Why "Here's Not Here" Is the Most Controversial Episode of TWD
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With the way Season 6 was going, it was shaping up to be one of the greatest, if not the greatest season opening in the history of the show. The first three episodes are some of the highest-rated episodes of the entire show. We left off the third episode “Thank you” with quite possibly a major character death, but there were a lot of questions floating around the internet.
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This episode is really only hurt by its placement in the overall pacing because other than that it is beautiful and touching
Honestly. Something that could've been fixed probably with just making it episode 5
Yes but on a binge I recommend skipping from “Clear” straight to this episode. It makes it such a better episode. My favorite episode in the whole series.
@@SmallChild69 Wow, that's a good idea
Yeah they pulled a South Park and people were pissed.
I think this creator has even said that before. It should have probably been like Here's Negan and been at the end of the season. Or even has someone else here said, probably just an episode or 2 later wouldn't have been as bad, just bad placement for a great episode
Fun fact: the actor who played Eastman appeared in a film in 2000 called "Walking The Dead" and as far as I can tell is the only actor in history to appear in The Walking Dead AND Walking The Dead 😂
If only he was in “The Dead Walking”
@@themoongateofficial and "dead walking the"
@@themoongateofficial Scott Wilson, who played Herschel, was in Dead Man Walking.
Don't Dead Open Inside
John Carroll Lynch this great he also play one of the Zodiac Killer suspects in zodiac
RIP Tabitha gone but never forgotten 😔
Yup poor Tabitha
Brou.. that still hurts 😢
Beeeeh 😢😢
i stopped watching after she died
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i hated this episode when i first watched it. simply because it switched away from our main group. looking back i think this episode was beautiful for giving morgan a complete arc, it gave us so many callbacks and revelations to other moments, i feel it was overshadowed simply because of the timing of its release. looking back, i actually would say it’s within my top ten favourite episodes simply for its justice to morgan.
Couldn't have agreed more, I hated this episode on my first watch. But then I rewatched the series again and I actually really liked the episode.
@@Deviiinn i never hated it i just was so annoyed watching it cause i was hyped to see what was happening with everything else.
It’s a good episode in a vacuum, but it’s bad in the context of the entirety of the franchise considering they retread the EXACT same arc for Morgan a dozen more times over the course of TWD and FTWD
Morgan is the worst thing that happened to the people of alexandrea.. he cost a lot of deaths with his b/s
I remember my dad and I watching this and quickly realizing it wouldn't answer glen's situation, my whole family watched all of "Lost" together as a regular family night thing so we were totally used to this lol. I was honestly so excited to see Morgan's story and how he changed, how he learned from Eastman. I get people's annoyance but I always liked Morgan so ANYTHING about him at the time I was totally up for.
I didn’t get into Lost until years later but I’ve watched that like 3-4 times now. I freaking love that show. Even season 6 was alright so so ish 😂
yesss, same here
This was probably one of the most touching episodes in the series for me. I know people won't agree, but I kinda like the slow down from the whole action packed Alexandria plot. It felt like a breather to watch it. It was emotional, touching, meaningful and beatiful. It not only contributed to the lore of Morgan, but it felt actually really touching to me in real life, I felt at peace watching it. :)
It's actually a popular episode.
Idk why the content creator tried to pose it as controversial.
I loved the episode as well.
@@doggolovescheese1310it’s more popular now but I think it was considered controversial at the time so Thrifty’s not wrong. You’ve gotta remember that during a live viewing of the walking dead, you got one episode per week and every 8 episodes, they’d break for like 4 months until the next 8. If you watched this live during the sheer insanity of what was happening at Alexandria at the time it may have felt a bit underwhelming given you had to wait a week for the next one.
Personally though, I loved this episode when it released and still do, it’s got a beautiful mini story to follow even if it was a diversion from the action at Alexandria. I can just see why some people were disappointed and I totally agree with Thrifty’s conclusion that it was controversial at the time.
