Flight attendants are trained for these situations. They can evacuate passengers in under 90 seconds( if passenger cooperate and listen).the passenger throwing the bag out where there is jet fuel and jet fuel vapors was a stupid move and i could have caused a flash over fireball and everyone would have been dead. I’m sure the faa will investigate and find the same. Flight attendant are trained for every senario. If they give instructions it’s for a reason.
@@jenniferbart3060 Such instructions are rarely able to be executed exactly as planned in a timely manner in real situations. And well, history has shown us that there are many incidents where blind obedience to so called 'trained professionals' have caused tragedies, and such incidents are not a problem of the past as they keep on happening. And no, there won't be jet fuel vapor in any flammable concentration outside the plane in open air, that's a farcical point you are making. If there is such a concentration It would mean there is something really wrong going on, maybe a spill incident, which in itself is quite a rare occurrence, which would also ground the plane until the incident can be contained...
Don’t be silly, this is exactly why they don’t let in to your hold luggage. Go and watch a proper lipo battery fire and then tell me you want that in the hold luggage. They won’t stop you carrying these items.
I saw someone's video of this shot by a passenger from the back of the plane. The worst part was the line of people in the aisle wasn't even moving, even as smoke was filling the air; people in the back were shouting "Get off the f***ing plane" but the people in front were so slow, possibly they were busy trying to get their overhead luggage, that the people in the back couldn't even move at all.
It's just lithium batteries, and usually older electronics with lithium batteries. That's why USPS refuses to fly lithium batteries in planes and you have to send these devices with such batteries, ground.
Yes, it has been found that lithium ion battery fires are usually due to the manufacturer cutting some corners. They must be precisely fabricated in extreme clean room facilities. Certain manufacturers in the far East should be identified and shut down.
We want to know the brand of the laptop. It matters. That was my first question was what brand. Of course the mainstream media news NEVER gives a full report.
James Bond must have gotten it from Mr. Phelps (Peter Graves) in the original Mission Impossible TV show. Every show opened with a tape recorder playing its message then going up in smoke. Its been decades but I "think" Leonard Nimoy was in the TV show too.
I've literally never seen them say they can't bring laptops despite them not wanting lithium on the plane. Guess there's going to be changes soon. No phones or laptops on planes? How is that going to work?
Had the passenger obeyed the crew member it would have been placed in the bag. Crew members are trained to fight the fire and have the equipment. We just need the passengers to GET OUT OF THE WAY and leave it alone. A proper evacuation has everyone out in 90 seconds.
@@Vespyr_I doubt it will be prohibited, but if that happens, it would work as it did when smartphones and laptops didn't exist at all I guess. You bring a book and enjoy your flight 😂 and you hope your employers will understand you will be disconnected throughout the journey.
Is there no kind of bag or box that could secure a fire from a laptop or a phone? It seems that if you have smoke coming from your device, you should be able to throw it in some kind of a bag that would contain it and prevent it from continuing to burn. It’s one thing if this is discovered when you’re already on the ground, but if you’re in the sky, where are you going to evacuate to??
Yeah they have them for phones on many airlines but not sure if it’s a requirement or not. They’ll put a smoking phone in there (but maybe not one that is already on fire). Imagine more solid info will come out later.
onboard the aircraft, there is emergency equipment called a PED (personal electronic device) fire kit. Lithium battery fires need to be smothered or contained and cooled as heat is what causes them to continue. Why this piece of equipment wasn’t used could have many reasons but I’ll assume panic as this man rushed for the emergency exit. As a flight attendant, I agree with her telling him not to open the door. If it was armed, he’s not trained to hold on and brace for the hydraulics of it’s “explosive” opening and would’ve most likely fell to directly to the tarmac. We’re trained to protect those doors, and without proper training or safety briefing it can be a death sentence for uninformed passengers. Flight attendants in the aft should’ve directed passengers to the front of the aircraft to evacuate, and fought the fire with emergency equipment. Any flames near an engine is a recipe for disaster, not to mention fuel trucks in the vicinity. Allegedly, panic gets the better of everyone sometimes.
I don't know if there's a concern with jet fuel? But I also understand why someone would disregard that if the FAs weren't able to put out the fire and smoke was filling the cabin
@@bananascoaster1243There is no putting out a laptop fire. Lithium Ion can't be suffocated. It creates its own oxygen. Foam doesn't work, neither does water.
@@officialtoastyy you can turn off the sleep function. many people turn everything up to max and disable the sleep mode because it disrupts their work when they go idle
No that was a horrible idea. There are fuel vapors that could have cause a flash over fireball explosion. Everyone could have been dead in seconds. Flight attendants are trained for this and how to extinguish fires and evacuate everyone before a fire can consume the plane.
@@davidbeknownst5406onboard the aircraft, there is emergency equipment called a PED (personal electronic device) fire kit. Lithium battery fires need to be smothered or contained and cooled as heat is what causes them to continue. Why this piece of equipment wasn’t used could have many reasons but I’ll assume panic as this man rushed for the emergency exit. As a flight attendant, I agree with her telling him not to open the door. If it was armed, he’s not trained to hold on and brace for the hydraulics of it’s “explosive” opening and would’ve most likely fell to directly to the tarmac. We’re trained to protect those doors, and without proper training or safety briefing it can be a death sentence for uninformed passengers. Flight attendants in the aft should’ve directed passengers to the front of the aircraft to evacuate, and fought the fire with emergency equipment. Any flames near an engine is a recipe for disaster, not to mention fuel trucks in the vicinity. Allegedly, panic gets the better of everyone sometimes.
