Thank you for sharing these videos with us. I think it helps people to understand that this isn't rocket science, but that anybody can do it, and it works everywhere except inside a cave. Plus you can start small, then expand as you can afford it. I went to school at Jordan Energy Institute in the Grand Rapids area for renewable energy and electric vehicles. It was the last school in the country to give actual degrees, not just certificates, for these subjects. Unfortunately it closed down in I believe 1995. It's been amazing to watch the industry expand and get so much more mature, with so many more manufacturers now, and the prices have fallen off a cliff. Everything is so much cheaper, more efficient, and have so many bells and whistles it's amazing. Back then, we only had a couple manufacturers of off grid modified sinewave inverters, Trace was the main one. They have since changed names to Xantrex, then to Schneider. There are also other very high quality North American made inverters. Nowadays most everything is high quality pure sinewave that have all kinds of grid interactive and generator capabilities added on to them. We also now have some fantastic DC appliances that are so much more efficient, and don't need to rely on inverters. There are now solar DC mini split air conditioning units, deep freezers, refrigerators, well pumps etc. That just sip a fraction of electricity compared to their AC counterparts. Anyway, I just want to congratulate you for walking the walk and not getting stuck in analysis paralysis. You mentioned that a whole house generator typically costs ten grand plus, can you please give us the growing cost of your system as it grew through time? I think it might help people exploring the idea of going solar. It looks like you understand Volts, Amps, and Watts, but you seem to have trouble with Amp hours, and Watt hours like many people do. I'll try to explain it with the typical water analogy. If Volts is the pressure, Amps is the flow, and Watts is the power, then what are the gallons or quantity? Since you can't pour electricity into a bucket, you have to multiply the rate by time. So if you have ten gallons per hour (gph) of water flowing through a pipe for one hour, then you simply multiply 10gph (rate) × 1 hour (time) to get 10 gallons, (quantity). It's the same thing with electricity, if you have ten amps flowing through a wire for one hour, then you have ten amp hours (Ah). So basically, what I'm saying is that Amps is a rate, and Amp hours, is a quantity. Same thing with Watts and Watt hours (Wh), just multiply the voltage times Amp hours to get Watt hours. To get kilowatt hours (kWh) you just multiply Watt hours by one thousand. This is why the Electric Company charges for electricity by the kilowatt hour, it's the quantity of electricity that you used. Hope that helps and have fun with all of your projects.
It's pretty cool to go back and look at the graphs. You're reminded of not only weather patterns but all the events and sometimes problems you've dealt with. It's like, "See this dip here - this is when I was having trouble with that one string of panels and ... " The good news is, your graph is headed in the right direction! Congrats on your successes and on dealing with the problems.
I have had my eg46500 in split phase for a year this month. I can remember how nervous I was and not sure where to even start but watching your channel and hearing about signature solar I knew I needed to get started. I am so grateful for all the advice you offered and the time you spent on video’s showing us your adventure. My system was worth every penny and plan to make additional investments in the future. The feeling I get knowing I have power independence is up there with…, well I am sure you know as well.
Your videos have helped me greatly with learning and planning my system. I'm still in phase 2 of my setup so don't have batteries or inverters yet. Instead I did 2 solar mini splits and 6kw of panels. ~$10k invested and power bills are down almost $200 a month during our crazy South Texas summer. Anyway, just wanted to thank you again and share an example of how your sharing is helping others.
Basically running same system as you for about a year (EG 6500's and EG4 batteries) but don't have any lights plugged into it. One string of led lights I did have plugged into it once only worked when set to 100%. Seeing an average of $70+ savings a month switching some of the big stuff like our dryer. We also bought a second fridge which is plugged in 24/7. I also added two mini splits which are set much cooler than our old AC as they are on solar/battery. Not to mention we bought a plug in hybrid. Actually savings is probably well north of a $120 per month now. Not to mention, one of the reasons I built my system was to have a power back up during a power outage. We recently had one where the power was out for 8 hrs, yet I was able to run both my fridges, internet, water, TV, PC, and a few lights. Overall, I've been very happy, but, I do plan on building a complete off grid cabin in Maine, some of the issues you mentioned won't do. Will have to research other invertors.
