@@sarahwithadragon6729 Yes, I think that’s what happened. When hearing of her arrival, Henry went to see her unofficially. Henry had once been described as the most handsome prince in all of Christendom. No matter how old and fat Henry got, he continued to see himself that way. However, the man that Anne saw that night bore no resemblance to the young, fit man that Henry once was. Her shock must have made Henry see himself for what he had become and that made her “ugly” in his eyes🙁
@@chinavaughan6383 not only that- he was apparently very forwards, despite being dressed in rags (or as close to as he could bear). From her perspective, being betrothed to the king, indulging such behaviour from some strange man could have cost her dearly
Anne of Cleves might have actually been attractive, just to Henry. In fact, Anne Bolyen and Jane Seymour were actually not beautiful women and Henry was attracted to them.
Anne was smart and cautious. After she said she wanted to stay in England Henry VIII threatened her. He Effectively bated her with the french ambassador story. She was smart and said that he had a new queen. And then she went on to praise the queens qualities. Anne got away!
She was just the pawn of ambitious men, like many princesses of that era. After Henry dumped her, she didn’t want to return to her own country because she was afraid she would be forced into another marriage by her brother. After Katherine Howard’s execution, Anne hoped Henry would take up with her again, but he wasn’t interested.
l dont think Henry regretted divorcing Anne after Katherine was executed, he could have remarried her but he went on to marry Katherine Parr. Anne and Katherine were the lucky ones Anne went on to have a great life, but Katherine had a tragic end after marrying Tomas Seymour
@decimusvitae don’t forget Anne of cleves did convert during Mary’s reign because Anne of cleves name was mentioned in the Wyatts rebellion but no proof was found and Mary wrote to her asking her to convert and she agreed oh by the way if Henry the 8 decided to give both Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard an annulment and sent them away rather than getting them executed and they were both still alive during Mary’s reign what would have happened to them in your opinion
@decimusvitae Mary loved Anne of Cleves because she was gentle and kind and never argued about religion and she treated Mary with respect Mary was treated so badly by her own father and l felt sorry for her
@@mariealexander9545 what if Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard got an annulment and instead of being executed they were sent away and what would happen to them as the years progressed in your opinion and if they were still alive during Mary’s reign
I think Henry missed the ease with Anne vs the hyperness of Catherine. He could have conversations with her that had substance. He wanted both worlds. 80/20 rule even applies to a king. I think Anne would have had a severely different life if she had not stepped aside so easily. She had a much easier life being his “sister” and confidante than his wife.
The language barrier I think was a big issue. She didn't speak much English before coming to England. Henry was a charmer and enjoyed witty conversation and flirting. Anne came to a new country knowing nothing about the customs the culture and language, knowing no one and then there was that first meeting where Henry disguised himself which doomed the marriage from the start. Once she learned how to speak English and dance and she had been in the country for a bit she was able to show who she really was. A smart good natured woman who can certainly hold her own in a conversation. And she wasn't ugly. That's just a rumor that was spread because Henry's ego was bruised.
It's a shame that The King divorced, Anne. For she was the perfect Queen for him. She was an extraordinary gift from G_D. She would have given Henry 5 sons and he would have been truly happy with her.
For that to be true, Henry would have needed a much healthier, less bloated ego. His own desires were everything to him, and he didn’t handle delayed gratification well. I don’t think Henry was ever happy for more than brief intervals. After the glow of each new conquest or acquisition quickly wore off, Henry always grasped for more. His greed was a bottomless black hole, one which destroyed most of those who came into Henry’s orbit.
I don't know if Henry ever actually regretted his divorce to Anne of Cleves. Perhaps he silently did, and perhaps he later recognized it was a mistake, in secret, when he considered all things, but he apparently never said it for the record. He was much too proud for that.
No he didn't. When Catherine Howard was executed Anne and her brother gave hints to Henry to marry Anne again. He rebuffed them. Anne got the hint and backed off. They still got along well after that.
