Is the Holy Spirit a person or a force? | UNLEARN the lies
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- Who is the Holy Spirit? Some people seem to think the Holy Spirit is an impersonal force or influence while others deny His very existence, and some simply don’t know who or what the Holy Spirit is. However, I believe the Bible is very clear on this matter.
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Can a person be poured out?
(Acts 2:18)
The Holy Spirit is the “Power” of the Father (Luke 1:35), that is why we worship Him in Spirit and Truth, because the Father is Spirit (John 4:24), the Father is not 3 persons but he is omnipresent all powerful (1 Chronicles 29:11), Yeshua could do nothing of Himself without His Father’s “Power / Spirit ” (John 5:30).
In (John 1:1-3) it says that there were only 2 in the beginning the Father and Word (Son). Also, Yeshua said I and the Father are one (John 10:30), not 3 persons are one.
The Holy Spirit is the holy attributes / power of the Father that are manifested to the world, not a distinct different person. In short the Holy Spirit is the omnipresence of God the Father.
Well said
Agreed
I wouldn't say it's a power. I would say it's the spirit of God being able to be omonioresence.
@@eagleclan75
I like the sound of that. Sounds more personal.
Another vese to consider is “By purity, by knowledge, by patience, by kindness, by holy spirit, by love free from hypocrisy.” - 2 Corinthians 6:6
Why is God and Jesus missing from this verse? The context is revealing. This verse lists things of a "non-sentient" nature. Love is not a person, purity is not, etc, and holy spirit is thrown in there, in 'absense' of God and his Son. This is very telling.
Me and some siblings are researching oneness versus Trinity and I see both, and I see that God can’t be explained so simply by humans, but we are at the tip of the iceberg.
Godhead cannot be compared with any human imagination.
Halleluyah
Same, I see both. The arguments for both are strong but I feel myself coming closer to the right understanding the more I study.
How can you study Oneness for more than a few minutes and not see what hokum it is?
@@colingr318 Thank you for your kind words, but I don’t study oneness. I simply understand God is one and so in that regard those people have it down, in another sense God is 3 in 1 according to scripture and I’m tired of people making names for this. He is one God, 3 in 1 the Father , Son, and Holy Spirit. However, according to scripture we should be being baptized in Yeshua’s name(not Father, Son, and Holy Spirit), so whoever started the other thing is confused. We need to get back to Bible and do our research according to how God leads us not anyone else. I have a book called the Holy Spirit in you, it went well with what God showed me in scripture when I asked him to clear up the oneness understanding. He showed me the time our savior got baptized and the Holy Spirit descended like a dove and the heaven opened and God the Father spoke. So there is a Father, a Son, and the spirit of God. Yeshua sits at the right hand side of the Father but they are one. Like we are a body but are one.
The scriptures personifies the Holy Spirit as it does with wisdom. The Bible also compares God’s spirit to water and associates it with such things as faith and knowledge. These comparisons all point to the impersonal nature of the holy spirit.-Isaiah 44:3; Acts 6:5; 2 Corinthians 6:6.
At Acts 2:1-4&17 the Holy Spirit is said to fill someone and the Holy Spirit can also be poured. Can a person "fill" another person or even people? Or can a person be poured?
Well said! Also, consider scriptures stating that the tongue or mouth speaks (Isaiah 9:17, Jeremiah 9:8, Psalm 37:30, Psalm 17:10, Psalm 49:3, Matthew 12:34, Luke 6:45). Applying the same logic in saying the Holy Spirit is a person because it "speaks," we must conclude that the tongue and mouth are persons...separate entities from the person they're attached to.
In the Garden of Gethsemane, Yahshua prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will" (Matthew 26:39, Mark 14:35). Yahshua had his own will, but chose to do his Father's will. Does the Ruach HaKodesh (Holy Spirit) have a will of its own ... can it choose to obey or disobey Yah? Or is it an immutable part of Yah ... an instrument of Yah, like a mouth, rather than a separate entity from Yah? What would be the purpose of Yahshua sending us the Ruach HaKodesh if it has a will of it own? How then could it help us overcome our own will?
@@polkadots716 Well said!
@@polkadots716 Excellent points! I have always believed the Holy Spirit is not a person but a the gift of the very essence of Yahweh Himself, so that we can better know his ways and align ourselves with Him.
Shabbat shalom everybody.
Shabbat Shalom!
Hola
Shabbat Shalone my Brother... or Sister if thats the case.
@@braggsean1026 I am a brother.
Sylvester Stallone to you too.
Welcome back , sort of😂, we haven't seen this version of videos in a while
Isaiah 63:10 " they rebelled and grieved His holly spirit " whose Holly spirit they Grieved here??? God's holly spirit I agreed with lots of your Videos but not this one , anyway keep the videos coming GOD bless you ,,,,, there's a lot more verses that disproves the holly spirit being a person ...
Shabbat shalom! Amen Baruch ata beshem Yahweh!
Made the earth by his POWER Jeremiah 51:15 KJV
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the angel identified as the Holy Spirit in Isaiah 63 that spoke on behalf of YAH? That seems to be the same pattern followed throughout Scripture.
Noel Torres
Noel do you have or know a good UA-cam video or any teaching I can find .
Once I found out 1 John 5:7 was never in original Greek manuscript
That has had me questioning the "trinity" doctrine which I've also learned has pagan tradition .