Solar is nice. I'm glad I just went ahead and laid some panels on the ground and got an EG4 6500 running to get my office off grid-ish. After a week my projected power bill is 30$ lower because I work from home and so I use solar power during the time of day where my power is 33 cents an hour. So I'm saving almost a dollar an hour from 3 to 7.
You need to get a micro air soft start for your central air. I put one on my solar system and it's a 3.5 ton. Runs 3kw surge and 1k running. Huge huge difference. Last power outage I ran my 3kw small gen with my eg4 chargeverter, ran my whole house stove,ac,fans,lights,etc. Always needed my 13kw gen before. Love my solar system. Like my eg4 6500ex inverters but hate signature solars customer service tho. Slowly switching over to sun gold power. Keep up the vids Adam
@@AdamDeLay07 now hurry up w your new video it's killing me cuz I am thinking of doing the same thing, I think your doing lol. . . You can only take so much b.s. w sig solar. . Matter fact just ordered some sungoldpower server rack batteries not eg4
Well, Adam, I feel ya. I have almost the exact same system you have (difference is that I have a rack of eg4-ll batteries which are working flawlessly) , and have gone through exactly the same exercises trying to discover oddities. I have experienced almost the same frustrations with Signature Solar eg4 firmware/support, but in my case, being a seasoned engineer, I have experienced less pain working with them... they have been reasonably quick with responses to my queries (in general). I did find it "entertaining" that you called it "tier none" ;)... I don't think I'd personally go that far. I know they are trying to keep up with the big boys, and definitely have a niche market, and they have made great strides. But, the price point, etc, - they are more for the DIY market place, not the professional installers. Perhaps Tier 2. All that said, I'm equally as frustrated with you regarding the flickering lights, and the random switching on and off... literally, everything turns off occasionally for 1 second, I hear the same clicking. I cannot explain that. I believe it is the MQTT firmware/logic. Each firmware release it gets closer to working, but.... whatever. So it goes. As I have LOTS of room in my solar shed, and have a large homestead (several acres, several buildings), I'll find a better use for these. I have separate sub-panels to different locations (one to my office, one to my workshop, one to my tiny house, etc), I'm going to keep this setup for now with a "smaller set of batteries" as my "garage/shed/workshop power station. This setup will allow me to keep those totally areas off grid. Very easy to measure the electric savings. The EG4 solution works, but for me, but not in my "always on" space. The hardware won't go to waste. I am going to build out a new system. I was toying with the Victron solution (I know, not a surprise anymore), but instead, will be going with Sol-Ark all in one 15k system for my main home/living space. Keep the videos coming. Your lessons and ability to share have improved greatly over the last year. I have enjoyed going through your journeys with you. Keep the videos coming, and keep sharing your lessons learned. It is appreciated.
Thanks Howie! In regards to SS support, the last time I sent in a ticket, it took almost 3 weeks to get a response. It's too bad. The "tier none" was in reference to a comment someone else made on the forum. Unfortunately their communication issues stem deeper than just with support. I still think the flickering has something to do with the changes made to allow for 500v on the mppts. I still saw some pulsing on some lights when solar was running high. Even the LV6548V models (the ones with higher voltage) started experiencing flickering issues when the standard 6548s didn't have it. I know some people are utilizing the new "upgrade program" and going with the 18kPV units. I'm still undecided about what I'm gonna end up doing with mine. It seems like people with dedicated applications (one or two appliances) don't seem to have issues with the 6500s. The problem comes when people try to power their entire house and have AC IN connected. All the occurrences I've heard where people don't have issues, they don't have any AC IN. Good luck on your new system! I'll be interested to hear how it goes. Thanks for the kind words. It's been fun!