Easily one of the best scores of all the Walking Dead. The music not only fits perfectly for the theme and tone of the episode, but in general its one of the few walking dead episodes that still makes me burst into tears. I also like the perspective from this episode. So often in zombie apocalypse media characters almost always choose to kill others who have wrong them, where as here Morgan chose the path of peace. Hell, Aikido basically states to never kill anyone, no matter how evil they are, which in the apocalypse is a pretty ballsy move since everything and everyone could and would kill you
The music was so peaceful. It set this epi apart.
This episode is one of my favorites in the entire series. I love Morgans Story and his struggle, Eastman was absolutely fantastic and his story heartbreaking.
I just couldn't stand this episode bc of its placing in the narration! It was not until my second watchthrough being binging twd with my bf, I got aware how great it actually is.
Yeah I feel like that was what everyone (myself included) felt the first time around. But as time goes by this has become one of my favorite episodes.
Same I was so bored the first time watching and checked out halfway through but the second time I really liked it
idk why but i always liked this episode just bc morgan is amazing
@@LerchStudios likewise
Bloody hell, that username 😂 English by any chance? 😂
I had no idea this episode was hated by some, this episode is probably my favorite or at least top 3 favorite episodes of the series. I loved seeing how Morgan went from being crazy and lost to how he was then. Morgan is probably my favorite character in the series, I was completely okay with this episode being cut off from the rest of the series and appreciated it being longer than most episodes.
My thought for the group's Crighton Dallas was Alpha. The Governor seemed like a normal guy with a wife and daughter before the apocalypse but Alpha seemed like she was pretty bad even early on. That being said, I don't think there is meant to be one specific person necessarily. If anything I feel like it more so suggests that the vast majority of bad people aren't truly evil like you mentioned.
Eastman is in my top 15 of the entire show which is kinda crazy considering how much hes in. Goes to show how great of a character he really was.
Whenever i hear people talk about this ep nobody mentions Eastman so this makes me happy
i think i was so used to the weird pacing twd had adopted at this point that i actually managed to really enjoy this episode for what it was. it’s a beautiful story neatly wrapped up like a short film.
what annoys me about it in hindsight is the fact they made morgan flipflop a bunch of times after this. it makes sense because if you care about people in the world of twd, you’re going to have to partake in violence to protect your people. i just feel like it could’ve been done better
I mean, Morgan is still flip flopping to this day on Fear. Such inconsistent writers.
I actually liked this episode when it came out. Yeah it broke away from our main story, but it was still interesting. Granted, I was like 11 when the episode came out, and I loved the show with my whole heart and soul so nothing could disappoint me. Looking back now, I still love the episode. It’s so well made and Eastman is still one of my favorite one-time characters out of the whole TWD universe. We got a few callbacks to Eastman throughout Fear once Morgan became the lead, and every single time it made me happy
The ‘Here’s not Here’ episode is one of my favourite episodes of all time, just like the first ever episode of season 1. It had me hooked and I could relate to the character. What Morgan said in fear the walking dead season 4 “I lose people, and then I lose myself” really hit me because as humans it’s the way of life, you lose people and then you lose a part of yourself because those people you lost, shaped who you are as a person. Morgan lost his wife and his son and that drove him to insanity, well not fully insane. It’s one of the most heartbreaking episodes of the series.
I didn't mind this episode too much when it aired, but it definitely broke pacing, especially when everyone was tense after 'Thank You.' I went back and rewatched it several times and it is definitely up there with one of my favorite TWD episodes ever. Morgan is a great character and explaining his time since 3:12 Clear was such a welcome. RIP to Eastman and Tabitha the goat. She was a real one.
Love your channel so much! Keep up the good work. It makes me happy to relive my nostalgia for TWD.
I've been so excited for you to do a video on this episode! Morgan is one of my favourite characters in the whole series and I was so happy to see such a chill, deep, dialogue heavy episode explaining his journey. Here's Not Here is a super underrated episode. Love your content, keep up the good work!
when i first watched this episode and eastman took the wallet to write the names on the graves, it was refreshing to see someone remember that the walkers used to be people too, just like them but unfortunately didn’t survive the apocalypse. he reminded me a lot of hershel, just a genuinely good person that got stuck in this awful situation. morgan’s always been one of my favourite characters and seeing how he becomes comfortable with another person was so nice.
