2500 vs 3500 Trucks - What's Really the Difference? We Compare Two Chevy Silverado HDs to Find Out

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  • We dig into the true differences between a Chevy Silverado 2500 and 3500. Are they mechanically different? Or is it just in the numbers?
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  • @TruckKing
    @TruckKing  4 місяці тому +17

    Thank for watching! Watch us compare two styles of fifth-wheel hitch on the 2024 Chevy Silverado 3500 here: ua-cam.com/video/nJfFNKxo_gU/v-deo.html

  • @jasondow2969
    @jasondow2969 4 місяці тому +85

    I really appreciate the fact that you fella’s report real heavy duty truck facts…. Not just mpg and interior seat cushions…. We buy these trucks to use ….

    • @mergenocide
      @mergenocide 4 місяці тому +6

      Yeah...real heavy duty stuff...man...where are all these crumbs coming from?..........

  • @josecalibecerra
    @josecalibecerra 4 місяці тому +43

    For a complete noob when it comes to towing this video was super helpful thank you !

  • @tikkin11
    @tikkin11 4 місяці тому +23

    Huge kudos to you guys for explaining this in understandable language. Way too many big truck and big rv reviewers don't understand the registration limitations and how those affect that door sticker. If you want to go even further into the weeds you can look at US DOT classifications and begin to realize why some owners want full capability with (on paper) a low GVWR.

  • @nathanbaylot2754
    @nathanbaylot2754 3 місяці тому +15

    THANK YOU!!! I'm a structural engineer and have been so frustrated with the internet not knowing that payload is not really capability but a legal restriction based on class. Subbed and liked for that and making it a point.

  • @averagecanadians
    @averagecanadians 4 місяці тому +18

    Great video. Just bought a 2024 2500HD and was curious how many differences there were. The number differences when it comes to towing and payload capacities are all over the place lol. I was comparing mine with the 2500 in your video. For our current RV purpose and future plans, the 2500HD is more than enough truck. We went from 2011 F150 working at about 80% capacity to 2500HD at 35%. Can't wait till camping season. Again, great videos and thanks from fellow Ontarian.

  • @andrewsharman4419
    @andrewsharman4419 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for taking the time to create this excellent educational video. I have owned both and am now far more clear over the differences!

  • @charlesnash6325
    @charlesnash6325 4 місяці тому +6

    Great video. You explained a lot about the differences of the 2 trucks. I have a 2024 2500 HD Custom. Its got all the stuff I needed. I love the truck so far.

  • @jwilcox746
    @jwilcox746 3 місяці тому +2

    Thank you guys. I've read numerous blogs, watched tons of videos... you're the first to give a clear breakdown of the differences between 2500 and 3500. Love your content!

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  3 місяці тому

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @user-ef8tr6oj9l
    @user-ef8tr6oj9l 3 місяці тому +1

    This video is absolutely awesome, not only did it answer my simple question, but it gave me more awesome information about these trucks and motivated the hell out of me about both trucks.

  • @justinclark6053
    @justinclark6053 3 місяці тому +7

    As a true truck enthusiast and a diesel mechanic, i already know this information but I enjoy your channel so much, i just watch your videos anyway!!! Thank you guys for the best truck channel on the internet!!

  • @mujjuman
    @mujjuman 4 місяці тому +2

    thank you SO MUCH for this video and explanaining the differences between 2500 HD, 3500 HD, and the 2500 HD max trailering

  • @robh063
    @robh063 4 місяці тому +31

    I went with a 2024 3500HD and traded in my 2020 2500HD to get the added payload. I tow a fairly heavy 5th wheel from NY State to Florida and back each year and I was right up against the max weights with the 2500HD. The 2500HD was more than capable but if I was ever in a wreck and an attorney decided to weigh my truck and trailer and I was over weight at all, I would be in trouble so I opted for the 3500HD. I went with the LT instead of the LTZ 3500HD because all I cared about that the LTZ offered over the LT was the LED Headlights. So I saved $3,500 U.S. on the MSRP and then bought LED bulbs for $250 and installed them myself.

    • @aksauce614
      @aksauce614 3 місяці тому

      and you dont need a cdl?

    • @robh063
      @robh063 3 місяці тому

      @@aksauce614 No, not in NY State where my permanent residence is. I do have to have Commercial License plates/Registration though which cost a little bit more than passenger vehicle plates. That was true with my 2500HD as well because they weigh more than 6,000 pounds.