If you can't track down the real cause of the flickering, be it an earth return path, HF noise getting back from the AC side to the DC side (AC side neutral and battery - are tied to the same earthing system), what ever, think about a small separate known good inverter for the lighting circuit.
Another Michigander here just beginning the same adventure. I have one of the same inverters that lasted 2 weeks and died, 3 weeks in trying to get it replaced and it will be another week at least. I had the exact same thought process regarding the whole house generator, might as well get some money back, right? My setup is different and might be king of unique compared to others I have see on UA-cam. That was a good cliffhanger, want to see what you are up to.
You don’t have to be. You can keep it local and connect to the SA access point to get your info if you want. Activation I believed just gives you your specific website address where you can access your installation from anywhere.
Is there any way to determine how much energy the system consumes to run itself? Each unit draws approx. 70W without any load, but how much does it draw with the loads?
Put a standard AC watt meter on the load, DC clamp meter on the input to the inverter to get amps and measure DC volts at the inverter's input terminals. Multiply amps x volts to get incoming DC watts, compare to outgoing AC watts. Doesn't take power factor induced current into account etc but should be pretty reasonable.
Hi Adam, have you resolved your flickering lights issue? I have updated my EG4 6500ex to latest firmware from March 2023. I only have 1 6500ex. I have noticed flickering at night with the fridge and upstairs lights. The fridge light is the original Edison bulb from when I bought fridge in 2009. Upstairs is LED. Both type of bulb technologies flicker.
I hadn't no, outside of knowing when I turn on certain things, I would have a flicker. Did you have a flickering problem before the latest update? If not, you may have to adjust your ground/neutral bond settings that were introduced in the latest update. Just a guess though.
@@AdamDeLay07 thank ill try to find some info on how to adjust the ground and neutral bond. it may have been after march 2023 update since i do not recall the lights flickering. that's why i hate updating electronics once they work the way oi want. updates can create more problems.
I hope youtube promotes your actual real life reviews of the eg4 6500ex! PSA: Be careful of youtube Solar pumpers hyping up Eg4. Lots of money 💰 flowing into their pockets. I'm glad I found your channel before I made the mistake of building a 6500ex parallel system. Eg4 inverters seem life fun systems to play around with - but it's basically a toy to tinker with and learn with. Not a viable option for 99% of consumers nor professional installers? Also (from what I've read) - the "new" 18kw EG4 aio is a clone of a unit that is getting discontinued from online suppliers for various issues
Thanks for watching. The 6500s do work, but it seems like the cost savings gets “spent” in troubleshooting little issues that drive you crazy. Can you share where you read your info about the new 18kpv? Hadn’t heard that before.
i have had issues with signature solar as well. i am told by employees that i will get a follow up email and then i hear nothing from them. I then call back and its as if it is the first they have heard of it. we all need to start downloading phone recording apps on our phones so we can play back to companies that lie to us. recently, i had a couple ladies from the freight dept. at signature solar tell me they can not do something without a "task" first, but after i get one and wait 3 days for a response i call back and same lady now can help me without the "task' ?? wtf? then another in same dept. says she will email back and never does. signature solar seems to be having ALOT of issues lately.
Sorry to hear that. I've been told time and time again "we're working on it" and then nothing happens. It's really unfortunate because they're putting out a lot of interesting products, but if I can't get someone to respond to my questions, why would I want to buy from them?
@@AdamDeLay07 what I do NOW is I ask for names and I write down date times and keep a track of things. When I call back I get the blank response unfortunately and have to give info again. I am looking for an alternative vendor at same or similar prices. I should not have to call constantly to get simple response for a pitches that is thousands of dollars.
I have also had sig solar problems. Now I'm hesitant to trust them, also add in they promote then drop products after they learn on our dime the problems ( growatt). Once the trust is lost its over. So heard mixed stuff with Ian a 247watt. Current connected I have nothing. Backwoods Solar my local Boys have been decent so I now check what they carry plus I have a 40 year relationship with the company. Tech wise they are generally great.