For laptop, make sure you do shutdown and wait until the light go off before close the LCD screen. Sometimes, the system got frozen due to update. Don’t shutdown and applying update. Do not press the power button or close the LCD. You just wait until this happens. Laptop is never safe in luggage with clothes. Make sure the laptop doesn’t have wake-up or trigger by WiFi.
I guess the owner of the laptop didn't bother to come forward to provide details aboout the laptop, for example, if the battery has been replaced, or the battery has been overheating, etc.
My husband has a Dell laptop exactly like mine he bought a few months after me. When I shut my computer, it turns off and the fan stops running. When he shuts his computer, it doesn’t even go to sleep and the fan continues to run. When he first got it, he would shut it and put it in his bag like he’s done all of his others and then realize when he got to work that everything was super hot. The people at Dell tell him it shouldn’t do that, but they have no answer for it.
I had an HP do something similar. When you would shut it down, the CPU took 15w (its full amount of power) but with no fan. On battery it would heat up 2 hours and be empty. On power, it never stoped. I went on a 2 weeks vacation and came back to a toasted keyboard and dead heatplate 😅
That doesn't explain. If the laptop is turned off, it should not generate more heat. There should be a flaw in the laptop and they are trying to hide it.
@@wisico640 It is not normal for a CPU to draw 15W during sleep mode. There is a problem with the power management that is probably not setting the CPU to power save mode so it keeps running as if it was at full speed.
What was the owner of the laptop doing? Did they just ditch it? I feel like I would have thrown my own laptop out myself 🤷🏼♀️ also, was it a Mac or PC 🤔
Why do flight attendants go through 6/8 weeks of training just to have passengers tell them how to do their jobs! FAA regulations require you as a passenger to comply with all crew instructions. So if they tell you not to do something, that means don’t do it!!
The flight attendants knew how to deal with an electronic fire, clearly the passengers didn’t. You don’t use a “fire extinguisher” on a lithium battery fire - it just makes it worse!!! What kind of fire extinguisher were they going to use? There are different types. SMH!!!
This is a risk of all digital devices. My daughter's friend had her cell explode into fire in her pants. Everyone has phones and It could happen to anyone's cell phone or device. Every time you get on a plane these days, you have a better chance of dying by exploding device than the plane crashing.
Ive noticed of i press the power button on my Dell laptop then close the lid ot likes to turn back on in my laptop. If i just close the lid it actually goes to sleep. Its like a heated backpack feature basically.
Leave the burning laptop on the plane . What ? Not too long ago police and the local officials insisted residents stay in an area of Maui that was on fire. Many people died. Nurture common sense. Don’t just follow what you’re told.
The lady says that as the people were evacuating the plane “it was total chaos”… ummm… what’s different from the normal disembarking procedure where people move like mindless sloths that cannot firgure out how to pull a simple bag out of a overhead bin??
When "News" Media said there was Chaos in the Airports due to computer shutdowns, the people are just standing around waiting for information...No Panic.
What do you mean don't throw it out of the plane! I don't fly anymore but for those of you do still fly choose your airline carefully. It just might save your life...
Whoever told them to not throw out the bag should be penalized significantly so that others can learn NOT to make such a decision. OK yes not everyone is smart, but that's not an excuse when people's well being are at stake.
They will never realize how dangerous it was to actually attempt to throw the bag out. If the burning combustible was leaking, moving and throwing the bag could have send that burning combustible over a wider area, spreading fire more and/or even blocking an exit.
Yes absolutely! or someone could have been standing on the ground where they threw it. That guy had a smirky grin. He was proud of himself for disobeying the FA.
Lithium battery fires can’t be extinguished with fire extinguishers. They must be contained and doused with water. The fire extinguisher is only used if the fire spread to other combustible materials. Fires onboard are primarily why flight attendants are trained to evacuate a full plane in under 90 seconds.
@@KimGeorge-z3uthere is a specific procedure precisely for laptop and phone batteries. You don’t throw it out because: 1: throwing laptops out presents a danger to refuelling aircraft. 2: the door may already be primed - so opening it may deploy the slide and a burning laptop could damage the slide. Damaging the slide would then make potential evacuation more complicated. Flight attendants are trained professionals - it’s not for travellers to take charge in those situations.
@@Rob-lw8to You’re absolutely right, but don’t expect the armchair aviation experts amongst us to agree. They clearly know far better than anyone in the actual industry.
I don't agree with passengers not obeying orders from flight attendants -- but as far as a stampede occurring and passengers taking it upon themselves to open the side doors, it begs the question of why the flight attendants didn't open all doors once the fire emergency was declared
Likely new rule: No more laptops on planes. Interesting that foreigners took action that probably saved lives. Thank you to them! Americans are so used to following “orders” even when it is not in their best interest or necessary for a life saving action. This needs to change! 😢
Seeing as all carry on fits inside a particular size airlines should seriously consider a method of containment that any carry on bag could be dropped into and sealed to at least contain the smoke and, if it doesn’t extinguish the fire, keep it from filling the cabin with toxic smoke and spreading to other baggage. I always keep all lithium batteries in my carryon as this happening in the cargo could be disastrous. Of course I can’t guarantee everyone does that even though I think it’s a requirement.
