Just in case anybody is confused about why Anne was upset about Henry's shirts, here's an explanation: Making some thing for someone, and spending time and energy creating it splendidly is an intimate action. And Henry wearing them is an action acceptance of that intimacy. That's why Anne was mad.
Not only that, but making the King's shirts was considered to be one of the wifely duties of the Queen. By continuing to let Katherine carry on sewing his shirts Henry was basically acknowledging her as his wife. Or at least that's how Anne saw it. Henry likely just saw it as convenient to let Katherine do it as she was an excellent seamstress and embroiderer and knew his measurements and what he liked.
She ruined a marriage , she could have let Katherine get some comfort by atleast making shirts Taking everything away from her so brutally is what killed her mercilessly
@@Mel-jy4kc He didn't just want a divorce, he wanted an annulment; that's an entirely different thing. Out of the five rather unfortunate women who suffered being married to him (I leave Anna von Kleve out of the group, since she was the only lucky one right after her divorce from him), Catalina ended up being, by far, the one who endured the most miserable outcome, beyond any doubt. Her love-and-then-heartbreak story with him is, to this day, among the most devastating ones of all time. May Catalina, the true Queen of England, rest in peace. 💔
Kokiri Emerald Either way the marriage was over and she needed to accept it. She was also not the one true queen. Once her marriage was annulled she was single, making Anne Boleyn the true queen until her death. Also, getting unfairly executed makes Anne Boleyn the one with the most miserable outcome.
TimeNeverSleeps1090--It's not just Henry. It's men, in general, who perceive themselves to be "alpha males" , whether by rank, or lucking out in the gene pool, or just in their own imagination. Nor is the phenomenon relegated solely to males. Alpha females exhibit those traits as well, using men to climb the social ladder or just to push aside a woman they view as lesser to them in looks, social class, or their own point of view.
I love how Henry practically shrugs it off, and then later he's like "you can't make my shirts anymore"...practically said: "you can't make my shirts anymore...Anne scares me" lol
Tbh the super quick transition between his red in the face, yelling “when will you realize I have more important things to think about than my shirts!!!!” to the soft “Catherine, you have to stop making my shirts” made me laugh out loud
Really? I've always thought that Mary was stupid. Henry was never going to take her mother back. She could have pretended to accept his wives and made things better for her and her mother. Mary never seemed to learn to play the hand that she was dealt. Instead she stupidly insulted Anne to her face, thereby pissing Henry off and hurting herself.
@@misspriss2482 Playing his game and admitting she was a bastard and the mother that was fighting so hard for her and her right to the throne never had a legal marriage? Mary stuck by her guns and stood up to her tyrant father, like her mother did.
It's fitting that Natalie Dormer played both Anne Boleyn and Margaery Tyrell because of how different they are. Anne (much like Cersei Lannister, ironically) never fully understood the perks of a good PR, her attempts to interfere in the matters of governance were met with haughty derision, and her behavior towards Henry after they were married did not help her case at all. By contrast, Margaery knows the game of politics like the back of her hand, perfectly understands the necessity of a good public image, and plays the meek and obedient wife flawlessly while gently--but firmly--wrapping her husband around her pretty little finger. Margaery is everything that Anne isn't.
Well I don't know about that, she did seduce or at least got Henry to divorce his previous wife of what 20 years or so and make her queen. She was apparently in charge or had some influence in bringing Protestantism in England, handpicking the bishops and clergymen. Henry made a Marques in her own right before she became queen. She was able to survive the way she did because of her astute mind and keenness in politics, that's how she won the divorce. I'd say both Anne Bolyne and Margaery were cut off from the same cloth, the only difference in unlike Joffery who one can blatently see was insane, Anne didn't know what she was getting into that or she was fooled into thinking Henry loved, which he probably did for a time, but seeing what happened to her predecessor she should have expected what happened, in my opinion it was all karma. Margeary wants to be queen for the power, and so did Anne, but I think Anne genuinely believed Henry loved which is why she couldn't just shut up and bear Henry's infidelity, what's more his waning attention to her bode ill to her because she had yet to bear a son, and her entire survival depended on that! Not to mention Margeary was lucky enough to have her wise and sassy grandmother to protect, Anne had none of that. I wouldn't say Anne was anything like Cersie, they share some alike, being puppets to their fathers but Anne's father recognized her intelligence and acknowledged it unlike Cersie. No Anne and Margeary are very alike, just one was more unlucky then the other.
Anne was a good mistress but a bad wife. Men want their mistresses to be exciting and volatile and almost out of reach. Anne was also everything Katherine was not and Henry was against Katherine because of the son issue. The family knew firsthand from the experience with Mary Boleyn that the family of the king's mistress profited so they wanted Anne next when Mary was no longer in flavour- but more long term, which she achieved through her wit, intellect and flirtatiousness and abstinence. He was besotted with her and gave her great influence over the kingdom so he could have a son. Her wish was his command. However, a wife should be humble and obedient and concerned with only woman's affairs. Once he married her he grew tired of her tantrums, especially when the lack of baby boys surfaced again. He no longer wanted her telling him what to do, that he couldn't have affairs as he had done with her and he did not want her influence in politics. Add to that that she'd made a powerful political enemy with Cromwell, she had no powerful allies abroad and she did not seem to be the type to go without a fight so he got rid of her the easiest way possible.
Anna had a fierce spirit, she would have thrown all the manners and public images of the world away if somebody tried to put her in "her" place. She was wild and free.
i wouldnt really say that. I mean there is a key difference between Margaery and Anne, because Anne genuinely loved Henry so of course she was upset when he did shit like cheating while for Margaery her husbands where tools for power (she was fond of Renly and Tommen, but didn't love them). Plus while i loved Margaery she didn't play her game flawless. She openly showed her ambition towards Littlefinger and other people and not to mention even when Cersei was trying to make amends she mocked her, resulting in her arrest and eventual death
Natalie owned every scene where she had to portray strong emotions like anger or sadness. This scene, the scene where she catches Henry and Jane Seymour kissing and when she had her second miscarriage are very powerful and her acting is fantastic .
@@autumnbottoms5743 The way she handled herself and her final words about King Henry were done to protect her daughter, Princess/Lady Elizabeth, in the future.
Anne was really good at manipulating Henry in the beginning according this series. She played her part well to get his attention and keep it. I suspect what changed was when she fell in love with him. Its easy to play and manipulate a person if there is no attachment but that changed for Anne.