I was definitely mad about this episode taking a left turn in season 6. But once season 6 wrapped and i gave it a rewatch i can honesty say its one of my top 5 episodes. Its so well written, Morgan and Eastman are such great characters. This episode also inspired me to start studying Aikido, The Art of Peace, like the characters.
I've always loved this episode. It was such a nice break from the action and such a peaceful episode, and Eastman was such a great character. Seeing Morgan finally overcome his demons was so satisfying.
I think "here's not here" means that a place is just a place, and our memories, especially painful ones, are what make a place feel like somewhere else, you just have to get out of your head and separate what you see from what you feel.
Top 10-15 best episode in the entire series. EXTREMELY overlooked and underrated. Eastman is such an incredible character and Morgan getting some depth was necessary ❤
My dad and I watched the entire show together and this episode is likely both of our favorites
Another awesome analysis video dude 🤘🔥, even though I haven't really seen any of TWD episodes past Season 1 watching these analysis videos are still really good
I still can’t believe that! 😂 But I’m glad you enjoy them!
@@thethriftytypewriter nah it's true I haven't seen any TWD episodes past season 1 and I haven't even read the comics my only connection to TWD is the Telltale video games I love those games 😂😂🔥🔥
Just like a lot of season 7 and 8, this episode is kind of a pace breaker for the season. Really annoying when I watched it week by week, but one of my favorite episodes in a vacuum
This episode made me cry and really spoke to me on my first viewing. In fact, I thought it was so good that I even forgot about the action that happened in the previous one. Definitely a surprise but a welcome one
I started watching WD at season 9, so all this drama y’all when through watching it while it was available made it a completely different experience from me. I loved this episode, it was one of the most heart wrenching episodes to top heart wrenching episodes.
I think Beta is a potential true evil. Sure he seems to care about Alpha, but he doesn't seem to have any sympathy
Beta was broken. Before the outbreak he was a completely different person but the death of his "friend" changed him and he was also influenced by the Alpha.
Alpha is true evil, Beta is broken and just wanted to be left alone until she manipulated him.
Personally, this was one of my favorite episodes ever. It was so touching to me, even though I'm the type of guy to not show emotion. The only thing that hurt it was its placement.
they did the same in fear the walking dead with john, and to be honest, i think it fits perfectly
Here after the Fear mid-season finale. The best bottle episode besides Here’s Negan. Man, what a character - he will be missed dearly. Hopefully we can get a reunion with Rick in the spinoffs, even if it’s as little as one scene. We need that small bit of closure I feel.
I'm a week late, but I'm so glad you finally covered this one, I've been quietly waiting for it since I found your channel. I'm one of the people who thinks this is the best episode of TWD, and its my favorite overall episode as well. Morgan is such a great character, probably my 2nd favorite in the franchise behind Rick himself. What a shame where he's ended up on FTWD. Great video!
One of my favorite channels, whenever I see a new vid I watch. Very engaging and consistent content
I recently binged the whole show and absolutely loved this episode, I totally understand why it wasnt appreciated when it was first released tho. But looking back at it it's such a touching story and one of the most philosophical episodes in my opinion. I really like how Eastman says to Morgan that the door in the cell had been open the whole time, referring to an actual door but also symbolising that the metaphorical cell Morgan was in was open as well, he just had to make the decision of moving past his pain and mistakes
Honestly felt like yellowjackets. They do thus all the time. For example on season 2, ep 4 iirc, where at the end it is implied that adult Taissa is going to seek out Van, and after waiting the whole first season and nearly half of the second we were about to find out if Van was still alive and then instead of following up from that immediately, and jumping forward to their potential reunion, Tai spent the entire episode -roughly spanning TWO DAYS- on the road, driving, WALKING and hitchhiking her way to Van. They kept us on edge the entire episode, thinking we woukd find out every time we saw Taissa, only for her to just change her mode of transport. She took someone's car and drove all night in a trance. Then when she ran out of gas she decided to WALK across the state. Then eventually she hitchhiked onto the world's slowest truck and when she finally got to where she was heading, the episode cuts after two lines. And infuriatingly the entire next episode we barely get any of the exposition we so sorely need. Like what happened to them? Why did they drift away? We only find out if Van is alive. I'm trying not to spoil anything so being as vague as possible but basically this was TORTURE. It wasnt just one filler episode until we found out if this main character was alive; it was one and a half seasons! 😭
Oml so happy to see a comment talking about yellowjackets.
