Power Dynamics, Barnum Prophesy and Toxic Religious Positivity | The Atheist Experience 28.13

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  • @siezethebidet
    @siezethebidet 5 місяців тому +15

    Armin's challenges to Islam are a great expansion of this shows impact.

  • @williammeyer214
    @williammeyer214 5 місяців тому +18

    Jim and Armin are a good combination punch. Give’em the ole one-two guys.

  • @user-qg9ck9de8d
    @user-qg9ck9de8d 5 місяців тому +27

    Armin, Thanks for that intro.

  • @Jenniferljeffrey
    @Jenniferljeffrey 5 місяців тому +14

    just bought your book Armin… excited for it to arrive. ❤

  • @johnmccarthy7195
    @johnmccarthy7195 5 місяців тому +21

    I have spent a few hours on UA-cam and I've come to the conclusion that The atheist experience is by far the best program on the internet.

    • @bellywood7688
      @bellywood7688 5 місяців тому +2

      No it's the little obscure animal vids

    • @ninaschust3694
      @ninaschust3694 5 місяців тому

      I agree. And somehow that makes me both happy and a little sad.

    • @fatjesus4528
      @fatjesus4528 5 місяців тому +3

      I certainly watch all the shows, but I think the Line has some better content.

    • @bellywood7688
      @bellywood7688 5 місяців тому +2

      @@fatjesus4528 Jimmy 'in it for tha money' Snow 😆

    • @bellywood7688
      @bellywood7688 5 місяців тому

      @@fatjesus4528 any channel that has Forrest V streaming for 6 hours has got to be good

  • @abdeton1899
    @abdeton1899 5 місяців тому +7

    Love, love when Jim is on and Armin is great, too❤

  • @coachfrankie1112
    @coachfrankie1112 5 місяців тому +3

    Great call from Josef. Love seeing Jim and Armin as hosts. 👏👏👏

  • @Leith_Crowther
    @Leith_Crowther 5 місяців тому +30

    Why is Satan competing for God’s followers?
    Satan: Let me in!
    Me: Why?
    Satan: So I can save you!
    Me: From what?
    Satan: From what God’s going to do to you if you don’t let me in!
    Me: Oh, shit, get in here, dude.

    • @skeptic_al
      @skeptic_al 5 місяців тому +3

      Replace “Satan” with “Jesus” and you have summed up Christianity.

    • @bodricthered
      @bodricthered 5 місяців тому

      Have you heard about this new idea called the trinity?

  • @BeheadedKamikaze
    @BeheadedKamikaze 5 місяців тому +6

    So happy to see Armin hosting this!

  • @taketheatrain5393
    @taketheatrain5393 5 місяців тому +9

    Fantastic intro Armin!

  • @timothyhowson2775
    @timothyhowson2775 5 місяців тому +4

    Great intro Armin. Keep up the good work.

  • @Weekend86
    @Weekend86 5 місяців тому +29

    Satan is competing for God’s followers because they are the only ones who think that Satan actually exists.

    • @mikewiththebluecar
      @mikewiththebluecar 5 місяців тому

      satan isn’t competing for followers, he’s just trying to drag as many people down with him as he can.

  • @jeanhind8198
    @jeanhind8198 5 місяців тому +4

    Ameen sounds like a lovely, intelligent guy who is tired of a living and lie and wants to be true to himself and everyone around him. He also doesn't want to cause hurt to his family by rejecting their religion. Armin gave him some very good advice. It's very likely that his family have already noticed that he isn't particularly religious and wouldn't therefore be too surprised if he came right out and said that he considers himself an athiest now, gently and when the time is right. Its also true, as Jim said, that its fine and simply good manners to "go along" with certain religious aspects of family life, such as funerals, to show you respect their beliefs too..

    • @AmeenAhmed1105
      @AmeenAhmed1105 4 місяці тому +1

      Thank you for your kind words!
      -Ameen

    • @indigopines
      @indigopines 4 місяці тому

      ​@AmeenAhmed1105 Good luck Ameen!! As someone who had to carefully weigh the options too, I have massive respect for you!!

  • @Firebrandatheist
    @Firebrandatheist 5 місяців тому +2

    Love seeing these 2. Love Seeing Mr. Jim Barrows so often.

  • @KevinChantal
    @KevinChantal 5 місяців тому +26

    Why Satan competing for God's followers?
    Because he is realizing that god has to be stopped for the sake of all living creatures in and outside the universe.

    • @Leith_Crowther
      @Leith_Crowther 5 місяців тому +4

      I was tempted to ask, “what are these living creatures outside the universe?” but then I remembered we’re already presupposing God and Satan, so. :P

  • @smochygrice465
    @smochygrice465 5 місяців тому +7

    Fantastic show/content as always AXP ❤❤❤
    Keep up the great work 💪
    Peace Love Empathy From Australia 🇦🇺✌️🤠👍

  • @smochygrice465
    @smochygrice465 5 місяців тому +8

    And congratulations on 411k subscribers AXP ❤

  • @mordreda5662
    @mordreda5662 5 місяців тому +4

    Finally two great hosts!