The Holy Spirit is a gift you can see that throughout scripture . And I know it's given from The FATHER. It's part of The FATHER . Which would make sense why we can only get it through CHRIST . But I want to understand it more . Including blasphemy of the Holy Spirit . Because when you try to talk about this to people they shun you out or say you committed the unforgivable sin
I bless you as you continue to share what Believers in The ONE TRUE GOD need to UNLEARN. Topics on the 7th Day Sabbath and the PERSON OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, are bold and courageous to impart particularly to those who are in denominations that have accepted the mandates of the Roman Catholic Church, that has been intent on destroying the CHURCH of our LORD for. nearly 1700 years by changing the Sabbath to the 1st Day (worship of the Sun), and raising a mere man above GOD to be prayed to, worshipped, and used as a mediator (in repentance & confessionals) for the forgiveness of their sin(s). I have always enjoyed being a Messianic Jew but I would love to find a Bible believing church that are Sabbath Observant according to The Ten Commandments. It's virtually impossible to find one. Your channel is a beautiful gift, and I pray that many. will actually reconsider the things you share. I am enjoying your anointed ministry. Be encouraged as the. churches MUST eventually step out of Babylon. I consider those churches that hold Sunday as the Sabbath of the Commandments as Babylon, simply because the Day 7 Sabbath was changed & mandated to the 1st Day back in the 321 AD by a man, a pope... and I believe that The BEAST is Catholicism which has dominated Protestant denominations (Methodists, Baptists, Presbyterians, Lutherans, Episcopalians... GREATLY As in the Days of Noah, when the rainbow was GODS SIGN and has since been hijacked by homosexuals...now in these present days of NOAH, the Sabbath on the 7th day is also GODS SIGN that has been highjacked by the agents of satan. I pray for a mass return to Saturday Sabbath observance among all of the Protestant church denominations, and those who do not realize that they are NOT following GOD's Commandment, but rather the command of The Vatican and the POPE. GOD BLESS YOU. If the Sabbath is not to be on the 7th day, then all of the Commandments are null and void, and/or ALL of the TEN have been broken by the congregants of these who have bowed down to the Beast. Amen.
The Beast is King Charles lll, the Pope is the False Prophet ...
If The Holy Spirit is a person, why does Paul never address it in the salutation or close of ANY letter he writes? He addresses both the Father and Son but not the Holy Spirit as a person. Why would he leave it out?
Christ himself framed the understanding of the being of God in Matthew 28:18. Christ instructs us to baptize in the name of the father the son and the Holy Spirit. That statement cannot be changed. We must include the Holy Spirit our understanding of God.
God is Holy (Leviticus 19.2), God is Spirit (John 4.24). God IS the Holy Spirit. So is the Holy Spirit a person? Absolutely, the person of God Himself in action. The same way the spirit of man is not a separate person from the man (See 1 Cor 2.11) Making Gods own Spirit a separate person from God Himself is a doctrinal lie that needs to be UNLEARNT.
YES IT'S WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF ACTS
CHAPTER 5 VERSES
3 AND 4
THEY LIED TO THE HOLY SPIRIT
IN VERSE 3
THEY LIED TO NOT MEN BUT GOD
SO COMBINED
IT'S SAYING GOD IS THE HOLY SPIRIT
HIMSELF
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@@godisreal1394 God has a soul Matthew 12:18 KJV
Yes, Absolutely. The Trinity is truly a great error.
@@SouthernGardensHomestead JW is a cult that you will surely hate leaving once you wake up from the garbage they’ve taught you.
But spirit in Hebrew and in Greek means breath/wind 🌬️. The holy Spirit can speak because it's God speaking. It's God's literal breath / wind.. Ghost just means to breathe out or one's last breath..
I agree. We also seen that it is the presence of The Father and the son in us too,as Christ has described the comforter in John.
Yea, it's kind of like that I guess,
The Ruach is YAHs image that he created us in. When we do somthing richous in YAHs eyes that's the wind / breath from our movment or speak that brings us closer to richousness with the Father.
Others ruach can have interaction with yours, ie proper fellowships. Thats is also meamtioned some times in the 3rd party.
YAHS The head
YAhshuas The body
Ruach The arms and legs, meaning richous actions.
Praise YAH firmly
Praise YAH often
Halalu-YAH !
Explain this scripture then…
Matt 28:19 (KJV)
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Some believers would say the unpardonable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost.
@𝐒𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐢𝐠𝐧 𝐀𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐜𝐬 Yes all are born with sin. Humanity is totally depraved; that is, all of us have a sinful nature that affects every part of us (Isaiah 53:6; Romans 7:14)
Beautiful!!!!!
Well Done 👍 My Brother!
Shabbat shalom. Good word
"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they reveal knowledge. They have no speech, they use no words; no sound is heard from them. Yet their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world. In the heavens God has pitched a tent for the sun.
Psalms 19:1-4 NIV"
The Bible describes many things this way. Is creation a person too?
The heavens aren't a person because it's metaphorical when it says they speak, see Psalm 19:3, it says they have no speech they don't use words. It's obvious what they mean is they are saying that the heavens reveal knowledge about God, not that it's a person.
Where as, when describing the Holy Spirit speaking it doesn't say in the next line "it has no speech" or "it made no sound".
@@DarthMakroth "For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.
Romans 8:19-20, 22 NIV"
Anything personified can speak. A person has his own will. A person has a name.
sir, do u have any greek/original translation of the bible verse? God bless you sir
Amen!! Thank you!!
Well, is "the holy spirit" different from "the spirit of grace," or "spirit of fear, power, love, and self-control." all individual personal spirits? Do they have names?
I still say God's holy spirit can indeed guide us and speak through us... But that's not a distinct person from God, but "his spirit." Because God is personal and speaks to us through his spirit.
These are phrases, but the Holy Spirit is described in the Bible as a person. NOT the same as those. If the Bible describes the Holy Spirit as a person that's what I believe, because the Scriptures are my biggest authority.
Have you seen the video. The spirit of grace ect.are inpersonal forces from God. The Holy Spirit has a personality
@@kurtnotafed4645 correct. The other "spirits of God" do not have much else written about them. Whereas The Holy Spirit has all of these referring specifically to Him.
@@sean_fisher Exactly, and besides, it wouldn't make sense to list "the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit" if the Holy Spirit was nothing more that "his spirit". Why would Jesus be standing between God and his spirit? It just doesn't make sense does it? No, the Watchtower's "active force" teaching is just one of many others that fall apart under scrutiny.
@@paulbrennan4163 excellent point sir.
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FOR THIS VIDEO
God the Spirit?
