iPhone 14 Pro vs Pro Cinema Camera Video Comparison
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Be honest how many did you get wrong? were you surprised??
I got 4 wrong. I wasn't really surprised because the iPhone has a sharper image and the FX3 has a smoother image.
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I was actually watching on a desktop monitor so it was ease, but still got 2 wrong
Easier way to tell the difference is the stabilization. Iphone 14 was on auto and fx3 was off. Only got 2 wrong
Watched it on a big screen in 4k and for the first time in these comparison some shots were actually super hard, especially the close ups. I think you were mainly able to spot differences because over sharpens a bit but the image quality is just absurd at this point. No more need for anyone (non-professional) to buy anything apart from a phone. Even in bad lighting this thing can somewhat hold up. It's insane...
This video is just a 10 minute example of how important color grading is
what's colour grading?
@@kxmyona The process of taking the video from the camera, and modifying the colors to make it look better. That's how you end up with matched cameras, balanced skin tones, unique looks, etc.
😂 yes. I caught on to it quickly n Thats the only reason I was able to tell the difference
Some of the shots were just too fast for me to tell - but I would say I got about 65% right. Camera still has a nice buttery feel. Where - like others have said - phone cameras tend to be hyper sharp and blow out the highlights more frequently. But really - dang hard to tell sometimes and we cameras nerds are the only ones who care about this stuff. Love your content and all that you've put out over the last month. Awesome!
It's the sharpening on smartphones that gives it away. It's how they're able to compete with such a small sensor, but it also gives the footage a very distinct look.
Contrast as well. The bokeh used to be an easy giveaway, but with cinematic mode it’s getting a bit more difficult each year. Yet, the oversharpening and a lot of contrast still gives it away most of the time. Especially close ups with skin.
I got quite a few wrong.
But more often than not, the iPhone actually looked sharper (oversharpened).
It did, however, look awesome and using a higher f stop on the FX3 to ensure about equal bokeh was a nice touch to make it even harder.
The new iPhone 14 Pro looks amazing, both for photo and video.
Love it!
I do not understand why Apple is not reducing the over-sharpening. It would look way better without that and would be harder to tell apart!
Great Video! :)
Basically the easiest way to tell, sometimes the dynamic range but the sharpening is the worst part! You're spot on !
Thats because apple never does what users want. They are stubborn bigots
You can adjust they in iOS apps like beast cam
100%
The first video I watched on your channel was iPhone 11 Pro vs DSLR and you helped me a lot since then. Thank you 🙏🏻
This is such an awesome video Matti!!
Such an interesting subject. During the pandemic, I wound up shooting an entire feature film on my LG V40 smartphone. At that time, I had never even owned my own camera, in other words I had no idea what I was doing. But I learned filmmaking from people like you, and Danny Gevirtz, Mark Bone, Brandon Li, Potato Jet, and Gerald Undone, etc etc. It was like school, and my film wound up being an award-winning film. It actually looks great! (At least for someone who had no idea what things like ISO and white balance even meant before starting on the journey) It's kind of astounding to me. But right after I finished that film, (which I learned how to edit in DaVinci Resolve by the way, which almost made my head explode), I wound up buying a Sony a6400, and I have to say that that really opened up my world. I think the experience of interchangeable lenses, and the whole workflow of an actual camera is much different than using your phone. If you're only into the final product, meaning telling the story and just getting it done, then you can definitely just use a phone. But if you're actually into the craft, I think a camera is galaxies beyond what a phone can do. Just for the experience alone. But not for the outcome. Or maybe the outcome a camera can give you is galaxies beyond a phone, but only hardcore filmmakers and cinematographers would even care, because the difference has nothing to do with telling a better story, that is for sure. It's all about perspective. I also have to say that learning the craft can raise your experience of using a phone as well. I had to get myself an ND filter for my phone so I could shoot 24fps, and of course Moment offers all of these lens attachments, I used a really cheap smartphone gimbal for a few shots, so you can have the full filmmaking experience on your phone, but at that point you're almost spending the same amount of money anyway, so why not get a great camera? Actually, one perk of ultimately getting a real camera was that I found that I no longer felt like I needed an expensive phone, because my phone is now just a phone, and a GPS device, something for notes, etc, and I don't really care about the camera in the phone anymore. Although I'm carrying around a used LG V60 as my main phone, and the pictures that I can take with that phone are absolutely amazing, so even cheap phones have great cameras. (Cheap meaning former flagships found on Ebay and Amazon) But I digress. I'm shooting my second film now, mainly with a Panasonic s5, and my a6400, and some cinematographer friends helping me, so I don't have to shoot the whole thing by myself this time as my new film is far more ambitious than NY first, but the fact is I learned how to be a filmmaker on my phone. I have been a solo theater artist for many years, so I know how to tell stories, but filmmaking took that storytelling to an entirely different, and higher level. At least as far as I'm concerned. Anyway, sorry for a million words here. You got me going. ;) Great video as usual, I think this is a really interesting conversation.