Do you feel safe charging your phone at home while you sleep? Because I've seen hundreds of pictures and videos and heard stories of people's phone batteries catching fire. Some while sitting on the nightstand right next to them or even on their mattress. A handful of stories of people dying in homes due to phone batteries catching fire during the night, etc. In contrast, this is only the second time I've heard of a phone or laptop battery malfunctioning while on a plane and as most of the people aren't asleep, it's usually handled quickly and with no serious injuries.
@@user-st2zc6pk7t Bahaha.. This is why You are not a fireman. Lithium will burn under water..So..How exactly does putting water on a substance that is "Highly Reactive to Moisture" the smart thing to do? 8/
@@user-st2zc6pk7t Water can be sprayed on small lithium-ion batteries that contain minimal lithium metal. Foam, CO2, ABC dry chemical, graphite powder, copper powder, or sodium carbonate are the most effective means for extinguishing larger battery fires. If the fire cannot be extinguished, the surrounding area must be doused with water to prevent its spread.
@ypcomchic Per annual flight crew training, water or non-flammable liquids should be poured onto devices to slow or stop the thermal runaway. Once fire is out, crew can don ppe and place device in a containment bag or container that will hold device and liquid. Don't move the device until fire is out to reduce the risk of explosion and thermal runaway spreading to adjacent cells. This is the takeaway from the hour long training on lithium battery fires onboard aircraft.
@user-st2zc6pk7t idiots training idiots. "Pour the water around the area." Water and lithium do not mix..much like sodium and water is explosive.. The effects are compounding. Only fools would tell them to put water directly on a lithium fire...Period.
It was a disorderly evacuation Horrible. Passengers did not leave their things. No overhead should even be open. And the flight attendants have a containment bag for the laptop.
This is something that will DEFINITELY 100% happen in the air: all Li-ion batteries will have to be banned from aircraft or carried in an external releasable pod. Just a matter of time
Aircraft should have a fire bag or box that contains the fire from devices like this on board. If a phone, laptop, or other electronic device starts to have a battery for, they can put it in the container and seal it so it minimizes the danger on a flight
They do, it’s called a PED fire kit. These so called “hero’s” could’ve made the entire situation a thousand times more dangerous by throwing it out of the plane where fuel trucks are constantly moving around
Those are exactly that kind of men you’d expect to save everyone!!! Leaders, who lead… and don’t follow orders - especially when they know they’re wrong. They knew what needed to be done and did it in a serious emergency situation. Only now,,, I pray and hope they won’t be penalized for it… knowing our idiots in power. 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
It was under the seat in front of him. And then he is the one who held up the evacuation, casually rummaging through his luggage while people behind him were screaming at him to leave his stuff behind and move forward towards the exit
No, there's more to it. I saw video of this shot by one of the passengers. Flight attendants were yelling at people to leave their bags & overhead luggage behind because people were too busy trying to get their bags that the line of people was at a complete standstill. The people in the back couldn't even move forward,even as smoke was filling the air, because the people in front were selfishly trying to get their stuff. So, really, what should have happened was the passengers should have evacuated quickly & then the plane's crew could have taken care of the burning bag. The father & son who threw the bag out did the right thing by getting rid of the bag, but the only reason they were still stuck back there was because people refused to listen to the flight attendants to begin with. It shouldn't have been their responsibility to get rid of the bag, they did take care of it because they were stuck in the back while the people in front didn't move, but it shouldn't have been them who took care of it.
American Airlines are supposed to have had special bags that are lined with asbestos that the flight attendants are supposed to throw a burning device in. What happened to the yellow bag?
@@62Cristoforohardly true. Onboard the aircraft, there is emergency equipment called a PED (personal electronic device) fire kit. Lithium battery fires need to be smothered or contained and cooled as heat is what causes them to continue. Why this piece of equipment wasn’t used could have many reasons but I’ll assume panic as this man rushed for the emergency exit. As a flight attendant, I agree with her telling him not to open the door. If it was armed, he’s not trained to hold on and brace for the hydraulics of it’s “explosive” opening and would’ve most likely fell to directly to the tarmac. We’re trained to protect those doors, and without proper training or safety briefing it can be a death sentence for uninformed passengers. Flight attendants in the aft should’ve directed passengers to the front of the aircraft to evacuate, and fought the fire with emergency equipment. Any flames near an engine is a recipe for disaster, not to mention fuel trucks in the vicinity. Allegedly, panic gets the better of everyone sometimes.
Uh no! There is fuel & jet fuel fumes on the tarmac! This guy could have caused a major airport disaster by throwing it onto the tarmac! It was a miracle that that didn’t happen.
Jet fuel and jet fuel vapor with lots of oxygen he could have caused a flashover fireball and killed even in seconds. Flight attendant have training for every scenario imaginable. Training that is gained from research. Fires are the main reason flight attendants are taught to evacuate a full plane of passion 90 seconds. Before the fire reaches the fuel and they have a flash explosion.
