What's Better? The Isle Legacy Or Evrima?
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- Discussion video on Legacy and Evrima. My reasons as to what is better in each game and why! And overall which game is more fun to play. Enjoy the video and DON'T forget to Stroke that Subscribe button!
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0:00 Intro
0:29 The Isle Payable's
3:01 Emersion
5:15 Do you feel like a Dinosaur?
7:48 Player interaction
10:48 FPS and Ping
11:20 Conclusion
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Evrima. Playing Legacy feels nice until I get into pvp and remember why I don't play it, it doesn't matter if I win or not since it's because combat in legacy is just objectively worse than Evrima.
When I last played Legacy I was a Dilo and ı killed an Allo but due to how bad combat is in that version it wasn't rewarding it was just sad.
And the whole "Legacy has more playables" arguement is invalid in my opinion because barely any of the playables have something to make them unique other than basic stat differences.
(Stomps, Jumping and Bone break, that's basically it) Like you said aswell pretty much all of Evrima's playables have something to set them apart from the others.
Evrima Dilo has it's venom mechanic, meanwhile Legacy Dilo is essentially a stronger Omni or a weaker Giga because it's size and speed is the only thing that sets them apart.
I mean I guess Legacy would be a an option for people who don't have a strong enough pc to handle Evrima but even in that case I'd say PoT is a better option than Legacy.
Yes exactly. I've always said pot is a better legacy because it's pretty much just a smooth running and looking version of legacy that actually works, with mrke mechanics on top. But Evrima is the game for me because of how it is set up and how each playable is different enough. Just hope they get on with it lol
more playables doesn nothing but divide the playerbase and make it harder to find your own species unless it adds a whole new aspect ot the gameplay i dont think it shpuld be added
What i miss more of Legacy, and i hope come back eventually in evrima, the social aspect. I like the inmersion than evrima has and that, but I miss the long calls everywhere and the shenanigans of the playerbase.
the calls and the fear of an actual apex that could one shot you is what i miss more about legacy
Yeah it is more quiet now in Evrima. Maybe once some apexes are out it will change?
@@mrghast7949 yeah I think apexes like t-rex are what's missing the most in turning evrima the default version, once t-rex and trike are ingame they should just turn it into the main branch honestly
Some people think that the legacy players will cross over to evrima once legacy gets nuked. Those players won’t likely switch over. Not because of their disdain for the isle, but because Evrima is a computer resource hog and clientside performance improvements are few and far between
I'm sure some will, but yes those with not powerful enough computers will unfortunately be lost
@@ucjgaminghopefully The Isle performs better in the future
Honestly as soon as they get rid of legacy, those players will likely jump on evrima. After that things will start to feel similar again, then they just need to get the Apex's in and it'll be like legacy 2.0
Hopefully better than, although this comment is more on the money than is a good thing! They REALLY need to work on encapsulation and good practices, because the bugs they cant seem to find for months/years, and the bugs that were "fixed" and now are back are all signs of "spaghetti code"/poor encapsulation and bad practices.... Which is why they needed to start the game over from scratch last time....
The fact that theyre facing these issues now in Evrima is >VERY< concerning.... I really hope that they learn from past mistakes because Evrima is SUCH a good game.... Under the bugs... Theyve GOT to get their practices under control.... and it seems like part of the reason they cant focus on that is perhaps ongoing disputes about vision both core and tertiary?
I really hope its better than Legacy 2 because as is, for every bug they fix, or every QOL they add, they break two other things, and have to roll back 3 other new QOL features(the queue system has been abysmal, as a for instance... AI, food in mouth bug, etc)
** Ive even seen a few elite fish in the air lately.... over water, and not UP in the sky... but noticeably in the air again :I
talking about returning bugs
Yeah we need those legacy players. And Apexs to help them want to play it, the game should definitely be further along in development by now
Its annoying the chinese players are abusive in asia!