That's the exactly kind of perspective that I was looking for. Thanks a lot for the input!
I didn't count but I got maybe 2/3 right and about 1/3 wrong - which is prett spectacular for the iPhone... The FX3 definitely looked nicer overall, you could tell that something like skintones were a lot smoother and more cinema-like.. but non of the clips looked bad in any way. Really impressed. I recently got a iPhone 13 as my first iPhone and I'm really looking forward to testing out the camera!
I probably got about 80% correct , the one key thing I see with the iPhone is the saturation, usually quite high.
Still crazy that you got 20% wrong. The fact that phones can blend in with a pro camera… that’s crazy
The stabilisation from the iPhone footage is actually so good that you can tell the difference on the moving shots. Crazy how iPhone footage looks good nowadays
I got like 7-8 wrong I think. The overly sharp images of the iPhone was the main recognition factor for me and I’m wondering how hard it would be to tell if the sharpness would be reduced in post! The last years I shot a lot on my iPhone 12 and then 13 actually because I started doing a monthly video to sum up what I was up to. And for that the iPhone is just perfect I have to say. Also love it when cycling because it’s so easy to take out while riding and then switching between the lenses etc.
Great comparison!
We shoot my whole channel on iPhone - it's been a game changer! Made the complete transition with iPhone 13 Pro Max now on 14 Pro Max, the efficiency is next level and the quality is now right up there for the majority of the content we're producing.
Matty do a video or tutorial on how you apply colour grades using popular apps on iPhone video.
perfect video. thank you very much
Great video, thanks Matti! I think I got like 85% correct. The footage from iPhone was insane. Could you make a video of the settings you used while filming with iPhone 14 pro? I’d also be interested in the color grading process. 🙏🏻
Me too!
Thank you for sharing it.✌️
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I use my iPhone 14 Pro so supplement shots while shooting for my local church. We make music videos, larger media productions with actors, and we make a LOT of social media content. My iPhone 14 Pro footage can be used along with our larger cinema cameras and with the right editing you can’t tell the difference.
I couldn't keep up with all the cuts, but of the ones I guessed, I probably got 6 or so wrong. But the phone clips I correctly guessed I knew I got correct, because there are still issues with sharpness and skin tones. I think the biggest recent change isn't sensor size or depth of field, but 10 bit color.
Thing is, only us camera nerds really care. I made a recent vlog style video with my several year old phone and even though some of the footage was gross because of bad settings, no one complained because they were engrossed in the story.
It's easy to get them all right if you just look for digital sharpening and compression artefacts lol as far as depth of field and colors go, it's pretty hard, the iphone has gotten pretty darn good over the years. It's still all digital though so a portrait shot at a fake 50mm 1.2 would have the two eyes sharp instead of having one slightly out of focus... Sometimes it's great actually!
I watched it on my tv so it was a little easier to spot the difference 99% of the time! But honestly phones have improved so much! They’re a great B cam for me when needed!
Would like to see you redo the test with a Black Pro Mist on the phone
Tbh they look very similar but you can tell by the skin tones and over sharpening. But they both look really amazing!
Can you recommend which camera to take as a beginner and which lens. I want to start doing photography. You inspired me.
