Do I REGRET Buying It? - AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2023
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I've waited several months and then decided to finally buy the 7950X3D. After having tested it, do I regret buying it? Yes and no, there's two things I discovered while testing this Ryzen processor. First of all, it's not as good as many of you expect it to be, and secondly - it has an incredible ace up its sleeve.
So yes, there's criticism as well as praise for today's CPU. Meet the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D. Essentially a regular 7950X equipped with AMD's 3D V-Cache along with some fine tuning, to which we'll get in a minute. - Наука та технологія
You have no idea how many hours/days went into this video... I hope it shows. 😪🥱😴
A huge thank you goes out to 🏆#Georgios over at 🏆#quippr for getting a hold on this CPU for my review. #NotSponsored 🤗🤩
Have you bought any 7000X3D CPU yet? 🤔😅
Got the 7950X3D in regards to my use of many virtual machines, and I couldn't be happier with it.
can you tell me what your temps are like and what cooling you use? (if AIO, how many mm rads pls) ? thanks
@@sacamentobob if yours is high thats normal. under full load it goes up to 90c for me. amd says its fine
Does VMware runs better on 7950x3d then intel i9? Thanks.
@@sacamentobob just an alpenföhn broken 4 max with 8 total case fans. about 87deg on full load, mostly running under normal load with 55 deg
I would go for the X3D chips any day for the thermals alone
Fair point! :D
X3D chips don't run any cooler. On the contrary. Although they do have a lower TDP, they run warmer than their counterparts due to the 3d vcache impairing heat transfer. I have the 7950x3d and have had the 7950x using the quantum velocity 2 block. Same idle temps yet higher gaming temps lasso'ed to the ccd cache.
@@robskikko yup they run lowkey stupid hot controllable but still insane
@@robskikkonah linus benchmarks don't line up with what you say it showed it was indeed cooler than the regular 7950x
Amazing test Nicolas! I appreciate all your work. Also you show every physical product before doing benchmarks, in that way we know that you truly have the products and not faking benchmarks.
Nice that you called him out on faking in the past, agree he should not fake anymore and to use real products if possible.
Kinda disagree, some game run better on CCD0 and some game run better on CCD1 with higher clock speed, this cpu is such a gem for 1pc setup for streaming. Process Lasso is your friend!
Thanks for your personal feedback! :)
Hi. What's Process Lasso?
@@filipealves6602it's an app similar to task manager. It permanently set your games on certain core so that it runs faster running on all core slow it down.
Great app but AMD should have fix this issue before it was released on window update
7950x3d would make a good workstation horse. I like that drop in power consumption thus overall temp. Idle is bad but can be tolerated...just. It is good to know the umpfh is there if needed when compiling things. It is good to know there is much of extra memory close to cpu in case some day it can be used in every day loads. Or does it already?
Did you deploy that "Graphically Ghallenged" popularized "23% Faster" hack? How current firmware and mobo updates affects overall behavior? Is there (meaningful)changes after 6 months?
Love Your Videos They are very informative for email marketers like myself that have built my own custom rig I upgraded from 5950X because I started doing some small video editing and needed a better cpu however I regret going to the 7950X as for someone with no experience on how to optimize the settings requires an extremely loud pc unfortunately my rig has to sit on my desk due to short cable management however am looking into the 7950X3D just to save on the crazy power draw and noise as always purchased my X3D using your link
Nice video, I liked the 720p benches. 13600k looks good !
Thank you! :)
I kinda was hoping for a simultaneous test of a game and workload benchmark to prevent GPU bottleneck 😛
What about the Ryzen 7 7800X3D vs the Ryzen 9 7950X3D?
Why don't I see any reviews that point out the DDR5 Long boot times on AM5?
would a number crunching game like 'planet coaster' simulation game do better with a CPU with the most cores and threads as possible? what are the biggest hardware needs for a game like that? im leaning towards AMD AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X and AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX. coming from a GTX1080ti and i7,7700k. next gen from both camps look like big jumps, really leaning towards waiting and getting whats coming with pcie gen 5 to get a REAL jump, not sure i can wait.
late but I know something like city skylines 2 wants as many cores and threads as physically possible
i believe u should change ram to g skill 6000mhz cl30 and use buildzoids secondary timings, Great job doing this much testing tho Nicolas, however my 7950x with UV -30 and tweaked ram gets 185fps average and 147minimum At FHD using 4090. Ram for basic zen 4 matters a lot. Before trident z kit i had crucial 4800mhz cl40 i thought ryzen doesnt care about it and went for cheapest kit, and i was so wrong. Far cry 6 had average 148fps using that kit, compared to 185fps using trident z. SO RAM IS A MUST!
