I was a line mechanic for an. airline for fifteen years. There then was a 50 lb. CO2 on wheels near every single gate, and most of the people on the ramp knew how to use them. The totally unacceptable response we see here is another example of how cost-cutting and dumbing down employees for cheaper wages has compromised your safety when you fly.
Had the same thought. They didn't shut off aircraft power, nobody ran to the CO2 or HALON extinguisher, the idiots on the right-hand wing didn't make an immediate egress down the slide, people taking their bags down the slides, scattered around everywhere.
I came here to say the same thing as an ex EAL mechanic, in the business for 41 years. Even if we were just running engines at the blast fence, there were always 2 very large fire extinguishers on large wagon-type wheels. One on the left side, one on the right.
The only thing I would be concerned is that this is an electrical short fire still energized. If they can’t secure the power then I would be very concerned with using the fire extinguisher.
That’s probably the worst response I’ve seen in recent history to an aviation fire. Watching ground crew running around like headless chickens or not paying attention at all is embarrassing. Obviously training appears lacking.
Exactly - does no one know where the fire extinguisher is and how to use it? Delta needs a safety standdown if that is the state of preparedness of their ramp personnel.
Were you paying attention to what is going on a couple of gates down? You have the advantage of an overall view AND a news title that states " Plane catches fire " so you KNOW that something is going to happen.
Well have u ever been in or conducted an evacuation? U need to wait for pilot instructions for one thing hence the delay perhaps...don't cast stones if u weren't there.
@@LucasRocha-xj6tm In an evac you're supposed to leave all your belongings behind. This smooths actually getting off the plane and would prevent pileups and trips over bulky belongings dropped or snagged in the aisles. Once off the slides all the people should be directed away to safety. The video showed them milling around like browns cows.
What a complete gong show Delta. GPU plug caught on fire. Hit the emergency power off button and spray area with fire extinguisher. It took me longer to write this comment than it should have taken to stop this fire.
@@user-xg2vy3ri6r It's actually the result of decades of the uber rich siphoning off all the wealth and leaving everyone else being paid so little they can barely survive let alone go above and beyond for a job.
This is we (flight crews) call some ground crew "knuckle draggers!" They are only going to do the bare minimum. Not sure if they even get fire extinguisher training. We are trained to identify the type of fire and what type of extinguisher to use. You don't want to use a water one to put our a fuel or electrical fire. Ground crews...hhhmmmm?
Escaping passengers leave with hand luggage and a few wander out along the wing, then wander, confused across the apron. Fire department turn up in convoy with no sense of urgency to discover the fire had apparently self-extinguished. Apron staff behave as if a fire is quite normal although inconvenient when unloading luggage. What an omni-shambles!
I thought the same about hand luggage but most people would have been p by that point as they are on stand and would have had their things with them. other cases i shall not comment
Yep that's right, hand luggage. I hope the cabin staff were using the F word , get off the f plane now. But you touch the luggage rake and... oh well!!
@@DRpokeme the plane was stopped for 4 min 30 sec before the first slide deployed. It was 5 minutes when the first door opened. Feels like nearly all the passengers were already holding their hand luggage by the time the crew called for evacuation. What were they supposed to do? Tell the passengers to take another 5 minutes to cram all the hand luggage back onto the overhead bins before you can leave the plane? Toss the bags onto the heads of passengers standing at their seats because the narrow corridor was too narrow for everybody to stand in simultaneously? Leave your bags in the corridor and block the path of subsequent passengers? Seems that the problem here was the decision to evacuate, the fire was noticed, far too late, and passengers already grabbed their luggage intending to exit using the air bridge.
Thats exactly what I thought... When I saw the first passengers coming out of the plane with their hand luggage i was like "here we go again, passengers that care more about their belongings than peoples lifes"... 5 seconds later I remembered that the plane is already at the gate and many passengers already must´ve had their belongings on them... but hey, for many commenters its too much to think about whats actually going on there...
I'm glad the ground crews grabbed their phones to get a cool video for their social media stories instead of the CO2 extinguishers. Great job everyone!
This is the airport with the worst ground staff IN THE WORLD! Just idiots who do NOTHING! They took no action to organize the departure of the passengers who ran like chickens across the apron! And the firefighters? A year after they WOKE UP, they arrived at the location! This airport is simply a MESS!
Apparently not a single person on the entire ground crew knows what a fire extinguisher is or how to use one. The fire could have been extinguished within 30 seconds if anyone on the ground crew had a brain.
I wonder if I would be proud to appear in that type of video... the guy that connected the external power to the plane could've saved so much money if he just ran for the emergency shut off button instead of walking around...
As someone who works this type of thing every day - everything was handled badly except for the Flight Crew's decision to pull the slides, which was the right thing to do. However, the ground crew being useless as to not have an extinguisher on the flames in a matter of seconds and the passengers fleeing all over an ACTIVE ramp without crowd control is egregious. All of this is prime video for training on what NOT to do. Training at US airports for incidents like these is slim to none - thus the response you see here...
This is what diversity and cultural enrichment look like. I worked at an airport for 15 years, they couldn’t care less about anything because it’s not their problem. That’s their attitude. When they saw that fire, they walked away because it’s not their airplane. Why should they care? America is rapidly turning into a Third World country.
@@danielch6662 no, no need for any of the flight crew to direct traffic off a wing. Passengers don’t typically jump off a wing from 15-20 feet. They’ll find the slide eventually
The crowd control was the cherry on top! 🤦♂️ I guess we shouldn’t expect much based on the firefighting efforts of these NPCs. These people are the reasons your flights are delayed. Delayed flights cost enormous amounts of money. These people are one of the reasons flights are so expensive (I guarantee it’s not their $14.50/hr pay). Biden is the main reason everything is expensive, but I’m tired of telling that story…
Former Firefighter here. The response time was completely unacceptable. I imagine this video will be used in future trainings as an example of what not to do. That was at least a 4 minute response time with an on site station that I assume was no more than a half mile away. In my department, if you took longer than 120 seconds from a dead sleep to get ready for a call, you were left behind to staff for other calls.
I get the feeling that the fire station is on the opposite side of the apriport. Even then, the firetruck needs to call the tower to cross active runways. I dont think the crew did anything wrong.
How so? You can clearly see the ala see the fire begin, and then walks over to where the power kill button would be located. But you some how can see thru the nose of the plane? And the then the ALA walks to the front where he radios the issue in to begin the emergency response. And once the doors and slides are deployed, the crews come over to assist. Your comment is extremely ignorant and full of assumptions because I watched the same video and thats not what I see happening
This looks like “proper training” to me. The ground staff didnt know what to do and called their supervisors. The supervisors didnt know what to do and called their managers. The managers didn’t know what to do and called the emergency services. Looks about right
NOTE person leaving plane and seems to turn around facing FLAMES then continues to walk AWAY FROM PLANE who ever that ONE PERSON LEAVING PLANE WAS??????
Looks like they did or it went out on it's own. Fire was out WAAAAY before Fire Services showed up. Unbelievable it took so long for Fire Services to get there!!
As a former cabin crew member, nothing pisses me off more than smug passengers who insist on seating in emergency exits and don't bother to listen to my briefing on how to open the doors and follow the red arrows down to the slides! They never listen and never look at the safety cards either. The first passengers off the overwing exits are prime examples! They were going to walk all the way to the wing tip? WTF? It would have been tragic if one stepped on the NO STEP sections of the wing and fallen off! Don't even get me started on idiots taking their bags impeding others to escape safely down the slides I had an emergency evacuation years ago in Tokyo and I actually grabbed two roller boards off American passengers and threw them in the galley. I had to help them slide down the slide too.
I noticed that. The passenger just started walking off towards the end of the wing. I was thinking “where the hell are you going!?” Also why is no one putting out the fire. Seems like it was burning for way too long
I fly LAX to HND a lot and since I saw that Jan JAL evacuation this flight fear started developing. I really hope people who sit on emergency exits understand their assignment when it happens but I'm sure they would probably be useless and many people try to carry their luggages or pets. sigh.
