Na he hasn’t fallen. The fact he’s protecting those natives kinda kills the theory. As far as to why Sabine found em so soon, I blame the fact Dave only had 8 episodes to work with….there are going to be inherent pacing issues with so few episodes.
Yeah, if anybody has a dark secret to hide, it's Sabine. She's the one who made the choice to put their galaxy in danger just to get to him. A choice he wouldn't have made for himself. There's a reason why she didn't just tell the truth right away when asked. As far as she knows right now, they are stranded with no way back and Thrawn will be returning to the main galaxy.
They could have cut most of the first 4 episodes. Senselessly slow for no good reason. The first two episodes could have been cut completely. It was a very poor use of time.
8 episodes by Disney is same shit, different day. All of their projects with 8 episodes suffer from pacing issues and unexplored potential, all or most of them I guess.
I think Thrawn knew exactly where Ezra was and didnt want anything to do with him. I think some fans will be upset as to the amount of power he has attained.
I love Ezra he’s in my top 5 characters and I’f hes in the dark side ima hate it , Ezra works best as how he was portrayed in rebels and he got very powerful in rebels I was fine with that , he used the light side but also dark but he wasn’t controlled by the dark side he’s one of few that controlled the dark side but was not tempted by having more power , He is one with power but does not chase such power instead chases a way of life and a safe home for his friends and family , Ezra’s force connection with animals should show he’s a very instinctual character with pure intent and desire
I don't know why fans would be upset by his power level. He was talented in the force to begin with and we watched for season of character and power level progression with him. And, for at least the last decade in the timeline he's been alone and conceivably in a constant battle for his own survival and has managed to stay alive the whole time on an unknown world with the constant threat of Thrawn, the Nightsisters, and the forces they can muster against him. His circumstances would have caused his power level to rise greatly the same way it happened with many Jedi during the Clone Wars when the constant battle made them have to always be sharpening their skills in life or death situations. This isn't a Rey situation where with zero training she can all of a sudden use Mind Tricks and lightsaber fight a trained Kylo Ren.
I watched most starwars, even cartoons I wouldn't be surprise how strong he has become since it's a given if people has actually watched rebels though I wouldn't say he was jedimaster lvl then he should've at least reach jediknight or mid to top lvl of that. what I'll be upset about is if he actually succumb to darkness despite all the things he went through in rebels and all he has learned. Kanan might not have been the strongest jediknight but the dude can train a padawan well not just in combat but I would say be in tune to the living force. if you watched rebels Kanan has always taught ezra not just being a jedi but life itself. if he suddenly be go dark dark dark kid... it would be weird but if there's a good explanation how... then ugh depending on how good it is ok.
@@R3FU3D "BUT we are talking about the Star Wars fan base." That is a significantly important point, even though it may not see so. Star Wars fans love to wildly speculate on every little thing. Even though that speculation is proven absolutely wrong about 99% of the time. The idea that the simplest solution is usually the best (or maybe better stated as most likely), SW fans still like to throw out wild speculation based on even the most obscure or unimportant details. This is a holdover from all of the Extended Universe (Legends) material, where authors would take these tiny little details, that were probably afterthoughts to Lucas, from the movies and turn them into these giant plot devices that drove ridiculously over-written stories.
Ezra collected helmets before. Collecting dog tags in an environment with far less storage and resources makes sense. I'm sure in the beginning, Thrawn sent many troopers after Ezra. However, I suspect Thrawn's forces were diminished by a combination of Ezra and raiders. I hope Ezra has not turned to the dark side.
probably he's using both sides of the force, like Ahsoka and Baylan. The 3 of them together is a rare conglomeration of grey/both sided force wielders.
I have to admit, having Ezra be twisted up after being in this unknown galaxy would be an awesome twist. They have been looking and hoping to find Ezra all this time, and for him to be twisted would be an awesome twist. Awesome video!! 👌🏼 👍🏼
Well imo , ahsoka , sabine , ezra, thrawn allw ont ever come back to the known galaxy they will die and be stuck in the far far away galaxy to never be seen again
I dont think Ezra is evil. I think he knows about the darkness on the planet and it is why he is ready to go home and why the noti are nomadic. The dog tags are just a new helmet collection without having to pack all of them around when the caravan moves.
I dont see the Noti species as having one evil bone in their body so it makes no sense to me that they would stay by Ezras side so happily and willingly.
I would like to think Ezra is not wearing the dog tags as trophies. But as morning for the storm troopers that have been killed and reanimated by the knight sisters. He has seen the terrible things that Thron and the night sisters have done.
I don't remember which book I read long ago in Legends, but Storm Trooper Dog Tags are made out of Beskar so it probably just made his own chain mail armor to protect himself.
He could have been a hero among the Stormtroopers during the early years but when the Night Sisters showed up, their was a miniature civil war between Ezra's side and Thrawn's side leading to the creation of the Night Troopers
3:27 remember Thrawn is master tactician. He is husbanding his resources and decided not to waste resources on keeping Ezra in custody. I'm betting those trooper tags belong to the night troopers. Where is Ezra gonna go? He can't leave the planet, he doesn't have the resources to take Thrawn head on, or even guerilla style. Ezra has changed he will not be a Jedi, but between Ashoka and Baylon.
How Sabine found Ezra, was the most archetypal "trust in the force" version of coincidences stumbling together. Raider ambush, sensor destroyed, wolf horse finds local sentients, local sentients are part of the rebellion, leads her to Ezra in a location they wouldn't be in tomorrow. No one but a Jedi would have found him so fast and in this way.
