream medias in addition to the racist ideology that the world has been polluted by corrupted people. Irish, Italians, Jews, blacks and Latinos had gone through this. It is a process. We must do it ourselves. Shout out to all my Asians!
Hey Fung Bros - seriously good video! Your final point is the most important one! I’ve been watching your stuff for years, since some of your very early videos. Well done guys! Keep it up. I’m wowed by your enthusiasm, quality content and great presentation
This is very informative and very well structured - fantastic analogies and comparisons. Definitely sharing this.
Thanks for making this episode. It also just reminds me that New York Times recently publicized a piece saying Asian Americans are over represented in figure skating. A main stream media with such a status wouldn’t even dare to say African Americans are over represented in NBA or NFL. Instead they are now criticizing that there are not enough black coaches in NFL. Sometimes I feel like diversity or people of color only mean black people in America. No hate toward black people. I think their tactics in terms of crating a narrative in the society and fighting for their rights have succeeded and Asians need to learn from them and not just play by the book.
We got 2 types of Asian celebrities, a goodie goodie or an urban type, confused and consumed by rap culture
I’m south Asian and I get pushback from other Indians about my more conservative political views but they haven’t been through what I have. The point at the end about gaslighting Asians sums that sentiment up beautifully
I’m an Asian American male, and I was so happy to see Crazy Rich Asians. But then when I found out that the entire female casts were married to white men, I felt disgusted. I no longer see the movie as an accomplishment men for us, but rather just pretty Asian girls who gave in to their white fever and got a movie out of it.
But what does that have to do with this discussion? There was Asian male representation IN the movie.
Who the actors choose to marry seems redundant.
What? Lol I mean don't get me wrong some Asian women who only date white dudes, so I understand why you probably think they might be two faced. However, you can't always pick who you fall for though- So judging them by their spouse's race is kind of crappy
@@SBaguettes asian's complaint about no asian reprsentation and then the woman don't like asian men, they prefer white men, they clearly chose white men
@@Brucelee89896 It could be that they also dated Asian man but the guys they ended up with were a better fit for them personally 🤷🏻♀️ I understand what you're saying but you can't limit their love life for representation.
(Ps: there are plenty of Asian guys that only date white women too, it be like that sometimes)
@@SBaguettes But why is it that most Asian women choose white guys? But when you look at other ethnic females (Latinas, Middle Easterners, etc), they typically go for their own men?
Trending Asian media (dramas & shows) online is definitely adding a new flavor too... especially *Squid Game* which went totally viral worldwide
This is so true, similar issues with desis/South Asians. It’s funny bc growing up I didn’t really actively think about media representation or care about it bc it was not affecting my day to day, but then once I went into college it’s like representation was *the thing* to care about; not saying either is right or wrong it’s just we all have different interests and priorities based on our lived experience
Another great video! Totally agree with the club example. Everyone is getting in but it will take time. I say the same thing with my podcast that things take time. Its not all going to come in at once and taking the necessary steps are vital for growth.
underground no no you guys def above ground and def representing the asian american/culture and doing a dam good job boys 👊keep up the great content, theres many of us thats routing for you on the sidelines that you represent 👍
Love it. It applies to any Asians in any western country. I'm Asian Scottish #fungbrosarethebest
Truly the underground duo here, I don't see content like this anywhere else. Love the content guys, very insightful
Asian character with stereotypical Asian parents but he/she struggles in school and only gets a couple As and an even split of Bs and Cs. Is down to earth and not shooting for college but rather a blue collar trade school. In other words, to be seen as the average American person with no more and no less than anyone else and is multi-faceted as he/she is discovering themselves through their journey through life. That's what I want to see on the big screen.
Two of my favorite UA-camrs giving a multidimensional (including class/geography-based) analysis of something I seek to learn more about. We have no choice but to stan.
Came across this today. Love this! You guys are hitting all the right points.
10:06 Very interesting view point. I know in my community ( African American) we have a problem African/Caribbean actors taking roles away from African Americans particularly roles portraying African American's such as in biopics.
