I miss how darn cool the battle sprites looked in Gen 2, especially the moving ones in Crystal. Some pokemon, like skarmory, don't translate over to 3D well.
@@cyberdarkturtle6971no sir, I don't reckon. You're entitled to thinking that though if you'd like. I've played every mainline Pokémon game and to me and many of my friends, the pokemon and the games lost something special to us when they changed.
Sprites had undeniable power in their presentation, while a 3d model is just *there*. Used to be able to look forward to a new sprite, often with new poses or sometimes shades of color. Sprites have infinitely more personality
Yo seriously. And it made replaying the games as you got older worse because you maybe had one person you knew as a kid who played and was up for trades but by the time I was in HS I knew nobody who played Pokémon. I think the newer games are likely to get rid of trade evolutions entirely after having an item for it in Arceus.
There's actually an even better way to found the beasts. You can go in that little building that connects Ecruteak to Route 38. Stay in front of the door to Route 38, use a Super Repel, put on your bike and save the game. Then go to the Route 38 and wander around the grass until the repel wears off. If the beast didn't appear, just reset the game (A+B+Start+Select) and repeat. You can even turn on the Pokémon March on the radio if it's Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday or Sunday to increase your odds. That's actually one of the methods shiny hunters use to found both Raikou and Entei shiny, and that's the one I used to found them. Also, it is technically possible to get an evolutionary stone in Gold and Silver before Kanto. It's VERY unlikely, but it is possible to obtain one through the Mystery Gift function. Even if you don't have two GBCs around, you can still use it once a day with the Pokémon Stadium 2 if you have it. The thing is that each cart can only give you ONE of the stones (and they can give you no stone at all, it is a 50% chance that depends on the trainer's ID), and even then the odds of getting it is about 0,75%, so good luck with that. If the cart gives you a Max Ether, Max Elixer, Max Revive of Scope Lens, then you will know you can't get an evolutionary through this one though.
This is only relevant in the remakes, but if you want to more easily get the Metal Coat or King's Rock, have a Pokémon with the ability Compound Eyes in the front of your party which doubles the chances of a wild Pokémon holding an item Again, this only applies to the remakes
This takes me back. No one believed me when it happened (as the game has just been released), but the first magnemite I caught had a metal coat on it. Everyone thought I was messing with them and when I showed them I told them I hadn't gotten from anyone yet, I literally had just caught it. None of us knew that they could be caught with hold items, as this was a brand new mechanic at the time.
@@sky_pirate game FAQs was a thing, but we actually enjoy playing a game legitimately. Weird, I know. The mindset of someone who actually likes to learn things on their own rather than be spoon-fed
Yeah, ngl I feel like not having someone to trade is a way bigger limiting factor than getting the item in the end. I'm glad I had my brother to trade with.
5:36 This one is interesting. I occasionally speedrun Crystal with Eevee/Espeon only, my current run involves fishing a Magikarp just like this, giving my Eevee enough X-Items. Didn't know that the friendship kept raising even if the stats have the +6 boost.
I was always told it was in the whirlpool Islands. But I guess that's why I never found Lapras. But I just booted crystal up and I'm on my way right now
Crystal added a way to get a Fire Stone while also removing Vulpix entirely. I was so mad when I found out. Sidenote, Mareep was removed from Crystal too for no reason.
Yeah my neigh our would lord his ampharos over me all the time. My first ever wild caught Magnemite had a Metal Coat though. Didn't even know about Steelix until the same neighbour Freaked Out I had it.
I've been doing some play testing on the most "powerful" teams you can get by/right after the second gym badge in pokemon games. Sort of a "What are the disc 1 nukes of pokemon" series, if you will. So I have a bonus catch/acquisition for you - if you let your mom keep your money, she will occasionally buy things from a predetermined list. Once she hits a specified amount, around 12k saved up, she will buy a moonstone. Now that's easy enough, BUT! Most people forget that mom can hold any money you have on you, not just the littler she can take after battles. So if you bum rush trainers and keep expenses down, you can have a moonstone by the time you're in....Ilex forest? I think bugsy gives you the final push needed to get the stone. This is important because you can get a jigglypuff on the little patch of a route above the first route you can catch mons on, and Wigglytuff in gen 2 can learn the elemental punches from goldenrod while having a 75 special attack stat. She's not exactly a legendary but having full elemental coverage on a mon before the third badge helps out a lot for the middle section of the game, especially with a massive HP score to help switch in and just not need to take so many breaks for healing.
@@sloppysteaks5813 Well, you could get a Slowking right away, even before the second gym. It involves trading, though. The same could be said about Politoed in Crystal version, but that one needs to be at least Lv25 for Poliwag to evolve into Poliwhirl. Trade evolutions will generally speed things up greatly. Especially when it comes to Kadabra, as it already has a very low requirement to evolve (just being Lv16). Alakazam is incredibly overpowered at that point and stays strong throughout the whole game.
Goldenrod in general breaks the game hilariously open. The three elemental punches being available so early as TMs that can be bought with 3k each instead of coins is insane, and return for later use is crazy. Honestly, while I think the later games are indeed easier from my experience, it also mostly seems to be because the later games are way more helpful in pointing you towards the good stuff and give you the stuff that breaks the games wide open directly and encourage you to use them (alongside all the forced stuff like friendship and exp share and stuff). Like, Whitney is infamously horrible for many people's younger selves, but they gift-wrap you a gift poké in the department store. I also know that my dumb kid ass didn't ever visit the department store and got any of the elemental punches which imo trivialize the game if a poké can learn all 3 or even just two. Cuz honestly, when I now go back to older games vs. e.g. B2W2 or USUM, I am baffled how dumb my 6-year old self was vs. how Guzma's fucking Masquerain just takes out a massive, throbbing dil-*censored for youtube guidelines* with me.