It is such a good show @@ludoo6853
I really enjoyed this episode when it aired and going back I still thoroughly enjoy it. I’m all for back stories and character building and this episode nailed that.
This episode made me hate the fact that NOBODY WEARS ARMOR SO THEY DONT GET BIT SO MUCHHHH. It's so distracting when you think about it
Yeah but a lot of things they do get right if you think about it and put yourself in how you would even get a hold of armor or how you would make it? Not everybody knows how to make it or has the supplies to make it or has access to such things if you were truly living like this
I've been looking forward to this video from you! Here's not here is my favorite episode in the entire series. I am a buddhist (and a staff fighter actually) and this episode is a big part of that for me personally. Compassion for all beings in the face of overwhelming impermanence at all costs is Eastman's game and him getting Morgan in on it (even with some relapses later in the series) I think is a very beautiful thing to have living and breathing amongst the other characters in the show. Without Morgan preaching the preciousness of all life I think these seasons following this one; and this one too, would be missing a huge chunk of the moral debate which made these seasons so much fun to watch. Thanks as always from a regular lurker of your TWD content as a longtime fan of the show and childhood reader of the comics.
Not related to the video at all but I genuinely adore your outro song. It feels so nostalgic.
I am so hooked to your TWD episoded that's crazy !
Was so awesome to see John Carrol Lynch in TWD. Twisty from AHS is one of my all time fave horror characters
I always find myself coming back to this episode because it relates how a man can go crazy and redirect your actions and choices in life and where it gets you
easily in my top 3 fav episodes. loved every moment of this
i often walked in on my older brother watching the walking dead and chose to watch it with him, even though i didnt know the plot. i remember seeing this episode and one, appreciating that it was a contained plot and easier for me to understand, and two, just beautiful and entertaining overall and it was one of the reasons i started watching the walking dead when i was older and looking back on the parts of the show i had seen
You talking about the crighton dallas wilson metaphor for the TWD Villains is amazing. The ones who were too far gone or just needed a redemption
It's possible I will end up giving too much credit to the writers here however I have recently undergone cognitive processing therapy for PTSD and 3 of the major symptoms you look for in PTSD are 1. Dreams and flashbacks of the traumatic event. 2. Feeling like you're in the event again and 3. Having a physical response like you're in it again. (this can be a racing heart, sweaty palms or even behaving like you are) so ironically if Morgan IS having flashbacks to such a degree he's behaving like he's in the situation again telling himself "Here's not here" is a good thing. He's trying to remind himself he's not in that situation.
Fantastic video. made me appreciate this episode more
Also, he’s Norm Gundersen from Fargo
That's where I first saw him!
i watched this show for the first time when the show was long past this point, so i could binge watch this season easily, because of that the placement of this episode didnt bother me at all, and i could appreciate it for what it is, one of the best standalone episodes, and as someone who absolutely loved morgan for the tiny parts of the show he was in before he came to alexandria, i was happy to finally get an answer on how morgan was able to heal from Clear
The trend with alot of these older TWD episodes is that they work better in hindsight when you're binging the series, but at the time of release they totally ruined the pacing of the season and got tons of flak for it
I would say for Morgan, though I haven’t seen fear The Walking Dead, I would say just in the main walking dead show his Creighton Dallas Wilton was Jared because like Eastman someone he cared for was killed though not for the same reasons but after that happened. Jared was not punished really at all and Morgan wanted him to suffer clearly because he gave up all life is precious and kills him by holding him in place and letting him get his back and neck eaten by walkers. Just like Eastman tortured Creighton Dallas Wilton, by starving him to death Morgan kills him the somewhat Opposite Way, by getting him eaten. Perhaps a poor take but the theory if you would call it that I guess sounded good in my head.😂😂😂
Nah I like it! Didn’t think of it like that!