My biggest fear is growing fast… human behaviour being what it is I think many of us are growing leary of our tech devices.. but we are growing even more fearful of fire in an airplane.. Forget about snakes!!! 😮😢
I bet the foolish person just closed the lid of the laptop but didn't actually power it off from power menu so it was technically on still with no air ventilation; fans kicked on and heat ensued.
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It could have been a catastrophic if the laptop was inside a checked in luggage and caught fire.
That is why it is prohibited to do such things. No batteries should be carried in checked-in luggage.
Most airlines actually have a fire extinguisher on a long pole that FAs can use if the fire is within the checked bag area of the plane.
@@MB-qx9vn None of the FAs I know are aware of such things.
@@MB-qx9vnIsn't it as simple as pressing a button to release halon?
Batteries have everything they need to burn stored inside. Battery aren't easy to put out.
Flight attendants insisting on keeping the flaming backpack on the plane is wild. Glad that man decided to put logic over blind obedience.
Flight attendants are trained for these situations. They can evacuate passengers in under 90 seconds( if passenger cooperate and listen).the passenger throwing the bag out where there is jet fuel and jet fuel vapors was a stupid move and i could have caused a flash over fireball and everyone would have been dead. I’m sure the faa will investigate and find the same. Flight attendant are trained for every senario. If they give instructions it’s for a reason.
@@jenniferbart3060 Where exactly the jet fuel and vapours are supposed to be?
@@jenniferbart3060 Such instructions are rarely able to be executed exactly as planned in a timely manner in real situations. And well, history has shown us that there are many incidents where blind obedience to so called 'trained professionals' have caused tragedies, and such incidents are not a problem of the past as they keep on happening. And no, there won't be jet fuel vapor in any flammable concentration outside the plane in open air, that's a farcical point you are making. If there is such a concentration It would mean there is something really wrong going on, maybe a spill incident, which in itself is quite a rare occurrence, which would also ground the plane until the incident can be contained...
Flight attendants these days seem to be getting hired straight out of Starbucks coffee shops
Where on earth did you get your information? Fireballs? Jet fuel vapours? Nothing you’ve posted makes any sense. Its quite funny, though.
There goes no laptops allowed now
Yep …
phones too heck even your smartwatch going to be included in that category if that's going to be the way to fly
Nahh. Too many business people fly.. This is not one guy with a fake bomb in his shoe. XP
Don’t be silly, this is exactly why they don’t let in to your hold luggage. Go and watch a proper lipo battery fire and then tell me you want that in the hold luggage. They won’t stop you carrying these items.
I saw someone's video of this shot by a passenger from the back of the plane. The worst part was the line of people in the aisle wasn't even moving, even as smoke was filling the air; people in the back were shouting "Get off the f***ing plane" but the people in front were so slow, possibly they were busy trying to get their overhead luggage, that the people in the back couldn't even move at all.
Wow, flight attendants wanted the laptop to remain seated ... with seat belt on ... with no smoking sign on???
People hurt others more than the fire
You need to report what brand of laptop this was. People need to know.
It's just lithium batteries, and usually older electronics with lithium batteries. That's why USPS refuses to fly lithium batteries in planes and you have to send these devices with such batteries, ground.
Yes, it has been found that lithium ion battery fires are usually due to the manufacturer cutting some corners. They must be precisely fabricated in extreme clean room facilities. Certain manufacturers in the far East should be identified and shut down.
We want to know the brand of the laptop. It matters. That was my first question was what brand. Of course the mainstream media news NEVER gives a full report.
Well….i get why they don’t….they could get sued for defamation, until they know for sure it was The Laptop and nothing else.
@@trixie9777
No.
It's the *BATTERY...*
NOT the Laptop
The laptop owner must have been james bond and failed to hear the "this laotop will self destruct " part.
James Bond must have gotten it from Mr. Phelps (Peter Graves) in the original Mission Impossible TV show. Every show opened with a tape recorder playing its message then going up in smoke. Its been decades but I "think" Leonard Nimoy was in the TV show too.
@@my4mainecoons338😂😂😂
*Mission IMPOSSIBLE*
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The terrorist are always Eastern Europeans according to “80’s” movies, just saying. 😂
The crew told him not to do what saved the plane. They say these batteries aren't allowed, but nothings done to stop then from coming aboard.
Right! Fire 🔥 extinguishers don't work on these lithium ion 🔋 batteries.
I've literally never seen them say they can't bring laptops despite them not wanting lithium on the plane. Guess there's going to be changes soon. No phones or laptops on planes? How is that going to work?
They don’t allow them *checked*. They’re allowed as carryon … for now.
Had the passenger obeyed the crew member it would have been placed in the bag. Crew members are trained to fight the fire and have the equipment. We just need the passengers to GET OUT OF THE WAY and leave it alone. A proper evacuation has everyone out in 90 seconds.
@@Vespyr_I doubt it will be prohibited, but if that happens, it would work as it did when smartphones and laptops didn't exist at all I guess. You bring a book and enjoy your flight 😂 and you hope your employers will understand you will be disconnected throughout the journey.
Is there no kind of bag or box that could secure a fire from a laptop or a phone? It seems that if you have smoke coming from your device, you should be able to throw it in some kind of a bag that would contain it and prevent it from continuing to burn. It’s one thing if this is discovered when you’re already on the ground, but if you’re in the sky, where are you going to evacuate to??