Fun fact, and something I didn’t think about/notice till just now. The fight between Shin and Sabine in the first episode of Ahsoka was the first live action lightsaber fight between 2 women. Also, I never felt there was anything romantically going on between Ezra and Sabine, besides Ezra flirting with her when he first met her. That’s why I’m in the Sabine and Shin shipping camp, which would also be the first gay/lesbian couple on screen in star wars, and makes sense for those 2 characters, cause they’re both not very “girly”, and if Thrawn ends up killing Baylan for actually not killing Ahsoka off, Shin could very likely join Sabine and Ezra to get revenge on Thrawn, and/or continue Baylan’s cause in some way, depending on what that ends up being. And Sabine and Shin both have that rebelish, stubborn, and dark tendency nature, the latter Shin more than Sabine of course, so I think they could compliment each other well, learning a lot together and from each other. I don’t know if Dave would go there, but I’d love to see it, not for the sake of representation at all, which I don’t care about, but because it could actually make sense for the characters and the story.
@ncard00 honestly that would be great just the problem is that Disney or any other network been adding more gays which is not bad but lately they been over doing it especially in cartoons in my opinion star wars wasn't really about gays I think they would keep it straight as possible that's what I think
"He arrived to early in the series" Some people just asshats i swear. Y'all gonna complaint if the series is "Overlonged" or "Wasting Time" if they don't bring Ezra in episode 6.
If you watched the show Supernatural for the 15 years it was on the air, then, you know never to expect a character who's been gone for an extended period of time to be the same person.
It seems too good to be true but I think it’s him. I think he did kill a lot of Thrawn’s soldiers but, he’s not the big bad Baylon is sensing. Especially seeing him with those cute little ugly rock snail creatures. I think people really need to get over dark vs light in these situations. He is a survivor and he can no longer live the rules the Jedi order enforced. I think whatever is calling Baylon, is protecting Ezra and that’s what Thrawn is afraid of. When Ashoka arrives the shizz is gonna hit the fan.
It would be interesting if it was abeloth controlling Ezra. You mentioned that he could be a bit mad. Who is an ancient demon that is known for causing madness? Abeloth. Instead of baylen being attracted to abeloth, Abeloth could be using Ezra as a conduit of some sort. She has had thousands of years to plot her return. She may be using it as a trap to kill all who can sense her power. In other words, she may be using Ezra to kill baylen to keep her presence unknown until the time is right.
@@LegendaryGoetz while I don't know how to feel about the theory, you can't blame them. Abeloth was the first fresh thing in SW for a long time, and is certainly fresher than the sequels. Hell, the Jedi and Sith didn't even kill her, they just put her back to sleep because she is far beyond their means to destroy. For star wars, that's fresh as fuck.
You misinterpreted what Thrawn said. Thrawn: "You've gambled the fate of your galaxy, on that belief?". He isn't saying that Ezra being alive would be a threat to the galaxy. Thrawn is just questioning if Sabine's belief of Ezra being alive is what motivated her to provide Thrawn a way back to Galaxy-1 -- which in and of itself is the fate changing catalyst of the galaxy. In other words, Thrawn felt a bit offended by what she said so he decided to express how he found it difficult to believe that she would risk the entirety of the galaxy on just the slight glimpse of hope that she could see her friend again, a single person. In other words this was Thrawn's version of a calculated rational clap-back to Sabine, he roasted her intelligence.
Yeah he's fallen so bad he's performing selfless Jedi acts like assisting that race of beings with packing up to move to another location. Very dark stuff
If we compare what Ezra was wearing before and after, his clothes seem to be in taters, and he could be wearing the tags as a form of armor in this unknown/uncharted galaxy to protect himself since resources could be scarce. The same could be said with Thrawn, due to resources being scarce he wants to focus on not losing as much as possible and stays away from Ezra bc that could cause further problems for him. In legends (not sure about cannon), there were sith who only existed without being bloodthirsty, or Ezra has become a Grey Jedi or even surviving by only acting in defense of himself like a Jedi.
Thank you for bringing back the fun introductions. Missed them. Much better than "What's up guys." This is what sets you apart and puts you on a higher level of commentator as you show respect for the property more than others. Major props!!
At the beginning of this video I imagined Ezra being Abolth in disguise. That weird armor Ezra is wearing is really a depiction of Aboloths teeth. If anyone is Aboloth in disguise it's probably Baylan. Just Saiyan awsome show
Reading too much into this. Yes Sabine found Ezra fast. Artoo found Kenobi in two days. Luke found Yoda in about a half an hour. On quite large planets. They have to cut down search time on planets or it would take its own TV series or movie just finding them on one planet, let alone the entire galaxy.
I'm one of the posters that question Ezra. ... From my view it has a lot to do with Baylan's description of the planet itself. ... It's not that I believe he's turned to the dark side. It's that I don't believe it was him. ... He wasn't concerned enough about how Sabine got there & where others were. ... I mean, he must have seen Thrawns ship arrive to the Night Sister's fortress & know that they know Sabine is there. ... He was just too relaxed about it all, IMO. As said in this video, I also believe the odds are low it's anything but Ezra & simply not enough time in the episode/series to develop things with it all. Hey, shall see & know soon enough 🎉
Him caring for the turtle people kinda kills the theory that he’s turned dark, I believe if he turned dark we would’ve found him in kind of a darker, more solo situation. I don’t think that’s the kind of picture they were trying to paint for his character 🤷🏽♂️
@flykhai9672 could be as simple as staying hidden and fed till he's ready. They never dive into this but fr what're you gonna eat if you show up on a planet you've never been to 😂
@@TheGoldenBoot-cz1do it just seems really out of his character to do that because he was always super compassionate to others in general. But anything is possible for sure, being stuck on a foreign planet can do that to a man 😂
People are overanalyzing the whole Stormtrooper dog tags chainmail thing, Ezra wouldn't exactly have the greatest options for protection on an abandoned world in another Galaxy.
Ezra corrupted or driven to madness would be interesting, but the simpler explanation is more likely. Disney Star Wars tends to avoid complexity in stories and characters, so Ezra is probably just a pure, straightforward good guy.
I don’t think Ezra has turned, but I do think that just like Sabine he is hiding the details of what living in this graveyard of a planet has cost him. It would, however, be very interesting if he was part of Skoll’s plan to break the wheel
as for sabine finding him so quickly. i think it has allot to do with Andor and how that show was stuctured. lots of people complained about it been slow. with only 8 episodes to establish all main characters and setting up the plot people would complain if there was 2 episodes of sabine and her dog just looking for ezra.