Smartphone camera were good even a few years ago, I remember when Casey put some footage shot on Samsung S7 edge in a vlog that was shot on Canon 80D (obviously). He was surprised on how good the video was, and how easy was to mix it whit the rest of the video; but yeah, now the smartphone cameras are ridiculous good.
Would you ever recommend selling you M50 Mark II with a f1.4 lens in order to buy an iPhone 14 Pro for shooting UA-cam VIDEOS? For me it’s about the depth of focus
I probably got equally as many wrong as I got right. It’s really impressive! There’s some instances where you can tell the sharpness and colors of the iPhone but it’s often too close to tell.
I agreed and I knew that long time ago
I use my iPhone professionally almost 2 years doing underwater videos here in Maui
And editing in final cut
I sell videos in tours for families and couples
Sea scooter tours and non swimmers tours
Switching the cinematic option to wide angle lens
Is impressive what can do
And I knew that a long time
But still not quite there yet
Let’s see what’s next
Thank you very much for bringing this up
God bless you
@Mattihaapoja1- who is this ? Again
Shutter is automatic on iPhones and changes many times during recording makes footages look unrealistic. While on camera you set it to 24 fps 1/50 shutter and get a natural motion. How do you deal with shutter speed on iPhone?
I definitely use my phone, since I broke my pro camera and quite honestly never looked back. Because of how good the dynamic range is, it makes it so much easier to use!
The biggest tell for me with these fast clips is the shutter speed, but that is lost when you are just standing or the camera is moving gently.
That clips were being cycled through way too fast. But anytime the face was in the frame you could see the over sharpening of the iPhone. I got most of those right away. The wider shots were a little bit more tricky. I got most of them right though.
I just came from scuba diving holiday couple weeks ago and I got iphone underwater housing(iPhone 13 Pro) for lone for a dive and I have to say that I always tough that underwater videography is one thing where mobile phones can't get and I really didn't want to like it, but I did, and the quality is quite good.
I always use my phone as my main camera. Can you do some videos for people with Samsung S series phones or recommend a channel for getting better footage?
I want to see this comparison with some more matching efforts. Blur the iPhone footage a tiny bit and sharpen the Sony footage a tad, cause the sharpening was the biggest indicator.
Pretty good job with the colouring though
how do you get so sharp pictures with so less noise in it? Is it a feature from you editing software? My videos are most times blurry or noisy
defo the sharpness shows up the iphone for me on some shots! But still really good and got quite a few wrong haha
Once I figured out the stabilization, it became mush easier to tell the difference.
But why does the iPhone seem more stable? Is it software? Hardware? Or an effect of the different ways you have to hold each. (I assume the camera is a little heavier & more awkward.)
Those accessories are dope
hi can someone answer one thing? which is the following: what camera you used to record this video for youtube?
Was there a mix with cinematic mode vs regular video mode vs ProRes?
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That’s insane! Glad to be living in these times!!!
I'll be honest and say you can always see an iPhone when shooting from shadows to light for they are still to work on how that transition is not as good as a pro camera can do. But with even light shots one get get the clips confused as the iphone will do exceptionally well. Also one more give away difference of the iPhone is the sharpness when it comes to close up details and contrasts, one can clearly see which one is the phone and not the pro camera. Nice Test Matti 😅It's very interesting to evaluate these thing indeed as AI gets better and better🙂🙊
You can distinguish by looking at the skin tone where by the iPhone clips the skin tones are kinda saturated then the fx3 ones are kinda less saturated
I got about 3 wrong, but im also watching on my 27" computer monitor. so that makes it easier. overall some pretty tell tale signs. Saturation, skin - especailly your noses was often a giveaway. (it looks worse and more red on iphone imo.), oversharpening and changes in exposure ect.
You mention the microphone in the sponsor segment, but you din't rate the audio on the phone itself. I use the 13mini to film 90% of my stuff but struggle with talk to camera pieces outside because of the background noise and ambient noise, wind is abysmal most of the time and bluetooth microphones are still a pain to use, there seems to be a buzz in them or they just don't work with the mini at all.