  • @brotherben4357
    @brotherben4357 5 місяців тому +8

    Armin Navab again! I love this bloke.

  • @gayesthusky2177
    @gayesthusky2177 5 місяців тому +32

    Satan is competing for God’s followers because God doesn’t allow dogs into his “kingdom” and Satan thinks that’s messed up.

    • @bobgarrett7134
      @bobgarrett7134 5 місяців тому

      Not at all. Satan isn't allowed in God's Kingdom because he tried to take over Heaven.

    • @gayesthusky2177
      @gayesthusky2177 5 місяців тому +3

      @@bobgarrett7134 Summon your god or show me a portal to heaven.

    • @ookekklibarianbornagain6708
      @ookekklibarianbornagain6708 5 місяців тому +9

      @@gayesthusky2177 Young Bobby has had his humour surgically removed.

    • @joshsheridan9511
      @joshsheridan9511 5 місяців тому +5

      ​@@bobgarrett7134did you deliberately misunderstand op?

    • @joshsheridan9511
      @joshsheridan9511 5 місяців тому +1

      @@gayesthusky2177 I kinda like Bobbles, his mixture of religious fantasy and sci fi can be quite entertaining

  • @Leith_Crowther
    @Leith_Crowther 5 місяців тому +19

    I expect that the cishet dudes on the show are aware that it means something to us when cishet dudes stand up for sexual and gender minorities, but I figure it never hurts to remind them with nice comments like this one.

    • @theepsteindiaries
      @theepsteindiaries 5 місяців тому

      It's comforting to know that atheists can also believe in something which they cannot prove to be a physical reality ❤

    • @cindyc8335
      @cindyc8335 5 місяців тому

      @@theepsteindiaries I’m curious; do you think transgender people aren’t demonstrably real, or are homosexuals not demonstrably real? 🤔

    • @kowoh
      @kowoh 5 місяців тому +7

      @@theepsteindiarieswhat are you specifically referring to ?

    • @LillyTheLonelySock
      @LillyTheLonelySock 5 місяців тому +7

      ​​@@kowoh I'm guessing he's saying that there's no such thing as a transgender person. Or something along that line. I believe he's claiming that atheists have no evidence if someone assigned male at birth truly feels they are female. If I'm wrong, perhaps he can clear up my misunderstanding.

    • @cambriaofthevastoceans6721
      @cambriaofthevastoceans6721 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@theepsteindiaries oh honey, just because you aren't aware of the consensus on the evidence spanning multiple fields of study, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
      Merely that you are colossally ignorant. 😘

  • @Halimo-j9h
    @Halimo-j9h 5 місяців тому +2

    I don't tell family my members that I'm an atheist because i know they will disown me. It's not worth losing relationships over my non belief. I neither pretend to pray nor fast. When they ask why i don't practice my faith, i tell them to mind their business.

    • @indigopines
      @indigopines 4 місяці тому

      I don't tell my family because I know it will hurt their feelings. I act as myself and try not to lie--I just decided I didn't have to "come out of the closet" unless it's worthwhile. Until then, I'll just keep vibing.
      I'm shaking your hand across the internet. 🤝

  • @ladyaj7784
    @ladyaj7784 5 місяців тому +6

    I was SO UPSET that I couldn't watch live!!

  • @joshsheridan9511
    @joshsheridan9511 5 місяців тому +12

    A typical Jim Castleberry thread
    Jim "wthout god there can be no objective moral duties "
    Me " give me an example of an objective moral duty and explain why it is objective "
    Jim "you are lying to claim i argue that there are objective moral duties "
    So according to Jim he's not arguing for the things in his argument

    • @holgerlubotzki3469
      @holgerlubotzki3469 5 місяців тому +6

      That's Jim Cackleberry all over.

    • @BlarglemanTheSkeptic2
      @BlarglemanTheSkeptic2 5 місяців тому +4

      And the irony, being that his real name appears on a "Register" in Oklahoma, and he is also likely protecting such people who attacked him as a child, (because they are Christians... maybe? 🤷🏻‍♂️)

    • @amtlpaul
      @amtlpaul 5 місяців тому +3

      Jim alias Edith just keeps accusing, dodging and deflecting.

  • @phoderlein
    @phoderlein 4 місяці тому

    Always love you guys and your discussions!❤

  • @gayesthusky2177
    @gayesthusky2177 5 місяців тому +2

    What’s really strange: I was listening to this episode while driving home from work and I had to suddenly stop at a red light as Armin was giving his stop-light analogy, and it happened at a stop light that gave me problems that morning. So eat that apologists.

