World War Z is the perfect definition of a movie that exists. It was made, it was written, had actors that were given a paycheck and isn't really anything more than that.
@@Fazzbomb Oh no! I'm so sorry that somebody made fun of you poor Brits when it's not even CHEWSDAY hope it didn't make you choke on you BO'OLE O' WA'ER. Anyways, hope you can go back to living in your nation who's development and wealth is built entirely on the exploitation of your former colonies.
Come to think of it, I can’t think of a single zombie movie, show, or game where everybody boarded an airplane and then things went perfectly fine and they landed safely exactly where they wanted to go.
BTW, for anyone still sleeping on the book. Max Brook spent a _long_ time researching everything from disaster responses to pandemic planning to just regular household budgeting when planning his book. This lead to 1) his prediction of how the zombie plague originated and grew uncontrollably being scarily similar to the Covid 19 pandemic that came much later, and 2) a story written as if it's a collection of interviews from people all around the world of different backgrounds that each tell their story according to their experiences and perspectives. All in all, it's one of the most immersive piece of fiction you'll ever read.
My favorite part was when the entire planet knew they could climb and stack on top of eachother and yet Israel still decided to host an open-top concert surrounded by infected lmfao
I though it was just random people deciding to join in and sing, because random people doing stupid fucking things is very common. Of course, that wouldn’t explain why the soldiers didn’t just stop them.
@@thinkingboi9508 beyond even that, where are the bombs? Zombie movies always show soldiers uselessly shooting into hordes of undead, but rarely show missiles, bombs, grenades, *actually effective weapons against hordes of slow moving targets*. Hell, spraying napalm onto that tower trying to get over the wall would’ve solved it.
Fun fact: The audiobook for World War Z is read by a full cast of Hollywood actors and the soldier that survived Yonkers was read by Mark Hamill and he completely nails it. Yonkers really is one of the best chapters because, like you mentioned in the video, it’s conventional soldiers starting out ok against the zombies, but then you start to see how conventional problems start to cause the soldiers to fumble such as running out of ammo, the uselessness of air strikes, wasted and energy time digging fighting holes. Meanwhile movie like “hehe zombies that make pyramids go burrrr” which ironically enough, worked better in the world war z video game than it did the actual movie.
@@Aredel The zombies in the book were barely affected by shrapnel, and completely unaffected by SNT and the balloon effect of pressure waves vs living creatures, because the zombies had gelatinous blood and a basic nervous system. Thus the result was: high explosives and fragmentation warheads from the artillery and air strikes did next to nothing to a zombie wave that numbered in the tens of millions, and for some reason (probably political) they didn't mass deploy incendiaries during that battle. Predictably, this had an effect on troop morale. I highly recommend the audio book. They go into great detail to explain a serious take on a zombie apocalypse.
@@SpenzOT I can understand why basic fragmentation grenades wouldn't work, but a 500lb bomb doesn't leave behind much more than a vapor cloud within the effective blast radius. The pressure from the explosion is so high that it basically atomizes anything too close.
The effective blast radius was significantly smaller than normal due to the nature of the enemy, and even those zombies that were blasted apart, unless hit in the head, still came at the troops. The soldier mentioned that a severed had flew into his foxhole, and even though it was just a head, it was still trying to bite him. Check the book out. It explains the issues in great detail.
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 Were they supposed to fight over the trucks full of corpses? Yes in a crisis situation which the beginning of the pandemic was a lot of people panic and focus on what they consider their personal necessities. They weren't being attacked by mindless flesh devouring undead they were being told to stay home and keep travel to a minimum to keep themselves and others safe so their thought was "stock up on resources to hunker down" not "I sure hope Timmy learned about virology and epidemiology in 3rd grade otherwise the entire species is doomed to a violent and quick end at the hands of our reanimated loved ones and neighbors." There wasn't ever a TP shortage though, just people emptying on hand supply before the slowed logistics industry delivered already ordered and shipped product. I never saw any of that behavior in the metro I was living in during the peak.
The days after the war were so rough for our servicemen and women. I remember hearing stories about them getting off the plane and zombies waiting at the airport terminal throwing meat from their torso at the returning soldiers.
“Most people don’t believe something can happen until it already has. That’s not stupidity or weakness, that’s just human nature.” - Max Brooks (World War Z)
No, that is definitely stupidity. Of course, Maxy boy thinks this way because he himself is, in fact, stupid. I mean, why can't it be both stupidity and human nature? Those two are not mutually exclusive. Although, it's definitely not weakness, cuz that doesn't make any flippin sense.
I actually saw the movie first as a kid, and ended up getting the book from the library. I thought the movie was ok, but was absolutely addicted to each chapter of the book. I even bought a red flashlight because of the interview with the military. I could imagine, however, the studio not being thrilled after reading the part where the rich CEO-type got torn to shreds after the poorer survivors banded together
I think the biggest flashbang was Max Brooks writing 3 fucking Minecraft books. Like. 3 of them. Not even just 1 - a trilogy of Minecraft novels. Zombie Survival Guide and World War Z - two of the biggest brain zombie books from that era. Goes on to write sanctioned Minecraft fanfics. What the hell
That would unironically have been a funnier and better ending than what we got. The ending was so cataclysmically stupid, that pepsi being the antidote to Zombies would have been almost equally dumb and 10x more entertaining. I'd have happily sat through that ending. The ending where its a 10 min pepsi ad where they air drop pepsi into warzones and civilain defenses. Then a sequel that's a 120 min pepsi ad where pepsi factories are next door to firearms factories, and pepsi supply lines need to be defended so pepsi can save the day at Yonkers.
@@elyrienvalkyr8167 How much would Pepsi pay to get product placement where they literally get to save the world? 🤑 Next film: reclaiming the west, in The Pepsi Pipeline!
@@elyrienvalkyr8167 I remember a movie where head and shoulders was the ultimate weapons against aliens or something. I have no idea what it was called but using a super popular brand product to defeat the invasion has been done before.
@@PhaTs00p hey, Evolution was a treasure that only comes once a decade. Plus that just further supports my point that Pepsi would have been a far funnier and better ending
@@PhaTs00p That's Evolution (2001) with David Duchovny of X-files fame. They figure out Selenium will kill the aliens and it turns out Head and Shoulders anti-dandruff hair products contain Selenium, so they defeat the alias with a Firetruck full of Head and Shoulders. They even do a bit of ad read for head and shoulders during the credits.
And then the World War Z video game came out recently and was honestly a REALLY fun hoard shooter. ... And now John Carpenter came out of a retirement full of gaming to make his own hoard shooter with the devs of the World War Z game, and it's got like, vehicles? This is the last thing I ever expected to come out of the World War Z name, but I am 100% on board.
@@DescendingVelocitythey’re still updating it surprisingly probably one of the most criminally underrated games imo they added a lot more content the last time I played the only issue I had is it gets repetitive a bit after awhile but man the game I felt like what the movie should’ve been then what we got
If you want a zombie show that feels like a real large-scale conflict, I'd recommend Kingdom (mostly season 1). The main drawback for English speakers is that it's all in Korean, but it's a very cool premise where the zombies sleep during the day (appearing dead) and hunt at night, are extremely fast but uncoordinated and dumb, and it takes place in the 14-1500s so there are select few muskets and cannons available and most fighting has to be done hand-to-hand or with arrows. The outbreak could've been contained, but insider corruption and misunderstandings about how the zombies actually behave ultimately turns it into a catastrophe. This all culminates in the end of season 1 with a very unexpected but well-built twist. I stopped watching halfway through season 2 because something just felt off about it, but season 1 is really good
@@themug406Nah not really, English makes up such a large portion of the market that English speakers are content sticking with English media but foreigners will naturally watch English media because it's the most popular and has a larger quantity
@@domskillet5744 Thats unironically interesting to me, Im "foreign" so consuming media in other languages comes pretty naturally, even languages I dont speak I just put subs on, if its good media I dont mind reading a little to follow. I know what you mean about market size though, most of the music my (foreign, non English speaking) country produces is nevertheless sung in English for market appeal
@@ssru212What's the prequel called? Also I'm curious what were your thoughts on season 2? After the first episode (which was sick, the barricade sequence was awesome), it didn't feel as grounded as it was and the plot felt a lot more forced imo
Even Brad Pitt agrees with you. He REALLY liked the sociopolitical aspects of the books, which is why his production company bought the rights and hired an indie director. Unfortunately said director secretly wanted to do a big action movie and took the opportunity. By the end of shooting, he and Brad had completely stopped talking to each other
What? If his company bought the rights why the fucks he just did not fucking fired and replace the director when him started to take to much "creative liberty"?
@@deco90014 Sunk cost, plain and simple. If you were a producer and you go 90%, 80%, even halfway through making your movie and find out that your director is doing a shitty job, yeah, you absolutely would want to fire him and put more resources into making this movie both a good movie and what you want the movie to be. Then your accountant comes in and says that you're bleeding, no, hemorrhaging money, like the project just took a shotgun blast to the bank account. You ask everyone if we have the resources to re-do the movie; everyone says no, this has already been delayed for years and years, with more rewrites to the script than we can already support. Unless this is the most passionate of passion projects, you're going to have to put something out so that you can keep the lights on, keep people paid, and more importantly, make sure you're not in the red for it (especially if it's your own production company running this). Meanwhile, the dumbass director you hired hasn't been fired because you've already been paying him, and you're going to have to keep paying him if you want the movie done cause he's your only option with the resources you have. While you aren't speaking to him anymore, you at least sign his checks so you can get this thing over with. It's a shame too, cause you can't really figure out what's gonna be a sunk cost or not unless you're clairvoyant, and most times it's little things in a project that add up over time to make it a disaster.
yee i have to agree with guy number 2, if brad pitt hasn't got the money to show someone the door, then buying the rights to anything is a waste of time
The fact that the title was literally all it had in common with the book is actually impressive given the book's popularity was the only reason they made the movie in the first place.
People hate of J.K. Rowling now but me must respect how she was able to keep thing close to the source for 10 years of productions, with an obvious Michael Gambon exception. Now if Rick Riordan can get that through Disney.
@@tenderandmoist5011 Yeah in the book the decision to let Palestinians in and give up Gaza and the West Bank causes a civil war in Israel. Much more realistic.
My friend and I were extremely stoned when we saw the scene where the doctor slipped and accidentally shot himself. Our exact reactions were shock followed by uncontrollable laughter for 5 straight minutes. Completely forget what happens after that scene because I couldn’t see I had tears in my eyes
Man Cody is covering every movie that 12 year old me was obsessed with. I had a bizarre obsession with disaster movies around this time. I really was an odd kid.
I used to watch battle for Los Angeles more than once, since I thought seeing a war between humanity an unknown species was pretty cool and seeing buildings and peoples lives getting ruined was really enjoyable when I was a kid.😺
The single funniest moment in cinematic history occurred with this film: The one (1) doctor they brought along to investigate South Korea's Patient Zero to try to find a cure needed to die so they couldn't get the answer so easily. To kill him off, he slipped and fell on the ramp of the C-130 and accidentally shot himself in the head with his own service pistol.
I watched the movie in the theaters. That scene baffled me so much I was still thinking about it as the movie ended. Brad Pitt was walking down the hall with a pepsi can but all I could remember was the dude slipping and killing himself. Never had I seen such a funny way to get rid of a character outside of comedy media.
Not only they solved a problem they wrote themselves in but also did it un the most impractical way posible. The dude could have perish bitten by a zombie or even friendly fire. But no...he just...that.