I'd like to see wht you'd do with the audio on the camera compared maybe to the plug ins.
I got 5 wrong. Mainly in the close ups. On wider shots the IPhone really blasts the highlights. I’ve used different IPhones for my channel for 4 years and now I’m finally picking up my first camera!
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Same, I missed two close ups. The over sharpening is very clear.
Video was suprising and watching from Nepal
Hello 👋 to Nepal 😊
Can you tell the difference on a tiny smartphone screen consisting of fast edits, great comparison LOL.
Were these filmed with the stock camera app on the iPhone or is there a better app for doing more manual shooting like on a mirrorless full frame camera? Looking forward to the community's help here! Thanks
Yeah there are some. Have a look at Filmic Pro for video and first light for photo. Think that will fit your needs. Isn't free but still cheaper than the FX3 I guess :D
Cinema p3 pro camera app can do the job
I decided to blow this up on the big screen and pause several of the scenes. The detail in the mid-tones and shadows to me looks more natural with the Sony and either over sharpened or not there at all on the iPhone. When I played this on my phone I couldn't tell
Also Maddie. I'm not sure if it was intentional but I feel like some of those frames were edited to fool us. In so many of the Sony shots the shadows were nice and soft and others they were like blacked right out. Surprisingly I saw detail in those shots still
I watched it in my mbp16 so it was easy.. i was wrong for 2 shots.. particularly in the alley shot where there was little to no glare..
Iphone has improved dramatically when you compare it to iphone 11
I will be honest , I love my DLSR, but found it hard, but not impossible to tell the difference in this video. The biggest question to me now, is it worth the price difference? not in my opinion unless you have as specific need! actually was looking to upgrade my old A7R3 this year, but I am thinking twice and may focus more on getting the most out my iPhone 14 pro. may still sell the DSLR and bank the money for a while.
Geez… I think I got one, maybe two, right. Lol. My whole channel has been filmed with my iPhone. Every time I find myself looking at investing in some camera I see a video like this, lol.
How did you grade these iPhone videos??? Releasing any LUTs???
I wasn't able to keep track with how fast it went. I definitely got some wrong. However, if the image was overly sharp, it was obvious that it was an iPhone, but some of the iPhone shots blended in more smoothly with the Sony. Interesting!
Well, got every one of these right. iPhone just has too much sharpening dude and Sony has better background separation in all clips. Every single time
I got a lot wrong. Part of it is how the footage is edited. I did feel the FX3 did a better job with background blur and transitions. Still, it's close, especially if you're good at editing.
I am using POCO F3 GT to shoot everything, i am not disappointed with it and it can shoot videos in log format as well so the colour grading is also easy 👍
To be fair, RED already did a cinema grade phone... Granted, it was glitchy as hell & ultimately didn't even last long enuf to get any accessories but still... It had some amazing features that even the iphone 14 hasn't figured out yet... I wish they hadn't given up on it... Mines mainly just a paperweight in my studio now lol
The sharpening is giving it away
The shutter speed is a major giveaway
i have a Good Experiance with i phone's Footage and Play with All Settings ...Still have some Problems in Details Especially in Skins and a Little bit Noisy when u Zooming ...Dslr's Never Dies Bro ❤️....i Think I Phone 15 will Be Good Then 14 ..and Thnx For All Advices Matti ❤️❤️❤️
Watching on my phone at 1080p it was very hard to tell/couldn't tell at all. I did notice some "jitter" in the motion on the iPhone footage like the very first clip. But other than that couldn't tell
Got a bunch wrong but some stood out. The shapeness of the iphone gave away. I think if you softened the iphone footage, it would be way harder.
Crazy !
The studio lighting on the iPhone was real hard to tell
the HDR gave it away!
The iPhone seems to have a red tint in skin colour so that helped to point those scenes out.
I just bought a Sony ZV-1 to do off-bike shoots, to augment my array of GoPros and basically replace my Note20. It does so much more than my phone, and can handle the edge cases better.
Can someone tell me what song is used at the beginning of this video?
