Very good review this car is great for canyons as well. The alcantara is looking new after 2 years so far. These are very reliable and strong low end torque over the stang. Great vid!
Correction...the Mustang GT PP2 is targeting the Camaro SS 1LE, unsuccessfully so I will add. That Camaro sounds good all the time, ranging from an annoyed bobcat at idle to a raging mountain lion in an instant. It is ferocious beast and one that I must simply get my hands on.
I have a 2020 1SS 1LE. I bought new June 2nd of that year. My best friend actually bought the 2020 mustang gt pp2 that I had test driven just a few days before. He bought it on June 4th that year. My car is a garage queen where his is primarily a daily driver. He has 10k miles on that pp2 now and is already on its second transmission. The mt82 6spd manuals in those cars are built in China. His car now has a tremec tr6060 like my 1SS 1LE.
@@officialtjtrev8910 its just bean counter stuff. Ford actually put the Tremec TR 6060 in the Shelby GT350. I haven't looked to see if the new mach 1 has it?
This is a future legend. Every time you accelerate through the rev range the sound triggers the memory of Corvettes at Le Mans. Such great memories. LT1, Tremec 6060, magnetic shocks, 305 rears, are you kidding me? How could this get any better? Ymmv and is irrelevant 😁
2018 2SS 1LE owner here, great review guys! I've taken mine to 14 track days - the SS 1LEs will take hard lap after hard lap at the track and never complain. GM got the cooling and mechanics *right* on this car. One extra trick worth noting that this car has that a Mach 1 wouldn't is the eLSD - the SS 1LEs have rear differentials with electronically controlled clutch packs that really let you put the power down coming out of corners. Other difference worth noting with a new Supra is the room inside the cabin. I'm around 6'2" and can get really comfortable in a Camaro. The Supra - not so much, it felt like I was sitting in a Miata in there. So if you're a taller person, make sure you sit & drive around in a Supra before you pull the trigger on one.
It’s beyond me why this car didn’t sell so good compared to dodges and mustangs. I guess cause the corvette is even better than Camaro that they decided they didn’t need it anymore. So sad. I’m never selling mine!
Paid MSRP for my 2022 1SS 1LE earlier this month. It sits in my garage with only 47 miles today. Can't wait to get it broken in and see what this beast can do!
Thanks! We were not always called TTC, we have rebranded since. All that being said, the Gen 6 (especially the 1LE) is incredible. Our car content has now moved to TTC Cars. Thanks for watching!
Just ordered my 21 2SS 1LE in satin metallic, exactly 55K. Can't wait! Sold my 21 Challenger Scat Pack to do this so I hope it's worth it. I loved that Scat Pack widebody.
Goodness, the Challenger Scat Pack Wide Body is our pick of the Mopar litter. BUT, the SS1LE still manages to be a better drivers car. Congrats on the purchase!
You will LOVE this car, I had a grin a mile wide on my face every time I got behind the wheel, miss my 17 so damn much that I went and ordered up a 22 in Summit White a few months back.
One of your best videos! All I can say is WOW! I’m surprised how much you both liked this car. Looks like you guys should own one! Oh, and the red seat belts rock…..and I’ll bet they work better for the color!!! 😁
I just ordered one of these (well, a 2SS 1LE, but whatever). It'll be my third Camaro, but my first in well over a decade. Coming from a 2000 Z/28 as my last, it's insane how far they have come with these cars. I'd heard nothing but whining and griping about how it is fat, or it's cramped and difficult to see out of. I can't help but feel these people are coming from Camry's or something, because that's just the way these cars are...and I felt perfectly comfortable taking one out for a test spin having absolutely zero experience in it. It felt shockingly nimble and exciting to drive - a riot, even. It had NO lack of tail-happiness. Honestly, a ZL1 is an absolute monster, but it made me wonder: "do you REALLY need much more power in these things?!" - unless you're racing, of course. Thanks for the fun, no-BS review!