I don't think African-Americans are losing African American roles to African/Caribbean actors. Its more African British actors that are taking up all the African American roles.
@@devilrider39000000 Facts. There’s a simmering debate about how they see themselves and the work they get compared to African American actors.
I don’t remember her name but they had a British actress play Harriet Tubman over an African American actress.
@@reikun86 Cynthia Erivo
@@devilrider39000000 Them too lol
@@devilrider39000000 I've seen both but either way the dynamic is non-AfrAm black people portraying AfrAm characters
I HATE it in movies frequently show white dudes beating/killing a bunch of Asians with martial arts >:(
An example of that would be a white person who adopts a ninja/samurai persona while slaughtering a bunch of Yakuza
Re: point 4, similar to the NBA analogy, I think it's important that game recognize game and people in North America don't view themselves as so important, since it really takes seeing the world to see how massive the scale for things really is internationally. North America really ain't that impressive.
i think if there were an agency like American Idol where they set up auditions in Asian communities across the US seeking only Asian Americans (AA), they will find many talented and attractive AA actors. But since there isn't, we get the usual small pool of AA actors that Hollywood will instantly go to for convenience.
When I watch an AA movie, sometimes I'll question the choice of casts and feel a bit disappointed when the casting director isn't Asian. I'm not saying Asian casting directors are better, I just feel that they have a better network on the Asian community that they can introduce to fit the ideal role and bring new talented faces to the big screen.
I agree with everything. But why didn't you guys talk about Awkafina's recent controversy. Would have loved to hear your guys' take on that.
Yes I agree!
I just watch Asian programming from Asia. A lot of it is pretty great. No need to scrape and beg for acceptance and access in the West, when there's excellent programming and production in Asia itself. Asian talent from the West is flocking to Asia and making it big.
I guess the debate is more for Asian Americans in Hollywood, what kind of work do they get, and how welcomed they are in Asian studios.
Thats not the point, we want mainstream acceptance because its our own country whose media portrayal shapes our daily life experience here in america whether you accept it or not, any asian who left their safety bubble of the bay area CA or other coastal cities knows what we are talking about and why media representation is an issue.
You know what the media should focus on? The Asian American experience. Instead of glamourizing Asians we should keep it real and show the struggles we face, like immigration, language barriers, poverty, racism, and what life in an Asian American family looks like. Also, let us diversify the Asian community we see in the media. We usually see east Asia and never really central Asia, southeast Asia, north Asia, south Asia, and western Asia.
*Incredible video* perfect in every way, you guys are the BEST, much love, respect, and the best of luck in everything
Great discussion on this topic! Thank you!
Pretty excited for The Sympathizer as a different story to be told for Vietnamese people even though it is a war time story. I hope it opens the door for more relatable Vietnamese story post war in the future.
I have been irritated by shows like 'House of Ho' as Vietnamese representation and the audacity that family has to claim that they opened the door for The Sympathizer to be made 🙄
Well damn bros. You guys are awesome. Talk about truth and being realistic. Really dope video. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
point #5 so sad, but very true... got a long way to go.
Great video essay as always with you guys, but can you do a discussion on the pressures of asian representation in entertainment because of the suicides of kpop idols and actors in the last couple of years or the consequences Constacne Wu was dealt after her twit about returning to FOTB?
Exactly. They’re always just saying the surface level conversation… it’s so slow and don’t want to say the things that should’ve been said ages ago.
Let's WORK bros!
I've been subscribed to this page since I was just a little kid, I am 22 now.
I have a question how did Asian become the term to describe a race? It’s a continent and you have India and countries with similar looking people to them along with Russia. So I’m just curious how China and similar looking features took upon the bane Asian as the racial description?