Yeah they have them for phones on many airlines but not sure if it’s a requirement or not. They’ll put a smoking phone in there (but maybe not one that is already on fire). Imagine more solid info will come out later.
You clearly have never seen/researched lithium fires.
They create their own Oxygen and feeds it's own fire
They need a “fire bin” designed to choke the fire out of an object. This is a MUST HAVE , imagine this was mid-air?
Well what’s up with the flight attendants? Don’t throw the laptop out? Poor judgement and I’m glad the man didn’t listen to nonsense.
onboard the aircraft, there is emergency equipment called a PED (personal electronic device) fire kit. Lithium battery fires need to be smothered or contained and cooled as heat is what causes them to continue. Why this piece of equipment wasn’t used could have many reasons but I’ll assume panic as this man rushed for the emergency exit. As a flight attendant, I agree with her telling him not to open the door. If it was armed, he’s not trained to hold on and brace for the hydraulics of it’s “explosive” opening and would’ve most likely fell to directly to the tarmac. We’re trained to protect those doors, and without proper training or safety briefing it can be a death sentence for uninformed passengers. Flight attendants in the aft should’ve directed passengers to the front of the aircraft to evacuate, and fought the fire with emergency equipment. Any flames near an engine is a recipe for disaster, not to mention fuel trucks in the vicinity. Allegedly, panic gets the better of everyone sometimes.
i’ve never seen a fuel truck anywhere near my planes when backing away?
was it a boeing laptop?
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TF?
They told him not to throw it out of the plane?!
I don't know if there's a concern with jet fuel?
But I also understand why someone would disregard that if the FAs weren't able to put out the fire and smoke was filling the cabin
@@bananascoaster1243There is no putting out a laptop fire. Lithium Ion can't be suffocated. It creates its own oxygen. Foam doesn't work, neither does water.
@@Vespyr_ water makes it even worse. Goes from fire to explosion.
That’s why flight attendants are trained to evacuate a whole plane in under 90 seconds.
@ Jennifer
Not if it’s still in the air
This is why you don’t put your phone tablet or computer inside a bag or case when it’s on. It needs to be shut off or it will overheat.
That’s not how it works otherwise they wouldn’t have made a “ sleep mode “ function
@@officialtoastyy you can turn off the sleep function. many people turn everything up to max and disable the sleep mode because it disrupts their work when they go idle
Good on that dad and son listening to their instincts and not the flight attendants!
No that was a horrible idea. There are fuel vapors that could have cause a flash over fireball explosion. Everyone could have been dead in seconds. Flight attendants are trained for this and how to extinguish fires and evacuate everyone before a fire can consume the plane.
@@jenniferbart3060 I keep seeing you posting this same comment.. Can you source any of the info you are working with?
@@davidbeknownst5406 No she can’t because it’s a stupid comment. Coming from 30 plus years of working in and around aircraft for one of the majors.
@@davidbeknownst5406onboard the aircraft, there is emergency equipment called a PED (personal electronic device) fire kit. Lithium battery fires need to be smothered or contained and cooled as heat is what causes them to continue. Why this piece of equipment wasn’t used could have many reasons but I’ll assume panic as this man rushed for the emergency exit. As a flight attendant, I agree with her telling him not to open the door. If it was armed, he’s not trained to hold on and brace for the hydraulics of it’s “explosive” opening and would’ve most likely fell to directly to the tarmac. We’re trained to protect those doors, and without proper training or safety briefing it can be a death sentence for uninformed passengers. Flight attendants in the aft should’ve directed passengers to the front of the aircraft to evacuate, and fought the fire with emergency equipment. Any flames near an engine is a recipe for disaster, not to mention fuel trucks in the vicinity. Allegedly, panic gets the better of everyone sometimes.
For laptop, make sure you do shutdown and wait until the light go off before close the LCD screen. Sometimes, the system got frozen due to update. Don’t shutdown and applying update. Do not press the power button or close the LCD. You just wait until this happens. Laptop is never safe in luggage with clothes. Make sure the laptop doesn’t have wake-up or trigger by WiFi.
I guess the owner of the laptop didn't bother to come forward to provide details aboout the laptop, for example, if the battery has been replaced, or the battery has been overheating, etc.
Seems pretty suspect.
We’re a country of George Costanzas.
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My husband has a Dell laptop exactly like mine he bought a few months after me. When I shut my computer, it turns off and the fan stops running. When he shuts his computer, it doesn’t even go to sleep and the fan continues to run. When he first got it, he would shut it and put it in his bag like he’s done all of his others and then realize when he got to work that everything was super hot. The people at Dell tell him it shouldn’t do that, but they have no answer for it.
I had an HP do something similar. When you would shut it down, the CPU took 15w (its full amount of power) but with no fan. On battery it would heat up 2 hours and be empty. On power, it never stoped. I went on a 2 weeks vacation and came back to a toasted keyboard and dead heatplate 😅
That doesn't explain. If the laptop is turned off, it should not generate more heat. There should be a flaw in the laptop and they are trying to hide it.
@@wisico640 It is not normal for a CPU to draw 15W during sleep mode. There is a problem with the power management that is probably not setting the CPU to power save mode so it keeps running as if it was at full speed.