The price of the new Mach 1 and 350 is way more than the 2SS 1LE.... I have the 21 1SS 1LE and absolutely love it. Mustangs are on every street corner when you pull up to an intersection....
Nice review! I have an '18 1SS 1LE I got brand new for $39k. That was good timing! I'm pretty sure you can order one for $45k right now, it's almost the same price as they sell for used. Probably a 9 month wait or so I'd guess. I'm a fan of the new Mach 1, but the price ruins it for me. Coulda got a 350 for a similar price, but otoh the 350 isn't exactly reliable. SLE is pretty hard to beat all things considered. Alcantara and all the faux suedes can be cleaned just like any other synthetic fabric, but it's gotta be done regularly. If you clean it, it will look like new for many years. My car has about 28k miles on it and the interior looks like new. It's hard to fully appreciate this car without driving it at 10/10ths. The car just gets better the faster you go and it's predictable at the limit. It also has an optional GMPP autox tune for the rear e-diff available, combined with GMPP solid rear cradle bushings from the ZLE, makes this car excellent for autox.
This car has an oil cooler, transmission cooler and a rear differential cooler, its built for ALL day track use, I put mine to the test at Mid-Ohio, and the car barely broke a sweat. One of the best handling cars on the planet, you'd actually have to step up to the ZL1 1LE to feel a noticeable difference, and that one starts at $73,000. Not to mention that the rear differential is the electronic limited slip diff out of the Corvette. You really get ALOT of performance for the dollar with the 1LE package.
Good job...glad to see you drive it like you stole it. My 19 Black 1SS 6 speed Tremec hauls ass and is super comfortable. Only paid $34k. Kinda hard to beat the value. On the other hand, by adding a smaller pulley to a ZL you could easily accelerate like the new Z06 for a lot less money and still row your own gears. So I'm leaning toward buying the ZL 6 speed instead of the Z06.
The day I bought my 1SS 1LE, there was a zL1 6spd sitting next to it on showroom floor. It was 25k more! I figured 25k invested in the 1SS 1LE would blow the paint off of that zL1!
I've had this car, convertible 2ss, since Aug 2020. And I'm telling you reading this right now. I've driven every car under the sun from every decade.... THIS CAR IS BADDDDDDDDDDD. It's perfect. 100% perfect. I wouldn't change ANYTHING. It will blow ur mind. I'm not exagerating
The Mustang MT82 Getrag trans is fine for track use. In most cases it just needs a better clutch than the OEM. Better fluids help too. Sadly the mustang comes Factory filled with trans and diff fluids that are geared more towards fuel economy than protection. Using better fluids such as Amsoil in the trans and diff should take away most concerns with heat that some of the GT’s have displayed when being reviewed on the track. My 17 GT has been solid. It makes 611 Wheel HP and the stock MT82 hasn’t complained.
I had a 15 GT PP and used multiple differential fluid swaps to cure the transmission. Royal Purple, Red Line you name it. Sometimes on high rpms the car would lock me out of 4 gear in power shifting. Never will own a mustang again with a mt82 getrag. The car would also shake and make thud noise when you shift into in first gear. First time that happened, i had to get out of the car to check if the car behind me hit me in redlight. I m in the process of ordering a 2ss 1le in the near future with manual transmission.
My 15 GT kept locking me out of whatever gear it decided each time to the point that I gave up because Ford said it was normal, turns out there is a class action lawsuit concerning the MT82. Complete utter junk, tried everything from fluid changes to the MGW shifter package to no avail.