I’m cool with that, that actually sounds awesome!! If baylan &/o shin challenge Ezra and he says oh yeah? And goes full sith eyes in response, then just turns it off and starts joking with Sabine after flattening them 😮🤷🏼♂️👍🏻
An interesting Theory ... Why not, Let Ezra be one with the glowing red Sith pyramid holocron. Wasn't he tainted by it , trained by it ? Didn't he defend Darth Maul for a little bit ? Let him be a dark lord....Disney has shit all over Star Wars...why stop there...lol Ezra has the traits of psycho path....look at his Trooper dog tag chain mail...only a killer, would collect and wear trophies like that. Trophy-taking acts as “a signature” and becomes part of a killer's murder ritual..Various serial killers would comment that they would use the trophies collected from their victims to 'enhance' their memories of the killings.
I think that the hero going to the dark side is a tired narrative that they dont repeat. Also....then conclusion of the season 1 kinda killed most of that argument. He built a new BLUE saber.
Dont. forget Ezra was a teen and fighting a rebellion he 100% has PTSD. Second humans are social imagine the isolation he must feel. However, he was allowed access to the world between worlds which has we know is a gateway through all time and space. The world would know Ezra would turn into something evil and would never have allowed him access. Good Ole Palps couldn’t get in he had to access to access it through a vision using night sister magik. I think Ezra is just a much Harder and Stoic version of his old self. But as we all know this could age like milk on a summer day.
😂 I Can imagen our last scene in the last episode would be Ezra with his arm wrapped around Sabine walking away all cheerful and at the last second he turns his head to the audience and smiles menacingly. Thriller style
Those aren't stormtrooper dog tags, its lamellar armor to tie into the nomadic lifestyle he probably had to embrace on the planet. Most nomads in history used lamellar armor since it was a quick way to make easily repairable and economic armor. Plus, stormtrooper dog tags are supposed to be disk things according to comics so
Let's look at the fundamental philosophy of Grandmaster Yoda before jumping to these conclusions..."too quick you are to find truth without knowledge". Now let's look at how easily Luke found Yoda when he crash landed on Degobah. Its hasty to draw conclusions without the bigger picture. The Ashoka series has a budget, and it could also be that certain events are forced before they can be properly fleshed out due to that budget. How does one know for certain that Ezra hasn't been fighting for the light and is growing tired of the violence...much like Ashoka herself did. I feel it's way too hasty to draw the conclusion of Ezra's "fall" just as many assumed falsely about Luke's turn to the dark side in his attempt to defeat Vader, which he ultimately rejected. Its all speculation, and as Obi-wan would likely phrase it, 'your suspicion (based out of fear) clouds your judgement in the force'. Assuming isn't the Jedi way, but that of a sith acolyte...
Man Ezra has been there 10 years!! What do people expect? Plus they pulled that Ezra falling for the dark side of the holocrom before! How is it too soon? Hell it’s only 2 episodes left!
Turned to the dark side? Not unless they've pulled a last jedi on Ezra and totally screwed up his character. Why did we find him so quickly? Because some Jughead only ordered 9 episodes.
Didnt know stormtroopers actually have dogtags. He would of been more likely to have a row of stormtrooper helmets to use as musical instruments, rather that colect something so small
Critical feedback - perspectives have to change. I think this is what Dave is trying to tell us. Baylon and Shin are the respective post "Rebels" example. Ezra's whole story is about being different; Kanan Jarrus had to learn this and train him differently. Even Bindu knew this and tried to get Kanan to understand it in Rebels. We have to stop thinking like the old galaxy -black and white, good and bad...that is Baylon's point when he says he wants to end the cycle. This is Thrawn's point when he wants to return to the main galaxy. This is why your theory is flawed. Ezra is way more powerful than anyone imagines because he can walk the line between both rather than succumb to only one...again just like Baylon...Ashoka and everyone else in the story that Dave F. is telling us about.
There are only 8 episodes! Idk why I feel so strongly about this but there are just to many theories. Can we just enjoy instead of theorizing everything?!?!?
He's 100% not turned to the darkside. He acts civil and kind when he sees Sabine again, he protects the Noti natives, and he doesn't have any yellow eyes. And I doubt that he had knowledge of the same ability Palpatine used to hide his sith eyes.
I sure hope Ezra has not turned to the Dark Side, too cliche for me. I would love to see Ezra be stronger than that and from what I saw I believe him to be so, after all he experienced with Maul, etc.
What if Thrawn and Ezra had some kind of alliance/deal? It's clear that the Night sisters and also Thrawn fear a big threat lurking on Peridia (and I think a certain mother might be it). Thrawn knows and respects Ezra who has become even more powerful. Perhaps over the years Thrawn sent troopers out to measure just how strong he had become, and after Ezra bested all of them (without a lightsaber), Thrawn contacted him and struck a deal to report what he saw in the wastelands, while Thrawn and the sisters could stay safe. In exchange for his role as an informant, the Night Sisters taught Ezra some of their magic, so he could protect the nomad tribe even better. Idk if it's a stretch but it would be cool.
Ezra turning dark would be so disappointing his whole arc in rebels was him being tested by the dark side and rejecting it I really hope he has become his masters apprentice A true Jedi to his core
in episode 7 I wonder why Ezra was so eager to pick up a blaster but not the light saber after he said he didn't need a weapon. Does the light saber color change immediately to identify which side of the force the holder is on? It happened in the Star wars visions anime but i didn't know if it happened in the live action world too. Do you think that is why he wasnt eager to take it?
It's dumb to believe he'd turn to the dark side. He would never disrespect Kanan's memory that way. Ezra is probably the most empathetic character within the Star Wars universe. He literally made Hondo fall for his kindness. He made his choice when he denied Maul. He doesn't care about revenge. He chose to sacrifice himself. He doesn't need revenge for his choice. Ezra may be doing things his own way but at the end of the day, whatever Ezra does will align with his moral compass. Kanan believed in him. He wouldn't go dark side.