0:05 Yes. Yes, I did. 🙂 (Wild Magnemite grinding is _so_ much easier with the TM for Thief… I _still_ have unresolved trauma from seeing “Wild [PKMN] fled!” 😖)
Noob question about your romhack: are you changing the way trade-evolutions like Alakazam and Scizor function, since a romhack is (to my understanding) single-player? EDITED TO INCLUDE THE ANSWER FOR OTHERS: "Yes he is. Graveler, Machoke, Kadabra and Haunter will evolve at lvl36. The other trade while holdingg an item evos work like Evo Stones. Just use Metal coat on Scyther for. Example"
Yes he is. Graveler, Machoke, Kadabra and Haunter will evolve at lvl36. The other trade while holding an item evos work like Evo Stones. Just use Metal coat on Scyther for example
So, would you be changing some of these mechanics in your Crystal ROM, or are we keeping them? As hard as they are to find, I wouldnt mind an alternative way to get the stones, but it is one of the only useful things the call function does in-game. The only thing I would consider changing is to up the Magnemite hold rate of Metal Coat to 5%, which is consistent with later games hold rates for items.
I hope he makes the "hold item and trade" evolves into that item acting like an evolve stone for the pokemon it affects. It's hard to find people to trade with, and it would be even more so with a rom-hack. How do you even trade with a rom-hack?
@zidaryn most ROM Hacks actually have compatability with themselves. Assumed that you'll be using an emulator to trade with one another, which most modern ones have trade functions. I've actually traded with 3 ROM Hacks before, Crystal Clear to Full Color Red to Gold 97 Reforged. Only possible because CC keeps compatability with Gen I, and Full Color is just Gen II graphics while keeping Gen I mechanics the same. Meanwhile, 97's time machine works how Gen II's works. So, even with a different newer Pokédex, the original 151 are still compatible
i have an issue with that 20 min approximation for finding a metal coat with thief because it took me at least 2 hours to find one, but hey thats the game of luck we play i guess 🤷🏻
The legendary dogs one is pretty interesting. I would always walk down and catch Raikou south of the city. I thought that's where it spawned. I didn't know they actually roamed until after you find them once back in the day.
Technically, they're roaming all the time since first first encounter in the burned tower. You just can't see them on the Dex until first encounter. Then, they roam as usual, but you can see where they are at any given time.
I actually did end up using Steelix and a Slowking in my Crystal playthrough quite the while ago. Since I knew of the later gen thing about the hold items for Magnemite and Slowpoke, I checked I think Serebii and funny enough, yes they were thievable in Gen 2😁! So, those two came to my team of unfinished game of Crystal and they indeed are a great wall combination of physical and special defenses, I recommend of trying them out! It's a somewhat big process to get them both, yeah but it's worth it I promise you!!
I don't want to edit my last post, but I want to mention that I've made an oopsie. It was Silver, and not Crystal with these two! Also, anyone interested, the rest of the team are Meganium, Heracross, Ampharos and Crobat😁!
Oh my god, this is exactly how I came across Raikou, at the age of 6, which left me absolutely flabbergasted. I had no idea what that beast was, why it was there and that I basically forced it to spawn. Wild stuff haha
With the Legendary Beasts, I've always been consistent with finding Raikou on Route 44 in the small grassy patch in the (middle of the route by the water) and Entei on Route 45 for my first encounters lol.
Found it easier to go to Ecrutek, pop a repel run down through the grass run back up into ecrutek to reset routes and repeat process always would find one in a couple minutes. Especially if you have pokemarch playing.
It also pretty much loses against all the other gyms except Chuck (sort of, because you can still get messed up from Hypnosis into DynamicPunch) Has trouble vs Morty Can't do much vs Jasmine, can at least hit Steelix for neutral damage but takes a lot from Iron Tail Has super effective moves vs Pryce but also takes a lot from ice types Clair is an alright matchup as long as you don't get paralyzed or die to Dragonair's Ice Beam It's also weak to most if not all of Team Rocket's poison & fire types If you compare that to Cyndaquil or Totodile, despite obviously having access to more team members to help cover weaknesses, it's still noticeable that these starters will do better, simply because Johto by itself, it not kind to grass types.
@@nousername191 To clarify since that area is a bunch of interconnected routes its got a high probability of having at least one dog on that route. Additionally since its a great shortcut between Goldenrod/Ecruteak you are gonna be using that route a lot.
I never made the connection between held items and the evolutionary items! Great find -- I thought Scizor and Steelix were basically this generation's Umbreon/Espeon or Kabuto/Omanyte!
Using the friend ball is redundant, especially for Crobat. You can just using the Zubat in the early game and making sure it doesn't faint will yield enough friendship to be able to evolve right as you get Golbat. Or you can just, turn speed-up on and walk back and forth for 5 minutes to get the friendship. That works too.
Regarding the beasts... go to the Pokédex, check for the location, fly to the location, use a super repel, fight it when it appears... Worked like a charm, if my 15 year old memory serves me correctly 😅
I don't know what it is, but I was doing my living dex in gen 2 in Silver earlier this year and was trying for HOURS to get another metal coat off of wild Magnemites. I was just getting unlucky that whenever one spawned, it wouldn't have it, but on top of that they just weren't spawning for me all that much.
As long as you encouter them once the legendary dogs can be tracked with the Pokegear even in gen 2. Random Fly + Pokegear track + Repel Trick makes it a lot easier to find the dogs.
@j.d.714 Choose an area to fly (I usually fly between Violet and Ecruteak) and check the map. If the roaming Pokemon is nearby, go there. It'll change location once you enter the route. Check the map again. If the Pokemon is in a route nearby, chase him without Fly. It won't change route this time. Lead your party with a Pokemon at level 39 or 40 and use Repel this time (a fast Pokemon with Sleep moves, Mean Look, Block, or some ability like Arena Trap and Shadow Tag is recommended). By doing it, the only pokemon able to appear is the roaming one.
