Completely agree with your comments about “ easy to build” models. I follow many Golden Demon winners who always trim the pegs on such models and they go together much easier without risking bending the details.
"Dialing things back to Shadespire" is the vibe I'd been getting too, and I'm glad to see it TBH, for the reasons you mention. Can't wait to get my mitts on the game!
that's the best advertisement for the game I've heard yet. Things just snowballed out of control over time but shadespire was the best game design I've ever seen GW do.
If you take the time shaving the pegs of the models (I even shave a little bit of the end in each peg) you can really minimize the cracks visible, yes is a pain and you have to be careful not to shave too much but it's worth it
Well I'm definitely glad that we were all wrong about them dropping underworlds and that they're going on with a revised system. I do like the way that the cards are set up but I like it the way it's got one board and I just hope that they release a set of like multiple boards that way you're not stuck with the two that you have in the game but I do like the larger hexagonal shaped single board. And by the way gentleman thank you too for all that you do to put up the great podcast that you do it's definitely the highlight when I get to see a new one that you posted . Cheers
I dread that gap in the shoulder pads so I clip the pegs a few mm before gluing. I'm interested to see where I land on the continuum between warband-lost-flavour and streamlined-game-is-better!
Really liking the look of this edition, as I have been away from the game for years, but I am getting this as it will revitalise my old collection (especially with just picking a faction and a rival deck and off you go). One question though, concerning the new boards, does this mean that we basically bin our collection of boards from previous sets, or can they still be used?
Unofficially you could probably work something out with your mates in casual settings. But any club nights and especially tournaments it’s a no. Were going to have a bonfire with ours 😄
@@AgentsofSigmar I will be doing the same with the large collection of cards too 🤣 Looking forward to GW putting the warband cards and warscrolls up for download (which I guess will be on the release date), so I can see what my collection will be looking like going forward. Lots of printing and sleeving to do for those 😉
They could change the crits and adjust other significant rules without nuking the uniqueness of each individual character and without removing warband specific cards.
I suspect a large part of the reason for the reset was to reduce the overhead all that uniqueness created by a factor to ensure the game remained manageable, they’re not going to change things if what they’re doing is working are they
Thanks for the video. Your most intriguing observation is the judicious gaining of glory in this edition. I do prefer tighter games where victory points are challenging to score.
Great break down guys! How would you split the box? That's my main issue, as me and a friend don't want to get x2 copies however with the x4 decks and a single board is pushing us that way but with the Lizardmen and other decks being availible soon i wonder if theres another way around it?
you talked me into getting it! I have tons of old warbands and im sure will be able to buy new cards for them? Also, I don't care for deck building and like I can play and just use prebuilt decks.
Great video guys! Need some advice. I have bought everything since Shadespire except for the warbands that were created with AOS figures I already had, it felt kind of crappy that I had to rebuy the minis I had to just get the cards. I have invested in card sleeves for every card, binders and holders for every card. 3d printed holders for every warband and storing all of this has gotten to be a chore. Now I find out that none of the boards and cards are compatible anymore. Is that true? I think I am done with underworlds. As good as this version looks I feel a bit put off for being a loyal customer and buying almost everything since the beginning only to be told nah, throw that stuff out, here is what you can only use now. How do the old minis work with the new edition? Where do you get new player cards and decks for them? Is GW planning on making me buy the minis again to get the cards? I am so lost and need and list of what is out, what is in and what is coming in the future before I jump in.
We may well do video on this but the short answer is. All the models should be useable in the new version but all the old cards and boards are now redundant. All warbands will have single-sided "Warscrolls" that will replace faction decks. Only 33 of these in the first instance will be tournament legal but GW have said that most of them will be downloadable. Decks moving forward are all universal cards. For deck building in the Nemesis format you'll be able to combine 2 rivals decks and pair them with any warband.
Question: How does the new board compare with the Bladeborn board, size and hexcount-wise? Thinking of playing on the BB board as an alternative while on the fence. I know there are no starting hexes, but I can always designate those. Thanks in advance! :)
I can't 100% remember but I think you'd be just as well playing with 2 existing UW boards placed square on. Especially if you pick 2 with minimal features and call lethal hexes stagger hexes.
We never sleeve a single card, because card sleeves aren’t necessary it’s all a con and you’ve been lied to all this time. Unless it’s for a tournament…
@@AgentsofSigmar Playing with unsleeved cards is insane. When sleeves get too worn out, you can just replace them. You can't really do the same thing with cards. Also, sleeved cards are far easier to mash shuffle and pick up from the table.