12:32 That said, if you read the book, the strategies used against the zombies were probably made by a braindead zombie as well. It was like those mobile game ads where someone actively avoids upgrades.
I think Brooks overstated the degree of bungle, but the overall picture and the attitude from top brass was rather spot on. Cody also dramatically understated the number of zombies. Thousands was what the military expected and prepped for, what they actually found were MILLIONS
I remember when I found out that Michael Kirkbride, famed insane and insanely good writer from Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind wrote Telltale’s Batman game and then found out he wrote Minecraft Story Mode damaged my mind in ways I will never recover from.
im surprised you can rewatch it. I saw it in theaters because i loved the book and ended up checking my phone a lot waiting for it to wrap up. I may have even left early if it wasnt for the fact i went with my family.
I had the same reaction to Battleship. HBO replayed it often and whenever it was on I would turn to it. Now I enjoy the movie even though I can't tell why.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD "gas lighting" is one of those terms thats been misused so much that it doesnt really have any meaning anymore. Like the word "literally" which can mean damn near anything.
8:35 Man, that whole Isreal Palestine thing uhh, aged...How it aged I'll let y'all decide but uhh...I was just rewatching this video, forgetting this segment existed and wowzers, its a moment of all time... ... Lmao
Man, I really like how the World War Z game tried to combine both the book and the movie. Having the fast and big tidal wave of zombies while also using the events of the book and focusing on different groups of people around the world.
Since this video is throwing a ton of attention on the book. For people who never decided to pick it up, here are my favourite ideas/chapters it explores: What happens to the people on the international space station during the war? How does a zombie apocalypse affect the minds of those there during it? So many great explorations, quislings, which are a horrific case of Stockholm syndrome. Last man on earth syndrome, where lone individuals cut off from the world eventually convince themselves that they’re the only one left, becoming almost impossible to bring back into society. In the later stages of the war, every squad of soldiers has an assigned therapist instructed to relieve them of duty when they’re close to the edge. The Russian nuclear sub defectors stealing their families away to live at sea while hiding from both the zombie plague and the Russian military!? The fact that even though the event originated in China there were many rogue cases in western nations because of the organ black market. The entire celebrity chapter. Personal favourites: The blind monk that survives in the forest. The Japanese teenager who rappels down apartment complex balconies to escape. The propaganda morale boosting campaign. One of the only books I regularly pick up and read a chapter out of for the sheer enjoyment. 10/10
Isn't the blind monk the gardener the Japanese otaku meets after escaping his appartment? If I remember correctly, the two became monks after the war ended. The most interesting part about the blind guy being the insight into Japanese culture and what a horrible modern dystopia it actually is.
My favorite chapter was the cargo pilot who crash landed in the middle of the Louisiana swamps, right in the middle of infected territory and hundreds of miles from safety. She then has to make it to safety, and she is assisted by a civilian radio host who may or may not be a figment of her imagination.
This video convinced me to check the book out. I listened to the audiobook - not the abridged version with the voice actors, but the full 14 hours. I'm sure the voice actors are great, but I wanted to hear every bit of it. Loved the book, super realistic and convincing. Some things are scarily reminiscent of what happened during covid. I hope that one day it can get it's own streaming series that can do it justice.
I love how Israel and Palestine finally put aside their differences and it ultimately leads to their destruction. It's like that one episode of the Amazing World of Gumball where Richard finally gets a job and it nearly tears apart the fabric of the universe.
That was one of the weirdest changes to the book, where the exact opposite happened. They had a lot of civil unrest following the decision of the Israeli government to not be dicks to the palestinians, but in the end, it worked out as one of the countries that had the lesser amount of casualties in the world of the book. It is kind of baffling that one of the times where the book showed cooperation as part of survival, was changed to an action scene with the exact opposite message.
I first watched WWZ before reading the book and was completely and utterly baffled, bewildered and befuddled that they even shared the same name. They have no correlation whatsoever, with the book being a realistic and gripping tale of mankind’s war against the undead, and the movie being Brad Pitt running away from zombies for two hours before drinking a Pepsi and the movie ends.
Same here. Loved the book and was interested in how they'd adopt it, I was hoping for a sort of anthology format with either the narrator from the book going from place to place that each chapter was set in experiencing the events themselves or ideally just interviewed people and then the movie would show those events as they happened with the interview providing the format. Instead with got a bafflingly stupid and medicore zombie movie that had nothing to do with the book. The book was fairly slow paced without tons of action and was kind of clinical in a way which fit the interview format well and was both creative and interesting whereas the movie was a fast paced and generic disaster movie featuring zombies so they didnt even have similar tones. Some scenes were just baffling too like when the zombies all formed a massive ramp and over ran the walls of the city, bones and muscle have a hard time supporting large loads to the point even elephants find issues with their bulk so trying to stack bodies 100 corpses thick would just result in those at the bottom completely liquefying and cause the ramp to collapse, sort of like building on wet sand rather than bedrock.
Aggressive, 'athletic' zombies were cool to see in the movie though. The aggression of the zombies is literally the only reason to watch it. Tired of slow zombies somehow being made out to be a threat
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no one of the main points of the original book was that the zombie war could’ve been prevented had governments taken the threat seriously and got their heads out of their asses But by the time that happened the zombie horde was already past a billion. The slow moving factor was actually mentioned in the book but it was the numbers of the zombies and general idiocy of the nations of the world that lead to the war being the way it did. Yonkers is the best example of it
@@____Carnage____ the book is a little bit ridiculous though. I remember a part in it when astronauts were interviewed after the war and they said they could see the zombie horde from orbit lol
I think your points for the most part are completely valid. I recently watched the film for the first time, having read the book years ago, and this movie has become my favorite zombie movie to date. This is, admittedly, somewhat carried by the portrayal of the zombie . Unlike the novel and it’s spiritual predecessor the Zombie Survival Guide, the zombies in this film weren’t the slow moving, completely unquardinated beings, but rather fast, rather agile beings, capable of unintentional teamwork, and acting like simple virus. I also liked the story and the opening of the film. The fact the alleged best hope died immediately was pretty interesting to me, and idk maybe I just how low brow taste but I really liked it. I’m not saying you can’t hate the movie, it’s pretty clear a lot of this comment section agrees with this video’s sentiment and there is nothing wrong with that. Just thought I’d give my opinion on something I enjoy.
How did you go this entire video without *once* mentioning how Peter Capaldi was listed in the credits?! He was listed as W.H.O Doctor… and shortly after became the Doctor on Doctor Who. HOW IS THIS NOT IN THE VIDEO?!
The audiobook for WWZ is one of the best audio books ever. It’s a full cast and Mark Hamil plays the soldier that explains Yonkers (along with other things) and is amazing.
The audiobook is freaking amazing Other big names also include Alan Alda, Nathan Fillion, Simon Pegg, Paul Sorvino, F. Murray Abraham, John Turturro, and so many others
The scene in the CDC where the zombies are running past Brad you can tell the extras were all told not to touch him, Brad did a terrible job of hiding his frustration when a couple bumped him.
If anything the ones that bumped into him made it more believable. They’re poorly coordinated zombies moving down a narrow hallway, and suddenly there’s an obstacle in the middle. What are they gonna do, form a line to make sure nobody accidentally touches the thing in the center?
@@Birrihappyface Course, we could also explain it as the Zombies trying not to catch whatever disease they can sense that's on the meatbag moving towards them.
honestly, with all the bs happening behind the scenes and how many reshoots that probably took... Yeah I bet he saw every bump as yet another take he had to do, and yet another day he had to waste with that director. It probably wasn't a personal thing or an ego thing with the extras. He was probably just THAT annoyed at the director.
Fun fact: When this movie came out, Peter Capaldi had secretly been cast as Doctor Who. He's in this movie as "W.H.O Doctor" which kicked of the rumours that he was going to be the Twelfth Doctor.
Something that wasn't mentioned: The novel is based on "The Good War", by Studs Terkel, which itself is an anthology of interviews with WW2 veterans and survivors. Max Brooks father, Mel Brooks (yes, THAT Mel Brooks), served in WW2. I remember being obsessed with this novel as a teenager, and reading an interview at the time that Max wrote it as a sort of modern tribute to Terkel's book, his father, and WW2 veterans.
I remember one thing from the book that I really liked It said that in Mexico at one point, all the survivors who could, went to the pyramids and built a fort by themselves, the UN left them to their own devices. Both civilians, criminals and soldiers fought for days against millions of zombies And they won They ended up changing the name of the nation to "Nueva Aztlán" since they were able to survive thanks to the pyramids created by their ancestors
There were a lot of good short stories in the book, fighting in the Catacombs of France or how they used the castles and forts of Europe and just how darn right effective they were. Wish it kind of talked a little more about the groups that were trapped behind the lines though.
@@DustinDonald-cz9otthere was also one about the college students from different schools who formed an alliance with each other and fought off like entire hordes or the Māori who fought like half of Auckland lol I definitely agree with you
@@DustinDonald-cz9ot that one was nice too. Did he end up passing away in the book? I remember his student was still around and like helped make some official government recognized martial arts school that taught ppl how to fight zombies
@@DrizzyDrew47 Yeah he was alive during his talk the student was assisting him bringing him tea and such. He was the Otako who escaped from the apartment complex by climbing down.
I remember watching this movie when it was on Netflix. I went into the mentality of “Oh a Brad Pitt zombie movie, why not.” I sat through the 1st half of the movie than fell asleep through the 2nd 3rd and woke up when Brad Pitt was arriving on that one island with his family and that one kid that escaped the apartment. I was so bummed out that I slept through the whole thing and restarted again, only to repeat the same process of staying awake for the first half and falling asleep through the rest.
I can still remember a bit of everything from World War Z (the book) the two fights. I remember the woman unearthing a GameCube. I remember that Cuba becomes the new world financial center. The Russians regress back into a full on theocracy. I remember Mets Fan. However the Battle of Yonkers and the US's shakedown conflict bookend my memories. Here you have the most cutting-edge military ever fielded and they get wasted, routed to a man. Because as the book points out. You always perfect the tactics of the last war only for them to not mean squat. Look at the Maginot Line. It would have been _perfect_ for WW1 but by WW2 Germany knew the could not afford to get bogged down. The solution to zombies was so damn quaint. You give people accurate, bolt action rifles of the smallest functional caliber with a round designed to maximize soft tissue damage when shot into a skull. The uniform is designed to be puncture resistant, though I would have put padding in to stop factures from bite or grip force too. And you put them in line infantry square tactics and make sure they have plenty of ammo and relief. After a while the slain zombies themselves become your own bivouac.
I loved the book, i read it multiple times. The chapter that stuck with me the most is a guy who was held up in an apartment and could only listen to the crying puppies in a nearby pet shelter as they ran out of food and water.
For me it was the one in the Paris catacombs. Fighting zombies in a dark winding labyrinth with only one guy in a squad of dozens who has night vision and no flashlights just sounded horrifying
@carnage2171 I remember that, definitely terrifying. Nothing like fighting zombies in the underground where they can come from any direction and could easily get lost forever down there as well.
Oh man that sounds traumatising. Reminds me of some other books with scenes a bit like that, eg last one at the party (just regular plague rather than zombie plague) where the protagonist hears distressed pets dying in locked houses. Dogs suffering hits me way harder than any actual people dying 😢
The book is great. For some reason I always liked the ending to the chapter with the architect. She was a rich and bored suburban mom and yet, when push came to shove she tore away a zombie's head with her bare hands to save her kids. The fact that the war gave her life a new meaning was an interesting introduction to the start of the war proper.