Guaranteed future collectible vehicle with a six speed manual transmission… Also they just discontinued the wild cherry tint coat color so that color which really is candy apple red will be worth a fortune in 20 year
Interesting car. Just wish GM got the dimensions right. Really looks big. The Mustang looks really good - just wish it had a better trans ( non Mach1 or GT350)
I put Nitto NT555R gen 2s on the rears (295/35/20) and got about 15k out of them. Perfect tire for my 2018 Hot Wheels Edition Camaro. Good video overall, but did you have to wear the Mustang hat? C'mon, man 🤣
@@thagoon8000 you are also forgetting the driveline losses with the transmission. There are youtube videos of both cars competing and if the person knows how to shift, he pulls ahead of the auto. It is rare though, to find a fast shifting person who can take advantage of the no lift shift i can give you that.
The real adversary of the Camaro SS1LE it would be the Shelby GT350 & R, and the newer Mach 1. The PP1 & PP2 Mustang aren't rivals because of the rear axle overheating and its poor shifter design.
The rear axles just need better fluid. They come factory filled with fuel saving 75w85. Any full syn 75w140 or my choice amsoil severe gear 75w110 and the heat is no longer an issue.
I went from a 15 gtpp mustang to a 22 2ss 1le manual. Mustang was a nightmare. Changed the transmission fluid 4 times and even with the MGW shifter and BG synchroshift fluid it would lock me out of gear every once in a while on high rpms.
1Ss ?? Another Camaro review with a striped Down SS Ny a bunch of idiots lol... Real men like me buy loaded 2SS’s. That stripped down Chevy Chevette, has no Bose stereo, no sunroof, no dual temperature controls, no duel Exhaust, no nighttime lighting inside the car, black ugly rims that are covered in brake dust that you have to constantly clean, etc. etc. lol what a waste of money
Lol he must be a 10 year old just learning how to post nonsense on youtube. 1SS with 1le package comes standard with dual mode exhaust. This car is not stripped off infact it has $7000 1le package
Very good review this car is great for canyons as well. The alcantara is looking new after 2 years so far. These are very reliable and strong low end torque over the stang. Great vid!
Correction...the Mustang GT PP2 is targeting the Camaro SS 1LE, unsuccessfully so I will add.
That Camaro sounds good all the time, ranging from an annoyed bobcat at idle to a raging mountain lion in an instant.
It is ferocious beast and one that I must simply get my hands on.
Thank you for saying this! GM came out with 6th gen 1LE and Ford was like "wait, people wanna turn!?" 😂
@@miquellopez7185 You are very much welcome.
I have a 2020 1SS 1LE. I bought new June 2nd of that year. My best friend actually bought the 2020 mustang gt pp2 that I had test driven just a few days before. He bought it on June 4th that year. My car is a garage queen where his is primarily a daily driver. He has 10k miles on that pp2 now and is already on its second transmission. The mt82 6spd manuals in those cars are built in China. His car now has a tremec tr6060 like my 1SS 1LE.
@@Tusuperbis
The manual on the ford mustang is garbage lmao i went with a 10 speed. The camaros definitely have the better manual
@@officialtjtrev8910 its just bean counter stuff. Ford actually put the Tremec TR 6060 in the Shelby GT350. I haven't looked to see if the new mach 1 has it?
Love your final comments. I became a track rat after owning this car...
This is a future legend. Every time you accelerate through the rev range the sound triggers the memory of Corvettes at Le Mans. Such great memories. LT1, Tremec 6060, magnetic shocks, 305 rears, are you kidding me? How could this get any better? Ymmv and is irrelevant 😁
2018 2SS 1LE owner here, great review guys! I've taken mine to 14 track days - the SS 1LEs will take hard lap after hard lap at the track and never complain. GM got the cooling and mechanics *right* on this car. One extra trick worth noting that this car has that a Mach 1 wouldn't is the eLSD - the SS 1LEs have rear differentials with electronically controlled clutch packs that really let you put the power down coming out of corners.
Other difference worth noting with a new Supra is the room inside the cabin. I'm around 6'2" and can get really comfortable in a Camaro. The Supra - not so much, it felt like I was sitting in a Miata in there. So if you're a taller person, make sure you sit & drive around in a Supra before you pull the trigger on one.