@@johnbergstrom2931 They knew by the time they were exiting the plane via the wing exit doors. I am referring to the ground crew that seemed to be oblivious.
The fact that no one was assigned to direct the deplaning passengers to a safe place, just letting them wander and run in any direction is appalling. The entire episode is appalling.
Being an engineer i can say this is an electrical fire. Its baffling why someone did not turn the emergency power off. Next the main breakers on the ac are also still on. Someone turn the power off.
There are no "main breakers" on the aircraft. Everything is controlled through relays. This is not a fault with the aircraft but the ground power connector has shorted on something. The aircraft would automatically reject power that is not within the correct parameters. The idiot who runs by at the beginning ran right past the emergency power stop button at the base of the jetbridge.
Fire extinguisher would probably not help in this case. Yes, it can extinguish a fire, but you can see sparks continuing so nothing would prevent it from just reigniting. Emergency power off might help, but if the lines are already damaged just killing the ground power feed might not be enough and killing all electricity (and as such most lights) with passengers on board might cause more harm due to them panicking than just letting the fire/sparks continue for a few minutes.
The two biggest issues I see here are how long it took to address the fire, and the number of passengers who came done the slides carrying their luggage (putting everyone behind them at risk).
@@notneilpeart Wrong. The Port has its own FD that is on site. There has been no funding cuts at that department. One has to wonder how quickly they were called as this group is very well trained and should have gotten there quicker than we see. Low wage ground crews (employed by the airlines) are likely the culprit.
Per my brother, an old-timer who worked for Northwest and then Delta at SeaTac: "We're trained yearly on fire extinguisher use... but we are not required to use them. Had it been me and old NW people, we would have been running for the cart. I've used one once on a fire in an engine tail cone and once on a cleaner's hilift truck that had an engine fire while up to an aircraft. The tail cone fire was maybe a few years ago and I was working cargo. Saw the fire, nobody on gate was doing anything, so I stopped and grabbed the cart and sprayed. The people they hire now would just run. I hadn't seen the whole thing. That was REALLY bad. They've turned it from a career job into a burger flipping job. That's what they get. That NEVER would have happened at SEA with NWA. Fucking incredible."
"The people they hire now would just run." Perhaps. Or they might pull out their phones to record it to put it on UA-cam or some other Social networking account. Hard to tell if anyone was doing any recording in this video, though.
...and you forgot employees who are almost certainly underpaid and just don't give a shit anymore as wealth continues to migrate to the top 1 percent. This is what it gets you.
WTF: Emergency deplaning time? Passengers nearly walking off the wing? Response time of the fire department is atrocious! Ground crew helpless sheeple!
Oh! Did you see all the passengers going in all different directions? Like where are they going? Why no one is stopping them. I bet the delta crew was pissed.
To be fair, the pilots could see black smoke coming off the aircraft and had no idea how bad it actually was. I can't blame them for instructing the cabin crew to deplane through the emergency exits. Imagine if it was worse and they went through the MCD and people got hurt. Then Delta gets sued. This way they are only out the cost of the slides and the aircraft being AOG for a week or so.
@@meRyanP deplaning was the right way, it's just that the passengers shouldn't be wobbling 360 around going back and forth. Poorly handled by the ground
Dreamer silly little Dreamer oh you got your head in your hands oh no oh no I say Dreamer because the plane has these fire extinguishers and they didn't do shit the the fire!!!!🤣🤣
Shame on us for wanting a cinematic response rather than a professional one. It was an electrical short. CO2 isn't going to put it out. Water, even worse. The fire appeared to be the shielding on the GPU wire burning off and the constant glow was the wire red hot. For whatever reason they were not able to stop the delivery of power and the fact those GPUs are supposed to shut off with even the slightest disruption tells me this is not operator error.
@@justing42 Fair enough on the correct name. What do you recon happened? Seems odd that a breaker wouldn't trigger on the gate power. If halon was there I agree it's equally odd no one got to it.
Unreal!!! The fire literally burned itself out..... Not one person grabbed a fire extinguisher and attempted to extinguish.... It wasn't a fire that was even out of control. If anything it looked like ground personnel looked at the fire and walked away... Great example of "Not my job..."
Love the fact people are more concerned with getting thier luggage through the emergency exit rather than trying to evacuate and move away from the plane.
Only takes a few seconds to grab your untagged carry-on luggage. Compared to hours/days/weeks for you to recover it (if at all) after leaving the plane without it. And it's not like any of them were aware of the small fire that started outside.
@@Michael-RayAnd a few seconds to get it through the exit. And a few to think about how to use the slide with it. I mean what’s the value of my life and the life of others compared to *my* suitcase.
Lets talk about how multiple people were taking their bags with them as they got off. It delays the entire evacuation process. When seconds matter, everyone needs to get off immediately or people die
Just noticed your comment after posting mine. Its the world of selfish so called privileged individuals who have a distorted view as to what is more valuable. their own luggage or other people's lives if baggage gets dropped on the way out blocking a clear path.
The passengers probably unaware for a few minutes and prepping their disembarking stuff, but STILL way too much carry on stuff would for sure compromise a different scenario and cause injuries or death!
The IDIOTS that took their bags with them during an emergency are the same "self-important" people that stand in the middle of a grocery aisle or at a green light and text or chit chat on their cell phones while everyone else is detouring around them. Some people ONLY THINK OF THEMSELVES AND THE HELL WITH EVERYONE ELSE !!!
Multiple failures in this evacuation. People grabbed their personal affects, longer than 90 sec evacuation, people walking on the wings without guidance or direction, fire burned for a prolonged time with 0 attempts to extinguish it. A complete lack of situational awareness all around.
Nobody is leaving their carry on behind in this situation. 😂 No obvious threat to life, right at the gate, it would cause so much headache not having your carry on for possibly days.
@@mattwatson That's actually horseshit - none of them knew there was "no obvious threat to life" - you have no right as a passenger, stuck inside a metal tube with next to no outside view, to assume you know there's no real threat. EVERY emergency evacuation must be treated as an escape from a potentially deadly situation, and grabbing your luggage on the way out could kill you, or someone else. Also, when you get on the ground, keep your head - if you're on an active airport ramp, FFS then watch where you're going - don't just wander aimlessly like most of these morons did.
Like you've ever had to do an emergency exit off the wing in a situation like this? The plane is on fire, people are afraid, they get out onto the wing, not knowing what to expect, so they missed the entrance to the slide for a very few seconds. No big deal. Completely justified. Didn't deserve the internet 'immature nasty comment clan' trying to get likes on their terrible comments. Just remember, 'likes' have and never will effect your life in any meaningful, or even unmeaningful way. Likes mean nothing. But comments that are made to hurt others...
Where are the fire extinguishers? They should be standard equipment on all service vehicles. The fire would have been extinguished before emergency vehicles arrived.
There is no universal fire extinguisher. The appropriate type of fire extinguisher needs to be used depending on the type of fire. It looks to me that this particular fire might be from some battery/electrical device. Using the wrong type of extinguisher can make things worse.
@@xavieryates9782 Fire was caused by arcing ground power cable. Piolets hit the kill switch on their end but that only works if the plane is the problem. Another kill switch is down the line for the ground power cable. The ground crew made no attempt to even hit it. There is the correct extinguisher is by the wheels on the jet bridge. The ground crew was just stupid and not trained.
@@x808drifter Ok. That's a clear explanation and lays responsibility squarely with the ground crew. Thank you! It's quite worrying that something like this happens a result of lack of professionalism from the ground crew. Anything to do with that hideous DEI initiative (😁)?
You're telling me that not one of the vehicles that was sitting there didn't have a fire extinguisher or 4 on it ?? and not 1 of them decided to make an attempt at putting the fire out with 1 of the 12 fire extinguishers within 20 feet of the plane ? Even the ambulance drove away. Such cowards!!! Every one of those vehicles has one or multiple fire extinguishers on them.
Its not their job? There is a specialized fire department for a reason. Nobodies life is in imminent danger. Who would risk their own health for a multi billion dollar airline that wont do anything for you if you put out the fire?