The guy who played Eastman in this episode is also in a great cult type movie called The Invitation, it's a really great movie.
Cant wait for your videos, Man. I fell in love with your content with the first video I saw for TWD. Keep The Walking Dead content because, I cant wait for your next TWD videos 🙏🙏🙏🧟♀🧟♂
I just watched this episode today. What an episode. The chills I got while listening to the story about Wilton. This episode is truly amazing
My experience of this episode is very different. When binge watching several intense episodes in a row (how I first viewed TWD) it was a welcome breather and change in pace. A chance to reflect. I forgot all about Alexandria for a minute.
this is genuinely one of my favourite episodes of the entire series, and luckily i didnt have to suffer with the weekly releases because i didnt start watching the show until all the way up to the end of the war with the saviours was already on netflix
I always thought Honor was the most controversial episode in my eyes. Especially after finishing the comics
Well tbh carl getting bitten was revealed in the previous episode, plus honor was an actually good episode
@@gamingnoah9807 saying that like this wasn't a good episode aswell.,
@@Greenhawk4 heres not here is a good episode i agree
i binge watched the show. i loved this ep. love your vids. i may not comment all the time, but I sure do watch them
I used to actually hate this episode skipping it every time I do my rewatch of the series, but after watching this analysis i have mad respect for the episode your breakdown of the episode was beautiful and i definitely love this episode for it's meaning and message.
Great analysis! I am in the camp of loving this episode. I really didn't' have a problem with the pacing of this one when I watched it live. However, I did get pissed at the next episode (Now) which I thought should have covered the Glen cliffhanger.
I put this list in a comment on the Community post you made about future videos that I would like to see. I wanted to put it here with some possible themes that you could do if you see fit. Obviously, you don't have to listen to me and you can do them however you want. I just wanted you to see why I picked these videos. I think they have themes that you could totally flesh out and make good videos on them. Regardless, whatever you do will be great I'm sure.
Season 2.1 (not sure about this one)
Season 2.3 Save the Last One (How the ep showed the beginning of Shane's downfall) or
(How the ep showed us that Shane could be a villain)
Season 3.1 (How the ep showed us that the group had adapted to the apocalypse)
Season 3.8 (Our first taste of war between two groups)
Season 3.15 This Sorrowful Life (How the ep turned Merle into a tragic character)
Season 3.16 (How the ep subverted audiences expectations).
Season 4.1 (How the ep set up the rest of season 4) or (How the ep reset the show) or (How the ep showed us that living in an apocalypse was possible).
Season 4.5 Internment (How the ep made Hershel into a hero)
Season 4.6-7 The Governor eps as one video (How the eps created sympathy for an evil character)
Season 5.03 Four Walls and a Roof (rick's darkest point?)
Bro u'r wrong about governor.
He is 50% broke, 50% pure evil. Dont forget about his wife and daughter death, that made him insane. And also dont forget about his nice relationship with tara's family
You’re absolutely right. The governor was a good man with a very very dark side lurking inside him all it took was a lawless world for him to break. I can see the governor being a normal suburban dad with a office job and a casual life but probably held lots of resentment and anger inside him and he didn’t let it come out until the world ended. The governor’s wife died in a car crash before the apocalypse but he still kept somewhat of his sanity probably for his daughter but once his daughter got bite he turned to the dark side when he realized he can act out his evil in a world with the police, no rules, no consequences, survival of the fittest.
This is one of my favorite episodes of the entire series
I adored this episode. Great video!
I remember when this episode aired, I was a bit disappointed that we weren't getting our questions answered. But, once I realized what it was, Morgan's backstory, I was excited to watch it. It still is one of my favorite episodes of TWD.
So i wouldnt say necessarily that the governor is evil but instead was someone created amidst the chaos. If you read the woodbury book it accurately shows his transformation from this incredibly timid guy to the man we see in the show and also the fact that in the books the governor isnt really phillip but instead adopted his brothers name to become who he was in order to survive because it him that got penny killed as well as his brother.