    • @cristianadame4352
      @cristianadame4352 3 місяці тому

      @@robh063I have 6500 tow trucks man it’s expensive 😂

    • @robh063
      @robh063 3 місяці тому +1

      @@cristianadame4352 You have 6,500 tow trucks?

  • @slmjake
    @slmjake 4 місяці тому +14

    Love your content gents. Keep it up!

  • @aaronhoughtaling6829
    @aaronhoughtaling6829 4 місяці тому +16

    Appreciated this video. It confirmed all my suspicions over the years of purchasing trucks for myself and my business. I always go just 2500. I had an older knowledgeable sales man years ago explain the very minor difference. He told me “kid, get whatever has what you want. They’re the same otherwise” lol one of those overly simple answers that is often lost today.

    • @evocati6523
      @evocati6523 4 місяці тому +2

      But they're not the same...

    • @aaronhoughtaling6829
      @aaronhoughtaling6829 3 місяці тому

      @@evocati6523 yup, minor differences especially depending on the options the 3/4 tons have. It was a great video showing those differences.

  • @86rustbucket
    @86rustbucket 4 місяці тому +12

    Without a doubt, best video I’ve ever seen if you want to know about truck differences, but also what the different weight ratings mean, especially when it comes to licensing and registration. Nice work gentlemen. I’ve been in that boat where I bought a Ram 2500, didn’t pay attention to the fact that it only had 1900 lbs of payload, sold it after 3 years to specifically get a 3500 dually to get the payload I needed to tow a big 5th wheel. Have since stepped down to a SRW 3500 Chevy. Also nice to see that the steering column trim on your truck is crooked as well…..

    • @campnut6076
      @campnut6076 4 місяці тому +1

      Don't feel alone, I ended up doing the same thing, with lots of "constructive criticism" from my spouse. 🤣🤣

    • @nathanmedema5458
      @nathanmedema5458 2 місяці тому

      man I thought my 24 3500HD was out of alignment because the trim is crooked in mine when the wheel is strait. Only reason I havent had an alignment is because my tire guys said they cant align this new of a truck yet because of the lane assist BS they put on and Im not one that likes to let the dealership put their hands anywhere near my new vehicle.

  • @SickTheory
    @SickTheory 4 місяці тому +2

    Great video! As a GM employee i had an idea in the differnce between the two but your video is spot on!

  • @burtswable6682
    @burtswable6682 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video. Clears up a lot of questions between the 2 trucks. Trying to find answers from the dealer or Internet is a run around. Buying a new 3500 soon.

  • @steelmill
    @steelmill 4 місяці тому +7

    Class 1 railroader here and I can tell you these trucks hold up well in some of the worst conditions. They are loaded down from day one and normally see anywhere from 25000 to 40000 per year until they reach 275000 miles.This is minimal preventative maint,extended oil changes 10000 to 15000 miles no transmission maint and no rear axle maint.We stopped buying Dodge trucks for a while except for half tons.

  • @scotthooper4170
    @scotthooper4170 4 місяці тому +1

    Great job guys! Thank you. I’ll check with my state to see how those differences effect me. You earned a subscription.

  • @johncornell3665
    @johncornell3665 4 місяці тому

    Great video guys, great comparison and explanation!

  • @DaddyTux-de3iq
    @DaddyTux-de3iq 3 місяці тому

    Great review and comparison - getting the technical numbers interesting.

  • @sassyfromthegitgo
    @sassyfromthegitgo 4 місяці тому +3

    This is extremely helpful info thank you!!

  • @lanceripplinger8352
    @lanceripplinger8352 4 місяці тому

    Great video, very informative! Truck King is king!

  • @djfitzgerald2193
    @djfitzgerald2193 4 місяці тому +3

    Great job on expanding the difference between the two trucks keep up the good work

  • @jameswhitbeck8713
    @jameswhitbeck8713 4 місяці тому +1

    Nice job explaining both trucks. It's hard to find someone that explains the numbers so a person can understand.
    Me, I went for the gas duel rear wheel. Payload is my big concern. My fifth wheel puts 3800 pounds in the bed. Then the weight of the hitch, the driver/passenger and so on, things add up quickly.
    My truck is a 2024 GMC, same truck drive train wise. Yes, I ordered it with no sunroof.
    Keep the shows coming I enjoy them.
    Thanks

  • @BKW2424
    @BKW2424 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for this info, am trying to decide between the two and it all makes more sense now. I appreciate the video.