I was at a Barnes and Nobles after going to a restaurant with my family and saw a copy of the book on the shelf. I thought back to how you described it and figured I'd pick it up. It's been the first book I couldn't put down since I left high school.
I would've loved if the World War Z story was told as a multi part documentary on a streaming service, just retelling the events that people have seen, I'd watch the shit out of that
I saw several comments when the book got optioned that it should have been done in a style like Ken Burns' Civil War. (Side note: Brooks modeled his books format on Studs Terkel's the Good War.)
They actually made something like that, and it was in public snapchat stories. Im pretty sure it was produced by snapchat, and it was a zombie apocalypse told through the lens (pun intended) of snapchat stories and messages and snapmaps. Everyone posting about whats going on and more and more people being infected in just one hour after some weird guy bangs his head on a mcdonalds (it's one of the first zombies.) It was really good but i never finished it after a snap update and couldn't find it on snap anymore. Now that ive written this, i want to go find it
That would've been the best format for an actual adaptation of the story without the weird, drastic shit we saw with the Brad Pitt movie. Hopefully it can happen some day if the rights for it get into the hands of someone more competent.
That’s kinda what the game does. Each level you play as a different group of survivors in different countries and cities. And play like back 4 blood but better and actually love and effort when into making a fun game out of it.
Fun fact: In the Expanse books, there's a plot point on how people infected by the alien Protomolecule (described basically as programmable matter) turn into "vomit zombies" as a first stage that spread the material by, well, vomit. It was an above average spin that showed how the alien material used organisms to fulfil its task. However, in the show, the concept of vomit zombies was cut because the producer felt that it'd look like they were trying to jump on the zombie bandwagon.
Honestly that is scary : getting bitten sucks , But the fact that puke can be the vector for a disease makes it all the more grounded and well scary ...
my bad, I misread the comment. Thought it was the movie(WWZ) writer avoiding the vomit thing, cos the characters also didnt get turned from zombie's vomit in the movie. Didnt know the Expanse is a different show, I thought it's some kind of expansion from WWZ book.
I'm so glad you called out the super creepy (unintended???) political implications of Israel getting overrun because they let Palestinians in and then the Palestinians sung to celebrate peace with the Israelis. That subtext was so bizarre and sooooo kind of disturbing that I was always confused no one ever really commented on it.
@@auraskadante6273 The subtext is that cooperation and peace between Israel and Palestine will lead to the demise of Israel There’s been an ongoing generational conflict between Israel and Palestine. In the plot of the the movie Israel allows Palestinian refugees to come into its country and as soon as Israeli and Palestinians begin celebrating the entire country gets wiped out by zombies. It can be interpreted as Palestinians bringing chaos and destruction to Israel.
I was too pissed off by that point at literally everything else being so wildly bad and off color that I didn’t even notice. Everything about this movie is bad… and not enough smoothbrains know this fact.
I think a lot about how we could've gotten a World War Z mockumentary accurate to the book, with interviews with the various survivors and dramatic reenactments like with an in-universe actress playing the crashed pilot with cheesy editing effects added in. It could have been a brilliant meta satire using the mockumentary format with a mix of awkward interviews, dramatic reenactments and real-life travel shots, focusing on the author and his film crew traveling around.
19:20 That little line, "NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLING AUTHOR OF WORLD WAR Z" actually made me giggle. Also why do books still say "NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER" when fucking everyone has a New York Times best seller? *_I_* have a New York Times bestseller, and I've never even written a book.
The book really deserves a streaming series of some kind that goes by the original narrative of winning a war via good logistics and "just stand in a line and shoot the zombies" tactics
I don't fantasize about killing very often... ... ... whut? But the idea of standing in a line and throwing lead for a few hours to thin a horde sounds like fun.
My favorite part about the Battle of Yonkers chapter in the novel is that in the audiobook, the soldier telling the story is voiced by Mark Hamill and he _really_ sells how shellshocked the character is.
Oh, man, WWZ as a streaming series could be amazing. Each episode another survivor story, each with its own stakes, all contributing to a realistic and resonant story about making it through a life-changing, worldwide event... Now'd be a great time for it.
Honestly, that’s the kinda vibe I picked up just from a description of the book. A World War Z series could probably be set up like Band of Brothers in that way, bookending the episodes with an old vet talking about their experience in the War.
I think the closest we got to being somewhat accurate to the source material was actually the game its not perfect but fighting the zombies from different parts of the world with different characters and with the zombies from this movie is what I wish the movie did but a anthology series would be incredible as well
The plane zombie wasn’t in the bathroom. That’s a dumbwaiter elevator that leads down to the cargo hold, and the stewardess was bringing something up. The zombie probably got on through the landing gear when the plane slowed down to pick up Brad Pitt. That’s how I’ve always interpreted that.
It was great when this filmed here in Glasgow. I have a funny story involving my friend Neelum who was an extra. I worked as a runner on the shoot and everyone involved signed an NDA. My pal Neelum didn’t obey this all the time however so one time when we were out of set at the coffee place in Buchanan Galleries she was talking about certain scenes in public and luckily I had some silver tape in my backpack as I was required to have some for sticking down cables etc so I taped over Neelum’s mouth with said tape mission impossible style so she wouldn’t reveal anything to listening ears!
After a decade of not reading that book, I still remember some of the great stuff in it. The thing about Yonkers is that the military was super overconfident and made this weird comms system where every soldier could hear each other, so when the zombies come it’s just this haze of screams that are disorienting other soldiers. Really good stuff
Yeah or weren't stationed on roof tops made to wear heavy gear to shipping in loads of portapotties when the electricity and plumbing was still working. They didn't even seem to have swept the town as there was one soldier who was mauled to death when some zombies busted out of a room in one of the buildings.
@@manz7860 I never understood why in Zombie films or games they portray armored vehicles as made of paper. Tanks and APCs are made to withstand massive kinetic explosions, how are zombies supposed to claw their way through tungsten steel in any realistic manner? I understand the theme of being overwhelmed but even if one runs out of bullets the people inside would just drive over them or wait until the horde passes.
If they had just taken the episodic and anecdotal format of the original book and turned it into a show it would have been great. Such a missed opportunity
Maybe in the future. Since wokewood and money draining streaming services are remaking everything 🙄 (lord of the rings, Harry potter ,etc) world war z will probably turn into a show. But rarely I doubt they're gonna focus on the story and characters and turn it into world war z becuase white men and bigots 😂
I was thinking the same thing. Sort of like Black Mirror, except instead it all takes place in the same world. 1 season would follow a set of characters or a region of the world. Then when that season ends we begin following another set of characters. Cold opens could be like interviewing the characters about what happened on that day.
For Isreali viewrs, this movie was hilarious because of the character of a soldier called Segen. That's not a name, but a rank. I'm guessing the screewriters thought this would be like an American being refered to as "Lieutenant" by others, but that's not common practice in Israel. This is like Brad Pitt's character being called "UN Investigator" by everyone, instead of Gerry. Also, I always found it funny that Peter Capaldi's character is credited as "W.H.O. Doctor".
Bro as an Israeli thats legit funny like segen is a guy who is semi rank like a so chef so idk why he is just called segen . Like maby סגן מפקד segen captain but idk lol Uh quick edit to correct myself a bit . Segen isnt a semi rank its a guy whi he and only he is a semi rank . Something like a captain and then he has his segen but again just calling some segen dosent make alot of senses
@@user-cj3mc1xm9jformer israeli here (or whatever you wanna call one who relocated for study abroad) the idea that israel and Palestine coming together was our undoing is hilarious but also kinda sad. I think they dont like us being one lol
Man, you have no idea how much wasted excitement I had expecting to see the redecker plan, The Great Panic, Iron Maiden attracting hordes, the mystery of North Korea, the Chinese submarine, the nuclear exchanges, and the monkey peeing in the face of the mechanic on that mountain pass. I just wanted at least one story from the book to be adapted to screen 😩
Absolutely. My favorite is the one of the French soldier that was a tunnel fighter in the Paris catacombs underground, and how he tells his war was hardest and describes his brothers valiant death.
@@Barrettiful My favorite story from the book is when a group of rich guys bought like a fortified mansion to not get eaten by zombies but they still died anyway because they were terrible human beings.
@@reynanlamsen2007 I love that one so freaking much! Oh and the one when the pilot crash lands, and gets help getting back to safety. Can’t spoil that one, but chef’s kiss
Every American movie: ● Suddenly there's a disaster (in USA or Mexico). ● The US Govt. calls a random retired scientist enjoying his time alone. ● A problem is discussed with high ranking officials at a round table. ● Scientists from all over the world are recruited (by world I mean only USA, UK, Japan/South Korea and sometimes Russia). ● They form a group from all races of world (by race I only mean 2-3 whites, a black, a Hispanic and an East Asian). Not to forget one hot woman who's for no reason full of attitude. ● They defy all laws of physics to go and solve a problem. ● There's a problem at the very last minute, due to which one person sacrifices his/her life. ● The entire world congratulates them. They get Medals from US Govt.
Is probably going to be one of the weirdest, to find here, but thank you pointless hope for this video. This video has quite literally helped me write one of my college essays and I cannot thank you enough for that.
The best zombie scenario I’ve ever witnessed in any media is the one in CoD: Black Ops, where John F. Kennedy, Fidel Castro, Robert McNamara and Richard Nixon have to work together as a squad as the Pentagon is being overrun.
The way the novel is laid out would be perfect for an episodic show. Each episode could overlay different stories (Kinda like how Love, death and robots is) but *could* keep an overarching story if it wanted to. Some stories would be chaotic and violent (Yonkers, or expanding on the battles between raider groups and the new American Army) and others just about the human experience rebuilding (the community patrols). Or just... the silly stuff. the Reality TV show part would be absolutely hysterical imo.
Dude I dream of Yonkers getting a proper adaptation. I would really love to see the camping trip and I can't remember the name but the one where they line everyone up, blare the death metal music then just go to town.
i personally still want to see the part with guy explaining how all the whales died. honestly my favorite part of the whole book is that chapter because they bring up a previous chapter of someone saying how the entire species of the human race has been traumatized by the zombie apocolype, and in this chapter the guy explaining the whales scoffs at that, and says the best one liner in the book: "whatever man, tell it to the whales"
@@NrettG This is the Battle of Hope Where the Yonkers Vet was among many others that were having their first "test battle" against the zombies My favorite chapter of the entire book after the Indian chapter with I think General Raj Singh
Since all of the stories are interviews you could even make some with an unreliable narrator who tells some over the top action stuff...like a lot of Z Nation episodes to think of it
One thing that I appreciate from World War Z movie is how its zombies are still remembered as one of the most terrifying zombies in any forms of media.
Imagine taking the most realistic, well written and all around perfectly executed piece of zombie literature and turning it into a schlocky action movie which only connects to the book via title.
Especially when the one really badly written part of the whole affair could easily be fixed by just, you know, being Hollywood and asking the Us Army to consult for a bit. They'll help you set up a defeat at Yonkers that isn't shockingly stupid, because they know how the whole thing ends can be spun to the brass.