@@gteixeira yup. Now try and get an answer out of HP
That father son team are the smartest on that plane!!
What was the owner of the laptop doing? Did they just ditch it? I feel like I would have thrown my own laptop out myself 🤷🏼♀️ also, was it a Mac or PC 🤔
I bet it was a PC… 🤭
I bet too it was a PC.
Mainstream media never gives full report on pertinent details.
And the first thing people do is press record on their phones....geeze.
Thank you for adding “caught on camera” to a VIDEO title. We’d have never figured it was from a camera otherwise.
We didn't start the fire. The laptop did.
-Billy Joel
Problem with ppl these days is that their first instinct is to panic when there is no call for it.
Why do flight attendants go through 6/8 weeks of training just to have passengers tell them how to do their jobs! FAA regulations require you as a passenger to comply with all crew instructions. So if they tell you not to do something, that means don’t do it!!
And then there's common sense.
As a now former and short lived flight attendant, common sense is sold separately in people
The flight attendants knew how to deal with an electronic fire, clearly the passengers didn’t. You don’t use a “fire extinguisher” on a lithium battery fire - it just makes it worse!!! What kind of fire extinguisher were they going to use? There are different types. SMH!!!
@@JoeyBlogs007 😂😂😂😂 in the US??? Doesnt exist
And you think people are going to pay attention to that? They don't even WATCH the security briefings!!!
I cant believe lithium batteries are allowed on planes.
So no phones? 🤣🤡
@@ohhaiJess96 that's a really good idea. -Or they could be stored in a special fire proof compartment during flight.
Think of how many travelers are flying for work - they'd need their devices.
This is a risk of all digital devices. My daughter's friend had her cell explode into fire in her pants. Everyone has phones and It could happen to anyone's cell phone or device. Every time you get on a plane these days, you have a better chance of dying by exploding device than the plane crashing.
Did her friend have any first or second degree burns?
A friend of mine’s daughter died in a dorm fire, another person’s laptop caught fire, they didn’t make it out.
My son had his cell phone on the seat of his work truck and it caught fire and destroyed the seat
@@theheartoftexas That's horrible and sad.
The owner, who wasn't really thinking, left the laptop on. So, it basically overheated. Laptops will now be banned going forward. Thanks a lot, man!
Laptops shut down when they get hot though..
Doubt it
Very hard to put a fire out with one of these batteries.
Ive noticed of i press the power button on my Dell laptop then close the lid ot likes to turn back on in my laptop. If i just close the lid it actually goes to sleep. Its like a heated backpack feature basically.
They were probably charging it from the plane charger while it was still slid inside of its sleeve in their backpack or something like that.
Leave the burning laptop on the plane . What ? Not too long ago police and the local officials insisted residents stay in an area of Maui that was on fire. Many people died. Nurture common sense. Don’t just follow what you’re told.
The lady says that as the people were evacuating the plane “it was total chaos”… ummm… what’s different from the normal disembarking procedure where people move like mindless sloths that cannot firgure out how to pull a simple bag out of a overhead bin??
When "News" Media said there was Chaos in the Airports due to computer shutdowns, the people are just standing around waiting for information...No Panic.
Of course you throw it out a door. Idiot stewardesses that said not to throw it outside the plane.
No fire extinguisher or fire blanket on the plane?!??? WHAT ?
What do you mean don't throw it out of the plane! I don't fly anymore but for those of you do still fly choose your airline carefully. It just might save your life...
Flight Attendant: “This is an emergency! You need to evacuate now!”
Passenger: “Wait! I need to record this for my Insta and TikTok”
What brand???
Name of laptop please?
Battery manufacturer is important
Whoever told them to not throw out the bag should be penalized significantly so that others can learn NOT to make such a decision. OK yes not everyone is smart, but that's not an excuse when people's well being are at stake.
It could have flew back damaging the stabiliser causing the plane to nosedive into the ground.
@@rosejacobs8529 They were on the ground already, it says so in the video.
They will never realize how dangerous it was to actually attempt to throw the bag out. If the burning combustible was leaking, moving and throwing the bag could have send that burning combustible over a wider area, spreading fire more and/or even blocking an exit.
Yes absolutely! or someone could have been standing on the ground where they threw it. That guy had a smirky grin. He was proud of himself for disobeying the FA.
@@trixie9777 Sometimes, going against tradition is better than dying. Ask me how I know. 8/
Are you trolling us, or are you serious? I can’t believe someone would say something this stupid.
@@62Cristoforo Well then stop trying to "believe" and start formulating ideas based on facts.
We had a gopro battery catch fire from an accident and the fumes and smoke make it unbearable very quickly. Toxic fumes...scary for these people
Is there a flush out for things like that, if it happens in the air?
Someone had common sense
Whaaaat kind of awesome dude is reporting the news in Miami my goodness! Hahahaa young man, your mama adores you…that Voice !
Both Cabin and cockpit have extinguishers so they weren't used?
They said they couldn’t find them in the video. And I think that is very strange that they could not find them.
Lithium battery fires can’t be extinguished with fire extinguishers. They must be contained and doused with water. The fire extinguisher is only used if the fire spread to other combustible materials. Fires onboard are primarily why flight attendants are trained to evacuate a full plane in under 90 seconds.