Loving the beard bro
Right, but the Hebrew and Greek word literally means power, force, or energy. So when you bring up verses that the holy Spirit spoke, literally that's God speaking through his Force power or energy. Also the word person has defined in the English dictionary is a man which we know the holy spirit is not a man.
Absolutely, well said.
But, that's not what those texts say that you're referring to. You're inserting something there that's simply not there.
@@gregc5671 2 Samuel 23:2, Matt 10:20, neh. 9:30, acts 5:32, 1 cor 12:3. There's some verses for ya. Literally the father speaks through us through his power force or energy AKA the spirit. Literally that's what it means
@@gregc5671
Can a person be poured out?
(Acts 2:18)
The Holy Spirit is the “Power” of the Father (Luke 1:35), that is why we worship Him in Spirit and Truth, because the Father is Spirit (John 4:24), the Father is not 3 persons but he is omnipresent all powerful (Psalm 139:8). Yeshua could do nothing of Himself without His Father’s “Power / Spirit ” (John 5:30) (Matthew 10:20).
In (John 1:1-3) it says that there were only 2 in the beginning the Father and Word (Son). Also, Yeshua said I and the Father are one (John 10:30), not 3 persons are one.
The Holy Spirit is the holy attributes / power of the Father that are manifested to the world, not a distinct different person. In short the Holy Spirit is the omnipresence of God the Father.
@@SouthernGardensHomestead well said brother
Very good!! I like!
You can't separate YHWH and His Spirit
YHWH and the Holy Spirit are not 2 separate beings....
The Holy Spirit is never a person....
The Holy Spirit YHWH's personal presence, operational power...
Yahushua ascended to heaven He was given the promised Holy Spirit...
Does that mean Yahushua was given a person?
We know it's the Power that was given to Yahushua after He ascended
We read in the Bible where the Holy Spirit is called the intercessor and again we We Yahushua called the intercessor
Do we have 2 intercessors or 2 mediators ?
We know only Yahushua is our intercessor
The Holy Spirit given to Yahushua when He ascended into Heaven is the one that Yahushua uses to reach us...
That's what we call Yahushua in us
And if the Holy Spirit is another Spirit what's His name?
Where is His Throne?
The Holy Spirit is the breathe,presence,power of YHWH
....
You can't separate YHWH and His Spirit...
The Holy Spirit created everything
Does that mean Father YHWH didn't create a thing?
The Holy Spirit is the Father of Yahushua
Does that mean Yahushua has 2 fathers?
You are wrong on this one brother
There's only one God...YHWH is the Almighty God alone
I’m sorry everyone lied to you. God bless you.
This is the best video on the holy spirit I have seen.
Thank you so much
I used to think I just feared Abba.
I have lived in this because I confess that I vocalized thoughts questioning that the prayer and delivery session believers prayed over me and casted out demons could have been a fleshly response in reference to 2 Thessalonians 2 and the great falling away 😢, that deliverance ministry could be a tool of satan to use. To me those were "words against" I really have believed that because of this I don't think I can even approach Abba. I was not adamant believing they did such casting for satan, I was not 100% sure that it was by the Holy Spirit. I am afraid that with all the sin I have done has lead me to these doubts and that I could have been serving the other father of wickedness. I had a hollow feeling in my heart. I have not been baptized in water by my own will.
I have not shown works. I admit that this is due to my lack of faith.
No one has said that I have, but I still think I have..
I just feel very hopeless and sorry, realizing I 98% probably did blaspheme and that's it.
I have no desire to be in rebellion, I lack understanding and was scrambling for confirmation that the decision for that deliverance I recieved was right also most likely due to my lack of faith. 😢
Please help. I do not want to ever be determined to rebel against our Redeemer. I believe He has delivered me from all evil in my life no matter what. I live in perpetual worry (which is sin) that Hebrews 10 is me.
Shabbat shalom Lex , May lord our God bless you with happiness and peace. You are doing a great job , keep it up.
❤ thank you
BUT I WOULD HAVE YOU KNOW THAT THE HEAD OF EVERY MAN IS CHRIST AND THE HEAD OF EVERY WOMAN IS THE MAN AND THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD. 1 COR 11V3 so that would tell us clearly that Christ is NOT God but rather Christ is in submission to the Father ie GOD,.You can not be equal with someone as you said lex and be under the authority of the same person and be equal. so what you taught on this is incorrect. The Holy Spirit is power of the Father ,the manifestation of the Father (GOD ) thats why when we blaspheme the Holy Spirit there is no forgiveness. Christ never ever claimed to be God or part of a 3 way split GOD. Lastly GOD does have a name ie YAHWEH , Christ our great high priest and mediator has a name ( YESHUA OR as some say Jesus ) but what name have we for the HOLY SPIRIT ? NONE because it is The power of God yea the opposite to the spirit of darkness .
Jesus is God . Don't use human assumption or interpretations . Too many looking here and there to find out justification that Jesus is God . Matthew 3:17 read as follows : And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.” Would God the Father say that Jesus is His Son if Jesus is not God ? This is the direct declaration from God the Father on the divinity of Jesus but many overlook the verse and even don't believe what it says . It is now up to us to believe what God the Father said or still try to find elsewhere and not believe in His own words . Is there any human father who ever acknowledge a baby monkey as his son ? A baby monkey which is not human being and of the different species from man ? Think about it ... God the Father declared Jesus is His Son because Jesus is God even though at time He was in the form of a human being .
@@Samuelson8169 You didn’t address the scripture that I quoted . I am always up for graceful debate but debate that ignores the scripture is not debate at all. Yes scripture in many places refers to Yeshua as the son He is the anointed son The messiah . He is also a mediator but not a fraud. How could Yeshua mediate if he was really part of a godhead . John 1v 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Do we all become gods ? I think not . Yeshua is the Fathers first born son and all believers also become sons as a matter of fact scripture says we become joint heirs with Yeshua but NOT with the Father .