Thank you!
Is it true that you have to individually optimize the 7950x3d for every game in order to make the most out of the 7950x3d or can you just use it straight out of the box without having to do anything to get the best performance? I just want a cpu where you can use it right away without having to do anything
Id like to know as well. The 7800x3D is hand down the best gaming CPU rn but it struggles in production applications that require more cores and higher frequencies. The 7950x3D seems like a well rounded CPU for both gaming and production workloads but it requires tinkering to get an optimal experience which im not all that into tbch
Yes and no. For the most part, Microsoft and AMD did a good job patching and fixing previous software-related issues with the new X3D parts.
So I no longer experienced any issues and with most motherboards you don't need to dial in and configure any special settings related to the Cache part. :)
I own a 7950x3D rn, been using it since July. It's a great CPU but there are some situations where you want to use process lasso. I honestly would recommend just using process lasso instead of relying on the driver. I've had lots of weird experiences with the driver. Process Lasso is pretty much set and forget. I put Prefer Frequency in the bios and manually add games to the V-Cache CCD. Have great experience doing this. Standard applications will try to use Frequency CCD and games get the V-Cache die.
I was worried it would be more annoying than it is but it really only takes a good 30 seconds to add a game to the process lasso list and then you're done for that game. 85% of games in my experience like V-Cache. It could be annoying if you play a ton of different games I suppose. In some of the games I play (Kerbal Space Program) I saw a massive 3x performance increase in certain scenarios with the V-Cache CCD and that for me makes it worth the small fuss.
Doesn't seem to work correctly at all in Linux... unless you manually force CPU affinity per app, bit it works fine in windows, especially with process lasso, im also using CAS30 ram, seems to be much more performant. I also overclocked mine with a -30mv, +200 PBO, 85C temp cap, now easily passes the default clock speeds hitting closer to 5.8+ ghz in some instances.
Could you do a test between these cpus, showing how they behave with several things running at the same time? for example, doing a live, keeping a server on or a vm and playing some games? I would like to know who loses more efficiency or performance after a long time connected performing several tasks.
I like how detailed it is and how the new chips area almost the same is more of luck of silicon lottery since how the gap is most game is so having the x3d jump in like 2 or 3 of the game pass there other chip by a lot I can say that chip is a beast and a lot better next to the non-x3D version
I would always put in older cpus like a 3770k and like 2 years newer. There are a ton of people still with older system that have no idea what gains are to be made by updating just the mb/cpu/ram. is it 20 percent 50 percent 200 percet gain? They will never know as you do not have a old cpu baseline. Its not that hard to put one of the older popular ones in.
I go for 7950x and i played with undervolting.. you can really have good balance.. if you lucky with silicon lottery and if you know what you doing.. but for average user who put thing down and don't think about it... go for 7950x3D.. it's amazing chip, better than everything else,, even we wanted something more better.. So for people who want to get now 7950x or 7950x3D having big dilemma.. to buy one of those.. or wait half of the year or ... idk how long for new gen chips thinking.. what if amd in next gen give us true X3D chip which will blow away everything else.. and this gen they just tested it ( this is kinda alpha/beta version of what can be ) .. So .. spending it now or wait.. oh AMD why you always doing this lol
I just went today with the 7950X hoping i made the right choice, its going to be my heavy battlecruiser for studying my Renewable energies master, my workstation, and my Destroyer of worlds for gaming. I truly hope i made the right choice going with the non X3D version after studying several resources and finding the power management in the X is way better than in the X3D .....
@@edwardsteinjolt3720 I need productivity, i rarely play games.. i do but is not my main thing.. but with this cpu i can do it and still having amazing productivity.. I personaly think it needs maybe 1-2 more releases X3D chips to get full potential.. I already planing to exchange this cpu.. in 2 gens or maybe when they release new socket.. I will see in that time if i will continue to be with AMD, if 'beast lake' be what they say it will be ( 80 Cores 96 Threads 16 P-cores 64 E-cores ) and AMD don't offer similar or even better one.. then i will change .. so that's 2026 or maybe 2027.. who knows.. till then i think this one will serve me well because next gen will be just 15-20% improvements.. same cores.. and next one after that maybe another 20-25% so that will be 50% faster than 7950x... We will see.. Till now i am so happy with this CPU, it's amazing..
what video card is he using? I lost that part
3:26 He's using an Asus RTX 3090 TUF Gaming OC, those were sold in like 4000 dollars back in 2022 for mining rigs.