@@lastburning I think you need a better dictionary. I've just chucked out 7 years worth of cards. Imagine if I'd sleeved them all how long it would have taken to do that? And what an utter waste of time it would have been. Nothing in the cycle lasts long enough to warrant protecting the cards in plastic. We do use sleeves for tournaments to make sure everything looks the same.
@@AgentsofSigmar why did you throw out 7 years of cards? Are you never going to play Underworlds legacy? I have the complete set now to play whenever I want.. including with my grand kids in years to come 😁
I've kept some, so I exaggerated for effect. Still an awful lot of cards though. But no, I'll probably never play the old edition again. In the same way as I've never played WFB 3rd edition despite being all in many moons ago.
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Great video guys! I agree whole heartedly about it feeling like an old friend. Great analogy :)
So happy to hear all the positive things about this new edition so far. Excited to see your guys’ games to really get a feel for it!
We’ll be live Tuesday! Come join us! 😄
NGL Iam gonna miss these two boards they always felt original to me
Completely agree with your comments about “ easy to build” models. I follow many Golden Demon winners who always trim the pegs on such models and they go together much easier without risking bending the details.
It’s such a shame because they only need to reduce the peg size fractionally and it would be perfect
The seemingly garish colours really had put me off so far but having confirmed that they are more muted in reality sounds really good to me.
Having played with both versions today, I think on balance I prefer the new card backs.
"Dialing things back to Shadespire" is the vibe I'd been getting too, and I'm glad to see it TBH, for the reasons you mention. Can't wait to get my mitts on the game!
that's the best advertisement for the game I've heard yet. Things just snowballed out of control over time but shadespire was the best game design I've ever seen GW do.
@@merijnreerink1799 Yeah, "Shadespire redux but with 7 years' experience writing rules for the system" sounds really really good.
I definitely think I like the idea of having a single large board as opposed to smaller boards that people could try to manipulate to Advantage.
If you take the time shaving the pegs of the models (I even shave a little bit of the end in each peg) you can really minimize the cracks visible, yes is a pain and you have to be careful not to shave too much but it's worth it
That’s what I (Pete) usually do, it’s one instance of GWs incredibly accurate model design biting them in the arse
I just nip them off and use glue.
@@edwardmills4164 Same here, though I go a bit back and forth between methods
Well I'm definitely glad that we were all wrong about them dropping underworlds and that they're going on with a revised system. I do like the way that the cards are set up but I like it the way it's got one board and I just hope that they release a set of like multiple boards that way you're not stuck with the two that you have in the game but I do like the larger hexagonal shaped single board. And by the way gentleman thank you too for all that you do to put up the great podcast that you do it's definitely the highlight when I get to see a new one that you posted . Cheers
Glad you liked it dude 😊
The winter maw boards looked the best, the finish on those boards and tokens were the best!
Looking forward for gameplay!
I dread that gap in the shoulder pads so I clip the pegs a few mm before gluing. I'm interested to see where I land on the continuum between warband-lost-flavour and streamlined-game-is-better!
It’s a delicate balance. For us it’s definitely a winner but for some others, not so much I suspect.
Agree about the art on the cards. It's a bonus being able to identify the models when they are similar plus you get some painting tips!
Sounds like you are enjoying it :)
Definitely so far it’s been great fun
Does that mean all my older boards are now useless?
And cards. Models are still valid though. But you can always keep it all and keep playing v1 with whoever wants to
I’m excited to get my hands on this! Do the decks have just the exact amount of cards you need or are there extras for some additional choices?
Each of the four rival deck is a full deck of 32 cards, but then for nemesis you can combine any two
I started watching the unboxing and got the answer there as well. Thank you!
@@Gdad_Cliff you are welcome 😁
I end up cutting the push fit pegs off half the time, much better fit.
Do you have to use push fit or can you cut off the pegs and just glue them? Would that help with the seams?
you don't have to for most parts they line up pretty well on their own really.
Can you guys advise on the warscroll size? And do you know if there are sleeves out there that will fit them? Thanks
We’re buying these ones to try mtlsleeves.com/collections/newest-sleeves/products/toswh-105x148-mm-50pcs-thick-board-games-card-sleeves
Really liking the look of this edition, as I have been away from the game for years, but I am getting this as it will revitalise my old collection (especially with just picking a faction and a rival deck and off you go). One question though, concerning the new boards, does this mean that we basically bin our collection of boards from previous sets, or can they still be used?