@@victorfoster7427 1 Cor 11:3 . The head of Christ is God . This is true as God the Father is the Father of Christ . And please note the that Jesus said He and the Father are one. Both are God . John 10:30 . This even clarify the God the Father's declaration that Jesus is His Son and Jesus is God . All these verse confirmed the divinity of Jesus Christ .
@@Samuelson8169 so using your explanation the husband is the father of his wife . Always compare like with like . ¶ Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me john 17. This means the Yeshua are of 1 mind just like as it says john 17 that those who believe will become one ( of 1 mind ) with Yeshua and The father . The trinity is never mentioned anywhere is scripture . It’s an evil doctrine . Remember God can not die , ever But Yeshua did die and is the first fruits of all resurrection. I also used to believe in the trinity but scripture showed me this to be false but we must open our minds to the truth of His perfect Word .
@@Samuelson8169 John 10v36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
Amen 🙏 I believe!
THE LORD GOD IS ONE HE HAS NO EQUAL HE SEND HIS SPIRIT OUT THROUGH OUT THE WORLD THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE FATHER ON HIGH
Righttttttttt
Why would He glorify His Son then?
Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.
Proof that they are equal.
@@jacksonrelaxin3425also means to highly respect, if you don't Respect Jesus you Don't respect the Creator. Dosnt necessarily mean they are equal. If they are equal, why does Jesus pray to God?
It doesn't sound logical to me that a God needs to pray to another God, if God is one (1st commandment).
@@MohamadYoussef-kc5fs I’m not able to genuinely respect or love God because I’m in my cursed flesh and I have mental issues. If you wanna believe that everyone is on board the boat you are, you’re being ignorant and inconsiderate. Everyone has different lives and trials so I don’t expect every Christian I meet to be a fuzzy-wuzzy happy go lucky. You’re focusing on peoples external behaviors and actions to determine what they believe. You’re literally judging them just as were told not to.
Thank you Brother
Question: If Holy Spirit is God why does no one in scripture pray to Him, worship Him and why does the Apostle Paul in His salutation to the churches only make a distinction between God and Jesus Christ His Son(not God the Son)?
Thank you
The Holy Spirit is God, The Almighty. In Acts 5, Peter says “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit“. The scripture later goes on to reveal that “You have not lied to men, but to God”
@@awuraadams8600 no it represents God
Can you explain the idea of the Trinity . Very confusing. Thank you in advance
Respectfully, the doctrine of the trinity is confusing because it's a lie. It's a concept devised by the Roman church.
The “word” trinity is actually a prefix and a suffix joined to convey that The One God is manifested in three personages just as humans are manifested in Spirit (life) the soul (the character that identifies individual persons from one another and then the physical form. A good parabolic is water; H2O has three conjoined elements that can be liquid, solid or gas and yet they are one ; they never cease to be H2O whether in a glass, as ice, or as steam. Same substance, totally different character as to its varied purposes
@@davidmason9925
Roman 8:9
If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ he is not his.
Who is the Spirit of Christ...?
@@dreameruy9510 Good Morning 🌞 first of all you are right by asking, Who? Because The Spirit is personal! Romans 8 teaches us so much about The Holy Spirit as well as John 14 and John 16. As Jesus explained that He was going away, Another Comforter would come Who would live in them just as as He lived with them. Then He said, “I will not leave you comfortless; “I” will come to you!” John 14:18. In Romans 8:9-11 He is described as the Spirit, the Spirit of God, the Spirit of Christ, the Spirit that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead, etc. etc. A wonderful explanation of the ONE True God expressed in multiple personages. He is the One Who knows our deepest needs and prays for us according to the Will of God Romans 8:26-28. Read it all He is our personal connection with God until we get “Home” and see Him face to face!!! The Living Glorified Christ, “Jesus our Lord! Blessings on you!
Why is it that there is no explicit verse in de bible that says that the Holy Spirit is a person? I mean, Al of the writers had plenty of chances to do so but yet never did...
1 Cor. 8:6 " But to us there's but one God, the father, of whom are all things, and we in him
, and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him"
Why is the Holy Spirit not mentioned here?
Other examples where the Holy Spirit isn't mentioned:
1:Cor 11:3
Luke 10:22
John 17:3
John 17:11
Another example is this:
In Psalm 51:11, confessing his sin, King David asked God , " Take not your holy Spirit from me"...If the Holy Spirit were a distinct person with a mind of his own, would David not have said, "Holy Spirit, do not leave me"?
Would the Holy Spirit not have the power to come and go as he pleases?
Luke 11:13 makes plain that the Holy Spirit is given by God to those who ask for it.Therefore , the Holy Spirit is not a person that comes of it's own volition, but rather is seen to be something that God gives ...
The Bible even tells us that Abels blood spoke
And wisdom speaks, and referred to as she
@@Renewthoughtlife Jerusalem is also spoken of the mother of believers..you were a jehovah witness?
Thank you for bringing it back!
Outstanding video Lex Myers, thank you so very much
When you speak does wind come out and breath? Is it a part of you? But it's also away from you isn't it.
I currently attend a church that has several Jewish believers. The word and concept of the trinity is not embraced there. I know it's not a bible word, but I see the evidence of it in my daily reading. I also know it's not something humans can fully understand. I think part of the problem in a Jewish church ties back to the shamah. Could you do a teaching on the Trinity? Thanks
"she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit." Define a person here rather than God's force and you have some really perverted theology. Or do you define it one way here and then another way somewhere else? Even young children could figure this one out. The spirit is one of the many manifestations of his power. The Holy Spirit is the power he uses, sends, distributes, or gives, to fulfill his promises. Thus these spirits are made 'Holy" as being set apart from his other manifestations of power and used specifically for God's purposes of fulfilling his promises to those who he will adopt as his own children. But as regards my love the Christ the scripture tells us, "‘The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is the one who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’"
Is there a difference between the spirit of God and the Holy Spirit?
I am surprised by this Trinitarian view of the spirit of God, especially when you understand the state of the dead.
he is well indoctrinated. I dropped out of bible college as I refused to embrace trinity. in almost all of them, you don't get to finish first year of school without affirming that blasphemy.