I disagree with him being a dark sider would “detract” from the story. He was a literal kid during rebels and he literally spent a decade+ in a literal alien galaxy, with everything that comes with it. I think it would enhance the story.
It does seem it was suspiciously easy for him to escape the Chimaera TWICE, both arriving in a new galaxy (to be fair we don't know the circumstances of his escape) and back to the original galaxy. What if Thrawn has twisted him through torture, it would then make sense to let him go. There's no way he didn't know where Ezra was. It was too easy for the night sisters to locate Ashoka.
Look he might have some minor mental problems from launching himself into the unknown but i feel like this blueberry knows himself too well to suddenly go on a murder spreen again lol homie is chilling with peaceful turtle people, he seems fine to me. And you cant blame thrawn for picking the night sisters over ezra.
There are only two episodes left in the season. Some storytellers know when it is time to move the story along so they can get to the finale. Also... continuing to fight the enemy, regardless of the new environment, isn't proof of going dark; it is proof Ezra is still fighting the same fight.
Sabine did not find him "there are no coincidines in the force"..... if he had fallen to the dark he would have powerful servants and not be a nomad moving target. show me who your friends are and I will tell you what you are......
I think they're trying to push it along since there's currently only 2 episodes left in the series, it was more to bring the characters back and setup a continuation of rebels :)
One theory I wanted to put out there is the idea that we have a huge, world-ending battle coming. The reason I say this is because of Baylan and Shin's last names. Baylan "Skoll" and Shin "Hati" is suspicious as someone who understands Norse myths. In Norse mythology, Skoll and Hati are the giant wolves that chase the sun and the moon and are considered as one of the precursors to Ragnarok. Once they eat the sun and moon then Ragnarok begins. I don't know what Baylan and Shin would "eat" in order to begin this battle, but I feel like their names are significant.
I think a lot of people are forgetting the Son and Daughter in the clone wars cartoon play a huge roll in Ahsoka. Ahsoka literally has the life force of the Daughter in her and I think that maybe the Son is going to be present at some point in the series. Maybe, this isn't Ezra at all and secretly the Son who is going to manipulate Ahsoka by turning her padawan towards the dark. If I remember correctly, the Son has the ability to shape shift and show people their dark futures.
I could maybe see him using some darker force abilities and what not like we see him do in season 3. but him completely falling just doesn't seem right.
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They used the shell beings to establish his goodness. He’s clearly been helping them and is admired.
This guy is just clickbait. He makes stuff up and is trying to make UA-cam money off of the controversy with each new episode.
or are the rebel necklaces some form of slave tag?
@@Memememe-is1ynpretty much. Most of these videos are so far from the truth it's just for clicks
The shell beings are gonna be sold at a retailer near you this holiday season
@@Globaldisasternetwork777 Have you also noticed its pretty common to see virtually the same video reup'd again under a different title
Na he hasn’t fallen. The fact he’s protecting those natives kinda kills the theory. As far as to why Sabine found em so soon, I blame the fact Dave only had 8 episodes to work with….there are going to be inherent pacing issues with so few episodes.
Yeah, if anybody has a dark secret to hide, it's Sabine. She's the one who made the choice to put their galaxy in danger just to get to him. A choice he wouldn't have made for himself. There's a reason why she didn't just tell the truth right away when asked. As far as she knows right now, they are stranded with no way back and Thrawn will be returning to the main galaxy.
@@straighttalkwithkyle7947 Thats another thing.. How are they even supposed to be able to leave the Galaxy?
They could have cut most of the first 4 episodes. Senselessly slow for no good reason. The first two episodes could have been cut completely. It was a very poor use of time.
@@earthstar7534i think they made it that way i
8 episodes by Disney is same shit, different day. All of their projects with 8 episodes suffer from pacing issues and unexplored potential, all or most of them I guess.
I think Thrawn knew exactly where Ezra was and didnt want anything to do with him. I think some fans will be upset as to the amount of power he has attained.
I love Ezra he’s in my top 5 characters and I’f hes in the dark side ima hate it , Ezra works best as how he was portrayed in rebels and he got very powerful in rebels I was fine with that , he used the light side but also dark but he wasn’t controlled by the dark side he’s one of few that controlled the dark side but was not tempted by having more power , He is one with power but does not chase such power instead chases a way of life and a safe home for his friends and family , Ezra’s force connection with animals should show he’s a very instinctual character with pure intent and desire
I don't know why fans would be upset by his power level. He was talented in the force to begin with and we watched for season of character and power level progression with him. And, for at least the last decade in the timeline he's been alone and conceivably in a constant battle for his own survival and has managed to stay alive the whole time on an unknown world with the constant threat of Thrawn, the Nightsisters, and the forces they can muster against him. His circumstances would have caused his power level to rise greatly the same way it happened with many Jedi during the Clone Wars when the constant battle made them have to always be sharpening their skills in life or death situations. This isn't a Rey situation where with zero training she can all of a sudden use Mind Tricks and lightsaber fight a trained Kylo Ren.
I agree with both of you. BUT we are talking about the Star Wars fan base.
I watched most starwars, even cartoons I wouldn't be surprise how strong he has become since it's a given if people has actually watched rebels though I wouldn't say he was jedimaster lvl then he should've at least reach jediknight or mid to top lvl of that. what I'll be upset about is if he actually succumb to darkness despite all the things he went through in rebels and all he has learned. Kanan might not have been the strongest jediknight but the dude can train a padawan well not just in combat but I would say be in tune to the living force. if you watched rebels Kanan has always taught ezra not just being a jedi but life itself. if he suddenly be go dark dark dark kid... it would be weird but if there's a good explanation how... then ugh depending on how good it is ok.
@@R3FU3D "BUT we are talking about the Star Wars fan base."
