Two nice trucks for sure. And I do agree that once you get to a loaded out LT you might as well get an LTZ. However you can get some of the options that you mentioned not being able to get. The rear wheel liners are a stand alone option on LT for $140. They are also available in some packages too. The rear camera mirror is also a $540 option on LT. It does require some other packages but the Trail Boss in this video could have had it. I’d take either lol.
Just purchased 2025 LT Trail Boss 2500 6.6 gas. Everything the same on the outside as the LTZ except for no rear liners. Interior difference compared to LTZ. No leather no memory seats. Everything else pretty much the same. Negotiated price 59k.
Gm should bedline under the entire bed to offset Ford being aluminum. They offer almost nothing to combat rust. Wax coating needs to go. One salty winter and it starts to come off.
Great Job!!! I have been sitting here comparing window stickers trying to understand the actual differences besides the packages and options. Now I know.
Little bummed my LT wasn’t available with the new LED front end but I got almost every option. It didn’t make sense to spend $5k more for vented seats and HUD
It just depends on how it’s optioned. The optioned trucks in the video are so close I agree LTZ is the way to go. But my 2024 3500 LT crew cab SWR was optioned as follows: Duramax Safety package Convenience pkg I Convenience pkg II Center console Spray bed-liner Remote start pkg Power heated mirrors Multiflex tailgate Heat pkg Z71 pkg Led marker lamps With destination - $73,175 Mine did not come with leather, 5th wheel prep or running boards. But the door sticker payload was also higher at 4,015lbs. I’d rather order the truck light and get a higher payload door sticker and then add running boards aftermarket. The rear fender liner is easy to put on, one of the first things I did. Same with black out badging. The real advantage to the LT is you get the upgraded interior and can option in the multiflex, cameras, center console, etc…for low 70s…or even high 60s with discounts. This is a great option for those wanting to add aftermarket items like a lift, 37s, shocks, wheels, etc.. Why pay big money for factory tires, wheels, running boards…that you’re just going to replace.
Sure you save on sticker weight but if you're putting all those extras on aftermarket, it still comes out of your payload if you put the truck on scales. It makes absolutely no difference.
@@79randomfor me factory equipped tires, wheels, running boards, etc…will be replaced with aftermarket options. Why pay big money for factory accessories that lower your door sticker numbers and drive up the price if a buyer is just going to replace them.
@jayb7675 I get not paying for them if you're swapping them out in a finacial sense but it makes absolutely no difference on payload rating. Yes the truck would have a higher sticker if not equipped, but them you add the parts on and that added weight comes out of your payload. Those numbers mean nothing until you put the truck on a scale and that's all that matters when it comes to legality.
@@79random true, but it never fails when you go to sell the truck people look at the door sticker and rarely ask if the number has been reduced by the added accessories.
Configuring a LT and LTZ Trail Boss as equally as possible (and with rear wheel liners which are an option on the configurator) the price difference was about $5000.
Another difference is that you can't get a trail boss ltz with bench seats up front. You have to get the console. That extra seat is an option I'd want, so I'd end up optioning out an LT instead of an LTZ. And I'd go for leather in that case too. Lol.
Thank you, a couple of comments / questions. The camper loading information how does that differ from payload. Looking at truck campers, I was surprised the number was so low on a 3500. Also and generally, assume the LTZ would have higher resale value over the LT during trade in?
Thank you for this video. I’m in the market and going with the Silverado or the GMC version. I’ll definitely go with the LTZ, after having both the LTZ and the LT. It just makes more sense to me with what you get with it. Do you have any comparisons on the different trim levels on the GMC? 😊
How's the rust up there in UT? I'm from Vegas but I'm looking at an older F-350 up in Sandy that has spent it's whole life in UT, doesn't look bad but the trailer harness looked like it had some surface rust.
I live in Northern Canada. Basically once a vehicle hits 70-110k miles, it gets wholesaled down to the states and sold there. Almost every vehicle from Canada gets exposed to salt for 8 months a year. They sell them before the rust gets bad
take away the sunroof and its 6k, would get the LTZ all day and minus the Trail boss pkg....sport appearance pkg only and truck looks the same minus the tires....I could live with that and probably save another 1k.......TB on HD is strictly appearance and cosmetic.... would always pick the LTZ as I feel its a better deal.....whats a few grand when your spending 70k
Because it adds to the vehicle weight taking away from the payload, even the tires can take away or add to it depending on which ones and their payload and weight.
Unfortunately the off road package is no more than stickers.. and unfortunately huge rims where it should have 17” rims.. how about the weak transmissions?
I think a ZR2 is more a trophy truck, designed to compete with a raptor or trx. The Zr2 being a diesel and with DSSV suspension would be it unreliable as a daily driver. Also the Zr2 has a big lift and tires so the fuel economy is trash. The zr1 is better for a daily driver or a premium work truck.
Two nice trucks for sure. And I do agree that once you get to a loaded out LT you might as well get an LTZ.
However you can get some of the options that you mentioned not being able to get. The rear wheel liners are a stand alone option on LT for $140. They are also available in some packages too.
The rear camera mirror is also a $540 option on LT. It does require some other packages but the Trail Boss in this video could have had it.
I’d take either lol.
Just purchased 2025 LT Trail Boss 2500 6.6 gas. Everything the same on the outside as the LTZ except for no rear liners. Interior difference compared to LTZ. No leather no memory seats. Everything else pretty much the same. Negotiated price 59k.
