every returning type is the least useful theyve ever been in pikmin 4 and its because even though every type is in the game you are only allowed three at a time Very few elemental gates. No poison gates. No gas pipes. No electrical wire or light bulbs. No flukeweeds. No bamboo gates. No clipboards. No dams. No clogs. No crystals and few crystal enemies. Oatchi knocks down high up items. the only type that gets the focus it deserves is ice pikmin i hope pikmin 5 does this better
For purple farming, you can skip down to the. Final floor, get 10 purples, flower them, leave, go back into the cave's entrance, and repeat in ONE day with hardly any loss of time
@scribbleslol1566 I suppose. I just played through as normal until I got the Onion and used the purples I collected. Backtracking just to make later areas a bit easier felt unnecessary, especially since none of the enemies are that challenging to need purples. Most of the time, a rush from Oatchi and whatever Pikmin you have is more than enough.
@scribbleslol1566 You're assuming I didnt? I also 100% the game, but people have different playstyles. Not everybody is going to take 20 whole minutes of doing tedious and repetitive farming that's highly unnecessary to 100% the game, much less finish it.
15:10 Whites and purples never appear in Battle Enemies maps. The only map where both they and an onion exist is Beastly Cavern's Collect Treasure, which has separate red and blue onions. Also, Purples are vital when they appear in Collect Treasure. Thirsty Desert Remix is essentially entirely built around them. Every second counts and the opportunity cost of having 10 pikmin carry heavy fruit/corpses instead of using one purple is prohibitive. You cannot finish in time to get platinum ranks without using purples. Their combat sucks in 3, but their carrying capacity alone makes them very useful, especially since they exclusively appear in levels designed to utilize it. I'd personally put them in B-ish for Pikmin 3 usefulness, but certainly not as low as F, unless if you count their limited availability against them.
Theu are very useful for challenges, and like you said, necessary for one. However, their low rating is a combination of the lack of presence in the main story and that they're really limited usage for challenges. The reason I gave white pikmin a higher score for 3 is because they're more prevalent. Even if you can't use them in battle enemies, they appear more frequently and with more usefulness across more challenge maps than purples. I do see where you're coming from, though, just a bit of clarification on my end.
I do, I'll do a test recording and see if my computer can handle it. My gaming computer broke a while back, so I've been making all these videos with a laptop. If the laptop can do it, I'll cover it, I love both minecraft and pikmin.
Ok so in your other ranking video I think I commented something else so I'm gonna give both my rankings! For the games it's Pikmin 1, Hey Pikmin, Pikmin 2, Pikmin 3, Pikmin 4 and then Pikmin 3 Deluxe! Feel free to disagree but 1 suffers from 1st game syndrome, Hey although not the best is decent and not as clunky as 1, 2 is a step up from 1 in almost every way, Pikmin 3 is amazing no doubt about it, 4 is great but smaller things like auto lock on not being otional make me not enjoy it as much! And finally Deluxe is the most well rounded game, has a lot of replay value and it's only real problem is that it's to easy. Atleast the challange stages are actually hard unlike 4! For the Pikmin (In 4 specifically) it goes Wings, Rocks, Yellows, Whites, Reds, Blues, Glows, Purples and the mesaia of Pikmin 4 Ice. And Bulbmin would be right under glows as they are more charming but barley less useful and put Puffmin above the 3 crew as they are just used SOOOO little in this game. then Yellows are overall good but the lack of things like the electric wires and other hazards brings them down. Whites are good but Poison doesn't show up much until they stick it in your face in Primordial Thicket but speed is useful. Reds are well rounded but end up in the middle due to others being less used and others more used. Blues not because they are necisarily REALLy godd just there's a shit to of water in this game. Glows for obvious reasons but you can't bring them out of caves which balances them out. Purples are arguabley more overpowered because of their new AOE attack. And finally Ice pikmin have potential for INsta kill on most enemies and overall have tthe most utility and are bitter sparys but you can mass produce them!