That is a significantly important point, even though it may not see so. Star Wars fans love to wildly speculate on every little thing. Even though that speculation is proven absolutely wrong about 99% of the time.
The idea that the simplest solution is usually the best (or maybe better stated as most likely), SW fans still like to throw out wild speculation based on even the most obscure or unimportant details.
This is a holdover from all of the Extended Universe (Legends) material, where authors would take these tiny little details, that were probably afterthoughts to Lucas, from the movies and turn them into these giant plot devices that drove ridiculously over-written stories.
Ezra collected helmets before. Collecting dog tags in an environment with far less storage and resources makes sense. I'm sure in the beginning, Thrawn sent many troopers after Ezra. However, I suspect Thrawn's forces were diminished by a combination of Ezra and raiders. I hope Ezra has not turned to the dark side.
probably he's using both sides of the force, like Ahsoka and Baylan.
The 3 of them together is a rare conglomeration of grey/both sided force wielders.
He has already turned to the dark side during rebels after Kanans death sinice he wanted power to prevent the loss of another friend
@@moosemax6346 he was far from turned when he turns down the of bringing his parents back that kind kills that because it shows that he let go
I have to admit, having Ezra be twisted up after being in this unknown galaxy would be an awesome twist. They have been looking and hoping to find Ezra all this time, and for him to be twisted would be an awesome twist. Awesome video!! 👌🏼 👍🏼
I think him being twisted would be Dave's way of bringing a insane jedi Joras C' boathouse from heir to the empire novels. Would be a good twist
I think an awesome twist would be if Maul's ghost was with Ezra this entire time.
@@shadowcatcherfox5186 Mother is on location ...
Indeed! I’d love it if something so dark were to happen.
Well imo , ahsoka , sabine , ezra, thrawn allw ont ever come back to the known galaxy they will die and be stuck in the far far away galaxy to never be seen again
I dont think Ezra is evil. I think he knows about the darkness on the planet and it is why he is ready to go home and why the noti are nomadic. The dog tags are just a new helmet collection without having to pack all of them around when the caravan moves.
I dont see the Noti species as having one evil bone in their body so it makes no sense to me that they would stay by Ezras side so happily and willingly.
I would like to think Ezra is not wearing the dog tags as trophies. But as morning for the storm troopers that have been killed and reanimated by the knight sisters. He has seen the terrible things that Thron and the night sisters have done.
i think this would be the most likely.
I agree. Or maybe there was a mutiny against Thrawn, and those were the dogtags of those who chose to fight with Ezra against Thrawn
I don't remember which book I read long ago in Legends, but Storm Trooper Dog Tags are made out of Beskar so it probably just made his own chain mail armor to protect himself.
@@JadoCast That would be a good explanation. Bullet- and lightsaber proof armor would definietely help him stay alive all this time.
He could have been a hero among the Stormtroopers during the early years but when the Night Sisters showed up, their was a miniature civil war between Ezra's side and Thrawn's side leading to the creation of the Night Troopers
Ezra could just learn new force powers, and the dog tags are a reference to how he use to collect stormtrooper helmets and dog tags make good clothes
Yeah Ezra has been collecting storm troopers helmets from days old. He seems to have some kind of fascination with their armour and stuff they wear.
We've never seen stormtroopers wear dog tags. So Ezra wearing them is pure speculation just looking at style of his mail armor.
3:27 remember Thrawn is master tactician. He is husbanding his resources and decided not to waste resources on keeping Ezra in custody. I'm betting those trooper tags belong to the night troopers. Where is Ezra gonna go? He can't leave the planet, he doesn't have the resources to take Thrawn head on, or even guerilla style. Ezra has changed he will not be a Jedi, but between Ashoka and Baylon.
How Sabine found Ezra, was the most archetypal "trust in the force" version of coincidences stumbling together. Raider ambush, sensor destroyed, wolf horse finds local sentients, local sentients are part of the rebellion, leads her to Ezra in a location they wouldn't be in tomorrow. No one but a Jedi would have found him so fast and in this way.
Stormtrooper dog tags? Or maybe its just chainmail/scalemail armor under his clothes.
An insane Ezra would be amazing. If he turned Dark it would make sense.
Fun fact, and something I didn’t think about/notice till just now. The fight between Shin and Sabine in the first episode of Ahsoka was the first live action lightsaber fight between 2 women. Also, I never felt there was anything romantically going on between Ezra and Sabine, besides Ezra flirting with her when he first met her. That’s why I’m in the Sabine and Shin shipping camp, which would also be the first gay/lesbian couple on screen in star wars, and makes sense for those 2 characters, cause they’re both not very “girly”, and if Thrawn ends up killing Baylan for actually not killing Ahsoka off, Shin could very likely join Sabine and Ezra to get revenge on Thrawn, and/or continue Baylan’s cause in some way, depending on what that ends up being. And Sabine and Shin both have that rebelish, stubborn, and dark tendency nature, the latter Shin more than Sabine of course, so I think they could compliment each other well, learning a lot together and from each other. I don’t know if Dave would go there, but I’d love to see it, not for the sake of representation at all, which I don’t care about, but because it could actually make sense for the characters and the story.
@ncard00 honestly that would be great just the problem is that Disney or any other network been adding more gays which is not bad but lately they been over doing it especially in cartoons in my opinion star wars wasn't really about gays I think they would keep it straight as possible that's what I think
"He arrived to early in the series"
Some people just asshats i swear.
Y'all gonna complaint if the series is "Overlonged" or "Wasting Time" if they don't bring Ezra in episode 6.
If you watched the show Supernatural for the 15 years it was on the air, then, you know never to expect a character who's been gone for an extended period of time to be the same person.
It seems too good to be true but I think it’s him. I think he did kill a lot of Thrawn’s soldiers but, he’s not the big bad Baylon is sensing. Especially seeing him with those cute little ugly rock snail creatures. I think people really need to get over dark vs light in these situations. He is a survivor and he can no longer live the rules the Jedi order enforced. I think whatever is calling Baylon, is protecting Ezra and that’s what Thrawn is afraid of. When Ashoka arrives the shizz is gonna hit the fan.