@@Sorain1 One thing I don't get is how that argument, whilat good, is a double edged sword. If you call the movie out on it, despite it being portrayed realistically in the original novel, you'll get people screaming at you "because it's not a documentary and can't be realistic" (FYI probably the worst argument for anything ever). But if it's done realistically people will praise it for that very reason. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@Sorain1I mean, that’s the point of the book. Even the grunts new this was shockingly stupid, but that’s how it was done because sometime you get total morons in charge that are preparing to showboat instead of seriously plan for battle. History has plenty of embarrassing losses of superior forces simply because of incompetence and the wrong type of training/equipment
Let's also be brutally honest: The book is not perfectly written and makes multiple deliberate choices to cripple the military. There is so much wrong with the basic set-up of the Battle of Yonkers that the military wouldn't have started it, let alone gone through. People go nuts about it, but to me it's as poorly set-up as Game Of Thrones Season 8 in "we have made specific tings to make sure the zombies win". Even the idea of having the communications connected was a huge red flag for "We want the other soldiers to hear their friends being eaten. We want communications to break down. We need both of these to happen to move the plot." Like come on. That's just the tip of the bullshit unrealistic iceberg of WWZ. It's a fun zombie fiction, that's it.
@@DamienDarkside The post above you talks about this. The military fighting the wrong war is something that has happened plenty of times. Just takes enough idiots or the right idiot in the wrong place
A movie based on a characters experience of a war with zombies could be really cool and put into movie format. The movie would start at a point of time after the war and interviewing one person, the protagonist. Then the rest of the movie is the protagonists experience until the end where it goes back to the interview. Would also work for a show. So much potential 😢
On that part about zombie media in the 2010s, my teacher told me that theres a correlation between whichever political party holds the presidency and zombies or vampires being the big thing.
I think it had to do with, if it was a Democrat, it was zombies because it represents the blindly following masses, and vampires for Republicans because they take a lot of resources or something.
Best part about those Minecraft books is that the audiobook versions are narrated by Jack Black, the guy from Tenacious D. Listening to him have a Minecraft themed existential crisis/panic attack, and the whole thing is played _completely straight_, was done of the most unintentionally funniest stuff I've ever experienced. Highly recommend
@@skyhunter2816 Tenacious D is older than any of his movies or more-famous projects. You might be too young to know, but that's where his fame originates from. Definitely not the thing "people know him least" from lol Tenacious D is almost 30 years old. For millennials and gen x, that's his origin story.
@@rednyte6155 I'm probably older than you and I'm well aware of Jack Black's career. Tenacious D is still much lesser known than the majority of his Hollywood projects.
You know what's weird? I always fantasized about a film adaption of the Left 4 Dead comic/campaign "The Sacrifice," which is a simple but well-written story. I always imagined it ending with the song "Follow Me" by Muse, which not only fits with Bill's fatherly relationship with Zoe and the rest, but also literally the lyrics say "left (you) for dead" and then the bass drops. I still have this mentally storyboarded. It's been in my brain for actually 10 years. This zombie movie also ends with that song and when I discovered that, it just made me depressed.
The whole shebang... The PayDay: The Heist crew hired for some random biotech which leads to the virus, survival of the Left 4 Dead crew, followed by the crew of Left 4 Dead 2.
@@Styxz__ Yeah but it has some kind of bromate or flavoring or something they might not allow it over there. I'm from the South and where I live we call any soft drink a 'coke'. I personally much prefer Coke but I'd drink a Pepsi if that's all that's around and I was thirsty from saving humanity!
It's really like the writers, directors, and producers read World War Z, and said. "Look! Here's this incredible book with conjecture about the possible origin and spread of a pandemic (muted coughing), with insight into real politics, personal responses, and possible national strategies for defense. How interesting!" Then they ran the book through an industrial-sized shredder, burned the ashes, buried them in an unmarked grave at midnight, and made a conventional zombie movie.
After this video pop on my feed I thought I would come around and give a piece of my mind why WWZ (movie) was preety good. But after watching the review and taking my own gripes on the movie and understanding better what happened behind the curtains... yeah i think its a preety accurate review. What I'm more interested is in the book which I completely forgot was a thing. Gonna go read it looks really interesting with the whole personal accounts after the zombie incident. Thanks for the review mate. Have a good one.
I always found it wildly hilarious how the protagonist's daughter's favorite toy that she wanted to bring along just so happened to count to an arbitrary number that ALSO just so happened to be how long it takes for the infection to take hold and that it JUST SO HAPPENED to start playing exactly when a man is bit to helpfully count down the change.
1) the infection took hold before the end of the count. 2) the time from bite to the person getting to his feet was 11 seconds, not 12. 3) knowing how long it took allowed for the dramatic rooftop scene. 4) what do you think would work better? Tell us how that scene should have been shot so as to convey the information needed so the roof top scene makes sense. Quite frankly it was about the most clever way to impart that information, set up the rooftop scene, and the freak outs the kid had each time the bear was lost or left bebind. *edit* I made a mistake. The zombie bit the person well before the toy started counting. So there is a margin of error to the bear counting and the person going from bitten to fully read to rage.
I think if they mimicked Band of Brothers it could be pretty neat. Start off every episode with an old person in a dark room and play it off as if it was all real
I picked up the complete audio book after first watching this video and I was immediately hooked. The audio book has a great cast to bring this world to life and I can easily see the world in the descriptions. I hope this gets picked up by a streaming service one day.
Also I think a tv show adaption would work well in a post pandemic world. I know Covid is obviously not as bad as zombies, but listening to the book now feels somewhat eerie as some of the language used to describe celebrity reactions, lack of government response, and other phenomena in the book is very relatable to how people reacted during the quarantine
When someone said "I can't even hate it anymore", that's the sign of something really bad no one ever even thought about making/doing it up until that one
His book was quite transformational for me reading it as a kid. It was the first book I read that wasn’t explicitly “for kids” and really exposed me to how interesting written stories and novels as a whole can be. Goes without saying I absolutely loved it as well.
Couldn't disagree more. First time I read the book I was amazed why people love that book. I had to read it again just to be sure. Massive plot holes. One of the few cases were the movie is better then the book. I really regret buying that book.
@@samuelgordino Kind of agree with you here. It wasn't that interesting, and 90% of the characters who were interviewed in the book were some kind of military role. It got very stale very quickly.
Tell me you have the mind of a 6 year old without telling me you have the mind of a 6 year old. Guy was a hack and all of his hypothetical scenarios relied on everyone acting incredibly retarded so that literal walking corpses could defeat all the armies of the world.
I actually really liked the second season of The Walking Dead. Maybe I was one of the few. I also really liked Warm Bodies, I thought it had a clever rationale for why zombies wanted to eat brains. *shrug*
If it were up to me I’d just focus on Tod Wanio’s perspective showing Yonkers and the early Outbreak, and if it gets to the point Showcase the battle of Hope.
The idea of the filmmakers buying the book-rights just to use the World War Z name kinda reminds me of the whole Prey situation with Zenimax, Arkane, and the late Human Head Studios. As for the "zombie tidal wave", I will say that it's kinda neat how the horde flowed like water. And speaking of water, IIRC the zombies in World War Z (the book) were actually full-on undead, so there were still hordes shambling around on the ocean floor long after Victory in China Day.
Yeah in the book they were even described as being able to climb up on the anchor lines of ships if there was enough of them and that’s how a lot of ships would come under attack
The main difference being that Prey 2017 was actually good. The director of Arkane at the time actually left shortly after it came out, and he said that he felt bad to be forced to use the Prey name for their game. Arkane's competency and creativity harshly declined after Prey and Mooncrash. Not only did he say it felt bad, but he gave solid reasoning for why calling it "Prey" actually hurt it. Those who wanted a sequel to the 2006 game weren't gonna be happy, and those that didn't like the 2006 game might have been put off by it sharing the name.
@@kinorris1709 True that. If anything, Prey 2017 has more in common with Michael Crichton's Prey than the Prey made by 3D Realms/Human Head. Though of course, its roots lie in System Shock and Dishonoured. Speaking of which, I feel like the Redfall situation was less Arkane phoning it in, and more of them being muscled into doing something too far outside their comfort zone. That, and probably the fact that Redfall could have done with more time to bake. It still would have been a by-the-numbers looter-shooter, but at least it would have been kinda functional. All that in mind, I really hope that Arkane is able to move past this and make something in their wheelhouse again. I'm not expecting Arx Fatalis 2 or a revival of The Crossing, but I wouldn't be upset if they decided to take us to Pandyssia. Though if we do explore Pandyssia, perhaps it should be done as a "roguelite" rather than a timeloop, where early expeditions are likely to fail, but even those failures can help pave future successes. Hell, maybe the main character is reincarnated across the ages through Void-fuckery, and past experiences (both what the player learns and what skills the main character unlocks) are what helps them move forward.
@@GmodPlusWoW I've heard that Raphael Colontonio wasn't the only one who left. Several others who were big names at Arkane formed a new studio with him. Wolfeye studios. Raphael was one of the founding members of Arkane, and the new studio includes several Arkane members who worked on the original Dishonored, and Prey 2017. It really does seem like a large chunk of what made Arkane good left with him. So I'm really not hopeful for Arkane's future.
I actually can only remember the parts that showed the massive zombie hordes, because, like the battles in Lord of the Rings or Avengers: Endgame, something about massive numbers of people or monsters just tickles my insides like I'm a euphoric dog getting a belly rub.
@@Chris-ok4zo It is, but that’s just the reality of the trenches, is it not? If you get queasy at the sight of blood and guts then maybe AQotWF isn’t the absolute best, but I say it’s worth experiencing the excellent score, marvelous acting, and realistic effects!
As someone who never read the book and only ever saw the movie, when I think of World Way Z, I think of the zombie wave. That to me is what made it different. It wasn't just another standard zombie survival story, because it instead treated the undead horde with the sheer spectacle of a disaster movie... at least for that first two-thirds, but you're right, the pacing completely drops off a cliff in act-three.
I love the novel and i was sad we didnt get that for the movie. I really wanted to see a war between humans and zombies. It was sort of not really teased at the end of the movie, but still can you imagine all out war with the undead WH40K style
Reading is for nerds anyway
Tonight!
James slaps a man.
Richard eats a man.
And I am a god of hellfire!!
TRUE AF!
Eh at least we have the audiobook version that includes a full cast that has Mark Hamil, Simon Pegg, and Alfred Molina among others
Consider me a big fat nerd then
Jokes on you, nerd culture is mainstream now. Haha
World War Z is the perfect definition of a movie that exists. It was made, it was written, had actors that were given a paycheck and isn't really anything more than that.
And the CGI was made.
It has cinematography, the actors are undeniably performing and the plot is.
Truly one of the movies of all times.
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I appreciate how the cover of ZombieU doesn't even need to use zombies to make it terrifying; they just use British people.
Far scarier than zombies and with worse oral hygiene.
@@Fazzbomb GO'AH PRO'OWGATE THOWSE LAYZEE XE'OPHOBIC STE'EOTOIPES GUVNAH BOBBY WOBBLES MOY TEA CRUMPITS HAVE SOME RESPECT SHIRESHIREBROOKSHIRE BLOODY HELL
@@Fazzbomb🤓🤓🤓
@@Fazzbomb Oh no! I'm so sorry that somebody made fun of you poor Brits when it's not even CHEWSDAY hope it didn't make you choke on you BO'OLE O' WA'ER. Anyways, hope you can go back to living in your nation who's development and wealth is built entirely on the exploitation of your former colonies.
As someone who lived in a country that had been colonized, this is so true lmao.
British zombies love eating other countries' resources.