As I move into more high end sports photography I have almost ditched the iPhone entirely way over possessed compared to my 14 bit raw photos I deal with on a daily.
Too many wrong to admit! I could see more natural DOF in the Sony shots but I was impressed how identical the color grading was. I’ll admit, though, the brevity of the clips made it hard to really see or guess much. Longer samples next time would be great.
Lots of shots that the iPhone looked great on! But not every shot… To me that’s still the difference. There were some shots that were really obviously iPhone. But every shot out of the FX3 looked good.
100%. It’s not consistent and it’s harder to work with
Do it on a bright sunny day would be better then in ideal lighting
Really impressed with the iphone, but its the skin tones that will always give it away for me. But other than that, SUPER impressive!
Wow that was closer than I thought I got quite a few wrong
It was the skin tones and hdr that gave it away
I got wrong maybe around 20%…. Specially the skin tones in closeups… is very clear the differences! But in wider shots its harder to decide! Also if the shot has lots of highlights and shadows… it is harder for the iphone to keep it up with a “pro camera”
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I think I only missed 2 or 3. The biggest thing with the phone is the background blur and bokeh. It just doesn't have as smooth of a look. The phone also has this over sharpened look to some stuff as well. Espically noticeable on skin tons and on the walls.
You're not gonna notice major differences in good lighting conditions. In bad lighting conditions, it would have been a completely different story I think.
You can still see the difference a lot. IPhone tends to be over-sharp, the skin colors look weird and over bright and it has too high contrast.
Of course in some takes, the light is hiding those facts mentioned above and i could not tell every clip correctly with the given speed you took at cutting it, but if you film a full video with iPhone vs a full video with FX3, the difference is huge.
If Apple would reduce in camera sharpening, the difference would be even less noticeable. I love that I can mix in my iPhone footage with my Fx3 footage. Its like having an extra camera with 3 lenses in my pocket.
I use it in certain occasions
That guy model for the video is cute haha, looking very cool 😅
whatever camera you're using to film yourself or whatever grade you have on that footage looks way better that the iPhone and the FX3...IMO
I got 75% right, 15% wrong, and 10% went to fast for me to answer 🤣🤣🤣
Around 7, 8 wrong. When I thought the color rendering was the key differentiator I got wrong, when checked the blur, even then, I got confused. iPhone camera is really great!
There is a giant leap between dedicated cameras and smartphone ones. The look is just different. You can make the smartphone footage look better, but the point is to make good and consistent results with an easy workflow. And with smartphones, that's just not the case. It's still really easy to spot smartphone footage. Ohh and btw. comparing future phones to Arri is a bit far-fetched though :-) There is no consumer camera that is even close to Alexa. I would be happy if a phone camera could look as good as 4k on the old eosR :-)
Matti are you a no case guy? :P Makes me so nervous using these beautiful iPhones without a case haha
I got a few wrong. But I never fx3 confused for iPhone. i.e iPhone can look as good sometimes. But the best images were always cinema camera.
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TBH it was pretty obvious which was which, the closeups were a bit more challenging but in the wide shots the iPhone didn't even come close to the FX3
Only a handful wrong but mainly due to the quick cuts and lack of time to look at the footage
I got only 2 wrong and both were the super close ups. I guess it's still not the time for me to settle for an iPhone.
love to know the cost both
I got 7 wrong ! But I do have to say some of the videos from The phone actually looked better than the quality we think an iPhone should be .. this made me get a few wrong ! Just shows how far the quality has come ! On all photo/video tech
Love the honesty 😊 🙌🏻
@@mattih welcome Matti this video has given me food for thought . On starting a channel and having the tech to do good quality video.. on a budget as limited funds .. thanks for creating inspirational and informative videos !
@mattiHaapoja maybe you should've filmed your talk with the iPhone📱 , just for this one video... let it be your "main camera" (i.e. That would've been a kicker at the end to reveal.) or did you?!
I've got 3 wrongs. I can tell by the sharpness of the phone footage. Lol
I got say I got 4/5 wrongs, the really big give away is the over sharpness of the iPhone footage and the stabilisation wish is much better than the fx3 one.