It would be interesting if it was abeloth controlling Ezra. You mentioned that he could be a bit mad. Who is an ancient demon that is known for causing madness? Abeloth. Instead of baylen being attracted to abeloth, Abeloth could be using Ezra as a conduit of some sort. She has had thousands of years to plot her return. She may be using it as a trap to kill all who can sense her power. In other words, she may be using Ezra to kill baylen to keep her presence unknown until the time is right.
Same thing I thought bro
star wars equivalent of mephisto from marvel😭
She's not the only Celestial being to be corrupted. Nakhash and Typhojem are there as well
Lmao all these abeloth shills… get outta here with these theories.
@@LegendaryGoetz while I don't know how to feel about the theory, you can't blame them. Abeloth was the first fresh thing in SW for a long time, and is certainly fresher than the sequels. Hell, the Jedi and Sith didn't even kill her, they just put her back to sleep because she is far beyond their means to destroy. For star wars, that's fresh as fuck.
You misinterpreted what Thrawn said. Thrawn: "You've gambled the fate of your galaxy, on that belief?". He isn't saying that Ezra being alive would be a threat to the galaxy. Thrawn is just questioning if Sabine's belief of Ezra being alive is what motivated her to provide Thrawn a way back to Galaxy-1 -- which in and of itself is the fate changing catalyst of the galaxy.
In other words, Thrawn felt a bit offended by what she said so he decided to express how he found it difficult to believe that she would risk the entirety of the galaxy on just the slight glimpse of hope that she could see her friend again, a single person. In other words this was Thrawn's version of a calculated rational clap-back to Sabine, he roasted her intelligence.
People that is a very popular armor type in many cultures, especially the samurai who used it and we all know that samurai are a main influence
Yeah he's fallen so bad he's performing selfless Jedi acts like assisting that race of beings with packing up to move to another location. Very dark stuff
If we compare what Ezra was wearing before and after, his clothes seem to be in taters, and he could be wearing the tags as a form of armor in this unknown/uncharted galaxy to protect himself since resources could be scarce. The same could be said with Thrawn, due to resources being scarce he wants to focus on not losing as much as possible and stays away from Ezra bc that could cause further problems for him.
In legends (not sure about cannon), there were sith who only existed without being bloodthirsty, or Ezra has become a Grey Jedi or even surviving by only acting in defense of himself like a Jedi.
Thank you for bringing back the fun introductions. Missed them. Much better than "What's up guys." This is what sets you apart and puts you on a higher level of commentator as you show respect for the property more than others. Major props!!
At the beginning of this video I imagined Ezra being Abolth in disguise. That weird armor Ezra is wearing is really a depiction of Aboloths teeth. If anyone is Aboloth in disguise it's probably Baylan. Just Saiyan awsome show
How could this be too soon to see Ezra? There’s only two episodes left and we probably won’t get a Season 2 until 2025.
Shhhh.... we're not supposed to think about it too much else we realize YT kids are just making content for clicks.
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if it gets a second season or just doesn't spin off into another show
What if Ezra is actually becoming a grey Jedi? This would be super cool. I am all for this..
Cowinkydinks and Guess Who I ran into happen all the time in the Galaxy. I'm not mad at all that Sabine found him so quickly, she's a mandalorian.
Reading too much into this. Yes Sabine found Ezra fast. Artoo found Kenobi in two days. Luke found Yoda in about a half an hour. On quite large planets. They have to cut down search time on planets or it would take its own TV series or movie just finding them on one planet, let alone the entire galaxy.
I just dig the beard on Ezra. Makes him look like a castaway (which, in fact, he is).
I'm one of the posters that question Ezra. ... From my view it has a lot to do with Baylan's description of the planet itself. ... It's not that I believe he's turned to the dark side. It's that I don't believe it was him. ... He wasn't concerned enough about how Sabine got there & where others were. ... I mean, he must have seen Thrawns ship arrive to the Night Sister's fortress & know that they know Sabine is there. ... He was just too relaxed about it all, IMO.
As said in this video, I also believe the odds are low it's anything but Ezra & simply not enough time in the episode/series to develop things with it all.
Hey, shall see & know soon enough 🎉
@The Stupendous Wave thank you for finally showing that Easter egg! No other channel has caught that yet! Congrats 👏🙌
I swear, if Abeloth shows up in the Season Finale of Ahsoka, I'm....going.....lose it!!!!
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Yo, just me or Ezra looking like Moses. He leading those crabs to the promised land.
Him caring for the turtle people kinda kills the theory that he’s turned dark, I believe if he turned dark we would’ve found him in kind of a darker, more solo situation. I don’t think that’s the kind of picture they were trying to paint for his character 🤷🏽♂️
unless he is mass mind controlling them ha
He could just be using them it doesn't mean much imo
@@TheGoldenBoot-cz1do using them for what though?
@flykhai9672 could be as simple as staying hidden and fed till he's ready. They never dive into this but fr what're you gonna eat if you show up on a planet you've never been to 😂
@@TheGoldenBoot-cz1do it just seems really out of his character to do that because he was always super compassionate to others in general. But anything is possible for sure, being stuck on a foreign planet can do that to a man 😂
People are overanalyzing the whole Stormtrooper dog tags chainmail thing, Ezra wouldn't exactly have the greatest options for protection on an abandoned world in another Galaxy.
Ezra corrupted or driven to madness would be interesting, but the simpler explanation is more likely. Disney Star Wars tends to avoid complexity in stories and characters, so Ezra is probably just a pure, straightforward good guy.
True, Disney doesn't have the capacity to take steps in that direction
I don’t think Ezra has turned, but I do think that just like Sabine he is hiding the details of what living in this graveyard of a planet has cost him. It would, however, be very interesting if he was part of Skoll’s plan to break the wheel
would be a sick twist if Ezra is actually the one that 'calls' Baylan.
as for sabine finding him so quickly. i think it has allot to do with Andor and how that show was stuctured. lots of people complained about it been slow. with only 8 episodes to establish all main characters and setting up the plot people would complain if there was 2 episodes of sabine and her dog just looking for ezra.