  • @jimmstertwister5504
    @jimmstertwister5504 4 місяці тому +19

    So from what I can understand
    The 2500 w/max tow, can actually handle the 3500 payload, except on paper they have to classified it in a different category? " so the only difference is on paper "

  • @rjhein
    @rjhein 4 місяці тому +3

    Great review on the differences, thank you so much for that!! One interesting thing here - In British Columbia Canada we pay a PST based luxury tax (additional 3%) on the 2500 series, which is not applicable on the 3500 series due to the fact that the 3500 series (at least here in BC) is considered in a commercial class, thus the luxury tax does not apply, even though it may be more luxury equipped. This tax applies to almost any passenger type gas/diesel vehicle in BC that are valued over $55,000

  • @wallyman8
    @wallyman8 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for specifics - been trying to figure out exactly what the Dif is 1500HD vs 2500HD vs 3500 for a few weeks now. Best comparison I've found so far.

    • @jakeevans3077
      @jakeevans3077 4 місяці тому

      Remember there are big differences between years as well. In the early 2000’s the 1500hd and the 2500 were identical, you didn’t get a diesel option in those because it was saved for the 2500hd as well as the full float rear axle and frame.
      Also If you compare a 2500hd from the early 2000’s to a single wheel 3500hd they are identical aside from more leafs on the 3500.

  • @WalkerTexasplumber
    @WalkerTexasplumber 4 місяці тому

    Great video and great explanation on both

  • @ntaft0904
    @ntaft0904 4 місяці тому

    Great video thank you. I'm with your dad, I am not really one that likes to have the sunroof or moonroof and have always tried to find the options I want without being forced into getting the glass over my head. With that said I have a 3500HD DRW LTZ without the glass roof. And In my opinion the interior looks very nice and has a more classy look and feel to it compared to the lower trim packages.

  • @robertjohnson4784
    @robertjohnson4784 4 місяці тому +2

    Hey guy a big thank you for explaining to us the difference between GVWR and tow ratings Also telling us about the max tow package, which is practically a 3500 again, thank you for the great explanation

  • @ALMX5DP
    @ALMX5DP 4 місяці тому +12

    Great info on the 2500 vs max tow/3500. OEMs love making things a bit convoluted so nice to hear/see a breakdown between them all.

    • @scotthooper4170
      @scotthooper4170 4 місяці тому

      They are complicated, I agree. But, I can also assure you that all the Government (s) & different agencies have more to do with that then we can imagine. Having dealt with the government both professionally & personally their is absolutely no doubt that they are the main reason for the differences in numbers & engineering for these (and other) trucks.

  • @chrishayes4785
    @chrishayes4785 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video, with all the right information. Do you do a 1/2 ton vs 3/4 ton version?

  • @stumeat77
    @stumeat77 4 місяці тому +2

    This is such an outstanding video! Great info guys, easy to digest and very helpful. THANK YOU!

  • @Atom-ut4wt
    @Atom-ut4wt 4 місяці тому

    I also have a 2024 Chevy 3500 HD (got it in May of 2023) LTZ without a sunroof. I did get the heads-up display (through the electronics package). I absolutely love my truck!

  • @lyledeckert365
    @lyledeckert365 4 місяці тому

    Great vid, here in Alberta if you’re using your pickup commercially the DOT doesn’t use your manufacturer max load they go by your tire max load.

  • @chagoflyer1
    @chagoflyer1 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you, that was an excellent tutorial.

  • @wint_62
    @wint_62 4 місяці тому +28

    Such great trucks! The best HDs on the road especially the ZR2.

    • @AJ12-76
      @AJ12-76 4 місяці тому +1

      😂😂😂

  • @joelknierim1456
    @joelknierim1456 4 місяці тому

    Great video! I love the few clips from the GM assembly plant. The larger rear end ring gear would be a nice benefit from 3500 or 2500 max tow, but for what i do, not needed. It will be a few years before im ready to spend $100,000 on a truck but that will be fun when i do. Right now my 2003 1500HD does the job.

  • @toddmcgee5982
    @toddmcgee5982 4 місяці тому +1

    Awesome explanation. I always thoughts there were more suspension differences between the two.

  • @travistheriot669
    @travistheriot669 4 місяці тому

    Awesome video for an inexperienced tower looking for a truck. Thank you!

  • @Jeffstinek
    @Jeffstinek 4 місяці тому +14

    i just got my 3500 ltz without a sunroof, didn't want it either. Thanks for the great video!