No, I think that the manipulative ways (e.g. tantrums, jealousy, her argumentative nature) that served her so well as his mistress became a major disadvantage once she was his wife. The same qualities that stimulated and excited Henry in the beginning of their relationship turned him right off her once she was queen.
@@chooseyourpoison5105 Yup, she just wasn't queen material. And I'm not saying the Queen has to be submissive, only that a queen in those times, especially one married to a narcissistic king like Henry, should at least pretend to be submissive, while being defiant always on the inside. Catherine of Aragon did so all her life. Just because she tolerated Henry's mistresses and bastard son doesn't mean she was a weakling, but I believe Anne Boleyn thought that's exactly what the queen Catherine was. Anne's own brother George in the show said to her something like, "can't you be more like Catherine?!" Anne apparently really couldn't. She simply didn't want to, didn't have the patience and common sense to. I perfectly recall her looking so genuinely confused at the mere suggestion of it from her brother. "Be like... Catherine..?" Was what she had said, in a thoroughly bewildered tone. Her false tough chick persona and ultimately worthless pride meant more to her than staying in the king's good graces. I'm not here to defend Henry, as I think he was in the end nothing but a remorseless mass murderer, but I do staunchly believe that if Anne had pretended to be submissive and meek from the start of her marriage to the end of it, then Henry wouldn't have been so pissed at her. He would certainly still blame her for not having a son, as he blamed Catherine before, and he would certainly annual his marriage to Anne, as he did his union with Catherine before, but there's a good chance that an Anne who hasn't taken every moment to defy him, piss him off, disobey him, and talk back to him, an Anne who'd even stroked Henry's ego by making herself seem inferior compared to her Lord Husband the King, and an Anne who hadn't made enemies left, right and center in court, would likely have had her marriage annuled and gotten sent for life to a nunnery, instead of getting her head whacked off, I believe. I could be wrong, but I really don't think I am.
She was doing what she was told like most females in that time. She was a pawn used by the males in her family and their allies to gain power. Most of what she said and did would have been fed to her.
Anne: She still makes your shirts. How could you let her?.................................... You can't have three people in a marriage. Why can't you see that? Henry: And why can't you understand that I've more things to think about than my shirts!!!!!!! Later... Catherine, you're gonna have to stop making my shirts.
Henry: Why can't you understand that I have more important things to think about than my shirts?! Spongebob narrator: A few hours later. Henry: Catherine, you're gonna have to stop making my shirts.
To be perfectly honest, every scene as Anne Boleyn was perfect because Natalie Dormer was fucking amazing and in my honest opinion the best actress to have ever played her, nobody compares to Natalie's portrayal
This scene really does illustrate the old "men are from mars, women are from venus" adage. From Henry's perspective, he probably just wanted the shirts that he knew and liked; he's telling the truth when he says he hadn't even thought about it. From Anne's perspective, the shirts are symbolic of the fact that Katherine was still his wife, because she is still performing wifely duties (i.e. making his clothes) for Henry. Mars / Venus.
ChooseYour Poison lmao I hate how RIGHT your comment is. I understand her too well, but I see how he’s like wtf, I’m not even thinking about the damn shirts lmao
I feel like more than gender its the position they are in that plays the bigger role. Anne has alot to loose but Henry doesnt. Every action he takes depends on his ease. But to Anne, if Henry still has feelings for his wife then her role in the relationship is questioned. As i said two VERY different positions to be in.
Henry was caught between two stubborn wilful women. But he asked for it.......And Catherine of Aragon was not as meek and mild as many think. She was a proud Spanish princess from the most illustrious royal family in Europe and she fought her corner well when the time came. She outsmarted and undercut Henry in many ways - and in the end the Pope declared her marriage valid. She sadly did not realize that this would not bring Henry back to her. And Mary, who had blamed Anne for everything, expected she would be restored to her father and her position after Annes death.....that didn't happen either. Not for a long time. Not until she accepted her bastardy, and the king being supreme head of the church and other humiliating submissions after years of bullying by the king and his councilors. She never fully forgave her father.....there are hints in comments she has made and left for posterity.
Ikr? I do like the famous exchange where, attempting to gain an annulment after 20 years of marriage, Henry said to the Council that he had doubted the legitimacy of their marriage from the very beginning, and Katherine replied sweetly that if that were the case, then he had kept his doubts silent for a very long time. Oh, mic drop, Katherine! BOOM!
@Nenethegreat W Yes, people do stay silent a long time, but Henry wasn't one of them. Firstly, we all know that Henry wasn't the silent sort - he didn't hesitate to get rid of anyone he didn't like - heck, he got rid of Anne of Cleves so fast he puts Sonic the hedgehog to shame. Secondly, he did love Catherine for many years - he referred to her in letters as "my most dearly beloved spouse" and fought in tournaments under the banner of "Sir Loyal Heart" for her. Thirdly, how convenient for Henry that God should have caused him to have doubts about his marriage at the same time that he just happened to get the hots for Anne Boleyn. It's rather odd how "God's will" and the King's horniness seemed to be one and the same - how very obliging of Him.
At least in that case people don't idealize the adulterers like they do with Anne, going as far as making her blue eyed and giving Katherine black eyes and eyes since they're traditionally 'sinister' traits.
Natalie Dormer is the best in this role. Become,look,manner,gait. What is one look in which all Anna's feelings are read. And gait is something! Majestic,beautiful and so confident. And what a beautiful Natalie! Facial features of a real queen. Fatal woman and legendary queen. Her facial expressions are a separate kind of art. Laughter,the way she cries inimitably! What beautiful dresses in this series,but they would not have ventured on anyone but Dormer. The way she transmitted the mother's pain is impossible to repeat. How she played the torments of her most loving wife... In general,the career was a succes. Natalie has long been remembered by many as Anne Boleyn!
she was very subtle, clever and sly. But at the start she was insecure in case Henry went back to Catherine or fell for another. She then became secure and was excited when she was pregnant for a son but when it was a daughter and she couldn't give a son, she began to become insecure then panicked when Henry fell for Jane. That and they made the series OTT so we'd find it more exciting. Still love her though
Excellent production ,,got the whole series in 7 dvds /one whole case at target for 24.99. great deal i watched a fews episodes over and over Anne Boylen my favorite one.
Am I the only one who thinks that they should sequel the Tudors? Edwards reign was loaded with material short as it was, I would be interested just because it is one of the most under dramatized chapters in the Tudor dynasty. Not to mention marry the first, she was a lot more than just a villain for Elizabeth to overcome. And also Elizabeth herself, her reign did more than defeat the Spanish and execute Mary Queen of Scots.
