Overland Build: The True Cost of Required Upgrades
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- Опубліковано 14 вер 2019
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I have 2 bottle openers mounted on my truck.
One is mounted normally and the other one is mounted upside down.
That way if I happen to roll my truck over I can still open my beer 🍺 👍
Took my 98 4runner to Yosemite Park from Dallas tx and all i added to my truck was some new tires and a home made sleeping bed in the back.
Factor locking rear diff?
T actually no, it was 2WD and had over 300k miles lol... Now im driving a 96 Limited that does have the rear locker, awesome trucks.
@@luisflores_762 ah yes, they don't make them like they used to anymore. Hang on to it! Or pm if you're selling ;)
@@user-ql3ge2us4s Im definitely hanging on to it for as long as I can. However, they are getting hard to find, especially the ones that are well taken care of.
4x4, tires, lift, duct-tape, zip-ties, hammer, and a couple vehicle specific tools...
Everything else is luxury.
Agree for short trips or some locations, but.
Bullbar and Snorkel is an absolute must in Australia, you will hit a Roo or Emu or Cow.. They also didn't build bridges in a lot of remote places. River crossings galore.
A much needed video for us newbies. Greatly appreciated. Thank you!
You are the best, bro! Thanks for the POSITIVE videos encouraging ALL to overland
I'm building a Jeep WJ Overland edition for overlanding. If you're mechanically inclined and smart with shopping online you can build a really bad ass fully equipped overlamd rig for under $10k that will run forever. I got my Jeep as an auction vehicle, $1800 with 90k miles on it. V8 full time 4wd fully loaded. Had some cosmetic flaws but everything worked. The cosmetic flaws cost about $400 to fix, and I found some minor frame damage that cost $300 to fix at a frame shop in East Los Angeles. EAG armored bumpers front and rear were $1200. 12k Badlands winch was $320. 4" Zone lift with upgraded Nitro shocks I found on sale online for $679 and 32" Milestar Patagonia MTs were $650. I added the Rough Country dual stabilizer for $144 and all new steering components and bushings for $200. I got a GPI oversized 2 row radiator and redid my cooling system for around $300 in parts. Next on the build list is rock sliders for about $350, upgrade my charging systwm with a 5 wire upgrade and 250 anp alternator then Smittybilt roof rack and lighting. You can build a really great overlander on a budget if you are mechanically inclined and take the time to do the wrench work yourself.
Michael SANCHEZ now that sounds a absolutely awesome overland build mate, that’s probably exactly the same way I would do it
I completely agree with you. But then again parts for jeeps are alot cheaper since their is soo much competetion out there ahah.
@@irvgotti94 not really. There's tons of 22r motor upgrades and what not for old 4Runners, and on a group I'm part of there was a guy sellimg a ttiple locked FJ80 for $3800. A lot of the cost of anything is labor. I could have gone with a Rusty's lomg arm lift that cost almpst $4k for my Jeep but decided to go with a much more basic lift kit to keep in budget. There's parts and upgrades for almpst anything in any budget if you just look for it. In the age of information it's not hard to find. My lift kit is usually almost $800 but I waited to buy it until I found it on sale. My bumpers are usially almost twive what they cost but I found them online on an inventpry reduction sale fpr 50% off. The winch is usually double what I paid fpr it but waited til HF hadtheor parking lot sale and got theor 25% off cpupon on a mailer. There are things that are universal that arent male/model specific that if you have patience and just dig fpr the best price on line, you can very much get great stuff for way less. Just be smart and patient is the key.
I always tell someone who is wondering where to start their mods with this piece of advice.
Start from the ground up. Quite literally.
Above all else, it's the tires making contact with the ground that gets you through a trail. They need to utilize as much potential traction the terrain can offer. There's a lot that goes into selecting a good offroad tire; available sizes, how big can you go (or want to go), load ratings, wear, etc. Then you start getting into the slippery slope of lift kits and tire sizing. If you want to fit that bigger tire, you might need more room in the tire wells. Next up, if you have a solid axle, are diff guards. Then skid plates, sliders, bumpers.