    • @chevypu4
      @chevypu4 4 місяці тому

      Sun roof is a repair in the making, not if it will leak its when

  • @TheWVgoodguy22
    @TheWVgoodguy22 3 місяці тому

    Great explanation of the difference between the two classifications of trucks 🛻. You really hit all of the points.
    I don’t have a need for either actually but I like to learn, even though I sold Chevy for a year and some change. The main thing that I don’t like about the LTZ vs the HC outside of price is that I can’t stand big chrome bumpers. But if I had to pick a Chevy HD truck 🛻 I would just get the ZR2 trim.

  • @rfeliciano97
    @rfeliciano97 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for the video. This is one of the questions I had and you answered it perfectly. Now I know for sure that I want the 3500 vice 2500.

  • @colinhamilton6493
    @colinhamilton6493 4 місяці тому +3

    Very informative. Thanks!

  • @PlanFive
    @PlanFive 5 днів тому

    Thanks for clearing all of that up...I recently bought a 2024 2500 with Max Tow that I absolutely love...and then started looking at 5th wheels and thought I made a mistake. My 2500 has a GVWR of 11750, payload of 3505, conventional trailer rating at 20K and gooseneck/5th wheel of 21600. It's nice to now know that I basically bought a 3500 SRW without the 3500 badging!!!!

  • @RonnN-gf8tm
    @RonnN-gf8tm 4 місяці тому

    Hey Howard n Steve...love the date on the door.. 11/23' Fresh build!!! You got me looking at long trucks now Howard. 4 dr long box

  • @333jfish
    @333jfish 3 місяці тому

    Awesome info, glade I found your channel as I am currently in shopping mode. I will be buying either a 2500 or 3500. I do want to make sure the 2500 is max trailering other than that, LTZ package or if I go GMC either AT4 or Denali.

  • @shawnmckenzie1786
    @shawnmckenzie1786 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for the information.
    Great job.

  • @slmjake
    @slmjake 4 місяці тому +6

    I am sold on 3500 because I want a truck camper and I want to stay below legal payload.
    My big question is long bed versus 7 foot bed. I prefer a short bed but how the vehicle handles when loaded can be impacted by wheelbase and where the center of gravity is relative to the rear axle.
    Can you do a video with max payload in each truck and see how each handles?

  • @ellobo1326
    @ellobo1326 4 місяці тому

    Great video. Very informative.

  • @owen33333
    @owen33333 4 місяці тому +1

    Thanks, I went with the GMC 3500HD SLT CC LB gas, love it!

  • @geezusmeatball1328
    @geezusmeatball1328 4 місяці тому +3

    Nice info guys !

  • @Featherburner
    @Featherburner 4 місяці тому +3

    One month ago my 2500 LTZ crew cab long bed finally came in. I'm like your dad in the fact that I didn't want the sunroof. Option wise it's loaded. So far, I'm enjoying it very much. The reason I went with the 2500 is, that the max I'm towing is 13k-14k and my cargo weight capacity is less than 500 pounds less than the 3500.

    • @CGT80
      @CGT80 4 місяці тому +1

      I got the same thing in June of 2020. I wanted all the options but no sun roof and wanted white CC LB and don't like the high country white bumpers, HC wheels, stock wheels, and a couple other things. They had 3 LTZ trucks with every option but sun roof and 5th wheel prep and z71 for the same sticker price as the HC. Orders weren't getting filled during the pandemic and I really needed a new truck when I finally went looking. With back and neck problems I didn't want a harsher ride and there were mixed opinions on the ride of the 3500 plus komnifornia would have just charged me more for tags and my needs were easily met with the 2500. I love mine and added the banks pedal monster which makes even more difference than the derringer tuner. It can get 20 mpg on the freeway at 85 mpg and tows 12-14k pounds with ease.

  • @chrisnewby5713
    @chrisnewby5713 3 місяці тому

    Watching from NORTHERN ALBERTA, absolute love my 2024 2500 at4 hd with the 6.6 duramax , truly an amazing work vehicle

  • @dlansburg2673
    @dlansburg2673 4 місяці тому +3

    Good job, my trucks always start with WT

  • @robertsarhanmd6433
    @robertsarhanmd6433 3 місяці тому

    Excellent, You and Father are just full of valuable information, Thank you, Robert

  • @MEOW151
    @MEOW151 4 місяці тому

    Sweet, finally a great comparison, love it

  • @211Gus
    @211Gus 4 місяці тому +17

    Great explainer. Now if only you can get the big three to discuss how they calculate their payload numbers.