Ezra maybe the only Jedi that can use the Darkside without being controlled by it. Perhaps Anakin has been tutoring him. So, Grey Jedi????
I’m cool with that, that actually sounds awesome!!
If baylan &/o shin challenge Ezra and he says oh yeah? And goes full sith eyes in response, then just turns it off and starts joking with Sabine after flattening them 😮🤷🏼♂️👍🏻
An interesting Theory ...
Why not, Let Ezra be one with the glowing red Sith pyramid holocron. Wasn't he tainted by it , trained by it ? Didn't he defend Darth Maul for a little bit ?
Let him be a dark lord....Disney has shit all over Star Wars...why stop there...lol
Ezra has the traits of psycho path....look at his Trooper dog tag chain mail...only a killer, would collect and wear trophies like that.
Trophy-taking acts as “a signature” and becomes part of a killer's murder ritual..Various serial killers would comment that they would use the trophies collected from their victims to 'enhance' their memories of the killings.
Would Ezra be the reason why Thrawn wants to leave the planet asap ? Whatever the plot twist that would be interesting indeed. Great video.
I think that the hero going to the dark side is a tired narrative that they dont repeat. Also....then conclusion of the season 1 kinda killed most of that argument. He built a new BLUE saber.
Dont. forget Ezra was a teen and fighting a rebellion he 100% has PTSD. Second humans are social imagine the isolation he must feel. However, he was allowed access to the world between worlds which has we know is a gateway through all time and space. The world would know Ezra would turn into something evil and would never have allowed him access. Good Ole Palps couldn’t get in he had to access to access it through a vision using night sister magik. I think Ezra is just a much Harder and Stoic version of his old self.
But as we all know this could age like milk on a summer day.
I found the reunion weird. It might be that the two actors have no chemistry together, but I expected more from the reunion.
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I Can imagen our last scene in the last episode would be Ezra with his arm wrapped around Sabine walking away all cheerful and at the last second he turns his head to the audience and smiles menacingly.
Thriller style
I don't believe Ezra has turned evil. Possibly used some dark side abilities, sure, but I think Ezra would be in balance.
Same thought here
Those aren't stormtrooper dog tags, its lamellar armor to tie into the nomadic lifestyle he probably had to embrace on the planet. Most nomads in history used lamellar armor since it was a quick way to make easily repairable and economic armor. Plus, stormtrooper dog tags are supposed to be disk things according to comics so
It's just lamelar armor not dog tags. Stormtroopers don't even have dog tags.
Let's look at the fundamental philosophy of Grandmaster Yoda before jumping to these conclusions..."too quick you are to find truth without knowledge". Now let's look at how easily Luke found Yoda when he crash landed on Degobah. Its hasty to draw conclusions without the bigger picture. The Ashoka series has a budget, and it could also be that certain events are forced before they can be properly fleshed out due to that budget. How does one know for certain that Ezra hasn't been fighting for the light and is growing tired of the violence...much like Ashoka herself did. I feel it's way too hasty to draw the conclusion of Ezra's "fall" just as many assumed falsely about Luke's turn to the dark side in his attempt to defeat Vader, which he ultimately rejected. Its all speculation, and as Obi-wan would likely phrase it, 'your suspicion (based out of fear) clouds your judgement in the force'. Assuming isn't the Jedi way, but that of a sith acolyte...
Man Ezra has been there 10 years!! What do people expect? Plus they pulled that Ezra falling for the dark side of the holocrom before! How is it too soon? Hell it’s only 2 episodes left!
GAH! you can't just put up creepy full-screen pictures of Abeloth like that without warning!!
Ezra is a war criminal who has literally always kept trophies from his kills. him having new ones doesnt mean hes gone dark
I will love Ezra when he goes on a rampage.
Turned to the dark side? Not unless they've pulled a last jedi on Ezra and totally screwed up his character.
Why did we find him so quickly? Because some Jughead only ordered 9 episodes.
Seems like an intense reach to try to force the son theory to work.
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I love how wild and rampant the Star Wars Theories get every week, just for the actual show to go nowhere near it.
I don’t see dogtags, I see chainmail. Ezra is a good guy, I don’t think they would subvert his character growth in Rebels.
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Didnt know stormtroopers actually have dogtags. He would of been more likely to have a row of stormtrooper helmets to use as musical instruments, rather that colect something so small
So.. how exactly do Stormtroopers wear dog tags?..
erza would never fall to the darkside, filoni said it
I thought Ezra might be wearing a chain mill shirt like Grogu.
To be fair. Ezra hasn’t been on screen enough to really even get a feel for him
Critical feedback - perspectives have to change. I think this is what Dave is trying to tell us. Baylon and Shin are the respective post "Rebels" example. Ezra's whole story is about being different; Kanan Jarrus had to learn this and train him differently. Even Bindu knew this and tried to get Kanan to understand it in Rebels. We have to stop thinking like the old galaxy -black and white, good and bad...that is Baylon's point when he says he wants to end the cycle. This is Thrawn's point when he wants to return to the main galaxy. This is why your theory is flawed. Ezra is way more powerful than anyone imagines because he can walk the line between both rather than succumb to only one...again just like Baylon...Ashoka and everyone else in the story that Dave F. is telling us about.
I wonder if Ezra might have developed a variation on Mace Windu's Vaapad
No way he's dark sided, he is helping the villagers and the dog tags are trophies which he always collected.
Thrawn says “Your” Galaxy when speaking to Sabine does that mean that the Chiss are from this new galaxy and not from the main Star Wars one?
If you was evil or insane why would he befriend those little crab creatures
There are only 8 episodes! Idk why I feel so strongly about this but there are just to many theories. Can we just enjoy instead of theorizing everything?!?!?