The governor is honestly one of the best descriptions of what people do in order to survive and lead others and honestly the governor is a mirror imagine of how rick started out as well.
it was filler. but i always LOVED this episode. Eastman's story about Crighton Dallas Wilton was so dark but DOPE to me #EASTMAN #TABITHA
Same here! And thanks again my dude!
This is one of my favourite episodes but I only kept up with S1-4 as they were airing, everything after that I was marathoning at leisure. If I'd have still been on the weekly episodes train at this point I'm pretty sure I would've viewed it less favourably on a first pass because of the cliffhanger, and that would've been a big shame, because this is such a special episode both of TWD and of television in general. I suspect I'm not alone in this, I was in therapy for PTSD when I first watched this and it's so well-informed, so many of the details are very specific stages of learning to live with and heal from trauma. It would've been easy for this episode to feel like a "treating PTSD 101" slideshow but the writing and acting lets it unfold in a way that feels so measured and organic. The "reveal" that the cage was never actually locked, the way our expectations can get set in stone by trauma to a point where it doesn't occur to us to even consider that things can be different and the way we interpret the world can change was such an elegant way of showing something profound and relevant to a hell of a lot of people. Eastman firmly insisting Morgan practice his new physical skills even when he's deep in re-living his trauma was a particularly powerful and nuanced moment.
It's awesome to see this episode getting the Thrifty Typewriter treatment and hope it inspires people to give it a re-watch and maybe view it a little more favourably. It deserves it.
I still don’t understand why it’s called “here’s not here” or what it means
@@mrsonaaaa5208 I can't claim to know how or why the writers chose the title specifically, other than it being something that Morgan says.
From a mental health point of view, if you're traumatised by something then encounter something that triggers a memory or flashback of it, your brain and body can go into a state that comes from the original trauma. Your thoughts, actions and behaviours in the moment may be heavily influenced by your PTSD, even if the situation you're in is completely different or a long time after the original event. Flashbacks may be so intense they distract you or make you feel like you're re-living it. In a very real mental sense, you're somewhere else.
"Here's not here" to me could be referencing the disorientation and fear of living in a dangerous world with unresolved trauma, as Morgan is at the start of the episode, but can become an affirmation when you're triggered or having flashbacks to remind yourself that even if you feel like you did in the original event, you aren't there any more and there is a real world still around you that you have some power in. But it's also very open to interpretation and part of why this episode is so fascinating and discussion-worthy.
This is easily In my top 3 episodes. 1 big thing I noticed when binging it compared to watching weekly is that the show flows so much better and makes it more enjoyable overall
That episode makes me teary-eyed every time 😅
The episode definitely breaks the mold. An hour long episode in middle of season is unconventional.
But it really is phenomenal. Eastman's character is incredibly unique and so emotionally powerful. Lynch crafted an unforgettable performance.
What I love about The Walking Dead is how it seems to reference classic genres (like westerns). This episode reminded me of some kungfu movie from the 70s or 80s. It is very philosophical in its approach and had a contrasting tone from most of the episodes. But it did fit because of the moral/logical/survival struggle that is so prevalent in the main characters.
I never got to watch any of this show as it was airing, I binged the whole thing a year after it ended. With that in mind, when I got to this episode I thought it was one of the best in the entire show. I was not only perfectly fine with having to wait an episode’s worth of time to get back to the main plot, but I was so interested in what changed Morgan that this was an episode I wanted to see for the last three seasons and didn’t know it
I love every minute of the 6th season of TWD, this episode is amazing, it shows us the journey of an incredible character like Morgan, it is thoughtful, directed to perfection, with excellent music and beautiful acting performances.
I love this episode. Great acting and great storytelling and it plays like a short movie. Where they wedged it into the season wasn't the best call but it doesn't take away from the episode
Eastman is the same actor who played Stan in Volcano 1997, the guy who saved the subway driver and died in the lava.