it's never going to be legacy 2.0. the overall map layout, tropics and pacing of the game is very different. the map iself never was made for apexes in mind, I have no idea how you can move around being a rex or anything of a similar size. a lot of legacy players will just drop playin at all, either because they despise everima or can't run it
@@user-ep2nl9tg5x yeah evrims requires a better specs for your computer my gtx 1650 cant tun it lol
7:45 Im literally sitting in bush as juvi tenonto watching this lmao
Afk in the Isle watching someone not be afk in the Isle hoping that will be me one day. I do it myself 😅
I love evrima, but I dont enjoy it as much as I enjoyed legacy. Obviously i've been with legacy way longer so there is some nostalgia there but in evrima I just dont find people as often. I don't have the fear of running into someone because I feel as if nobody is actually around. And when I do run into people, I just don't get the same vibe as legacy. I still love the game tho, the movement, the graphics, everything is so much more fun but because theres no social aspect, or even travelling around and nesting with packs, I just get a bit disappointed. But, thats my personal experience on evrima. Maybe i'm just not on the right servers or meeting the right people :)
(Edit) I've made some friends to play with, and figured out the hotspots. I'm actually finding people now and its great. Still not the same vibe from legacy, but my opinion is growing more positive of evrima. Both are great and thats just my personal experience.
Yeah one of the things I miss the most is exactly what you said about traveling with others and nesting, surviving and bonding
100 Legacy is better in so many ways gameplay wise. Evrima has better graphics amd new mechanics but it's just not the Isle vibe
Thats a joke right? Legacys gameplay is bland unbalanced and boring. The combat is a joke and so is th growing aspect@@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester
@wiili22 You are in the minority in that. Yes Evrima has better graphics and different mechanics. But the game play is boring as most know. I can tell you haven't been with the Isle more then a couple years. Us who where there from the beginning know. it well. Evrima isn't the Isle. While you got new mechanics, some of them not.many actually cool pounce etc. Instead of running around focused on weird special diets, Legacy makes it simple more real. Dinosaurs Just ate they wrent picky and on diets.
Evrima doesn't have enough Dinosaurs to come close to compare to legacy to play either Boring.
Evrima also added the most Un Dino things to it. Farm animals, And (ugg) Humans.
Also all who prefer legacy will tell you Gameplay isn't the same. Doesn't even feel the same it's so far removed ts just not the Isle anymore it's a completely different game. And for most of us Legacy is way more fun. Get Dino eat drink try to survive that's the Isle.
Evrima is an ok game it's just not the Isle it's something else
I've been hearing a lot of talk about how "Envrima should have been further along by now", and I used to believe so too, until I started developing my own game. My GOD does it take so long, I started in November and I just about finished the AI and all the mechanics, as bare bones as bare bones could get, some systems are there, but they don't even do anything. After this, I started looking at other game dev logs. Ponty Pants' Punch a Bunch took YEARS to complete and it's less content packed than Envrima. His other game, A difficult game about climbing to a YEAR, and on the outside, it looks really simple! In fact, I realize now just how much work has been done for Envrima in the past 4 years. I mean they have so many animations, many mechanics that probably took weeks to get right(I'm looking at Dilo Venom) I mean, lets appreciate how much they have done, Deino Lunge, Carno Charge, things that seem really simple to the general public, but once you start actually looking at it from a game dev standpoint, it makes sense, I mean, people were complaining gateway took too long. Have you seen unreal engine terrain maker? Brutal up until now!(That's only if you want AI;)
I'm sure most of us understand at least a bit that it's not easy to make the Isle, and that it has unique mechanics which leads to unique problems which could be harder to solve and more time consuming. But regardless of this people will compare to other games and so they have a rough time scale in their head until they start feeling it's taking too long. And don't forget it's not always about how long it takes to bring in more playables or map changes, but it's mainly about when something is messed up or done badly that it makes the game not fun or even unplayable for some then it takes months to fix this, which sure it can be a hard thing to fix that may even look simple to us, but it's still a lot of time regardless of the problem so people end up complaining (like myself) or move to other games. Because at the end of the day a game is to have fun with and if you can't have fun with it then that's the main problem
@@ucjgaming Exactly, it's not about how long the update took, it's about the quality of the update. If we waited 6 months for a legacy Dilo, then I would be mad. Instead, we got a Dilo that has this amazing venom mechanic.
Great video mate 👍👍 loved it 💯❤
P.S if they don't release dibble by the end of this week I'm really gonna get pissed😑
Yeah me too. I just wanna play it already! I want to make some fun events in my server when it's out and have like an army of us, and nest and just roam the Isle 😎
1:07 legacy has also been out for 8 years now, and its code was so buggy that playables with more complex mechanics such as flyers, semi-aquatics and climbers mentioned in the video were impossible to release without breaking the game badly
Yeah I know 😅 quetz was out at one point and tribal humans
Evrima is objectively a way better game, and still {slowly] improving.
