Great job explaining man! Factory type R intake manifold with 70 mm throttle body will work great with your setup! Good luck man can't wait to see how it goes!
i wouldnt run a 70mm on a n/a setup. 64-68 would more like it or even the stock TB is fine. the 70mm is more for force induction because that is what im running on mine
I had a B16A Gen II with a type-r intake manifold, blox 70mm tb, ebay 4-1 headers and type-r dual valve springs with gsr cams and my car revved all the way to 9,000 and never fell off. It pulled strong all the way through.
Props for this vid! Finally someone who get's it with r/s and LSVTEC. I'm mostly keeping it OEM as well, just choosing the right Honda parts to suit the needs. Will stay tuned :)
The D series deserves more love. The longer stroke gives it much more get up and go in every day driving situations than the B series does. Of course we had the A9 and Z5 (same head but the Z has a cat) D16 engines here, they are pretty much the same thing as the ZC.
D16A9 Power : 125-129 hp (91.9-94.8 kW, 126-130 PS) at 6,800 rpm Torque : 105 lb·ft (14.5 kg/m, 143 Nm) at 5,700 rpm D16Y8 Power: 127 hp (95 kW) at 6,600 rpm Torque: 107 lb·ft (145 N·m) at 5,500 rpm Not too much between them really, I do think the A9 has more potential though.
Long time listener, first time caller here. About those valve springs: The dual valve springs that come on the intake side of B16 and GSR is the same (marked with blue paint) part #s that come on the ITR/CTR Exhaust side. The Intake side of the ITR/CTR uses a very different pair of valve springs on their intake side(marked with yellow paint). My guess is these springs are used to compensate for the higher lift and ramp rates of the ITR/CTR intake cams. Hondas are like giant legos and you can make almost any combination of parts work, but pay keen attention to the small details in the difference of part #s. Parts may look the same but a difference that you cant see with the naked eye, in this case the rates of the valve spring, can mean dropping a valve at 8600 rpms and destroying a whole longblock.
Really they are different? I guess i looked at the wrong chart. My car has a mixture of gsr and b16 inner/outer valve springs and spins up to 8400 so i can assure you its fine, but anything past that and it could get ugly....
Finally someone that knows what they are talking about. I was about to mention something about the B16 tranny, but then you covered that too. On the header if you're looking for more midrange for the track. Look into the RMF header. You might not see the power on the top end, but you don't want to be gutless. Dont just worry about the top end and horsepower. Look at getting the power where you need it based on the type of track you plan to run. Good luck.
Great job on the video. Its pretty obvious that you have a realistic goal for your build plus you seemed to have weighed out the pros and cons pretty well. I used to build cars back in the day and was usually in the same position as you, still needing it as a practical daily driver. People would say " Why not this and why not that?" There are always gonna be haters that know what you need better than you do, lol. Keep up the good work.
I have a D14 (1.4L) Civic for ten years now, and I've just built my engine, something like the poor man's Type-R...! I've fully rebuilt a B16A engine, using parts from the B16B and B18C. :)
Good vid. Back in the day the term "poor mans type R" was thrown around a lot and I didn't know what the F they were talking about but I was too scared to ask. Didn't want to look stupid lol
thats the problem with the car community these days, cant ask a question without getting roasted. but the reason you ask is to be more knowledgeable, its annoying. great vid dude. always enjoy your vids. cant wait to hear the first start up
Yeah bro people act as if they were born with knowledge and not humble at all but it is always good to ask regardless because you are trying to gain something for yourself
SeventhSoul how do u kno what parts are what like gsr block this head that intake etc..... How can I tell the difference just getting into the import world I have a jdm b20b motor
im a rwd nissan/toyota guy myself and i briefly owned a dc2 with a b18b and it was alot of fun around the corners even though it was slow lol living in vegas theres tons of cheap shells but theft is high sooooo maybe someday ill get into building a simple honda lol TLDR im a closet honda fan
Spend the extra money and get the EXEDY Sport Clutch Kit. Just my 2 cents. I love mine in my CRX. Is a little hard with a cable but you shouldnt have a problem.