  • @andretasse1607
    @andretasse1607 5 місяців тому +2

    Hi Algo,
    Thanks for the show.
    Bye. Rithm

  • @barrythomson899
    @barrythomson899 5 місяців тому +3

    Many thanks, Arminian.

  • @EastSide-qc5oy
    @EastSide-qc5oy 5 місяців тому +10

    Armin could be a model

    • @craiganders3424
      @craiganders3424 5 місяців тому +2

      Of what??

    • @nolenetriska7271
      @nolenetriska7271 5 місяців тому +2

      Of fashion, of course, but he's probably being a model of logic, a model of fair argument, a model of rational discourse and a model of kindness and respect to worry about looking as handsome as he does.

    • @craiganders3424
      @craiganders3424 5 місяців тому +1

      @nolenetriska7271 well to each their own. He wouldn't float my boat, lol. Taste is subjective, however.

    • @digbycrankshaft7572
      @digbycrankshaft7572 5 місяців тому

      ​@@craiganders3424I'm sure you wouldn't float his either 😅😅

    • @craiganders3424
      @craiganders3424 5 місяців тому

      @@digbycrankshaft7572 I sure in hell hope not lol😃

  • @queuecee
    @queuecee 5 місяців тому +8

    There's a great video from Dan McClellan arguing that the original Gospels didn't have any accounts of Jesus resurrecting and witnessed by his disciples and others.
    The earliest Mark ends where the women find the empty tomb and rush to go tell others. Passages after that were added later to make it clear that Jesus resurrected.

    • @queuecee
      @queuecee 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@AtheistReligionIsCancer Why do you endorse cannibalism as long as you don't cook it? And why do you accept pedo as long as the offender is a leader in the church?
      Can't you just condemn it?

    • @ookekklibarianbornagain6708
      @ookekklibarianbornagain6708 5 місяців тому +5

      @@AtheistReligionIsCancer Reported for Hate speech or graphic violence.

    • @holgerlubotzki3469
      @holgerlubotzki3469 5 місяців тому +2

      @@AtheistReligionIsCancer According to the bible, the tribal war g0d of Abraham fully condones incest, particularly between father and daughter.

    • @holgerlubotzki3469
      @holgerlubotzki3469 5 місяців тому +5

      @@AtheistReligionIsCancer Oh yeah! Cannibalism was also condoned in the bible as in people boiling and eating their own babies. Nice!

  • @mirandarensberger6919
    @mirandarensberger6919 5 місяців тому +10

    Whichever eternal being collects the most souls in the scavenger hunt wins the door prize-- a brand new Keurig for the lobby of their eternal abode. Yahweh and Satan think they're competing for the lead, but don't rule out the craftiness of Loki.

    • @indigopines
      @indigopines 4 місяці тому

      This!! This is the best one!! 😂

  • @seraeirian2
    @seraeirian2 5 місяців тому +7

    Jim is more right than he knows, or maybe he does know.
    Since chickens are birds and birds ARE dinosaurs, everything does indeed taste like dinosaur. 🦕

    • @queuecee
      @queuecee 5 місяців тому +4

      That was the joke.

  • @l-_-lShadowCat
    @l-_-lShadowCat 4 місяці тому

    Bjorn: “Nothing can exist alone”
    Well, it can in the case that universe contains only one thing. That thing would certainly be quite lonesome.

  • @TheSnoeedog
    @TheSnoeedog 5 місяців тому +2

    After a three-peat of the stipulation, "I want a specific date and time, people involved and event," the guy's response begins with, "By the end of the year...."
    *YOU ARE NOT EQUIPPED FOR THIS CALL, JASON*

  • @niblick616
    @niblick616 5 місяців тому +1

    Debate 101: First define all the terms in your 'argument', including what you mean by 'god', 'consciousness', 'create', 'potential timeless state', 'logical sense', 'alogical state', 'nowhere', 'alone', etc etc etc.

  • @rcblazer
    @rcblazer 5 місяців тому +6

    Satan is competing for God's followers because he knows God is leading his followers the wrong way.

  • @mike.repucci
    @mike.repucci 5 місяців тому +3

    Seems like Bjorn is trying to ascribing consciousness to the vacuum energy. 1:14:41

  • @TheNihonjin
    @TheNihonjin 5 місяців тому +7

    Satan is competing for souls because God once said "Whos got more soul than me?"
    Now God, Satan, and James Brown are all trying to be the true King of Soul. (OOOWWW!)

  • @skeptic_al
    @skeptic_al 5 місяців тому +3

    FWIW, running red lights is legal in Minnesota under specific circumstances. If you’re riding a motorcycle at an automated traffic signal at night or in a low traffic situation you’re allowed to run the light because the light will never change without a car there too.