Legend has it the fire was greatly offended by the lack of fear and urgency it attempted to create and thus snuffed itself out in protest. What you just watched was a fire committing suicide for being disrespected.
I thought it was a long time to watch for a response too but you have to wonder how long before the airport FD was notified and how long does it take them to roll? It's not like they are going to be ready to roll all day.
I saw that too. A cabin crew member should be out on the wing to direct the passengers to the slide as opposed to the passengers totally missing their evacuation route in clear unobstructed conditions....
@@Pumpkinblimp if the obvious arrows don't help... plus typically the over wing exits aren't staffed although with how slow everyones response was to this, they prob could have sent a FA to the wing.
The fire was tired of waiting for someone to take action, grab a fire extinguisher or a fire crew to arrive. So, it put itself out. This is the most pathetic response to an emergency situation I have ever seen.
Should say “Delta *Airbus* plane catches fire after landing in Seattle.” Had it been the “other” plane maker, you know they would have included the name.
just like domestic cars vs import cars... if a domestic car trans has problems, it's " JUNK LIMMON " when its a Toyota " WELL Things happens here is my $8,000 , I just love this car "
From an evacuation perspective, that's the absolute worst time for it. Everybody's piled in the aisle, everybody's already got their hand luggage with them blocking the aisle, waiting to go out the front. Getting everybody to first understand the situation and then getting them pointed back towards the other end would create so much chaos and confusion...
I worked the ramp for quite a bit of time in the 1990's. I cannot believe they did not grab an extinguisher. One time we had a catering truck have an engine fire while pulled up to the Fwd galley. In under a minute we hooked up a tow bar and pushed the plane back since the truck couldn't move. Another ramper started extinguishing the trucks engine, wow those folks in the video seemed to be unsure what to do.
@@Michael_Scott_Howard You may want to check that again, the power cable was connected at 14 seconds into the video and the fire started at 18 seconds!!!
I like to think the Fire trucks were all on the other side of an active runway and the Tower was like: "yeah, uh....I got a bunch of arrivals, it'll be a minute."
Once upon a time a ground crew would know where the electrical shutoff button was for the ground power, then it would’ve been no problem to put out the fire with the attending CO2 fire extinguisher and after a short time the GP connector could be removed. Nowadays it seems you just run around like headless chickens waiting for someone else to do something?
It really makes me angry seeing people slowly exiting the airplane with their backpack and carry on luggage, while other people is still inside the airplane.
To be fair, chances are most of them already had their stuff by the time the pilot ordered the evacuation. In this case, it would been more dangerous to put them back in the storage compartment.
"may I have your attention, this is your flight attendant speaking. all those wanting to take their luggage with them are welcome to do so after everyone else without luggage has exitted first"....
@@Zico20 I agree completely, it's way different than an emergency landing or brake/motor fire. The seatbelt sign should has already been turned off in this situation. Few of the evacuations were passengers with bag on deserve zero blame.
The plane had stopped and by this point I would have put my backpack on as it is under the seat in front and I may already be standing. Would you want me to take the thing off?
There was a member of the ground crew messing around with the aircraft in the exact spot the fire started just a few moments before the fire started if you notice...🤔 Almost looked like a red flare to me...🤔
Amazing! The first group of people working under the plane disappeared so fast! They were thinking “I don’t think anyone see me! I better get out of here before I get hurt!”.
This looks like the video they will show in training of what NOT to do. It took fire over 9 minutes to get there. If this was near a fuel tank, the outcome may have been very different.
Am I the only one thinking "Let's go ahead and extinguish an already self extinguished electrical fire... with water..." Someone really wanted to pop their cherry and fire a high power hose into a jet plane.
As a retired Fire Chief w 40 years I respectfully disagree, there's probably 15 fire extinguishers including dry chemical and CO2 extinguishers in close proximity to the aircraft.. the problem was the ZERO action by all the employees who saw there was a fire, what a joke and so much for that required annual fire extinguisher training
@@msavAC60 I didn't see any in close proximity but maybe they were out of frame. In AF we had a chemical extinguisher within 10 feet of the nose when on the ramp. However, point taken, and I agree, it was more likely due to inaction by the ramp workers.
And once again seeing inconsiderate, selfish passengers ignoring all instructions and endangering the lives of others by grabbing their peronal belongings while evacuating. This slows down the entire process! They should be found and each one charged with the federal crime of failing to obey the instructions of the flight crew.
Maybe think for 1 second before getting all worked up! The plane was at the stand. What do people do the minute the plane stops? Get up and grab their stuff! You suggest they delay the evacuation by putting the hand luggage back up or maybe leave it in the aisles??
Amazing lack of action. The one thing I noticed was no direction of evacuating passengers on the over wing exit. Two blokes just started wandering off towards the wing end instead of down the slide. If you fell off the wing the drop to the ground would result in some injury at the very least.
It couldn’t happen in the sky because that’s exactly where they plug-in power to the plane and I’ll bet the pilot didn’t turn off the generator on the plane when they plugged it in
So I'm done ground crew work at an airport before back in the eighties and what surprises me there's not a fire extinguisher available for the ground crew we always had one stationed at the gate
It was mentioned (Airbus A321 NEO) in the introduction text. Airbus don't make Lithium batteries which seem to be a source of unexplained fires rather than faulty power cables.
Yep, it’s the charging port. that’s right where they plug-in shore power to the plane. Apparently the pilot didn’t turn off the power. At Alaska air we had to signal the pilot.
so because of pilot error, the plane's electronics are cooked? you would think they would have designed in an automatic transfer switch when switching between power supplies
For an unexpected fire, Delta did a good job getting the people out. 90 seconds, by the book. There was someone at the bottom of the slides to direct people. Ground people directing people where to go. Ground equipment moved very quickly out of the way. Fire department arriving within 3 to 4 minutes from a dead start without time to prepare. Considering the flight crew did not have time to brief passengers, they did an outstanding job. The most panic I saw was in the comment section.
To an untrained eye, and apparently one who failed to notice this video is sped up x2. Whoever uploaded this apparently knows that most UA-cam viewers have the attention span of a gnat. So, keeping that in mind... This was not handled well at all.... with the exception that the flight crew, once they actually released and opened the evacuation doors and activated the slides, the passengers do seem to be evacuating at a "calm" pace - although the crew should have told them to leave their items behind and just get off the plane. The first few passengers off walk off out of view, so we don't know if they were directed to do so by someone, or just took it upon themselves to wander off. The majority of the passengers, once on the tarmac pretty much just stand around gawking, and **no one was there directing them** as to where they needed to go. BTW, the flight crew DOES brief passengers - at the beginning of every single flight. Unfortunately no one ever listens to them or reads the cards in the pocket right in front of them. The flight crew had plenty of time to say, "Leave your items and please calmly exit the plane at all open emergency exits". As for the fire itself... this is absolute ineptitude (to someone who knows what SHOULD have happened). The minute the ground plug arched and lit up, the ground crew should have... 1) Contacted the pilot to let him/her know their nose was on fire at the ground plug connection, 2) walked over to the gate and gotten the CO2 extinguisher and either pulled the ground plug out, or hit the emergency off and then extinguished the fire. The ground crew did not do anything to extinguish the fire. Instead they stood around and did nothing - some even just walked away. This is a result of horribly bad training. Third... the Fire brigade response time. Absolutely deplorable. It was almost 10 minutes before the first truck even rolled up, and by then the fire was already out. I won't begin to assume what could have possibly delayed their response time, considering large airports like this have fire response trucks specifically staged to handle parking/gate fires. It should only take 2-3 minutes to respond.
I was a line mechanic for an. airline for fifteen years. There then was a 50 lb. CO2 on wheels near every single gate, and most of the people on the ramp knew how to use them. The totally unacceptable response we see here is another example of how cost-cutting and dumbing down employees for cheaper wages has compromised your safety when you fly.
Had the same thought. They didn't shut off aircraft power, nobody ran to the CO2 or HALON extinguisher, the idiots on the right-hand wing didn't make an immediate egress down the slide, people taking their bags down the slides, scattered around everywhere.
