Jazak Allahu khairan! قال رسول الله صلی الله عليه وآله وسلم: “فَاعْلَمُوا أنَّ الأرْضَ لِلَّهِ ورَسولِهِ” The Holy Prophet صلی الله عليه وآله وسلم said: “So know that the earth belongs to God and His Messenger.” (Sahih Al Bukhari: Hadith sharif 3167, Sahih Muslim: Hadith sharif 1765) قال الامام النووي: معناه ملكها والحكم فيها Imam Nawawi said: it means: it’s (earth’s) ownership and ruling over it (is for Allah and His Messenger صلی الله عليه وآله وسلم )
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. May Allah swt reward you. Ameen. Is there mention in our tradition of the jews having to live in exile? Are they forbidden by Allah swt to create a state in the holy land?
Jazaki Allahu khayran. I am not aware of anything about either of these two scenarios. It is worth remembering that Umar did allow the Jews to return to and live in Jerusalem. Indeed, he also protected the rights of Christians.
21:95, 96; And there is a ban upon any community which We have destroyed: that they shall not return. Until, when Gog and Magog are let loose, and they hasten out of every mound, So, all bans will be lifted if there are any.
@@salihaeljattari1230@salihaeljattari1230 Mostly "Ala karyetin," defined as inhabitants of the city. Hasidic Jews say that God banished the Israelites from Jerusalem. According to them, Jews should not claim any ownership of the land. Until God will lift the ban through the Messiah. If the verse's explanation corresponds with this situation, we could say it is not related to the Messiah but to the Gog and Magog invasion. This is not a big problem because when Jesus Christ comes, Gog and Magog will be released soon after.
That was a wonderful lecture Dr Fatoohi. Is there a relationship and reference to the land of Palestine in verses 24:35-37? I was there in the summer and the walk from the Damascus Gate to the chandelier inside Al Aqsa very much felt like it.
@@ygh1973 Glad you liked it. I do not see a reference to Palestine in 24:35-37. Verse 35 is metaphorical and verse 36 refers to praying houses in general. There is a minority opinion that the reference in 36 is to specific masjids, including al-Kaʿba and bayt al-Maqdis, but it is usually mentioned to be rejected on the basis that the reference in the verse is clearly general, not specific. I do not doubt, of course, that the place feels very special, as you say.
Some questions: - Even if according to the Old Testament the land is a perpetual gift, it was a gift to Abraham and his progeny including Ishmael the father of the Arabs, who still inhabit to this day all over the region. Wouldn't the perpetual gift be fulfilled in that context? Unless in the far future, such major catastrophes occur that there are no Arabs any longer in this region. - What is the view on land rights in Islam? In history, empires and invaders have reallocated land through cataclysmic events, does the land revert to owners hundreds or even thousands of years later? - The above point reminds me of a saying by Imam al Nawawi (which I do not fully understand) that he did not eat of the fruits and vegetable of Sham while teaching in Damascus in Dar Al Hadith, as in his view "Sham was a waqf " to Prophet Ibrahim (AS) (I assume)".
Peace brother. I can’t find justification for there being 2 holylands in the Quran. It seems to me to make more sense that there is only 1 holyland and that the references Allah gives are about the land given to Abraham. I have come to the conclusion that Jerusalem is the only holy land. I know this goes completely against conventional wisdom but when I’m honest with myself I can’t say that I find any justification for Arabia having any holy sites. I think you do good analysis. Could you do a breakdown on Mecca in the Quran and its link to Arabia? This is one vid I made giving my understanding on the topic ua-cam.com/video/JN6841aL-3I/v-deo.htmlsi=3vBtT0AtBGDUb8h4
When approaching a text, not least the Qur'an, we look for an “interpretation,” not “justification.” The latter sounds like an a priori position. Please be more specific on what you disagree with in the video regarding my commentary on the verses that use “mubaraka” and “muqaddasa” to describe different places.