Found the video kinda all over the place. I could mostly follow since I know this topic but to a non-Asian, this is disorganized and would benefit from a clear argument and organization. I'm kinda surprised it's framed as educational... There's potential for it to be but needs fact checking, sources, real organization, and not just two bros chit chatting (which is fine) but disconnected from the goal if this is to reach and educate a wide audience. Clearly though I think your hearts are in the right place and appreciate even the slightest mention of class differences in the community; it's true that most neglect that entirely.
like the point where you group steven yeun and Daniel dae Kim as a non-american asian american is kinda bizarre. 1.5 gen kids should not be grouped w the ronny chiengs just because they're born outside america. one example of a weird point to argue. Like, yeun went to Kalamazoo and Kim went to Haverford, they were educated in traditional American liberal arts. Citing their birthplaces and that somehow being similar to Ronny or simu is very incorrect...
i also think most people don't consume as much media as they think they do. so their complaints feel out of context. even something as banal like the recent "how i met your father" has two asian characters (viet adoptee; indian) but no one will cite that as 'representation' because it's not all asian. complaining that the entire landscape aren't shang chi's back to back is pointless when in reality it's going to be one shang chi and a bunch of other asian actors spread out.
many (not all) shows have intentionally diverse casts (filipino guy on "the mayor"; filipino, hawaiian, half-japanese, and japanese characters in "superstore"); the actual writing may not be that deep, esp if they're comedies.
i can also think of something like "the cleaning lady," a new network show with undocumented immigrants from the philippines/cambodia. it's a great show, watch it, but no one talks about it! the outrage for lack of asian representation sometimes feels like it comes from an emotional place, from someone who actually doesn't even watch tv! there's trendiness to calling for more as justice as a trend, but some don't even watch enough tv to notice the actual changes that do exist!
another thing, to group BTS as Asian American representation bc they're on American tv shows, again what a bizarre point to argue... Or even suggest as what people are saying in the discourse. (Again I appreciate you bringing these points up but if you see yourselves as the mediator or translator, you need to provide better context for viewers.)
I know it might not be quite comparable, but just wanted to know if Fung Bros has been following the rise of Simu Liu in the Marvel universe and now he's everywhere in media (even though he's a Canadian). Also commentary WRT Asian representation.
do a vid on refugees vs immigrants
not all asian americans now days are really refugees. some these people are loaded, not exactly political refugees
yes! thank you!
small independent films are cheap, but can be insanely high grade, like purple kush, or the dro: slum dog with cheap, and filming a lot of scenes and then inputting the green screen acting into it, is so cheap. i guess that’s how i’m gonna make mine, plus i know some really talented film directors that might be able to make simple cheap tactics like that work. i express my thoughts, and they end up long, i won’t comment for a while:
Loved BTS , saw the group here in the U.S. Thank you for representing all Asians!
I remember the 2020 election and all the news media network was showing statistics among each race and who were they likely to vote for. Guess which race was left out of the bar graph? Hello, Asian-American freaking vote in election too.
You guy should get China Mac on the show. Especially after all the bad shit going on in America.
have you taken in consideration that MAYBE..(I said maybe) not a lot of Asian Americans want in be in the spotlight? Their are a ton of greatly successful Asian Americans behind the scenes who are writers, producers, designers, developers, entrepreneurs, etc. you guys have been preaching this for years! You guys keep saying representation but if no one is going to the try-outs, and if a white man was chose for the role there’s not much y’all can do but to continue influence and encourage your community on things they do enjoy doing their best at!
How about start new segment interviewing a day in the life of non actor/actress successful Asian Americans. You promoting them may open doors for you all!
this and ANA are my best therapy for my generational trauma I got from my childhood. thank you guys
I thank the good lord for Lisa Ling everyday! And you guys are up there too
The most relatable Asian American character ever has to be Glenn played by Steven Yeun. Surprised he doesn't get more roles on American TV.
Lol Agree re: we are at iphone 3g at best right now! lol and indeed re: your #5 point
In China, everyone knows about Daniel Wu. In effect, his name is more like a adjective, when trying to describe a man is suuuuper handsome, sexy and attractive.
