What do the Inarah scholars know concerning the qur'an's creation Dr Robert Kerr (NAPC Conference)

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  • @catholicorthodoxfaith2689
    @catholicorthodoxfaith2689 2 місяці тому +15

    Muhajrins - The people of Haj = Messianic Jews
    Ansar - a sect of Christians in Persian Empire (Syria + Iraq) who are against Byzantine Christianity who later got Judaised (islamised) by the time of Abd Al Malik
    Quresh - Persians or Citizens of Persian Empire

  • @karenthompson1337
    @karenthompson1337 2 місяці тому +8

    The knowledge he has!! Fantastic.

  • @sirupate
    @sirupate 2 місяці тому +5

    Prof. Kerr is amazing, his breadth of knowledge is incredible. I wish he would write a book so that I could present it to the British Labour politicians to counter their proposed Islamophobia law.

  • @gentz8310
    @gentz8310 2 місяці тому +10

    Great presentation!

  • @mysotiras21
    @mysotiras21 2 місяці тому +7

    Bravo! The Inarah researchers know perfectly well that the SIN is a pack of fairytales. They need to share their data as widely as possible.

  • @BabaBest2000
    @BabaBest2000 2 місяці тому +12

    Thank Allah for the zoom function in UA-cam 😅

    • @voxpopuli8132
      @voxpopuli8132 2 місяці тому +3

      Isn't that the "full screen" button?

    • @channelone3773G
      @channelone3773G 2 місяці тому

      "The New Testament jesus" in the Light of Old Testament is an impostor a Liar and some people also called him a Lunatic and christian missionaries believe that the opposite word for Lunatic is God so jesus is a god
      The Good News is the Christians' Jesus ISN'T COMING BACK, Because The Book of Revelations is Based on an Anonymous Person's Dream, And in His Dream He saw (A Polycephaly) Multiple Heads Animal with Horns in and Horns out, Most probably that Dream occurred because of His excessive Eating 🍖🥩🥓🌭 and Drinking 🍺🍷🍾🍻🍸 .. How could christians Rely on such a Dream ?????

  • @prismgems
    @prismgems 2 місяці тому +6

    Good scholar delph, went to the shelf,
    To validate the Quran.
    But when he got there, the shelf was bare,
    The proof to be found was none.

  • @joesquash
    @joesquash 2 місяці тому +2

    Thoroughly enjoyed the music and the vocals. Great song!

  • @SzTz100
    @SzTz100 2 місяці тому +6

    Very informative, is this a new lecture or an old one ?

    • @IslamicOrigins
      @IslamicOrigins  2 місяці тому +10

      Recorded June, 2024.

    • @SzTz100
      @SzTz100 2 місяці тому +2

      @@IslamicOrigins Great stuff

  • @dpheneghan2
    @dpheneghan2 2 місяці тому +7

    What happened to Thomas Alexander? His videos were so informative.

    • @yakovmatityahu
      @yakovmatityahu 2 місяці тому +1

      Personal life issues took a toll most probably.

  • @rockzalt
    @rockzalt 2 місяці тому +4

    I thoroughly enjoy this type of lecture.
    How about asking Dr. Jay to retrieve a pointer from outside and then lock the doors behind him for about two or more hours before telling him they must have been accidently locked?

  • @fantasia55
    @fantasia55 Місяць тому

    Do you have a link to his other presentation he mentioned?

  • @petergrimshaw492
    @petergrimshaw492 2 місяці тому +1

    Great vid

  • @dpheneghan2
    @dpheneghan2 2 місяці тому +1

    OT. Mel, I never could figure out the importance or relevance of the Pisan church in AJ Deus's essays. Could you give a word on the relevance.

    • @IslamicOrigins
      @IslamicOrigins  2 місяці тому +1

      To be honest, I can't see what the relevance of it is and he might be reading too much into it.

  • @robertdegroot8302
    @robertdegroot8302 2 місяці тому

    Awesome, love Dr. Kerr. I do think he should have pointed out that the words 'at Badr' are not present in the Arabic and that the verse doesn't speak of 'armies' meeting, but people or multitudes. That would make it even more clear 8:41 speaks of something completley different.