But legacy is often more fun because of social interaction.
Agreed 👍
Evrima is a lot more immersive and fun each dino is unique in it's own way and the mechanics such as diets migrations and the upcoming mutations add to the depth of the gameplay loop. Legacy however had more human intrection and I miss thay
Going into evrima after only playing pre-legacy on thenyaw (or whatever it was called) and before, the game is SO much better.
Yeah Evrima has come a long way, but I do feel it should be further along by now
I can play legacy smoothly with about 60-80 fps on but I only get 20 fps on evrima. I wish I could play it.
Yeah Evrima needs better optimization
I don’t think evrima “should be done by now” considering everything they want to add. But I do think we should be further along rn.
Yeah definitely should be further along. Like I was hoping by now we would have twice the playables and a more finished map, but here we are 😅
@@ucjgaming You have to remember they only get money in from a one time purchase. There is no DLC's like ark, no premium skins or whatnot, they can't go around slinging millions at animators and other developers
@@ausden9525 Yes I know this, but they did get a lot of money. It's not like only 1000 people bought the game ya know. Amd people still buy the game to this day. And at the end of the day it's an investment, if they do well then many more would buy the game
A few days ago I would have said Legacy, because my PC can just about play Evrima with medium settings. Now that I've explored the servers some more my opinion has shifted to Evrima, even if it does crash out in crowded areas.😢
Yeah the fatal errors recently have been a massive pain! But I am glad at least you are finding some sort of fun with it
I might be missing something(a wordplay?) but just so you know, not that it really matters(good vid otherwise/anyways) I think its immersion? (as opposed to emersion?)
Yeah you're right 😅 Shit man I thought it was immersion and then I was like nah, it's emersion.....
@@ucjgaming XD still good vid regardless!
@@tandava-089 Happy you enjoyed it 💚 I do seem to mess up spellings here and there 😄
8:50 was too funny
26th of may - still no dibble... :c
Sad times 😔
Not me watching this Video growing my troodon in South Plains rn 😂
Hope it went smoothly 😁
Evrima for sure but we need more dinos asap, so we don't keep going back to legacy to use cooler dinos XD
Very true, or other games xD
how do you switch into legacy?
Open steam / right click the Isle, open properties / betas / where you see "Evrima" on the rtop right, switch to "the Isle"
Or here is a link to my guide, there is a timestamp for switching to Evrima and back to Legacy -
ua-cam.com/video/CsEPsmHcF8w/v-deo.htmlsi=nm77P33Z8wks3a4Y
Evrima pvp is masterclass
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evrima has more to do tbh, battling is better, most fo the stuff in evrima is better then legacy, but legacy will always have a special place in my heart tbh, and legacy idk more jump scares, only jump scares u get in evrima is the deino and herra, both not to bad, but still i prefer legacy
0:05 I'll admit as a member of the Generation Z aka teenagers I have a really hard time doing this thanks for adding it in the intro lol
Lol no problem 😅
Evrima has Evrima jas better graphics and new mechanics but Legacy is Soo much more fun to play. Totally different experience. I dont consider Evrima Isle at all just a different game. SOCIAL aspect, lack of dinos, The whole feel of legacy is better for me Once Legacy Goes Im done with the Isle forever. Arch Maybe POT or something else
They're so different at this point it's not about which is better, but which experience you want to have.
I mean that's what I'm talking about lol
I like both
Legacy= Mods
Evrima= new dinosaurs
How do you play with Legacy mods?
@@ucjgaming You install them on your pak folder, they're uploaded on some discord servers.
There are also server-side mods that change some gameplay too lol
@@zateil1442 oh, thank you!
i like evrima more and i do get some nice new friends as teno, and yeah there are some bad people as you say in the game there xD. and i agree about devs beeing slow on adding new dinos to the game
Yeah Herbie gameplay in general is nice. I prefer Herbie because it's more about making friends and then watching them die horribly, and then crying about it 😅 Or nesting! But not enough Herbie's for me, really looking forward to Dibble though!