@@JN-or1zr
May God bless you beyond measure for rejecting the idolatrous false Trinity sun god!🙏
Seminary schools seems like very very dangerous ecumenical indoctrination camps to me. So does the WCC, which also requires an oath to the Trinity to join.
My family and I categorically reject the catholic Trinity co-equal, co-eternal god! We worship Father Yahuah and His literal Son Yahushuah Messiah and are eternally grateful for Their spirit and the ministering angelic host.
Oh I hear you and now i speak. Thankyou. Bother! Youve taught me much. I will wear your righteous faith that you have given me in my walk with Father and persuit of Him. I can hardly wait to meet you brother. Here or There i don't care. You pick. But soon. I must tary but you do not! Keep going i need to be more than 66 and so do you, before maturity hits us all. Shabbat Shalom. Shalom Shalom. And ruach salem even when salem is nowhere to be found. Ruach salem brother and i will salem ruach.
Thanks for this video. I've been dwelling on just who or what the Holy Spirit is recently. I believe it was the Holy Spirit that led me to fully accepting Yeshua.
AMEN!
So if HS is a person, distinct person, not the person of the Father, WHICH person is Jesus' father according to Luke 1:35? Father or Holy Spirit?
Just finished a JW study and the study said a force not a person.
Forgive me folks, but just one confusing issue for me with this explanation. So, can we then see the holy spirit physically considering the attributes?
The Ruach HaKodesh (Holy Spirit) is an attribute of Yahweh. The Ruach HaKodesh doesn't have attributes of its own. Saying it is an individual person _is_ confusing.
How can you blasphemy the force?? Holy Spirt is person!!
Amen 🙏🏻
Yes
One thing is for certain... Heb. Ruach is feminine. In the beginning was El Elyon (masculine) and the Ruach HaKodesh (feminine), and the firstborn of Creation (i.e., the preincarnate Yahoah [Tetragrammaton] or Son) became incarnate as Yehoshu'a when He was conceived on Chag Yitzhar in 5 CE and was born full-term EXACTLY 38 weeks later on Chag Shavu'ot in 6 CE during the census of Quirinius when Herod Archelaus served as ethnarch with the title "king of the Jews." Herod the Great was long dead.
What’s his name?
It seems that the Bible never says that the Holy Spirit forgives sins. Maybe is it why sinning against Him is never forgiven...
I really missed these teachings. Shabbat shalom!
Isn’t the Holy Spirit simply put God’s presence. Since there is only 1 God. Holy Spirit is a part of God himself. Also I don’t see any scriptures where any one prays to the Holy Spirit. I believe because He is the presence of God.
@@mayavox Amen!
2Cor 3:17-18
If you pray to God you pray to the trinity.
Spirit of man is a part of a man not another man living in a man ...
The Bible says that the Holy Spirit can pray for us when we lack the words. There is plenty to show the Spirit as apart and individual.
@@reflectionsinthebible3579 Holy spirit from God is imparted into true Christians that's why it can pray along our spirit . it is like a seed put in our life through which we obtain eternal life through the holy spirit .It is the spirit of Christ and God the Father
This is a vital topic. Thank you
Cults is in Star Wars!! Let the force be with you
"And the Lord came down in a cloud, and spoke to him, and took of the spirit that was upon him, and put it upon the seventy men that were elders; and when the spirit rested upon them, they prophesied and ceased." (Numbers 11:25). If the Holy Spirit was a separate person why would the Father be the one to put it on the 70 elders. Wouldn't a separate entity do this of its own accord?
Jesus and the holy spirit both take orders from the almighty. Edit: Almighty. I disrespectfully didint capitalize.
The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son so it would make sense for Him to do that. Also
Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;
1 Corinthians 6:19
What you said is believing In the Holy Trinity. GOD IS ONE. Jesus said it himself.
Does anyone know why Peter referred to animals as "common" in Acts 10? I know Unclean referred to critters deemed inappropriate for human consumption by the Creator of the universe (see Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14).
What criteria makes an animal "common"?
I've heard he was referring to a man made law that said you could not eat clean animals that have touched unclean animals. So there was nothing in that sheet that he would eat. If you notice, God only rebukes him for calling something common. I'm not sure if this is a correct interpretation, but it makes sense to me.
God was tying it to the man made law about people being called common for interacting with "unclean" people.
I’ve heard that common animals are clean animals that have become unclean by touching unclean animals. Kind of like when different foods are processed in the same room….if one type of food touches another type, it can become contaminated. But Acts 10 in context isn’t really talking about food. It’s talking about Jews and Gentiles
@@kellyorwig6653 Correct. The Jews also considered the Gentiles---even converted Gentiles---"common" and avoided contact with them. There was even a dividing wall in the Temple that separated Jews and Gentiles. Paul said Messiah Yahshua "has broken down the wall of separation between them" (Ephesians 2:14).
But those who are misleading deceiving many
You say individually
I think the 3 were altogether as one God
as one God
Not separated
But still separated
As One God
Two Gods work together as one
👍🇺🇲❤GOD BLESS ALL XO
GOD,JESUS ,HOLYSPIRIT/GHOST ARE ONE,SPIRIT/JESUS SAID IF YOU'VE SEEN ME, YOU'VE SEEN THE FATHER FOR ME AN THE FATHER ARE ONE,MEANING ONE SPIRIT, YOU CAN'T SEPARATE GODS DEITY, AN THEIR IS NO TRINITY, THAT WORD IS NOT IN THE BIBLE, BE BLESSED PEOPLE
Seen the Father not God the Son John 14:9
Some times being over tired does not help, be sure to have good meals don't missed meals we are still humans and you need enough rest and we must repent always as long as we are In this flesh. And our thoughts is the worst place Satan will attack us with, he might not be able to read our minds but he surely sends us many many stupidity to think about In one day let me tell you, so we must pray constantly, give praise, sing praises, recite verses as soon as we notice something not godly has entered our hearts all in the spirit and in the spirit means in silence in our mind which is related to our hearts. Let's pray for our brother Lex. Father we pray you to help our brother Lex deliver him from the grip of Satan Lord, his honesty stinks to Satan the devil and he wants him off UA-cam because he is doing a very good job. Please Lord in Jesus name Amen. Everyone say Amen. We love you Lex.