Its the smart man Setup its more then likely to last you awhile. I did something similiar and had it for over 12 years. Now moving into the B16B build and building it is not exactly poor man when you add the build, pistons, retainers, ARP rod bolts , ARP Head Studs , Built B16B head and Skunk 2 Cams titnuim retainers it will be a mini Beast.
gsr cams still make good power till 8300rpm if you set the red line to 8500rpm it will make sure you get full power curve and will make sure your in the power band in the next gear.
You do not want your pistons .0020 in the block at tdc . a good engine builder usually runs .002 - .0010 over deck hgt. It ups your compression better than milling heads. Especially if your using a stock cam and no worries about valve clearence.
Make sure you buy a Hondata Heatshield intake manifold gasket for that engine!! Well worth the 40 bucks. Significantly lowers intake manifold temperatures and you'll absolutely gain power. I have one on my 98 Spec JDM ITR (: Good luck with the build buddy! Love seeing all OEM. My ITR is untouched internally for the same exact reasons you mentioned (:
Good call with the b16 intake for your set up. All the info I have seen on the b16 tranny though says it has the 4.4 final drive. It's the gsr that has slightly taller gearing. Test it by putting it in 4th and rotating the input shaft 10 times. The diff should rotate 2.05 times and that tells you it's the 4.4.
man the build your doing is great good balance in japan most togue and or circuit racers that build street cars go the way your going power in numbers is not always everything your on the right track bro
The ITR head isn't really ported it's a casting of its self. It's meant to flow 1.8 litters just like the Gsr head. So in reality the gsr head is better for a poor man itr then a b16 head. I don't believe titanium retainers wear at all. the 1st generation b16 heads came with aluminum retainers (witch by the way people confuse for titanium) so when they upgrade to after mark dual valve springs or really push the engine. The aluminum retainers fail. (They will crack/break) and that's y people believe titanium retainers wear. the b16 transmission is the best option for both boost and N/A applications! Boost lag is determined by engine rpm not by gear ratio or mph.
this the stuff i was doing about 10 years ago with my lsv crx, it had jdm b16a slugs so around roughly 11.3:1, arp rod bolts and head studs. that thing definitely had traction issues
Milton , you are awesome !!! I own a Mazda with 13 Compression Ratio , but , I have 2 friends who are GSR , Type - R owners , I must let them know about you . Great video !!!!!!!!!!!!!
That block machining does not look correct for a honda motor. It's supposed to be glass smooth, as well as the head. Or you WILL burn oil/Coolant and have a leaking head gasket.
Can you feel the machining work with your fingernail? If you can, it is not correct. Honda engines require a glass smooth head and block surface for proper head gasket sealing. Un-experianced machine shops don't know this.
i dont get why anyone would do this build. why spend the money sourcing these when you can just build your gsr or b16? i figure you could get your head machined for cheaper than you can buy a b16 head, and youll also have a potentially better performing motor.
I’m wanting to daily a project eg or project a daily which ever way you talk. Been researching the shit outta these Honda motors. It seems to get the torquey motor I want I should go K24 and put k20 head on it, I’m not sure what would be more torquey without being super expensive, definitely wanna stay NA until I can afford to buy the rotrex SC, but before that I’ll upgrade internals in block and want to throw a 4piston cylinder head on it also. What would have more torque than a k24....
Ok is there any fucking Honda related video on UA-cam that DOESN'T have a cancerous comment section? Holy shit, I've been doing this shit for almost 5 years and I'm more and more disappointed with what these people choose to say online every year ha. Like they legit think what they have to say matters lol. Great video however! I just recently got ahold of an Ek to daily drive, my first hb. I hope to produce some B series action under the hood, always been a D-series guy.
dude u know titanium is stronger then steel rite even the command base steel but good job explaining everything for those who didn't know I would at least upgrade the retainers and keepers
+Luis Viera Thanks✌ But the titanium retainers "i have heard" are thinner and lighter than the oem and stretch due to the heat causing them to potentially crack. Its not something that happens overnight though..