@@misspriss2482 stop lying. Anne schemed to get H8. She was HARDLY a victim. She was a hypocrite. Only feminuts think of AB as a "victim". Of course feminuts think of ALL women as poor "victims" of big bad scary men 🤣🤣🤣
@@trawlins396 you're a weirdo. don't get me wrong, anne was very much so not in the right in some scenarios of her life and relationship with the king, but she did not deserve to get beheaded nor emotionally abused by that egg Henry. henry was a terrible king
"A shirt" is a totally different thing back then. It was like underwear; it was seldom taken off. People did not bathe as often then, and did not have many outfits. A king still wore a smock and a queen still wore a shift under her rich gowns.
Of course it was. Maybe it was even dubbed with a crying Baby voice afterwards. It helps to set the mood at the end of the scene and makes it more dramatic.
Anne was a very, very modern woman in her values years before her time. Hot headed and with a need to be heard, married to a man whose gender and crown meant no voice was allowed to be louder and no opinion was worth more. They were never in love with one another, they were in lust. Henry loved the idea of what she could give him, but when her voice became too loud and that idea seemed to fade with every loss they shared, he'd had enough. And when the King of England has enough, heads roll. Was Anne a perfect woman? No. But the men in her life were the reason she met the fate she did, her father and the King demanded too much and valued nothing about her but what they could get from her.
Alice Graham anne was manipulative but when she finally got with Henry. She didn't exactly understand how to keep her throne. It's easier to get it but harder to keep it.
Jessica Laffin I feel like she could have just been divorced instead of beheaded if after her marriage to Henry, she played the role of a submissive and obedient wife. Because her attitude wouldn’t have work Henry out-simply the lack of sons. He’d probably have let her off easier then
The only thing Anne did wrong was not get a child. Plus its no wonder Anne gets so angry and pasionate and Margaery not. Anne genuinely loved Henry so of course she was upset when he did shit like cheating while for Margaery her husbands where tools for power (she was fond of Renly and Tommen, but didn't love them)
Notice the way Anne dismisses Mary with just her eyes, so that only the two of them know. She really is trying to be kind, but Mary's not having any of it. Stubborn, stubborn girl. With good reason, of course.
I loved AB in this series, most of all because she was the only one of Henry's wives who stood up to him and didn't constantly press her lips to his ass every time he had a tantrum when he wasn't getting his way.
Hmm . . Katherine of Aragon, while outwardly a submissive wife, was Henry's intellectual equal and outsmarted him plenty of times. In real life, during the King's Great Matter, there was an exchange between Henry and Anne where Anne snapped "Did I not advise you not to argue with her Majesty, for she were sure to win?"
I’m really annoyed I never watched this when it was on. I watched The Other Boleyn Girl and fell in love with this whole story. A tv series would have been so exciting for me.
In The Tudors she was quite cunning and subtle at first, but then she made the mistake of falling for him and allowed her emotion to get the better of her. I might have been something like that in real life. Maybe no falling for him, but after realising the power she held over him, the power he gave her, it went to her head... and she forgot how easily she could be taken down.
Henry and Anne have a similar character. they were meant and deserve for each other.. KoA, Jane, or any other wives are too kind and good to be his wife
Agreed. Both were self centered psychotic assholes who deserved each other, alongside being deserving of worse than they got. I'm sure, in a modern au, Jane Seymour, Catherine of Aragon, Catherine Parr, Catherine Howard and especially Anne of Cleves, wouldn't give Henry 8 the time of the day - but Anne Boleyn, I'm certain, would be the only idiot who would fall hook, line and sinker for Henry's woe-is-my-married/love-life tales. Their relationship, just like in the show, would be a loop of back and forth narcissism-enriching feedback.
@@ineffablegabe Godamn! Did you really think the real Anne Boleyn wanted to be with Henry??? Not after what he did to her sister. She even had to leave her job/court to escape him but he still chased her. He probably thought she was playing "hard to get" but she wasn't. She was basically coerced into being his lover. Sure, over time she probably did come to love him but she had no choice. Remember, if she told the KING she didn't love him straight up, then there would be horrible consequences for her family. Also, take off your 21st century glasses for a second. This show is for entertainment purposes only. It's not 100 percent accurate. Reality was a bit more complicated.
@@isidroguevara4120 first of all, we are discussing the show here, it's your fault for assuming I was talking of the real life people, while I was only referring to their show counterparts. In this show, Anne Boleyn did willingly come to court with the intention of seducing Henry, her downfall was that she got seduced in turn. But, show! Anne Boleyn only has herself to blame for that, considering she literally spoke the words "seduce me" over and over to Henry. There was no Henry forcing Anne Boleyn into a relationship with him in the show. Henry in the show never once stalked her, only chased her like the lust struck idiot dog he was, when, again, she literally said to him the words "seduce me". If you don't remember this from the show, it's not my fault your capacity for memorization of simple facts is shit. I'll think what i want to think about both real life, as well as all fictional portrayals of Anne Boleyn. If you disagree, well, by all means: Cry me a river! Toodles! 😉😊
@@ineffablegabe Oh come on, even in the show she was reluctant. They outwardly show that she seduced the king because her family told her to do that and she couldn't really refuse it. In the show they made her fall in love with Henry, was it like that in real life? We'll never know.
@@Hjalmar_an_Craite Why is Jane any better than Anne? She also seduced a married man and they didn't bat an eye when he killed his current wife to marry her?
After taking everything from Katherine and ruining her life, humiliating challenging her over HER own husband Anne STILL had the audacity to be angry for HER MAKING HER LIFELONG HUSBAND SHIRTS. WTF is wrong with this evil woman!
Yep, pretty much a classic "men are from mars, women are from venus" moment. Henry likely just wanted the shirts he knew and liked and saw no reason why Katherine shouldn't continue making them as she knew his measurements and preferred styles. Anne, on the other hand, sees the shirts as an acknowledgement of Katherine' status as queen, as making the king's shirts was part of the queen's wifely duties.
She didn’t, as soon as Henry made Catherine stop making him shirts, he expected Anne to make them instead since she was the reason Catherine had to stop, but she just ordered a tailor in London to make them for the King and send them to court.