@@einezcrespo2107 That's fair. There's always the possibility though for things unsaid and unwritten. Anyways, can't blame the lovely lady Anne for making a suggestion, but Henry was always going to be the stubborn, selfish, crummy person he was.
I'm still looking for the scene where Henry asks Anne if she minds him staying with her for the night and she looks so sweet in that moment as though terribly confused but then the next scene is of them in what can be considered afterglow. I think Katherine was getting it on with Culpepper around the same time if I'm not mistaken lol.
In real life the king did not regret divorcing her. After she heard about Katherine Howards execution she got her councillors to approach Henry about them remarrying but he refused. She tried several more times over the months but was finally told that the king would never remarry her. She was crushed but had to live with it.
Why in the world Ann want to Remarry the King?? Ann had it made and was living an Independent Life and was able to do pretty much as She Pleased. Don't Understand This??
@@gailcurl8663 You really don't know why? Because it is a big disgrace to be divorced from a king....the world always blames the woman for it going wrong. How was Ann to explain this to her brother back in Cleves? She even said she was afraid to go home in case she was executed for failing in her marriage and bringing disgrace and humiliation to her brother and his government. And she never really understood the reason for the divorce in the first place - that the king didn't fancy her plus the political situation had changed and the king no longer needed Cleves as an ally. It was a big step down for Ann from Queen of England to the kings sister........after Katherine Howards shenanigans she may have hoped the king would now see her in a more favourable light which he did since she caused no fus over the divorce, and because she befriended his children and was kind to them. So she was welcome at court as an honoured visitor, just not as queen.
You wonder. Were the women climbing over each other to marry him or was he climbing over women he was related to to wed one he wasnt? He just was one very unlucky king.
Hell no! When Henry VIII decided to annul his marriage to Anne of Cleves, she was sent the divorce papers with instructions to sign them, give back her wedding ring along with the signed papers or...end up like Anne Boleyn. (This was before he married Katherine Howard, naturally.) And while Anne of Cleves may not come across as bright in the many books written about the Tudors, the woman was far from stupid either. Anne did EXACTLY what Henry wanted to do: sign the divorce papers, return the ring with it and just go with the flow for the time being. She knew damn well pissing the King off wouldn't do her a bit of good. She did want to go back to Germany, as one theory goes but couldn't because once she had married Henry VIII, even despite just getting divorced, Anne was longer considered a citizen of her homeland. Another theory is that she DIDN'T want to go back to Germany. Honestly, it depends on the historuan whose book you're reading. Now, here's some interesting tidbits: Anne didn't speak a word of English so when he sent his envoys to accompany her back to England for the wedding, the envoys tried to teach her some English, in an extremely limited time but that backfired in a hurry. Nor did the King's envoys warn poor Anne about Henry's theatrics aka acting as Robin Hood with his own circle of friends as "His Merry Men" and sweeping (more like barging if you ask me) into his soon to be new queen's lodgings and "rescue her" as if she were Maid Marion. God, I wish they had already invented film in the 16th century...I'd be on my floor dying of laughter but laughing quietly and in a safe place. Yikes! Henry had done this with Catherine of Aragon but she had already been forewarned and prepped...But when Henry heard Anne of Cleves had arrived on England's shores, was being taken, with her ladies, to proper lodgings, the King impulsively decided to try his "Robin Hood" act out on Anne of Cleves who had just arrived hours before, was in a foreign land, knew absolutely no one but her own ladies and knew not ONE word of English. Oh yes and she hadn't been warned about the King's "Robin Hood" fantasies. Had it worked on his first wife? Yah. But this was 1540. He was no longer fit, he was fatter than a tick, he had a hair pin trigger of a temper, he was paranoid and so much more. So, when Henry and his men made it to where Anne and her people were being lodged, he burst into the room where Anne was, grabbed her into a great bear hug and started