I came here to say the same thing as an ex EAL mechanic, in the business for 41 years. Even if we were just running engines at the blast fence, there were always 2 very large fire extinguishers on large wagon-type wheels. One on the left side, one on the right.
The only thing I would be concerned is that this is an electrical short fire still energized. If they can’t secure the power then I would be very concerned with using the fire extinguisher.
I agree with you sir. People feels not engaged with their jobs, no responsability feelings.
@@rafaelrivera9346 So, even with a CO2 extinguisher unless the electrical circuit is shut down would it make any difference?
That’s probably the worst response I’ve seen in recent history to an aviation fire. Watching ground crew running around like headless chickens or not paying attention at all is embarrassing. Obviously training appears lacking.
Exactly - does no one know where the fire extinguisher is and how to use it? Delta needs a safety standdown if that is the state of preparedness of their ramp personnel.
Were you paying attention to what is going on a couple of gates down? You have the advantage of an overall view AND a news title that states " Plane catches fire " so you KNOW that something is going to happen.
The only people running are the disembarked passengers...
Crews are being willfully ignorant
You can’t be more right!
pathetic response.
The fire put itself out. It got tired of waiting for the fire department. 😂
Someone had finally cut the power, amazing response time.
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I was a Flight Attendant for over 30 years and this is the worst evacuation that I ever saw… terrible!!
I understand the bad response from the ground crew, but why the evac was terrible?
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Looked bad from here too. Why were two people headed off the wing tip. And then everybody’s wandering around the tarmac at the sea-tac.
Well have u ever been in or conducted an evacuation? U need to wait for pilot instructions for one thing hence the delay perhaps...don't cast stones if u weren't there.
@@LucasRocha-xj6tm In an evac you're supposed to leave all your belongings behind. This smooths actually getting off the plane and would prevent pileups and trips over bulky belongings dropped or snagged in the aisles.
Once off the slides all the people should be directed away to safety. The video showed them milling around like browns cows.
What a complete gong show Delta. GPU plug caught on fire. Hit the emergency power off button and spray area with fire extinguisher. It took me longer to write this comment than it should have taken to stop this fire.
Diversity Equity Inclusion in Seattle.
Thanks fake professor
@@user-xg2vy3ri6r It's actually the result of decades of the uber rich siphoning off all the wealth and leaving everyone else being paid so little they can barely survive let alone go above and beyond for a job.
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That’s the stupidest comment I’ve read all week.
What emergency power button? Are you aware that the flames where pretty high in the air making it difficult for a fire extinguisher to reach ?
YOU TELLING ME 3 MINUTES INTO THE FIRE NOBODY IN THOSE UTILLITY TRUCKS HAVE A FIRE EXTIGUISHER?????
It’s either a regulatory oversight or, and this is really dumb but possible……shortage of fire extinguishers.
@FadeintotheShadows yep fire on board and everybody is doing nothing
It's not their job, nor are they trained, to assess or put out fires. They have an entire fire department at the airport to deal with fires.
This is we (flight crews) call some ground crew "knuckle draggers!" They are only going to do the bare minimum. Not sure if they even get fire extinguisher training. We are trained to identify the type of fire and what type of extinguisher to use. You don't want to use a water one to put our a fuel or electrical fire. Ground crews...hhhmmmm?
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Escaping passengers leave with hand luggage and a few wander out along the wing, then wander, confused across the apron. Fire department turn up in convoy with no sense of urgency to discover the fire had apparently self-extinguished. Apron staff behave as if a fire is quite normal although inconvenient when unloading luggage. What an omni-shambles!
I thought the same about hand luggage but most people would have been p by that point as they are on stand and would have had their things with them. other cases i shall not comment
I felt sorry for the flaps when this guy was walking on them. I dont know what they were thinking... probably nothing
Yep that's right, hand luggage. I hope the cabin staff were using the F word , get off the f plane now. But you touch the luggage rake and... oh well!!
@@DRpokeme the plane was stopped for 4 min 30 sec before the first slide deployed. It was 5 minutes when the first door opened. Feels like nearly all the passengers were already holding their hand luggage by the time the crew called for evacuation. What were they supposed to do? Tell the passengers to take another 5 minutes to cram all the hand luggage back onto the overhead bins before you can leave the plane? Toss the bags onto the heads of passengers standing at their seats because the narrow corridor was too narrow for everybody to stand in simultaneously? Leave your bags in the corridor and block the path of subsequent passengers?
Seems that the problem here was the decision to evacuate, the fire was noticed, far too late, and passengers already grabbed their luggage intending to exit using the air bridge.
Thats exactly what I thought... When I saw the first passengers coming out of the plane with their hand luggage i was like "here we go again, passengers that care more about their belongings than peoples lifes"... 5 seconds later I remembered that the plane is already at the gate and many passengers already must´ve had their belongings on them... but hey, for many commenters its too much to think about whats actually going on there...
I'm glad the ground crews grabbed their phones to get a cool video for their social media stories instead of the CO2 extinguishers. Great job everyone!
Make you wonder whether they were related to the Uvalde Police Department🙄.
😂😂😂
To be honest, its not their aeroplane.
This is the airport with the worst ground staff IN THE WORLD! Just idiots who do NOTHING! They took no action to organize the departure of the passengers who ran like chickens across the apron! And the firefighters? A year after they WOKE UP, they arrived at the location! This airport is simply a MESS!
Today our preception of being a hero is to grab that phone at first sight. Because unless it's on camera, it never happen.
Apparently not a single person on the entire ground crew knows what a fire extinguisher is or how to use one. The fire could have been extinguished within 30 seconds if anyone on the ground crew had a brain.
I’m telling you smh
Or the fire extinguishers were in the wrong place altogether ?
these people are bots, NPCs they are so far inside of their system that anything thats new they cannot handle
They were al probably trying to get a selfie with it burning, this generation are all useless brain dead idiots.
15$/h why risk being sued for mishandling?
A perfect case study for what NOT to do in an emergency!!
I wonder if I would be proud to appear in that type of video... the guy that connected the external power to the plane could've saved so much money if he just ran for the emergency shut off button instead of walking around...
But my training was to run around in circles. Are you telling me all my training was wasted?
Do not know if stated, but look at all the idiot passengers exiting with their carry ons.
@@jhonniewalkerinpasig7971And proceed to take videos and hang around the plane, they’re lucky the fire wasn’t close to the fuel tanks
@@jhonniewalkerinpasig7971 they were probably holding their belongings since the plane had already stopped
As someone who works this type of thing every day - everything was handled badly except for the Flight Crew's decision to pull the slides, which was the right thing to do. However, the ground crew being useless as to not have an extinguisher on the flames in a matter of seconds and the passengers fleeing all over an ACTIVE ramp without crowd control is egregious. All of this is prime video for training on what NOT to do.
Training at US airports for incidents like these is slim to none - thus the response you see here...
Should one of the cabin crew have exited the over-wing doors and stand on the wing to guide passengers?
This is what diversity and cultural enrichment look like. I worked at an airport for 15 years, they couldn’t care less about anything because it’s not their problem. That’s their attitude. When they saw that fire, they walked away because it’s not their airplane. Why should they care? America is rapidly turning into a Third World country.
@@danielch6662 no, no need for any of the flight crew to direct traffic off a wing. Passengers don’t typically jump off a wing from 15-20 feet. They’ll find the slide eventually
The crowd control was the cherry on top! 🤦♂️ I guess we shouldn’t expect much based on the firefighting efforts of these NPCs. These people are the reasons your flights are delayed. Delayed flights cost enormous amounts of money. These people are one of the reasons flights are so expensive (I guarantee it’s not their $14.50/hr pay). Biden is the main reason everything is expensive, but I’m tired of telling that story…
And if you need guidance, it’s time to rethink flying and voting. It’s not a magic bus ride, kids
Former Firefighter here. The response time was completely unacceptable. I imagine this video will be used in future trainings as an example of what not to do. That was at least a 4 minute response time with an on site station that I assume was no more than a half mile away. In my department, if you took longer than 120 seconds from a dead sleep to get ready for a call, you were left behind to staff for other calls.