    • @biz4twobiz463
      @biz4twobiz463 4 місяці тому

      I'm pretty sure they take GVWR rating and subtract weight of the truck and that results in payload. So, trucks with more packages and options weigh more with equates to less payload.

    • @GAlan-nn6mu
      @GAlan-nn6mu 4 місяці тому +2

      Payload is simply GVWR minus Curb Weight. GM no longer offers a 10K GVWR package which matters with registration in some states. They must no have many takers like Ford does.

  • @nicolaskorb831
    @nicolaskorb831 3 місяці тому

    Amazing informations! These trucks arent even sold here, but i like searching about. Greetings from Brazil!

  • @jeffloveless6536
    @jeffloveless6536 4 місяці тому

    When I bought my 3500 chevy in 2006 I found exactly what you were talking about with numbers and weights. I bought a single wheel long bed. I really enjoyed your video and the explanations you gave. My truck has over 300000 miles on it and I'm starting to think about buying a new one. I can't get over how much they have gone up. I paid $41,000. out the door for mine and the same.one today is in the 90's to 100,000 depending on what you want. Can you do a video on the new Duramax? I would like to know if the new ones are as good as the one I have now. I have heard that they have made some changes that were not good buy that is only rumors. Thanks again to you and your Dad for a great informative video

  • @mikes.6937
    @mikes.6937 3 дні тому

    Thank you. 2500 Custom 2024 Silverado 6.6L gas works for me towing a 34 foot Coachman Freedom Express Ultra light 292BHDS. Only extras I asked for was bed liner spray on and the same steps that's on the High Country. Kept the price reasonable at just under 57k. No sales tax in New Hampshire. I don't need frills and grills. Great presentation!.
    price under

  • @dannykrauskopf7404
    @dannykrauskopf7404 4 місяці тому

    Excellent video as always!!! 😁

  • @ACERRUBRUM31
    @ACERRUBRUM31 4 місяці тому

    Nice vid , seriously.
    You’re right about the “ packages” when whittling away or adding features on trucks. I Have to ask, the last truck in video. Is that color exclusive to the higher end like LTZ or high country? It’s pretty sharp would look just fine on an LT, imo:
    Thanks !

  • @michaelthayer6995
    @michaelthayer6995 4 місяці тому +1

    Steve, great content and presentation. It’s great to see how you and your dad are close and work together so well. Question about the ring gears. If you say it’s true I’ll believe you but I thought that 2500 diesels have the same axle and ring gear as 3500 diesels. Is that incorrect? Second question the one thing I didn’t hear you mention was electronic torque reduction. Is there any torque reduction in the 2500s or 3500s and is it related to ring gear size? Thanks in advance and keep up the great content.

    • @kylemj13
      @kylemj13 4 місяці тому

      2500 diesels (non max-tow) have 11.5" ring gears, and 2500 max-tow and 3500 diesels have 12". 2500 max-tow and 3500 diesels do not have torque limiting in first gear (which is only enabled if you have tow-haul mode on, otherwise all the trucks start in 2nd gear)

  • @kevingroulx9205
    @kevingroulx9205 4 місяці тому

    Awesome video. I would love to see a video about dually trucks.

  • @Rcol4427
    @Rcol4427 4 місяці тому +4

    I have a 2024 2500 duramax in midnight edition. I don’t tow heavy often but I like having the capability. I will tow a pallet of lime with 1000 lbs of fertilizer for my property. I did it with my tundra but it struggled a little on the hills . My duramax is a beast!! There is nothing I tow that will give an issue. Great review

  • @anonymouscowboy6732
    @anonymouscowboy6732 4 місяці тому

    My 24 LTZ 2500 has heads up display and rearview camera. It has everything the high country does except z71 and power running boards. Payload is 3100. Pulls my 40’ fifth wheel with ease. It doesn’t have the max trailering but that would have been nice to know about when I bought it in April of 2023.

  • @nyrangers3150
    @nyrangers3150 4 місяці тому

    Thanks Guys.. With my 2011 chevy 3500HD I pay over $200 for registration in the state of PA. I was always curious of the differences. Thanks for the info.