Why did they tell him not to throw the laptop out?
Lack of common sense. Sure you wouldn’t do that in the air, but you are on the ground…
@@KimGeorge-z3uthere is a specific procedure precisely for laptop and phone batteries. You don’t throw it out because:
1: throwing laptops out presents a danger to refuelling aircraft.
2: the door may already be primed - so opening it may deploy the slide and a burning laptop could damage the slide. Damaging the slide would then make potential evacuation more complicated.
Flight attendants are trained professionals - it’s not for travellers to take charge in those situations.
Because jet fuel vapor and an object on fire don't mix well together
@@Rob-lw8toThey’re also more interested in the airline’s best interests than your safety. The smoke from a Li-Ion battery fire is very toxic…😊
@@Rob-lw8to You’re absolutely right, but don’t expect the armchair aviation experts amongst us to agree. They clearly know far better than anyone in the actual industry.
How does this happen? What brand of laptop?
I don't agree with passengers not obeying orders from flight attendants -- but as far as a stampede occurring and passengers taking it upon themselves to open the side doors, it begs the question of why the flight attendants didn't open all doors once the fire emergency was declared
Wtf!? No fire extinguisher available. That’s ridiculous, they should be ashamed!!!!
Where was the fire extinguisher or fire blanket?!
Likely new rule: No more laptops on planes. Interesting that foreigners took action that probably saved lives. Thank you to them! Americans are so used to following “orders” even when it is not in their best interest or necessary for a life saving action. This needs to change! 😢
Seeing as all carry on fits inside a particular size airlines should seriously consider a method of containment that any carry on bag could be dropped into and sealed to at least contain the smoke and, if it doesn’t extinguish the fire, keep it from filling the cabin with toxic smoke and spreading to other baggage. I always keep all lithium batteries in my carryon as this happening in the cargo could be disastrous. Of course I can’t guarantee everyone does that even though I think it’s a requirement.
This is why I don’t feel safe with laptops on planes, this is not the first time this has happened
What about cameras or cellphone
Do you feel safe charging your phone at home while you sleep? Because I've seen hundreds of pictures and videos and heard stories of people's phone batteries catching fire. Some while sitting on the nightstand right next to them or even on their mattress. A handful of stories of people dying in homes due to phone batteries catching fire during the night, etc. In contrast, this is only the second time I've heard of a phone or laptop battery malfunctioning while on a plane and as most of the people aren't asleep, it's usually handled quickly and with no serious injuries.
Something tells me that laptop was on or being charged with a battery bank.
Leave to (what looks like) visiting foreigners to use common sense and try to toss it out the door. We'r dumbed down as a nation.
Another scary story on a plane.
The seem to be happening more frequently as of late
Trying to put out a lithium fire just makes the fire worse. Can’t use water.
Wrong. Water is ideal to put out a lithium battery fire.
@@user-st2zc6pk7t Bahaha.. This is why You are not a fireman. Lithium will burn under water..So..How exactly does putting water on a substance that is "Highly Reactive to Moisture" the smart thing to do? 8/
@@user-st2zc6pk7t Water can be sprayed on small lithium-ion batteries that contain minimal lithium metal. Foam, CO2, ABC dry chemical, graphite powder, copper powder, or sodium carbonate are the most effective means for extinguishing larger battery fires. If the fire cannot be extinguished, the surrounding area must be doused with water to prevent its spread.
@ypcomchic Per annual flight crew training, water or non-flammable liquids should be poured onto devices to slow or stop the thermal runaway. Once fire is out, crew can don ppe and place device in a containment bag or container that will hold device and liquid.
Don't move the device until fire is out to reduce the risk of explosion and thermal runaway spreading to adjacent cells.
This is the takeaway from the hour long training on lithium battery fires onboard aircraft.
@user-st2zc6pk7t idiots training idiots. "Pour the water around the area." Water and lithium do not mix..much like sodium and water is explosive.. The effects are compounding. Only fools would tell them to put water directly on a lithium fire...Period.
FFS just ban all carry ons
How scary.
It was a disorderly evacuation Horrible. Passengers did not leave their things. No overhead should even be open. And the flight attendants have a containment bag for the laptop.
Lots of these fires right now.
This is something that will DEFINITELY 100% happen in the air: all Li-ion batteries will have to be banned from aircraft or carried in an external releasable pod. Just a matter of time
I'm surprised he wasn't arrested for disobedience to a flight attendant.
Exactly don't follow directions that were wrong and get arrested...seems about right.
Don't they have lithium fire containment bags or cabinets inside the plane nowadays
Aircraft should have a fire bag or box that contains the fire from devices like this on board. If a phone, laptop, or other electronic device starts to have a battery for, they can put it in the container and seal it so it minimizes the danger on a flight
They do, it’s called a PED fire kit. These so called “hero’s” could’ve made the entire situation a thousand times more dangerous by throwing it out of the plane where fuel trucks are constantly moving around
Do they not have fire extinguishers on planes???
Yet there is no smoke in any of the footage.
One question. Was it a Samsung?
Dont buy cheap off brand batteries or chargers this most the time what the problem is .