avowing his love for her. That didn't sit well with Anne. Or her ladies. Shoot, it didn't sit well with me!!! Anne pushed him away and not realizing that was the King, started hurling insults at him until someone managed to get through to her that was THE KING. Her FUTURE HUSBAND. Anne felt bad, tried to apologize but Henry went out with a huff. On their wedding night, the marriage wasn't consumated. It was NEVER consumated. Henry put the blame all on Anne. Saying she stank, she was ugly (False!!!) she was fat and many other things. But the problem was not Anne. It was HIM. He was so overweight, his one leg was always oozing vile pus and hurting him, he just couldn't...get it up. Centuries later, up to 2024, historians believe he had some sort of problem or disease in his "manly" parts that would never have been found and identified back then. And not like anybody would speak out against the King when his doctors claimed him fit and healthy as a horse. Yeah, right. And I've got swamp land in Arizona I wanna sell to you. God help me, I've written a college thesis! I didn't mean to...I'll end this by saying of all of Henry VIII's wives, she outlived every one of, even Katherine Parr. She saw Edward, Henry's only son, become Edward VI only to out live him as well when he died at just 15. And I believe she saw Princess Mary be crowned as Queen Mary I. It wasn't long after that when Anne herself passed away. And when she did finally pass beyond the veil, she died an extremely wealthy woman. Henry had, as an act of gratitude for signing those papers, claimed her as his "most beloved sister." Anne was houses, land, money, whatever she wanted, within reason, of course. And Anne really did treat both Princess Mary and Princess Elizabeth well. And I wonder if that was another reason why he showered Anne with so much money and property: not that she gave him that divorce and returned the wedding ring without a fight or complaint but that she also treated those girls well. We'll never truly know. But I do know that Anne of Cleves laughed on her way to meet the Grim Reaper because she not only died rich, she kept her head and got to see a queen crowned for the first time...ever? I can't remember. Anne of Cleves is buried in a small tomb or coffin by herself, in a lovely church, with her name beautifully engraved on top of the stone covering her. It's a nice sweet spot. Really pretty. I just wish some of the other wives had been given the same level of respect and been buried with dignity.
@@katiewhatutlkinbout7876 you’re not wrong. She arguably fared best out of all his wives for having not stayed by him for long. Though perhaps almost being with him also improved her station- she was almost married off very young (11, if I recall?) but her aunt advocated for her and had it put off. Then the failed wedding to Henry bought her more time still to come into her own, rather than being kept under lock & key by male relatives and an older husband. She also did not reject Henry purely because he was old and fat (though who could blame her?), but more likely because she expected to be meeting her new husband soon and could not afford to jeopardize her position by entertaining old men! Henry really was a putz to think that little play act would accomplish anything
Henry Never Regretted Ending His Marriage to Ann of Cleaves. They Eventually became Friends and Hung Out Together. Ann was Lucky!! She Survived!! Ann is my Favorite Among Henry's Wives. She Seemed Like a Sweet and Kind Lady. Too Bad Henry Couldn't See It.
They chose the wrong actress for her to be labeled as the "ugly" queen.
She is beautiful.
She actually wasn’t ugly. She just wasn’t attracted to him and that pissed him off so he told everyone she was ugly
@@sarahwithadragon6729
Yes, I think that’s what happened. When hearing of her arrival, Henry went to see her unofficially. Henry had once been described as the most handsome prince in all of Christendom. No matter how old and fat Henry got, he continued to see himself that way. However, the man that Anne saw that night bore no resemblance to the young, fit man that Henry once was. Her shock must have made Henry see himself for what he had become and that made her “ugly” in his eyes🙁
@@chinavaughan6383 not only that- he was apparently very forwards, despite being dressed in rags (or as close to as he could bear). From her perspective, being betrothed to the king, indulging such behaviour from some strange man could have cost her dearly
Anne wasn't ugly.
Anne of Cleves might have actually been attractive, just to Henry. In fact, Anne Bolyen and Jane Seymour were actually not beautiful women and Henry was attracted to them.
