Volkswagen SP2: All You Need To Know
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- Now this Volkswagen is probably the least know car out of all the cars we have talked about on this series! for today's Episode "All You Need To Know About The Volkswagen SP2" we are going to dive into a long lost Volkswagen sports car that had a huge impact in Brazil when it was built in the 1970's. This car also laid the ground works for Volkswagen and Porsche to build the Future 924 and 944 but none of that would have been possible without the Volkswagen SP2. I personally think the SP2 is a beautiful car and if more people know about this car enthusiast would be going nuts for them! So if your looking for a future Volkswagen classic then join me as we dive into all you need to know about the Volkswagen SP2.
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Intro 00:00-02:06
History 02:07-05:54
What makes the SP the SP 05:55-10:00
What is The SP selling for 10:01-11:45
Modifications 11:46-13:10
Final thoughts 13:11-15:29
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Beautiful car. If VW continued manufacturing this car with improved engine power , it would have been a worldwide success.
BRIDGES yep I agree also! Only part that held it back was the power
@@ThreePedalGarage OMG😮😮 i never ever heard of 1of those in my life they are beautiful thank you for posting this video i appreciate it im def a new sub
@@jamesmiralda7965 thank you! Yes it’s a beautiful car and I couldn’t believe I never heard of it before either. When I saw it I was like I need to make a video on it.
Parabéns . É a primeira vez que vejo um estrangeiro elogiando um carro feito no Brasil, para brasileiro. Com o que tínhamos, fizemos milagres. Um deles foi o SP2.
In Brazil it’s difficult to make heavy modifications to the car and keep it legal. They don’t want you changing anything on the car for registration purposes.
Oh man that sucks. Ya I have faked to a few people in Brazil and they said that it’s really hard. Wish you guys could modify more cars
Only enforced in middle class areas. Cops don't bother with lower class for safety or upper class areas for job safety
@@danielescobar7618that’s usually how it is even in canada . they don’t pull over the shitty unsafe cars with 4 bald tires and no brake pads left, no they pull over the modified normal cars because those are the ones who have disposable income and care enough to keep their car out of impound,upper class of course generally get left alone in their sports cars but yeah modified cars are totally legal but get targeted for sure
@@MrComradebuttons same with speed trapping people on morning rush hour near the industrial areas... They don't do the highway into the offices downtown.
Portland just doesn’t have any traffic enforcement.
Zero.
I decided not to renew my registration on my car in 2020….havnt been pulled over once….
You should definitely do this build! My Dad had an SP2 when I was a 13 year old kid. I taught myself to drive it and used to take it for joy rides everyday after both parents left for work (I was late for school A LOT). We both miss this car and would LOVE to see you build one!!
Lol that’s a pretty funny story! Ya I figured it could be a really cool idea for a build something super different
Eu sou do Brasil e nos anos 80 e 90 esses carros valiam muito pouco, ficavam largados nas ruas e fundos de casa, hoje são extremamente raros e caros.
El deportivo brasilero mas lindo de toda la historia 😍😍😍
It would be a shame to lose the air-cooled simplicity, but even a base-level Boxster engine would give a huge power boost and Boxsters are still kind of a giveaway car right now.
Ya that is true. If you got an old 911 motor that would be cool
@@ThreePedalGarage didn't gm make a air cooled flat six?
@@GTSW1FT hmmm off the top of my head I’m not sure.
I'm trying to get my year-end bonus up this year so I can grab a decent Boxster for about $10K you betcha.
The SP' have the front of a Brasilia/Variant, the engine of a Kombi/Fusca(Beetle in the US), the Pulma style, and the fame for being slow.
Unfaithfully, here in Brasil, they are extremely rare to find, and because they are our classic car, its hard to find one well preserved, and you better have a lot of money to spend on.
They were like the poor mans Pulma, as the Pulmas were espensive. It would be a car that would compete with cars like the Ford Maverick, Chevy Opala, wich in the time were the biggest sports cars we would see here. They had the same engine that all the VW popular cars would offer at the time, and they kept offering these engines until the mid 80's. The most popular model, the Gol(not to be confused with GolF, this only came to here in the 3 gen), would have more horsepower and even more sportive trims.