  • @bunkenator
    @bunkenator 2 місяці тому +1

    Very interesting. But tell me, what is an "Inarah scholar"?

  • @cavalier2097
    @cavalier2097 2 місяці тому +2

    Please filter the music out

  • @Zebred2001
    @Zebred2001 2 місяці тому +5

    Great talk but what's with the music in the background?

    • @IslamicOrigins
      @IslamicOrigins  2 місяці тому

      There is no music in background. Give me a timestamp of where there is music, apart from intro.

    • @Zebred2001
      @Zebred2001 2 місяці тому +2

      @@IslamicOrigins There is music on low in the background all through the presentation!

    • @veterantruthtube3298
      @veterantruthtube3298 2 місяці тому +1

      @@IslamicOrigins there is music in the background.

    • @IslamicOrigins
      @IslamicOrigins  2 місяці тому +4

      @@veterantruthtube3298 Oh, I hear it now. Must be coming from another room.

    • @Satarack
      @Satarack 2 місяці тому +3

      @@IslamicOrigins At 17:40 Robert is quiet for several seconds, and you can faintly hear singing in the background.
      It's background noise from the recording location, and there's no simple way to perfectly filter this. A noise gate will remove the background noise when Robert isn't talking, but it won't remove the noise during the times he's speaking.
      There are AI tools now that can isolate vocals, but I don't know if there are any available for free.

  • @channelone3773G
    @channelone3773G 2 місяці тому +1

    Question is.... is jesus a sheep or shepherd...? or combination of both Sheepherd with double ee

  • @noodleitout5424
    @noodleitout5424 2 місяці тому

    43:11 My understanding is an "avatar" means it's a god. A god who is come in human form. In other words, an avatar is not a messenger of a god, it "is" the god. I find the Sanskrit translation interesting in this respect.

    • @mysotiras21
      @mysotiras21 2 місяці тому

      Avatars are not actually human, though, they only impersonate humans.

  • @loulasher
    @loulasher 2 місяці тому

    Am I crazy for thinking they might have secret handshakes?

  • @midimusicforever
    @midimusicforever 2 місяці тому +5

    The Quran is not from God.

    • @KhalerJex
      @KhalerJex 2 місяці тому

      Neither is the bible

    • @andrewrivers
      @andrewrivers 2 місяці тому

      The bible is from God, the Quran is from people who wanted to make themselves important without any respect to the previous scripture, Jesus came fulfilling more than 1 or 2 prophecies, he is the last prophet, because he is the one who started the prophethood to begin with. If Muhammad humbles himself to the body of Christ instead of persecuting it, he may have been received, but he not only denied the death and resurrection of Jesus, but he denied that the Jews were the only group of people who God had given the oracles. The testimony of Jesus Christ is the spirit of prophecy.

    • @Musclesandnursing
      @Musclesandnursing Місяць тому

      @@KhalerJexthe bible like literally is eye witness accounts, we have corroborating documentation. Sorry babe, you’re not gonna taint Jesus with your subversion tactics

    • @Musclesandnursing
      @Musclesandnursing Місяць тому +1

      @@andrewriversMuhammad isn’t even real apparently- we just found out lol

  • @harshmanhv
    @harshmanhv 2 місяці тому

    Badr is ... Phase of moon .... At badr .... At the time of the badr phase of the moon

  • @dodgysmum8340
    @dodgysmum8340 2 місяці тому

    Muawiya was a big fat hedonist (literally), I dont think he particularly cared about any theology except one via which he could pay his way into a pleasant afterlife and avoid punishment.

  • @nicodemusserpico77
    @nicodemusserpico77 2 місяці тому +1

    It's always the Greeks fault, izit... Is this one a "Nefarious" fanatic too?

  • @Stardust475
    @Stardust475 2 місяці тому

    I think mushrikun are tritheists - modalists not trinitarians.

  • @stevesmith4901
    @stevesmith4901 2 місяці тому +3

    5:36 The man said prophets don't need a biography, like the Sirah of Muhammad. But apparently gods need a biography, like the Gospels of Jesus. Hilarious!

    • @SEnricoPIndiogine
      @SEnricoPIndiogine 2 місяці тому +2

      The gospels are not strictly a biography. They are an announcement of the good news. Theology not history.