  • @randysavage8963
    @randysavage8963 4 місяці тому

    Fantastic video thanks guys

  • @Jon651
    @Jon651 2 місяці тому +1

    I recently purchased a 2024 Silverado 2500HD LTZ, and I can frankly say that the Max Tow Package came as quite a surprise. The window sticker explicitly says the Max Tow Pkg comes with "3500HD frame, leaf springs, 12" rear axle, HD shock package". Literally the only difference I can tell between my truck and an identical 3500HD SRW are the badges on the outside. This is my third 2500HD truck in a row from Chevy (2004 and 2013 prior to this one), and I can say that the evolution of these trucks has been remarkable.

  • @jnich17
    @jnich17 4 місяці тому +15

    According to GM specs with the 2500hd, the GVRW IS 11,350 LBS. When you add the Max Tow pkg, it increases the GVRW to 11,750 lbs. Then of course, the 3500hd has the 12,100 lb GVRW. Just to clarify. I looked at all of these before ordering my 3500. I really enjoy your channel. Keep up the good work.

    • @rich7447
      @rich7447 4 місяці тому +4

      Which really makes them both class 3 (10,001 to 14,000 lb) trucks. A lot of the 250/2500s are no longer class 2B trucks.

    • @robertcolpitts4534
      @robertcolpitts4534 4 місяці тому +1

      This is how my 2022 Silverado 2500HD LT came: 11,350# GVWR, 3400# Payload. The 3500HD SRW had a slightly higher GVWR and payload.

    • @rjterry21
      @rjterry21 4 місяці тому

      That's cute. My 2020 Ram 3500 HO GVWR is 12,300. ;-)

    • @freddievanfleet1259
      @freddievanfleet1259 3 місяці тому

      I have a 2023 with a GVRW with 13150 is that no longer a option

    • @rich7447
      @rich7447 3 місяці тому

      @@freddievanfleet1259 I have never heard of a truck having that close to 14,000 lb GVWR without being right at 14k. Which 2023 do you have?

  • @AdamFrugoli
    @AdamFrugoli 4 місяці тому +1

    I learned tons on this video.

  • @fernandoroybal3968
    @fernandoroybal3968 4 місяці тому +1

    I have an Iridescent White2500 LTZ with Max Tow with no sunroof, mine also has the overhead cab lights as well
    !! I agree with your dad, not a fan of sunroofs!!

  • @danieljohnston5306
    @danieljohnston5306 4 місяці тому +10

    I have a 2500hd max tow, it was spec’d out as a “crummy” (slang term for a work truck for a logging company around here). I didn’t know it was a max tow when I bought it but figured it out when I decided to buy a 39 ft travel trailer.
    Some benefits I accidentally got was a higher payload because my trim and options packages were on the basic side as a work truck. I can load a bit more than a one ton because of it. I still have all the muscle, breaks, suspension, better mirrors, and so on but it’s not fancy on the inside. Just my style. Oh and much much cheaper!!

  • @erjuedes
    @erjuedes 4 місяці тому +2

    Damn I’d kill for either one of those beautiful machines. All comes down to insane truck prices nowadays

  • @pryme2013
    @pryme2013 4 місяці тому +66

    Good video guys. One thing worth mentioning is how much your payload can be affected depending on the trim. Case in point, that high country 2500 has a 2,890lb payload because it’s loaded up with lots of lipstick and shiny bits. My 22 2500 WT CCSB Z71 has 3,520lb payload because it doesn’t have all the fancy stuff but 600 pounds of payload more is significant. Also any difference in height of about an inch can be attributed to heavier spring packs with the camper and snow plow prep packs. My 2500 has both so the springs are heavier. 5600/6600 so that’s where the inch can come in.

    • @pnwdweler4100
      @pnwdweler4100 4 місяці тому +3

      That’s right. I have a 2024 GMC Sierra 2500HD SE. IT HAS 3300 LBS of payload because of the lower trim level.

    • @clinth1636
      @clinth1636 4 місяці тому +9

      Weeeee geeeeeeet it...... You couldn't afford the 3500. No one cares. The high country does not have 600 lbs in leather and chrome. Nice try though. Apples to apples, wt to high country is not 600lbs. Carpet does not weigh more than rubber. You may be referring to more sound deadening, thicker glass, better build. If you think a WT vs high country is just "lipstick" you have never watched one get built at the plant....

    • @Lq32332
      @Lq32332 4 місяці тому +9

      @@clinth1636weeee geeett it. You’re not great at critical thinking or reading comprehension. Payload is just made up in your world 🤡

    • @clinth1636
      @clinth1636 4 місяці тому +3

      @@Lq32332 Projecting a little bit there, bud? Where did I say payload is made up? Quite literally my main point is 600lbs is not accurate, and the difference between WT And high country is not "600 lbs of lipstick." Someone has to call this guy out on his bull crap stating that the real reason he got the entry level is because of cost and the higher payload capacity due to no "lipstick."