Fun Fact: If you don’t want to grind for a metal coat for steelix in hgss. You can find one in the wild in cliff cave as a rare encounter (accessible after curing amphy in the light house, minimum four badges)
There's a specific trick to the legendary beasts: every time they are on a route, they are in a specific field of grass; field, not patch. If you enter the field they are in, while in it, you have a very high chance to encounter them first (guaranteed with the repel strategy). However, if you run into a different field, or encounter another pokemon first, they will immediately leave the route. So, the trick is to go to routes that only have one patch of grass (like the aforementioned routes) and do your wandering there. And if you can track them, it just becomes a matter of time before they show up at one of the two routes. Their roaming is semi-predictable too, so it's not that hard.
Wow, after all this time I never knew X items can increase friendships. I only knew Irons, Proteins, etc. Niiice. You learn something everyday. Thanks!
Thank you so much for all the Gen 2 content. While it was probably one of the more poorly made generations, it's still my favorite and I appreciate the nostalgia you deliver me :)
I beg to differ. Gen 2 is not one of the greatest pokémon games ever but it amplified the ingame universe in a way Gen 1 didn't. You can learn more about the better side of the game in videos here on yt.
I was born in 2004. I managed to grab pokemon crystal on the 3DS before the E-Shop closed and it's genuinely my favorite game. I have no nostalgia bias: the vibes are simply immaculate.
2% is such a strange number for Magnemite to be holding Metal Coat... Usually the % is 10, 5, or even 1... but 2%? That's so unique and interesting. Also, I very much appreciate you actually having footage of successfully thieving the MC from Magnemite. This type of thing makes me want to play through Crystal again!
There's an error about that step count to level up Pokés with Friendship. It stops working when you gt to 200 or 220 Happiness. It is good just when you catch it, and even if you catch it with Friend Ball (which automatically puts it in 200/220 Happiness, I think) it won't work. The general process is: catch or hatch the Poké; use all 6 vitamins on it; enter a battle with a Magikarp like you did, or just some lv. 2 Poké east of Newbark Town and use 6 X Attacks, Defense, Speed, Special and Accuracy; then go finish the Elite Four (to battle Lance) and Red some times. It will increase the Happiness the fastest. Ah, and the Crobat thing earlier isn't that well implemented, I think. If I remember correctly, the only Berry Tree that gives Green Apricorn is that one you showed between Ecruteak and Mahogany, and at this time in the game you'll need to back track a lot to get a very low level Zubat to out in your team... You know, the only people that will do it are the ones who really like Crobat (despite it being very poor in-game, with attacks like Wing Attack, Sludge Bomb basically). If the Green Apricorn where to be found, like, west of Azalea Town it would give the opportunity to catch a Zubat in that cave over there, or even in Illex Forest. :)
As someone who grew up only playing one version since my brother has the other one, playing Gold as an adult for the first time was a treat. I always knew GS had different sprites per version, but seeing the respective other ones first-hand is really cool. Some mons also end up looking infinitely cooler in one version. I actually never put enough thought into it though, to realize that GS are the only games that do it. In my mind, RB and RS must have done it too, but looking at spriters resource, you are correct! How I never noticed this is beyond me.
For the Legendary Beasts, you don't need to fly. Anytime you change a route, it changes its location. Try one route, if it doesn't work walk towards the other route, and if it doesn't work... just walk back to the other route. Walk in circle, using repels, and you'll quickly get them.
But you still have to trade with someone. That’s the sucky part so technically you can’t get steelix or scizor. You made it sound like you can do it with out trading
Not sure how hard this would be, but maybe instead of having the trade evolutions evolve at level 36 or with the trade held item, you could make extra trade NPCs that offer trades of Pokemon that evolve by trading. For example, In Cianwood city, you could have someone offer to trade Machoke for Machoke, since he wants to get a Machamp to be a better fighting type trainer. In Yellow, someone trades you a Machoke for a Cubone, so there is precedent for getting a trade evolution from an NPC. The game can check if the traded pokemon is of the correct gender for an NPC trade, so maybe you could check if it has king's rock/metal coat, too, and make those trades NPC trades. You might also put more NPC trades on the upper floor of the Pokemon centres. Maybe, instead of putting the starters in the wild on route 27, you could have them as trades in Pokemon Centres. So, to get another starter, you'd instead have to breed your own starter at the daycare, and then trade. Seems more thematic. After the time capsule is available, you could make trades available from "the past", perhaps Kanto starters for hard to catch Gen 1 pokemon like Tauros. (That's the only example I can think of which is available fairly early and easily in Gen 2.)
@@veila0924 Trading may be a stupid gimmick, but it's a core stupid gimmick for the franchise. Trading for version exclusives, gift pokemon, and trade evolutions is part of the flavour of the game. My suggestion is (I think) an easy way to maintain the flavour and make it more convenient given the limitations of emulator play.
@@lacklustermathie Nah. There's a reason the "evolve by level up" feature of the randomizer is so popular. Anyone that plays on emulators, even vanilla runs, will use the randomizer to enable that function. There is literally no point in doing anything else for a romhack meant for single player. What flavour is lost by doing away with trade evolutions when it's just a convoluted way to force interactivity with NPCs that only serve that function?
2:33 with that information.. I really would like to meet that very lucky trainer who came across that king rock holding a slowpoke... since its unheard of LMAO
It’s interesting that you say that about the roaming legends, but Tip on that, if you enter a gate that’s between a city & a route, then they will not move to another route.
Regarding friendship: newborn Pokémon always have 120 points so, by capturing a Ditto and breed with Eevee you can get both Espeon and Umbreon before level 16 with any of the said methods. The same applies to Chansey.