  • @Frances864
    @Frances864 5 місяців тому +2

    An enjoyable video

  • @LogicAndReason2025
    @LogicAndReason2025 5 місяців тому +1

    The only advice I can give to people "coming out" to others, is to start as a Unitarian Agnostic. Stress the virtue finding common ground among all believers and non-believers. Also, stress the virtue of humility in knowledge. Say you feel arrogant claiming to know things which you don't really know. Point out the virtues of avoiding cherry-picking and confirmation-bias. Doubt is honest. Certainty is dishonest.

  • @amtlpaul
    @amtlpaul 5 місяців тому +6

    Happy April Fool's Day to the trollspambots posting here to routinely reduce their religion to mindless spammy absurdity, bereft of meaning and morals!

  • @chakuseki
    @chakuseki 5 місяців тому +1

    The last call is great. Really brings up a curious kind caller but shows the gap in critical thinking skills. I hope the caller reads up and calls back!

  • @greglisk9408
    @greglisk9408 5 місяців тому +2

    There is no objection to incest where there is no harm. If a pair of siblings were separated at birth, meet 20 years later snd fall in love before discovering that they are siblings, there can be no legitimate objection.

  • @TheSnoeedog
    @TheSnoeedog 5 місяців тому +2

    Easter is my favourite holiday of the year. It's the only time when you can go up to the self-righteous martyrs in your life and say, "Jesus Christ, will you come down off your fucking cross already!!?!?"

  • @robbyroba
    @robbyroba 5 місяців тому +6

    Satan is competing with God because they made a bet that if either of them collected the most souls, they get to switch places for a millennium.

    • @ookekklibarianbornagain6708
      @ookekklibarianbornagain6708 5 місяців тому +2

      @@AtheistReligionIsCancer Reported for Hate speech or graphic violence.

    • @Commander_ZiN
      @Commander_ZiN 5 місяців тому +1

      The joke is, last time nobody noticed when they swapped :P

    • @furuleetsaingo
      @furuleetsaingo 5 місяців тому +1

      Plus thing is they're actually pbly more of the same being than not

    • @Commander_ZiN
      @Commander_ZiN 5 місяців тому

      @@AtheistReligionIsCancer ok go into your boss's face tomorrow and scream obscenities at him, exercise your free speech there.
      Choose your actions, choose your consequences.
      Also instead of asking dictators how about we ask almost every democracy except the US?
      Your opinions are outdated and out voted.

  • @JoshTheHeretic
    @JoshTheHeretic 5 місяців тому +1

    I’ve listened to TAE for 15 years. I’ll listen to any episode that Armin is not on. Have a great day!

  • @slushroom
    @slushroom 5 місяців тому

    Armin, is there a audio version of your book that is narrated by you? The version on Audble narrated by Dave Richards is too fast and frankly, does in injustice to the value of your text.

  • @ladyaj7784
    @ladyaj7784 5 місяців тому +5

    Satan is competing for God's followers because the social media algorithm for Imaginary Influencers is brutal!

    • @queuecee
      @queuecee 5 місяців тому

      What is atheist religion?

    • @joshsheridan9511
      @joshsheridan9511 5 місяців тому

      ​@@AtheistReligionIsCancerDenmark is ashamed of you

  • @t800fantasm2
    @t800fantasm2 5 місяців тому +9

    (The day of the crucifixion)
    Roman: (Points at a large 'X' shaped wood frame)
    Roman: "There you go, that one's yours."
    Jesus : "Wait. What?"
    Jesus : "I thought it was going to be a very tall 't' shape."
    Roman: "We don't do it that way. Our nails are soft iron. They're not going to support the weight of the cross beam, let alone your weight"
    Jesus : "I'm not that heavy!"
    Roman: "A real carpenter would have known that. Besides, we're not climbing up a ladder with a squirmy prisoner. Now, let me nail your hands on."
    Jesus : "But, but..."
    Jesus : " I already ordered the T-shirts made with a 't' shape!"
    Roman: "Who cares, no one's going to remember the details accurately anyway!"

    • @t800fantasm2
      @t800fantasm2 5 місяців тому +4

      @@AtheismPoisonsEverything "atheist religion"
      Atheism is not a religion...
      Grow up....

    • @ottonormalverbrauch3794
      @ottonormalverbrauch3794 5 місяців тому +4

      ​@@AtheismPoisonsEverythingCan you explain to this 62 year long atheist where atheism resembles a religion or where it has religious treats? Probably all you know about atheism wasn't really acquired in a curious, critical and skeptical manner of researching?