I actually stopped watching TWD years ago. But I did watch this season. And here’s not here is one of the few episodes I go back to rewatch. I love it
I love this episode, truly beautiful & saddening . Such a meaningful & amazing combo.. 10/10
The OST for this episode is just incredible
Also, one of my favorite moments encapsulating the dynamic between Morgan and Eastman when they’re first getting acquainted is when Eastman finally REVEALS to Morgan that his cell has been unlocked the whole time.
9:29 we loved watching this storyline the second and third time around. Loved to see him learning the old school way from Eastman - and I agree with the writing… his backstory sure did match up with a serial killer mindset. I was surprised that he died so soon… loved the psychological aspect of his story ❤😂😢
i have a huge urge to yell “THAT…is no true velaryon” whenever morgan is pissed, idk man…
Always a good day when i seen one of these in my feed.
Ive always loved this episode.
It's placement was predictable though, Gimple always sidetracks from the main story after about 3 episodes in the first half, then brings it back together for the midseason finale
I usually skip this episode in rewatches. it makes me SO sad, like it literally makes my heart hurt. it's great storytelling and character development, but it just makes me too sad lol. great video!!
I loved this episode when it first aired, and I still love it. In fact I can say that this episode is easily one of my very favorite in the entire series.
I LOVED this episode man. The whole vibe was amazing
This is one of the only episodes that had me tear up. I wish more people could appreciate this masterpiece of an episode
This was honestly one of my favorite episodes
Morgan going into that Vinland Saga mentality in this episode
I think you’re completely right about the governor being the true evil character in the show.
I love this episode, the writing and character interaction is up there with seasons 1 & 2, and I think it compliments season 6 really well. It's a shame that the only real reason to dislike this episode is that it interrupts the pacing of the season because that problem literally only existed for one week back in 2015. Looking back, it's really good that they took their time to thoroughly develop one of the most important and interesting characters currently in the show, and it only saddens me more that they basically gave up on Morgan as a character in season 8.
It's not like the pacing issue would even have been that bad if they didn't end the previous episode with Glenn "dying"
It’s disgusting how harsh people were on this episode. Eastman was a bit too good of a person, even for me but you need a polar opposite to yourself to show you the the other side.
Amazing episode
How is it disgusting people didn’t like filler put smack dap in the middle of one of the most intense season of the show? It should’ve been the premiere of season 6B or the second episode of season 6
Nobody can be "too good" of a person
It wasn't filler. It explained the backstory of a cannon character.
@@seldomsane5278that character should have been killed , he caused all those deaths at alexandrea from letting the leader go free, then let those 3 from the attack go free which messed up the rv so they followed rick home, Morgan is the worst character of the entire show
@@Chadius_Thundercock it wasn't filler lol
This is my favorite episode in the series with it giving important back story to a very dynamic character and it having one of the many aspects that would/could happen in an apocalyptic scenario. I think morgan has one of the more heart breaking stories out of the majority of the main chacters. And while i think it only has problems due to it's placement I can often see where people come from where they dont enjoy this episode. It's not an episode for everyone but it definitely does has it's place in the show.
This is my favorite episode of the series. It's actually my favorite episode of any series.
I went through a depression and was suicidal for most of my life. I went through life making one destructive decision after another because I didn't care if I lived or died. It took a long time and a lot of therapy to overcome my own self-destructive nature.
Like with Morgan's moral dilemma with the Wolves, every day can be a struggle for me and some days are better (or worse) than others. But what I loved most about this episode is that it showed us all what it means to be human. RIP Eastman
I love this episode. Maybe a misplaced bottle episode but even then I knew Glen wasn’t dead or they wouldn’t have made it a cliffhanger.
The soundtrack of this episode was so good
Watching Morgan looseinh his mind then finding peace was made this episode one of my favorite episodes
I always liked this episode. Eastman was a cool character. The fact that he makes an effort to make headstones for the walkers he eliminates from their wallets is oddly touching.
Exactly like I said on your villains video, the governor is the ONLY true evil villain.
You could say Saviors Jared and David and maybe Whisperer Alpha (depending on her relationship with Lydia) were the Crighton Dallas Wilton of the show, too.
I wish this episode had been placed right after his encounter with Rick and Michonne to explain what happened to him and leave open the possibility for him to come back.