It’s beyond me why this car didn’t sell so good compared to dodges and mustangs. I guess cause the corvette is even better than Camaro that they decided they didn’t need it anymore. So sad. I’m never selling mine!
Yea chevy shot themselves in the foot
Best car Chevrolet makes and those brainiacs are getting rid of it…
It's because of the front bumper. It's ugly.
Love the RED seatbelts. You two did a terrific job on this video.
Paid MSRP for my 2022 1SS 1LE earlier this month. It sits in my garage with only 47 miles today. Can't wait to get it broken in and see what this beast can do!
Nannys come off at 500 miles into your break in, then she really wakes up.
With a channel called TTC, wasn't sure about how this review of a Camaro would be. Arguably the best review of the Gen 6 Camaro on UA-cam 👍🏽
Thanks! We were not always called TTC, we have rebranded since. All that being said, the Gen 6 (especially the 1LE) is incredible. Our car content has now moved to TTC Cars. Thanks for watching!
Just ordered my 21 2SS 1LE in satin metallic, exactly 55K. Can't wait! Sold my 21 Challenger Scat Pack to do this so I hope it's worth it. I loved that Scat Pack widebody.
Goodness, the Challenger Scat Pack Wide Body is our pick of the Mopar litter. BUT, the SS1LE still manages to be a better drivers car. Congrats on the purchase!
You will LOVE this car, I had a grin a mile wide on my face every time I got behind the wheel, miss my 17 so damn much that I went and ordered up a 22 in Summit White a few months back.
One of your best videos! All I can say is WOW! I’m surprised how much you both liked this car. Looks like you guys should own one!
Oh, and the red seat belts rock…..and I’ll bet they work better for the color!!! 😁
I just ordered one of these (well, a 2SS 1LE, but whatever). It'll be my third Camaro, but my first in well over a decade. Coming from a 2000 Z/28 as my last, it's insane how far they have come with these cars. I'd heard nothing but whining and griping about how it is fat, or it's cramped and difficult to see out of. I can't help but feel these people are coming from Camry's or something, because that's just the way these cars are...and I felt perfectly comfortable taking one out for a test spin having absolutely zero experience in it. It felt shockingly nimble and exciting to drive - a riot, even. It had NO lack of tail-happiness. Honestly, a ZL1 is an absolute monster, but it made me wonder: "do you REALLY need much more power in these things?!" - unless you're racing, of course.
Thanks for the fun, no-BS review!
The price of the new Mach 1 and 350 is way more than the 2SS 1LE.... I have the 21 1SS 1LE and absolutely love it. Mustangs are on every street corner when you pull up to an intersection....
The SS 1LE is one of the best cars I’ve ever owned. The suspension and brakes are top notch. Test drive one on a curvy road and you’ll thank me
Nice review! I have an '18 1SS 1LE I got brand new for $39k. That was good timing! I'm pretty sure you can order one for $45k right now, it's almost the same price as they sell for used. Probably a 9 month wait or so I'd guess. I'm a fan of the new Mach 1, but the price ruins it for me. Coulda got a 350 for a similar price, but otoh the 350 isn't exactly reliable. SLE is pretty hard to beat all things considered.
Alcantara and all the faux suedes can be cleaned just like any other synthetic fabric, but it's gotta be done regularly. If you clean it, it will look like new for many years. My car has about 28k miles on it and the interior looks like new.
It's hard to fully appreciate this car without driving it at 10/10ths. The car just gets better the faster you go and it's predictable at the limit. It also has an optional GMPP autox tune for the rear e-diff available, combined with GMPP solid rear cradle bushings from the ZLE, makes this car excellent for autox.
@NoNameThanks122 i just put my deposit down for 2019 2ss 1LE with bora attack exhaust 5800 miles for $45000 off vroom
I don't think you will find that car for 40,000 dollars today. Maybe a used car with a lot of miles. Thank you for the video sir.