Unofficially you could probably work something out with your mates in casual settings. But any club nights and especially tournaments it’s a no. Were going to have a bonfire with ours 😄
@@AgentsofSigmar I will be doing the same with the large collection of cards too 🤣 Looking forward to GW putting the warband cards and warscrolls up for download (which I guess will be on the release date), so I can see what my collection will be looking like going forward. Lots of printing and sleeving to do for those 😉
us too!
I cut all the pegs off my push fit models and glue them. I hate push fit to be honest 🤬
I mentioned elsewhere. They only need to make the legs a small fraction thinner and it’d be perfect 😫
They could change the crits and adjust other significant rules without nuking the uniqueness of each individual character and without removing warband specific cards.
I suspect a large part of the reason for the reset was to reduce the overhead all that uniqueness created by a factor to ensure the game remained manageable, they’re not going to change things if what they’re doing is working are they
I find, usually most of the time, you wanna snip those pegs. Big gaps the pegs need snipping for sure! Always next time 🎉
Thanks for the video. Your most intriguing observation is the judicious gaining of glory in this edition. I do prefer tighter games where victory points are challenging to score.
It could be the early decks and our lack of nemesis play so far but it feels less willy nilly with the glory gaining
Does the rulebook have rules for multiplayer?
Nope they removed that but did say in a recent article they are working on alternative play modes one of which included multiplayer
Great break down guys!
How would you split the box? That's my main issue, as me and a friend don't want to get x2 copies however with the x4 decks and a single board is pushing us that way but with the Lizardmen and other decks being availible soon i wonder if theres another way around it?
I can’t see a way unfortunately if you ever plan on playing other people
you talked me into getting it! I have tons of old warbands and im sure will be able to buy new cards for them? Also, I don't care for deck building and like I can play and just use prebuilt decks.
Depending on the warband there’s either free PDFs already online or they’ll be coming out in a few weeks hopefully 🤞
Great video guys! Need some advice. I have bought everything since Shadespire except for the warbands that were created with AOS figures I already had, it felt kind of crappy that I had to rebuy the minis I had to just get the cards. I have invested in card sleeves for every card, binders and holders for every card. 3d printed holders for every warband and storing all of this has gotten to be a chore. Now I find out that none of the boards and cards are compatible anymore. Is that true? I think I am done with underworlds. As good as this version looks I feel a bit put off for being a loyal customer and buying almost everything since the beginning only to be told nah, throw that stuff out, here is what you can only use now. How do the old minis work with the new edition? Where do you get new player cards and decks for them? Is GW planning on making me buy the minis again to get the cards? I am so lost and need and list of what is out, what is in and what is coming in the future before I jump in.
We may well do video on this but the short answer is.
All the models should be useable in the new version but all the old cards and boards are now redundant.
All warbands will have single-sided "Warscrolls" that will replace faction decks. Only 33 of these in the first instance will be tournament legal but GW have said that most of them will be downloadable.
Decks moving forward are all universal cards. For deck building in the Nemesis format you'll be able to combine 2 rivals decks and pair them with any warband.
@AgentsofSigmar Thank you for some clarification.
Great video guys! 👍😊
Thank you 🤗
Question: How does the new board compare with the Bladeborn board, size and hexcount-wise?
Thinking of playing on the BB board as an alternative while on the fence. I know there are no starting hexes, but I can always designate those. Thanks in advance! :)
I can't 100% remember but I think you'd be just as well playing with 2 existing UW boards placed square on. Especially if you pick 2 with minimal features and call lethal hexes stagger hexes.
Ah, makes sense. Might as well make use of them while I can. Thank you! Appreciate all you do for this community. 😊
Stop touching those cards without sleeves!!!!!
We never sleeve a single card, because card sleeves aren’t necessary it’s all a con and you’ve been lied to all this time. Unless it’s for a tournament…
@@AgentsofSigmar Playing with unsleeved cards is insane. When sleeves get too worn out, you can just replace them. You can't really do the same thing with cards. Also, sleeved cards are far easier to mash shuffle and pick up from the table.
@@lastburning I think you need a better dictionary. I've just chucked out 7 years worth of cards. Imagine if I'd sleeved them all how long it would have taken to do that? And what an utter waste of time it would have been.
Nothing in the cycle lasts long enough to warrant protecting the cards in plastic.
We do use sleeves for tournaments to make sure everything looks the same.
@@AgentsofSigmar why did you throw out 7 years of cards? Are you never going to play Underworlds legacy? I have the complete set now to play whenever I want.. including with my grand kids in years to come 😁
I've kept some, so I exaggerated for effect. Still an awful lot of cards though. But no, I'll probably never play the old edition again. In the same way as I've never played WFB 3rd edition despite being all in many moons ago.
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