@@sirenia1241 Actually, he didn't marry the handmaids, just slept with them. Rachel was just as culpable there, as she actually gave her handmaids (as slaves, they were considered property) to Jacob and told him to have sex with them.
"There can't be three people in a marriage!" You should've said that before you came onto Henry lmao! The audacity, can she please remember that Henry and Katherine were married for 24 years before Anne came and as you know, SHE was the mistress, SHE was the third person in the relationship.
@@elizabethmcleod246 Anne could've told him she was no virgin and was in love with another. Instead, she returned that love, acted as if she wasn't in love with a man for the means of power. How was Henry supposed to know?
@@namelesswriter3892 No one could reject Henry on fear of death. No pious women would reveal she was no longer a virgin in those days. It could ruin any chance of a future marriage. Anne got stuck. Her Father and Uncle manipulated her as well. Not providing Henry a son was her downfall and that was not her fault.
@@elizabethmcleod246 That is not true, since she was engaged to Henry Percy if she had told the king that her marriage was consummated the marriage between her and Henry Percy could've continued. But she left Henry Percy, listened to her father and went after the king. And many women rejected the king because they were married, he can't just kill you, he'd go after someone else.
@@elizabethmcleod246 I do not know if my comment was sent to you but let me just say, She was married to Henry Percy so she could've easily said she consummated it. Instead, she lied about being a virgin, although being married for POWER. And you saying that she "was pressured by her family" If it's wrong then you shouldn't do it! People have all sorts of family doesn't mean you don't have personal morals. She clearly thought she was something when she wrote in her personal bible "the time will come, I Anne Boleyn." Yes, the time will come when you're horridly humiliated.
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Just in case anybody is confused about why Anne was upset about Henry's shirts, here's an explanation: Making some thing for someone, and spending time and energy creating it splendidly is an intimate action. And Henry wearing them is an action acceptance of that intimacy. That's why Anne was mad.
Not only that, but making the King's shirts was considered to be one of the wifely duties of the Queen. By continuing to let Katherine carry on sewing his shirts Henry was basically acknowledging her as his wife. Or at least that's how Anne saw it. Henry likely just saw it as convenient to let Katherine do it as she was an excellent seamstress and embroiderer and knew his measurements and what he liked.
She ruined a marriage , she could have let Katherine get some comfort by atleast making shirts
Taking everything away from her so brutally is what killed her mercilessly
sweet spicy Or Katherine could have accepted that her husband wanted a divorce, thereby eliminating the situation coming up in the first place.
@@Mel-jy4kc He didn't just want a divorce, he wanted an annulment; that's an entirely different thing. Out of the five rather unfortunate women who suffered being married to him (I leave Anna von Kleve out of the group, since she was the only lucky one right after her divorce from him), Catalina ended up being, by far, the one who endured the most miserable outcome, beyond any doubt. Her love-and-then-heartbreak story with him is, to this day, among the most devastating ones of all time.
May Catalina, the true Queen of England, rest in peace. 💔
Kokiri Emerald Either way the marriage was over and she needed to accept it. She was also not the one true queen. Once her marriage was annulled she was single, making Anne Boleyn the true queen until her death. Also, getting unfairly executed makes Anne Boleyn the one with the most miserable outcome.
"Three people in a marriage"... It seems always the case with Henry.
*****
Haha! right!
There was just one, the top gets everything that’s why the other two though copied still couldn’t make it anywhere... failed so hard all the times
More like 8😂😂😂
Serial cheater
TimeNeverSleeps1090--It's not just Henry. It's men, in general, who perceive themselves to be "alpha males" , whether by rank, or lucking out in the gene pool, or just in their own imagination. Nor is the phenomenon relegated solely to males. Alpha females exhibit those traits as well, using men to climb the social ladder or just to push aside a woman they view as lesser to them in looks, social class, or their own point of view.
Natalie Dormer played this role excellently
Definitely. She stole the show.
She was perfection.
No one else could have done it. Not this brilliantly
rayanne liu She was great in Game of Thrones as well.
@Nenethegreat W Actually, I liked Anne in The Tudors a lot more.
"I've got more important things to think about than my shirts!"
next scene:
"Catherine, you've gotta stop making my shirts"
brooklynbuglet 😂😂😂I just about died
brooklynbuglet love it haha
The dramatic little spin before he said it killed me lmao
Will he be shirtless from now on?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love how Henry practically shrugs it off, and then later he's like "you can't make my shirts anymore"...practically said: "you can't make my shirts anymore...Anne scares me" lol
Tbh the super quick transition between his red in the face, yelling “when will you realize I have more important things to think about than my shirts!!!!” to the soft “Catherine, you have to stop making my shirts” made me laugh out loud
Wow Mary had to be a badass, and I can understand her conviction and support of her mother.
DRW1107 Mary could be badass, she knew that the King could not kill her. She was practically the only person who had that teflon.
Really? I've always thought that Mary was stupid. Henry was never going to take her mother back. She could have pretended to accept his wives and made things better for her and her mother. Mary never seemed to learn to play the hand that she was dealt. Instead she stupidly insulted Anne to her face, thereby pissing Henry off and hurting herself.
@@misspriss2482 Playing his game and admitting she was a bastard and the mother that was fighting so hard for her and her right to the throne never had a legal marriage?
Mary stuck by her guns and stood up to her tyrant father, like her mother did.
@@misspriss2482 standing up against a concubine and a cheating dad is not stupidity, it's ballsy
@@misspriss2482 it was Anne that lost her head, so guess Mary won in the end. Bet she happy to see it happen too.
It's fitting that Natalie Dormer played both Anne Boleyn and Margaery Tyrell because of how different they are. Anne (much like Cersei Lannister, ironically) never fully understood the perks of a good PR, her attempts to interfere in the matters of governance were met with haughty derision, and her behavior towards Henry after they were married did not help her case at all. By contrast, Margaery knows the game of politics like the back of her hand, perfectly understands the necessity of a good public image, and plays the meek and obedient wife flawlessly while gently--but firmly--wrapping her husband around her pretty little finger. Margaery is everything that Anne isn't.