Preowned about a month ago it was doable. As of today, it will take some hunting. Thanks for watching 👍
I’m waiting on delivery of my 2019 2ss 1LE 45000 with 5800 miles
Ordered a 2ss1le at msrp!
This car has an oil cooler, transmission cooler and a rear differential cooler, its built for ALL day track use, I put mine to the test at Mid-Ohio, and the car barely broke a sweat.
One of the best handling cars on the planet, you'd actually have to step up to the ZL1 1LE to feel a noticeable difference, and that one starts at $73,000.
Not to mention that the rear differential is the electronic limited slip diff out of the Corvette.
You really get ALOT of performance for the dollar with the 1LE package.
Good job...glad to see you drive it like you stole it. My 19 Black 1SS 6 speed Tremec hauls ass and is super comfortable. Only paid $34k. Kinda hard to beat the value. On the other hand, by adding a smaller pulley to a ZL you could easily accelerate like the new Z06 for a lot less money and still row your own gears. So I'm leaning toward buying the ZL 6 speed instead of the Z06.
Congrats on the buy. We would be lying if we said we were not searching for preowned 1LE’s on the regular.
The day I bought my 1SS 1LE, there was a zL1 6spd sitting next to it on showroom floor. It was 25k more! I figured 25k invested in the 1SS 1LE would blow the paint off of that zL1!
Well, maybe I really am your long lost brother...😁
Absolutely agree.
Congrats by the way...👌
Solid review. The Camaro SS is so underrated especially in the 1LE trim.
I like you guys! Glad UA-cam put your channel on my screen
We are glad you did as well! Thanks for checking us out!
Supposedly wearing gloves will extend alcantara life. Good video!’
Thanks!
I've had this car, convertible 2ss, since Aug 2020. And I'm telling you reading this right now. I've driven every car under the sun from every decade....
THIS CAR IS BADDDDDDDDDDD. It's perfect. 100% perfect. I wouldn't change ANYTHING. It will blow ur mind. I'm not exagerating
Great video. Love you guy's chemistry. You have a new subscriber.
Thanks Ricardo, welcome to the channel. We are glad you’re here.
Wow, with the 6-speed manual. The best setup.
I take ss 1le easy upgrades.put in another 150 hp and this thing is a weapon
The Mustang MT82 Getrag trans is fine for track use. In most cases it just needs a better clutch than the OEM. Better fluids help too. Sadly the mustang comes Factory filled with trans and diff fluids that are geared more towards fuel economy than protection.
Using better fluids such as Amsoil in the trans and diff should take away most concerns with heat that some of the GT’s have displayed when being reviewed on the track.
My 17 GT has been solid. It makes 611 Wheel HP and the stock MT82 hasn’t complained.
I had a 15 GT PP and used multiple differential fluid swaps to cure the transmission. Royal Purple, Red Line you name it. Sometimes on high rpms the car would lock me out of 4 gear in power shifting. Never will own a mustang again with a mt82 getrag. The car would also shake and make thud noise when you shift into in first gear. First time that happened, i had to get out of the car to check if the car behind me hit me in redlight. I m in the process of ordering a 2ss 1le in the near future with manual transmission.
@@al151 did you actually change the transmission fluid or just the diff fluid??
@@AB-coyote tried both. Best one i liked for the transmission fluid was the BG Synchro Shift 2. It was smoother when the engine was cold.
My 15 GT kept locking me out of whatever gear it decided each time to the point that I gave up because Ford said it was normal, turns out there is a class action lawsuit concerning the MT82.
Complete utter junk, tried everything from fluid changes to the MGW shifter package to no avail.
It's a Baby ZL1!!
Great video I got the same one in LA for 62k damn there expensive now
Congrats! It’s a bummer that these have sky rocketed. Still worth it in today’s market.