@@AdamDeLay07 Victron is really nice,they have inverters spacially for you type of use too,whit big transformators that will never flicker lights under big loads,or even changing loads,at least i have never encountered this problem.
@@AdamDeLay07 the only thing they are bad at is the price xD but other than that,the echo system victron provides is just the best for me,monitoring from anywhere in the workd,and control too,seamless working...They also have this new inverter i installed whit a high voltage solar charger...they cannot work in paralel mode tho,but for that they have the other inverter-chargers...its expensive,but i think its totally worth it..maybe you can sell all those inverters you have for a good price and switch to Victron,I would be really curious,if that would solve the flickering for you..or maybe borrow an inverter from someone for a trial to try it out,how it handles your use case...than if it indeed works as i say it does,go in bold whit all the money financially as well xD maybe whit this many subs victron would help you as well whit some price decreases,for making a good videos about it,whit a succesfull happy installing and solving all your problems,i dont know,just ideas flying around in my head,sorry for the ramble :)
@@AdamDeLay07 i just remembered an exemple where i was surprized when we did the stress test...so this inverter is a 6000KVA inverter,and it had an electric water heater on it going whit 2KW consumption,than i made my father go and start welding,whit a welding machine lol,he was melting the iron whit the power of the sun !:)) and the lights didnt flixker,and that was not a continuous load at all,becouse of the electrode touching the iron is really erratic,and its a wery high load,and it endured it.
In reality, every solar system only really starts saving money when it produces enough energy to pay for itself, at that point you are at zero - your investment has paid off, and only after that point do you start saving money purely from a financial viewpoint. This is often forgotten, the payback is usually a few years, the bigger the system the longer, even over 10 years until it starts to actually save money and by then the panels, batteries etc. have degraded. Have you paid off your entire solar system investment by generating electricity from solar panels since January?
While that’s 100% true, you also need to be saving money on your electrical bill so that you can “pay back” the cost of the system. If your not saving any money on your electrical bill at all, you’ve just wasted all that money on your solar system. At that point, it’s just like the “whole home generator” that just sits there for the random power outage. It’s just an expense with no savings.
@@AdamDeLay07 Yes, I agree, it's great to see on the electricity bills that the solar system is working as it should, and so you can see when the system pays for itself, because at the moment you're paying off the whole investment in the solar system by using it, and when you pay it off by generating enough electricity from the solar panels then you can say you're saving money, but not before, just purely from my point of view. Anyway, great video as always.
Thank you for sharing these videos with us. I think it helps people to understand that this isn't rocket science, but that anybody can do it, and it works everywhere except inside a cave. Plus you can start small, then expand as you can afford it.
I went to school at Jordan Energy Institute in the Grand Rapids area for renewable energy and electric vehicles. It was the last school in the country to give actual degrees, not just certificates, for these subjects. Unfortunately it closed down in I believe 1995.
It's been amazing to watch the industry expand and get so much more mature,
with so many more manufacturers now, and the prices have fallen off a cliff. Everything is so much cheaper, more efficient, and have so many bells and whistles it's amazing.
Back then, we only had a couple manufacturers of off grid modified sinewave inverters, Trace was the main one. They have since changed names to Xantrex, then to Schneider. There are also other very high quality North American made inverters. Nowadays most everything is high quality pure sinewave that have all kinds of grid interactive and generator capabilities added on to them.
We also now have some fantastic DC appliances that are so much more efficient, and don't need to rely on inverters. There are now solar DC mini split air conditioning units, deep freezers, refrigerators, well pumps etc. That just sip a fraction of electricity compared to their AC counterparts.
Anyway, I just want to congratulate you for walking the walk and not getting stuck in analysis paralysis.