For the people that wanna know why he is telling you about this strat of encountering Entei and Raikou (and Suicune for gold/silver) instead of walking back and forth between routes: If you go back to a route you just left, the roaming pokemon will avoid it like the plague. You have maybe a 1% chance for them to pick the route you're on in that case.
For legendary dogs, just walk in and out of the day care center, it resets their location. Walk out, encounter in grass. If it's on the day care route it will be the first encounter.
Something interesting about Johto... Pokémon's mascot Pikachu is not native to Johto. You can only find him in the Johto-based games in Kanto's Viridian Forest. The only other gen to share this fact (Pikachu not appearing in the main region) is Gen 5. There, he needs to be transferred or recieved from an event which consequently makes the Light Ball Event-Only as Items can't be transferred from Gen 4.
I unintentionally did the Legendary Beasts route as a kid as i figured they'd still be nearby, though I'd Cut the grass and check if it was still present first lol
I knew about all of these except for the x-speed and double happiness on the route it was caught. I’m replaying Crystal on my 3ds currently and have been enjoying watching your “fixes.” Great stuff
The hard part about getting Scizor and Steelix is not finding a metal coat, but finding someone to trade with
exactly
Facts. Easier to raise friendship mons than someone with a functioning gbc and cable to trade without running off with your mon
I just use the universal randomizer to disable trade evos at this point lol
I hate trade evolutions so much
And now the 3ds eShop is closed.
Time to learn modding & trade with myself
I miss how darn cool the battle sprites looked in Gen 2, especially the moving ones in Crystal. Some pokemon, like skarmory, don't translate over to 3D well.
Bro Nidoking looked so cool in the sprite games but he looks goofy in 3d too I feel you pain.
They all look so much better in 3d
@@cyberdarkturtle6971no sir, I don't reckon. You're entitled to thinking that though if you'd like. I've played every mainline Pokémon game and to me and many of my friends, the pokemon and the games lost something special to us when they changed.
Sprites had undeniable power in their presentation, while a 3d model is just *there*. Used to be able to look forward to a new sprite, often with new poses or sometimes shades of color. Sprites have infinitely more personality
@@cyberdarkturtle6971they look more like toys than monsters in 3D... only babies actually prefer those puke colored models
i just watched this man throw a madter ball at a level 20 pupitar
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I always disliked how they made so many evolutions require trading. As a kid I could never find anyone to trade with. Low key ruined the games for me.
I would just ask randoms at school
Yo seriously. And it made replaying the games as you got older worse because you maybe had one person you knew as a kid who played and was up for trades but by the time I was in HS I knew nobody who played Pokémon. I think the newer games are likely to get rid of trade evolutions entirely after having an item for it in Arceus.
First world problems
@NA1c158 lame comment dude
@@austenlangford you typed it, so it must be true.
There's actually an even better way to found the beasts. You can go in that little building that connects Ecruteak to Route 38. Stay in front of the door to Route 38, use a Super Repel, put on your bike and save the game. Then go to the Route 38 and wander around the grass until the repel wears off. If the beast didn't appear, just reset the game (A+B+Start+Select) and repeat. You can even turn on the Pokémon March on the radio if it's Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday or Sunday to increase your odds. That's actually one of the methods shiny hunters use to found both Raikou and Entei shiny, and that's the one I used to found them.
Also, it is technically possible to get an evolutionary stone in Gold and Silver before Kanto. It's VERY unlikely, but it is possible to obtain one through the Mystery Gift function. Even if you don't have two GBCs around, you can still use it once a day with the Pokémon Stadium 2 if you have it. The thing is that each cart can only give you ONE of the stones (and they can give you no stone at all, it is a 50% chance that depends on the trainer's ID), and even then the odds of getting it is about 0,75%, so good luck with that. If the cart gives you a Max Ether, Max Elixer, Max Revive of Scope Lens, then you will know you can't get an evolutionary through this one though.
i got it on the first try with this!!!!
This is only relevant in the remakes, but if you want to more easily get the Metal Coat or King's Rock, have a Pokémon with the ability Compound Eyes in the front of your party which doubles the chances of a wild Pokémon holding an item
Again, this only applies to the remakes
Then why bring it up here?
@@SSJRadioBluthbecause they’re still GSC only with a gen 4 rendition and that aside it’s just interesting to know
@@SSJRadioBluthi learned something so i'm glad they brought it up here
@@sean1oo1that’s such a moot point.
The two are also in the Pokeathlon. I remember making my Onix evolve before Whitney.
Somehow I never knew about the Metal Coat on the traded Magneton. Huh.
Crystal only
This takes me back. No one believed me when it happened (as the game has just been released), but the first magnemite I caught had a metal coat on it. Everyone thought I was messing with them and when I showed them I told them I hadn't gotten from anyone yet, I literally had just caught it. None of us knew that they could be caught with hold items, as this was a brand new mechanic at the time.
I still don’t believe you
Bros still lying about it to this day
Just drop it already Daniel
Every single one of you was too poor for a guidebook, huh?
@@sky_pirate game FAQs was a thing, but we actually enjoy playing a game legitimately. Weird, I know. The mindset of someone who actually likes to learn things on their own rather than be spoon-fed
2:47 Pupitar can only be caught in Crystal. In Gold and Silver, you can only get it by evolving Larvitar.
Completely useless comment.
As a kid I got lucky and got the metal coat randomly from magnemite. However I didn't had anyone to trade it with me :)
Yeah, ngl I feel like not having someone to trade is a way bigger limiting factor than getting the item in the end.
I'm glad I had my brother to trade with.
The problem I had was I could never trade so the metal coat didn't matter. Truly sad lol
Or Kings Rock, or Gengar, or Machamp, or Alakazam.
