I just hope that they don't keep increasing the difficulty, the monthly challenges are getting more and more difficult, and I can't even beat Jinstuu META.
@@LookIntoGamingday one player here, i was never able to beat the most dificult one, its insane, i destroyed the top siren on hard with just 2 floats yesterday, STOP, THIS IS INSANE
You're welcome, and I'm glad to hear it helped! Helena is one of the most difficult bosses, mostly because you have to figure out the strategy to beat her, and that's why I made this guide!
Thank you! I didn’t consider a complete 3 CV back line. I used a hybrid of NJ with Implacable and Yorktown. Also I appreciate how you narrated; most play throughs don’t.
I tried this boss and this is the first time I actually want to phaking "oof myself" because of the rage (ran out of time like 4-5 times I can't remember, but finally beat her at sep29th), other hardmode EXes didn't made me rage that much (maybe cuz this is one of the rare times I actually have to use a guide for Azur Lane) Edit: I actually had to make a change to the vanguard fleet, replacing Shimakaze with Plymouth for extra chances of Helena popping off cannon defense and because she's tankier than DDs
No matter what I tried 20% short on damage EDIT: Okay after reviewing my setup, I realized that I made a very stupid mistake. Me-155 instead of Bf-109. Counting to 4 after each gun defense activation helped as well (probably)
I copied your build for the most part but I had to swap in AvPs Me-109s since I didn't have enough HVARs to fit everyone and I swapped Aquila out for Chkalov armed with her signature DBs. I barely finished the fight but I finished it.
Potentially. Sadly, this is the only fleet I could find that worked well, I tried a HE battleship fleet with torpedo-heavy destroyers to trigger torpedo protection, but the battleships did so little damage, I don't think it could work.
Pretty sure you need your carriers to launch at around 20 seconds. Sadly I don't have much carrier tech and so my carriers are launching at around 22 seconds or so. I've been playing it on auto battle and the closest I got was down to 18 bars. At some point the protection from the enemy gets caught up with my carrier strikes and she gains aircraft protection for multiple minutes until it gets far enough away to where she regains the cannon protection from my vanguard but that's too late at that point. I've been using YT2, Enty, Implacable. My backline is basically as synced as it can be but I just can't launch fast enough.
@@Nicolas_Cage_Bees I changed my vanguard to An Shan, Chang Chun and Aurora (Seems like Aurora is mandatory to ppl with low tech) and timed my airstrikes to not give Helena aviation buff and managed to reach 3 bars left.
@@Star-ns9rp I just tried a manual BB fleet and did a little better, down to 13 health bars but still nowhere near enough. I have no clue how I'm going to do this one. I might not be able to. And I even found out I actually have more carrier tech than I thought at +13 reload but it's still not enough for me. My carriers don't reload fast enough for me to sync with Helena the whole fight so there's no point in using her. I might try using your method but I find that Aurora just dies if I don't have a dedicated tank like Agir, Plymouth, or Anchorage.
Both the extreme challenge mode and META bosses get more difficult each month, which makes the fights both more fun and more annoying to figure out and beat.
The carrier fleet is the best way to beat her, but if you can't beat the battle, try a fleet with the DDGs (An Shan, Chang Chun) with pure oxygen torpedoes for 20s rocket reloads. Aurora is another good vanguard pick. You can also try carriers in the main fleet, but if you can adapt her damage to anything besides shelling, a battleship main fleet is really good (Bismarck Zwei, Ulrich Von Hutten, and Vanguard work the best with HE guns).
Thank you a lot for making this guide :D I had a synced CV fleet from another guide but still run short of time on auto. Only until I watch your video I realized the detection mechanism and beat the challenge.
Thanks. Had too many problems with the carrier fleet and thought I wasn't gonna get this. Until you showed me that Sirius could stack with Kazagumo... Went from always behind the timer by under a minute to over 2 minutes to spare lmao
I also replaced her with Enterprise for the Jintsuu META fight. So far this has not been the hardest challenge mode, but it required the most strategy.
Yes, I did have fleet tech on for the battle. And thank you for mentioning this, I should probably say that I have fleet tech on in future guides, I just forget it exists sometimes.
Normal mode can be beat with other fleets (even battleships) with brute force, you just need higher level ships. But sadly, the extreme challenge mode is meant mostly for late game players, so a huge portion of the player base can't beat it.
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Even as a day 1 player, this fight was tough.
I just hope that they don't keep increasing the difficulty, the monthly challenges are getting more and more difficult, and I can't even beat Jinstuu META.
@@LookIntoGamingday one player here, i was never able to beat the most dificult one, its insane, i destroyed the top siren on hard with just 2 floats yesterday, STOP, THIS IS INSANE
Thanks for the guide man, couldn't beat her without it (am bad without guides). Oh god Helena took so long lol!
You're welcome, and I'm glad to hear it helped! Helena is one of the most difficult bosses, mostly because you have to figure out the strategy to beat her, and that's why I made this guide!
OMG I didn't know one of my Guildmates was a UA-camr! insta subscribe, looking forward to more of your content.
Thank you! I keep meaning to link one of my videos sometime, but despite how it seems on my channel, I have crippling social anxiety.
Thank you! I didn’t consider a complete 3 CV back line. I used a hybrid of NJ with Implacable and Yorktown. Also I appreciate how you narrated; most play throughs don’t.
Glad to hear that it helped! and thank you!
Hey man thanks for making this guide finally beat the stage from watching this video also I used avp instead of aquilla
Glad to hear one of my crazy ideas worked for someone else!
Thank you! AVP was the move for me as well!