Those are exactly that kind of men you’d expect to save everyone!!! Leaders, who lead… and don’t follow orders - especially when they know they’re wrong. They knew what needed to be done and did it in a serious emergency situation. Only now,,, I pray and hope they won’t be penalized for it… knowing our idiots in power. 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
It was under the seat in front of him. And then he is the one who held up the evacuation, casually rummaging through his luggage while people behind him were screaming at him to leave his stuff behind and move forward towards the exit
@@yuppers1 it was under his seat, placed by the person behind him.
This has been happening for years. Planes should have a steel firebox installed that a carry on could fit in in case of this happening.
How did passenger open door to throw it out?
with the handle ?
@@justaguy-69 🤦🏽♀️
I see that Jabba the Hutt has found a new career in news broadcasting.
Why on earth would the steward say not to throw it? Really dumb.
They work as a glorified waitress..But, that is coming from someone that rarely relies on others to save them though.
Fuel vapors could cause an explosion one huge fireball and everyone’s dead. Flight attendants have training.
Alrighty then! Thanks for clarifying !
No, there's more to it. I saw video of this shot by one of the passengers. Flight attendants were yelling at people to leave their bags & overhead luggage behind because people were too busy trying to get their bags that the line of people was at a complete standstill. The people in the back couldn't even move forward,even as smoke was filling the air, because the people in front were selfishly trying to get their stuff. So, really, what should have happened was the passengers should have evacuated quickly & then the plane's crew could have taken care of the burning bag. The father & son who threw the bag out did the right thing by getting rid of the bag, but the only reason they were still stuck back there was because people refused to listen to the flight attendants to begin with. It shouldn't have been their responsibility to get rid of the bag, they did take care of it because they were stuck in the back while the people in front didn't move, but it shouldn't have been them who took care of it.
Lithium battery fires are crazy
I missed the smoke filled cabin…
Unruly passengers.
American Airlines are supposed to have had special bags that are lined with asbestos that the flight attendants are supposed to throw a burning device in. What happened to the yellow bag?
It’s not required yet. Not all airlines have them.
@@jenniferbart3060 Hmm…guess I won’t wanna ride in a car with an electric battery any time soon…or park it under my new carport 😨
Chinese batteries from WalMart.....
LOL you think ANYONE is leaving their crap? Not a chance.
I saw that a shaken, carbonated beverage, like Coke, can help put out a battery fire. I wonder if that’s true.
People should really listen to the flight attendants and pilots they have been trained for it they know better
They’d likely all be dead by now if they had listened to the flight attendants terrible advice. She should be fired.
@@62Cristoforohardly true. Onboard the aircraft, there is emergency equipment called a PED (personal electronic device) fire kit. Lithium battery fires need to be smothered or contained and cooled as heat is what causes them to continue. Why this piece of equipment wasn’t used could have many reasons but I’ll assume panic as this man rushed for the emergency exit. As a flight attendant, I agree with her telling him not to open the door. If it was armed, he’s not trained to hold on and brace for the hydraulics of it’s “explosive” opening and would’ve most likely fell to directly to the tarmac. We’re trained to protect those doors, and without proper training or safety briefing it can be a death sentence for uninformed passengers. Flight attendants in the aft should’ve directed passengers to the front of the aircraft to evacuate, and fought the fire with emergency equipment. Any flames near an engine is a recipe for disaster, not to mention fuel trucks in the vicinity. Allegedly, panic gets the better of everyone sometimes.
They didnt want to throw it out ? Wth
Jet fuel and jet fuel vapor highly flammable along with sufficient oxygen could be deadly.
We're not just flying waitresses! We're here to help in emergencies, such as telling you not to throw burning laptops out!
So the flight attendant wanted to leave it on the plane even when there was a place to put it off the plane.
Uh no! There is fuel & jet fuel fumes on the tarmac! This guy could have caused a major airport disaster by throwing it onto the tarmac! It was a miracle that that didn’t happen.
@@trixie9777 maybe, maybe not. One could argue. The fact is they saved an aircraft and a bunch of people. God bless your little heart.
Jet fuel and jet fuel vapor with lots of oxygen he could have caused a flashover fireball and killed even in seconds. Flight attendant have training for every scenario imaginable. Training that is gained from research. Fires are the main reason flight attendants are taught to evacuate a full plane of passion 90 seconds. Before the fire reaches the fuel and they have a flash explosion.
@@jenniferbart3060 I guess they were wrong this time because that’s not what happened. I guess it all worked out for the best.
My biggest fear is growing fast… human behaviour being what it is I think many of us are growing leary of our tech devices.. but we are growing even more fearful of fire in an airplane.. Forget about snakes!!! 😮😢
I was here for the story but that quickly changed when I saw that beautiful chocolate news anchor. Then I continued the story
I bet the foolish person just closed the lid of the laptop but didn't actually power it off from power menu so it was technically on still with no air ventilation; fans kicked on and heat ensued.
A stampede?
1:05 steep slides
Lithium batteries dangerous
I guess a water bottle wasn’t an option?
F.A.R. And F.A.A. will now mandate no laptops with be allowed on planes…..😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
A Flaming laptop. Did it have a Flaming owner?
A stampede over a laptop burning???
Yes, that’s the story. What is the question?
Stampede?
Yikes
Im curious did anyone ope the emergency door with the slide😂...perfect opportunity