I think one thing about Asian faces born and raised abroad is that, a lot of them may not even try to represent Asians in America. They are probably the ones who know more about Asian culture and they are more comfortable and confident in their own skins, and can already be successful and well- known and make a lot of impact in their home country. So for those people, making an influence in America is only a plus, not a must, as they are not trying to survive and thrive in this country. On the contrary, even American-born super star Daniel Wu failed his attempt here in the US, while he is already a successful and influential actor in Chinese Movie history. As a foreign born and raised Asian here in the states, what I have noticed is that although a lot of Asian Americans are trying to claim that they are proud of their roots and culture, they really don’t. They only do very superficial things during holidays, and if they are barely able to speak their mother tongue, how they are able to understand and appreciate the rich culture behind their ancestors. Without truly understanding and appreciating their own roots/culture/history, how can they be proud of themselves in a land whose past history is almost fully written by white people that doesn’t really represent them? I think this is something worth reflecting on for a lot of younger generations.
Love the podcast style
Such great points. Overall the goal is for the Asian face to get more exposure in all media.
Your aim should not be to get into Hollywood because Hollywood is dying anyway, your aim should be to make better content and have that content go to a wider audience, making videos directed at Asian Americans is fine but it gives you a narrow pool of 5% of the USA. You become a big fish in a small pond with that mentality.
Everything you said! Also… the Nas sticker on the window!
I know y’all are boys with Jeremy Lin, but thoughts of Eddie huangs opinion/perspective on Lin and his Asian representation. I know Eddie has been critical of Lin.
Love your styles Fung bros❤️❤️
iPhone? Been in blue collar job for thirty years, we are still at the flip phone stage.
Hey Fung Bros. I would like to reach out to you about a speaking opportunity for non-profit organization for AAPI community event in DC. Let me know if you're up to it.
Joji was eating puke cakes on UA-cam before hitting it big🤣 I think he's earned it.
Hey there David and Andrew, I was wondering what your stance is on Eileen Gu (aka Gu Ai-Ling) who was an American born skiing athlete but ended up attending the winter Olympics for China?
Eileen Gu can pick to represent China because she goes back to China every year to visit grandma. It is more lucrative financially for her to ski under the ROC banner.
are we talking about liv miami or space miami? theirs probably automatically two spots, and unfortunately even with my comment being, i don’t see why asians can’t create their own movies, that are also americanized and has american supporting cast that aren’t asian. like harold and kumar, with doctor crazy. so basically even if it’s one club for asians, it’s going to have some at the top and the bottom. based on many different factors, but i would say everyone on that specific level audition, and who ever is best gets it, no matter if your a top actress or not. i wrote a lot of movies and anime, my rap album is dropping soon, i want to at some point make my movies but i would eliminate the factors of favoritism and just make the choices based on talent, and the look needed for the character. Iko Uwais is killin it big time, he’s not the typical chinese looking asian, but he’s amazing, so if he fit the role i would go with him, unless someone else fit the role. asians need to stop thinking in terms of being an outsider in america, and they need to stop thinking we can only do what they offer in terms of who is controlling the movie industry. the more we have movies that are most asians, but has a great mix of other races that are here, the more we will be able to merge with the rest, and settle in as one big multi dish family. so basically the flip side to white people movies, where asians are the lead, and the rest are supporting, but it’s also a asian made movie, then just market for each persons race that has a big role in the movie, to draw everyone to the movie. when people are treated as if they can do what they want. if their bad they will do that, so stop treating rich people like their something, treat everyone with respect, but don’t let them get away with wrong, and don’t participate or support it. that’s one of the main problems you guys touched on, how to get the benefits rolling. i think eliminate corruption, give everyone a chance for a profitable role, that means if you got multiple actors fitting the role, give them all a shot at a movie. don’t just give one actor all the movies. but they can support, hell i watch alot of asian movies, their are tons of top guys and women getting shuffled, all have a big role, but the actual main character roles goes to a different person. i also think expanding supporting roles and help get the lines moving and also move some people up to top roles easily, as the familiarity is there, but it doesn’t need to be, hell you could walk off the street and end up being so talented your a instant success, and profiting immensely.
Do y’all think orgs like the Gold House is doing a good job at the things you guys mentioned? Would be nice to give specific examples of people/orgs that are currently working towards better representation by starting their own thing
Or do you think that’s still a very exclusive elitist way of doing things
Relevant and insightful
Also that seal of white approval shouldn’t be the standard
kinda sad u guys didnt touch on this but. asians are more then chinese korean and japanese, and unless you are one of these 3 you are not accepted. speak on this.