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Gm should bedline under the entire bed to offset Ford being aluminum. They offer almost nothing to combat rust. Wax coating needs to go. One salty winter and it starts to come off.
Great Job!!! I have been sitting here comparing window stickers trying to understand the actual differences besides the packages and options. Now I know.
Just the review I needed! Thanks bro!
Hi JB.
EXCELLENT JOB!
It will certainly make us analyze the possibilities of our wallet!! 😮
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Little bummed my LT wasn’t available with the new LED front end but I got almost every option. It didn’t make sense to spend $5k more for vented seats and HUD
If you can find a 3500 Trail Boss with a long bed, I would love to see it.
Great Comparison !
It just depends on how it’s optioned. The optioned trucks in the video are so close I agree LTZ is the way to go. But my 2024 3500 LT crew cab SWR was optioned as follows:
Duramax
Safety package
Convenience pkg I
Convenience pkg II
Center console
Spray bed-liner
Remote start pkg
Power heated mirrors
Multiflex tailgate
Heat pkg
Z71 pkg
Led marker lamps
With destination - $73,175
Mine did not come with leather, 5th wheel prep or running boards. But the door sticker payload was also higher at 4,015lbs. I’d rather order the truck light and get a higher payload door sticker and then add running boards aftermarket. The rear fender liner is easy to put on, one of the first things I did. Same with black out badging. The real advantage to the LT is you get the upgraded interior and can option in the multiflex, cameras, center console, etc…for low 70s…or even high 60s with discounts. This is a great option for those wanting to add aftermarket items like a lift, 37s, shocks, wheels, etc.. Why pay big money for factory tires, wheels, running boards…that you’re just going to replace.
Sure you save on sticker weight but if you're putting all those extras on aftermarket, it still comes out of your payload if you put the truck on scales. It makes absolutely no difference.
@@79randomfor me factory equipped tires, wheels, running boards, etc…will be replaced with aftermarket options. Why pay big money for factory accessories that lower your door sticker numbers and drive up the price if a buyer is just going to replace them.
@jayb7675 I get not paying for them if you're swapping them out in a finacial sense but it makes absolutely no difference on payload rating. Yes the truck would have a higher sticker if not equipped, but them you add the parts on and that added weight comes out of your payload. Those numbers mean nothing until you put the truck on a scale and that's all that matters when it comes to legality.
@@79random true, but it never fails when you go to sell the truck people look at the door sticker and rarely ask if the number has been reduced by the added accessories.
Thanks JB appreciate the info, I would like to see a road test for interior noise mainly does the LTZ have different sound deadening ?
Configuring a LT and LTZ Trail Boss as equally as possible (and with rear wheel liners which are an option on the configurator) the price difference was about $5000.
Another difference is that you can't get a trail boss ltz with bench seats up front. You have to get the console. That extra seat is an option I'd want, so I'd end up optioning out an LT instead of an LTZ. And I'd go for leather in that case too. Lol.
I just ordered a HD Trail Boss LT with the rear wheel liners, Bose and the rear view mirror camera. Can’t get heads up display though.
no Bose stereo on LT 2500HD Trail boss.....only on the 1500s
was just looking at them
Thank you, a couple of comments / questions. The camper loading information how does that differ from payload. Looking at truck campers, I was surprised the number was so low on a 3500. Also and generally, assume the LTZ would have higher resale value over the LT during trade in?
Thank you for this video. I’m in the market and going with the Silverado or the GMC version. I’ll definitely go with the LTZ, after having both the LTZ and the LT. It just makes more sense to me with what you get with it. Do you have any comparisons on the different trim levels on the GMC? 😊
I just looked at a 2500 LT trailboss and it did not have the Bose system
correct, only the 1500s get them
How's the rust up there in UT? I'm from Vegas but I'm looking at an older F-350 up in Sandy that has spent it's whole life in UT, doesn't look bad but the trailer harness looked like it had some surface rust.
I live in Northern Canada. Basically once a vehicle hits 70-110k miles, it gets wholesaled down to the states and sold there. Almost every vehicle from Canada gets exposed to salt for 8 months a year. They sell them before the rust gets bad
@ does nobody wax their frame?
take away the sunroof and its 6k, would get the LTZ all day and minus the Trail boss pkg....sport appearance pkg only and truck looks the same minus the tires....I could live with that and probably save another 1k.......TB on HD is strictly appearance and cosmetic....
would always pick the LTZ as I feel its a better deal.....whats a few grand when your spending 70k
Wow thats weird how the 5th wheel package and running boards do takeaway from its payload
Because it adds to the vehicle weight taking away from the payload, even the tires can take away or add to it depending on which ones and their payload and weight.
Unfortunately the off road package is no more than stickers.. and unfortunately huge rims where it should have 17” rims.. how about the weak transmissions?
You can also get a 25000 ZR2 for low 80's.
I think a ZR2 is more a trophy truck, designed to compete with a raptor or trx. The Zr2 being a diesel and with DSSV suspension would be it unreliable as a daily driver. Also the Zr2 has a big lift and tires so the fuel economy is trash. The zr1 is better for a daily driver or a premium work truck.
How can these huge heavy duty trucks have the same tire size as the 1500s?
They have more plyd
@@leir2005 they don’t. The 1500s have 275/60/20s. The HDs are 275/65/20s. That equals about an inch difference in height.
its the ratings of the tires as well, much stiffer tire....probably an E rating
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