Maryland resident let’s goooo. I miss those old tags :( I wish they still made em man. New Maryland flag plate is ugly as shit. I’ll probably get the support the farmers tag just to be unique
Good explanations, I think you should talk a little louder or closer to the microphone and then turn the intro outro music sound levels down to match,...
I built this lastnight with my brother because we had the gsr block with no head and a b16 head no block so I made this exact same build but I’m using the oem gsr pistons but I’m okay with low comp because I’m going turbo. Will be interesting to see I think
Hey i like your videos and youre knowledgable but you can go higher compression and it be fine on pump gas if you have a bigger duration set of cams you'll be fine
wait, why in the world would you downgrade from a GSR head to a lesser B16/TypeR head? whats the only advantage of a typeR over a GSR? cams, springs and a mild port and polish, all of which will be replaced when chasing more power and the port work will be more than stock. whats the advantage of a GSR head over a B16/TypeR? quench pads, single handedly the most important part compared to all of the above combined. with quench pads, the same Compreasion ratio is achieved with less dome on the piston while also being able to have more resistance to detonation so you can either add more timing for more power or go for a little more compression. there os a reason why Dart went and mimicked a GSR head when they made their own instead of an open chamber design like a B16/TypeR
most inform response from all this so far , alot of these people just go by word of mouth , i agree gsr head has more potential for all motor or boosted , at the end of the day all motor can only go so far like 300 hp more or less always , you will need boost to make real power , these guys just dream of vtec .
Mason Brooks I'm convinced there is some sort of voodoo involved with them. Almost every stock/aftermarket I have seen, they leak. On the other hand my best local tuner/builder (LHT performance, check them out he built an AWD turbo k-swapped Insight for SEMA a few years ago) he only uses oem cam seals, even on 800 hp B18's, but he's a pro he's figured out something.
how is the rod to stroke ratio of an ls vtec motor that far off of the type r and why wouldn't you go there? the b18c5 has a rod/stroke ratio is 1.58 and the ls is 1.54... very marginal wouldn't you say?
Ya,ive raced a lot and never lost to any gsr setup in my b20v...cant go wrong with j series ! Plenty of power...just more fab work and a little less of an aftermarket base..good luck with whatever you do brotha
Miton Films even in the link it says the helms is wrong. i built a la trans with b16/itr 1-3 b16 4th LS 5th and 99/00 civic si b16 4.4 final drive. Even zeal website list the b16 with 4.4 trans.
Any thought on competition clutch stage 2 and 10ibs light flywheel , running that on my stock gsr block and so far I'm use too it and you can still leave first gear at 800rpms or lower! just an idea man, love your videos.
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Great job explaining man! Factory type R intake manifold with 70 mm throttle body will work great with your setup! Good luck man can't wait to see how it goes!
+Honda Street Garage Thanks Mark😆😎 I shall get a 70mm TB✌✌✌✌
Honda Street Garage nice seeing HSG here..learn alot from your vids man
Honda Street Garage im running a 68mm on my itr intake manifold and i was cutting it close when port matching to the hole for iacv on the IM.
i wouldnt run a 70mm on a n/a setup. 64-68 would more like it or even the stock TB is fine. the 70mm is more for force induction because that is what im running on mine
I had a B16A Gen II with a type-r intake manifold, blox 70mm tb, ebay 4-1 headers and type-r dual valve springs with gsr cams and my car revved all the way to 9,000 and never fell off. It pulled strong all the way through.
i love it when youtube videos are actually informational. great vid man
got a like for the bee swat
Props for this vid! Finally someone who get's it with r/s and LSVTEC. I'm mostly keeping it OEM as well, just choosing the right Honda parts to suit the needs. Will stay tuned :)
The D series deserves more love.
The longer stroke gives it much more get up and go in every day driving situations than the B series does.
Of course we had the A9 and Z5 (same head but the Z has a cat) D16 engines here, they are pretty much the same thing as the ZC.
hectorae86 d16y8!