You mentioned that a whole house generator typically costs ten grand plus, can you please give us the growing cost of your system as it grew through time? I think it might help people exploring the idea of going solar.
It looks like you understand Volts, Amps, and Watts, but you seem to have trouble with Amp hours, and Watt hours like many people do. I'll try to explain it with the typical water analogy. If Volts is the pressure, Amps is the flow, and Watts is the power, then what are the gallons or quantity? Since you can't pour electricity into a bucket, you have to multiply the rate by time. So if you have ten gallons per hour (gph) of water flowing through a pipe for one hour, then you simply multiply 10gph (rate) × 1 hour (time) to get 10 gallons, (quantity). It's the same thing with electricity, if you have ten amps flowing through a wire for one hour, then you have ten amp hours (Ah). So basically, what I'm saying is that Amps is a rate, and Amp hours, is a quantity. Same thing with Watts and Watt hours (Wh), just multiply the voltage times Amp hours to get Watt hours. To get kilowatt hours (kWh) you just multiply Watt hours by one thousand. This is why the Electric Company charges for electricity by the kilowatt hour, it's the quantity of electricity that you used.
Hope that helps and have fun with all of your projects.
Thanks. Yeah I understand watt and amp hours, I’m just not that good at explaining it. Thanks for simplifying it for me though.
It's pretty cool to go back and look at the graphs. You're reminded of not only weather patterns but all the events and sometimes problems you've dealt with. It's like, "See this dip here - this is when I was having trouble with that one string of panels and ... " The good news is, your graph is headed in the right direction! Congrats on your successes and on dealing with the problems.
Love looking at the numbers, Very cool. Can't wait to see what's coming up next 😮
I have had my eg46500 in split phase for a year this month. I can remember how nervous I was and not sure where to even start but watching your channel and hearing about signature solar I knew I needed to get started. I am so grateful for all the advice you offered and the time you spent on video’s showing us your adventure. My system was worth every penny and plan to make additional investments in the future. The feeling I get knowing I have power independence is up there with…, well I am sure you know as well.
Your videos have helped me greatly with learning and planning my system. I'm still in phase 2 of my setup so don't have batteries or inverters yet. Instead I did 2 solar mini splits and 6kw of panels. ~$10k invested and power bills are down almost $200 a month during our crazy South Texas summer. Anyway, just wanted to thank you again and share an example of how your sharing is helping others.
That's awesome! Thank you so much for sharing!
Basically running same system as you for about a year (EG 6500's and EG4 batteries) but don't have any lights plugged into it. One string of led lights I did have plugged into it once only worked when set to 100%. Seeing an average of $70+ savings a month switching some of the big stuff like our dryer. We also bought a second fridge which is plugged in 24/7. I also added two mini splits which are set much cooler than our old AC as they are on solar/battery. Not to mention we bought a plug in hybrid. Actually savings is probably well north of a $120 per month now.
Not to mention, one of the reasons I built my system was to have a power back up during a power outage. We recently had one where the power was out for 8 hrs, yet I was able to run both my fridges, internet, water, TV, PC, and a few lights.
Overall, I've been very happy, but, I do plan on building a complete off grid cabin in Maine, some of the issues you mentioned won't do. Will have to research other invertors.
Thanks for sharing. Glad you haven’t had to deal with some of the issues I have.
Very cool! We have been living off grid for about 4 months now, so will be interesting to see what our numbers look like after 6 months.
Yeah it will!
Solar is nice. I'm glad I just went ahead and laid some panels on the ground and got an EG4 6500 running to get my office off grid-ish. After a week my projected power bill is 30$ lower because I work from home and so I use solar power during the time of day where my power is 33 cents an hour. So I'm saving almost a dollar an hour from 3 to 7.
Always nice to see that savings! Gotta recoup that investment!
Good morning, I'm excited to watch this a few times, thank you
Thanks TJ!
Thanks for the breakdown. The real question is, what’s behind the black blob?