if only 5 types from pikmin 4 were to return in pikmin 5 i think it would have to be these 5 Red, Yellow, Blue, Winged, and Ice red yellow and blue have to be in every game winged and ice pikmin have the most potential of all the remaining types
i was actually just writing a comment saying this@@GeloSceron but i do think winged pikmin are underused in pikmin 4 i could be wrong but im pretty sure you can beat the game without ever using a winged pikmin and i think you can 100% the game without ever using white pikmin if winged pikmin were used at their full potential they could probably be the best type pikmin 4 doesnt have the pully things and the bamboo gates for winged pikmin i think there are some treasures that require winged pikmin but you can beat the game without them correct me if im wrong
@@realteamwall yeah, you could beat the games without wings. They just make the game easier, and are likely optional. And since whites are found in serene shores, you could just buy the sniff saver.
I agree almost, without the preference. Winged pikmin aren't used too much, only in some caves and primordial thicket(usually). But other than that, I agree they are useful.
But nonetheless, they're also found late game in 3, and only uses really to get items,flight, and the scorned maestro. Sometimes the plasm wraith. I'd would've said a or c tier.
Yeah, but just because they can fly over hazards, such as an angry pikmin-sized crocodile(lol), I would still rank them A, C, or the middle of S and A tier due to their late uses in both games, and practically only used to 100% the game in 3, and in 4, you likely would want to complete everything before the final cave. But regardless they are useful when are used, but they aren't as good as glow pikmin.
every returning type is the least useful theyve ever been in pikmin 4 and its because even though every type is in the game you are only allowed three at a time
Very few elemental gates. No poison gates. No gas pipes.
No electrical wire or light bulbs.
No flukeweeds. No bamboo gates. No clipboards.
No dams. No clogs.
No crystals and few crystal enemies.
Oatchi knocks down high up items.
the only type that gets the focus it deserves is ice pikmin
i hope pikmin 5 does this better
For purple farming, you can skip down to the. Final floor, get 10 purples, flower them, leave, go back into the cave's entrance, and repeat in ONE day with hardly any loss of time
That's so tedious though
@@VarietyTelevision the ability to steamroll any large enemy is more than worth it
Plus it takes like 20 minutes
@scribbleslol1566 I suppose. I just played through as normal until I got the Onion and used the purples I collected. Backtracking just to make later areas a bit easier felt unnecessary, especially since none of the enemies are that challenging to need purples. Most of the time, a rush from Oatchi and whatever Pikmin you have is more than enough.
@@VarietyTelevision I 100% the game... no wonder why our opinions are different
@scribbleslol1566 You're assuming I didnt? I also 100% the game, but people have different playstyles. Not everybody is going to take 20 whole minutes of doing tedious and repetitive farming that's highly unnecessary to 100% the game, much less finish it.
White pikmin in pikmin 2 are definitely an A or B having that speed makes a difference and poison is pretty common
15:10 Whites and purples never appear in Battle Enemies maps. The only map where both they and an onion exist is Beastly Cavern's Collect Treasure, which has separate red and blue onions.
Also, Purples are vital when they appear in Collect Treasure. Thirsty Desert Remix is essentially entirely built around them. Every second counts and the opportunity cost of having 10 pikmin carry heavy fruit/corpses instead of using one purple is prohibitive. You cannot finish in time to get platinum ranks without using purples. Their combat sucks in 3, but their carrying capacity alone makes them very useful, especially since they exclusively appear in levels designed to utilize it.
I'd personally put them in B-ish for Pikmin 3 usefulness, but certainly not as low as F, unless if you count their limited availability against them.
Theu are very useful for challenges, and like you said, necessary for one. However, their low rating is a combination of the lack of presence in the main story and that they're really limited usage for challenges. The reason I gave white pikmin a higher score for 3 is because they're more prevalent. Even if you can't use them in battle enemies, they appear more frequently and with more usefulness across more challenge maps than purples. I do see where you're coming from, though, just a bit of clarification on my end.
@@VarietyTelevision Makes sense, we just have a difference in tiering philosophy.
Also, this may be too much, but have you played minecraft? Pikcraft just released and I wanna see gameplay since I don't have minecraft.