@@louay.fatoohi i do have a position that ive come to i dont hide that. im asking you to falsify my position because i respect your intellectual efforts. so my question is do you know why i should accecpt mecca being in arabia? i have looked at what Allah says and i dont belive its there but im only a man so i could be wrong. i am in agreement with you on the terms mubaraka and muqaddasa. in fact i think the way Allah uses those terms is a clue to the geography of the land. the whole of palestine is the blessed land but jerusalem is the capitol. the arabs even call it al quds. as you said thats because this is specifically the place of Gods word. ei: the place of the temple or masjid this is all what makes me wonder about mecca in arabia. is there any reason from Allah i should see it as holy? if you dont know that not a problem your only a man to but i thought id ask. peace
There are some methodological principles that people often ignore unwittingly or deliberately: 1) Any claim needs evidence to be worth considering. A claim does not become more likely by stating it forcefully or repeating it. 2) The burden of proof is on the claimant, not on those who did not make the claim or reject it. 3) There can be many opinions on just about every matter. The existence of an opinion does not mean that it has any truth value or significance. Scholarship is about comparing competing views to identify which one is more likely based on available evidence. Your claim that Mecca is not in Arabia violates all three principles. You do not seem to appreciate what historical evidence you are up against when you claim that Mecca is not in Arabia. Your claim is one instance of a common fundamental flaw with outlandish views on ancient history. Because ancient history is not as accessible as modern history, people tend to treat it as if it is based on nothing and there are no sources, so all claims are equally valid. This is false. There is nothing wrong with having a strange or unpopular view. But you need to present it scientifically. My advice to you is to try to write a critical piece in which you compare the evidence for your view with the evidence for the standard view that Mecca is in Arabia. If you convince yourself that you have written a credible piece, submit it to a scholarly journal or forum for feedback. Only then you will be in a position to form a view on the credibility of your view.
With all due respect, The Garden of Eden and the HOLY LAND are ancient Metaphors for God -Union and Spiritual Enlightenment they are not real geographic locations on the planet Earth. Research the mistranslation. Sincerely. Imo 🤔 Does the "Land of Milk and Honey" mean we will all enjoy Milk and Honey .....forever ?
45:00 "The chosenness of the Israelites ended when the prophet Muhammad (sav) came." I do not think so. The special status of the Israelites came to an end 40 lunar years after Jesus' (pbuh) ascension, around 67 CE. The time between 67 CE and the first revelation to Muhammed (pbuh) is considered an interregnum. I define it as the age of monks. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) brought an end to this age of monks. The authority of the Israelites was taken from them as prophesied by Jesus Christ (pbuh). I believe this is the real reason why Jews do not like Jesus (pbuh).
@@louay.fatoohi@louay.fatoohi My perspective is different. If you have time, you could read the End of the Age of Magpie, the beginning of a messianic era. It is mostly related to The End times but also consists of chosenness. Shortly, Prophet Abraham (pbuh) bought chosenness from Melchizedek (angel Gabriel). They, the seed of Abraham, were chosen to deliver people from darkness to light. When God chooses a nation, this means that they have a responsibility to promote God on earth, and God will bless them. The duty is on the shoulders of Ishmaelites, Edomites, and Israelites when/if God chooses. When one fails, God can choose another one based on His wisdom. Can Ishmaelites would be changed with another nation? Look at the Quran and what God says.
@@Age_of_Magpie The challenge is not to come up with a theory. The challenge is to find a theory/interpretation that sounds more probable than competing alternatives. This can only be established by comparing the available evidence for each. The burden of proof is always on the claimant.
@@louay.fatoohi 5:19 O People of the Scripture! Now hath Our messenger come unto you to make things plain unto you after """ an interval (of cessation) of the messengers,""" lest ye should say: There came not unto us a messenger of cheer nor any warner. Now hath a messenger of cheer and a warner come unto you. Allah is Able to do all things. Scholars defined this period between Jesus' ascension and the First revelation to Muhammed (peace be upon them). However, I would prefer to subtract 40 years because of Jesus' disciples who have religious authority. So, when Jerusalem church collapsed, "ala fatratin," started.
And the destruction of the Jewish temple (70) was the last nail in the coffin; after that, there was no establishment, only individuals who preached the truth.
Dr you have been missed, always waiting for your videos, Allah Bless you
May Allah bless you too!
wonderful lecture Dr Fatoohi , May Allah bring you bless and reward you for your efforts
May Allah bless you too.
Jazakum Allahu kheirun Dr Fatoohi, masha Allah you are a genuine treasure within our community!
Jazaka Allahu khayran, brother!
Thanks for sharing.... ❤
Alhamdulillah. Thank you Dr Fatoohi for an enlightening lecture.
You are welcome.