A tractor… 😁
You need to get a micro air soft start for your central air. I put one on my solar system and it's a 3.5 ton. Runs 3kw surge and 1k running. Huge huge difference. Last power outage I ran my 3kw small gen with my eg4 chargeverter, ran my whole house stove,ac,fans,lights,etc. Always needed my 13kw gen before. Love my solar system. Like my eg4 6500ex inverters but hate signature solars customer service tho. Slowly switching over to sun gold power. Keep up the vids Adam
Thanks. Yeah I know I need to get one of those soft starts. It’s on the list of many things to get…
@@AdamDeLay07 now hurry up w your new video it's killing me cuz I am thinking of doing the same thing, I think your doing lol. . . You can only take so much b.s. w sig solar. . Matter fact just ordered some sungoldpower server rack batteries not eg4
@@xjchris4209 been working on stuff all day long.
Nice Teaser Sir!
Thanks! Hope I’ve peaked some interest…
@@AdamDeLay07looks like a blue label…
Well, Adam, I feel ya. I have almost the exact same system you have (difference is that I have a rack of eg4-ll batteries which are working flawlessly) , and have gone through exactly the same exercises trying to discover oddities. I have experienced almost the same frustrations with Signature Solar eg4 firmware/support, but in my case, being a seasoned engineer, I have experienced less pain working with them... they have been reasonably quick with responses to my queries (in general). I did find it "entertaining" that you called it "tier none" ;)... I don't think I'd personally go that far. I know they are trying to keep up with the big boys, and definitely have a niche market, and they have made great strides. But, the price point, etc, - they are more for the DIY market place, not the professional installers. Perhaps Tier 2.
All that said, I'm equally as frustrated with you regarding the flickering lights, and the random switching on and off... literally, everything turns off occasionally for 1 second, I hear the same clicking. I cannot explain that. I believe it is the MQTT firmware/logic. Each firmware release it gets closer to working, but.... whatever. So it goes.
As I have LOTS of room in my solar shed, and have a large homestead (several acres, several buildings), I'll find a better use for these. I have separate sub-panels to different locations (one to my office, one to my workshop, one to my tiny house, etc), I'm going to keep this setup for now with a "smaller set of batteries" as my "garage/shed/workshop power station. This setup will allow me to keep those totally areas off grid. Very easy to measure the electric savings. The EG4 solution works, but for me, but not in my "always on" space. The hardware won't go to waste.
I am going to build out a new system. I was toying with the Victron solution (I know, not a surprise anymore), but instead, will be going with Sol-Ark all in one 15k system for my main home/living space.
Keep the videos coming. Your lessons and ability to share have improved greatly over the last year. I have enjoyed going through your journeys with you. Keep the videos coming, and keep sharing your lessons learned. It is appreciated.
Thanks Howie!
In regards to SS support, the last time I sent in a ticket, it took almost 3 weeks to get a response. It's too bad. The "tier none" was in reference to a comment someone else made on the forum. Unfortunately their communication issues stem deeper than just with support.
I still think the flickering has something to do with the changes made to allow for 500v on the mppts. I still saw some pulsing on some lights when solar was running high. Even the LV6548V models (the ones with higher voltage) started experiencing flickering issues when the standard 6548s didn't have it.
I know some people are utilizing the new "upgrade program" and going with the 18kPV units. I'm still undecided about what I'm gonna end up doing with mine. It seems like people with dedicated applications (one or two appliances) don't seem to have issues with the 6500s. The problem comes when people try to power their entire house and have AC IN connected. All the occurrences I've heard where people don't have issues, they don't have any AC IN.
Good luck on your new system! I'll be interested to hear how it goes.
Thanks for the kind words. It's been fun!
If you can't track down the real cause of the flickering, be it an earth return path, HF noise getting back from the AC side to the DC side (AC side neutral and battery - are tied to the same earthing system), what ever, think about a small separate known good inverter for the lighting circuit.