I would take a d16y8 over a non vtec b series. but a b16 or gsr/type r is far superior in every aspect
D16A9
Power : 125-129 hp (91.9-94.8 kW, 126-130 PS) at 6,800 rpm
Torque : 105 lb·ft (14.5 kg/m, 143 Nm) at 5,700 rpm
D16Y8
Power: 127 hp (95 kW) at 6,600 rpm
Torque: 107 lb·ft (145 N·m) at 5,500 rpm
Not too much between them really, I do think the A9 has more potential though.
y8 has Bigger quench pads, makes a difference when turbo charged and modded
Bigger quench pads means your valves are too small :P
One if the very first videos i ever watched on the honda B series Engine. It was massively informative! Thank you
Long time listener, first time caller here. About those valve springs: The dual valve springs that come on the intake side of B16 and GSR is the same (marked with blue paint) part #s that come on the ITR/CTR Exhaust side. The Intake side of the ITR/CTR uses a very different pair of valve springs on their intake side(marked with yellow paint). My guess is these springs are used to compensate for the higher lift and ramp rates of the ITR/CTR intake cams. Hondas are like giant legos and you can make almost any combination of parts work, but pay keen attention to the small details in the difference of part #s. Parts may look the same but a difference that you cant see with the naked eye, in this case the rates of the valve spring, can mean dropping a valve at 8600 rpms and destroying a whole longblock.
Really they are different? I guess i looked at the wrong chart. My car has a mixture of gsr and b16 inner/outer valve springs and spins up to 8400 so i can assure you its fine, but anything past that and it could get ugly....
Nice man learned a lot. Oh and type r valve sprigs have yellow on them for both sides. Just for anyone wondering. Green are for gsr.
Finally someone that knows what they are talking about. I was about to mention something about the B16 tranny, but then you covered that too. On the header if you're looking for more midrange for the track. Look into the RMF header. You might not see the power on the top end, but you don't want to be gutless. Dont just worry about the top end and horsepower. Look at getting the power where you need it based on the type of track you plan to run. Good luck.
Great job on the video. Its pretty obvious that you have a realistic goal for your build plus you seemed to have weighed out the pros and cons pretty well. I used to build cars back in the day and was usually in the same position as you, still needing it as a practical daily driver. People would say " Why not this and why not that?" There are always gonna be haters that know what you need better than you do, lol. Keep up the good work.
Appreciate man!! Lowkey this is just the build i want 🙌
I have a D14 (1.4L) Civic for ten years now, and I've just built my engine, something like the poor man's Type-R...!
I've fully rebuilt a B16A engine, using parts from the B16B and B18C. :)
Good vid. Back in the day the term "poor mans type R" was thrown around a lot and I didn't know what the F they were talking about but I was too scared to ask. Didn't want to look stupid lol
+Jimmy Slapp Thats because the forums are where all the A-holes reside 😂 We all gotta start somewhere..
Miton Films I like yours vids dude. Feels more like I'm hanging out with you lol. You got me wanting to mess around with my hatch now
thats the problem with the car community these days, cant ask a question without getting roasted. but the reason you ask is to be more knowledgeable, its annoying. great vid dude. always enjoy your vids.
cant wait to hear the first start up
Yeah bro people act as if they were born with knowledge and not humble at all but it is always good to ask regardless because you are trying to gain something for yourself
SeventhSoul how do u kno what parts are what like gsr block this head that intake etc..... How can I tell the difference just getting into the import world I have a jdm b20b motor
Dude I turned it up to hear the beginning and the intro scared TF outta me 😂😂
im a rwd nissan/toyota guy myself and i briefly owned a dc2 with a b18b and it was alot of fun around the corners even though it was slow lol
living in vegas theres tons of cheap shells but theft is high
sooooo maybe someday ill get into building a simple honda lol
TLDR im a closet honda fan
"I still don't have a header yet. No s no s" lol 😂😂
USDM B16A2 head comes with duel valve spring on the intake and exhaust.
Good to see a knowledgeable brotha on UA-cam. Well executed video. Keep it goin.
Hey man thank you for making all these videos. Getting a lot of information that's going to help me and my brother build his car ! Keep it up
You're knowledge has come a long way from when you started!