I wish that you guys would include the 12700k on these charts
are the ryzen 9 7950x3d problems are fixed?
With the latest BIOS releases I didn't encounter any issues whatsoever. Works like a charm. :)
@@Nicolas11x12English oke thank you uf than i can buy my new pc with an amd ryzen 9 7950x3D
the 7050x3d is an amazing chip. As a VR enthusiast I can say that the V-Cache is a game changer for VR performance. I wont be using any CPUs in the future that don't have V-Cache. Sure, the 7950x3d take a little hit in both gaming and productivity but it is not by much compared to its sister CPUs
Wdym it takes a hit? Benchmark are better for almost every game by a good margin .
@@TheGhost-sl5gh basically the 7800x3d performs a little better in gaming and the 7950x does slightly better in productivity work tasks compared to the 7950x3d. It isnt by much though
I got it, idk in comparison to those, but it works great. In compiling source code its very quick, better than intel i9. For games, it runs :), I paired it with an OC version of 7800 XT and it runs all games in 4k, min 60 FPS ( med- high) which was my goal.
Seems like the 7900x is the sweet spot. Especially considering the price difference
50$ difference
i just went with the 7950X non 3D, seemed like the upper hand to me without the weird power management of the X3D, i hope i made the right choice
@@edwardsteinjolt3720 I ended up getting the 7800x3d my pc is mainly for gaming. So far so good.
💯 7950x3d= 725 euro vs 7900x= 485 euro... thats 245 euro extra... or 150% more expensive
Great analysis mate. If the only benefit of the 7950X3D is that it has a few more fps for gaming, then the 7950X is the way to go. I primarily need a powerful CPU for 3D architectural visualization and I'm sure the 7950X is still gonna run Cyberpunk 2077 incredibly at ultra settings with path tracing. I have an RTX4080 and game on an ultra short throw projector that is capped at 60fps so I personally don't need a crazy high fps count. For majority of the work related benchmarks, the 7950X scored better and it has a larger 4.5MHz processor. Having said all that, wouldn't you say the 7950X is the better option for me?
Just bought a 7900x3d for 280$ flash sell super happy
It's good enough. Considering that I come from 10700K (still very capable chip btw), I will see the difference. I actually plan to underclock the chip a tiny bit so that I can get 5.5 GHz sustained.
I wonder why there's no benchmark data for the Ryzen 7 7800X3D. It would be a great comparison between the 3D line-up in both gaming and multi-threaded workloads to better show the value of the higher-end product. 😅 Nonetheless, the graphs are presented greatly; it's clean and conclusive of the 7950X3D's improvements over time. Moreover, it's still going to be a GPU bottleneck using a 4090 in 4K because newer titles are becoming more graphically intensive due to lack of optimization (Cyberpunk).
Thank you for your kind words! :)
I'll be buying and testing the 7800X3D for testing in the near future.
The 3090 is a bottle neck on ultra settings 1080P still, the CPU destroys the regular version in gaming and destroys the 13900K with a 4090
I love my 7950x3d. It took some tweaking but the performance you I gained from doing so was insane. I would not recommend the chip to anyone who doesnt like to tinker however
I just bought the 7950x3d for my first time building. What tinkering would you recommend I do with it?
@@cornshub5187 Undervolt is a good start. Normally 50mV you can safely do it. But a good BIOS update on a solid board is available these days. And it does a pretty good job managing power. Search "Fix Ryzen 7000 Series High CPU Temperatures" on UA-cam for some beginner help. Keep in mind if you ran a older CPU you may need to do a fresh OS install. It's hard to explain but this CPU alters Windows and it's not compatible with other CPUs.
@@cornshub5187 I would like to know what tinkering there needs to be done too!
Do all your cores run at the same, or close to the same speeds?