I get the feeling that the fire station is on the opposite side of the apriport. Even then, the firetruck needs to call the tower to cross active runways. I dont think the crew did anything wrong.
Pathetic ground crew response. No one turned off the ground power after seeing the plug arcing, or even bothered to yank the cord out.
to be fair, emergency shut off is safer than yanking the arcing plug out and getting electrocuted, but agreed the ground crew response was pathetic
@@rotaryenginepete Yep, pilots did hit the kill ground switch from what I can see in the camera but nobody on the ground even went to the button.
How so? You can clearly see the ala see the fire begin, and then walks over to where the power kill button would be located. But you some how can see thru the nose of the plane? And the then the ALA walks to the front where he radios the issue in to begin the emergency response. And once the doors and slides are deployed, the crews come over to assist.
Your comment is extremely ignorant and full of assumptions because I watched the same video and thats not what I see happening
@@Triplesevn33 It sounds like you actually know what you are talking about, so I am going to listen to you. :)
"It's not MY plane, I don'tget paid to do that?" (Is their attitude).
This looks like “proper training” to me. The ground staff didnt know what to do and called their supervisors. The supervisors didnt know what to do and called their managers. The managers didn’t know what to do and called the emergency services. Looks about right
That's the SOP flowchart.😂
The 'proper training' is wrong. The emergency was handled far too slowly.
@@margin606(They were being sarcastic)
NOTE person leaving plane and seems to turn around facing FLAMES then continues to walk AWAY FROM PLANE who ever that ONE PERSON LEAVING PLANE WAS??????
And finally the passengers didn't know what to do😮
That was terrifying. Thank God the fire got bored of waiting for the fire department to show up
😅😅
😂😂
People look clueless down there
Dopo 4 minuti sono intervenuti .. calma .. calma😂
Well fires do sometimes run out of fuel. Not all of an airplane is made out of plastic (solidified oil).
Unbelievable that the ground crew couldn't take care of this small fire.
Looks like they did or it went out on it's own. Fire was out WAAAAY before Fire Services showed up. Unbelievable it took so long for Fire Services to get there!!
Yeah, well, it's not my fire mate. Nuffin to do wiv me.
I don't think SAFETY is the Airlines Industry Priority.
Giving Enormous Bonuses to Higher Ups is the Goal Here!
unionize , and not part of their job description
First time I ever fast forwarded a video of a plane on fire!
Yep!
Did it too.
As a former cabin crew member, nothing pisses me off more than smug passengers who insist on seating in emergency exits and don't bother to listen to my briefing on how to open the doors and follow the red arrows down to the slides! They never listen and never look at the safety cards either. The first passengers off the overwing exits are prime examples! They were going to walk all the way to the wing tip? WTF? It would have been tragic if one stepped on the NO STEP sections of the wing and fallen off! Don't even get me started on idiots taking their bags impeding others to escape safely down the slides I had an emergency evacuation years ago in Tokyo and I actually grabbed two roller boards off American passengers and threw them in the galley. I had to help them slide down the slide too.
Maybe they thought they were in a river?
I noticed that. The passenger just started walking off towards the end of the wing. I was thinking “where the hell are you going!?”
Also why is no one putting out the fire. Seems like it was burning for way too long
I fly LAX to HND a lot and since I saw that Jan JAL evacuation this flight fear started developing. I really hope people who sit on emergency exits understand their assignment when it happens but I'm sure they would probably be useless and many people try to carry their luggages or pets. sigh.
@@DanielHettichmaybe they thought the luggage conveyor was a ramp
What was the emergency evacuation you mentioned? Not doubting or anything just curious
To say that the response to this fire was "disheartening" would be a serious understatement!
As the machines become better humans become worse by the day. It won't end well.
I doubt the passengers even knew there was a fire. It was on the outside of the plane.
@@johnbergstrom2931 They knew by the time they were exiting the plane via the wing exit doors. I am referring to the ground crew that seemed to be oblivious.
The fact that no one was assigned to direct the deplaning passengers to a safe place, just letting them wander and run in any direction is appalling. The entire episode is appalling.
Right! So much could’ve gone wrong!
I've heard so many jokes about American nation getting dumber... This video confirms, the jokes are based on the true stories.
We're NOT GETTING DUMBER... The rest of the world is just getting smarter (without us:). Cheers MZF.
@ovalwingnut you made my day 😂
BLM
It's no joke, and it's not just America. This is what happens when you abandon meritocracy.
The joys of end stage capitalism.
Being an engineer i can say this is an electrical fire. Its baffling why someone did not turn the emergency power off. Next the main breakers on the ac are also still on. Someone turn the power off.
Boeing is holding on line 3. they what you "back" Cheers Mdude.
There are no "main breakers" on the aircraft. Everything is controlled through relays. This is not a fault with the aircraft but the ground power connector has shorted on something. The aircraft would automatically reject power that is not within the correct parameters. The idiot who runs by at the beginning ran right past the emergency power stop button at the base of the jetbridge.
@@SgfGustafsson GR8T insights Gustaf
And everyone in comments wants to spray water or a fire extinguisher on an electrical fire…
Even I knew the problem just by watching videos on UA-cam!
Worst response time for FD and anyone heard of a fire extinguisher? It's like watching a three stooges spoof!
What was the FD response time?
It was probably arcing, sparking, and making a helluva scary ass noise, it was an electrical fire with the ground power unit plug.
Fire extinguisher would probably not help in this case. Yes, it can extinguish a fire, but you can see sparks continuing so nothing would prevent it from just reigniting. Emergency power off might help, but if the lines are already damaged just killing the ground power feed might not be enough and killing all electricity (and as such most lights) with passengers on board might cause more harm due to them panicking than just letting the fire/sparks continue for a few minutes.
The Stooges would've at least TRIED to put it out.
@@virgilhilts3924: They only showed up to give the ground crew a ride away from the burning plane, not to extinguish the fire. 🤣
The two biggest issues I see here are how long it took to address the fire, and the number of passengers who came done the slides carrying their luggage (putting everyone behind them at risk).
6 minutes for the first emergency vehicle!
Dont airports have their own fire departments?
What a disgrace.
It's Seattle..... they defunded the fire department too.
@@notneilpeart Wrong. The Port has its own FD that is on site. There has been no funding cuts at that department. One has to wonder how quickly they were called as this group is very well trained and should have gotten there quicker than we see. Low wage ground crews (employed by the airlines) are likely the culprit.
@@notneilpeart yup. every democratic cities defunded their police and fire departments.
@@davidfreiboth1360the joke went over your head.
I agree when i was in the airport fire service we had 3 minutes to get the fine anywhere on the airfield.
Per my brother, an old-timer who worked for Northwest and then Delta at SeaTac:
"We're trained yearly on fire extinguisher use... but we are not required to use them. Had it been me and old NW people, we would have been running for the cart. I've used one once on a fire in an engine tail cone and once on a cleaner's hilift truck that had an engine fire while up to an aircraft. The tail cone fire was maybe a few years ago and I was working cargo. Saw the fire, nobody on gate was doing anything, so I stopped and grabbed the cart and sprayed. The people they hire now would just run.
I hadn't seen the whole thing. That was REALLY bad. They've turned it from a career job into a burger flipping job. That's what they get. That NEVER would have happened at SEA with NWA. Fucking incredible."
Great comment. I also like how you worded it: "They've turned it from a career job into a burger flipping job."
"The people they hire now would just run." Perhaps. Or they might pull out their phones to record it to put it on UA-cam or some other Social networking account. Hard to tell if anyone was doing any recording in this video, though.
@@alananderson8619 yes you are so right!!
the people had AMPLE time to get out thru the gate too. They just wanted a reason to bust out that damn slide.
@@tonyvelasquez6776as soon as there is fire, a plane gets evacuated, even if its small.
Cut costs with 3rd party "contracted" rampers and this is what you get. People with no clue of what to do in an abnormal situation.
3rd party hiring 3rd world. But yay migration
@@lstuart2704 But yay record profits for the airlines and those who own stocks!
Still should be trained... Ridiculous.