+ThatGuyNamedScott. C Thats the power of the internet😃😃😃
FYI the US spec type R final drive is a 4.4....... same as the B16 final drive
a like and sub because Maryland lol. great video man.
Spend the extra money and get the EXEDY Sport Clutch Kit. Just my 2 cents. I love mine in my CRX. Is a little hard with a cable but you shouldnt have a problem.
I just picked up an Exedy Racing flywheel for only $225. Usually $400. I'm super psyched, hahaha.
Its the smart man Setup its more then likely to last you awhile. I did something similiar and had it for over 12 years. Now moving into the B16B build and building it is not exactly poor man when you add the build, pistons, retainers, ARP rod bolts , ARP Head Studs , Built B16B head and Skunk 2 Cams titnuim retainers it will be a mini Beast.
Poor man? I'd call it more a Smart man's setup! Great video!
gsr cams still make good power till 8300rpm if you set the red line to 8500rpm it will make sure you get full power curve and will make sure your in the power band in the next gear.
You do not want your pistons .0020 in the block at tdc . a good engine builder usually runs .002 - .0010 over deck hgt. It ups your compression better than milling heads. Especially if your using a stock cam and no worries about valve clearence.
Myton thankyou very much for being a brother who is import Tech I've got a integra L.S curser iam working on to get it ride Prime cruise around here
Make sure you buy a Hondata Heatshield intake manifold gasket for that engine!! Well worth the 40 bucks. Significantly lowers intake manifold temperatures and you'll absolutely gain power. I have one on my 98 Spec JDM ITR (: Good luck with the build buddy! Love seeing all OEM. My ITR is untouched internally for the same exact reasons you mentioned (:
Great job. Quality work. Welcome to Team Knight Rider
great video man keep it up glad to see the teggy build coming together
Yes valves make a difference. Your power is made in your heads.
B16s do not use a ls final drive, final drive is much much shorter than ls.
reliability! can't stress that enough do it right the first time
Great build. I wish I knew what I was doing. I wanna redo my ls but have no clue what to do. Lol.
Good call with the b16 intake for your set up. All the info I have seen on the b16 tranny though says it has the 4.4 final drive. It's the gsr that has slightly taller gearing. Test it by putting it in 4th and rotating the input shaft 10 times. The diff should rotate 2.05 times and that tells you it's the 4.4.
+Jonathan Teeter Jr. You are right. B16s have 4.4 but I have a em1 99-00 si trans which is 4.26 Final drive...
You could also check out Crower's CTR profile camshaft set. Crower designed them to be used with the oem valve springs.
man the build your doing is great good balance in japan most togue and or circuit racers that build street cars go the way your going power in numbers is not always everything your on the right track bro
That valve cover art doe!!!
TheRobShow Dats right!!!! 😎😎😎
The ITR head isn't really ported it's a casting of its self. It's meant to flow 1.8 litters just like the Gsr head. So in reality the gsr head is better for a poor man itr then a b16 head. I don't believe titanium retainers wear at all. the 1st generation b16 heads came with aluminum retainers (witch by the way people confuse for titanium) so when they upgrade to after mark dual valve springs or really push the engine. The aluminum retainers fail. (They will crack/break) and that's y people believe titanium retainers wear. the b16 transmission is the best option for both boost and N/A applications! Boost lag is determined by engine rpm not by gear ratio or mph.
Grate video man. I have been thinking of making my car ls/vtec but i gues i will go with the poor man type r.
Keep up the good work. 👌
this the stuff i was doing about 10 years ago with my lsv crx, it had jdm b16a slugs so around roughly 11.3:1, arp rod bolts and head studs. that thing definitely had traction issues
also the type r intake manifold can bolt up to the b16 head. but good info. keep up the good work.
once u skim the block/head u need to degree(dial in) the cams
literally the only think different from a type r b16 and a regular b16 is port n polish and cams.
Type r had a pnp, different cams, springs, and valves so literally the only thing that was the same was the pr3 mold that formed the cast
You can use a Ls oil pan on GSR block ....
Great video! I'm currently (but slowly) building a 96 GSR!
