🗝️🧠Exercise for Working With Dissociative Identity Disorder📍🗺️
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This is an exercise for therapists working with Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) previously known as multiple personality disorder. DID is a trauma diagnosis where multiple personality structures form as protective parts during a traumatic event.
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It's not true that DID can form from adulthood traumatic experiences.
HOWEVER
This exercise is awesome, I've really struggled with placing parts in relation to each other on a system map. I will be sharing this with my therapist
Isn't audible hallucinations like in psychotic....thought disorder validate cognitive inner me ecter
Yeah that threw me too. That is not in line with anything I've heard. The line of contraversy seems to be whether DID can begin or develop as late as 7 to 9, only before age 5 or 6, or somewhere in between. But, of course, I'm not every patient or every professional. But I have heard that new alters can develop later in adulthood even, and that existing alters are often discovered or become active or overt in adulthood.
I wonder if a way of thinking about it could be that someone who develops DID aka Dissociative Identity Adaptation in childhood can develop new alters in adulthood when developmentally typical adult parts come "online?" Otherwise, I would understand it as a case of the various alters not becoming apparent or diagnosed until adulthood?
@@rev.christiebateslpcalters don’t really “come online” unless they’ve been dormant and they’re just coming back. DID is a coping mechanism. It’s meant to be discreet. People aren’t going to notice. Plus DID can’t be diagnosed until adulthood. The alters usually aren’t fully distinct until after puberty. Plus puberty can cause personality and mood changes so it can be hard to tell. (People have told me they’ve been diagnosed earlier but every mental health professional I’ve asked has told me you can’t be diagnosed until adulthood)
Also feel free (anyone) to correct me if I got anything wrong. I’m not a professional, just someone with DID who’s researched it a lot.
Sounds like a great exercise, we’ll try it right now. But it’s indeed true, that the analysis leads to change of the relative positions of parts in the system, sometimes a very rapid change. It might even feel unsettling, because if I was to describe all the parts I know to someone today, a month later that description might feel quite wrong. It makes me question it all, like maybe I’m faking it. People outside don’t change as fast as the internal parts.
@@GetTherapyBirminghamgreat advice, thank you. I also found helpful you sharing in the video and in the template description that it is common to have highly unconscious parts about which the front person would know very little. Previously I wasn't sure if I should add them to the map, I always ommited them.
Wow the first 2 minutes are as exciting as two hours of that movie with Jason Levitt and Richard Gere!
Thank you for posting this!
I'll be honest, I was going to click away once you were saying to label the alters bad or good etc. But I'm glad I stuck around to understand that what you meant was to describe their behavior as helpful or hurtful to the system. ♥️
And I love that you mentioned that "once you get to know them a bit more,you'll find you put them closer to the middle."
@@GetTherapyBirmingham I will check your website out and am looking forward to a self guided version!
Thank you for this. Being all alone in this with only one friend who helped me understand the "others", this really makes me feel a little better about the situation. Unfortunately my one friend died recently.
You are not alone. There are many of us out "here", both on UA-cam and in the real world (though many of us hide our 'condition' from the public for so many reasons.
Try to realize that "the others" were there for you when you needed them and as the Host (latest of many), I am glad to have them hold the memories, emotions, and all, so that I 'don't know about 'all of that'.
Always remember to breathe. There are many resources available and while they may seem or feel difficult to find they are there. And then, I/we, have also experienced fear of getting all better, so there was that for us.
May the sun shine enough to keep you warm, may there be enough rain so you do not thirst, and may there be only enough boulders on your path to make you strong.
Kindly, Cloud, ILLIAN, & Becky 💖
That was great 👍🏾 thanks
I live in Ft Payne and only learned of our system this past August. There is no one close to us that can help.
Look up Internal Family Systems that may help
In my own experience new alters CAN be formed also during adulthood. Even ANPs.
Yes they can, and old ones can become active, but as a whole, this starts in childhood.
Yes, new alters can form in adulthood, particularly due to re-traumatization events; however, the pathway to this occurring begins in early childhood. Once the brain learns to dissociate, form alters, and use amnesiac barriers to survive, it will default to that instinctive survival mechanism/system throughout lifetime when extreme severe stress or trauma occur.
Academics will tell you that a lot of things are the way that they are because of book says it or an expert says it and then expect you to turn off your own intuition and experience with patients.
@@GetTherapyBirmingham Very true; life in general is this way from our experience - follow the experts and don’t ask too many questions.
I (current host) have been able to identify what our system feels is true for us, and dismiss that which does not ring true. We are less than two years past Dx and having some level of self-awareness of having DID, and why/how it developed, and almost a year and a half into therapy. It is definitely challenging, and no single resource or method has been effective in itself; flexibility has proved very useful. Thank you very much for your contributions.
I'll put up a worksheet or I'll make a video about something that's been helpful to me with patients and I'll get people telling me that I'm not allowed to do it because it's wrong. It's bizarre. I believe in what's effective and I believe in experience. I don't really believe an experts. There are a lot of people who are less effective and who have less experience explaining why a piece of paper of mentorship with a certain person or some kind of training means that they are now an expert.
Is each alter who fronts supposed to do this individually?
Because we don't have an "original" or "host " or whatever it's always been at least 4 of us. It wouldn't be right for one to really claim the "me".
I have had multiple alters front at the same time, and I also know what you mean by not having an original. For us it's the alter who takes the legal name (in our case me) but my primary protector has been around since I think the age of 2, and both of us feel like we always existed.
I believe in these cases parts of the personality develop simultaneously when there is enough trauma and fragmentation in the environment.
Normally, a fronting alter is in complete control for some period of time. Experiencing say sensory perceptions but not being in control is considered co-consciousness. I have heard of people describing parts of volition being bifurcated. So different body parts, or the voice and the physical movements being under the control of different alters at the same time for short periods of time, or where control shifts back and forth quickly depending on who is more focused on control or an an action or is making more of an "effort." But a fronting alter is often not oblivious to the presence of other co-conscious alters. This is different from "being" like taking over the role of an alter as in an "alter ego." DID/OSDD alters are generally separate in terms of volition. But it can also be difficult to know who is fronting some of the time if you are co-conscious or if there is a co-conscious alter with you, or during a switch, especially a switch with co consciousness. This can be confusing. This often called blending. There is also something called passive influence, which is where the qualities of a co-conscious alter can be causing you to feel, know, think, etc. in particular ways in line with their own qualities.
I'm wondering this as well. Good question.
@@velise9649 Most of my patients don't hard switch. They maintain partial awareness of several alters. When the alters disagree on the excercise we dig into it. Sometimes they make two marks when the alters disagree.
How do you get help for did in Canada? It’s often misunderstood and misdiagnosed. Most drs don’t understand or accept it. They won’t even validate it. Also sometimes the patient is unaware or in denial
Look up ETT and Brainspotting. There are several Canadian practitioners.
Interesting! We'll give it a try.
This is very interesting thanks for posting this presentation
You are very welcome. We have much more like thius and discuss the theory about brain based medicine and depth psychology fit together. gettherapybirmingham.podbean.com/
opening is VERY loud compared to the rest of the video
I'll try again spend more time equalizing it next time thanks.