    • @pryme2013
      @pryme2013 4 місяці тому

      @@clinth1636 lmao you are a very dumb person

  • @snakeman48
    @snakeman48 4 місяці тому

    I have a 2023 3500 HD, single rear wheel, LT trim, crew cab, Duramax. Loving it. Replaces my 2006, 3500, SRW, regular cab, WT trim, Duramax.

  • @JohnDiMartino
    @JohnDiMartino 4 місяці тому +2

    Glad to hear you bring this to light , my personal feelings are that we should either stay at the 10 k hard cap or the government should raise the weight classifications to reflect modern heavy picks so as a business owner you can still drive your 2500 diesel a few states away to pickup something without having to do a log book and in service times dates and stop at weigh stations. FYI any 2600 at 10,001 gvwr or higher is a class 3 1 ton truck as defined by the us dot ,and fir insurance purposes. That 2500 emblem is a lie

  • @tomfitzgerald6666
    @tomfitzgerald6666 4 місяці тому

    how about a video on navigating the chevy configurator. I have spent time in it, and it can be confusing trying to decifer between the packages and all what they include. Love your channel

    • @RoadieWingZZ
      @RoadieWingZZ 4 місяці тому

      Exactly. It’s a pain in the ass. See a feature you like in a presented option, and it undoes several choice made earlier and/or dumps a $6000 package you picked earlier. Terrible implementation IMHO.

  • @davidmolaison2933
    @davidmolaison2933 4 місяці тому +5

    I wish that I had known about the 2500 Max Tow. I have the exact truck as y’all’s 3500 except for that DAMM Sunroof.

  • @rjhein
    @rjhein 4 місяці тому

    It's a great point that you're bringing up the commercial legal compliance guidelines around the gvwr/axle ratings between the 2500/3500 models. It's very true re commercial regulations between the 2500/3500 models - I do wonder how much is jurisdiction based. I'm a fellow Canadian, but presumably you will have numerous American followers. The 3500 models typically have a much lower margin of rating difference between their respective GAWR Front/Rear and the total GVWRs vs the 2500 models. The thing you brought up about the Rams is correct (presumably with some GM/Ford models too) - there could be upwards of a 2000+lb difference between the rated axle limits and the GVWR limit; however on the 3500 models the difference is typically much lower seemingly suggesting that the commercial weight classes have more to do with that difference than the actual capability of the respective trucks

  • @rbhe357
    @rbhe357 4 місяці тому

    A couple years back I booked the price on an identical F250 and F350. $600 difference which best I could tell was a heavier rear spring stack.

  • @jamesglavich1426
    @jamesglavich1426 4 місяці тому +3

    My truck is a 22 High Country 3500 LWB.I think if you are going to tow, especially 5th wheel, or Gooseneck, you should choose the long bed instead of the short bed. The short bed, whether you choose the factory Puck system or go after market install, you will have a hitch point that is about four or five inches behind the axle. This because the factory has placed a crossmember on the bed where the hitch needs to be. The long box does not have said crossmember at the axle centerline. With the hitch behind the axle, the heavier the hitch weight, the more weight you take from the front axle, granted it is not a great amount, but you need to add a little weight instead of removing from the front. The factory don't seem concerned with this, as a conventional trailer Max rating of 20,000 lbs, you have a hitch weight of 2,000 lbs, that is going to take weight off of the front axle.

  • @lukiw7044
    @lukiw7044 4 місяці тому

    Good exhaustive comparison. Your Dad has great 3500 Silverado. Greetings

  • @adamkern3689
    @adamkern3689 4 місяці тому

    Really enjoyed this information

  • @markabelson6257
    @markabelson6257 4 місяці тому +1

    Good comparison, one item is that the 2500 with the MAX Tow has a GVWR of 11750, verses the standard 2500 of 11350. I have the 3500 LTZ, without a sun roof. LOL

  • @markbergthold6181
    @markbergthold6181 4 місяці тому +1

    On the Ford side, I’m like your dad. I got a 21 F350 Lariat 4x 7.3L, the same config in F250 was slightly more $. I didn’t want sunroof because I run a law roof lightbar. I got the 7.3L rather than the diesel, saved $10k right there.

  • @blake5089
    @blake5089 4 місяці тому +97

    Another thing to note is that in the socialist republic of British Columbia you don’t pay luxury tax on 3500 but you do on 2500.