Gabriel Topam oh great information! Thank you for this! I always thought a Porsche 911 turbo motor swap on the SP would be amazing
@@ThreePedalGarage thats for sure!
Sorry Andrew if I heard a lot of baloney coming from this video.
You lamented the demise of SP 1, actually VW of Brazil and the interested public was very glad that it quickly disappear. It was an embarrassment to VW of Brazil and those that bought them.
I can't really vouch your story about THE reason why VW of Brazil created and produced the SP1 & SP2.
In the 1960's VW of Brazil together with Ghia were producing the Karmann Ghia, but between that model and SP 2, it also designed and produced the Karmann Ghia Tc.
So, VW of Brazil had a good record of producing "sports" cars.
VW of Brazil wanted to conquer a slice of market of sports cars that in the late 60's and early 70's was dominated by Puma, which produced the Puma GT with VW chassis and air cooled engine.
Yeap, even for early 1970's standards, the SP 2 was considered under powered but for that, VW of Brazil had plans of SP 3, which you completely missed the ball by omitting in this video. There was a VW dealership that went ahead and shoehorned a VW water cooled engine to a SP 2, but nobody bought it because it was exorbitant expensive.
Another baloney:"VW should had put a stronger engine". Even considering all VW engines worldwide produced at that time, there were only the air cooled boxer and the inline water cooled 4 cylinder that came from recently released Golf.
So kiddo, no G60, VR6, 5cyl or W8, yet.
At that time, the way to gain power was via increasing bore to usually 1800 to 1900cc, but I knew specialized motor shop that could work in a 1600cc all the way to 2200cc. Of course freer flowing headers, more aggressive command and a pair of dual 36 or 40 Weber to complete the package.
"600, 700 hp would be great". Another big baloney here. You didn't do your homework. With most mechanical parts of VW type 3, no bueno amigo. Yeah, we seen 1960's Karmann Ghia shoehorned with Chevy LS engine. Who cares about SEMA cars. Not practical well rounded cars.
At the end, the SP2 was a flop. It most likely VW didn't recoup money in this project. So that was part why VW didn't went ahead with SP3 project.
VW also shot its foot when shortly after launched the 1st gen Passat.
One of my older cousins placed an order for a SP2 but there was a long waiting list. So, when the Passat came out, it had a modern water cooled engine, much better sportier suspension and lots of space. in a time when everybody bought cars as daily drivers and few could afford to buy weekenders a lot of potential buyers cancelled the SP2 orders and bought Passats.
I hope that in the future you do better homework and less baloney.
So I reached out to several VW experts when making these videos to have them verify the information. I also read articles from several reputable site to pull the information from. I know you said I did not mention the SP3 which I do mention it in the video. I also talked about how the Puma GT had a huge market share and VW build the SP2 to try and take some of that market. I do understand at the time the SP2 was made there was no VR6, G60s, 5 cylinder or W8 and the most reliable way to make more power was to bore the motor to a larger size. Additionally it seems like SEMA builds aren’t your thing which is fine, but for other people they really enjoy builds like this. Yes they may not always be practical but they are really interesting and usually super creative. almost all the point above I did talk about in the video so I’m not sure why your saying I need to do better research or that the information is baloney if you basically repeating it over. I am assuming you are from Brazil since your cousin placed an order for the car. I did talk to several VW enthusiasts from Brazil before releasing this and they all agreed that the information in the video was correct. Sorry if this offended you in any ways but I’ll stick by the research and experts I interviewed to make this video happen, I take research very seriously and it takes days/weeks to put this information together.
Great looking VW. Really deserved a much much longer production run.
Yes I agree also! Sad to see them be almost forgotten today
I only heard about the existence of car a few years ago and absolutely loved it the second I saw it. This car is now 50 years old. Same again as me.
Porsche and VW worked together to build the 914 VW and 914-6 Porsche and now this . Always happy to learn. Thanks.