@@jaredcrabb legit can't believe you forgot Kingdra... and Porygon2 I guess
@@Vic_Chaos_ No, cause theres Slowking, Steelix, and Scizor too. Just didnt name them all, especially the modern ones.
5:36 This one is interesting.
I occasionally speedrun Crystal with Eevee/Espeon only, my current run involves fishing a Magikarp just like this, giving my Eevee enough X-Items.
Didn't know that the friendship kept raising even if the stats have the +6 boost.
Sounds like it's time to shave a couple minutes off the grind
Bro I feel sorry for all the 1% of people who didn’t know lapras was in the cave
I forgot but i remember finding him once as a kid
I was that kid I did not know that until NOW 😭
I guess i got really lucky i was gaming on a friday, i just stumbled upon Lapras on my original play through
I was always told it was in the whirlpool Islands. But I guess that's why I never found Lapras. But I just booted crystal up and I'm on my way right now
I don't care at all for the lapras
“A Kings Rock holding a Slowpoke”
It was on its way to becoming a Slowking.
@@xiongraynah it a kingslow
I’m glad I’m not the only one who caught that
He said "a Kingsrock-holding Slowpoke"
Crystal added a way to get a Fire Stone while also removing Vulpix entirely. I was so mad when I found out. Sidenote, Mareep was removed from Crystal too for no reason.
Yeah my neigh our would lord his ampharos over me all the time. My first ever wild caught Magnemite had a Metal Coat though. Didn't even know about Steelix until the same neighbour Freaked Out I had it.
2:30 "Kingsrock holding a slowpoke" I thought I was having a stroke for a second there
He said "a Kingsrock-holding Slowpoke"
I've been doing some play testing on the most "powerful" teams you can get by/right after the second gym badge in pokemon games. Sort of a "What are the disc 1 nukes of pokemon" series, if you will. So I have a bonus catch/acquisition for you - if you let your mom keep your money, she will occasionally buy things from a predetermined list. Once she hits a specified amount, around 12k saved up, she will buy a moonstone. Now that's easy enough, BUT! Most people forget that mom can hold any money you have on you, not just the littler she can take after battles. So if you bum rush trainers and keep expenses down, you can have a moonstone by the time you're in....Ilex forest? I think bugsy gives you the final push needed to get the stone. This is important because you can get a jigglypuff on the little patch of a route above the first route you can catch mons on, and Wigglytuff in gen 2 can learn the elemental punches from goldenrod while having a 75 special attack stat. She's not exactly a legendary but having full elemental coverage on a mon before the third badge helps out a lot for the middle section of the game, especially with a massive HP score to help switch in and just not need to take so many breaks for healing.
Back on my first og playthrough I ran feraligatr and kadabra with the elsemental punches.
The HP is of course extremly nice, but I think it is easier to just catch Abra and teach it the elemental punches
Nice! Any other tips for the best Mons?
@@sloppysteaks5813
Well, you could get a Slowking right away, even before the second gym. It involves trading, though.
The same could be said about Politoed in Crystal version, but that one needs to be at least Lv25 for Poliwag to evolve into Poliwhirl.
Trade evolutions will generally speed things up greatly. Especially when it comes to Kadabra, as it already has a very low requirement to evolve (just being Lv16). Alakazam is incredibly overpowered at that point and stays strong throughout the whole game.
Goldenrod in general breaks the game hilariously open.
The three elemental punches being available so early as TMs that can be bought with 3k each instead of coins is insane, and return for later use is crazy.
Honestly, while I think the later games are indeed easier from my experience, it also mostly seems to be because the later games are way more helpful in pointing you towards the good stuff and give you the stuff that breaks the games wide open directly and encourage you to use them (alongside all the forced stuff like friendship and exp share and stuff).
Like, Whitney is infamously horrible for many people's younger selves, but they gift-wrap you a gift poké in the department store. I also know that my dumb kid ass didn't ever visit the department store and got any of the elemental punches which imo trivialize the game if a poké can learn all 3 or even just two.
Cuz honestly, when I now go back to older games vs. e.g. B2W2 or USUM, I am baffled how dumb my 6-year old self was vs. how Guzma's fucking Masquerain just takes out a massive, throbbing dil-*censored for youtube guidelines* with me.
Ok but a Magneton named Maggie is actually pretty adorable. I love how much thought the game devs put into naming some of these NPC trade pokemon 😄
And then you get the two Farfetch'ds called "DUX" and "CH'DING" and ask yourself if one of the namers is high off his ass.
i assumed i knew most everything about my old crystal & silver gen 2 games.. what a plethora of information! great vid
thanks for watching!
0:05 Yes. Yes, I did. 🙂
(Wild Magnemite grinding is _so_ much easier with the TM for Thief… I _still_ have unresolved trauma from seeing “Wild [PKMN] fled!” 😖)
I feel ya >
@@cecillewolters1995 That’s funny… so has Ash Ketchum. 😁
2:35 lolol come across a kings rock, holding a slowpoke 😂
It was hilarious 😂
I think the issue is having people to trade with, not getting the metal coat ...
Yeah
I've been playing these games my entire life. And this is the first time I've learned something about these games I didn't already know in years
Where were these tips 21 years ago? 🤣
Noob question about your romhack: are you changing the way trade-evolutions like Alakazam and Scizor function, since a romhack is (to my understanding) single-player?
EDITED TO INCLUDE THE ANSWER FOR OTHERS:
"Yes he is. Graveler, Machoke, Kadabra and Haunter will evolve at lvl36. The other trade while holdingg an item evos work like Evo Stones. Just use Metal coat on Scyther for. Example"
I think he's adding alternate ways to evolve trade evolutions
Yes he is. Graveler, Machoke, Kadabra and Haunter will evolve at lvl36. The other trade while holding an item evos work like Evo Stones. Just use Metal coat on Scyther for example
I’d love him to add an NPC in the game that facilitates the trades for you, maybe in exchange for specific items or quests
@@davidmanzoney1534 No need, since he made them evolve by lvl up (or item use in case of item hold trading evos)
@@Naggfruit Oh, splendid! Thanks for the quick answer!