Anne was smart and cautious. After she said she wanted to stay in England Henry VIII threatened her. He Effectively bated her with the french ambassador story. She was smart and said that he had a new queen. And then she went on to praise the queens qualities. Anne got away!
She was just the pawn of ambitious men, like many princesses of that era. After Henry dumped her, she didn’t want to return to her own country because she was afraid she would be forced into another marriage by her brother. After Katherine Howard’s execution, Anne hoped Henry would take up with her again, but he wasn’t interested.
She was German! Pragmatic😉 one great German virtue.
I’ll bet Henry wished he was that slim and handsome at the time he married Anne of Cleves.
hahahaha
Henry was slim and attractive when he was young. He only got fat after his accident.
Joss Stone is beautiful. And so sweet as Anne of Cleves.
JRM and Joss Stone had tons of chemistry. I hope they work together on another project.
l dont think Henry regretted divorcing Anne after Katherine was executed, he could have remarried her but he went on to marry Katherine Parr. Anne and Katherine were the lucky ones Anne went on to have a great life, but Katherine had a tragic end after marrying Tomas Seymour
How is Cathrine Parr lucky since she had a tragic life maybe not from Henry the 8 but in general
I do not think he could go back. That would have been very embarrassing. Anne of Cleves was a good choice. I think he did regret it.
@decimusvitae don’t forget Anne of cleves did convert during Mary’s reign because Anne of cleves name was mentioned in the Wyatts rebellion but no proof was found and Mary wrote to her asking her to convert and she agreed oh by the way if Henry the 8 decided to give both Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard an annulment and sent them away rather than getting them executed and they were both still alive during Mary’s reign what would have happened to them in your opinion
@decimusvitae Mary loved Anne of Cleves because she was gentle and kind and never argued about religion and she treated Mary with respect Mary was treated so badly by her own father and l felt sorry for her
@@mariealexander9545 what if Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard got an annulment and instead of being executed they were sent away and what would happen to them as the years progressed in your opinion and if they were still alive during Mary’s reign
He didn’t regret it. He was offered the chance to remarry her after Catherine Howard’s execution and he refused
I think Henry missed the ease with Anne vs the hyperness of Catherine. He could have conversations with her that had substance. He wanted both worlds. 80/20 rule even applies to a king. I think Anne would have had a severely different life if she had not stepped aside so easily. She had a much easier life being his “sister” and confidante than his wife.
The language barrier I think was a big issue. She didn't speak much English before coming to England. Henry was a charmer and enjoyed witty conversation and flirting. Anne came to a new country knowing nothing about the customs the culture and language, knowing no one and then there was that first meeting where Henry disguised himself which doomed the marriage from the start. Once she learned how to speak English and dance and she had been in the country for a bit she was able to show who she really was. A smart good natured woman who can certainly hold her own in a conversation. And she wasn't ugly. That's just a rumor that was spread because Henry's ego was bruised.
She became the richest women in all of England. 100% she lived her best life.
@@AnnaBellaChannel No such thing as your "best life." We each have A life, ONE life. That's it.
Anne of Cleves smelt financial freedom and she took it.
loved jonathan rhys meyers as King Henry VIII. watched the series twice, so moving. he is a terrific actor. also felt he did a terrific job as Elvis.
It's a shame that The King divorced, Anne. For she was the perfect Queen for him. She was an extraordinary gift from G_D. She would have given Henry 5 sons and he would have been truly happy with her.
For that to be true, Henry would have needed a much healthier, less bloated ego. His own desires were everything to him, and he didn’t handle delayed gratification well. I don’t think Henry was ever happy for more than brief intervals. After the glow of each new conquest or acquisition quickly wore off, Henry always grasped for more. His greed was a bottomless black hole, one which destroyed most of those who came into Henry’s orbit.
What makes you think she would've given him 5 sons?