    • @ookekklibarianbornagain6708
      @ookekklibarianbornagain6708 5 місяців тому

      @@t800fantasm2 HeywoodYabloome is just another sock-puppet for Danish troll, doyoufeel...thatyoulackcri6760 , muslimsrememberapostacyday556 .
      I just report all it's posts as Hate speech🍻

    • @thomaswigfield7623
      @thomaswigfield7623 5 місяців тому

      It is explained time and again to this particular troll that atheism is not a religion, but it is always fun to rehash old jokes.
      If atheism is a religion baldness is a hairstyle.
      If atheism is a religion not collecting stamps is a hobby.
      If atheism is a religion “off” is a television channel.
      My personal favourite:-
      If atheism is a religion celibacy is a sex position.

    • @thomaswigfield7623
      @thomaswigfield7623 5 місяців тому +2

      @@AtheismPoisonsEverything
      According to muslimsrememberapostacy, you are an imposter,
      Should we ask NEPy?

  • @LogicAndReason2025
    @LogicAndReason2025 5 місяців тому +2

    For those posting satirical comments, note that not all people grasp satire, so you may want to give hints like "just kidding" or "as Borat would say". Fanaticism is often hard to distinguish from humor.

  • @cursedkennedy7605
    @cursedkennedy7605 5 місяців тому +3

    God... Son I'm going to create milk I'll be right back.......😅

  • @duanejohnson9798
    @duanejohnson9798 5 місяців тому +1

    I would ask my mom to help explain the passages in the Quran/Bible that I'm having trouble with. Worked for me. 😊.

  • @IsBeingHello
    @IsBeingHello 5 місяців тому

    Bruh that Norwegian call hurt my brain… lol

  • @madddog7
    @madddog7 5 місяців тому +24

    That god only has 144,000 souls, Satan has all the rest. No contest here.

    • @skeptic_al
      @skeptic_al 5 місяців тому +4

      Lord Neguru on Vanusia exists in the 47th realm of consciousness, which is a defeater of Satan and God. Done and done.

    • @fasillimerick7394
      @fasillimerick7394 5 місяців тому

      That image is fantastic.

    • @nsf001-3
      @nsf001-3 5 місяців тому +1

      I collected more souls in Painkiller

    • @BrokeTheSeal
      @BrokeTheSeal 5 місяців тому +2

      And don’t forget Satan is punishing those souls that didn’t make it into heaven by god’s judgment, so he’s basically just a warden at a prison enforcing the rules of the celestial government. Essentially doing the will of god.

    • @mikewiththebluecar
      @mikewiththebluecar 5 місяців тому

      @@BrokeTheSealyou obviously don’t know anything about the Bible or what it says will take place. Revelation 20 says that satan will be thrown into the lake of fire along with death and Hades which is referring to the wicked people who are in Hades. satan isn’t running anything in hell, that’s a misconception derived by people who don’t know anything about the Bible. satan will be just as much of a victim as the rest of the wicked people who are thrown in with him.
      ”And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.“
      ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20‬:‭10‬-‭15‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

  • @TL-rb4vs
    @TL-rb4vs 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the time stamps! The hosts need to come up with a better system of questioning the callers, such that (1) the two hosts don't talk over each other and (2) they take turns more respectfully instead of cutting in, while also allowing the caller to respond to EACH hosts' questions before the other host takes over with MORE questions. The way they handled Josef - MI, for example, was an absolute mess and difficult to listen to. Kudos to the caller for keeping his cool the entire time.

  • @MrCanis4
    @MrCanis4 5 місяців тому +1

    Inside your In-group “don't pick up sticks” but outside your In-group. “do whatever you want”.

  • @joshsheridan9511
    @joshsheridan9511 5 місяців тому +4

    Satan is competing for our souls, because even gods need food

  • @caribbeanman3379
    @caribbeanman3379 5 місяців тому +6

    What about the power disparity that exists in patriarchal marriage cultures where the husband is viewed as the head of the family and is often the sole income earner? Wouldn't that make sexual relationships in such marriages unethical since there is a power disparity between the man and the woman, with the woman often being financially dependent on the man and conditioned to always submit to him?

    • @johnmccarthy7195
      @johnmccarthy7195 5 місяців тому +2

      You met the wrong woman.

    • @joshsheridan9511
      @joshsheridan9511 5 місяців тому

      No

    • @caribbeanman3379
      @caribbeanman3379 5 місяців тому

      @@joshsheridan9511 How and why no?

    • @caribbeanman3379
      @caribbeanman3379 5 місяців тому

      @@johnmccarthy7195 You're making zero sense.

    • @joshsheridan9511
      @joshsheridan9511 5 місяців тому

      ​@@caribbeanman3379because unless a woman is bring forced into having sex then it's called consensual
      Plus the fact most men accept no as no even when the woman is their wife

  • @queuecee
    @queuecee 5 місяців тому +5

    Satan is competing for God's followers because he lost all his followers to some fiddler in a fiddling contest in Georgia.😱

    • @Tuna_Man2323
      @Tuna_Man2323 5 місяців тому +2

      What's up Casey? Seriously, though, I think Jim should watch your videos to learn how to pronounce your name, since you win so many of these😄

    • @queuecee
      @queuecee 5 місяців тому +4

      ​@Jebus_Anti-theist 😂 I was listening to the show live, and that threw me off.
      And I've called in once when he and JMike were cohosting. Not that I expected him to remember that.