The topic written by lex meyer regarding the personality of Holy Spirit is 100% truth according to the scriptures and its lmportant to the present church. I would like to request Mr to improve the point size of the typeface used in video such as point 12 so that it can easily be read. The present point size is too small to read. The truth contained in this topic is a must read and hear for all true christians. Praise God.
Mr Meyer
So are you saying that the Holy Spirit can be everywhere at the same time like Yahweh or Yahshua if it is Yahweh’s Spirit that goes forth.
When possible, can you please do a presentation of the Godhead. I’m not a believer of the “trinity”, but I know the concept of the Godhead is biblical but I’m having a hard time understanding and conceiving it. Shabbat Shalom.
Imo God is the almighty BEYOND AND OUTSIDE of creation making Him Alpha and omega. Two things as one superceding beyond what we comprehend. The Word was the perfectly balanced and good understanding God has in all things and Jesus was the manifestation of that as His begotten son. The holy spirit and Jesus are direct offshoots of all that IS THE ALMIGHTY. God has the last say but they all work in perfect unison. We pray in the Holy Spirit through Jesus, TO God. They are the HIGHEST of all living, But Yahwah Had the last say since ever. IMO of course. This topic is above everyones paygrade but this is my best understanding. Jesus admitted to have been given many things due to his Work on earth. Who gave those things to Him? The Almighty. The holy spirit does all the almighty commands as If he were his very essence. Its like God made Jesus and the holy spirit as parts of Him, but in the end, God ALMIGHTY is the top Dog so to speak, they do as He commanded and created. We just have a hard time differentiating between them because they are pretty much identical in love spirit and mission.
You could come listen to some of my videos where I wear a hijab so I can also be heard by Muslims. I talk about the three best as I can explain them.
godhead. go to Wikipedia and it has a oneliner perfect answer under "godhead in Judaism"
Read John 3:16 and actually believe it and you’re set for life. Stop wasting time with theological debates and overthinking. That’s how you lead yourself astray.
Hello Lex. First let me say that I enjoy your channel and teaching. For the most part you have been a great teacher and I have learned a lot of truth from you. Thank you for all your hard work.
But I have to respectfully say that I don't agree with you on this topic. I have been searching for answers on this issue for a long time because there are many things that do not make sense about the trinity doctrine. The best teaching I have found is by a man named Tim Warner. It is seven modules long, an hour each but worth the time. Tim Warner, breath of God on UA-cam. I challenge you to do what you challenge all of us to do. Unlearn. I would be very interested in hearing what you have to say about this study. Maybe I am wrong but so far his study has been very compelling and removes any apparent biblical conflicts created by the trinity doctrine.
Blessings to you and your family.
Scripture is clear the Spirit, the father, and the son are God, scripture also says there is one God. Someone who reads the Bible for the first time would learn this without knowing the Bible or trinity
Thanks.. I'm going to check out the Tim Warner. The trinity is one doctrine i have never been able to accept.
Thanks for the info to the other channel. I also don't believe the trinity theory. My research reveals that the concept of the trinity became Roman Catholic doctrine at the Council of Nicea.
Without the trinity one sees the hierarchy in heaven: God, then His Son. God's Holy Spirit is God's Holy Spirit, not a separate personality, but part of His ever present, blessed presence.
@@bryanlovesjesus2204, John 17:3. Jesus' words are clear, there is only one God.
@@bryanlovesjesus2204
I can not agree with you. I have two friends, each of whom had next to nil religious training/indoctrination. They each studied the Bible deeply with prayer and fasting. Neither one of them came away from that exogetic study believing in a Trinity. And, I did not share my beliefs on this topic with them.
As for myself and my spouse, we studied our way out of the Trinity belief. We are Protestants that continue to actually protest the Catholic church and all its false pagan counterfeit doctrines. The Catholic church boasts of herself that she changed the 7th day Sabbath to the day of the Sun (Sunday) and they boast the Trinity as their central doctrine upon which ALL their other doctrine's are based.
No way do we accept either of these unbiblical teachings. We do not accept a metaphorical Father and Son who are said to be co-equal and co-eternal with a 3rd God the Holy Spirit. This does not mean we don't believe there is a spirit. We do! But no where in Scripture is there a single verse that states God is 3 or that the Holy spirit is a separate entity. It is the actual spirit of the Father and Son.
God bless. Hope you will study this deeper.
"The New Testament contains no explicit trinitarian doctrine. However, many Christian theologians, apologists, and philosophers hold that the doctrine can be INFERRED from what the New Testament does teach about God." Modern Christianity seems to enjoy inferred doctrine as it's orthodoxy.
which is why inferrence is eisegesis
False. This is how the trinity doctrine came about: a bunch of top theologians got together and debated the nature of God using all the scriptures they could find, to defend their perspectives, they all agreed that, from what they found in the Bible: Jesus is God, The Holy Spirit is God and the Father is God. They THEN called this idea, "The Trinity" to separate those who believe in it, from those who do not. Nobody inferred the idea from an external ideology.
@@sean_fisher Have you read the Book of John in the New Testament???
@@julesfowler6109 have you read the WHOLE Bible?
@ Sean Fisher regardless to whether the three are one or they are all individual is not what matters. The mysterious things belong to the Lord. The fact that someone is on this site means they’re searching for truth. Let’s lift them up opinions are fine but that’s what they are. Remember the second greatest commandment and not sweat the small stuff. We can agree to disagree but less than that. As reading the comments I saw the debate and I got to give you a come on man! The Devil’s all in that. ✌️ it’s all good brother keep searching and if someone disagrees pray for understanding to come their way.