Obviously, there isn't one direct upgrade path you must follow. And that list will change as your experience and skill level increases. If you have a large family, or just not enough cargo space, a roof rack might be higher on you list than sliders or a lift. A lot of it also depends on the type of trips and terrain you'll be in. For someone just getting into offroading/overlanding with their vehicle, I recommend leaving the vehicle stock and seeing what it's capabilities really are. Find its weak points or areas that would make the same trip easier and then prioritize the list.
You could even split Michael's list in two. Vehicle mods and recovery equipment.
Brenton Corns great advice 👍
Love these tips! Currently going through trying to find tbe right tire and wheel combo for my f150 and it's been a headache for sure lol but agree on tires being the first upgrade!
great advice
I appreciate a video like this. I have been interested in off road for many years but do not care to find a non elitest group of people as socializing in general is exhausting for me. I am a hermit. Every time I tried to talk some people up its been buy this jeep and this equipment and to me seemed a rich mans sport. Then I saw overlanding as a great thing for me and a brother to get into but then I started watching intro vids and 50k later you can get started. As my brother now has a leg problem he can get around but no more motorcycles and deep hiking camping that we used to enjoy regularly. This is much more doable and I really appreciate the humble nature of the vid. Thanks so much!
I just started getting into this and began with my pick up. Did a leveling kit and tires so fsr only, I have side steps that function as protection. Can't really slide, so I've gotten stuck on them, but no frame damage. Outside of that, ive gone just about everywhere I've wanted to. I'm in texas fyi. Don't let this stuff get to you, just get something 4x4 and have fun. Ive only spen a total of 1800. Rest of my gear sits in the bed. Tent, pop up gazebo, coolers, fuel, stove and clothes. All that cost me like 300 total. Is there better out there? Sure. Needed? Not at all. I've made due and had a great time. Every year I budget something new. I did get some recover hear like a hand winch, tow hooks, bottle jack, shovel and my max trax?? Are a few 2x6 with screws lol. Works great! Just janky looking. Just have fun!
Great cost breakdown. Thank you, thank you for being honest in your breakdown! I really appreciate it.
Suddenly, I don't wanna build an Overland rig. Ouch! Lol...
What you actually need is a solid 4x4, decent tires (bfg tires he picked are spendy for little advantage), hand winch(come along) , jack, jack plate, tow straps, cooler, tent and a friend
and a BIG DOG! for early warning when someone or something is approaching your camp while you are trying to sleep.
@@Tnapvrvideo Especially when there isn't actually anyone or anything approaching the camp while you are trying to sleep!
Michael, excellent breakdown of the necessities. Thanks for taking the time.
Thanks for sharing! I will need to get my essential sticker soon. Glad you added the section on repairs.
Props for the honest benchmark. I’m beginning a build of a ‘97 Trooper, we will see how close it comes to $12K before I’m happy it is restored. Then I’ll look at this list again and make some hard choices...
Excellent video.
Love it that someone tells it the way it is.
I have a 2005 Toyota Prado 120, apart from 2" lift, AT tyres, it's stock. Easily handled Round Australia in 2018
This is exactly how much I spent on my grand cherokee wk2, 15k for it plus 9k on accessories loved the video!
Great video! Thank you!
I think their are few pieces that really should be on your essential list, in fact I won't leave home without them!
A good shovel, a good medium duty axe and a descent size bucket!
Here in Southern Oregon we have a gnarly fire season and it's a good idea and required in some areas to carry these items to put out or contain small forest fires! Not to mention you can get yourself unstuck out of most easy situations with these items!
Just another part of being prepared and being a good steward of our outdoor lifestyle!
great video on the need vs nice to have upgrades. What makes a difference on how much you spend is the current condition of your off-roading rig as your baseline forward. Love your FZJ80. It never goes out of style!
Thanks for this and all you do for the community.
Amazing video. Super helpful. Signing up now for my Overland Bound membership!