Everything going right until the Israeli-Palestinian conflict ends in peace is some top-tier writing.
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God: Nope, here take some zombies 🧟♀️
I am not going to lie, I was dying of laughter from the implications that he was pointing out from the movie. “What do you mean by that movie?”
That’s in the fucking book, it sucks! Author is a hardcore Zionist, so much so that he shoehorned Zionism into a Bigfoot book!
@@sanguillotinewhat?
Come to think of it, I can’t think of a single zombie movie, show, or game where everybody boarded an airplane and then things went perfectly fine and they landed safely exactly where they wanted to go.
The ending of l4d? I dont remember it lol
@@Pikerberplane crashed
Microsoft flight simulator
@@thebluediego Not a zombie game.
Technically it's rockets not airplanes but Fortnite.
BTW, for anyone still sleeping on the book. Max Brook spent a _long_ time researching everything from disaster responses to pandemic planning to just regular household budgeting when planning his book. This lead to 1) his prediction of how the zombie plague originated and grew uncontrollably being scarily similar to the Covid 19 pandemic that came much later, and 2) a story written as if it's a collection of interviews from people all around the world of different backgrounds that each tell their story according to their experiences and perspectives. All in all, it's one of the most immersive piece of fiction you'll ever read.
Too bad he didn't research how armies, tanks, artillery, or firearms work.
@@patrickbateman312 That was my main issue with the book, but aside from that I thought it was good.
the interview with the feral girl survivor is terrifying...
That must mean that Humans got the W
@@patrickbateman312 that part was a bit interesting, but the storytelling is good enough for me to give it a pass
My favorite part was when the entire planet knew they could climb and stack on top of eachother and yet Israel still decided to host an open-top concert surrounded by infected lmfao
So basically, Israel and Palestine both had to play the largest game of The Quiet Game ever played?
I though it was just random people deciding to join in and sing, because random people doing stupid fucking things is very common.
Of course, that wouldn’t explain why the soldiers didn’t just stop them.
@@thinkingboi9508 This
Literally all the wall needed was an overhanging lip
@@thinkingboi9508 beyond even that, where are the bombs? Zombie movies always show soldiers uselessly shooting into hordes of undead, but rarely show missiles, bombs, grenades, *actually effective weapons against hordes of slow moving targets*. Hell, spraying napalm onto that tower trying to get over the wall would’ve solved it.
Fun fact:
The audiobook for World War Z is read by a full cast of Hollywood actors and the soldier that survived Yonkers was read by Mark Hamill and he completely nails it. Yonkers really is one of the best chapters because, like you mentioned in the video, it’s conventional soldiers starting out ok against the zombies, but then you start to see how conventional problems start to cause the soldiers to fumble such as running out of ammo, the uselessness of air strikes, wasted and energy time digging fighting holes.
Meanwhile movie like “hehe zombies that make pyramids go burrrr” which ironically enough, worked better in the world war z video game than it did the actual movie.
Ok. I need to listen to that
How the hell is an air strike useless against zombies? Did the particles of dust left behind infect other people?
@@Aredel The zombies in the book were barely affected by shrapnel, and completely unaffected by SNT and the balloon effect of pressure waves vs living creatures, because the zombies had gelatinous blood and a basic nervous system. Thus the result was: high explosives and fragmentation warheads from the artillery and air strikes did next to nothing to a zombie wave that numbered in the tens of millions, and for some reason (probably political) they didn't mass deploy incendiaries during that battle. Predictably, this had an effect on troop morale.
I highly recommend the audio book. They go into great detail to explain a serious take on a zombie apocalypse.
@@SpenzOT I can understand why basic fragmentation grenades wouldn't work, but a 500lb bomb doesn't leave behind much more than a vapor cloud within the effective blast radius. The pressure from the explosion is so high that it basically atomizes anything too close.
The effective blast radius was significantly smaller than normal due to the nature of the enemy, and even those zombies that were blasted apart, unless hit in the head, still came at the troops. The soldier mentioned that a severed had flew into his foxhole, and even though it was just a head, it was still trying to bite him. Check the book out. It explains the issues in great detail.
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This part killed me 😂😂😂
The protagonist drinking pepsi while the world is ending is peak fiction
We fought over toilet paper while big cities were storing corpses in freezer trucks so...
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 Were they supposed to fight over the trucks full of corpses? Yes in a crisis situation which the beginning of the pandemic was a lot of people panic and focus on what they consider their personal necessities. They weren't being attacked by mindless flesh devouring undead they were being told to stay home and keep travel to a minimum to keep themselves and others safe so their thought was "stock up on resources to hunker down" not "I sure hope Timmy learned about virology and epidemiology in 3rd grade otherwise the entire species is doomed to a violent and quick end at the hands of our reanimated loved ones and neighbors." There wasn't ever a TP shortage though, just people emptying on hand supply before the slowed logistics industry delivered already ordered and shipped product. I never saw any of that behavior in the metro I was living in during the peak.
As a world war Z veteran it makes me sad seeing people denounce our services
The days after the war were so rough for our servicemen and women. I remember hearing stories about them getting off the plane and zombies waiting at the airport terminal throwing meat from their torso at the returning soldiers.
I salute you, veteran. You sacrificed life and limb to protect us from those undead bitches. Thank you.
Welcome to being a veteran of any modern conflict. Except for WW2 those guys did nothing wrong.
Were you also at Yonkers?
I mean, to be fair, you guys did eat a whole lot of brains
“Most people don’t believe something can happen until it already has. That’s not stupidity or weakness, that’s just human nature.” - Max Brooks (World War Z)
No, that is definitely stupidity. Of course, Maxy boy thinks this way because he himself is, in fact, stupid.
I mean, why can't it be both stupidity and human nature? Those two are not mutually exclusive. Although, it's definitely not weakness, cuz that doesn't make any flippin sense.
That’s not even a bad quote. It’s kind of true.
I actually saw the movie first as a kid, and ended up getting the book from the library. I thought the movie was ok, but was absolutely addicted to each chapter of the book. I even bought a red flashlight because of the interview with the military. I could imagine, however, the studio not being thrilled after reading the part where the rich CEO-type got torn to shreds after the poorer survivors banded together
As a kid? Man, don't say it like that. It's making me feel old.
I think the biggest flashbang was Max Brooks writing 3 fucking Minecraft books.
Like. 3 of them. Not even just 1 - a trilogy of Minecraft novels.
Zombie Survival Guide and World War Z - two of the biggest brain zombie books from that era.
Goes on to write sanctioned Minecraft fanfics.
What the hell
Honestly about the same calibre
Well, that's something he learned from his father. Good comedy comes in 3
What did you expect? His dad is the king.
The zombies didn't avoid Gerry because he infected himself. They detected the poison known as Pepsi in his blood and deemed him an unhealthy host
That would unironically have been a funnier and better ending than what we got. The ending was so cataclysmically stupid, that pepsi being the antidote to Zombies would have been almost equally dumb and 10x more entertaining. I'd have happily sat through that ending. The ending where its a 10 min pepsi ad where they air drop pepsi into warzones and civilain defenses. Then a sequel that's a 120 min pepsi ad where pepsi factories are next door to firearms factories, and pepsi supply lines need to be defended so pepsi can save the day at Yonkers.
@@elyrienvalkyr8167 How much would Pepsi pay to get product placement where they literally get to save the world? 🤑
Next film: reclaiming the west, in The Pepsi Pipeline!
@@elyrienvalkyr8167 I remember a movie where head and shoulders was the ultimate weapons against aliens or something. I have no idea what it was called but using a super popular brand product to defeat the invasion has been done before.
@@PhaTs00p hey, Evolution was a treasure that only comes once a decade. Plus that just further supports my point that Pepsi would have been a far funnier and better ending
@@PhaTs00p That's Evolution (2001) with David Duchovny of X-files fame. They figure out Selenium will kill the aliens and it turns out Head and Shoulders anti-dandruff hair products contain Selenium, so they defeat the alias with a Firetruck full of Head and Shoulders.
They even do a bit of ad read for head and shoulders during the credits.
I think Max Brooks even said they bought the rights to his book before he even finished writing it. So yes, they bought it for the title alone.
And then the World War Z video game came out recently and was honestly a REALLY fun hoard shooter. ... And now John Carpenter came out of a retirement full of gaming to make his own hoard shooter with the devs of the World War Z game, and it's got like, vehicles? This is the last thing I ever expected to come out of the World War Z name, but I am 100% on board.
Man I was so sad when that game died out. I had a lot of fun with it but there were only like 4 maps to play and all of my friends got bored of it :(
@@DescendingVelocitythey’re still updating it surprisingly probably one of the most criminally underrated games imo they added a lot more content the last time I played the only issue I had is it gets repetitive a bit after awhile but man the game I felt like what the movie should’ve been then what we got
this is the best news ive had in a bit
isn't it called toxic commando
If you want a zombie show that feels like a real large-scale conflict, I'd recommend Kingdom (mostly season 1). The main drawback for English speakers is that it's all in Korean, but it's a very cool premise where the zombies sleep during the day (appearing dead) and hunt at night, are extremely fast but uncoordinated and dumb, and it takes place in the 14-1500s so there are select few muskets and cannons available and most fighting has to be done hand-to-hand or with arrows. The outbreak could've been contained, but insider corruption and misunderstandings about how the zombies actually behave ultimately turns it into a catastrophe. This all culminates in the end of season 1 with a very unexpected but well-built twist.
I stopped watching halfway through season 2 because something just felt off about it, but season 1 is really good
Do English speakers really not watch foreign movies/series lol?
@@themug406Nah not really, English makes up such a large portion of the market that English speakers are content sticking with English media but foreigners will naturally watch English media because it's the most popular and has a larger quantity
@@domskillet5744 Thats unironically interesting to me, Im "foreign" so consuming media in other languages comes pretty naturally, even languages I dont speak I just put subs on, if its good media I dont mind reading a little to follow. I know what you mean about market size though, most of the music my (foreign, non English speaking) country produces is nevertheless sung in English for market appeal
I LOVE Kingdom. It's the best zombie media out there, the story is superb and the prequel is also amazing.
@@ssru212What's the prequel called? Also I'm curious what were your thoughts on season 2? After the first episode (which was sick, the barricade sequence was awesome), it didn't feel as grounded as it was and the plot felt a lot more forced imo
Even Brad Pitt agrees with you. He REALLY liked the sociopolitical aspects of the books, which is why his production company bought the rights and hired an indie director. Unfortunately said director secretly wanted to do a big action movie and took the opportunity. By the end of shooting, he and Brad had completely stopped talking to each other
What? If his company bought the rights why the fucks he just did not fucking fired and replace the director when him started to take to much "creative liberty"?
@@deco90014 Sunk cost, plain and simple.
If you were a producer and you go 90%, 80%, even halfway through making your movie and find out that your director is doing a shitty job, yeah, you absolutely would want to fire him and put more resources into making this movie both a good movie and what you want the movie to be.
Then your accountant comes in and says that you're bleeding, no, hemorrhaging money, like the project just took a shotgun blast to the bank account. You ask everyone if we have the resources to re-do the movie; everyone says no, this has already been delayed for years and years, with more rewrites to the script than we can already support. Unless this is the most passionate of passion projects, you're going to have to put something out so that you can keep the lights on, keep people paid, and more importantly, make sure you're not in the red for it (especially if it's your own production company running this).