Actually a much needed video, YAH bless you and your family brother lex
This channel is amazing, in my walk with God, i have heard so much bad teaching. Time to unlearn. Thank you, brother.
The phrase "the Spirit of God" opened my eyes. The Holy Spirit is "God's" Spirit. How can the Holy Spirit be God then?
Because as God’s breath, the Holy Spirit is the source of Life from God Who is Life, even as Jesus (John14:6) when God breathed (inspired) into clay man became a living soul; when the Holy Spirit by new birth comes into our spirit, dead in sin, we are quickened and become spiritually alive in Christ. John 4:24 that we may worship Him in Spirit and in truth! Praise our Life Giving God; Who is spirit. (Same verse)
@@davidmason9925 God's breathe is God then? His breathe is not God. God is the One that breathe
@@KennethGangte Good Morning! Pneumos (the Greek word) is translated as breath, wind and spirit; so you can only imagine its usage both actual and figuratively; one Scriptural example is “His Breath in us” Job27:3&4, 32:8, 33:4, 34:14&15, Psalm 104:29&30, Isaiah 42:5, Ezekiel 37:5&6, Acts17::24&25 and an interesting occasion before the day of Pentecost having to do with the Holy Spirit and the disciples in John20:21&22. So as in English, other languages metaphorically use such terms. I hope this is helpful to you! Blessings!
I think you should remove the flashes from the screen. Distracting.
But what about
Acts 9:5?
2Cor 3:17?
What about those verses ?
@@chrisashford1571 What do the verses say?
Salom Sabat everyone
So, do I tell others I worship 3 Gods?
Imo God is the almighty BEYOND AND OUTSIDE of creation making Him Alpha and omega. Two things as one superceding beyond what we comprehend. The Word was the perfectly balanced and good understanding God has in all things and Jesus was the manifestation of that as His begotten son. The holy spirit and Jesus are direct offshoots of all that IS THE ALMIGHTY. God has the last say but they all work in perfect unison. We pray in the Holy Spirit through Jesus, TO God. They are the HIGHEST of all living, But Yahwah Had the last say since ever. IMO of course. This topic is above everyones paygrade but this is my best understanding. Jesus admitted to have been given many things due to his Work on earth. Who gave those things to Him? The Almighty. The holy spirit does all the almighty commands as If he were his very essence. Its like God made Jesus and the holy spirit as parts of Him, but in the end, God ALMIGHTY is the top Dog so to speak, they do as He commanded and created. We just have a hard time differentiating between them because they are pretty much identical in love spirit and mission.
God is not three seperate persons. It's severely upsetting that Lex is a trinitarian and has even admitted he doesnt understand it himself
@@johnnysantos3997 Read what i said
The trinity is not a worship of 3 Gods friend I suggest you read into more scripture.
TriNITY is different from TriTHEISM. Trinity is one God in 3 persons, tritheism which is 3 gods.
Love this thanks Lex!!
Deuteronomy 12:27
And thou shalt offer thy burnt offerings, the flesh and the blood, upon the altar of the LORD thy God: and the blood of thy sacrifices shall be poured out upon the altar of the LORD thy God, and thou shalt eat the flesh.
Jeremiah 31...
And I will pour out My spirit upon all...
@Nothing... That hardly justies it. Cannibalism is a problem that cannot be ignored, look for yourself, it's littered in that bible.
The Trinity is none biblical God is all Spirit, God says He is not a man nor the son of man.
“God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: has he said, and shall he not do it? or has he spoken, and shall he not make it good?”
- Num 23:19 (AKJV)
“I will not execute the fierceness of my anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the middle of you: and I will not enter into the city.”
- Hos 11:9 (AKJV)
We are sons of God, not sons of Christ.
“Behold, what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knows us not, because it knew him not.”
- 1Jn 3:1 (AKJV)
Jesus is the Som of God not God the Son!
“He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.”
- 1Jn 3:8 (AKJV)
John 3 (AKJV)
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¹⁷ For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
¹⁸ He that believes on him is not condemned: but he that believes not is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
¹⁹ And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Jesus Is NOT GOD but the SON
OF GOD!
1Jn 4 (AKJV)
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² Hereby know you the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
³ And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof you have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
There is always a separation between the two.
Jesus Has A God:
The setting is the Last Supper, right before he was arrested and crucified. He prayed for his disciples, saying, “Father,… This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent” (John 17.3). So, Jesus says of the Father that he is “the only true God” and then distinguishes himself from that one God. Both of these points clearly indicate that Jesus himself cannot also be God.
Jesus identified the Father as the only God. Earlier, he told his Jewish opponents that the Father is “the one and only God” (John 5.44). And again, at the Last Supper, Jesus distinguished himself from this one and only God by commanding his disciples, “believe in God, believe also in Me” (14.1).
The other two NT passages which irrefutably establish that only the Father is God and distinguish Jesus from God are in Paul’s letters. He writes to the church at Corinth, “There is no God but one…. yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him” (1 Corinthians 8.4, 6). Here, Paul clearly declares that for Christians there is one God, who is the Father, and there is no other God, so that Jesus is not God.
irrefutable NT text which establishes that there is God, who is the Father, and distinguishes Jesus from God is in Paul’s letter to the Ephesians. He writes, “There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all” (Eph 4.4-6). Here, Paul implicitly identifies Jesus Christ as “one Lord” and distinguishes him from the “one God,” whom he unequivocally identifies as “the Father.” Paul is a unique author of NT literature in that he exclusively and consistently calls Jesus “Lord” and the Father “God.” Therefore, he never calls Jesus “God.”
other NT passages which confirm that Jesus is not God is his encounter with the rich young ruler. This man sincerely asked Jesus, “‘Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?’ And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone’” (Mark 10.17-18/Luke 18.18-19; cf. Matthew 19.16-17).
Many Christians have been confused by this saying, thinking that Jesus implies that he himself is not good. Yet the NT often declares that Jesus was such a righteous man that he never sinned (Acts 3.14; 2 Corinthians 5.21; Hebrews 4.15; 7.26; 2 Peter 2.22).