So, would you be changing some of these mechanics in your Crystal ROM, or are we keeping them? As hard as they are to find, I wouldnt mind an alternative way to get the stones, but it is one of the only useful things the call function does in-game. The only thing I would consider changing is to up the Magnemite hold rate of Metal Coat to 5%, which is consistent with later games hold rates for items.
I hope he makes the "hold item and trade" evolves into that item acting like an evolve stone for the pokemon it affects. It's hard to find people to trade with, and it would be even more so with a rom-hack.
How do you even trade with a rom-hack?
@zidaryn most ROM Hacks actually have compatability with themselves. Assumed that you'll be using an emulator to trade with one another, which most modern ones have trade functions. I've actually traded with 3 ROM Hacks before, Crystal Clear to Full Color Red to Gold 97 Reforged. Only possible because CC keeps compatability with Gen I, and Full Color is just Gen II graphics while keeping Gen I mechanics the same. Meanwhile, 97's time machine works how Gen II's works. So, even with a different newer Pokédex, the original 151 are still compatible
@@AntinomyCruz Cool. Didn't know that.
What are you playing them on? PC? Or something else?
@@zidaryn mobile
@@AntinomyCruz What!?!!! What is this magic? What app and where do I go looking for roms?
i have an issue with that 20 min approximation for finding a metal coat with thief because it took me at least 2 hours to find one, but hey thats the game of luck we play i guess 🤷🏻
Try getting a lucky egg from a Chansey lol
The legendary dogs one is pretty interesting. I would always walk down and catch Raikou south of the city. I thought that's where it spawned. I didn't know they actually roamed until after you find them once back in the day.
Technically, they're roaming all the time since first first encounter in the burned tower. You just can't see them on the Dex until first encounter. Then, they roam as usual, but you can see where they are at any given time.
Just make aure not to fly closer.
Very informative thank you! Question though: dose the x item happiness trick work in FR/LG as well or was that just Gen 2?
My problem when I was a kid was i don't have a link cable or a friend I can trade with.
Especially when you live out in middle of nowhere 😂
Oh dang, the Friday Lapras is so cool!
I actually did end up using Steelix and a Slowking in my Crystal playthrough quite the while ago. Since I knew of the later gen thing about the hold items for Magnemite and Slowpoke, I checked I think Serebii and funny enough, yes they were thievable in Gen 2😁! So, those two came to my team of unfinished game of Crystal and they indeed are a great wall combination of physical and special defenses, I recommend of trying them out! It's a somewhat big process to get them both, yeah but it's worth it I promise you!!
I don't want to edit my last post, but I want to mention that I've made an oopsie. It was Silver, and not Crystal with these two! Also, anyone interested, the rest of the team are Meganium, Heracross, Ampharos and Crobat😁!
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The first time I encountered a legendary beast in Gold as a kid was just south of Ecruteak City. I'm not sure which one it was though.
Oh man... I miss so much those good days of Gen 2
You had me excited for a sec. I thought you meant Steelix or Scizor without trading
Oh my god, this is exactly how I came across Raikou, at the age of 6, which left me absolutely flabbergasted. I had no idea what that beast was, why it was there and that I basically forced it to spawn. Wild stuff haha
The damn items themselves don't matter if you have nobody to trade with - which was most people's issue with getting these Pokemon.
With the Legendary Beasts, I've always been consistent with finding Raikou on Route 44 in the small grassy patch in the (middle of the route by the water) and Entei on Route 45 for my first encounters lol.
Found it easier to go to Ecrutek, pop a repel run down through the grass run back up into ecrutek to reset routes and repeat process always would find one in a couple minutes. Especially if you have pokemarch playing.
2:34 I know you correct yourself, but it was so funny lol. A king's rock holding a slopoke. I'd never thought I'd see that lol
I think he meant to say kings dock holding slowpoke, but flubbed it.
People complain about Chikorita losing to the first two Gyms but Geodude is right there and carries through the first 3 either way.
It also pretty much loses against all the other gyms except Chuck (sort of, because you can still get messed up from Hypnosis into DynamicPunch)
Has trouble vs Morty
Can't do much vs Jasmine, can at least hit Steelix for neutral damage but takes a lot from Iron Tail
Has super effective moves vs Pryce but also takes a lot from ice types
Clair is an alright matchup as long as you don't get paralyzed or die to Dragonair's Ice Beam
It's also weak to most if not all of Team Rocket's poison & fire types
If you compare that to Cyndaquil or Totodile, despite obviously having access to more team members to help cover weaknesses, it's still noticeable that these starters will do better, simply because Johto by itself, it not kind to grass types.
Scizor’s design was waaaaay ahead of its time. So good
So we all gonna pretend he didn’t say a kings rock holding a slow poke. Ok then
Loool
Thats why he corrected it with some text.
You are telling me Crobat was that easy...
'Throws chair outta window'
2:44 Actually, Larvitar can be bought at the Celadon Game Corner in Crystal.
Finally someone brings it up. This is how I always get a tyranitar around blue even before fighting red
I always found my first legendary dog on that route with Sudowoodo. Now I know why.
Same. Nice to know why.
@@nousername191 To clarify since that area is a bunch of interconnected routes its got a high probability of having at least one dog on that route. Additionally since its a great shortcut between Goldenrod/Ecruteak you are gonna be using that route a lot.
I never knew about the double-friendship gain in Crystal when you level up on the same route you caught the mon... that's insanely cool!