I have a few very odd obscurities of Automotive history to nominate:
The Mazda Roadpacer - 13B wankle powered HQ Holden Kingswood
Alfa Romeo Giocattolo - mid mounted 5L Holden V8 powered Alfa GTV Sprint
GReddy6 Re-Amemiya Autozam AZ-1 GT Supreme turbo rotary (1996 based on Suzuki Cappuccino micro KEI car) - yes 1 single rotar of the twin rotar 13b was the same capacity as the stock 3cyl engine of the Cappuccino 😲
I remember very well the SP-1 ( 1600cc engine) and SP-2 (1700cc engine).
Top speed of the SP-2 was about 80mph, not 100mph ...
That ash grey hot rod is the most beautiful thing in have ever seen
Looks a touch like a Jensen Interceptor that was actually thought out front to back versus slapping two different halves together. That fully kitted one at the onset though? HOLY CANOLI!
You should check our other cars. Since we were "closed out" from the world for a long time, our car culture was (and still is) very different.
It is a beautiful car, but adding a twin turbo 911 engine probably isn't the smartest thing to do. For one it would require massive upgrading of the brakes, both front and rear, as well as upgrading the suspension and the chasis to handle all that additional paower and torque. A more sensible upgrade would be upgrading to a built-up type 4 engine, and reworking the gearbox ratios to match the new powerband. I've seen modified type 4 engines in 914s pulling close to 250 HP without a turbo. Trust me, the additional 175 HP over stock on a vehicle that light would fly down the road, and be a blast to drive.
I agree I was just thinking it would be a crazy build. If I would actually do a build like this I’d probably do an older air cooled Porsche engine make like 250HP and it would be such a fun car. The car weighs 2000 pounds so you don’t need much.
Never knew about this car ,amazing
gavin Hh it’s a pretty amazing car! Need some more power but it’s really cool!
Love the video. But as someone who happen to develop a condition of audible sensitive, the soundtrack is kind of a pain to hear, it "hurts" because it's just too loud quite high pitched all the time, making it hard to hear you when the music reach its peak. Everything it's quite fine otherwise. Also I didn't know about this project between VW and Porsche to make a successor for the SP2. It's a shame that this successor didn't came to Brazil...
Ya I know sadly this was my 4th video I made like this and I didn’t get the audio right sadly. I know it’s a pain for sure
There was also a Karmann Ghia exclusive to the Brazilian market, the Karman Ghia TC. This is even less known abroad than the SP1 and SP2.
🥰 saudade de ver os SP2 desfilando pelas ruas de São Paulo.
thank for your video! regards my friend!
I would love that someone can actually make it better mechanically, because this car could have been the best, with more power and better engine, definitely it will be amazing to see someone doing this on this beautiful car
Definitely hope to see you build an updated version of the SP.
Just need to keep growing the UA-cam channel and I’ll be more then happy todo it
I think it looks like the De Tomaso Mangusta. I absolutely love it. It eventually becomes the Porsche 924 so desrves to be more famous
I just found out this car today, thanks a lot man, very very informative 😊 thanks a lot
No problem! It’s a pretty cool car that many do not know about
Just imported mine!! Cannot wait to get her out and to local events!!
Damn that’s amazing! If you don’t mind me asking how much of a hassle was it to import?
great video! got your link off FB!
I'm glad you made this video. I remember them because I had a model of one in '73 (I'm 58).
I wish we just got them in the US. They look so beautiful
@@ThreePedalGarage Exactly. That stinger is a bit too long for my taste but otherwise just perfect. I never owned an air cooled VW but many man A-1 and A-2 GTi/GLI/16V. Moved on to SAAB 900T and older BMW. Current DD '88 535is, lightly modded.
such a cool car! They are pretty rare and Id love to see one build in the US!
My buddies dad has an vw sp from when he lived in Brazil… it now lives in a garage in mint condition with boxes on it 😢 in either Athens or in Akron… he has houses in both locations
Um esporte, com um desenho clássico, q fez sucesso no Brasil, mas não foram fabricados muitos. Esse do vídeo, está simplesmente, um espetáculo...