+Good Vibes Aidan Nicceee! Glad to hear you are building it!
when the kids need a video explaining what a poor mans type r is 😅😅😅
Milton , you are awesome !!! I own a Mazda with 13 Compression Ratio , but , I have 2 friends who are GSR , Type - R owners , I must let them know about you . Great video !!!!!!!!!!!!!
maryland represent
good work don't forget the lsd. for transmission great job
go with the oem dual piston legend gs brake calipers if you need more stopping power.
You're a smart kid. Keep it going.
when you said time attack in the future is subbed! im a european time attacker and building a kswapped Peugeot 205 xD
Not a Honda guy but awesome video!!!!
That block machining does not look correct for a honda motor. It's supposed to be glass smooth, as well as the head. Or you WILL burn oil/Coolant and have a leaking head gasket.
eriktremblay The block has been decked and the head was resurfaced.
Can you feel the machining work with your fingernail? If you can, it is not correct. Honda engines require a glass smooth head and block surface for proper head gasket sealing. Un-experianced machine shops don't know this.
You're right. If you search through some of my older vids you will see it looks like a glassy finish for both.
bruh dont kill the bees
+saul baltazar the bees must D I E !!
whatev
bees help human existence never forget that without them we wouldn't be living healthy!
+JDMLifeNZ lol very true.😎😎😎
Miton Films but you MURDER wasps. Bees are cool.
Good job, looks like fun.
Great discussion.
i dont get why anyone would do this build. why spend the money sourcing these when you can just build your gsr or b16? i figure you could get your head machined for cheaper than you can buy a b16 head, and youll also have a potentially better performing motor.
aaron moose he showed us how there was already too much material removed from his deck. No amount of machining will add material
I’m wanting to daily a project eg or project a daily which ever way you talk. Been researching the shit outta these Honda motors. It seems to get the torquey motor I want I should go K24 and put k20 head on it, I’m not sure what would be more torquey without being super expensive, definitely wanna stay NA until I can afford to buy the rotrex SC, but before that I’ll upgrade internals in block and want to throw a 4piston cylinder head on it also. What would have more torque than a k24....
I daily a jdm 98 type r trans. And it's no problem. I don't know why people say it's a pain to drive
Antman272 bruh I drove 1:౩౦ today in a CTR tranny . wasted hella gas
Really like theese channels with are showing that Honda is NOT ricer.
Ok is there any fucking Honda related video on UA-cam that DOESN'T have a cancerous comment section? Holy shit, I've been doing this shit for almost 5 years and I'm more and more disappointed with what these people choose to say online every year ha. Like they legit think what they have to say matters lol.
Great video however! I just recently got ahold of an Ek to daily drive, my first hb. I hope to produce some B series action under the hood, always been a D-series guy.
dude u know titanium is stronger then steel rite even the command base steel but good job explaining everything for those who didn't know I would at least upgrade the retainers and keepers
+Luis Viera Thanks✌ But the titanium retainers "i have heard" are thinner and lighter than the oem and stretch due to the heat causing them to potentially crack. Its not something that happens overnight though..
that valve cover have nice paint job i should get it for my k248A
My dudeee fuckkeddd that bee up😂😂😂
Well done, from australia
Because your deck hight is so low, you might want to degree your cams, props on the (header) not (headers).
i have a gsr head and block with ctr pistons been runing like that for 3 years runining strong.
+Ronnie Ramirez glad to hear all is well! Thats sounds like you have a very high CR as well😎
type r heads aren't ported, it has some minor bowl work, thats it.
Maryland resident let’s goooo. I miss those old tags :( I wish they still made em man. New Maryland flag plate is ugly as shit. I’ll probably get the support the farmers tag just to be unique
Ii got an aussie gsr (b18c2) called vtir here keen to get my fbo on for a tune. Was thinking of going b20 and found this video
Honda version of Rich Rebuilds
Good explanations, I think you should talk a little louder or closer to the microphone and then turn the intro outro music sound levels down to match,...
I built this lastnight with my brother because we had the gsr block with no head and a b16 head no block so I made this exact same build but I’m using the oem gsr pistons but I’m okay with low comp because I’m going turbo. Will be interesting to see I think
awesome videos as always
Good job man the video is verey helpful
Great job my friend!