Well I don't know about that, she did seduce or at least got Henry to divorce his previous wife of what 20 years or so and make her queen. She was apparently in charge or had some influence in bringing Protestantism in England, handpicking the bishops and clergymen. Henry made a Marques in her own right before she became queen. She was able to survive the way she did because of her astute mind and keenness in politics, that's how she won the divorce. I'd say both Anne Bolyne and Margaery were cut off from the same cloth, the only difference in unlike Joffery who one can blatently see was insane, Anne didn't know what she was getting into that or she was fooled into thinking Henry loved, which he probably did for a time, but seeing what happened to her predecessor she should have expected what happened, in my opinion it was all karma. Margeary wants to be queen for the power, and so did Anne, but I think Anne genuinely believed Henry loved which is why she couldn't just shut up and bear Henry's infidelity, what's more his waning attention to her bode ill to her because she had yet to bear a son, and her entire survival depended on that! Not to mention Margeary was lucky enough to have her wise and sassy grandmother to protect, Anne had none of that. I wouldn't say Anne was anything like Cersie, they share some alike, being puppets to their fathers but Anne's father recognized her intelligence and acknowledged it unlike Cersie. No Anne and Margeary are very alike, just one was more unlucky then the other.
Anne was a good mistress but a bad wife. Men want their mistresses to be exciting and volatile and almost out of reach. Anne was also everything Katherine was not and Henry was against Katherine because of the son issue. The family knew firsthand from the experience with Mary Boleyn that the family of the king's mistress profited so they wanted Anne next when Mary was no longer in flavour- but more long term, which she achieved through her wit, intellect and flirtatiousness and abstinence. He was besotted with her and gave her great influence over the kingdom so he could have a son. Her wish was his command. However, a wife should be humble and obedient and concerned with only woman's affairs. Once he married her he grew tired of her tantrums, especially when the lack of baby boys surfaced again. He no longer wanted her telling him what to do, that he couldn't have affairs as he had done with her and he did not want her influence in politics. Add to that that she'd made a powerful political enemy with Cromwell, she had no powerful allies abroad and she did not seem to be the type to go without a fight so he got rid of her the easiest way possible.
Anna had a fierce spirit, she would have thrown all the manners and public images of the world away if somebody tried to put her in "her" place.
She was wild and free.
Of all the characters in GoT, Margaery would be my first choice to rule.
i wouldnt really say that. I mean there is a key difference between Margaery and Anne, because Anne genuinely loved Henry so of course she was upset when he did shit like cheating while for Margaery her husbands where tools for power (she was fond of Renly and Tommen, but didn't love them). Plus while i loved Margaery she didn't play her game flawless. She openly showed her ambition towards Littlefinger and other people and not to mention even when Cersei was trying to make amends she mocked her, resulting in her arrest and eventual death
Natalie owned every scene where she had to portray strong emotions like anger or sadness. This scene, the scene where she catches Henry and Jane Seymour kissing and when she had her second miscarriage are very powerful and her acting is fantastic .
She handled the prophecy way better than I would have.
Felicia Kelley omg right? 😂 She was joyful and smiling on the way to the scaffold for her execution. She so crazy lol. 💕
Seriously lol I would have been a mess lol
@@autumnbottoms5743 The way she handled herself and her final words about King Henry were done to protect her daughter, Princess/Lady Elizabeth, in the future.
“There cant be three people in a marriage” says Anne being a mistress to Henry who was still married to Catherine
Get your facts straight. She didn't wanna sleep with him before he divorced catherine.
Trinity Gilreath it was an emotional affair, so still counted
@Trinity Gilreath exactly these people are so illiterate that they can't even comprehend that Anne was a victim like any other woman in that time.
Exactly
anne refused to sleep with him until their marriage
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Anne was really good at manipulating Henry in the beginning according this series. She played her part well to get his attention and keep it. I suspect what changed was when she fell in love with him. Its easy to play and manipulate a person if there is no attachment but that changed for Anne.
me realized that is more easy for me maniputive my boyfriend when i not so in love with him but now that i'm falling love with him is too hard
No, I think that the manipulative ways (e.g. tantrums, jealousy, her argumentative nature) that served her so well as his mistress became a major disadvantage once she was his wife. The same qualities that stimulated and excited Henry in the beginning of their relationship turned him right off her once she was queen.
@@chooseyourpoison5105 Yup, she just wasn't queen material. And I'm not saying the Queen has to be submissive, only that a queen in those times, especially one married to a narcissistic king like Henry, should at least pretend to be submissive, while being defiant always on the inside. Catherine of Aragon did so all her life. Just because she tolerated Henry's mistresses and bastard son doesn't mean she was a weakling, but I believe Anne Boleyn thought that's exactly what the queen Catherine was. Anne's own brother George in the show said to her something like, "can't you be more like Catherine?!" Anne apparently really couldn't. She simply didn't want to, didn't have the patience and common sense to. I perfectly recall her looking so genuinely confused at the mere suggestion of it from her brother. "Be like... Catherine..?" Was what she had said, in a thoroughly bewildered tone. Her false tough chick persona and ultimately worthless pride meant more to her than staying in the king's good graces. I'm not here to defend Henry, as I think he was in the end nothing but a remorseless mass murderer, but I do staunchly believe that if Anne had pretended to be submissive and meek from the start of her marriage to the end of it, then Henry wouldn't have been so pissed at her. He would certainly still blame her for not having a son, as he blamed Catherine before, and he would certainly annual his marriage to Anne, as he did his union with Catherine before, but there's a good chance that an Anne who hasn't taken every moment to defy him, piss him off, disobey him, and talk back to him, an Anne who'd even stroked Henry's ego by making herself seem inferior compared to her Lord Husband the King, and an Anne who hadn't made enemies left, right and center in court, would likely have had her marriage annuled and gotten sent for life to a nunnery, instead of getting her head whacked off, I believe. I could be wrong, but I really don't think I am.
@@ineffablegabe you are wrong, What would have been the excuse to annul the marriage with Anne?
She was doing what she was told like most females in that time. She was a pawn used by the males in her family and their allies to gain power. Most of what she said and did would have been fed to her.
I can't get over how Anne Boleyn and Mary Tudor have almost the same face and are yet the least related people...
Lol i noticed that too. They look like sisters
@@lilstrawberry6063 Sarah and Natalie should play sisters in something.
Ikr they're both pretty
Anne: She still makes your shirts. How could you let her?.................................... You can't have three people in a marriage. Why can't you see that?
Henry: And why can't you understand that I've more things to think about than my shirts!!!!!!!
Later...
Catherine, you're gonna have to stop making my shirts.
We have a "name" for men like that. Hint: P______ W______.
Lol.
Barbie life produtions Thank you.
molarmama32 No problem!
molarmama32 LMFAO, well done.
I like lady Mary she stood her ground in the scene just like her mother Katherine.
