Staccato XC versus Atlas Athena V2

[@evanberryhill7375]

With all due respect, why make a comparison if you haven’t shot the gun?

[@enhancedsystems1200]

Live fire experience is important, but this is a features comparison. Not a handling / live fire / recoil impulse comparison. I've since sold both of these. I found both of them to be significantly lacking.

[@evanberryhill7375]

@@enhancedsystems1200 that's fair. I appreciate you understanding where I'm coming from. Did you buy something new in their place?

[@enhancedsystems1200]

@@evanberryhill7375 At this point I simply prefer hand made, hand-built and hand-tuned things by craftsman versus machined things. To that end, I've ordered a DC9R and a Sandhawk.

[@jonah8133]

literally, this video is useless.

[@Kezpoh]

True…thats stupid

[@mikediesel2991]

Great video showing some differences between the two! Would like to see your thoughts on how they shoot after you’ve shot the Atlas. I will say that I was a little surprised when you were able to have slight play on the XC’s slide. Made me go grab mine and check and mine did not have any play

[@BlackWarriorRhino]

I have both and I agree. I love both but my XC is my guy all DAY. Thanks Keep making your videos and get your sub base up bro!

[@kevinanderson9752]

The XC is just phenomenal, don’t own any Atlas’s but I have a hard time even imagining how something other than another comped 2011 can shoot = or + than this.

[@waltertang9303]

I’m trying to decide which one to get as well, but seems like the XC is the way to go?

[@BullockInvestments]

Good video man. Informative. I just bought a Watchtower Apache (think Stacatto XC) and am probably going to pick up an Athena V2 over the summer. Both guns I'll run the hell out of and put 10,000 rounds through each in next year. I don't shoot competitively, but just damn love to shoot and shoot fast. Thanks for the great content!

[@Duda4711]

Brother, everything on the Atlas is hand fitted. Everything!

[@jntz184]

Awesome video!
My P is so tight you’d think it’s one solid piece of metal.
I have noticed the aluminum frames have looser tolerances than steel.
Good shit!

[@iTz_FLAwL3zZ]

My P has a shockingly tight fit as well. It has absolutely no play in the slide to frame whatsoever. I was definitely surprised by how well fit it was as soon as I picked it up from my FFL!

[@brownhome1928]

I'm glad I found this video after I bought my XC. I probably would not have bought it and missed out on how bad ass this pistol is. It is by far the best looking and best shooting pistol I have ever owned. I love it and have won competitions with it. You have a good review but it is very subjective. I haven't experienced any of the things you have mentioned. Your plusses are plusses for me and your negatives are not negatives for me. I will shoot an Artemis soon to see what the hype is about, but it will have to absolutely blow me away to get me to even consider selling the XC.

[@BigJeezie]

Just received my CS and it’s nothing like the Staccato presented here. At least for how tight it is in regards to slide fitment. You can not rock the slide at all. Tbh it’s a bit impressive for $3k when the comparison gun is $6k.

[@Scooby131]

Enjoyed the video. Regarding Atlas, they are considered a production shop rather than a custom shop because they offer a fixed set of models with a fixed set of options and don't fully customize to the buyer's desires; however, they do spend about 20 hours per pistol hand-fitting. This video (ua-cam.com/video/QXkeJI12I7k/v-deo.html) is worth watching in its entirety, but at about 5:13 they mention the amount of hand-fitting they do. When you take it apart, you'll also see that the frame, slide, barrel, guide rod, guide rod plug, and slide stop, at a minimum, all have the gun's serial number - I presume this is to keep the fitted parts together as they move from station to station (since they aren't a one gun, one gunsmith shop like Nighthawk). Keep up the good content!

[@strtwyz95]

Nice preliminary video prior to range time and looking forward to see how they compare shooting wise. Comp'd vs non-comped. And is the price point or variance between the two - justifiable?

[@joshsupnick9835]

Subjective question for sure. For the refinement and prior to accessories I would say yes. At least for me. Then again if it’s a tool you won’t use because it’s “too nice” is it worth it?

[@strtwyz95]

@@joshsupnick9835 Good point and I guess the old adage comes to play: To each his own. Looking forward to your follow up video after the range session.

[@CoolGunz]

Do you think that flashlight on the Athena helps reduce muzzle flip at all ?

[@UltimateEnd0]

Really it boils down to do you want an aluminum grip module or plastic?

[@bradpowell843]

I liked my XC but sold it after getting an Erebus and Artemis. Really no comparison between them. I even did a Cheely grip and trigger on my XC.

[@southeast78]

Is the Nemesis on the same level as the Erebus and Artemis?

[@JustDataReviews]

@@southeast78 Never fired a nemesis but all 3 guns you mention are built for their own specific purposes. The nemesis is designed specifically for .40 SW where as the other two are designed for the 9MM cartridge.

[@jvz1448]

I have a steel grip and infinity trigger on my XC. I highly prefer it over my Athena but never shot an Erebus. The Artemis I shot was great though. Pretty comparable to my xc with the mods

[@blaiseeltine9516]

bro, you put all this time into a video and haven't shot it yet? i subd but comeon.

[@Michiganbreadboyz_bt8919]

My staccato p has the same movement u just showed

[@mackharding251]

I've seen way less malfunctions from the XC and I've seen it consistently outshoot the atlas and sandviper.... just saying

[@roguemodel]

Stacatto is designed for duty. The P and XC, the C, while Atlas is set up to be a race gun. I have a P and use it for EDC. I have an Atlas Titan, an excellent sleeper gun seeing how it is the Atlas bargain offering. The Efebus, which is wormhole fast. And finally, a Hayes Cobra and Nighthawk TRS Comp. Those are my babies. As good as Atlas is, the Hayes is faster, better, smoother, flatter, and faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.

[@awokeone7997]

You must of got the new XC with the duty style trigger weight. The older ones had the 2lb trigger pull. You might want to check out the Phoenix Trinity H Tac.

[@joshsupnick9835]

A friends Phoenix Trinity launched its firing pin out of the back of the slide. Repeatedly. I’ll pass.

[@MrCrashCormier]

Thanks Josh, keep cussing… looking forwards to range video.

[@Montblanc1986]

My P has zero play that I can feel.

[@CR12221]

Xc is not a duty gun, but some people use it for that.

[@AngelRivera-wp9bg]

Maybe you want to take a less expensive gun 4,300 dollars and roll in the mud as oppose to a 6000 dollar gun lol

[@a.d.c7941]

So this is a comparison on s gun u haven’t shot. Smdh. Wow. Thanks a lot. D A

[@tobberfutooagain2628]

Alot of talk and excuses….

[@charles17508]

The xc is not a duty gun lol .yes I'd take the xc over the atlas for duty use but that does not make the xc a duty gun let's get that clear .

[@niallmacleod1024]

They literally describe the XC as a duty gun on their website.

[@alexm5656]

There’s depts approving them for use but with the duty pull weight which you can get directly from staccato