...and you forgot employees who are almost certainly underpaid and just don't give a shit anymore as wealth continues to migrate to the top 1 percent. This is what it gets you.
you mean with "any situation"
No fire extinguishers were harmed in the making of this video.
😂😂
Today’s typical worker: “That’s not my job. I’m not a firefighter.”
Today's typical worker -- I could have handled that way better
Put in the actual situation to handle it -- "mommy!"
On their phones probably
Umm... Okay?
Exactly. No one what’s to go above and beyond for anything or anyone.
yep, over-specialization of work is a real issue.
WTF: Emergency deplaning time? Passengers nearly walking off the wing? Response time of the fire department is atrocious! Ground crew helpless sheeple!
Over 2 minutes and plane not even full. Whatever happened to 90 sec?
Oh! Did you see all the passengers going in all different directions? Like where are they going? Why no one is stopping them. I bet the delta crew was pissed.
To be fair, the pilots could see black smoke coming off the aircraft and had no idea how bad it actually was. I can't blame them for instructing the cabin crew to deplane through the emergency exits. Imagine if it was worse and they went through the MCD and people got hurt. Then Delta gets sued. This way they are only out the cost of the slides and the aircraft being AOG for a week or so.
@@meRyanP deplaning was the right way, it's just that the passengers shouldn't be wobbling 360 around going back and forth. Poorly handled by the ground
Did you notice that after exiting from the wing, some passengers were wandering over to see what the problem was.......
That’s an unacceptably slow evacuation.
Love how the ground crew is just standing there watching the fire!
normal behavior
For real 😂
They were just pissed off that they hadn't packed any marshmallows in their lunches that day.
"Hey guys! If we ignore the fire, then it doesn't exist!" "Okay!"
Just minority things 🌈
Thanks to modern technology we now have an apparatus called a fire extinguisher so we can say goodbye to these type of incidents
Likely not trained nor do they have an extinguisher.
Right On B4902. I'm going to guess that using the extinguisher comes out of their checks..
FIRE EXTIGUISHER COSTS MONEY!! NO MONEY! NO HONEY!
Probably would end up using water or foam extinguishers and get electrocuted.........
Powder or CO2 for electrics!
Dreamer silly little Dreamer oh you got your head in your hands oh no oh no I say Dreamer because the plane has these fire extinguishers and they didn't do shit the the fire!!!!🤣🤣
It cost Delta more to have the slides activated than it would to train their ground crews. The airport fire department must have been liquored up.
The response is less about Delta and more about the ground crew at SeaTac. The ground crew is not employed by the airline.
@@artflorez1568 you know nothing.....these are DELTA EMPLOYEES. (psssst I work there) and they are trained to smash bags....PERIOD
They don't work for DAL. They are all contractors because US airlines are too profit-driven to hire their own staff.
Not to mention the injury settlements to the passengers (some of them limped away from the slides, extremely common with evac slides).
@@artflorez1568dude, major airlines hire their own ground crews, even when they don’t have a hub somewhere.
I don't know what's worse, people searching for luggage, security measures or that no one knows how to use a fire extinguisher. 😒
shame on the ground crew, what a slow response in using the available firefighting equipment to put out this level of fire
Shame on us for wanting a cinematic response rather than a professional one. It was an electrical short. CO2 isn't going to put it out. Water, even worse. The fire appeared to be the shielding on the GPU wire burning off and the constant glow was the wire red hot. For whatever reason they were not able to stop the delivery of power and the fact those GPUs are supposed to shut off with even the slightest disruption tells me this is not operator error.
@@wizardmix it is GATE power first of all. And we use HALON bottles.
@@justing42 Fair enough on the correct name. What do you recon happened? Seems odd that a breaker wouldn't trigger on the gate power. If halon was there I agree it's equally odd no one got to it.
Unreal!!! The fire literally burned itself out..... Not one person grabbed a fire extinguisher and attempted to extinguish.... It wasn't a fire that was even out of control. If anything it looked like ground personnel looked at the fire and walked away... Great example of "Not my job..."
Love the fact people are more concerned with getting thier luggage through the emergency exit rather than trying to evacuate and move away from the plane.
Only takes a few seconds to grab your untagged carry-on luggage. Compared to hours/days/weeks for you to recover it (if at all) after leaving the plane without it. And it's not like any of them were aware of the small fire that started outside.
It looked like some of the passengers doubled back with mobiles to film it 🙄
That is why they do not allow passengers to carry big suitcases with them. People are least concerned about others safety.
Screws over the last people off the plane. Lucky it wasn’t time sensitive or a major disaster; then it would’ve been tragic
@@Michael-RayAnd a few seconds to get it through the exit. And a few to think about how to use the slide with it. I mean what’s the value of my life and the life of others compared to *my* suitcase.
please take license from Seattle-Tacoma International Airport and all persons on course for safety again !!!
That is an unbelievable lack of response there!! What, not a single fire extinguisher around????? Amazing.
I CANNOT WAIT for the NTSB report on this one 🤯
New air crash investigation episode soon 🔥
How much will Delta pay NTSB to keep quiet.
Report wrote by Boeing lol seems so strange incident that can caught fire like that..
@@aCoolHHChannelit appears it was an a320
No vehicles in motion so I don’t think this would be investigated by NTSB?
Firechief Wiggum: "Nah.. that little flame will burn itself out, just give it time. Lets wait and see Lou"
Not a single fire extinquishing attempt before the brigade arrives.
For a couple of minutes, I thought maybe they were waiting to get out the coat hangers and the marshmallows.
Kumbaya... Ground crew was probably running around to find smores...
Lets talk about how multiple people were taking their bags with them as they got off. It delays the entire evacuation process. When seconds matter, everyone needs to get off immediately or people die
Just noticed your comment after posting mine. Its the world of selfish so called privileged individuals who have a distorted view as to what is more valuable. their own luggage or other people's lives if baggage gets dropped on the way out blocking a clear path.
nothing like hyperbole
The passengers probably unaware for a few minutes and prepping their disembarking stuff, but STILL way too much carry on stuff would for sure compromise a different scenario and cause injuries or death!
The IDIOTS that took their bags with them during an emergency are the same "self-important" people that stand in the middle of a grocery aisle or at a green light and text or chit chat on their cell phones while everyone else is detouring around them. Some people ONLY THINK OF THEMSELVES AND THE HELL WITH EVERYONE ELSE !!!
@@iconoclad sorry not buying that.
Catches fire and everybody is doing nothing
they were busy running around like headless chickens.
actually they do something.... like watch and say "weeeeee today is my off day!"
Yeah, I expected somebody to bring the bag of Large Marshmallows.
Thats not true they got the Passengers off so they could watch too.... excellent service.
@@rogerwolstenholme2710 oh yeah . Blaze show for free
Multiple failures in this evacuation. People grabbed their personal affects, longer than 90 sec evacuation, people walking on the wings without guidance or direction, fire burned for a prolonged time with 0 attempts to extinguish it. A complete lack of situational awareness all around.
Given the fire happened after the plane was parked, most passengers would have their belongings in hands before the evacuation was ordered
But the wing walkers knew to clear the slide.
Those folks in back stood there like bowling pins
Nobody is leaving their carry on behind in this situation. 😂 No obvious threat to life, right at the gate, it would cause so much headache not having your carry on for possibly days.
@@mattwatson That's actually horseshit - none of them knew there was "no obvious threat to life" - you have no right as a passenger, stuck inside a metal tube with next to no outside view, to assume you know there's no real threat. EVERY emergency evacuation must be treated as an escape from a potentially deadly situation, and grabbing your luggage on the way out could kill you, or someone else. Also, when you get on the ground, keep your head - if you're on an active airport ramp, FFS then watch where you're going - don't just wander aimlessly like most of these morons did.
@@ronaldkonkoma4356 they didn't know to clear the slide...trust me...i work there
What a Cluster.
The two people walking onto the wing are truly fascinating creatures.