Meanwhile, the dumbass director you hired hasn't been fired because you've already been paying him, and you're going to have to keep paying him if you want the movie done cause he's your only option with the resources you have. While you aren't speaking to him anymore, you at least sign his checks so you can get this thing over with.
It's a shame too, cause you can't really figure out what's gonna be a sunk cost or not unless you're clairvoyant, and most times it's little things in a project that add up over time to make it a disaster.
@@deco90014 not trying to be rude but i had a stroke reading this
yee i have to agree with guy number 2, if brad pitt hasn't got the money to show someone the door, then buying the rights to anything is a waste of time
I doubt Marc Forster wanted to make an action blockbuster bit the people funding the movie probably did.
The fact that the title was literally all it had in common with the book is actually impressive given the book's popularity was the only reason they made the movie in the first place.
Lets be fair, it took like two plot points from the book, but their uses were completely different.
@@LordofSadFacIsrael Quarantine, and zombies?
People hate of J.K. Rowling now but me must respect how she was able to keep thing close to the source for 10 years of productions, with an obvious Michael Gambon exception. Now if Rick Riordan can get that through Disney.
@@MatanVilYou know other than the assassination of Ron’s character.
@@MatanVil Almost no one hates her
The Israel scene in this movie aged like fine milk
Like always
It had aged poorly before the book was even written
@@sanguillotinethe book handled the Israel part way better imo
No it was accurate. Israel tried to do the right thing only for Palestinians to ruin it for everyone.
@@tenderandmoist5011 Yeah in the book the decision to let Palestinians in and give up Gaza and the West Bank causes a civil war in Israel. Much more realistic.
My friend and I were extremely stoned when we saw the scene where the doctor slipped and accidentally shot himself. Our exact reactions were shock followed by uncontrollable laughter for 5 straight minutes. Completely forget what happens after that scene because I couldn’t see I had tears in my eyes
Man Cody is covering every movie that 12 year old me was obsessed with.
I had a bizarre obsession with disaster movies around this time. I really was an odd kid.
We all were
I fell that I used to love the transformer movies still kinda do and world war Z there not good but entertaining
I used to watch battle for Los Angeles more than once, since I thought seeing a war between humanity an unknown species was pretty cool and seeing buildings and peoples lives getting ruined was really enjoyable when I was a kid.😺
😳 w
Same
The single funniest moment in cinematic history occurred with this film:
The one (1) doctor they brought along to investigate South Korea's Patient Zero to try to find a cure needed to die so they couldn't get the answer so easily.
To kill him off, he slipped and fell on the ramp of the C-130 and accidentally shot himself in the head with his own service pistol.
"welp, that didn't work. shame there are literally no other doctors we could send 🤷♀️"
@@heathdionne7717 "We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!"
I watched the movie in the theaters. That scene baffled me so much I was still thinking about it as the movie ended. Brad Pitt was walking down the hall with a pepsi can but all I could remember was the dude slipping and killing himself. Never had I seen such a funny way to get rid of a character outside of comedy media.
@@heathdionne7717 every other doctor became a zombie
Not only they solved a problem they wrote themselves in but also did it un the most impractical way posible. The dude could have perish bitten by a zombie or even friendly fire. But no...he just...that.
It's so impressive when a movie you're expecting nothing from still manages to disappoint you
12:32 That said, if you read the book, the strategies used against the zombies were probably made by a braindead zombie as well. It was like those mobile game ads where someone actively avoids upgrades.
I think Brooks overstated the degree of bungle, but the overall picture and the attitude from top brass was rather spot on. Cody also dramatically understated the number of zombies. Thousands was what the military expected and prepped for, what they actually found were MILLIONS
The plot twist that Max Brooks is Mel Brooks's son, and that he also wrote 3 Minecraft novels was not something I was expecting.
I remember when I found out that Michael Kirkbride, famed insane and insanely good writer from Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind wrote Telltale’s Batman game and then found out he wrote Minecraft Story Mode damaged my mind in ways I will never recover from.
I've been a fan of Max for ages and this is the first time I've heard that he's the son of Mel Brooks.
@@themk4982 Please tell me he wrote the iconic UA-camr Muder Mystery episode.
@@themk4982 WAIT THE KIRKBRIDE WROTE STORY MODE?! This is insane
Max Brooks writes a ton of really random shit
This movie has aired on television so many times that I've subconsciously gaslit myself into thinking it's alright.
im surprised you can rewatch it. I saw it in theaters because i loved the book and ended up checking my phone a lot waiting for it to wrap up. I may have even left early if it wasnt for the fact i went with my family.
I had the same reaction to Battleship. HBO replayed it often and whenever it was on I would turn to it. Now I enjoy the movie even though I can't tell why.
I also remember South Park viciously satirizing it.
That's not what gaslighting means.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD "gas lighting" is one of those terms thats been misused so much that it doesnt really have any meaning anymore. Like the word "literally" which can mean damn near anything.
8:35
Man, that whole Isreal Palestine thing uhh, aged...How it aged I'll let y'all decide but uhh...I was just rewatching this video, forgetting this segment existed and wowzers, its a moment of all time...
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Lmao
It aged like fine wine
it didn't age badly, it was already terrible back then.
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The Israel and Palestine scene didn’t age well
I was looking for this comment
This movie feels like an in-universe movie.
It could be a movie that is shown decades down the line as sensationalized version of the events of World War Z.
@@1wayroad935 exactly. Some sort of feel-good movie, pure fantasy.
@@madcat789 So a sensational war movie, along the lines of “Saving Private Ryan” and “the Battle at Lake Changjin”
@@chinsaw2727 comparing this to ,saving private Ryan even in a joking sense, is in insult to that movie
@@leviticusprime4904
I know, but the comparison between the two movies makes sense if your Headcanon the WWZ film into an in-universe blockbuster
Man, I really like how the World War Z game tried to combine both the book and the movie. Having the fast and big tidal wave of zombies while also using the events of the book and focusing on different groups of people around the world.
That game was a better attempt at a left 4 dead spiritual successor than the actual spiritual successor, back 4 blood.
@@bcd32dok36disagree i liked b4b
@@bcd32dok36 I remember playing the shit out of that game. It was really fun.
@@madmonty4761 more power to man. I found that game unbalanced.
@@bcd32dok36 huh
Since this video is throwing a ton of attention on the book. For people who never decided to pick it up, here are my favourite ideas/chapters it explores:
What happens to the people on the international space station during the war?
How does a zombie apocalypse affect the minds of those there during it?
So many great explorations, quislings, which are a horrific case of Stockholm syndrome.
Last man on earth syndrome, where lone individuals cut off from the world eventually convince themselves that they’re the only one left, becoming almost impossible to bring back into society.
In the later stages of the war, every squad of soldiers has an assigned therapist instructed to relieve them of duty when they’re close to the edge.
The Russian nuclear sub defectors stealing their families away to live at sea while hiding from both the zombie plague and the Russian military!?
The fact that even though the event originated in China there were many rogue cases in western nations because of the organ black market.
The entire celebrity chapter.
Personal favourites:
The blind monk that survives in the forest.
The Japanese teenager who rappels down apartment complex balconies to escape.
The propaganda morale boosting campaign.
One of the only books I regularly pick up and read a chapter out of for the sheer enjoyment. 10/10
The submarine chapter was Chinese not Russian. The Russian chapters were about the lady soldier and the priest.
Isn't the blind monk the gardener the Japanese otaku meets after escaping his appartment? If I remember correctly, the two became monks after the war ended.
The most interesting part about the blind guy being the insight into Japanese culture and what a horrible modern dystopia it actually is.
My favorite chapter was the cargo pilot who crash landed in the middle of the Louisiana swamps, right in the middle of infected territory and hundreds of miles from safety. She then has to make it to safety, and she is assisted by a civilian radio host who may or may not be a figment of her imagination.
This video convinced me to check the book out. I listened to the audiobook - not the abridged version with the voice actors, but the full 14 hours. I'm sure the voice actors are great, but I wanted to hear every bit of it. Loved the book, super realistic and convincing. Some things are scarily reminiscent of what happened during covid. I hope that one day it can get it's own streaming series that can do it justice.
I love how Israel and Palestine finally put aside their differences and it ultimately leads to their destruction.
It's like that one episode of the Amazing World of Gumball where Richard finally gets a job and it nearly tears apart the fabric of the universe.
That was one of the weirdest changes to the book, where the exact opposite happened. They had a lot of civil unrest following the decision of the Israeli government to not be dicks to the palestinians, but in the end, it worked out as one of the countries that had the lesser amount of casualties in the world of the book.
It is kind of baffling that one of the times where the book showed cooperation as part of survival, was changed to an action scene with the exact opposite message.
@@themrrightleft417 who needs hope and heroism overcoming hate and darkness, when we could have needless jaded cynicism
I think the movie had a messaged to say
@@raptorskilltor4554 a very stupid message but one nontheless
Whether you support Israel or Palestine we can come together and agree on this one fact…….this scene did both sides wrong
I first watched WWZ before reading the book and was completely and utterly baffled, bewildered and befuddled that they even shared the same name. They have no correlation whatsoever, with the book being a realistic and gripping tale of mankind’s war against the undead, and the movie being Brad Pitt running away from zombies for two hours before drinking a Pepsi and the movie ends.
Same here. Loved the book and was interested in how they'd adopt it, I was hoping for a sort of anthology format with either the narrator from the book going from place to place that each chapter was set in experiencing the events themselves or ideally just interviewed people and then the movie would show those events as they happened with the interview providing the format. Instead with got a bafflingly stupid and medicore zombie movie that had nothing to do with the book. The book was fairly slow paced without tons of action and was kind of clinical in a way which fit the interview format well and was both creative and interesting whereas the movie was a fast paced and generic disaster movie featuring zombies so they didnt even have similar tones. Some scenes were just baffling too like when the zombies all formed a massive ramp and over ran the walls of the city, bones and muscle have a hard time supporting large loads to the point even elephants find issues with their bulk so trying to stack bodies 100 corpses thick would just result in those at the bottom completely liquefying and cause the ramp to collapse, sort of like building on wet sand rather than bedrock.
Woah I still remember that soda scene
Aggressive, 'athletic' zombies were cool to see in the movie though. The aggression of the zombies is literally the only reason to watch it. Tired of slow zombies somehow being made out to be a threat
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no one of the main points of the original book was that the zombie war could’ve been prevented had governments taken the threat seriously and got their heads out of their asses
But by the time that happened the zombie horde was already past a billion.
The slow moving factor was actually mentioned in the book but it was the numbers of the zombies and general idiocy of the nations of the world that lead to the war being the way it did. Yonkers is the best example of it
@@____Carnage____ the book is a little bit ridiculous though. I remember a part in it when astronauts were interviewed after the war and they said they could see the zombie horde from orbit lol
I think your points for the most part are completely valid. I recently watched the film for the first time, having read the book years ago, and this movie has become my favorite zombie movie to date. This is, admittedly, somewhat carried by the portrayal of the zombie . Unlike the novel and it’s spiritual predecessor the Zombie Survival Guide, the zombies in this film weren’t the slow moving, completely unquardinated beings, but rather fast, rather agile beings, capable of unintentional teamwork, and acting like simple virus. I also liked the story and the opening of the film. The fact the alleged best hope died immediately was pretty interesting to me, and idk maybe I just how low brow taste but I really liked it. I’m not saying you can’t hate the movie, it’s pretty clear a lot of this comment section agrees with this video’s sentiment and there is nothing wrong with that. Just thought I’d give my opinion on something I enjoy.