More volts, always more volts ;) @@filipealves6602
I have a 7950x3d and a 5800x3d in my two main systems and i love my 7950x3d. You can either use the 3dvcache ccd or higher frequency ccd which ever a game runs better on or use both for productivity applications. And i did have a 5950x then upgraded to the 5800x3d while i was very impressed with gaming performance i missed the multicore performance 16 cores gave me. So the 7950x3d gave me both and it been great no issues at all. I have my 7950x3d paired with a 4090 and its hooked to a lg oled tv. I would still like to tinker with a 13900k its also a great cpu i just liked the efficiency of the x3d parts and the longevity of the am5 socket.
Me and u have the same upgrade path and I loved this comment, I went from. 3900x to 5950x to 5800x3d now I want to go for the 7950x3d with a 4090 and this comment helped me choice between 7800x3d or 7950x3d thank you I’m choosing the 7950x3d cuz I do agree I miss the multi-threaded performance from the 5950. So that’s why I’ll go to the 7950x3d thanks again 🙏🏿
@@frxxdqm8980 Yeah i totally believe a 12 year old who makes minecraft videos has had these upgrades.
720p might show the performance difference on gaming but No real world representation therefor is utterly useless comparisons. 1080p would mostly represent it's performance numbers. Since, people still do a lot of 1080p gaming (primarily e-sports + steamers). In terms of value - x3d wins it. Performance, Power use and Thermals take it to the top spot for me.
I didn’t want a Frankenstein chip… I went with 7950x.
I bought the X3d specially for World of Warcraft. Games like that one see a very significant uplift in framerates compared to every other CPU on the market. +30-40% avg framerates depending on the scene. No one benchmarks those types of games due to the varying nature. running 240hz 1440p monitor in WoW gives some very stunning and smooth visuals. Hard to go back.
Do all your cores run at the same, or close to the same speeds?
@poco9964 If you're asking about core speeds it WoW, I'm using process lasso to bind WoW to the cache CCD and it maxes out 1 core typically at 5.25 GHZ. In general usage most of the cache cores will run at 5.25 and the non-cache 5.75. I think if you're playing am mmo than vcache is a no-brainer. Outside of mmos, it doesn't make too much of a difference compared to intels offerings and amd's other high end cpus
Lmao. A top of the line CPU to run a 20 year old game. Talk about having extra $$$
@joshgts9675 If you've ever played it, nowadays it requires a serious cpu to get the awesome visuals at 240hz. Troll some more.
People regret buying 7950X3D but they still use it.
7900x is sweeeeeeeet ... price is 66% of the 7950x3d
comaparing a single CPU is problematic as other CPU's of the same model may run differently. 1 core peaking at 5.7 is bad when the others are in teh 4 mark. The other cpu every core was at 5.5 and is clearly a CPU that could be pushed with an overclock. I would go as far as to say you have a bad 7950x3d, or if this is the case on them all.... Stay the hell away from them. However, I doubt it is the latter.
So, there is basically 0 sense to go for Intel in these last generations - be it productivity or gaming. Ryzen requires cheaper memory (it needs just 6000 30cl for full power vs intel's 7200), requires cheaper cooling solution (much lower tdp) , drains much less power AND guaranteed platform lifespan is so much better. All this while going neck-to-neck in real word use-case performance. I won't even mention 7800x3D that basically equals to i9 and 7950X3D in gaming for half the price, can be cooled by stock cooler and needs even cheaper memory because big l3 cache compensates for the latency. Well done AMD!
720p test in 2023?
I regret it. I got a defective one out of the box lol.
LOL. When bad luck strikes... Have you gotten a replacement?
Looks like the new i9 is faster. I wanted AMD though.
They screwed themselves by not going all out on Vcache for all cores.
Está claro que o te paga Intel para que hagas estos vídeos, o estás enamorado de ellos. Porque poner en 4º lugar en la prueba de multinúcleo al 7950X3D lo deja bien claro, cuando está más que demostrado y hay una infinidad de videos de pruebas que dicen lo contrario. O cuando quieres que Intel escale posiciones, no sabes como hacerlo pero consigues dejarlo en 2º lugar como en: 5:51 para alucinar.....
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i have 7900x,SMT OFF,pbo 105watt tdp(145watt),negative 20 all cores and with a 3080 12gb, i have better results at all benchmarks from your 7950x-3090.Try same configuration and let us know your results.I think that 7950x3d is worst than 7900x.i have the same memory kit,and over 10 1st places at 3dmark with this and other pcs.With gb board 30300 cinebench -20 all cores and 29400 at 145watt.I think that your board its not so good
What motherboard are you using?
I’m running 7950x3d on asus crosshair x670e it’s magic 🪄 love it