I don't know if Henry ever actually regretted his divorce to Anne of Cleves. Perhaps he silently did, and perhaps he later recognized it was a mistake, in secret, when he considered all things, but he apparently never said it for the record. He was much too proud for that.
No he didn't. When Catherine Howard was executed Anne and her brother gave hints to Henry to marry Anne again. He rebuffed them. Anne got the hint and backed off. They still got along well after that.
@@einezcrespo2107 That's fair. There's always the possibility though for things unsaid and unwritten. Anyways, can't blame the lovely lady Anne for making a suggestion, but Henry was always going to be the stubborn, selfish, crummy person he was.
I'm still looking for the scene where Henry asks Anne if she minds him staying with her for the night and she looks so sweet in that moment as though terribly confused but then the next scene is of them in what can be considered afterglow. I think Katherine was getting it on with Culpepper around the same time if I'm not mistaken lol.
Ich Liebe Anne❤
In real life the king did not regret divorcing her. After she heard about Katherine Howards execution she got her councillors to approach Henry about them remarrying but he refused. She tried several more times over the months but was finally told that the king would never remarry her. She was crushed but had to live with it.
Yeah, she lived.
Why in the world Ann want to Remarry the King?? Ann had it made and was living an Independent Life and was able to do pretty much as She Pleased. Don't Understand This??
@@gailcurl8663 You really don't know why? Because it is a big disgrace to be divorced from a king....the world always blames the woman for it going wrong. How was Ann to explain this to her brother back in Cleves? She even said she was afraid to go home in case she was executed for failing in her marriage and bringing disgrace and humiliation to her brother and his government. And she never really understood the reason for the divorce in the first place - that the king didn't fancy her plus the political situation had changed and the king no longer needed Cleves as an ally. It was a big step down for Ann from Queen of England to the kings sister........after Katherine Howards shenanigans she may have hoped the king would now see her in a more favourable light which he did since she caused no fus over the divorce, and because she befriended his children and was kind to them. So she was welcome at court as an honoured visitor, just not as queen.
@@gailcurl8663yeah I don’t get it either
@@Amateur_Pianist_472 she probably got told by her brother that she needed to do so.
I remember being so surprised thst it was Joss Stone and then being so impressed.
You wonder. Were the women climbing over each other to marry him or was he climbing over women he was related to to wed one he wasnt? He just was one very unlucky king.
Not me sliding mii screen down mid video😂omg subscribe
Divorce from, not divorce to.
Can someone tell me what movie this is called? Is it a series or what i want to check it out
Tudors. It's a series
@@EvieKng where can i find it may i ask?
@@charleskendall6401It's online for free in 123movies
Or m4ufree
Not exactly historically accurate lol
Hell no! When Henry VIII decided to annul his marriage to Anne of Cleves, she was sent the divorce papers with instructions to sign them, give back her wedding ring along with the signed papers or...end up like Anne Boleyn. (This was before he married Katherine Howard, naturally.) And while Anne of Cleves may not come across as bright in the many books written about the Tudors, the woman was far from stupid either. Anne did EXACTLY what Henry wanted to do: sign the divorce papers, return the ring with it and just go with the flow for the time being. She knew damn well pissing the King off wouldn't do her a bit of good. She did want to go back to Germany, as one theory goes but couldn't because once she had married Henry VIII, even despite just getting divorced, Anne was longer considered a citizen of her homeland. Another theory is that she DIDN'T want to go back to Germany. Honestly, it depends on the historuan whose book you're reading. Now, here's some interesting tidbits: Anne didn't speak a word of English so when he sent his envoys to accompany her back to England for the wedding, the envoys tried to teach her some English, in an extremely limited time but that backfired in a hurry. Nor did the King's envoys warn poor Anne about Henry's theatrics aka acting as Robin Hood with his own circle of friends as "His Merry Men" and sweeping (more like barging if you