Hahaha I was thinking the same thing! They walked right over the arrows, which shouldn’t be needed considering the huge ass slide is right there
😂😂
they had parachutes obviously
My first time ever seeing passengers walking on the wings 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Like you've ever had to do an emergency exit off the wing in a situation like this? The plane is on fire, people are afraid, they get out onto the wing, not knowing what to expect, so they missed the entrance to the slide for a very few seconds. No big deal. Completely justified. Didn't deserve the internet 'immature nasty comment clan' trying to get likes on their terrible comments. Just remember, 'likes' have and never will effect your life in any meaningful, or even unmeaningful way. Likes mean nothing. But comments that are made to hurt others...
"Cost saving"
Sorry this job requires no level of experience. So your salary request declined.
fire extinguishers illegal in seattle..?
Yes. They are considered weapons of war in Seattle.
Assault Fire Extinguishers are banned and only the criminals have them.
The ground crew is illegal in seattle
@@manrayma lol, airports pay that big minimum wage for ground crew ,
They only put them on clown cars!
Well, it IS Seattle and Co2 is a green house gas.
Where are the fire extinguishers? They should be standard equipment on all service vehicles. The fire would have been extinguished before emergency vehicles arrived.
they are too busy running around like chickens ,
There is no universal fire extinguisher. The appropriate type of fire extinguisher needs to be used depending on the type of fire. It looks to me that this particular fire might be from some battery/electrical device. Using the wrong type of extinguisher can make things worse.
@@xavieryates9782 Fire was caused by arcing ground power cable. Piolets hit the kill switch on their end but that only works if the plane is the problem. Another kill switch is down the line for the ground power cable. The ground crew made no attempt to even hit it.
There is the correct extinguisher is by the wheels on the jet bridge.
The ground crew was just stupid and not trained.
@@x808drifter Ok. That's a clear explanation and lays responsibility squarely with the ground crew. Thank you!
It's quite worrying that something like this happens a result of lack of professionalism from the ground crew. Anything to do with that hideous DEI initiative (😁)?
No fire extinguishers because they offend LGBTQ and BLM.
You're telling me that not one of the vehicles that was sitting there didn't have a fire extinguisher or 4 on it ?? and not 1 of them decided to make an attempt at putting the fire out with 1 of the 12 fire extinguishers within 20 feet of the plane ? Even the ambulance drove away. Such cowards!!! Every one of those vehicles has one or multiple fire extinguishers on them.
Lazy losers in a state that rewards stupidity. EVERYTHING WOKE, turns to caca, including airlines run by weirdo's.
So many the plug wet when it'd active...😂 thats SMART
Its not their job? There is a specialized fire department for a reason. Nobodies life is in imminent danger. Who would risk their own health for a multi billion dollar airline that wont do anything for you if you put out the fire?
zero vehicles have fire extinguishers
A bit over four and a half minute fire and no one from the ramp knows, how to use a fire extinguisher??? Seattle, I will never fly to this airport!
Legend has it. That fire still burns to this day.
See! Now "that's" FUNNY
Legend has it the fire was greatly offended by the lack of fear and urgency it attempted to create and thus snuffed itself out in protest. What you just watched was a fire committing suicide for being disrespected.
@@FirstLastOne That ship has already sailed but nice try *LastOne... 100 Points awarded for effort
No one tried to put out the fire for almost 4 minutes.
Yep, that somes it up RoBer. Nothing more to say except just simply ShOcK & AWE at what we just witnessed.
I thought it was a long time to watch for a response too but you have to wonder how long before the airport FD was notified and how long does it take them to roll? It's not like they are going to be ready to roll all day.
@@nelsonbergman7706 I'm surprised that there wasn't a fire extinguisher close by.
we are trained NOT to fight fire
The two dudes that walked past the slide and headed out onto the wing though! 🤣🤣
walk the plank!
I saw that too. A cabin crew member should be out on the wing to direct the passengers to the slide as opposed to the passengers totally missing their evacuation route in clear unobstructed conditions....
@@Pumpkinblimp if the obvious arrows don't help... plus typically the over wing exits aren't staffed although with how slow everyones response was to this, they prob could have sent a FA to the wing.
Someone needs to teach the ground crew to grab a damn fire extinguisher. Jesus Christ. Let’s just stand around and wait for a fire truck???
Six minutes before fire trucks arrived. No fire extinguishers in sight, the fire had already put itself out.
The fire was tired of waiting for someone to take action, grab a fire extinguisher or a fire crew to arrive. So, it put itself out. This is the most pathetic response to an emergency situation I have ever seen.
It's Seattle..... they defunded the fire department too.
And the actual “ crash truck “ was the last to arrive and took the worst possible position…
@@anthonymalvoso6100 how about the airport ramp patrol vehicle at the bottom that just drove away
Should say “Delta *Airbus* plane catches fire after landing in Seattle.” Had it been the “other” plane maker, you know they would have included the name.
So right and sooooo sick of the news media!!!!!!!!!
just like domestic cars vs import cars... if a domestic car trans has problems, it's " JUNK LIMMON " when its a Toyota " WELL Things happens here is my $8,000 , I just love this car "
I thought the Sam exact thing.
😂😂 Are you sure It was a problem with the Airbus?
Damn Boeing, now you even making your competition's airplane catch on fire. Can't you do anything right?
They gathered all their friends to come see the burning plane before showing up
Ppl leaving with luggage should receive a fine on the spot.
From an evacuation perspective, that's the absolute worst time for it. Everybody's piled in the aisle, everybody's already got their hand luggage with them blocking the aisle, waiting to go out the front. Getting everybody to first understand the situation and then getting them pointed back towards the other end would create so much chaos and confusion...
Serviço de combate ao fogo irrefutavelmente INCOMPETENTE! IMPRUDÊNCIA, NEGLIGÊNCIA, IMPERÍCIA.
I worked the ramp for quite a bit of time in the 1990's. I cannot believe they did not grab an extinguisher. One time we had a catering truck have an engine fire while pulled up to the Fwd galley. In under a minute we hooked up a tow bar and pushed the plane back since the truck couldn't move. Another ramper started extinguishing the trucks engine, wow those folks in the video seemed to be unsure what to do.
Budget cuts
The Boeing and Airbus rivalry is heating up.
Airbus is't in the power-cable making business last time i checked...
@@HansTheGeek there was no power cable yet.
it's not always Boeing. how about that.
@@Michael_Scott_Howard You may want to check that again, the power cable was connected at 14 seconds into the video and the fire started at 18 seconds!!!
@@eaglehead1 Sorry for hurting your feelings that was not my intention 😘
It is shocking to witness it took this long for the emergency firebrigade to respond.
Absolutely disgraceful
I like to think the Fire trucks were all on the other side of an active runway and the Tower was like: "yeah, uh....I got a bunch of arrivals, it'll be a minute."
Beyond appealing. Had I not witnessed the facts, as displayed in this vudeo, I would not believe such incompetence possible.
Once upon a time a ground crew would know where the electrical shutoff button was for the ground power, then it would’ve been no problem to put out the fire with the attending CO2 fire extinguisher and after a short time the GP connector could be removed. Nowadays it seems you just run around like headless chickens waiting for someone else to do something?
Or to pull out their smart phones and start recording.
The ground crew probably got their "training" by watching a video. We know how effective that is.
we use HALON there smart one
It really makes me angry seeing people slowly exiting the airplane with their backpack and carry on luggage, while other people is still inside the airplane.
To be fair, chances are most of them already had their stuff by the time the pilot ordered the evacuation. In this case, it would been more dangerous to put them back in the storage compartment.
"may I have your attention, this is your flight attendant speaking. all those wanting to take their luggage with them are welcome to do so after everyone else without luggage has exitted first"....
@@Zico20 I agree completely, it's way different than an emergency landing or brake/motor fire. The seatbelt sign should has already been turned off in this situation. Few of the evacuations were passengers with bag on deserve zero blame.
The plane had stopped and by this point I would have put my backpack on as it is under the seat in front and I may already be standing. Would you want me to take the thing off?
Over seven minutes for the fire trucks to show up..
Why does it take so long for emergency staff to respond?
and/or didn't any of the ground crew know how to operate a fire extinguisher?
Is 4 minutes a slow response time for emergency services racing through tarmacs busy with aircraft?