    • @rich7447
      @rich7447 4 місяці тому +35

      Luxury taxes are just a way to appease all those with disdain for anyone more successful than themselves. That type of attitude is not at all productive.

    • @Hard_Right
      @Hard_Right 4 місяці тому

      lol it's cute that you think the entire country of canaduh isn't a commie shithole

    • @Notfiveo0
      @Notfiveo0 4 місяці тому +3

      Just like in the U.S. , no concept of the definition of socialism.

    • @michaelcopeland8985
      @michaelcopeland8985 4 місяці тому +4

      In Minnesota a 2500 tabs are around 600 bucks a year, 3500 150.

    • @Scotford_Maconochie
      @Scotford_Maconochie 3 місяці тому +4

      I bet the 3500 is considered a commercial vehicle thus exempt from luxury tax

  • @patriot8087
    @patriot8087 2 місяці тому +1

    Great Content boy's. I'm a new fan of your channel.

  • @galaxyfz
    @galaxyfz 4 місяці тому +1

    I see the number of leafs in the main pack are the same on the 2500 & 3500 @ 5 each. What I'd like to know is if the spring rates are also the same. If they are, then theoretically, they should have the same "ride quality" empty, since the 2 overloads on the 3500 don't engage until there is a load in the truck. Is there a presumable difference in empty ride quality between the 2? I know these trucks are designed to tow & haul, but realistically, majority of owners will put on more miles empty than loaded.

  • @fit4ya1975
    @fit4ya1975 3 місяці тому

    How are the seats on the new ones, they have more cushion to them or still rock hard? Great Video!

  • @davidfulton3137
    @davidfulton3137 4 місяці тому +3

    Excellent video, great explaination of the max tow package. I am looking at a Chevrolet to tow my 2018 Jayco Pinnacle 36 KPTS, thinking of doing the dually for stability . Have never towed a fiver before, still like the idea of a 2500 max tow also, just as a cost saver. What's your thoughts on dually vs. SRW?

    • @campnut6076
      @campnut6076 4 місяці тому +1

      I have a 3500, make certain you check the max goose ball capacity also, not just payload to be certain it will work for your needs.

    • @DanMar5858
      @DanMar5858 4 місяці тому

      Dually will definitely tow noticeably more stable. If planning on towing a 5er for long distances, than the dually would be the optimal choice.

    • @scottames800
      @scottames800 3 місяці тому

      As previously mentioned, the 3500 dually will provide a more stable ride while towing your 5th wheel.
      If you are a full time RVer towing a large 5th wheel or tow heavy loads often, then the dually is the way to go.
      If not, I would strongly suggest going with the 2500HD or the 3500HD SRW(single rear wheel).
      The duallys are very wide in the hips and can be difficult to park in the city or trying to navigate in parking garages.

  • @hindzer
    @hindzer 4 місяці тому

    guys thanks so much for the video and info. i just traded a 2021 2500 HD LTZ for a 2024 3500 HD high country. i never wanted a high country but that is all i could find. I believe the LTZ is better value and deal compared to the high country. my truck rides great and numbers are 21,600 gooseneck, 20,000 bumper and 3789 max pay. my truck is 12,100 gvwr

  • @rickthain8538
    @rickthain8538 4 місяці тому

    What year are the trucks shown? I thought the new ones had a light over each wheel. Very informative video from a guy who has been buying 3500 SRW since 1997.

  • @lot-a-timers4507
    @lot-a-timers4507 4 місяці тому

    Great video! I’m guessing the information will be the same dealing with GMC Sierra Denali trucks… I have the 2020 3500 for my 35’ FW

  • @Slider68
    @Slider68 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm not sure if current trucks are like this but historically 3500's came with the heaviest duty rear AND front axles. The 2500's with the heaviest tow package came with the same frame, rear axle and rear suspension but the front axle was lighter duty by about 1000lb load capacity.
    This was true for many years, all the way into at least the early 2000's.
    Even my 1977 K30 vs my 1976 heavy K20 (it was a special order chassis cab for use as a tow truck) is this way. Both have the same full floating HD 14-bolt rear end but the K20 has a Dana 44 front axle (or GM equivalent) and the K30 has a Dana 60 front axle.
    What is the difference regarding the front axle and front suspension in 2024 2500HD vs 3500's?

  • @davee2274
    @davee2274 4 місяці тому

    Great video! Is the rational the same with the gas engines in these trucks?