Love your honesty! Thank you! I live in the Andes Mts. Cannot purchase many if these items here anyway. Would love many if them but with a missionary budget can't justify them.
Great video! We like how you specify; this is what we need for our style. Good advice.
Really good video Sir. You always put out some wonderful videos. Thank you for sharing this one with us. Enjoy & stay safe out there. Squirrel 😊
Great discussion! We drove ours for a 2years without any mods. But if you are going over rocks, then the want list starts looking like a need list. Great video Mike!
I can confirm your number are right on the dot👍i went with a very low milage jku and built it as a very capable rig. Regear, locker, chromemoly axle, new berings all around , rtt , arb fridge 270 awning, stoptech brake, rear seat delete and so much more , enjoy every trip i made so much 😊
This is a great introduction to the Overland World !!
Thanks for this video, it will go a long way towards planning my trip into Namibia soon. Already secured a great 80 series for the job! :-)
Hey Mikey I, liked it, I liked it a lot. A good breakdown of the essential and the optional.
Let's say I, spent a lot on the rig and the kit, but it's a lot of fun too. Cheers, Mate.
Thanks Michael
I'm a newbie i didn't know what overlanding was until i got my Tacoma and your videos showed up while i trying to learn more about my truck . You have opened my eyes to something i have wanted to do my hole life . I hope to meet you on some trail out in the middle of nowhere and have a beer or two with you
Awesome! That’s why I do it!
This was a really good cover-all for most people looking into getting into overlanding, I just started getting into this last December and since purchasing my 3rd Gen 4runner I've put quite a bit into recovery gear, and non essential items. $12k is a good starting point for a reliable rig. I spent only $2500 for mine though and I came to the conclusion that as long as I'm purchasing gear that's useful to me, or those with me and our safety I can justify it. Such as safety items/ recovery or even just maintenance. The rest I could do without, especially when I quickly found out how important it is to save space.
Thanks for the video i come from the Offroad world.
Alot of money could be saved with a welder and the correct steel.
I would Also say a snatch block or 2. To go with the winch. For that funky angle of recovery.
The hi-lift Jack should be essential so much you can do with them. But for your style it may not be needed like you said.
Great video. I appreciate your honesty and sharing your numbers!
Thanks for this, it helps a lot in my own build.
Michael, slick video and great points! 👍🏼 As I overland mostly solo in my ‘18 4Runner Off-Road, a lot of the gear that’s non-essential in a group/convoy becomes essential, especially self-recovery (so winch, TRED Pros, hi-lift jack, ON TOP of shovel, bottle jack, InReach Explorer+). Also, I would have included first aid kit, dual battery setup or NOCO Genius, and water purification solution (I use the awesome LifeStraw 20L jerry can). Thanks again for what you do and sharing your experience and wisdom! 🙏🏼🚙🏔🏜⛺️
Dammit...Im still camping in a 2008 Hyundai Tucson....2wd!!!
I appreciate the honest opinion on what is necessary
We bought a 4runner for 9500 bucks in so cal. With everything we've done and replaced and repaired we've spent over 30,000 dollars in three years. All we are missing is a snorkel lol we have a roof top tent etc.
Awesome video mate, it it can change so much on what gear you buy etc
Great content here, thanks for the upload.
Another Great video Mate! I do have to disagree on a couple of things, but it's mainly due to differences in location. In Australia a Snorkel is a necessity due to our dusty conditions (a Raised air intake is probably a better term) I did note you say at the fore front it does depend on each individuals type of Adventure & Vehicle, which is oh so true! I've gone from 4wding & having fun as a young bloke (lots of V8 Power in a short wheel base) to more "just the need to get away for the weekend in the one spot" type deal but also love & intend to do more touring (it might just be an age thing) so each person certainly has different needs/wants. I've recently bought myself a new truck to fit out for this & being a reasonable size vehicle, I'm building lots of Aluminum Stuff, Bull bar (which is pretty much is necessary in Oz) Brush bars with side steps (for the "old Fart") a roof rack for some light stuff & my awning, rear Tyre carrier etc etc, then I'll get to the interior. You can blow a lot of money on gear & in my case there isn't very much made for my truck in Oz. I am pretty fortunate though as I can build most things myself & yes, mine is also my daily. Thanks for the video that actually poses more questions for yourself, if you think about it! CHEERS!!