@@ucjgamingfunny enough I actually started growing a teno today after losing my sub pachy to raptors and Ive only ever fully grown a teno at most once, it was really fun and Im generally a pretty chill player, I ended up befriending a pachy at a young age after meeting some older pachies and I was kinda like its bodyguard as it was a little younger than me lol, sadly got that weird food bug that you have to safelog to fix and couldnt get back into the server, started playing again a little earlier and my tenos getting older and wiser so hopefully I’ll make it to adulthood lol! Not great at teno pvp at all but its a very smooth playable to play.
@@dtbrex08 Yeah I'm terrible at Teno. I do like the flow and play of Teno but yeah, fighting is usually me dying xD But keep practicing and you'll get there! Good luck with growing your Teno 😄
@@ucjgaming thanks!
I already prefer eveima but imo they need to bump up server sizes as the map feels empty accept for in like 2 maybe 3 areas that or make the other areas such as the south east more inviting to players. I dont go out of my way to make long term friends just cool people i run into now and then but thats my own fault but that makes it hard to find other players of the same species. That and the lack of global chat. At least give us a global species chat rather than proximity. Now when allo is released you wont be able to pull me off the game.
They have bumped up the servers in hord testing, so I presume once the dibble update is out it will also bump up the official server slots. Or you could try unofficial servers
I don't think it's correct to compare them just because it's a lot of years between them. Legacy was amazing for what it was back in the day, and its still holds its nostalgic value. One thing legacy does better is not restricting players from moving around. Theres water and food even in the most remote places on the map so you can always find people all over even if hotspots still exist. Evrima is a mess of a game tho, no grafics or improved combat can improve it
I don't think it's bad to compare them. I understand your point, however I do feel like they are stuck in a similar situation as with Evrima, and struggling to move forward even with the obvious progress that sets apart legacy and Evrima. Yes legacy was definitely the top and also only game like this at its time, and it was great! Not shitting on it just pointing stuff out and I hope for a brighter future for this game
@@ucjgaming nono, right now Evrima is far superior, but they both suck for different reasons. But I guess they both got spaghetti code
@@user-ep2nl9tg5x Yeah the spaghetti code 😅 You'd think they would have done it differently with Evrima, but it seems they haven't. But then again I don't code so I can't really see how hard or easy it is, I can only compare it to other similar games that have done well with coding
I really only played Evrima, I got the game super late and saw youtube videos online about the game. While I did try legacy, the amount of rules based on how you can fight, how you can play, and restricting what should be a natural survival game makes it soooo bad. Evrima feels free, you are just trying to survive and to do so you need to find out the best way to hunt. The global chat/cross species chat was stupid, and spawned a whole generation of terrible just awful cross species grouping players (if you do it you deserve to fall and break your leg in game). For me Evrima is where ill stay, and I doubt Ill ever go back to legacy.
Yeah Evrima is the future so I'm glad you are enjoying it more than Legacy! And if you ever do choose to go back to Legacy then check out a server called "Asura" as it has no rules :)
@@ucjgaming I should check it out, I never really learned the mechanics or gameplay that legacy had to offer, but I wish I could play those legacy specific dinos. Ill check it out if I go bac k
Personally I've been watching the isle since the start. Legacy was fun in its time but after it's long years of no change its gotten boring, yes you can get nested in as non servival dinos like shant.
It doesn't offer much fun now since there's nothing new.
Evrima, has lesser dinos from the rozder currently but it is more fun, herrera has got to be the most fun dino to play compared to the legacy which is just speedy and that's it, evrima has more to offer in my opinion.
Agree, Evrima has a lot more diversity
I’ve been playing evrima lately but I’ve realised that legacy is honestly better. The way the dinosaurs move in legacy feels so much nicer like the dinosaurs move with elegance. The dinosaurs in evrima don’t move in the same way and it feels weird. Also I prefer the graphics in legacy, in evrima, you spawn in being surrounded by foliage as if you are in a documentary which also causes massive performance issues. In legacy I can actually see my dinosaur properly and they don’t move like they are on crack.