NT passages show that Jesus was not God. For instance, the NT often declares that God sent Jesus, God was with Jesus in his mission, and God raised him from the dead. Peter preached about “Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst” (Acts 2.22). Peter later proclaimed about “Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good, and healing all who were oppressed by the devil; for God was with Him” (10.38)
Glory be to the Most High and our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ
Jesus christ gives the believers the gift of the holy spirit, to help the believers to glorify and witness to the gospel of Jesus christ, Jesus Christ knows the heart of the believers, because your flesh is still fighting your soul/spirit,and living in the world of sin.
You are correct I just have not figered out Why you call him THE Holy Spirit and not just Holy Spirit
Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that 👉🏼He👈🏼 may abide with you forever-
Joh 14:17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for 👉🏼He👈🏼
dwells with you and will be in you.
Joh 16:13 However, when 👉🏼He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.👈🏼
@@imphilinblank7254 the active force proceeds from a person the father
@@imphilinblank7254 if we read on down to (John 14:18), we see that no other than Yeshua is the one coming in the power (Luke 24:49) of the Father.
Yeshua is that comforter.
@@imphilinblank7254 yes He will not leave his disciples as orphans, “I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.“
John 14:17-18 ESV
Jesus is the helper, he will be in the believers just as He is in the father and the father in him, yet what about the spirit? ”In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you.“
John 14:20 ESV
Thank you Lex.
The Holy Spirit is Female.
In Hebrew the Holy Spirit is a feminine noun. In the New Testament the Holy Spirit is neuter (it)
When the bible addresses God's spirit, then refers to a "him." I believe it's just referring back to God. Because God works through his spirit. Just like God works through his word/yeshua. I believe God, his word, and his spirit have always co-existed and have always been one. I think this matter tends to be made overly complicated. As long as you acknowledge the father and the son as God in different manifestations and their spirit protrudes from both manifestations for specific purposes. I believe the Father and his Word/Yeshua are both equally God and the same being. If God can answer prayers and be everywhere at once, I see no problem with God dividing himself or manifesting himself anytime or place he wants at the simultaneously.
God bless.
Well done...Jesus the Holy Spirit
I noticed that only the new testament refers to him as both the Holy Ghost and Holy Spirit. And the old testament refers to him as the Holy Spirit.
Look at who wrote it. Does Jesus say Holly Ghost?
@@MohamadYoussef-kc5fs what is your point?
I wish you were a seventh day Adventist
God is all powerful not powerless
The Holy Spirit is indeed a person, but it's a stretch to say that non-persons cannot speak. The Bible says lightning and thunder speaks, and so does animals when God allows. Also mountains and trees will sing:
Numbers 22:28 ESV
[28] Then the LORD opened the mouth of the donkey, and she said to Balaam, "What have I done to you, that you have struck me these three times?"
Job 38:35 ESV
[35] Can you send forth lightnings, that they may go and say to you, 'Here we are'?
Revelation 10:4 ESV
[4] And when the seven thunders had sounded, I was about to write, but I heard a voice from heaven saying, "Seal up what the seven thunders have said, and do not write it down."
Isaiah 44:23 ESV
[23] Sing, O heavens, for the LORD has done it; shout, O depths of the earth; break forth into singing, O mountains, O forest, and every tree in it! For the LORD has redeemed Jacob, and will be glorified in Israel.
Isaiah 49:13 ESV
[13] Sing for joy, O heavens, and exult, O earth; break forth, O mountains, into singing! For the LORD has comforted his people and will have compassion on his afflicted.
Isaiah 55:12 ESV
[12] "For you shall go out in joy and be led forth in peace; the mountains and the hills before you shall break forth into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.
Jehovah's witness
Teach the holy
spirit is God's active force.
Excellent! Thank you! Exactly the question i was wondering about!
Throughout the epistle letters , Paul always saluted the churches by mentioning God the Father and Lord Jesus Christ . If I am not mistaken he never mentioned the Holy Spirit . If Holy Spirit is a person of the Trinity why He was not mentioned ? What is the meaning Spirit of Christ mentioned in Roman 8:9 , 1 Peter 1:11 ,Galatian 4:6 and Roman 8:2 . Is the spirit of Christ here is another spirit , not the Holy Spirit as mentioned in the Trinity doctrine ?
Jesus said He would leave behind a helper - the Holy Spirit. Not to mention in Genesis it mentions the Holy Spirit over the face of the deep.
I upold what the biible itself says about the Holy Spirit, NOT the conclusions of the 'council of Constantinople 381AD!. It was not till then that the HS was accepted as a 'person' and thus '3rd person of the trinity'. True, my bible speaks of the 'The Father, the Son & The Holy Spirit' ( Matt 28:19) But I still cant find after 60 years of bible reading , ONE verse, in ANY translation that says 'There are three persons in one God' Please! someone show me? Bye the way I dont want 'inferences' or 'suggestions'
@@Isaiahrey698 My friend, there is NO 'trinity'!The first vital step was introduced by pagan emporer Constantine at the council of Nicea 325AD where he insisted that the bishops who attended ( only 25% of all bishops in the church!) accept that 'Jesus was God'. There was much disagreement for centuries about this!The inclusion of the holy spirit came a bit later. The whole thing was controlled by the STATE of Rome. Could anyone in thier right mind accept that this was 'Christian'? Can you imagine Pilate and Herod telling Jesus what to believe?. This was Satans way of corrupting truth and was fortold in the NT. read Acts 20:28-30. Therer is only ONE Almighty God & creator, and that is the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ who is God's son. ( 1 Cor 8:6). may God bless you as you uphold bible truth!
Force or power.
The Word Almighty God
I had been debating this very topic.
You've given me much to think about and to test.
Thank you Mr. Meyer,
Shalom achi
(Mat 10:19) But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.
(Mat 10:20) For it is not ye that speak, but the (SPIRIT OF YOUR FATHER) which speaketh in you.
Same statement as:
(Mar 13:11) But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but (THE HOLY GHOST).