Great content
Thank you! I appreciate it 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Great looking car good presentation would love to see if any of them are in the US
There are a few in the US but they are very rare and hard to grt
I have been looking at the porsche 924 944 models. I heard about the sp2 before knowing about those. I would have never guessed it was a redone sp2. I now know why I want a 944 so bad
Ricardo Gonzalez ya the 944 is a pretty cool car! Easier to get over the SP2 lol
@@ThreePedalGarage now I just seems right I've been looking into a 944 07k swap from a jetta its almost poetic to put a 5cyl vw engine in there and boost it. Like it was made for it... it would be so cool if porsche and vw brought them back hell give the blueprints to audi too with the ttrs engine in them 😲😲 and just wreck all the competition
Very interesting video. What made you think “headache-music” would fit perfectly tho?
This was one of the first videos I made like this it wasn’t easy finding music back then. I have learned for sure
Hell yeah! it would be a beast at that weight
My all time dream build! It's actually Sport Protótipo 2, but São Paulo likes to claim everything 😂😂
Still trying to see if I can get one into the Us for cheap… not sure if it possible
@@ThreePedalGarage If you think the SP2 is hard, try the Uirapuru 💎.. almost Impossible!
I would seriously consider a Puma if the SP2 is too difficult. Beatle chassis with infinite possibilities, unique and more readily available.
More to check on the Brazilian market would be the Santa Matilde. Would love to see you build any of them!🙏🙏
Exelente Amigo. Ahora te falta un VW BRASILIA. Saludos
Steve Black2256 🙌🏻🙌🏻
i had a 92 jetta with a 1.8 litre and it was zippy like a gokart........plus it had fantastic velour bucket seats that were incredibly comfy
Sounds like it was a pretty fun car! Bucket seats are really nice to have!
I agree.. the best looking VW and until recently never knew about it. Need to bring it back in a modern rendered version.
Subaru swap? I think Yes! Too bad they are so rare. Best VW ever!
Ya a Subaru swap would probably be the cheapest way to make good power! Would be pretty cool!
It would be a great idea
The dream of any Brazilian gearhead kid born between the 80s and 90s...
I will say go for it!!!
YES!!!!! Would be so unique in today's selection of clay blob car bodies.
Those widebody’s were so tastefully done, would love to build one like that someday
Zohn ya I agree that are very nice and would be a really cool build! Just need to find a what to afford a SP2😂
I would think the
Corrado Vw is the closest
to the SP2 design for a
more modern update
look it's right on the
money.
Would love to see an SP build . 👍 . Beautiful looking ride . Never seen one driving about before .
weyland1000 ya they are pretty cool car! We will have to see how much the channel brings in $$$ wise... if it works out then hell ya I’ll be building one
Sounds good dude . The channel will grow . . Just a bit of time and it will pay off .
You can find a lot of those here in Brasil. Unfaithfully these cars até classic, so their value are enormous, and they arent a real "sports cars", they have the same engine from the Fusca, your imfamous Beetle. Wich here we call CHT.
Gabriel Topam ya I agree it’s not a true sports car but it does look nice!
@@ThreePedalGarage oh yeah, its surely beatiful
I have wanted one for a long time
They are amazing!
My Dad had one with a worked on corvair engine back in the day
That’s amazing! They are such beautiful cars
@@ThreePedalGarage other thing, as the car has the engine in the back and nothing in the front, a way to improve balance was to add a 50kg cement bag in the fronk
YES!
Espero que já esteja pronto o carro mais bonito do Brasil
Andrew VW did build another "sport car" on the type 3 chassis .. as I am sure you know the Karmann Ghia you showed in your clip was on the type 1 chassis ( VW model 14 ) What I wish you had shown was the type 34 .. built from 1961 (model year 1962) was intro at Frankfort auto show with the Square back, fast back, and ghia.