Abaloth isn't dark side. She has both light and dark, but chaos. The father has both light and dark but order.
He's 100% not turned to the darkside. He acts civil and kind when he sees Sabine again, he protects the Noti natives, and he doesn't have any yellow eyes. And I doubt that he had knowledge of the same ability Palpatine used to hide his sith eyes.
He's been able to flip eye color since the finale of rebels season 2
@@BillyBasdthere was no change in eye color
@@BillyBasd That was because the sith holocron was reflecting in his eyes.😂
I sure hope Ezra has not turned to the Dark Side, too cliche for me. I would love to see Ezra be stronger than that and from what I saw I believe him to be so, after all he experienced with Maul, etc.
Same
Ezra hasn’t turned to the dark side. He’s literally defending the defenseless. There’s nothing more noble that a stranded Jedi could be doing.
Ezra is giving me those Sinbad vibes ⚔️
Or Ezra has become Starkiller disguised as a clone of Luke Skywalker disguised as Ezra......
“You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”
What if Thrawn and Ezra had some kind of alliance/deal? It's clear that the Night sisters and also Thrawn fear a big threat lurking on Peridia (and I think a certain mother might be it). Thrawn knows and respects Ezra who has become even more powerful. Perhaps over the years Thrawn sent troopers out to measure just how strong he had become, and after Ezra bested all of them (without a lightsaber), Thrawn contacted him and struck a deal to report what he saw in the wastelands, while Thrawn and the sisters could stay safe. In exchange for his role as an informant, the Night Sisters taught Ezra some of their magic, so he could protect the nomad tribe even better. Idk if it's a stretch but it would be cool.
I belive Essenzen of Kujet is on Peridea Zeffo letters abhout him on Peridea.
Ezra turning dark would be so disappointing his whole arc in rebels was him being tested by the dark side and rejecting it
I really hope he has become his masters apprentice A true Jedi to his core
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in episode 7 I wonder why Ezra was so eager to pick up a blaster but not the light saber after he said he didn't need a weapon. Does the light saber color change immediately to identify which side of the force the holder is on? It happened in the Star wars visions anime but i didn't know if it happened in the live action world too. Do you think that is why he wasnt eager to take it?
Why does Ezra have to turn to the dark side. He had a whole arc during rebels
Exactly!
It's dumb to believe he'd turn to the dark side. He would never disrespect Kanan's memory that way. Ezra is probably the most empathetic character within the Star Wars universe. He literally made Hondo fall for his kindness. He made his choice when he denied Maul. He doesn't care about revenge. He chose to sacrifice himself. He doesn't need revenge for his choice. Ezra may be doing things his own way but at the end of the day, whatever Ezra does will align with his moral compass. Kanan believed in him. He wouldn't go dark side.
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Can hardly blame Ezra as"WE ALL GO A LITTLE MAD SOMETIMES "😂 Anyone in these comments who said this infamous line??
I disagree with him being a dark sider would “detract” from the story. He was a literal kid during rebels and he literally spent a decade+ in a literal alien galaxy, with everything that comes with it. I think it would enhance the story.
It does seem it was suspiciously easy for him to escape the Chimaera TWICE, both arriving in a new galaxy (to be fair we don't know the circumstances of his escape) and back to the original galaxy. What if Thrawn has twisted him through torture, it would then make sense to let him go. There's no way he didn't know where Ezra was. It was too easy for the night sisters to locate Ashoka.
This is also a TV show with with limited time and episodes and it's a show about ahsoka. Ofc they gonna find ezra fast lol
NOPE. THE TURTLE PEOPLE PROJECT A BUBBLE OF LOVEY CUTNESS THAT KEEPS EVIL AWAY
I hope they don’t turn him dark. His selflessness was what was so endearing about him
Agreed
Look he might have some minor mental problems from launching himself into the unknown but i feel like this blueberry knows himself too well to suddenly go on a murder spreen again lol homie is chilling with peaceful turtle people, he seems fine to me. And you cant blame thrawn for picking the night sisters over ezra.
There are only two episodes left in the season. Some storytellers know when it is time to move the story along so they can get to the finale.
Also... continuing to fight the enemy, regardless of the new environment, isn't proof of going dark; it is proof Ezra is still fighting the same fight.
This theory spits in the face of Ezra's character development in Rebels. I get that you can acknowledge that but come on.
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Maybe she's born with it.
Maybe she's Maybelline Sabine.
He hasn't fallen. Not a chance.
The reason she found him so quickly. Is because she knows what he smells like lol.
Lol love the callback
Sabine did not find him "there are no coincidines in the force"..... if he had fallen to the dark he would have powerful servants and not be a nomad moving target. show me who your friends are and I will tell you what you are......
I think they're trying to push it along since there's currently only 2 episodes left in the series, it was more to bring the characters back and setup a continuation of rebels :)
They need to be careful with how they explain Ezra’s time in this new galaxy. I really hope they don’t ruin all that rebels did
One theory I wanted to put out there is the idea that we have a huge, world-ending battle coming. The reason I say this is because of Baylan and Shin's last names. Baylan "Skoll" and Shin "Hati" is suspicious as someone who understands Norse myths. In Norse mythology, Skoll and Hati are the giant wolves that chase the sun and the moon and are considered as one of the precursors to Ragnarok. Once they eat the sun and moon then Ragnarok begins. I don't know what Baylan and Shin would "eat" in order to begin this battle, but I feel like their names are significant.
I think a lot of people are forgetting the Son and Daughter in the clone wars cartoon play a huge roll in Ahsoka. Ahsoka literally has the life force of the Daughter in her and I think that maybe the Son is going to be present at some point in the series. Maybe, this isn't Ezra at all and secretly the Son who is going to manipulate Ahsoka by turning her padawan towards the dark. If I remember correctly, the Son has the ability to shape shift and show people their dark futures.
I could maybe see him using some darker force abilities and what not like we see him do in season 3. but him completely falling just doesn't seem right.