I never made the connection between held items and the evolutionary items! Great find -- I thought Scizor and Steelix were basically this generation's Umbreon/Espeon or Kabuto/Omanyte!
That's funny because this Generation's Espeon/Umbreon would be Espeon/Umbreon.
@@aknemesis5078 Gen 2 has multiple Umbreon/Espeons! Haha
Using the friend ball is redundant, especially for Crobat. You can just using the Zubat in the early game and making sure it doesn't faint will yield enough friendship to be able to evolve right as you get Golbat. Or you can just, turn speed-up on and walk back and forth for 5 minutes to get the friendship. That works too.
the barber in the underground made your pokemon happy too
Regarding the beasts... go to the Pokédex, check for the location, fly to the location, use a super repel, fight it when it appears... Worked like a charm, if my 15 year old memory serves me correctly 😅
It wouldnt work as theyd move after you flew. Everything else would though.
I remember training up a zubat from when it only had leech life it was hell it couldn’t do anything till it got confuse ray.
I don't know what it is, but I was doing my living dex in gen 2 in Silver earlier this year and was trying for HOURS to get another metal coat off of wild Magnemites. I was just getting unlucky that whenever one spawned, it wouldn't have it, but on top of that they just weren't spawning for me all that much.
As long as you encouter them once the legendary dogs can be tracked with the Pokegear even in gen 2.
Random Fly + Pokegear track + Repel Trick makes it a lot easier to find the dogs.
This. This is what I do. And then just use a lvl 39 pokemon that has a move that prevents escape and use repel
@j.d.714 Choose an area to fly (I usually fly between Violet and Ecruteak) and check the map.
If the roaming Pokemon is nearby, go there. It'll change location once you enter the route.
Check the map again. If the Pokemon is in a route nearby, chase him without Fly. It won't change route this time.
Lead your party with a Pokemon at level 39 or 40 and use Repel this time (a fast Pokemon with Sleep moves, Mean Look, Block, or some ability like Arena Trap and Shadow Tag is recommended).
By doing it, the only pokemon able to appear is the roaming one.
Fun Fact: If you don’t want to grind for a metal coat for steelix in hgss. You can find one in the wild in cliff cave as a rare encounter (accessible after curing amphy in the light house, minimum four badges)
There's a specific trick to the legendary beasts: every time they are on a route, they are in a specific field of grass; field, not patch. If you enter the field they are in, while in it, you have a very high chance to encounter them first (guaranteed with the repel strategy). However, if you run into a different field, or encounter another pokemon first, they will immediately leave the route.
So, the trick is to go to routes that only have one patch of grass (like the aforementioned routes) and do your wandering there. And if you can track them, it just becomes a matter of time before they show up at one of the two routes. Their roaming is semi-predictable too, so it's not that hard.
getting your pokemon addicted to speed makes them happy.. im dead
Does the friend Ball actually work? I was under the impression Kurt was drunk and all his balls are broken.
I was replaying crystal and caught a slowpoke that kept flinching bugsy and I looked at slowpoke and it had a kings rock
Wow, after all this time I never knew X items can increase friendships. I only knew Irons, Proteins, etc. Niiice. You learn something everyday. Thanks!
Where was this video back in 2000 when I needed it?
Well not on the non existent youtube :P
That walking into the teleport to get steps in is genius lol
I used to go to cycling path and go all the way up then just let him go down himself
I did that to catch the dogs when I was like 8 or 9 naturally because i realised they'd always appear on those routes. Good times
Thank you so much for all the Gen 2 content. While it was probably one of the more poorly made generations, it's still my favorite and I appreciate the nostalgia you deliver me :)
I beg to differ. Gen 2 is not one of the greatest pokémon games ever but it amplified the ingame universe in a way Gen 1 didn't. You can learn more about the better side of the game in videos here on yt.
I was born in 2004. I managed to grab pokemon crystal on the 3DS before the E-Shop closed and it's genuinely my favorite game. I have no nostalgia bias: the vibes are simply immaculate.
@@morissonviana6256 Gen 2 is the best.
After 20 yrs I finally understand how Friendship is working in Gold. Thanks
"come across a king's rock holding a slowpoke" 😂
"A king's rock holding a slowpoke" HAHA at around 2:35
2% is such a strange number for Magnemite to be holding Metal Coat... Usually the % is 10, 5, or even 1... but 2%? That's so unique and interesting. Also, I very much appreciate you actually having footage of successfully thieving the MC from Magnemite. This type of thing makes me want to play through Crystal again!
There's an error about that step count to level up Pokés with Friendship. It stops working when you gt to 200 or 220 Happiness. It is good just when you catch it, and even if you catch it with Friend Ball (which automatically puts it in 200/220 Happiness, I think) it won't work.
The general process is: catch or hatch the Poké; use all 6 vitamins on it; enter a battle with a Magikarp like you did, or just some lv. 2 Poké east of Newbark Town and use 6 X Attacks, Defense, Speed, Special and Accuracy; then go finish the Elite Four (to battle Lance) and Red some times. It will increase the Happiness the fastest.
Ah, and the Crobat thing earlier isn't that well implemented, I think. If I remember correctly, the only Berry Tree that gives Green Apricorn is that one you showed between Ecruteak and Mahogany, and at this time in the game you'll need to back track a lot to get a very low level Zubat to out in your team... You know, the only people that will do it are the ones who really like Crobat (despite it being very poor in-game, with attacks like Wing Attack, Sludge Bomb basically). If the Green Apricorn where to be found, like, west of Azalea Town it would give the opportunity to catch a Zubat in that cave over there, or even in Illex Forest. :)
As someone who grew up only playing one version since my brother has the other one, playing Gold as an adult for the first time was a treat. I always knew GS had different sprites per version, but seeing the respective other ones first-hand is really cool. Some mons also end up looking infinitely cooler in one version. I actually never put enough thought into it though, to realize that GS are the only games that do it. In my mind, RB and RS must have done it too, but looking at spriters resource, you are correct! How I never noticed this is beyond me.