Guaranteed future collectible vehicle with a six speed manual transmission… Also they just discontinued the wild cherry tint coat color so that color which really is candy apple red will be worth a fortune in 20 year
We will be sad if they cancel the Camaro all together.
Good Video
Interesting car. Just wish GM got the dimensions right. Really looks big. The Mustang looks really good - just wish it had a better trans ( non Mach1 or GT350)
Car isn't that big in person, the Mustang is the bigger, heavier vehicle, unless you get into the Mach1, than there about even.
I put Nitto NT555R gen 2s on the rears (295/35/20) and got about 15k out of them. Perfect tire for my 2018 Hot Wheels Edition Camaro.
Good video overall, but did you have to wear the Mustang hat? C'mon, man 🤣
All That...And Then Sum 👏
Soo much better than the mustang
anyone know if the rear seats on the 1SS 1LE are leather or cloth?
color?
Nice 👍🏽
How does paddle shifters work when it’s a manual shift ??
They control the rev match system on the manual trans cars
@@TexasTruckChannel
Oh ok . Way over my head but I love that car !!
@Dallas-Rife-UDX-347-Tennessee Chevy did it this way to save them from having to make two different steering wheels.
@@amiller2121
🤣🤣🤣 yessss !!!
Sleeper y e s I got a 2019 1SS you and I both k the Camaro 10-speed is no joke.
The Challenger is a 50lbs weight.🤣
FYI
your pic of Hasselhoff and his car
That’s a trans am
A Pontiac not a Chevrolet
Wrong brand lol
Don't worry, we were not implying that they were the same brand. We just liked that picture more than most Hasselhoff photos.
Goodyear SC3’s will last 8k-11k miles.
A Supra is made by BMW and its 5 or 600 lbs lighter and it cost more.
How tall are you ?
6’4” or 6’5” depending on the weather.
I have a 2021 10 SPEED 1LE really rare! It’s way faster then the Manual!
Way faster than manual? Not really for someone who can drive and use no lift shift.
@@al151 what are you on dude? 10 speed is obviously faster even worst if he knows how to shift the auto
@@thagoon8000 you are also forgetting the driveline losses with the transmission. There are youtube videos of both cars competing and if the person knows how to shift, he pulls ahead of the auto. It is rare though, to find a fast shifting person who can take advantage of the no lift shift i can give you that.
Yeah and not as much fun you should’ve got the six speed manual
The real adversary of the Camaro SS1LE it would be the Shelby GT350 & R, and the newer Mach 1. The PP1 & PP2 Mustang aren't rivals because of the rear axle overheating and its poor shifter design.
The rear axles just need better fluid. They come factory filled with fuel saving 75w85. Any full syn 75w140 or my choice amsoil severe gear 75w110 and the heat is no longer an issue.
I went from a 15 gtpp mustang to a 22 2ss 1le manual. Mustang was a nightmare. Changed the transmission fluid 4 times and even with the MGW shifter and BG synchroshift fluid it would lock me out of gear every once in a while on high rpms.
@@al151The problem with the lockout is the clutch
I will be blocking your channel. You disrespected all of us Camaro fans by wearing a moosestang hat while driving a Camaro.
Hahahaha! Someone has to stir the pot!
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6 Speed GM cars are Trash.
Like you would know…..
1Ss ?? Another Camaro review with a striped Down SS Ny a bunch of idiots lol... Real men like me buy loaded 2SS’s. That stripped down Chevy Chevette, has no Bose stereo, no sunroof, no dual temperature controls, no duel Exhaust, no nighttime lighting inside the car, black ugly rims that are covered in brake dust that you have to constantly clean, etc. etc. lol what a waste of money
Quick question, what is duel exhaust? Is that where one pipe duels the other for supremacy?
Lol he must be a 10 year old just learning how to post nonsense on youtube. 1SS with 1le package comes standard with dual mode exhaust. This car is not stripped off infact it has $7000 1le package
60,....more than 60.......spd we cant tell you... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