I do, I'll do a test recording and see if my computer can handle it. My gaming computer broke a while back, so I've been making all these videos with a laptop. If the laptop can do it, I'll cover it, I love both minecraft and pikmin.
Ok, thank you!
Uh.....you finished hey pikmin....right?
@@GeloSceron yes?
Ok, because it has the final boss of hey pikmin, the berserk leech hydroe, the water wraith, and the plasm wraith.
Ok so in your other ranking video I think I commented something else so I'm gonna give both my rankings!
For the games it's Pikmin 1, Hey Pikmin, Pikmin 2, Pikmin 3, Pikmin 4 and then Pikmin 3 Deluxe! Feel free to disagree but 1 suffers from 1st game syndrome, Hey although not the best is decent and not as clunky as 1, 2 is a step up from 1 in almost every way, Pikmin 3 is amazing no doubt about it, 4 is great but smaller things like auto lock on not being otional make me not enjoy it as much! And finally Deluxe is the most well rounded game, has a lot of replay value and it's only real problem is that it's to easy. Atleast the challange stages are actually hard unlike 4!
For the Pikmin (In 4 specifically) it goes Wings, Rocks, Yellows, Whites, Reds, Blues, Glows, Purples and the mesaia of Pikmin 4 Ice. And Bulbmin would be right under glows as they are more charming but barley less useful and put Puffmin above the 3 crew as they are just used SOOOO little in this game. then Yellows are overall good but the lack of things like the electric wires and other hazards brings them down. Whites are good but Poison doesn't show up much until they stick it in your face in Primordial Thicket but speed is useful. Reds are well rounded but end up in the middle due to others being less used and others more used. Blues not because they are necisarily REALLy godd just there's a shit to of water in this game. Glows for obvious reasons but you can't bring them out of caves which balances them out. Purples are arguabley more overpowered because of their new AOE attack. And finally Ice pikmin have potential for INsta kill on most enemies and overall have tthe most utility and are bitter sparys but you can mass produce them!
You make some good points here! Thanks for taking the time to write it out
I’m exited to see your opinion
Thank you, hope you like it!!
I surprisingly agree with all the ranking!
@@Bluerobot95-oz8iz Awesome! I'm pretty surprised, I assumed at least 1 would be different.
if only 5 types from pikmin 4 were to return in pikmin 5 i think it would have to be these 5
Red, Yellow, Blue, Winged, and Ice
red yellow and blue have to be in every game
winged and ice pikmin have the most potential of all the remaining types
Yeah, and poison hazard aren't really present, same as not many glass walls
i was actually just writing a comment saying this@@GeloSceron
but i do think winged pikmin are underused in pikmin 4
i could be wrong but im pretty sure you can beat the game without ever using a winged pikmin
and i think you can 100% the game without ever using white pikmin
if winged pikmin were used at their full potential they could probably be the best type
pikmin 4 doesnt have the pully things and the bamboo gates for winged pikmin
i think there are some treasures that require winged pikmin but you can beat the game without them
correct me if im wrong
I think winged and ice would carry on too, makes sense to me.
@@realteamwall yeah, you could beat the games without wings. They just make the game easier, and are likely optional. And since whites are found in serene shores, you could just buy the sniff saver.
I agree almost, without the preference. Winged pikmin aren't used too much, only in some caves and primordial thicket(usually). But other than that, I agree they are useful.
Keep in mind I'm taking Pikmin 3 into account as well, so that bumped them up a bit.
Oh right, forgot about that.
But nonetheless, they're also found late game in 3, and only uses really to get items,flight, and the scorned maestro. Sometimes the plasm wraith. I'd would've said a or c tier.
@gelogelo318 I just can't justify it since they make most obstacles irrelevant, regardless of when you get them.
Yeah, but just because they can fly over hazards, such as an angry pikmin-sized crocodile(lol), I would still rank them A, C, or the middle of S and A tier due to their late uses in both games, and practically only used to 100% the game in 3, and in 4, you likely would want to complete everything before the final cave. But regardless they are useful when are used, but they aren't as good as glow pikmin.