Jazak Allahu khairan!
قال رسول الله صلی الله عليه وآله وسلم: “فَاعْلَمُوا أنَّ الأرْضَ لِلَّهِ ورَسولِهِ”
The Holy Prophet صلی الله عليه وآله وسلم said: “So know that the earth belongs to God and His Messenger.”
(Sahih Al Bukhari: Hadith sharif 3167,
Sahih Muslim: Hadith sharif 1765)
قال الامام النووي: معناه ملكها والحكم فيها
Imam Nawawi said: it means: it’s (earth’s) ownership and ruling over it (is for Allah and His Messenger صلی الله عليه وآله وسلم )
وعلیکم السلام ورحمتہ اللہ و برکاتہ
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. May Allah swt reward you. Ameen. Is there mention in our tradition of the jews having to live in exile? Are they forbidden by Allah swt to create a state in the holy land?
Jazaki Allahu khayran.
I am not aware of anything about either of these two scenarios. It is worth remembering that Umar did allow the Jews to return to and live in Jerusalem. Indeed, he also protected the rights of Christians.
21:95, 96; And there is a ban upon any community which We have destroyed: that they shall not return. Until, when Gog and Magog are let loose, and they hasten out of every mound,
So, all bans will be lifted if there are any.
@@louay.fatoohi Interesting. Thank you for your reply
@@Age_of_Magpie The aya does not mention a specific city.
@@salihaeljattari1230@salihaeljattari1230 Mostly "Ala karyetin," defined as inhabitants of the city. Hasidic Jews say that God banished the Israelites from Jerusalem. According to them, Jews should not claim any ownership of the land. Until God will lift the ban through the Messiah.
If the verse's explanation corresponds with this situation, we could say it is not related to the Messiah but to the Gog and Magog invasion. This is not a big problem because when Jesus Christ comes, Gog and Magog will be released soon after.
Al salamu alaikum. What relationship can you draw between the geographic location of the "Fertile Crescent" and the Holy Land.
This is discussed in the video.
That was a wonderful lecture Dr Fatoohi.
Is there a relationship and reference to the land of Palestine in verses 24:35-37?
I was there in the summer and the walk from the Damascus Gate to the chandelier inside Al Aqsa very much felt like it.
@@ygh1973 Glad you liked it.
I do not see a reference to Palestine in 24:35-37. Verse 35 is metaphorical and verse 36 refers to praying houses in general. There is a minority opinion that the reference in 36 is to specific masjids, including al-Kaʿba and bayt al-Maqdis, but it is usually mentioned to be rejected on the basis that the reference in the verse is clearly general, not specific.
I do not doubt, of course, that the place feels very special, as you say.
Some questions:
- Even if according to the Old Testament the land is a perpetual gift, it was a gift to Abraham and his progeny including Ishmael the father of the Arabs, who still inhabit to this day all over the region. Wouldn't the perpetual gift be fulfilled in that context? Unless in the far future, such major catastrophes occur that there are no Arabs any longer in this region.
- What is the view on land rights in Islam? In history, empires and invaders have reallocated land through cataclysmic events, does the land revert to owners hundreds or even thousands of years later?
- The above point reminds me of a saying by Imam al Nawawi (which I do not fully understand) that he did not eat of the fruits and vegetable of Sham while teaching in Damascus in Dar Al Hadith, as in his view "Sham was a waqf " to Prophet Ibrahim (AS) (I assume)".
Peace brother. I can’t find justification for there being 2 holylands in the Quran. It seems to me to make more sense that there is only 1 holyland and that the references Allah gives are about the land given to Abraham. I have come to the conclusion that Jerusalem is the only holy land.
I know this goes completely against conventional wisdom but when I’m honest with myself I can’t say that I find any justification for Arabia having any holy sites.
I think you do good analysis. Could you do a breakdown on Mecca in the Quran and its link to Arabia?
This is one vid I made giving my understanding on the topic
ua-cam.com/video/JN6841aL-3I/v-deo.htmlsi=3vBtT0AtBGDUb8h4
When approaching a text, not least the Qur'an, we look for an “interpretation,” not “justification.” The latter sounds like an a priori position.
Please be more specific on what you disagree with in the video regarding my commentary on the verses that use “mubaraka” and “muqaddasa” to describe different places.