They were replaced on the assembly line by the 914 in 1969 The Type 34 was built by Karmann, designed by Ghia on a VW rolling Chassis. ALSO don't forget the Brazilian Karmann Ghia. The result was the Volkswagen Karmann Ghia TC (Touring Coupé), internally known as the Type 145, which began production in 1972 and was produced until 1975. Good clip Andrew I am not being critical
Always wanted a SP-2 But still enjoy driving the Type 343 and have people ask ..Why do you have VW hub caps on that Corvair ? LMAO
Thank you for the comment! I always appreciate when people give more in-depth comments. It a great way for me to learn and for other to read and learn more also. I 100% don’t know everything and try to be as accurate as possible lol. I did a video also on the Karmann Ghia and talked about the type 34 in that video. It’s a really cool are also. I appreciate you taking your time to right the comment, it has some great information in it!
@@ThreePedalGarage Thank You for not taking my comments wrong .. You did a excellent video
Amazing. Growing up in L.A. car culture I'd thought I'd heard of just about every oddball car out there but not this one. Would be nice to keep the spirit of the original car but swap in a performance air cooled 2.0L, maybe 140hp. Only 2000 pounds. Better to drive a slow car fast, right?
Ya it’s a pretty crazy car and ya a 2.0l with that much power would make it pretty fun
It was never sold in the USA ! Also there was another sport car in Brazil, the Karman ghia, different from the one build by Karmann in Germany.
I have an SP2 in South America, working on it, I like the idea to have options to modify and improve the performance, just we have limitation to get parts, I am in CA now, just need someone to guide me on the options I have. Can you help?
Anything you look to do to the car will be a first. There are really no simple modification to do to the car. You can probably get a beetle race motor or some kind of Porsche motor to work in the car
Great content & editing, with plenty of facts & visuals. 👍🏼
Music editing is too loud / annoying… tone it down a couple notches under the narration.
Yaaaaa sadly I don’t know how to mix audio well when I was making this video. My newer videos have a lot better audio
Great video, but very annoying background music... I would pick something a little bit more laidback, certainly during speech... I never seen a car like this in the Netherlands tbh, no idea if it was ever sold here!
Yep it was sold in Europe but it was very rare most SP2 stayed in Brazil
@@ThreePedalGarage either way, it seems like a great car to wide body and put a bigger engine in for sure!
@@DuartJansen yep that is my goal! Once I’m done with my R32 build I’m going to look into that build
why so many people is crazy about 0-60, I am not i rather a car with a bullet proof mechanics and a reliable one, the car is beautiful and so elegant what else you want. a wild example a Mclaren fi is not the numeber one on the list of super cars for many people but is reliable not just for a few minutes drive and promt to failure.
From the production time of this car, i'd rather tel it was more a kind of Porsche 914 than a 924 or 928. But good vidéo, thank you for it. Cheers
Amazing looking car. I think i would go jdm motor (subaru flat 4 or mazda 20b)
Errado, no lugar do karman guia, foi colocado em produção o karman guia TC e não o VW variant( conhecinho por vcs como type 3)
This would make one hell of a rally car!
Nos temos um dos carros mais bonitos 🇧🇷🇧🇷
of course... Porche-Audi-VW meld... 911 Carrera influence and spin off. Do what we all do and improve on the original design right?! 👌
I have 1 to restare... maybaru engine works?
Jag har aldrig hört talas om SP Volkswagen tillverkad i Brasilien..
Går det Inte ändå att ganska enkelt sätta in Porsches betydligt starkare 3 till 400 hästars motorer och drivlina???
Sadly, my buddies dad won’t sell me the car, apparently it’s promised to one of his other sons…I shall keep hustling
I've said for years, this is what they should have brought back as a retro update
From Brazil. É do Brasil🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
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Put in a Porsche engine, great suspension and better steering? Would that be an epic build on a sexy classic car?
Yep 100% agree!