Henry: Why can't you understand that I have more important things to think about than my shirts?!
Spongebob narrator: A few hours later.
Henry: Catherine, you're gonna have to stop making my shirts.
Catherine: Why?
Henry: *Remembers Anne’s Temper* ...Just stop with the shirts.
To be perfectly honest, every scene as Anne Boleyn was perfect because Natalie Dormer was fucking amazing and in my honest opinion the best actress to have ever played her, nobody compares to Natalie's portrayal
God I love this show! Everyone was cast perfectly and Anne Bolyen is just incredible!
Best. Show. Ever
I've only seen these clips, but Anne walks around the castle like she's a runway model! Even her servants walk authentically in their costumes!
This scene really does illustrate the old "men are from mars, women are from venus" adage. From Henry's perspective, he probably just wanted the shirts that he knew and liked; he's telling the truth when he says he hadn't even thought about it. From Anne's perspective, the shirts are symbolic of the fact that Katherine was still his wife, because she is still performing wifely duties (i.e. making his clothes) for Henry. Mars / Venus.
ChooseYour Poison lol yup! Men can be so simplistic and oblivious
ChooseYour Poison Good point! 💯✔
So true. Men are so thick sometimes.
ChooseYour Poison lmao I hate how RIGHT your comment is. I understand her too well, but I see how he’s like wtf, I’m not even thinking about the damn shirts lmao
I feel like more than gender its the position they are in that plays the bigger role. Anne has alot to loose but Henry doesnt.
Every action he takes depends on his ease. But to Anne, if Henry still has feelings for his wife then her role in the relationship is questioned. As i said two VERY different positions to be in.
This is a classic example of be careful what you want because you may get it.
When he said Kathryn your going to have to stop making my shirts I died😂
Henry was caught between two stubborn wilful women. But he asked for it.......And Catherine of Aragon was not as meek and mild as many think. She was a proud Spanish princess from the most illustrious royal family in Europe and she fought her corner well when the time came. She outsmarted and undercut Henry in many ways - and in the end the Pope declared her marriage valid. She sadly did not realize that this would not bring Henry back to her. And Mary, who had blamed Anne for everything, expected she would be restored to her father and her position after Annes death.....that didn't happen either. Not for a long time. Not until she accepted her bastardy, and the king being supreme head of the church and other humiliating submissions after years of bullying by the king and his councilors. She never fully forgave her father.....there are hints in comments she has made and left for posterity.
Ikr? I do like the famous exchange where, attempting to gain an annulment after 20 years of marriage, Henry said to the Council that he had doubted the legitimacy of their marriage from the very beginning, and Katherine replied sweetly that if that were the case, then he had kept his doubts silent for a very long time. Oh, mic drop, Katherine! BOOM!
@Nenethegreat W Yes, people do stay silent a long time, but Henry wasn't one of them. Firstly, we all know that Henry wasn't the silent sort - he didn't hesitate to get rid of anyone he didn't like - heck, he got rid of Anne of Cleves so fast he puts Sonic the hedgehog to shame. Secondly, he did love Catherine for many years - he referred to her in letters as "my most dearly beloved spouse" and fought in tournaments under the banner of "Sir Loyal Heart" for her. Thirdly, how convenient for Henry that God should have caused him to have doubts about his marriage at the same time that he just happened to get the hots for Anne Boleyn. It's rather odd how "God's will" and the King's horniness seemed to be one and the same - how very obliging of Him.
Natalie dormer played Anne Boleyn perfectly
I love how he isn't even looking just hears the door get flung open, and he knows its Anne.
god natalie dormer is such an incredible actress
Such a great scene between JRM and Natalie about the shirts. Well done!!!
three people in a marriage always the case with royals .... remember diana
yet they blame her husband
I will always dislike camilla for that. Couldn't leave Charles and Diana alone to try and work it out
ThankYou For Everything OOP
At least in that case people don't idealize the adulterers like they do with Anne, going as far as making her blue eyed and giving Katherine black eyes and eyes since they're traditionally 'sinister' traits.
Well just glad the queen has gottin w the times and both grandsons were able to marry who they truly 💘☺
I like how many of her roles consist of not only beauty but also intelligence. Margaery and Anne forever ❤️
Natalie Dormer is the best in this role. Become,look,manner,gait. What is one look in which all Anna's feelings are read. And gait is something! Majestic,beautiful and so confident. And what a beautiful Natalie! Facial features of a real queen. Fatal woman and legendary queen. Her facial expressions are a separate kind of art. Laughter,the way she cries inimitably! What beautiful dresses in this series,but they would not have ventured on anyone but Dormer. The way she transmitted the mother's pain is impossible to repeat. How she played the torments of her most loving wife... In general,the career was a succes. Natalie has long been remembered by many as Anne Boleyn!
she was very subtle, clever and sly. But at the start she was insecure in case Henry went back to Catherine or fell for another. She then became secure and was excited when she was pregnant for a son but when it was a daughter and she couldn't give a son, she began to become insecure then panicked when Henry fell for Jane. That and they made the series OTT so we'd find it more exciting. Still love her though
Excellent production ,,got the whole series in 7 dvds /one whole case at target for 24.99. great deal i watched a fews episodes over and over Anne Boylen my favorite one.
The costumes and sets in this were rich and authentic looking.
the blue outfit in the beginning is probably one of if not my most favorite outfit of hers in the series 💓
Before Game of Thrones, there was The Tudors.
I can't believe I just found out.
In my defense it came out when I was 11.
@@sabrinac8453
Definitely watch it, and trust me, the last season doesn't suck. :)
@@molasorrosalom4846 I will!!!
I'm excited😂
Everytime I see the first scene I laugh😭it's too hilarious "Catherine you gotta stop making my shirts" 😭😭😭😭
" I have more things to think about than my SHIRTS!!!!!!!!"
1:38
Her or me,chum don't wanna be some girl in a treesome,are you blind?
oooh~ dont be bitter~
@@luna_eclipse825 Ooh, 'cause I'm fitter
Ooh, why hasn't it hit her?
HE DoEsNt WaNna BaNg YoU
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Uh oh here we go
Sam Ham your comment went viral
Mary and Ann looks so similar :O
The few times I was on Bloody Mary's side!!
Want to read more about Russia's last tsazar nicholas
Am I the only one who thinks that they should sequel the Tudors? Edwards reign was loaded with material short as it was, I would be interested just because it is one of the most under dramatized chapters in the Tudor dynasty. Not to mention marry the first, she was a lot more than just a villain for Elizabeth to overcome. And also Elizabeth herself, her reign did more than defeat the Spanish and execute Mary Queen of Scots.