I tried this boss and this is the first time I actually want to phaking "oof myself" because of the rage (ran out of time like 4-5 times I can't remember, but finally beat her at sep29th), other hardmode EXes didn't made me rage that much (maybe cuz this is one of the rare times I actually have to use a guide for Azur Lane)
Edit: I actually had to make a change to the vanguard fleet, replacing Shimakaze with Plymouth for extra chances of Helena popping off cannon defense and because she's tankier than DDs
Bro i'm level 147 and couldn't finishes the thing😂
I am level 141 and get by all these challenges and ex stages by the skin of my teeth.
No matter what I tried 20% short on damage
EDIT: Okay after reviewing my setup, I realized that I made a very stupid mistake. Me-155 instead of Bf-109.
Counting to 4 after each gun defense activation helped as well (probably)
Just wondering, did you manage to beat the boss?
@@LookIntoGaming Yeah, had like 25 seconds left.
Thank you !!! now I can rest peacefully until another month.
Exactly what I think when I post these videos.
I copied your build for the most part but I had to swap in AvPs Me-109s since I didn't have enough HVARs to fit everyone and I swapped Aquila out for Chkalov armed with her signature DBs. I barely finished the fight but I finished it.
Well I'm glad to hear that other ships I recommend actually work!
Didn't work, 40-35 bars left with 120-125 ships and level 10-13 gear. Probably need A BUNCH of carrier tech.
Potentially. Sadly, this is the only fleet I could find that worked well, I tried a HE battleship fleet with torpedo-heavy destroyers to trigger torpedo protection, but the battleships did so little damage, I don't think it could work.
Pretty sure you need your carriers to launch at around 20 seconds. Sadly I don't have much carrier tech and so my carriers are launching at around 22 seconds or so. I've been playing it on auto battle and the closest I got was down to 18 bars. At some point the protection from the enemy gets caught up with my carrier strikes and she gains aircraft protection for multiple minutes until it gets far enough away to where she regains the cannon protection from my vanguard but that's too late at that point. I've been using YT2, Enty, Implacable. My backline is basically as synced as it can be but I just can't launch fast enough.
@@Nicolas_Cage_Bees I changed my vanguard to An Shan, Chang Chun and Aurora (Seems like Aurora is mandatory to ppl with low tech) and timed my airstrikes to not give Helena aviation buff and managed to reach 3 bars left.
@@Star-ns9rp I just tried a manual BB fleet and did a little better, down to 13 health bars but still nowhere near enough. I have no clue how I'm going to do this one. I might not be able to. And I even found out I actually have more carrier tech than I thought at +13 reload but it's still not enough for me. My carriers don't reload fast enough for me to sync with Helena the whole fight so there's no point in using her. I might try using your method but I find that Aurora just dies if I don't have a dedicated tank like Agir, Plymouth, or Anchorage.
yeah probably the boss is getting harder and harder each month...
Both the extreme challenge mode and META bosses get more difficult each month, which makes the fights both more fun and more annoying to figure out and beat.
really? i personally found san diego Much harder than this fight
San Deigo was more of an endurance fight, Helena took more strategy, so I found Helena to be harder to beat, but San Deigo was more annoying to beat.
@@LookIntoGamingwell said
Son of a gun just said Implace-able...
Did I say her name wrong?
... I dont HVARs. My damage output is shot
I was hoping they would be added in one of the shops sometime for players who didn't get them (or enough) from the Yorktown II event.
Doesn't help at all.
The carrier fleet is the best way to beat her, but if you can't beat the battle, try a fleet with the DDGs (An Shan, Chang Chun) with pure oxygen torpedoes for 20s rocket reloads. Aurora is another good vanguard pick. You can also try carriers in the main fleet, but if you can adapt her damage to anything besides shelling, a battleship main fleet is really good (Bismarck Zwei, Ulrich Von Hutten, and Vanguard work the best with HE guns).
Thank you a lot for making this guide :D I had a synced CV fleet from another guide but still run short of time on auto. Only until I watch your video I realized the detection mechanism and beat the challenge.
Glad to hear it helped!
Thanks for this guide! On the last day I was able to beat her on easy mode :'D
Glad to hear the guide helped!
yo this just helped me, thanks brother
Thanks. Had too many problems with the carrier fleet and thought I wasn't gonna get this. Until you showed me that Sirius could stack with Kazagumo...
Went from always behind the timer by under a minute to over 2 minutes to spare lmao
Glad to hear my guide helped! Kashino with aviation materials can also finish the ultimate carrier fleet vanguard, one of my favorite comps to use!
Trying this and replacing Aquila with Enty,i need a damned 8 minutes,this is really are a hard mode
And I use 6 airstrike at once
I feel better when those big number pop up 😂
I also replaced her with Enterprise for the Jintsuu META fight. So far this has not been the hardest challenge mode, but it required the most strategy.
Thank you I did it !!
Awesome!
Thanks for this, it was pretty close but I managed to beat her with this setup, with some slight adjustments in gear
You're welcome! I'm always glad to hear that my guides help people!
Thank you, I was really struggling with this fight but I was able to complete it ☺
Awesome! I'm glad to hear it helped!
"Implaçable" lol... thanks for the advice though
You're welcome!
Hello.
Did you toggle on the fleet tech when u did this play?
Thanks!
Yes, I did have fleet tech on for the battle. And thank you for mentioning this, I should probably say that I have fleet tech on in future guides, I just forget it exists sometimes.
@@LookIntoGaming Thanks for this.
but no have HVAR??
That's why I suggested the other planes, the Bf109 is the second best fighter, and the tenrai and su-2 are other dive bomber options
I cant beat it even in normal :'v
Normal mode can be beat with other fleets (even battleships) with brute force, you just need higher level ships. But sadly, the extreme challenge mode is meant mostly for late game players, so a huge portion of the player base can't beat it.
@@LookIntoGaming that is not the issue I have almost everything but is most a skill issue xD