Great topic, Thanks for sharing!
Good video somethings I disagree and I get what you are saying depending on the person. As far as what NorthernEXpeditions comment I agree winch and farm jack it's a must self recovery is important. Being a retired US Army deployed in different countries and being a truck driver self recovery is important. Also undercarriage protection if you are going over rocks. Good job on the video.
Bull bar may be required depending on where you live and where you roam.. lots of deer near me, won't take that chance
Kangaroos in the billions here. First mod i did.
I am starting my build, first ORV build in 30yrs, starting with a 2006 Kia Sorrento. Yes a Sorrento 2wd no less, so I get to build basically everything from scratch or modified parts designed for som other much more supported vehicle. Nothing has less aftermarket support in North America than the Sorrento. Its going to be fun!
If you've ever experienced bulldust in Australia then a snorkle is absolutely esential, forget water crossings you need clean air going into the engine and the higher up your intake the better.
Great breakdown and explanation.
Great video. Very helpful and I've been at it a while already but am about to build vehicle #3 and each one keeps getting simpler!
Great video! Thanks
have not missed a video since i found this channel cant wait to start my own adventures hoping to buy a jeep soon
I would recommend getting a Toyota only in my experience especially if its going to be a daily driver. Thats just my opinion but ive seen some issues with jeeps that arent very fun to deal with especially when it comes to getting things repaired.
thom smisek that’s a great idea, what kind of Jeep are you looking for!
Anthony Nocita any make of car can have problems and be expensive to fix
@@Whiteandsonsgarage jeep cherokee so i want to put a 5 inch lift with long arm kit and 33s on it to start then bumpers and just continue from there as i go it will be my first build so ill be learning as well
thom smisek nice, good starting points, wouldn’t mind doing a Cherokee build one day
Well, it's all about how you look at things, some of us want the nice extras, it makes for a nicer trip. Of course, you don't need a lot of that stuff, and you don't need to go Overlanding either. But if you are going, why not go prepared, and semi-comfortable. It's smart to have options if you do get stuck, instead of just trying to improvise with a bottle jack. If I do get stuck, I wanna smile knowing I'm prepared. I wanna chuckle when that winch is pulling me out of that hole, instead of me having to stick my hands between rocks and my vehicle. I want that awning, instead of having to sit in my vehicle or under a tree to avoid the sun. You only live once, live it to the fullest. Like the song says, get busy living, or get busy dying. Your life, your choice.
Well done, Well covered 👍
16797 Here. I wheel a rather heavily modded Xterra with long travel kit aka Titan Swap. I built my rig mostly due to solo travel. If so a winch is a priority to me and sliders/skids. I think the essential gear to me is skids, sliders, winch (if solo more so or recovery points if not) and I would say 32" tires. I run 33's and I've went everywhere I've wanted. Yeah I may not get through rock gardens like a Jeep on 37's but I didn't build a crawler. I would also say it is necessary to have a tool kit and spare parts even more so if solo too. I run with a lot of groups and the amount of people who don't have any tools is quite high.
The beauty of overlanding\camping is you can have a set up with the bare essentials to the most extreme.
I purchased my first 80 series LC 2 years ago and am trying “trying” to ensure I don’t spend more on equipment than the purchase price of the vehicle, the best cost me $4900 Australian.
For my actual needs at this stage lockers are not required, neither are rock sliders or a winch or even a fridge for that matter
For my type of camping\overlanding I have found what I need and travel with people who have most of the gear anyhow
Hey Michael, you such a good job on your videos. Btw, I bought my 91 Fj 80 for $1,200 a couple of years ago. So by my estimation I can quickly dive into that "non-essential" category and go wild. I did the OB membership first thing.