Yes! A sequel about Edwards reign would be AWESOME.
This show left out where history says Anne would slap Mary whenever she said she was a true princess
That's some terrifying foresight with those cards. They predicted Anne would have her head cut off and what happened people? She had her head cut off
Mary had courage , I'll say that for her ..
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courage
She had royal blood in both sides and I think it was her grandmother, from her mother side, who took the Spanish throne.
We love The Tudors. Everybody should watch it.
"You cant have three people in a marriage!"
Right.... so what were you before you married the king?"
His victim, just like every other woman that Henry set his eye on. No one could tell him no.
@@misspriss2482 Exactly lol. Saying no to King Henry VIII, you might as well sign your own death warrant at that point lol.
@@misspriss2482 stop lying. Anne schemed to get H8. She was HARDLY a victim. She was a hypocrite. Only feminuts think of AB as a "victim". Of course feminuts think of ALL women as poor "victims" of big bad scary men 🤣🤣🤣
@@cannapatient4209 AB wanted H8 as much as he wanted her. Wake up. She got exactly what she deserved.
@@trawlins396 you're a weirdo. don't get me wrong, anne was very much so not in the right in some scenarios of her life and relationship with the king, but she did not deserve to get beheaded nor emotionally abused by that egg Henry. henry was a terrible king
"A shirt" is a totally different thing back then. It was like underwear; it was seldom taken off. People did not bathe as often then, and did not have many outfits. A king still wore a smock and a queen still wore a shift under her rich gowns.
Natalie former as Anne boylen . WOW !!!
Has anyone noticed that Bess started to cry when Mary leaves the room?? Was that (intentional?)??
Of course it was. Maybe it was even dubbed with a crying Baby voice afterwards. It helps to set the mood at the end of the scene and makes it more dramatic.
I think the same
Mary was such a boss here lmaoo
"There are three people in this marriage" Anne speaks like Dianna 😂
Funniest scene in the whole show in my opinion
Anne was a very, very modern woman in her values years before her time. Hot headed and with a need to be heard, married to a man whose gender and crown meant no voice was allowed to be louder and no opinion was worth more. They were never in love with one another, they were in lust. Henry loved the idea of what she could give him, but when her voice became too loud and that idea seemed to fade with every loss they shared, he'd had enough. And when the King of England has enough, heads roll. Was Anne a perfect woman? No. But the men in her life were the reason she met the fate she did, her father and the King demanded too much and valued nothing about her but what they could get from her.
Henry always had three people in his marriages
Yes, a wife, a mistress and his tiny little carrot.
anne should have acted more like Margaery, more subtle, clever, and manipulative
Alice Graham it won't be logical for a woman as clever as margaery got her head cut off by her own husband and hated by the ppl
Alice Graham anne was manipulative but when she finally got with Henry. She didn't exactly understand how to keep her throne. It's easier to get it but harder to keep it.
Jessica Laffin I feel like she could have just been divorced instead of beheaded if after her marriage to Henry, she played the role of a submissive and obedient wife. Because her attitude wouldn’t have work Henry out-simply the lack of sons. He’d probably have let her off easier then
@@Moriartart she was accused of false accusation.
The only thing Anne did wrong was not get a child. Plus its no wonder Anne gets so angry and pasionate and Margaery not. Anne genuinely loved Henry so of course she was upset when he did shit like cheating while for Margaery her husbands where tools for power (she was fond of Renly and Tommen, but didn't love them)
Notice the way Anne dismisses Mary with just her eyes, so that only the two of them know. She really is trying to be kind, but Mary's not having any of it. Stubborn, stubborn girl. With good reason, of course.
Best movie of all time Jonathan Rhys Myers as King on point he killed it
@TheAndreagon29 A woman making shirts for a man was an act of marriage. Wife+Husband=Shirts. lol
I love this video and Anne Boleyn. I always laugh at the shirt scene. I don't know why
There can't be 3 people in a marriage... says the literal 3rd person in someone's marriage. 😆😂🤣
no one
anne and henry: SHIRTS
I loved AB in this series, most of all because she was the only one of Henry's wives who stood up to him and didn't constantly press her lips to his ass every time he had a tantrum when he wasn't getting his way.
Hmm . . Katherine of Aragon, while outwardly a submissive wife, was Henry's intellectual equal and outsmarted him plenty of times. In real life, during the King's Great Matter, there was an exchange between Henry and Anne where Anne snapped "Did I not advise you not to argue with her Majesty, for she were sure to win?"
Season two was the best I think
What's it called please
Sarah x The Tudors
Agreed
Mary was the Queen of savagery
I’m really annoyed I never watched this when it was on. I watched The Other Boleyn Girl and fell in love with this whole story. A tv series would have been so exciting for me.
It’s never too late.
If you have Netflix, the series is on there....
@@tcass7184 Do you know anywhere else someone could watch it if they didn’t have Netflix?
@@adolphaselrah9506 it's free on All 4 at the moment
1:06
Henry's 'What' is perfect lol
I was so sad when they killed her... she was my favorite...
Well thats what happened in real life
rosie grey I know, it just sucked
the show definitely became less interesting when she wasn’t in it anymore.
Anne Boleyn is my favourite queen and the true love of Harry
She was a harlot.
Thing is, she WAS. They make things dramatic on television but in real life? She was SO subtle. Subtle and clever and sneaky and gorgeous.
In The Tudors she was quite cunning and subtle at first, but then she made the mistake of falling for him and allowed her emotion to get the better of her. I might have been something like that in real life. Maybe no falling for him, but after realising the power she held over him, the power he gave her, it went to her head... and she forgot how easily she could be taken down.
@phantomwaltz I think she got too comfortable and thought that since the king loved her, she could pretty much say and do whatever she wants.
It's kind of creepy how that book of prophecy was so accurate
Sarah Bolger was also excellent as Mary Tudor ❤
I fell in love with Natalie D.. she is excellent..
Natalie Dormer AKA Anne Boleyn is so beautiful💚
The scene with Anne and Elizabeth 💚
So funny. He has more important things to think about than his shirts. This shows how a regular mistress would behave.
Anne: You can’t have three people in a marriage!!!