@@louay.fatoohi i do have a position that ive come to i dont hide that. im asking you to falsify my position because i respect your intellectual efforts. so my question is do you know why i should accecpt mecca being in arabia? i have looked at what Allah says and i dont belive its there but im only a man so i could be wrong.
i am in agreement with you on the terms mubaraka and muqaddasa. in fact i think the way Allah uses those terms is a clue to the geography of the land. the whole of palestine is the blessed land but jerusalem is the capitol. the arabs even call it al quds. as you said thats because this is specifically the place of Gods word.
ei: the place of the temple or masjid
this is all what makes me wonder about mecca in arabia. is there any reason from Allah i should see it as holy? if you dont know that not a problem your only a man to but i thought id ask. peace
There are some methodological principles that people often ignore unwittingly or deliberately:
1) Any claim needs evidence to be worth considering. A claim does not become more likely by stating it forcefully or repeating it.
2) The burden of proof is on the claimant, not on those who did not make the claim or reject it.
3) There can be many opinions on just about every matter. The existence of an opinion does not mean that it has any truth value or significance. Scholarship is about comparing competing views to identify which one is more likely based on available evidence.
Your claim that Mecca is not in Arabia violates all three principles. You do not seem to appreciate what historical evidence you are up against when you claim that Mecca is not in Arabia.
Your claim is one instance of a common fundamental flaw with outlandish views on ancient history. Because ancient history is not as accessible as modern history, people tend to treat it as if it is based on nothing and there are no sources, so all claims are equally valid. This is false.
There is nothing wrong with having a strange or unpopular view. But you need to present it scientifically. My advice to you is to try to write a critical piece in which you compare the evidence for your view with the evidence for the standard view that Mecca is in Arabia. If you convince yourself that you have written a credible piece, submit it to a scholarly journal or forum for feedback. Only then you will be in a position to form a view on the credibility of your view.
With all due respect,
The Garden of Eden and the HOLY LAND are ancient Metaphors for God -Union and Spiritual Enlightenment they are not real geographic locations on the planet Earth.
Research the mistranslation.
Sincerely. Imo 🤔
Does the "Land of Milk and Honey" mean we will all enjoy Milk and Honey .....forever ?
45:00 "The chosenness of the Israelites ended when the prophet Muhammad (sav) came." I do not think so.
The special status of the Israelites came to an end 40 lunar years after Jesus' (pbuh) ascension, around 67 CE. The time between 67 CE and the first revelation to Muhammed (pbuh) is considered an interregnum. I define it as the age of monks. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) brought an end to this age of monks. The authority of the Israelites was taken from them as prophesied by Jesus Christ (pbuh). I believe this is the real reason why Jews do not like Jesus (pbuh).
ua-cam.com/video/hVz4pShW2JM/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/BKJp7-EuyVE/v-deo.html
@@louay.fatoohi@louay.fatoohi My perspective is different. If you have time, you could read the End of the Age of Magpie, the beginning of a messianic era. It is mostly related to The End times but also consists of chosenness.
Shortly, Prophet Abraham (pbuh) bought chosenness from Melchizedek (angel Gabriel). They, the seed of Abraham, were chosen to deliver people from darkness to light. When God chooses a nation, this means that they have a responsibility to promote God on earth, and God will bless them. The duty is on the shoulders of Ishmaelites, Edomites, and Israelites when/if God chooses. When one fails, God can choose another one based on His wisdom. Can Ishmaelites would be changed with another nation? Look at the Quran and what God says.
@@Age_of_Magpie The challenge is not to come up with a theory. The challenge is to find a theory/interpretation that sounds more probable than competing alternatives. This can only be established by comparing the available evidence for each. The burden of proof is always on the claimant.
@@louay.fatoohi 5:19 O People of the Scripture! Now hath Our messenger come unto you to make things plain unto you after """ an interval (of cessation) of the messengers,""" lest ye should say: There came not unto us a messenger of cheer nor any warner. Now hath a messenger of cheer and a warner come unto you. Allah is Able to do all things.
Scholars defined this period between Jesus' ascension and the First revelation to Muhammed (peace be upon them).
However, I would prefer to subtract 40 years because of Jesus' disciples who have religious authority. So, when Jerusalem church collapsed, "ala fatratin," started.
And the destruction of the Jewish temple (70) was the last nail in the coffin; after that, there was no establishment, only individuals who preached the truth.