    • @Tuna_Man2323
      @Tuna_Man2323 5 місяців тому +2

      @@queuecee To be fair, your handle is missing the second u and e. Maybe he thought it was the Spanish word. Congrats for winning again😊

    • @queuecee
      @queuecee 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Tuna_Man2323 I originally had @queuecee, but the trolls kept on reporting it, so I had to make an alt.

  • @cky727
    @cky727 5 місяців тому +1

    Jason should tell God presidents don't begin their terms until January.

  • @pooppoop3595
    @pooppoop3595 5 місяців тому +2

    Wow I love the point from Lucy. I totally forgot about toxic positivity and how it is so prevalent in the christian right culture

  • @somepublic
    @somepublic 5 місяців тому +12

    I think Andrew just got uninvited from the next family reunion.

    • @Anita-ej3rp
      @Anita-ej3rp 5 місяців тому +3

      Oh, I doubt that.

    • @JPPan-hq6le
      @JPPan-hq6le 5 місяців тому +2

      if Armin's standard for a relationship is informed consent amongst adults, then adult relatives should be fine. the power imbalance concept is really independent of adults. his "potential of harm" model fails because who gets to judge what that potential is? using the potential for harm concept would prevent most LGBT+ relationships from happening. I think Armin is special pleading because incest crosses his line but LBGT+ relationships don't because of "reasons". would Armin have an opinion about adults getting involved in romantic relationship with a person with clinical depression? substance abuse? felony conviction? presence of breast cancer gene? downs syndrome? there's a lot of potential for harmful relationship with people. are people who fit in those categories undeserving of a romantic relationship because of higher likelihood of unhealthy relationship?

    • @sleepingwyvern
      @sleepingwyvern 5 місяців тому

      ​@@JPPan-hq6leyes andrew failed to press him on that matter or he might have been muted as you know armin is a shanghool afterall.

    • @indigopines
      @indigopines 4 місяці тому

      ​@@JPPan-hq6leTbh I think the people in the relationship need to decide what the potential for harm is. And, partially, their loved ones. It's a self-inflicted harm, and they would either need to recognize that, or have it explained to them, but after that, it's up to them to decide if they would like to continue hurting themself.
      Of course, if someone's an abuser, that's more complicated. But educating the victim and supporting them will lead to them leaving when they can.

    • @indigopines
      @indigopines 4 місяці тому

      ​@@JPPan-hq6leI just wanted to say this topic is genuinely interesting to me and I enjoy debating it, I hope I don't come off as rude 😊

  • @Father_Veteran_Gamer_Artist
    @Father_Veteran_Gamer_Artist 5 місяців тому +1

    I don't wanna hear about reducing harm or not causing harm from people who cause harm every day when they eat the bodies of innocent animals. Hypocrites.

  • @alangibson8222
    @alangibson8222 5 місяців тому +4

    Satan is competing for gods followers because he's trying to put together the ultimate dodgeball team.

    • @chuckhunter77
      @chuckhunter77 5 місяців тому +2

      My money is on the team full of people who aren't prevented from pleasuring themselves. Stronger arms.

    • @holgerlubotzki3469
      @holgerlubotzki3469 5 місяців тому +1

      @@chuckhunter77 I reckon you are trying to jerk our gherkins!

    • @madddog7
      @madddog7 5 місяців тому

      .. dodging xianity

  • @pooppoop3595
    @pooppoop3595 5 місяців тому +1

    Jim is an underrated host

  • @cyberjism
    @cyberjism 5 місяців тому +1

    Jim!!!!!!!!

  • @domacleod
    @domacleod 5 місяців тому +2

    10:10 If a god were to exist and its existence followed the same physics we know of, then as no chemical reaction (such as those found in every living organism) can be sustained without consuming /some/ source of energy/matter, yes, souls would probably be food for that creature, in one way or another - either directly consumed, or the energy that those souls spend adulating the god is somehow harnessed and consumed instead. That would mean that if a god existed and that god created humans, then earth is basically just a farm, probably one among many. Different souls probably taste different too - maybe he made aliens elsewhere and they give him a sweet taste while we give him a spicy taste and a different alien species gives him a salty taste so he just harvests souls based on what kind of flavor he's craving at the time.
    That's the premise I'm going with, anyway. Tryign to write a mythology fantasy book where every god is real and they just made humans as a food source. The energy people expend praying is absorbed by that respective god. Millions of souls spending energy to pray would probably provide enough energy for a god to keep existing for a day. The gods also die out when people stop worshipping them. Dying of hunger, basically. So a whole bunch died out and a few are close to starving. Zeus and Odin are barely holding on with the energy people use to praise stories that involve them even if they're not literally praying.
    Religion is an amazing source of fantasy inspiration.