Awesome seeing you building a B-Series. Im building an 88 civic myself. Just subscribed to your channel, keep up the great progress dude.
Richard Ojeda Thanks for subscribing😆😆😆 Old school 88 civic? nice!
Ma ningga
Hey i like your videos and youre knowledgable but you can go higher compression and it be fine on pump gas if you have a bigger duration set of cams you'll be fine
I stumbled on this video. Pretty cool☺👍I have a poor man's type r also🔰
wait, why in the world would you downgrade from a GSR head to a lesser B16/TypeR head? whats the only advantage of a typeR over a GSR? cams, springs and a mild port and polish, all of which will be replaced when chasing more power and the port work will be more than stock. whats the advantage of a GSR head over a B16/TypeR? quench pads, single handedly the most important part compared to all of the above combined. with quench pads, the same Compreasion ratio is achieved with less dome on the piston while also being able to have more resistance to detonation so you can either add more timing for more power or go for a little more compression. there os a reason why Dart went and mimicked a GSR head when they made their own instead of an open chamber design like a B16/TypeR
most inform response from all this so far , alot of these people just go by word of mouth , i agree gsr head has more potential for all motor or boosted , at the end of the day all motor can only go so far like 300 hp more or less always , you will need boost to make real power , these guys just dream of vtec .
gotta get that garage cleaned up
MIDNIGHTDRIFT Ik....its been like this for awhile now.....i will evemtually get my own garage😃
Yeo bro i love your channel keep it up
Is that OEM cam seal gonna leak eventually?
But looks good man, really jealous. My Auto RS is so slowwww.
Mason Brooks It will eventually. But it wont be for a long time.
Mason Brooks I'm convinced there is some sort of voodoo involved with them. Almost every stock/aftermarket I have seen, they leak. On the other hand my best local tuner/builder (LHT performance, check them out he built an AWD turbo k-swapped Insight for SEMA a few years ago) he only uses oem cam seals, even on 800 hp B18's, but he's a pro he's figured out something.
Replaced mine with a cheap ebay one, used plenty of RTV grey and have no leaks.
here in the philippines there's no such thing as "poorman's" when you have a DOHC engine. what more if you have "R".
isn't better to add pistol to ls block and bolt it to a typer r head . wouldn't that produce more power?
how is the rod to stroke ratio of an ls vtec motor that far off of the type r and why wouldn't you go there? the b18c5 has a rod/stroke ratio is 1.58 and the ls is 1.54... very marginal wouldn't you say?
Stuart Scott jr
Can you swap just the GSR Pistons into a B18C5? To have a higher compression stock Type R.
i like the vid man ,thumbs up
+dannyb20 vtec Thanks Danny 😃
Miton Films ever considered going b20v ?
dannyb20 vtec If i blow this engine(knock on wood) I would sell it and just buy a b20 bottom end.( If that blows im going J series)
Ya,ive raced a lot and never lost to any gsr setup in my b20v...cant go wrong with j series ! Plenty of power...just more fab work and a little less of an aftermarket base..good luck with whatever you do brotha
"No S!" lmao
Nice vid👍 needs a turbo
I've never heard of a b16 with a 4.2 ls final drive. they all came 4.4 like the gsr.
Efren mendoza www.ff-squad.com/tech/temp/Bgears.htm
Miton Films even in the link it says the helms is wrong. i built a la trans with b16/itr 1-3 b16 4th LS 5th and 99/00 civic si b16 4.4 final drive. Even zeal website list the b16 with 4.4 trans.
Soooo you saying few B16 heads only few has double valve only intake side ?? Sound like D16 D series , sound wrong to me !! But?….
Any thought on competition clutch stage 2 and 10ibs light flywheel , running that on my stock gsr block and so far I'm use too it and you can still leave first gear at 800rpms or lower! just an idea man, love your videos.
Thanks for the vid, I'm a d16 person at heart, but I got a eg hatch and I'm trying to get info on B series cause I'm doing a swap.