For the time being, my portable power station is powering one of the devices which causes the flickering on the 6500s.
I'm learning all the amazing things my solar assistant can show me and these videos help. Thanks, is there a way to change the temp to Fahrenheit?
Glad they help!
I believe in the next release of SA, they’re gonna have a switch for C to F.
Perfect thanks I got my 2 inverters working in parallel now with ac output from each finally 😀
Another Michigander here just beginning the same adventure. I have one of the same inverters that lasted 2 weeks and died, 3 weeks in trying to get it replaced and it will be another week at least. I had the exact same thought process regarding the whole house generator, might as well get some money back, right? My setup is different and might be king of unique compared to others I have see on UA-cam. That was a good cliffhanger, want to see what you are up to.
Sorry to hear you had issues with your units. Any ideas why the inverters died? Was it one or both?
@@AdamDeLay07 It was just one unit, worked fine for 2 weeks then started it up one day and got the fatal F09 error, no idea why.
@@markpionk7852 hmm. It’s weird. I’ve heard of a lot of these types of random errors recently.
why are you heating your hot water? :)
I was wondering who was gonna be the first one to call me out on that one… 😁
Just curious if you need to be hooked to the internet to get solar assistance to work, it says it has not been activated!
You don’t have to be. You can keep it local and connect to the SA access point to get your info if you want.
Activation I believed just gives you your specific website address where you can access your installation from anywhere.
Is there any way to determine how much energy the system consumes to run itself?
Each unit draws approx. 70W without any load, but how much does it draw with the loads?
Put a standard AC watt meter on the load, DC clamp meter on the input to the inverter to get amps and measure DC volts at the inverter's input terminals. Multiply amps x volts to get incoming DC watts, compare to outgoing AC watts. Doesn't take power factor induced current into account etc but should be pretty reasonable.
Hi Adam, have you resolved your flickering lights issue?
I have updated my EG4 6500ex to latest firmware from March 2023. I only have 1 6500ex. I have noticed flickering at night with the fridge and upstairs lights. The fridge light is the original Edison bulb from when I bought fridge in 2009. Upstairs is LED. Both type of bulb technologies flicker.
I hadn't no, outside of knowing when I turn on certain things, I would have a flicker.
Did you have a flickering problem before the latest update? If not, you may have to adjust your ground/neutral bond settings that were introduced in the latest update. Just a guess though.
@@AdamDeLay07 thank ill try to find some info on how to adjust the ground and neutral bond. it may have been after march 2023 update since i do not recall the lights flickering. that's why i hate updating electronics once they work the way oi want. updates can create more problems.
@@artvandeleah9952 Take a look at this video: ua-cam.com/video/sPhk6B2aor8/v-deo.html
I hope youtube promotes your actual real life reviews of the eg4 6500ex!
PSA: Be careful of youtube Solar pumpers hyping up Eg4. Lots of money 💰 flowing into their pockets.
I'm glad I found your channel before I made the mistake of building a 6500ex parallel system.
Eg4 inverters seem life fun systems to play around with - but it's basically a toy to tinker with and learn with. Not a viable option for 99% of consumers nor professional installers?
Also (from what I've read) - the "new" 18kw EG4 aio is a clone of a unit that is getting discontinued from online suppliers for various issues
Thanks for watching.
The 6500s do work, but it seems like the cost savings gets “spent” in troubleshooting little issues that drive you crazy.
Can you share where you read your info about the new 18kpv? Hadn’t heard that before.
i have had issues with signature solar as well. i am told by employees that i will get a follow up email and then i hear nothing from them. I then call back and its as if it is the first they have heard of it. we all need to start downloading phone recording apps on our phones so we can play back to companies that lie to us. recently, i had a couple ladies from the freight dept. at signature solar tell me they can not do something without a "task" first, but after i get one and wait 3 days for a response i call back and same lady now can help me without the "task' ?? wtf? then another in same dept. says she will email back and never does.
signature solar seems to be having ALOT of issues lately.