Henry:
Anne:
Henry: Okay, bet.
that's basically how kings had marriages then
Anne does give me Scorpio and I love it
Henry and Anne have a similar character. they were meant and deserve for each other.. KoA, Jane, or any other wives are too kind and good to be his wife
Agreed. Both were self centered psychotic assholes who deserved each other, alongside being deserving of worse than they got.
I'm sure, in a modern au, Jane Seymour, Catherine of Aragon, Catherine Parr, Catherine Howard and especially Anne of Cleves, wouldn't give Henry 8 the time of the day - but Anne Boleyn, I'm certain, would be the only idiot who would fall hook, line and sinker for Henry's woe-is-my-married/love-life tales. Their relationship, just like in the show, would be a loop of back and forth narcissism-enriching feedback.
@@ineffablegabe Godamn! Did you really think the real Anne Boleyn wanted to be with Henry??? Not after what he did to her sister. She even had to leave her job/court to escape him but he still chased her. He probably thought she was playing "hard to get" but she wasn't. She was basically coerced into being his lover. Sure, over time she probably did come to love him but she had no choice. Remember, if she told the KING she didn't love him straight up, then there would be horrible consequences for her family. Also, take off your 21st century glasses for a second. This show is for entertainment purposes only. It's not 100 percent accurate. Reality was a bit more complicated.
@@isidroguevara4120 first of all, we are discussing the show here, it's your fault for assuming I was talking of the real life people, while I was only referring to their show counterparts. In this show, Anne Boleyn did willingly come to court with the intention of seducing Henry, her downfall was that she got seduced in turn. But, show! Anne Boleyn only has herself to blame for that, considering she literally spoke the words "seduce me" over and over to Henry. There was no Henry forcing Anne Boleyn into a relationship with him in the show. Henry in the show never once stalked her, only chased her like the lust struck idiot dog he was, when, again, she literally said to him the words "seduce me". If you don't remember this from the show, it's not my fault your capacity for memorization of simple facts is shit. I'll think what i want to think about both real life, as well as all fictional portrayals of Anne Boleyn. If you disagree, well, by all means: Cry me a river! Toodles! 😉😊
@@ineffablegabe Oh come on, even in the show she was reluctant. They outwardly show that she seduced the king because her family told her to do that and she couldn't really refuse it. In the show they made her fall in love with Henry, was it like that in real life? We'll never know.
@@Hjalmar_an_Craite Why is Jane any better than Anne? She also seduced a married man and they didn't bat an eye when he killed his current wife to marry her?
Seems like Diana had the same issue....
Maybe Henry xviii reincarnated to be Prince Charles.
The shirts argument mever gets old to watch ever
O sotaque da Natalie é maravilhoso,ela é inglesa!!
jajaja thanks, im glad you liked it
long live queen catherine of aragon
Why couldn't she have told henry about the prophecy.
would've been killed earlier for witchcraft
I can't get over how similar Natalie Dormer (Anne) and Sarah Bolger (Mary) looks in this series
I need to get my dvd series out and watch again.
You still have a DVD player? I hate clutter.
The foreshadowing 😮 @2:09
0:49 to 1:48 anne's obssesion for henry and his shirts 😂😂
Love the Tudors and Anne!
Lol. I remember this, when she was mad about the shirts
After taking everything from Katherine and ruining her life, humiliating challenging her over HER own husband Anne STILL had the audacity to be angry for HER MAKING HER LIFELONG HUSBAND SHIRTS. WTF is wrong with this evil woman!
Where can I watch this show though, I’ve looked everywhere.
I'm sure no Queen would be stomping around like that.
'i haven't even thought about it'......'they're just shirts, for gods sake'..........'I don't understand' ...such a bloke.
Yep, pretty much a classic "men are from mars, women are from venus" moment. Henry likely just wanted the shirts he knew and liked and saw no reason why Katherine shouldn't continue making them as she knew his measurements and preferred styles. Anne, on the other hand, sees the shirts as an acknowledgement of Katherine' status as queen, as making the king's shirts was part of the queen's wifely duties.
" You can't have three people in a marriage"--- echoed by Lady Diana 4 centuries later. She ended up dead too.
Her jealousy is off the rockets
Catherine gave him 24 years, cared for him. Anne acted like a child, partying and flirting. Doubt she ever made 1 shirt for him.
She didn’t, as soon as Henry made Catherine stop making him shirts, he expected Anne to make them instead since she was the reason Catherine had to stop, but she just ordered a tailor in London to make them for the King and send them to court.
@@consueloj.773 lol imagine if she was just lousy at making shirts lmao
Like "fuck I can't present this crap to the king" god bless.
That "three people in a marriage" line is so poignant because Princess Diana said something similar in an interview almost 500 years later!
There can't be three people in a marriage,
Jacob hold my wine cup
it was his father in law's fault and he married his wife's hand maids too.
@@sirenia1241 Actually, he didn't marry the handmaids, just slept with them. Rachel was just as culpable there, as she actually gave her handmaids (as slaves, they were considered property) to Jacob and told him to have sex with them.
"There can't be three people in a marriage!" You should've said that before you came onto Henry lmao! The audacity, can she please remember that Henry and Katherine were married for 24 years before Anne came and as you know, SHE was the mistress, SHE was the third person in the relationship.
Henry chased Anne. She was in love with another man. Don’t blame Anne.
@@elizabethmcleod246 Anne could've told him she was no virgin and was in love with another. Instead, she returned that love, acted as if she wasn't in love with a man for the means of power. How was Henry supposed to know?
@@namelesswriter3892 No one could reject Henry on fear of death.
No pious women would reveal she was no longer a virgin in those days. It could ruin any chance of a future marriage.
Anne got stuck. Her Father and Uncle manipulated her as well.
Not providing Henry a son was her downfall and that was not her fault.
@@elizabethmcleod246 That is not true, since she was engaged to Henry Percy if she had told the king that her marriage was consummated the marriage between her and Henry Percy could've continued. But she left Henry Percy, listened to her father and went after the king. And many women rejected the king because they were married, he can't just kill you, he'd go after someone else.
@@elizabethmcleod246 I do not know if my comment was sent to you but let me just say, She was married to Henry Percy so she could've easily said she consummated it. Instead, she lied about being a virgin, although being married for POWER. And you saying that she "was pressured by her family" If it's wrong then you shouldn't do it! People have all sorts of family doesn't mean you don't have personal morals. She clearly thought she was something when she wrote in her personal bible "the time will come, I Anne Boleyn." Yes, the time will come when you're horridly humiliated.