Really great video! I'm setting up my own fzj80 over here in Australia for my big trip in a few years. May I ask what figures you return in fuel economy for the 1fz and the auto transmission? Cheers Adam
Speaking of essential and none essential 2020 covid-19 cough!
Great rig man that is one hooked up kit! Super jelly
I’m one hundred percent getting that bottle opener for my 76 series!
I miss the skid plates for underbody protection. I rate this higher than rock sliders and is about the same price.
I think some sort of brush guard (brush guard, bull guard, bull bar, push bar ect same thing, different names.) is essential. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen people destroy there radiator when barely/accidentally hitting a boulder/tree. Then getting stranded. The brush guard helps a LOT.
currently running 285/75r16s BFG ATs, might honestly go with the 315 KM2s next time around, i here good things.
As long as I have a shell on the back ofy truck I'm good to go!✌🏼💸☮️
There is one other essential that was not mentioned: One (or two) 4-legged co=pilots!
Very good.
Thanks
Everything a city boy needs for over landing essential fuel cans, tires lift and rooftop tent on a delux rack
Most manufacturers of the trucks put a lot of thought into the air intake system on their off-roaders. My then-stock 1991 Ford Explorer had no issues with water crossings that were at least 1/3 above the bottom of the door.
Great video!
Excellent info needs to be told...👍👍
Lake Havasu-🔥
I have a 1972 international scout ii that I got for pretty cheap that I'm thinking to turn into an overland vehicle.
Thank you for the informative video. I have now to contemplate if I should restore my 1996 LC80 that I bought for $2,000, or buy a Taco for overlanding? I think that I will buy the Taco: I know what I'm getting and not worry about everything else. Again, thank you.
Good info!
Great video. How many miles did the 1996 FZJ80 have when you bought it? Any mileage you would recommend staying below ? Thank you!
Love the video, especially that guitar bit you use. What's that called?
its funny in Australia almost everyone would agree that bullbar and snorkel are essential. rock sliders not so much, just gotta drive more carefully or care less haha
Hmmm... I think the rear locker is important. My current rig came with a rear locker and from now on its my first mod.
HAHA, yes, completely agree with all the required and optional toys and tools. And also highly agree that your gear will differ based on the adventures you will get yourself into.
But your maintenance, holy cow, must be the premium you pay for that Toyota badge. I drive a Suburban, its my daily driver, weekend warrior and adventure mobile and have spent less than $1,000 on all the repairs over last 6 years and 190k miles, solid 50k miles off the pavement. That included two spur of the moment drives to Alaska.
I have a good one for you, how would you kit out if you are currently in college / recently graduated, and just want to get away for 3-5 day trips every few months in your daily? How would your required items change? It would be cool to see, because overlanding can get expensive really quick!
Great video with great information. Where in the Sierra's was this?
Very useful. Thanks. Were the accessories priced as received or installed?
An excellent comparable used car can probably be bought and maintained for the comparable items for around $2500 per year so you are spending an additional $2.5k per year plus probably double fuel costs and maintenance time to get away. Seems reasonable for a younger person with stamina. Not flexible though, mostly sunk costs. Can't skip it to save $ and go to Hawaii for 2 weeks every third year.
I rent a 4x4 pickup and make due with the gear and routes available. Much different accessibility, but for a older guy who sometimes falls skiing, hurts his shoulder (yep) and must skip an entire camping season, flexibility is useful.
Hear him! Hear him! Spot on. Overlanding does not require all of the extra bolt-on bling. I get along just fine with a leveling kit and 33" bfg all terrains just fine on my '13 JKU. No roof rack, no winch, ground tent, folding chairs, folding table, plastic toolboxes from Home Depot for cooking supplies, single burner propane stove, and folding crates from Costco to hold all the extraneous stuff. Yes, that stuff is nice to have. But it also leads to some folks wondering if overlanding is elitist. The only thing he missed is a cocktail shaker for making your martini at the end of a long day on the trail (okay, maybe that is a little elitist but some things are just worth doing well ;-)
The majority of the stuff he spent thousands on the normal person could find for 1/4th the price. Like $950+ dollars on 2inches of lift?! Come on now....the OME struts and springs are not worth almost $1,000 lol.