    • @stevesmith4901
      @stevesmith4901 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@SEnricoPIndiogine Right. The news story starts with the birth of a god in a specific historical time and place, and ends with the death of a god in a specific historical time and place. But totally not a biography of a god. Noted.

    • @godfreym3550
      @godfreym3550 2 місяці тому

      Yeah I don't agree with him on that but the Sirah of Muhammad is something made up centuries later.

    • @Musclesandnursing
      @Musclesandnursing Місяць тому

      Jesus was a man, and He is also God. He has a genealogy too 🫢

  • @a.e.2990
    @a.e.2990 2 місяці тому +1

    1.5 th!

  • @karenthompson1337
    @karenthompson1337 2 місяці тому +4

    😂First!!

  • @bobfisher1909
    @bobfisher1909 2 місяці тому

    So, in English terms Muslims are counterfeit Christians!
    Islam needed a prophet, so they created one from titles like Muhammad father name because even Jesus had a father, God himself, but Muhammad (Islam Jesus) father name was Abd Allah bin Al-Muttalib which means slave to Allah originally Al-ilah which was shorten to Allah, now Muhammad real name is Abū al-Qāsim Muhammad ibn ʿAbd Allāh ibn ʿAbd al-Muṭṭalib ibn Hāshim, isn't that funny, all Aramaic names I think, So Muhammad true meaning of his real name was “Qutham, ibn Abd Al-Lat” meaning Qutham, the Son of the Slave of Al-Lat.
    So Islam roots are based on titles, their prophet father was a slave to Al-ilah / Allah, and his son was a slave of Allat, now it gets funny who is Allat Muhammad a slave too, one of Allah daughters, I know right crazy stuff as we all know they are just idols of ancient times, Nanna the moon god was married to the son god who then had daughters which can be stars or other planets, Nanna is the Sumerian god of the moon. He is referred to as Sin or Suen in later Mesopotamian religious texts which is the crescent moon. So, did Al-ilah / Allah have a child with his own daughter?
    Allah is also Lord Shiva, one of the principal deities of Hinduism. He is the Supreme Being in Shaivism.

  • @TingTong2568
    @TingTong2568 2 місяці тому +3

    Speaking of the modern provinces of Madinah and Mecca didn't speak Arabic has been refuted by Dr Ahmad Al Jallad. Ahmad Al Jallad's field work has proven the Arabic language was spreading from north to south since at least around mid 2nd century AD till it even reached south in Najran in 600 AD. All the incriptions discovered around the region shows there was a mid level(not rapid) language shift for the 400 to 500 years. Few was even discovered in Yemen but Arabization of Yemen could have happen around early or mid 7th century till Arabic became the dominant language by the beggining of the 8th century.

    • @staubsauger2305
      @staubsauger2305 2 місяці тому +3

      Spoken Arabic sure, but the writing system was from Nabatean script (from Aramaic-Syriac, itself from Phoenician) I believe and the spoken Arabic was written in the adopted script - an analogy is how English (a French-German-Latin-Greek mashup) is written in the Latin script.

    • @TingTong2568
      @TingTong2568 2 місяці тому

      @@staubsauger2305 of course Arabic is from Nabatean but NOT Syriac.

    • @staubsauger2305
      @staubsauger2305 2 місяці тому +2

      @@TingTong2568 The original Koran makes more sense in Syriac than it does in Arabic - if you weren't aware around 1/5th of the Koran makes little sense in Arabic but makes sense in Syriac. Given the Koran borrows heavily from earlier Syriac Christian scripts this follows logically.

    • @TingTong2568
      @TingTong2568 2 місяці тому

      @@staubsauger2305 having heavily borrowed terms dosen't mean that the Quran was originally written in Syriac. This hypothesis made by Gabriel Sowma but many scholars differs. The Quran is written in Arabic but heavily borrowed Syriac, Hebrew, Ethiopic, Greek and even Persian.

    • @staubsauger2305
      @staubsauger2305 2 місяці тому +2

      @@TingTong2568 The Quran cannot be written in Arabic because written Arabic as we know it came after the Koran. Unless you believe in time machines ? The earliest fragments appear to be Syriac, and the geographical references to tribes and terrain features are in Syriac territory. I don't know why you resist the truth ?