For the Legendary Beasts, you don't need to fly. Anytime you change a route, it changes its location. Try one route, if it doesn't work walk towards the other route, and if it doesn't work... just walk back to the other route. Walk in circle, using repels, and you'll quickly get them.
Abou thief... Red pikachu has a lighy ball, so dont forget to steal it
Only on the remakes.
@@Filsantos86 true... Silver was my first game and i overplayed it, and then i pverplayed the remakes, so somethings are scrambled in my head
I love myself a king's rock holding a slowpoke
But you still have to trade with someone. That’s the sucky part so technically you can’t get steelix or scizor. You made it sound like you can do it with out trading
Not sure how hard this would be, but maybe instead of having the trade evolutions evolve at level 36 or with the trade held item, you could make extra trade NPCs that offer trades of Pokemon that evolve by trading.
For example, In Cianwood city, you could have someone offer to trade Machoke for Machoke, since he wants to get a Machamp to be a better fighting type trainer. In Yellow, someone trades you a Machoke for a Cubone, so there is precedent for getting a trade evolution from an NPC. The game can check if the traded pokemon is of the correct gender for an NPC trade, so maybe you could check if it has king's rock/metal coat, too, and make those trades NPC trades.
You might also put more NPC trades on the upper floor of the Pokemon centres.
Maybe, instead of putting the starters in the wild on route 27, you could have them as trades in Pokemon Centres. So, to get another starter, you'd instead have to breed your own starter at the daycare, and then trade. Seems more thematic. After the time capsule is available, you could make trades available from "the past", perhaps Kanto starters for hard to catch Gen 1 pokemon like Tauros. (That's the only example I can think of which is available fairly early and easily in Gen 2.)
Why would he do this? Evolving at 36 makes much more sense. Getting rid of stupid gimmicks is the way to go.
@@veila0924 Trading may be a stupid gimmick, but it's a core stupid gimmick for the franchise. Trading for version exclusives, gift pokemon, and trade evolutions is part of the flavour of the game. My suggestion is (I think) an easy way to maintain the flavour and make it more convenient given the limitations of emulator play.
@@lacklustermathie Nah. There's a reason the "evolve by level up" feature of the randomizer is so popular. Anyone that plays on emulators, even vanilla runs, will use the randomizer to enable that function. There is literally no point in doing anything else for a romhack meant for single player.
What flavour is lost by doing away with trade evolutions when it's just a convoluted way to force interactivity with NPCs that only serve that function?
@@veila0924 Or other people which may not even like video games.
👎 still need to trade
faded asf on summer break and just saw u uploaded on the old/main channel again and it made my day, smithplays and zombies was my childhood 😭
2:33 with that information.. I really would like to meet that very lucky trainer who came across that king rock holding a slowpoke... since its unheard of LMAO
It’s interesting that you say that about the roaming legends, but Tip on that, if you enter a gate that’s between a city & a route, then they will not move to another route.
Regarding friendship: newborn Pokémon always have 120 points so, by capturing a Ditto and breed with Eevee you can get both Espeon and Umbreon before level 16 with any of the said methods. The same applies to Chansey.
A king’s rock holding a slowpoke sounds holdsome
Gen 1 and 2 jank will always be home to me. Loved this vid
Use clone glitch to get money for vitamins. They greatly increase friendship.
Will have to keep these in mind for my playthroughs of the Virtual Console Gen 2 games
I found the legendary dogs blind quite a bit as a kid. Too bad i was never prepared to catch them
For the people that wanna know why he is telling you about this strat of encountering Entei and Raikou (and Suicune for gold/silver) instead of walking back and forth between routes:
If you go back to a route you just left, the roaming pokemon will avoid it like the plague. You have maybe a 1% chance for them to pick the route you're on in that case.
For legendary dogs, just walk in and out of the day care center, it resets their location. Walk out, encounter in grass. If it's on the day care route it will be the first encounter.
"A king's rock holding a slowpoke" lolol
8:14 i remember discovering this as a kid and presenting my Raikou and Entei to my best friend. Man was astonished
Something interesting about Johto... Pokémon's mascot Pikachu is not native to Johto. You can only find him in the Johto-based games in Kanto's Viridian Forest. The only other gen to share this fact (Pikachu not appearing in the main region) is Gen 5. There, he needs to be transferred or recieved from an event which consequently makes the Light Ball Event-Only as Items can't be transferred from Gen 4.
I unintentionally did the Legendary Beasts route as a kid as i figured they'd still be nearby, though I'd Cut the grass and check if it was still present first lol
I dupe Pokémon in the pc to get more of a particular item. Maximum clonage.
2:37 King’s Rock holding a Slowpoke. Funny to hear and not see the correction on screen
I knew about all of these except for the x-speed and double happiness on the route it was caught.
I’m replaying Crystal on my 3ds currently and have been enjoying watching your “fixes.” Great stuff
There is no day I don't see that it is Kurt's shirt and his moth but instead I saw it as Kurt has a moth like Octillery Blower push out of his face
Did you have a stroke
@@smithplayspokemon no, but more like diabetes
guys... for gods sake... if you have all that time to figure out that stuff, just beat the elite 4.
Did anyone else start singing the Poké rap at 3:18?
the magnemite thief method of getting a metal coat is how i got a steelix for my recent run on crystal before the third gym haha.
I always used the haircut lady in Goldenrod for friendship. 4 haircuts with some time manipulation and you get an evolve
Scizor is pronounced as if it was a pair of scissors
Is rare that I find new interesting things I would like to try out on this 20+ year old game. Great video