I would love to see the 2 combined and tracked
Right now is the perfect timing for VW to bring it back. Calling it (VW SP Millenia EV). Offer three options from mild rear wheel drive. Mid AWD. The third option the Performance AWD. If it ever came out again I will definitely by it. And definitely get the performance AWD and rip it through the track against the model 3. Anyone agree? 😅
I agree with you!
Yes do it the will be nice
It would be an amazing build
I just found about about this car today. (May 14 2021)
It’s a pretty cool car! Sadly not to many people know about it these days
@@ThreePedalGarage I opened up my browser to UA-cam and the first video I see in the left-hand top corner was VW SP2 reborn. looked like a Porsche mixed with a 240Z
@@uptownsamcv yep basically what I was saying lol. I want to buy one and out a 911 turbo motor in it
@@ThreePedalGarage I think a turbo 4 would be better for handling. Plus with a car that light it would be plenty.
@@uptownsamcv ya that is true. I was thinking the 911 motor because like you said it looks like a Porsche a little. But I do agree a Subaru WRX STI motor would work well
I d go for an '80s air cooled aspirated 3 liter Porsche engine....enough power
Ya there are a lot of comments saying that. Probably would be the better match and it would be air cooled which sticks with the original engine layout
Do It!!!!!!!!!
Just need to grow the channel more then I’ll do it for sure
The car looked glorious, but the engine was absolutely pathetic for a sportscar. Nowadays though i reckon that would be an awsome restomod project with a proper engine
Ya I agree! It’s a slow car but would make a great restomod with a Porsche 911 turbo engine
How about doing a video on wild BMW E24's ?
Ya I should lol into some BMW to do a video on
Most def
Sage Voxo pretty cool car! Wish more people new about it!
It's pronounced Porshaa. Porsche family has majority seats on the VW board as well.
I would do like Robert design did, style as The Singer DLS
I had a corrado once.. I'd like to have all the money I sunk into that turd back...
I wanted an SP for years.. no way to get one though. not really.
Almost bought a Puma kit once too.. glad I didn't though.
The concept one
Was looking forward to watching this video about this amazing car, had to stop because of ridiculous background music
Yep this was my 4th video learned a lot since making this video
It s the same deal in romania, if you want to do something on your car slight chances you get stopped by the police, not 100% strict rules but not many room for imagination or free design either, I my self I m and architect and car designer and I suffer that I can t do much with my b6 a4 audi, oh whell, just enjoy the work that others do and thats that
Are you telling me the Porsche 924 was derived from the SP? Now *THAT* I didn't know, do you have any sources for this claim?
Not a “reputable” source but this is the basic idea
924er.blogspot.com/2011/07/from-volkswagen-sp2-to-porsche-924.html?m=1
9:47 no crazy at all, they worked together since the beginning. Ferdinand Porsche designed the Beetle original, even with the help of Adolf Hitler. It was called KDF Wagen.
Even if you just use a 2l golf motor.normal asprated..it would be a great sports performance
True it would make way more power then stick with that motor.
mod it totally would be class
Avoid the cost of the Porsche engine and use a Subi WRX or STI motor.
I thought of that also. If I did do it I’d probably do work an old air cooled Porsche engine.
3:20 what was wrong with the Karman Ghia?
The company puma said VW didn’t have a stylish sports car for the show but they sold the Karmann Ghia which I think is one of VW most elegant sport car designs.
@@ThreePedalGarage I thought the same.
One of the best looking car imo but unfortunately its noone fit saké in europe
Great video. Background music however... is completely annoying and unnecessary, making it tough to get through the entire video.
Ya I know sadly this was the 4th video I made like this so didn’t get the music right
I'm not a vw guy but i would like to own a sp
They are pretty cool cars to me a mix between a Porsche and a Datsun
Build it!
Got to finish my R32 build first then we will see
😁👍
if it had a two litre flat four with a turbo and decent disc brakes all around it would be saleable
not in Brazil.
It an Interesting story. I think that I'd just get a924 or 944.They are much cheaper and a better car
Yep makes sense they are for sure cheaper idk for me it would just be really cool putting a Porsche 911 motor in the back of an SP2 and widebody it