@John Le They are Lacist
Thank you for this!!!
Asian representation in media is the Chinese, Japanes, Korean, Vietnames, Filipino, Taiwanse news, film and entertainment with 100% Yellow casting
These guys are multimillionaires and they don’t represent 80% of Asians in America.
So here's a thing, I'm from the UK and the Asian people I know and who think of are from south Asia e.g India, Pakistan and Bangladesh rather than east Asia China, Korea and Japan etc.
Forsure still waiting fir the South East Asian representation
As China and many Asian countries getting stronger and more prosperous, we asian do see improvement
Long time subscriber here. I love their sense of humour but the fung bros have always believed that ABCs are superior than fobs, (in this video, the night-club analogy) which to me just sounds like internalized racism.
I think Asians are still at the flip phone
no one really cares about us
You’re preaching to the choir about representation. Try being Hispanic/Latino and be part of the H club. Humble,hostile, and hormonal. You can’t even name 1 major big name actor who is Hispanic/Latino on the level of Leonardo DiCaprio,Al Pacino,Robert Deniro,Ben Affleck,Matt Damon. Even Antonio Banderas isn’t as big as them. He has shared the screen with some high profile people but never starred or had a lead role. The only way to get recognition is to be your self on screen. So if you are Asian and from a poor family,an immigrant,wealthy,etc… than make a movie about that.
If you are still at iPhone 4...... And iPhone 14 is coming.....
Just jump ship.. harmony OS. Hahhahaha.
BTW "Crazy Rich Asians" was kind of racist . The only Indian was a valet. That was supposed to be Singapore. There are 4 nationalities in Singapore. No Malays and or Indians / Tamils represented in the movie. So that "oversight" in truthful representation of Singapore was a complete turn off to me.
I’m not even Asian. This is just intriguing
I'm Mexican American but my fiance is Japanese. I notice that the media does tend to focus on making it look like all Asians are wealthy or that all Asians come from China. With the Kpop scene though in recent years some people in America are starting to open up to Asian cultures I noticed. However, the Covid situation didn't help matters I think, and there are still a lot of people that get the Asian cultures mixed up. For example, when my fiance came to visit me in America from Japan a couple of years ago we took a trip to LA and people there seemed to know she was Japanese. However, when we drove through smaller cities, people would think automatically she's from China lol. Apparently to many Americans Kpop and Anime and the word ni hao are all combined into one large sushi roll in their mind.
Time to buck up, we are out here.
Is David really representing the current state of Asian streetwear with his outfit???
I really like arkwafina, but she is now in. like. every. movie.
Except woke want to cancel her
Lol how is that bad, female actors especially need to hustle to strike while the iron's hot and they're in-demand. There was/is a period where Anya Taylor-Joy was in "everything" as was Elle Fanning. It's called working. The advent of streaming has made is a lot easier, and even expected, for actors to be in multiple projects at once. In Hollywood, when someone hasn't done something for around a year, it's like where are they?
Bruh there’s so many other Asian actresses that deserve the opportunities and they settle for her because of hype
@@mest5621 I mean I am not a fan of hers but how many popular Asian actresses and actors that are well known. I would say about 30 or so. Minus 1 that would be about a 4% decrease of total Asians in Hollywood. All in all there are so few Asians in Hollywood that losing one rep feels like a bigger lost. It kinda feels like they are just picking on the Asian community.
KPOP just give Asians another face besides Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan. Why is Asian male actor always have to do stunt? I never see Asian or black lead character play doctor, lawyer, or entrepreneur. It's hard not to feel bitter if you identify as American but don't get appreciated as much as the rest of Americans, especially if you are raised in America. Why nobody wants to tell stories of Asian immigrants? Not saying Asians don't get support from other communities but the lack of representation means Asians can't really feel connected to America. It creates identity crisis.
I think most Asians are at the iPhone 4- iPhone 6 (as an Asian person)
We need more Game Changers like Shohei Ohtani.