    • @Spiritof_76
      @Spiritof_76 5 місяців тому +1

      "To Serve Man! It's a cookbook!"

  • @trindinwright6374
    @trindinwright6374 5 місяців тому

    I'm looking forward to being able to call in soon. I have not read the Quran, but your view of the OT is so far off it is no wonder your Overton window cannot see the truth of it. Unfortunately, I've been working a lot of Saturdays.

  • @blehbleh8552
    @blehbleh8552 2 місяці тому

    Genuinely curious here. I understand that the power dynamics between child and parent are bad for a incest relationship, but how are the power dynamics between siblings worse than the ones between none incest relationship?

  • @donquijotedelamancha3529
    @donquijotedelamancha3529 5 місяців тому

    I've never understood why some people find it so hard to decide whether or not to come out as gay, atheist, or anything. I mean, you do what you want when you want for whatever reason. People need to do some introspection and just analyze the repercussions of any decision they make in their life. You don't owe anyone any explanation but yourself.

    • @toforgetisagem8145
      @toforgetisagem8145 5 місяців тому +1

      People need to be very careful about coming out in some places in the world. They get killed.
      Even in a place where people are supposed to be less harsh, young gay people can find themselves dumped at the petrol station homeless because their family wont accept them.

    • @indigopines
      @indigopines 4 місяці тому

      As above said. Most people figure out if they have a "controversial" identity when they're teenagers/young adults. That's about the same time that a parent/guardian will feel justified disowning you.
      And my goodness, the stats on hate killings all over the world are much too high.

  • @mikewiththebluecar
    @mikewiththebluecar 5 місяців тому

    1:59:19 Ok you can point to the creator of a car ONLY because you know it was created by a man. You can’t point to a creator of life because you don’t know who created it. Just because you don’t know who created it doesn’t automatically mean it didn’t have a creator. So by this logic if we found an alien spaceship but there were no aliens around we must assume it had no creator because we have no way of knowing it was created by someone? Therefore your “rational” conclusion is that the spaceship was created by a natural process? Is that your “rational” reasoning process?

  • @mikewiththebluecar
    @mikewiththebluecar 5 місяців тому

    If you’re going to talk about a verse that you claim says you can beat your wife why not quote the actual verse or at least cite it? What verse are you referring to?

  • @Father_Veteran_Gamer_Artist
    @Father_Veteran_Gamer_Artist 5 місяців тому +5

    I love Akmed and Peter Griffin. Two of the best hosts.

  • @covertgreen
    @covertgreen 5 місяців тому +1

    given enough time the universe exists, therefore it always existed.

  • @LessThanLucid
    @LessThanLucid 5 місяців тому +3

    God and Satan are competing for souls? I'm convinced they're both just pranking sapient life for the most ridiculous followers!

  • @Drak_Thedp
    @Drak_Thedp 5 місяців тому

    I suppose, the Norwegian caller meant the quantum uncertainty and the watcher's paradox. Like there should've been some consciousness to resolve undefined quantum states in the Universe.

  • @Nocturnalux
    @Nocturnalux 5 місяців тому +2

    Satan is competing for God’s followers because of the algorithm.

  • @FrankCostanza82
    @FrankCostanza82 5 місяців тому +1

    Satan is competing for God's followers because he wants to be the next big "sinfluencer"

  • @johnsperry9494
    @johnsperry9494 5 місяців тому +2

    As Jesus is God, (John 10:30), Jesus exists from the beginning of time until the end of time, according to the Bible. Out of all that time he had one bad week-end. Not really all that much suffering, huh?

    • @nsf001-3
      @nsf001-3 5 місяців тому

      Meanwhile I actually exist and suffer needlessly for 33 years and not a single person cares

  • @kathyc3401
    @kathyc3401 5 місяців тому

    answer Two collectors after the same rare piece. They will do anything to get it.

  • @toforgetisagem8145
    @toforgetisagem8145 5 місяців тому +1

    Strange how this follower of Hijab talks of genetic injury of children, yet only a few moslems argue against cousin marriage that is a significant cause of genetic damaged for their children.

  • @tomyossarian7681
    @tomyossarian7681 5 місяців тому

    Yes, incest causes no harm. Robert Heinlen came to that conclusion long, long time ago.

  • @chuckgaydos5387
    @chuckgaydos5387 5 місяців тому

    Human souls are the Pokémon cards of the afterlife.

  • @holgerlubotzki3469
    @holgerlubotzki3469 5 місяців тому +8

    No... Could it be?
    Firsties?