I don't know about that. Of course that's your personal preference so I can't argue with that, but I do feel like movement is better on Evrima and more realistic, and in Legacy they love like a Bus 🚌
Not to mention the graphics are clearly better in Evrima too
1:14 Dude what? You didn’t even bother counting, legacy and evrima both have 15 options to spawn in as from the faction menu . 🤦♂️ that is an outdated point
Not including the sandbox dinos which are widely used
Gonna paste this here cuz I already said it but want others to be able to see it easily if they’re interested:
I actually started growing a teno today after losing my sub pachy to raptors and Ive only ever fully grown a teno at most once, it was really fun and Im generally a pretty chill player, I ended up befriending a pachy at a young age after meeting some older pachies and I was kinda like its bodyguard as it was a little younger than me lol, sadly got that weird food bug that you have to safelog to fix and couldnt get back into the server, started playing again a little earlier and my tenos getting older and wiser so hopefully I’ll make it to adulthood lol! Not great at teno pvp at all but its a very smooth playable to play.
How did you know I was watching this while afk growing?
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Bro people gotta understand that not everyone had a monster pc.
the FPS alone ruins Evrima for me, and i like the sound design in Legacy more.
There are definitely pros and cons for both in my opinion. But at the moment I am playing a lot more Legacy due to Hord testing fatal erroring me all the time and normal Evrima is boring atm
Evrima is not a bad game, but Legacy is still superior besides of some bugs, its still too soon to tell Evrima is bad.
Great video man
I prefer Evrima personally but recently I have played more Legacy. Kinda waiting on Dibble 😅
Agreed many of us enjoy Legacy more it's just a whole different vibe
they don't shit yet lol
Maybe one day ay
Evrima!!!!!! EZ!! Evrima just lacking on the favorite dinos!
And the fatal errors 😭
legacy much better. only thing i dont like are big mix groups.
Yeah the only servers left have no rules and are basically just mix packs everywhere
not out still!
What's not out still?
Dibble
@@choci. Ah ok yeah, unfortunately not ay
I play both. 400 hours in legacy 360 in evrima. Legacy runs better for everyone, regardless of pc specs, so everyone has the chance too enjoy the game, legacy also feels more immersive, the ai sounds, the forests. Evrima feels flat, vast open spaces that should've been filled, evrima is a map for people that want to play a game, legacy is a map for gamers
Yeah it is strange that you can get more lost in legacy most of the time than in Evrima
@ucjgaming evrima is beautiful, it's where we WANT to be in terms of visuals but it's lacking SO much. There's just no depth. No feeling of being an animal trying too survive. Evrima feels like call of duty without guns, its just a toxic mess of bad players and bad coding. Fortunately legacy servers are still full capacity 24 hours a day. And more importantly, rules are always respected
Path of titans boss
That wasn't the question of the video 😢
bro wtf they dont even have T.rex on evrima. Why make a dinosaur and not include the most important dinosaur?
I mean they are making it. It's actually the next Dino coming after Diablo
@@ucjgaming they still have alot of dinos to make like
Spinosaurus
Ankylosaurus
Triceratops
Giganotosaurus
Allosaurus
and probaly more
i dont get why you would make a dinosaur world without a T.rex it should be the absolute first thing you make.
@@terraseamapping823 I mean it's about creating an eco system first, adding a t rex first would break that as you always need to build up to something and not start from the top
@@ucjgaming but the game has been out since 2015.
@@terraseamapping823 Yes but that's not what you said lol You are saying that it should have been first, and I'm replying to that. Also Evrima hasn't been out since 2015, as it's the "new" version of the game so they are doing it all from the start again. So they have to build it up from small/mid tiers first and then slowly add the Apexs. But yes they do take too long with updates
I wish they'd get rid of Legacy already, its just bogging down the game at this point and dividing up the playerbase.
I'm done with the nostalgia of Legacy, get that sh*t OUT OF HEEERE!
Agreed
Yeah even though it's nostalgia for me I do agree that it splits the player base too much, we need more on Evrima!
@@ucjgaming Not only that, but I bet it'd might make PCs run better if it didnt also have to have Legacy's coding within it as well, if it was completely gotten ridden of, It might, just might, help with all the issues with performance.
People could also play Evirma on Geforce Now if they allow it.
nah its not the time yet.
they will only shut it down once Evrima is superior to Legacy in every aspect
This will probably happen when they add the more popular dinos to Evrima (rex,trike, allo, etc), add more mechanics, and make the game less laggy
bro living inside the CPU of the server he have 9 ping🥲 i have 80+ when the server is full
Yeah thank the recent updates. I never had a problem with ping or FPS until now