How did you go this entire video without *once* mentioning how Peter Capaldi was listed in the credits?! He was listed as W.H.O Doctor… and shortly after became the Doctor on Doctor Who. HOW IS THIS NOT IN THE VIDEO?!
The audiobook for WWZ is one of the best audio books ever.
It’s a full cast and Mark Hamil plays the soldier that explains Yonkers (along with other things) and is amazing.
The audiobook is freaking amazing
Other big names also include Alan Alda, Nathan Fillion, Simon Pegg, Paul Sorvino, F. Murray Abraham, John Turturro, and so many others
I gotta get this.
The issue is the Battle of Yonkers makes absolutely no sense
@@spartanx9293 Just like the Afghan pullout, so it's realistic asf in that regard. Our military leadership is highly "regarded"
@@spartanx9293It’s an explicit plot point that the US high command ate rocks when planning Yonkers. Everyone in the novel says as much.
The scene in the CDC where the zombies are running past Brad you can tell the extras were all told not to touch him, Brad did a terrible job of hiding his frustration when a couple bumped him.
Tell me more.
If anything the ones that bumped into him made it more believable. They’re poorly coordinated zombies moving down a narrow hallway, and suddenly there’s an obstacle in the middle. What are they gonna do, form a line to make sure nobody accidentally touches the thing in the center?
well Brad Pitt is a shitty actor
@@Birrihappyface Course, we could also explain it as the Zombies trying not to catch whatever disease they can sense that's on the meatbag moving towards them.
honestly, with all the bs happening behind the scenes and how many reshoots that probably took... Yeah I bet he saw every bump as yet another take he had to do, and yet another day he had to waste with that director. It probably wasn't a personal thing or an ego thing with the extras. He was probably just THAT annoyed at the director.
Fun fact: When this movie came out, Peter Capaldi had secretly been cast as Doctor Who.
He's in this movie as "W.H.O Doctor" which kicked of the rumours that he was going to be the Twelfth Doctor.
Its called a play on words for a reason. But if people don't know much about words, puns are only dad jokes and really bad.
Something that wasn't mentioned:
The novel is based on "The Good War", by Studs Terkel, which itself is an anthology of interviews with WW2 veterans and survivors.
Max Brooks father, Mel Brooks (yes, THAT Mel Brooks), served in WW2.
I remember being obsessed with this novel as a teenager, and reading an interview at the time that Max wrote it as a sort of modern tribute to Terkel's book, his father, and WW2 veterans.
I remember one thing from the book that I really liked
It said that in Mexico at one point,
all the survivors who could, went to the pyramids and built a fort by themselves, the UN left them to their own devices.
Both civilians, criminals and soldiers fought for days against millions of zombies
And they won
They ended up changing the name of the nation to "Nueva Aztlán" since they were able to survive thanks to the pyramids created by their ancestors
There were a lot of good short stories in the book, fighting in the Catacombs of France or how they used the castles and forts of Europe and just how darn right effective they were. Wish it kind of talked a little more about the groups that were trapped behind the lines though.
@@DustinDonald-cz9otthere was also one about the college students from different schools who formed an alliance with each other and fought off like entire hordes or the Māori who fought like half of Auckland lol I definitely agree with you
@@DrizzyDrew47 Loved the story of the blind monk as well.
@@DustinDonald-cz9ot that one was nice too. Did he end up passing away in the book? I remember his student was still around and like helped make some official government recognized martial arts school that taught ppl how to fight zombies
@@DrizzyDrew47 Yeah he was alive during his talk the student was assisting him bringing him tea and such. He was the Otako who escaped from the apartment complex by climbing down.
I remember watching this movie when it was on Netflix. I went into the mentality of “Oh a Brad Pitt zombie movie, why not.”
I sat through the 1st half of the movie than fell asleep through the 2nd 3rd and woke up when Brad Pitt was arriving on that one island with his family and that one kid that escaped the apartment.
I was so bummed out that I slept through the whole thing and restarted again, only to repeat the same process of staying awake for the first half and falling asleep through the rest.
The one movie where the video game adaptation is kind of not as bad as the movie itself.
i love the 3rd half of the movie too
lol
@@RoscoeWasHere The main thing that pissed me off about the game was that you couldn't pause in-game
I thought it still is
8:41 that didn’t age well
I can still remember a bit of everything from World War Z (the book) the two fights. I remember the woman unearthing a GameCube. I remember that Cuba becomes the new world financial center. The Russians regress back into a full on theocracy. I remember Mets Fan. However the Battle of Yonkers and the US's shakedown conflict bookend my memories. Here you have the most cutting-edge military ever fielded and they get wasted, routed to a man. Because as the book points out. You always perfect the tactics of the last war only for them to not mean squat. Look at the Maginot Line. It would have been _perfect_ for WW1 but by WW2 Germany knew the could not afford to get bogged down.
The solution to zombies was so damn quaint. You give people accurate, bolt action rifles of the smallest functional caliber with a round designed to maximize soft tissue damage when shot into a skull. The uniform is designed to be puncture resistant, though I would have put padding in to stop factures from bite or grip force too. And you put them in line infantry square tactics and make sure they have plenty of ammo and relief. After a while the slain zombies themselves become your own bivouac.
You have to admit though, Max Brooks' Zombie Survival Guide book was awesome.
I always remember the golden rule. No place is completely safe. Only safer
It and World War Z were truly phenomenal and should be enjoyed together.
ok leftist
Ah yes, operating a machine gun and going “rock and rolling”
I loved the book, i read it multiple times. The chapter that stuck with me the most is a guy who was held up in an apartment and could only listen to the crying puppies in a nearby pet shelter as they ran out of food and water.
and the interview with the feral girl survivor was terrifying...
For me it was the one in the Paris catacombs. Fighting zombies in a dark winding labyrinth with only one guy in a squad of dozens who has night vision and no flashlights just sounded horrifying
@carnage2171 I remember that, definitely terrifying. Nothing like fighting zombies in the underground where they can come from any direction and could easily get lost forever down there as well.
Oh man that sounds traumatising. Reminds me of some other books with scenes a bit like that, eg last one at the party (just regular plague rather than zombie plague) where the protagonist hears distressed pets dying in locked houses. Dogs suffering hits me way harder than any actual people dying 😢
The book is great.
For some reason I always liked the ending to the chapter with the architect.
She was a rich and bored suburban mom and yet, when push came to shove she tore away a zombie's head with her bare hands to save her kids.
The fact that the war gave her life a new meaning was an interesting introduction to the start of the war proper.
I was at a Barnes and Nobles after going to a restaurant with my family and saw a copy of the book on the shelf. I thought back to how you described it and figured I'd pick it up.
It's been the first book I couldn't put down since I left high school.
WWZ’s audiobook is PHENOMENAL. It has Mark Hamill as the Yonker’s veteran ffs it’s so incredibly good
I would've loved if the World War Z story was told as a multi part documentary on a streaming service, just retelling the events that people have seen, I'd watch the shit out of that
I saw several comments when the book got optioned that it should have been done in a style like Ken Burns' Civil War. (Side note: Brooks modeled his books format on Studs Terkel's the Good War.)
They actually made something like that, and it was in public snapchat stories. Im pretty sure it was produced by snapchat, and it was a zombie apocalypse told through the lens (pun intended) of snapchat stories and messages and snapmaps. Everyone posting about whats going on and more and more people being infected in just one hour after some weird guy bangs his head on a mcdonalds (it's one of the first zombies.) It was really good but i never finished it after a snap update and couldn't find it on snap anymore. Now that ive written this, i want to go find it
That would've been the best format for an actual adaptation of the story without the weird, drastic shit we saw with the Brad Pitt movie. Hopefully it can happen some day if the rights for it get into the hands of someone more competent.
Like the Halo: Believe commercials?
That’s kinda what the game does. Each level you play as a different group of survivors in different countries and cities. And play like back 4 blood but better and actually love and effort when into making a fun game out of it.
Fun fact: In the Expanse books, there's a plot point on how people infected by the alien Protomolecule (described basically as programmable matter) turn into "vomit zombies" as a first stage that spread the material by, well, vomit. It was an above average spin that showed how the alien material used organisms to fulfil its task.
However, in the show, the concept of vomit zombies was cut because the producer felt that it'd look like they were trying to jump on the zombie bandwagon.
It's a zombie movie lmao. It in itself already jumping on the bandwagon.
@@meh.96 who is blud responding to?
Honestly that is scary :
getting bitten sucks ,
But the fact that puke can be the vector for a disease makes it all the more grounded and well scary ...
@@meh.96 The Expanse is not a zombie series
my bad, I misread the comment. Thought it was the movie(WWZ) writer avoiding the vomit thing, cos the characters also didnt get turned from zombie's vomit in the movie. Didnt know the Expanse is a different show, I thought it's some kind of expansion from WWZ book.
Love the Bomberman Jazz 9:29 im going to need more of that
You are the funniest dude on UA-cam. I rewatch your videos. That’s how good they are. Love it.
I'm so glad you called out the super creepy (unintended???) political implications of Israel getting overrun because they let Palestinians in and then the Palestinians sung to celebrate peace with the Israelis. That subtext was so bizarre and sooooo kind of disturbing that I was always confused no one ever really commented on it.
Yea, the subtext there is very disconcerting - it basically goes "Treating the Palestinians as equal will bring ruin upon Israel", and that's cringe.
What subtext?
@@auraskadante6273 The subtext is that cooperation and peace between Israel and Palestine will lead to the demise of Israel
There’s been an ongoing generational conflict between Israel and Palestine.
In the plot of the the movie Israel allows Palestinian refugees to come into its country and as soon as Israeli and Palestinians begin celebrating the entire country gets wiped out by zombies. It can be interpreted as Palestinians bringing chaos and destruction to Israel.
@@FunkyFlunky2332 ah thankyou
I was too pissed off by that point at literally everything else being so wildly bad and off color that I didn’t even notice. Everything about this movie is bad… and not enough smoothbrains know this fact.
I think a lot about how we could've gotten a World War Z mockumentary accurate to the book, with interviews with the various survivors and dramatic reenactments like with an in-universe actress playing the crashed pilot with cheesy editing effects added in. It could have been a brilliant meta satire using the mockumentary format with a mix of awkward interviews, dramatic reenactments and real-life travel shots, focusing on the author and his film crew traveling around.
That sounds 10x better than the dreck we recieved
*real actors, but something like tropic thunder where they play an actor playing someone else
Hey, have you listened to the multicast audiobook for WWZ?
It is great!
*Fictional documentary, not mockumentary - mockumentary specifically refers to comedic parodies or take-offs of documentaries.
The book is one of my all-time favorites, and a yearly re-read for me. In the right hands, I think it would have been amazing as a miniseries
19:20 That little line, "NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLING AUTHOR OF WORLD WAR Z" actually made me giggle.
Also why do books still say "NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER" when fucking everyone has a New York Times best seller? *_I_* have a New York Times bestseller, and I've never even written a book.
The book really deserves a streaming series of some kind that goes by the original narrative of winning a war via good logistics and "just stand in a line and shoot the zombies" tactics
I think I have an idea.
I think I might make something like that.
Could be like a mix of The Last of Us meets The Walking Dead.
Don't forget "play iron maiden to hype troops up and focus their shots"
I don't fantasize about killing very often...
...
... whut?
But the idea of standing in a line and throwing lead for a few hours to thin a horde sounds like fun.