  • @Wiggimus
    @Wiggimus 5 місяців тому +3

    Satan wants God's followers because he makes original content. All God does is repost.

  • @jameslarimer9211
    @jameslarimer9211 5 місяців тому +5

    Satan is competing for God’s followers because all his shit gets unfairly demonetized and he needs all the viewers he can get.

  • @christianblevins1870
    @christianblevins1870 5 місяців тому +2

    Souls are snacks for god the devil is trying to save the souls so that they can help him in his never ending fight to take down god

  • @jennamars80
    @jennamars80 5 місяців тому

    Answer to the question: Because human souls are like Pokémon- you have to collect them all.

  • @EyesLikeEggs
    @EyesLikeEggs 5 місяців тому +2

    How do I ask for less Jim Barrows without hurting feelings?

    • @craiganders3424
      @craiganders3424 5 місяців тому +1

      How do I ask for less Armin?

    • @nsf001-3
      @nsf001-3 5 місяців тому

      They're two of the most tolerable of the current host lineup

  • @af2313
    @af2313 5 місяців тому +2

    I also think that the gay community are perhaps better at getting screened for STI’s, therefore seemingly more positive results?

    • @queuecee
      @queuecee 5 місяців тому

      It doesn't matter as it's not a relevant point. Are women no longer going to have pregnancy considering how dangerous pregnancy is? Would heterosexual people decide to become homosexual if we caused more STDs? What if religion was associated with lowered intelligence and education, should it be abolished?

    • @Spiritof_76
      @Spiritof_76 5 місяців тому

      @@queuecee No. No. Yes, definitely.

  • @anthonysmith8800
    @anthonysmith8800 5 місяців тому +1

    I have a man crush on Armin 😍

  • @caiornp
    @caiornp 5 місяців тому

    Jim needs to let others speak, it's not only his show.

  • @mikewiththebluecar
    @mikewiththebluecar 5 місяців тому

    1:45:08 Ok your not scrutinizing your own position with the same reasoning your imposing on the callers position. You said that life is the result of chemicals, but no one has ever witnessed life deriving from chemicals. Scientists have tried for decades to create life from chemicals and failed in every single attempt. Nobody has ever witnessed life deriving from chemicals, so your statement that life is derived from chemicals requires just as much faith as my statement that God created life, except your position excludes the necessity of intelligence. Now most chemical reactions don’t typically take very long to occur they usually occur pretty quick and despite all the knowledge modern scientists possess they still can’t figure it out. So I think you need to apply the same scrutiny to your own position that you impose on the Christian position on this particular topic in order to maintain a fair discussion on the subject. Intelligent design is a very strong piece of evidence supporting the existence of God. It isn’t proof and I don’t think we’ll ever have definitive proof of God’s existence until Judgement Day but we don’t have definitive proof of evolution or the age of the earth and yet atheists have no problem believing in these unproven theories. Now if you’d like to discuss these topics, I’d be happy to discuss them further because I can prove that neither of these topics disprove the existence of God or the validity of the scriptures.

  • @ronitsrivastava377
    @ronitsrivastava377 5 місяців тому

    That external source of support can be other people and your own thinking. That external thing needn't be God, right?

  • @benpeacock
    @benpeacock 5 місяців тому +2

    Why is Satan competing for gods followers?
    Satan: do you see what they are wearing? So bland- its obvious that they all need a makeover!

    • @LessThanLucid
      @LessThanLucid 5 місяців тому +4

      "It's 'Satín', actually." --Wreck It Ralph

    • @ookekklibarianbornagain6708
      @ookekklibarianbornagain6708 5 місяців тому +2

      @@AtheistReligionIsCancer Reported for Hate speech or graphic violence.

  • @PhilipLeitch
    @PhilipLeitch 5 місяців тому

    RE incest I suspect that definitions are important. The dynamic that Armin discussed is a familial relationship and not genetic.
    Two genetic siblings who had no relationship growing up who ensure they can't have children appears to be acceptable given his argument and I suspect this is reasonable and yet this wasn't made clear due to lack of definitions.

  • @taurculh69
    @taurculh69 5 місяців тому +1

    It's getting so annoying with Andrew's weird call in arguments now that when I recognize the voice I start skipping to the end just to hear the resolution.

  • @ryugrieger7244
    @ryugrieger7244 5 місяців тому +1

    symbiosis doesn't need a god.

    • @queuecee
      @queuecee 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@AtheistReligionIsCancer what a hypocrite. You think pedo is ok as long as they are a leader in their church or ordained ministers.🤢

    • @ookekklibarianbornagain6708
      @ookekklibarianbornagain6708 5 місяців тому +2

      @@AtheistReligionIsCancer Reported for Hate speech or graphic violence.

  • @Anita-ej3rp
    @Anita-ej3rp 5 місяців тому +1

    Oh, Andrew, grow up.