Thinking about doing a first gen tacoma overland build, any thoughts on what the essentials would be?
Bro I guess the most important overland thing is that esencial bottle opener lol thx for sharing bro nice video
Foresty Forest went up to the tip of the arctic circle with a 2wd chevy uplander. sure he had to wait an hour when he fell in a ditch for someone to pull him out but even 4x4 isn't necessary. Very different style of overlanding though, he doesn't do any scrambling. He uses his feet for that!
Just bought a truck. Always wanted to explore and go on adventure. I just got my rims and tires and continue to keep building on it.
Will I ever go overlanding?
Idk but I would like to. So I'm building a overlander but it is also my daily commute vehicle.
I'm building a 1995 ram 4x4 short bed , single cab ,on 33s ,
camper shell . It's an awsome ,tough truck .
If you're mechanically inclined and get a local welder to do the none essential stuff (bumpers, sliders, etc) you can have the same thing for under $12k. I bought an '01 Toyota Sequoia for $3K, did the lift myself for $600, major maintenance myself for another $1200, found a local welder that did sliders and front bumper for $800, 35" Falken MTs were $900, Smittybilt X20 12k synthetic line winch for $500, regeared to 4.88s for $600. I'm about to throw in a rear locker for $500... Front locker will be the same-ish. So far I'm about $8k in. I'll eventually spend the money for a Gobi rack and rear bumper (with local welder I think the two will be $2500ish)... And that would have me with basically the same build as this LC. It doesn't have a solid axle, but I could spend another $2500 and swap one in. The 2UZ-FE 4.7 V8 in the Sequoia is far and away a better motor and with all that I'd still be sitting around $15k.
Sorry, but I don't understand this cult of scaring newbies off with high price tags when they could get into it for so much cheaper.
Hi-Lift jack IS essential! You can not change a tire (wheel really...) on a lifted vehicle with an OEM jack! Do you have to have a lift? No. Are there other jacks that works better than an OEM? Yes. But all around a high lifting, sturdy and Off-Road capable/useable jack is a MUST! Most OEM equipment are marginal at best and that's on a road, not outside in the dirt...
Because recovery gear is mandatory I'd say if you were just starting to buy it I'd start with a good brand of recovery boards (maxttaxs or Tred). They are relatively cheap comparatively, easy to use, very helpful especially without lockers, and less dangerous than some other recovery options. So yes, maxtraxs are mandatory.
I also believe a rear locker comes before sliders. I've seen plenty of people in all types of rigs get stuck in potentially super easy to get unstuck of situations with a push of a button. Sometimes a little bit of mud or snow at a weird offcamber uphill angle can cause a lot of headache without a locker.
I paid $8000 for my 89 suburban 1500 4x4 a few days ago, I’m thinking my first upgrades will be rock sliders. Any recommendations
Have you settled on using the KM3 ? Or changed?
Look for budget options! For rock sliders you don’t need to spend $1200. You can get kits for about $150 and have a local welder put them together for about another $150. Look up 4Xinnovations.
@Overland bound. What a view, (beginning of video) happen to have coordinates to that location?
That is corral hollow trail just West of Bear Valley, CA
Good video what is the brand of those sliders
Very nice. What year is your Landcruiser?
Thanks.
Hello sir from were you get those rock sliders?
...and let's not forget the P220...optional, but very nice to have along......
Dude, what is that pop up toilet he showed for a split second?
Here I'm looking at power wagons... Might be a bit over kill?
You don't need Maxtraxx no, but you do need recovery tracks, worth their weight in gold and XBULL ones are $70 delivered, 4 years of use and still going strong.
Do u know where i can find used overland used gear
4xinnovations has rock sliders for like $300. I love mine!
Yes - slider cost vary greatly. Mine incorporates armor underneath as well.