Union workers.
@@chnalvr yes!
@@chnalvryes ✅
Ground crew should I get the baggage off or radio for a fire truck..... let me scratch my balls and ponder.... 😂
Nobody on the ground guiding people away. Would be interesting to know what went wrong there.
There was a member of the ground crew messing around with the aircraft in the exact spot the fire started just a few moments before the fire started if you notice...🤔 Almost looked like a red flare to me...🤔
@kskeel1124 this is electrical stuff
Everything
the cable itself was bad a few inches below where it connects to the plane. ( i work there...i saw it)
Training and training - unacceptable response!
Had this been a Boeing jet and not an Air Bus the major news feeds would have been all over this....amazing how they try to direct our thinking.
THIS
Why? Is airbus plagued with incompetent engineering like Boeing is?
PREACH
Please reply with a recent example of an Airbus catastrophe where the manufacturer was to blame.
One of the most stupid comments I have read for years.
Amazing! The first group of people working under the plane disappeared so fast! They were thinking “I don’t think anyone see me! I better get out of here before I get hurt!”.
union workers at their finest.
@@TheGardenMG they aren't union there smart one.
no, they don't want to ge in trouble or be held accountable..."not my job"
@@TheGardenMG get an education
@@rabblerousin8981 spotted one.
This looks like the video they will show in training of what NOT to do. It took fire over 9 minutes to get there. If this was near a fuel tank, the outcome may have been very different.
Am I the only one thinking "Let's go ahead and extinguish an already self extinguished electrical fire... with water..." Someone really wanted to pop their cherry and fire a high power hose into a jet plane.
Simply amazing the lack of any firefighting equipment in the immediate vacinity of the aircraft.
As a retired Fire Chief w 40 years I respectfully disagree, there's probably 15 fire extinguishers including dry chemical and CO2 extinguishers in close proximity to the aircraft.. the problem was the ZERO action by all the employees who saw there was a fire, what a joke and so much for that required annual fire extinguisher training
and it was clearly an electrical fire, someone just needed to flip the damn switch off
@@msavAC60 as an aircraft mechanic for this airline at this airport, you are sadly mistaken. And we use Halon.
@@msavAC60 I didn't see any in close proximity but maybe they were out of frame. In AF we had a chemical extinguisher within 10 feet of the nose when on the ramp. However, point taken, and I agree, it was more likely due to inaction by the ramp workers.
And once again seeing inconsiderate, selfish passengers ignoring all instructions and endangering the lives of others by grabbing their peronal belongings while evacuating. This slows down the entire process! They should be found and each one charged with the federal crime of failing to obey the instructions of the flight crew.
Maybe think for 1 second before getting all worked up! The plane was at the stand. What do people do the minute the plane stops? Get up and grab their stuff! You suggest they delay the evacuation by putting the hand luggage back up or maybe leave it in the aisles??
Amazing lack of action. The one thing I noticed was no direction of evacuating passengers on the over wing exit. Two blokes just started wandering off towards the wing end instead of down the slide. If you fell off the wing the drop to the ground would result in some injury at the very least.
"bring us the bridge !!! "
"did they fill their CBP paper ? "
I am glad it is not in the Sky at this time
It couldn’t happen in the sky because that’s exactly where they plug-in power to the plane and I’ll bet the pilot didn’t turn off the generator on the plane when they plugged it in
Don't let it scare you. I flew in last night to Seattle. Zero issues except for the people in Seattle. Ick.
Because someone can plug shit into the plane there...
This would happened during the flight. It was the ground power supply cord that attached to the aircraft to supply power when at the gate.
Could have been as bad as Value Jet.
The fact that they did not allow everyone off this flight immediately is inexcusable, delta someone must have been fired for this what a joke
So I'm done ground crew work at an airport before back in the eighties and what surprises me there's not a fire extinguisher available for the ground crew we always had one stationed at the gate
None of these drones walking around have a fire extinguisher nearby?!
you forgot to say it was an airbus
It was mentioned (Airbus A321 NEO) in the introduction text. Airbus don't make Lithium batteries which seem to be a source of unexplained fires rather than faulty power cables.
@@mrmullett1067 hay i am just trying to help Boeing over here haha
...and it was Seattle ground crew. They live in the same city as Boeing. They don't know much about Airbus
@@herceg6772 the ground is not trained for airbus or Boeing is trained for both sides so it should’ve known exactly what to do for airbus.
@@doka777-3 hope so. Just one of my thoughts. Could be pilots, could be the plane which I doubt, could be bad cable, could be ground crew.
Had to be electrical based on location
Arcing of course, wonder if the lithium batteries had a runaway......
Chinese wire been used now. Cheap crap 💩
It looks like when they popped the switch for the GPU, it ignited. There's a kill switch right on the panel.
@@andrewandres148 some ground personnal was too incompetent to properly handle their equipment. smh
Yep, it’s the charging port. that’s right where they plug-in shore power to the plane. Apparently the pilot didn’t turn off the power. At Alaska air we had to signal the pilot.
so because of pilot error, the plane's electronics are cooked? you would think they would have designed in an automatic transfer switch when switching between power supplies
@@gregh7457 lol , I made my own transfer switch on my motorhome , to cut out the inverter when the generator is started ...
Many people dragging their luggage with them. A stark contrast to the orderly exit of Japanese passengers. Lucky this fire was not catastrophic.
The fact that the fire trucks came when the fire stoped
No nearby fire extinguisher and nobody cares except of watching! The safety plan should be reviewed!
Nothing like a relaxing smoke after a hard day.
Funny how the media states "Delta plane" and not "Delta Airbus", the way they do every issue involving a Boeing plane.
Almost 2 minutes after the first site of that fire by an employee did a passenger step off that plane. That's f****** ridiculous
Not even a single fire extinguisher on the tarmac!
lost passengers all over the place, no guidance. A disaster of management
This will be set to Benny hill theme and be a hit
Hahahaha!!!!!!!
If this had been a more serious emergency, everyone would be dead
For an unexpected fire, Delta did a good job getting the people out. 90 seconds, by the book. There was someone at the bottom of the slides to direct people. Ground people directing people where to go. Ground equipment moved very quickly out of the way. Fire department arriving within 3 to 4 minutes from a dead start without time to prepare. Considering the flight crew did not have time to brief passengers, they did an outstanding job. The most panic I saw was in the comment section.
90 seconds? fire starts at 9.38 and fire crew arrives at 9.45
To an untrained eye, and apparently one who failed to notice this video is sped up x2. Whoever uploaded this apparently knows that most UA-cam viewers have the attention span of a gnat. So, keeping that in mind...
This was not handled well at all.... with the exception that the flight crew, once they actually released and opened the evacuation doors and activated the slides, the passengers do seem to be evacuating at a "calm" pace - although the crew should have told them to leave their items behind and just get off the plane. The first few passengers off walk off out of view, so we don't know if they were directed to do so by someone, or just took it upon themselves to wander off. The majority of the passengers, once on the tarmac pretty much just stand around gawking, and **no one was there directing them** as to where they needed to go. BTW, the flight crew DOES brief passengers - at the beginning of every single flight. Unfortunately no one ever listens to them or reads the cards in the pocket right in front of them. The flight crew had plenty of time to say, "Leave your items and please calmly exit the plane at all open emergency exits".
As for the fire itself... this is absolute ineptitude (to someone who knows what SHOULD have happened). The minute the ground plug arched and lit up, the ground crew should have... 1) Contacted the pilot to let him/her know their nose was on fire at the ground plug connection, 2) walked over to the gate and gotten the CO2 extinguisher and either pulled the ground plug out, or hit the emergency off and then extinguished the fire. The ground crew did not do anything to extinguish the fire. Instead they stood around and did nothing - some even just walked away. This is a result of horribly bad training.
Third... the Fire brigade response time. Absolutely deplorable. It was almost 10 minutes before the first truck even rolled up, and by then the fire was already out. I won't begin to assume what could have possibly delayed their response time, considering large airports like this have fire response trucks specifically staged to handle parking/gate fires. It should only take 2-3 minutes to respond.