ask me) into his soon to be new queen's lodgings and "rescue her" as if she were Maid Marion. God, I wish they had already invented film in the 16th century...I'd be on my floor dying of laughter but laughing quietly and in a safe place. Yikes! Henry had done this with Catherine of Aragon but she had already been forewarned and prepped...But when Henry heard Anne of Cleves had arrived on England's shores, was being taken, with her ladies, to proper lodgings, the King impulsively decided to try his "Robin Hood" act out on Anne of Cleves who had just arrived hours before, was in a foreign land, knew absolutely no one but her own ladies and knew not ONE word of English. Oh yes and she hadn't been warned about the King's "Robin Hood" fantasies. Had it worked on his first wife? Yah. But this was 1540. He was no longer fit, he was fatter than a tick, he had a hair pin trigger of a temper, he was paranoid and so much more. So, when Henry and his men made it to where Anne and her people were being lodged, he burst into the room where Anne was, grabbed her into a great bear hug and started avowing his love for her. That didn't sit well with Anne. Or her ladies. Shoot, it didn't sit well with me!!! Anne pushed him away and not realizing that was the King, started hurling insults at him until someone managed to get through to her that was THE KING. Her FUTURE HUSBAND. Anne felt bad, tried to apologize but Henry went out with a huff. On their wedding night, the marriage wasn't consumated. It was NEVER consumated. Henry put the blame all on Anne. Saying she stank, she was ugly (False!!!) she was fat and many other things. But the problem was not Anne. It was HIM. He was so overweight, his one leg was always oozing vile pus and hurting him, he just couldn't...get it up. Centuries later, up to 2024, historians believe he had some sort of problem or disease in his "manly" parts that would never have been found and identified back then. And not like anybody would speak out against the King when his doctors claimed him fit and healthy as a horse. Yeah, right. And I've got swamp land in Arizona I wanna sell to you. God help me, I've written a college thesis! I didn't mean to...I'll end this by saying of all of Henry VIII's wives, she outlived every one of, even Katherine Parr. She saw Edward, Henry's only son, become Edward VI only to out live him as well when he died at just 15. And I believe she saw Princess Mary be crowned as Queen Mary I. It wasn't long after that when Anne herself passed away. And when she did finally pass beyond the veil, she died an extremely wealthy woman. Henry had, as an act of gratitude for signing those papers, claimed her as his "most beloved sister." Anne was houses, land, money, whatever she wanted, within reason, of course. And Anne really did treat both Princess Mary and Princess Elizabeth well. And I wonder if that was another reason why he showered Anne with so much money and property: not that she gave him that divorce and returned the wedding ring without a fight or complaint but that she also treated those girls well. We'll never truly know. But I do know that Anne of Cleves laughed on her way to meet the Grim Reaper because she not only died rich, she kept her head and got to see a queen crowned for the first time...ever? I can't remember. Anne of Cleves is buried in a small tomb or coffin by herself, in a lovely church, with her name beautifully engraved on top of the stone covering her. It's a nice sweet spot. Really pretty. I just wish some of the other wives had been given the same level of respect and been buried with dignity.
@@katiewhatutlkinbout7876 you’re not wrong. She arguably fared best out of all his wives for having not stayed by him for long. Though perhaps almost being with him also improved her station- she was almost married off very young (11, if I recall?) but her aunt advocated for her and had it put off. Then the failed wedding to Henry bought her more time still to come into her own, rather than being kept under lock & key by male relatives and an older husband.
She also did not reject Henry purely because he was old and fat (though who could blame her?), but more likely because she expected to be meeting her new husband soon and could not afford to jeopardize her position by entertaining old men! Henry really was a putz to think that little play act would accomplish anything
Henry Never Regretted Ending His Marriage to Ann of Cleaves. They Eventually became Friends and Hung Out Together. Ann was Lucky!! She Survived!! Ann is my Favorite Among Henry's Wives. She Seemed Like a Sweet and Kind Lady. Too Bad Henry Couldn't See It.