Sorry to hear that. I've been told time and time again "we're working on it" and then nothing happens. It's really unfortunate because they're putting out a lot of interesting products, but if I can't get someone to respond to my questions, why would I want to buy from them?
@@AdamDeLay07 what I do NOW is I ask for names and I write down date times and keep a track of things. When I call back I get the blank response unfortunately and have to give info again. I am looking for an alternative vendor at same or similar prices. I should not have to call constantly to get simple response for a pitches that is thousands of dollars.
@@artvandeleah9952 try Watts247 or current connected.
I have also had sig solar problems. Now I'm hesitant to trust them, also add in they promote then drop products after they learn on our dime the problems ( growatt). Once the trust is lost its over. So heard mixed stuff with Ian a 247watt. Current connected I have nothing. Backwoods Solar my local Boys have been decent so I now check what they carry plus I have a 40 year relationship with the company. Tech wise they are generally great.
18kpv
Sorry, summer colds are the worst. ;)
Might wana get that cough looked at… 😁
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No flickers whit victron equipment mate :)
What equipment do you have?
@@AdamDeLay07 Victron is really nice,they have inverters spacially for you type of use too,whit big transformators that will never flicker lights under big loads,or even changing loads,at least i have never encountered this problem.
@@AdamDeLay07 the only thing they are bad at is the price xD but other than that,the echo system victron provides is just the best for me,monitoring from anywhere in the workd,and control too,seamless working...They also have this new inverter i installed whit a high voltage solar charger...they cannot work in paralel mode tho,but for that they have the other inverter-chargers...its expensive,but i think its totally worth it..maybe you can sell all those inverters you have for a good price and switch to Victron,I would be really curious,if that would solve the flickering for you..or maybe borrow an inverter from someone for a trial to try it out,how it handles your use case...than if it indeed works as i say it does,go in bold whit all the money financially as well xD maybe whit this many subs victron would help you as well whit some price decreases,for making a good videos about it,whit a succesfull happy installing and solving all your problems,i dont know,just ideas flying around in my head,sorry for the ramble :)
@@83kaszas yeah, you do pay a little more but their solid, quality units.
@@AdamDeLay07 i just remembered an exemple where i was surprized when we did the stress test...so this inverter is a 6000KVA inverter,and it had an electric water heater on it going whit 2KW consumption,than i made my father go and start welding,whit a welding machine lol,he was melting the iron whit the power of the sun !:)) and the lights didnt flixker,and that was not a continuous load at all,becouse of the electrode touching the iron is really erratic,and its a wery high load,and it endured it.
In reality, every solar system only really starts saving money when it produces enough energy to pay for itself, at that point you are at zero - your investment has paid off, and only after that point do you start saving money purely from a financial viewpoint.
This is often forgotten, the payback is usually a few years, the bigger the system the longer, even over 10 years until it starts to actually save money and by then the panels, batteries etc. have degraded.
Have you paid off your entire solar system investment by generating electricity from solar panels since January?
While that’s 100% true, you also need to be saving money on your electrical bill so that you can “pay back” the cost of the system. If your not saving any money on your electrical bill at all, you’ve just wasted all that money on your solar system.
At that point, it’s just like the “whole home generator” that just sits there for the random power outage. It’s just an expense with no savings.
@@AdamDeLay07 Yes, I agree, it's great to see on the electricity bills that the solar system is working as it should, and so you can see when the system pays for itself, because at the moment you're paying off the whole investment in the solar system by using it, and when you pay it off by generating enough electricity from the solar panels then you can say you're saving money, but not before, just purely from my point of view.
Anyway, great video as always.
I went to Sol-ark 15k. Price just whent down. I live not to far. I would Love to talk.
How are you liking the solark?
@@AdamDeLay07 so far, worth every overpriced penny
@@bigblockcutlass123 That's the important thing though. If you can forget it's even there, it's worth the cost!