YES!
@@Metroid51 I’m sorry what?
The audiobook for World War Z is awesome, the voice cast is absolutely nuts
The Joker/Luke Skywalker/Mark Mothafuckin’ Hamill voices the veteran of Yonkers, and he’s so amazing at it.
What do you do during audiobooks? I’ve only listened to Ready Player One on my paper route as a kid.
@@shakabaka2716 good for long drives or when I’m cooking
@@shakabaka2716 drives, cleaning, playing a game that doesn't require much thought, cooking. Whatever really
Yeah
After this video, I listened to the audiobook with the full cast. God that would have been a fantastic miniseries.
My favorite part about the Battle of Yonkers chapter in the novel is that in the audiobook, the soldier telling the story is voiced by Mark Hamill and he _really_ sells how shellshocked the character is.
Oh, man, WWZ as a streaming series could be amazing. Each episode another survivor story, each with its own stakes, all contributing to a realistic and resonant story about making it through a life-changing, worldwide event... Now'd be a great time for it.
For HBO being produced by Sony and Regency Enterprises
Honestly, that’s the kinda vibe I picked up just from a description of the book. A World War Z series could probably be set up like Band of Brothers in that way, bookending the episodes with an old vet talking about their experience in the War.
I think the closest we got to being somewhat accurate to the source material was actually the game its not perfect but fighting the zombies from different parts of the world with different characters and with the zombies from this movie is what I wish the movie did but a anthology series would be incredible as well
Sounds dumb
the audio book version of WWZ is amazing.
“I will tear Dream in half with my bare hands” was so unexpected and funny at the end
Rip dream
Leaked scene from the Dune Messiah adaptation.
The plane zombie wasn’t in the bathroom. That’s a dumbwaiter elevator that leads down to the cargo hold, and the stewardess was bringing something up. The zombie probably got on through the landing gear when the plane slowed down to pick up Brad Pitt. That’s how I’ve always interpreted that.
It was great when this filmed here in Glasgow. I have a funny story involving my friend Neelum who was an extra. I worked as a runner on the shoot and everyone involved signed an NDA. My pal Neelum didn’t obey this all the time however so one time when we were out of set at the coffee place in Buchanan Galleries she was talking about certain scenes in public and luckily I had some silver tape in my backpack as I was required to have some for sticking down cables etc so I taped over Neelum’s mouth with said tape mission impossible style so she wouldn’t reveal anything to listening ears!
After a decade of not reading that book, I still remember some of the great stuff in it. The thing about Yonkers is that the military was super overconfident and made this weird comms system where every soldier could hear each other, so when the zombies come it’s just this haze of screams that are disorienting other soldiers. Really good stuff
Yeah or weren't stationed on roof tops made to wear heavy gear to shipping in loads of portapotties when the electricity and plumbing was still working. They didn't even seem to have swept the town as there was one soldier who was mauled to death when some zombies busted out of a room in one of the buildings.
It's so stupid lol. Even one single ATC would be untouchable to zombies
@@manz7860 I never understood why in Zombie films or games they portray armored vehicles as made of paper. Tanks and APCs are made to withstand massive kinetic explosions, how are zombies supposed to claw their way through tungsten steel in any realistic manner? I understand the theme of being overwhelmed but even if one runs out of bullets the people inside would just drive over them or wait until the horde passes.
@@FelipeJaquez Yeah zombies literally cannot do anything to a single tank. It's got so much armor and weight that it'd be absolutely unstoppable
The thing is that, system was a real it just doesn't work like that while the book is overall good the military aspect makes no sense
If they had just taken the episodic and anecdotal format of the original book and turned it into a show it would have been great. Such a missed opportunity
Maybe in the future. Since wokewood and money draining streaming services are remaking everything 🙄 (lord of the rings, Harry potter ,etc) world war z will probably turn into a show. But rarely I doubt they're gonna focus on the story and characters and turn it into world war z becuase white men and bigots 😂
The only way to shoot the book would be to make it a mockumentary.
I was thinking the same thing. Sort of like Black Mirror, except instead it all takes place in the same world. 1 season would follow a set of characters or a region of the world. Then when that season ends we begin following another set of characters. Cold opens could be like interviewing the characters about what happened on that day.
That Israeli getting along with Palestinian in the safe zone scene aged really really REALLY bad
YYeeeaaaahhh.
Zionism is the real infection
@@Moon_in_Flamesman Palestin supporters are so stupid and insecure
You realize political situation tend to exist before Instagram told you about them 4 months ago right
@@unhhgcrxexhjvuvujchcrzwzwz7956 no
9:15 OH MY GOD 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 considering the situation THAT'S JUST POETIC.
For Isreali viewrs, this movie was hilarious because of the character of a soldier called Segen. That's not a name, but a rank. I'm guessing the screewriters thought this would be like an American being refered to as "Lieutenant" by others, but that's not common practice in Israel. This is like Brad Pitt's character being called "UN Investigator" by everyone, instead of Gerry.
Also, I always found it funny that Peter Capaldi's character is credited as "W.H.O. Doctor".
That honestly CANNOT be a coincidence, that's so funny
Bro as an Israeli thats legit funny like segen is a guy who is semi rank like a so chef so idk why he is just called segen . Like maby סגן מפקד segen captain but idk lol
Uh quick edit to correct myself a bit . Segen isnt a semi rank its a guy whi he and only he is a semi rank . Something like a captain and then he has his segen but again just calling some segen dosent make alot of senses
The building is bigger on the inside.
@@user-cj3mc1xm9jformer israeli here (or whatever you wanna call one who relocated for study abroad) the idea that israel and Palestine coming together was our undoing is hilarious but also kinda sad. I think they dont like us being one lol
@@theengineer2650 yea lol
Man, you have no idea how much wasted excitement I had expecting to see the redecker plan, The Great Panic, Iron Maiden attracting hordes, the mystery of North Korea, the Chinese submarine, the nuclear exchanges, and the monkey peeing in the face of the mechanic on that mountain pass. I just wanted at least one story from the book to be adapted to screen 😩
the interview with the feral girl survivor would be terrifying if done right
Absolutely.
My favorite is the one of the French soldier that was a tunnel fighter in the Paris catacombs underground, and how he tells his war was hardest and describes his brothers valiant death.
@@sativa-sloth6099 Omg that one is sooo good!
@@Barrettiful My favorite story from the book is when a group of rich guys bought like a fortified mansion to not get eaten by zombies but they still died anyway because they were terrible human beings.
@@reynanlamsen2007 I love that one so freaking much! Oh and the one when the pilot crash lands, and gets help getting back to safety. Can’t spoil that one, but chef’s kiss
Every American movie:
● Suddenly there's a disaster (in USA or Mexico).
● The US Govt. calls a random retired scientist enjoying his time alone.
● A problem is discussed with high ranking officials at a round table.
● Scientists from all over the world are recruited (by world I mean only USA, UK, Japan/South Korea and sometimes Russia).
● They form a group from all races of world (by race I only mean 2-3 whites, a black, a Hispanic and an East Asian). Not to forget one hot woman who's for no reason full of attitude.
● They defy all laws of physics to go and solve a problem.
● There's a problem at the very last minute, due to which one person sacrifices his/her life.
● The entire world congratulates them. They get Medals from US Govt.
Is probably going to be one of the weirdest, to find here, but thank you pointless hope for this video. This video has quite literally helped me write one of my college essays and I cannot thank you enough for that.
The best zombie scenario I’ve ever witnessed in any media is the one in CoD: Black Ops, where John F. Kennedy, Fidel Castro, Robert McNamara and Richard Nixon have to work together as a squad as the Pentagon is being overrun.
It's just a storm, Dick, sit down.
“Do not pray for easy lives! Pray to be…stronger men.”
😂 this is hilarious
“Zombies”
-John F. Kennedy
"I like your funny words magic man!"
The way the novel is laid out would be perfect for an episodic show. Each episode could overlay different stories (Kinda like how Love, death and robots is) but *could* keep an overarching story if it wanted to. Some stories would be chaotic and violent (Yonkers, or expanding on the battles between raider groups and the new American Army) and others just about the human experience rebuilding (the community patrols). Or just... the silly stuff. the Reality TV show part would be absolutely hysterical imo.
Dude I dream of Yonkers getting a proper adaptation. I would really love to see the camping trip and I can't remember the name but the one where they line everyone up, blare the death metal music then just go to town.
i personally still want to see the part with guy explaining how all the whales died. honestly my favorite part of the whole book is that chapter because they bring up a previous chapter of someone saying how the entire species of the human race has been traumatized by the zombie apocolype, and in this chapter the guy explaining the whales scoffs at that, and says the best one liner in the book: "whatever man, tell it to the whales"
@@NrettG This is the Battle of Hope
Where the Yonkers Vet was among many others that were having their first "test battle" against the zombies
My favorite chapter of the entire book after the Indian chapter with I think General Raj Singh
An episode or two focusing on the British using the motorways as safe zones, and the video being made with the soundtrack by the Smiths.
Since all of the stories are interviews you could even make some with an unreliable narrator who tells some over the top action stuff...like a lot of Z Nation episodes to think of it
One thing that I appreciate from World War Z movie is how its zombies are still remembered as one of the most terrifying zombies in any forms of media.
Last of us zombies would like to know your location.
Dead Space has entered the chat.
9:27 Aged liked Fine Wine, this hitted so hard I couldnt hold my laughter for a solid 5 minutes
Imagine taking the most realistic, well written and all around perfectly executed piece of zombie literature and turning it into a schlocky action movie which only connects to the book via title.
Especially when the one really badly written part of the whole affair could easily be fixed by just, you know, being Hollywood and asking the Us Army to consult for a bit. They'll help you set up a defeat at Yonkers that isn't shockingly stupid, because they know how the whole thing ends can be spun to the brass.
@@Sorain1 One thing I don't get is how that argument, whilat good, is a double edged sword.
If you call the movie out on it, despite it being portrayed realistically in the original novel, you'll get people screaming at you "because it's not a documentary and can't be realistic" (FYI probably the worst argument for anything ever).
But if it's done realistically people will praise it for that very reason.
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@@Sorain1I mean, that’s the point of the book. Even the grunts new this was shockingly stupid, but that’s how it was done because sometime you get total morons in charge that are preparing to showboat instead of seriously plan for battle. History has plenty of embarrassing losses of superior forces simply because of incompetence and the wrong type of training/equipment
Let's also be brutally honest: The book is not perfectly written and makes multiple deliberate choices to cripple the military.
There is so much wrong with the basic set-up of the Battle of Yonkers that the military wouldn't have started it, let alone gone through. People go nuts about it, but to me it's as poorly set-up as Game Of Thrones Season 8 in "we have made specific tings to make sure the zombies win". Even the idea of having the communications connected was a huge red flag for "We want the other soldiers to hear their friends being eaten. We want communications to break down. We need both of these to happen to move the plot."
Like come on.
That's just the tip of the bullshit unrealistic iceberg of WWZ. It's a fun zombie fiction, that's it.
@@DamienDarkside The post above you talks about this. The military fighting the wrong war is something that has happened plenty of times. Just takes enough idiots or the right idiot in the wrong place
They bought the book, read two pages, went “Alright, perfect, We can make a movie out of this.” Then forgot to read the rest of the book.
That's giving them too much credit
Aka most hollywood adaptations of books
@@32BitJunkie yeah, they probably only read the title
Starship troopers had more book content than this movie
I think they only read the book's sale figures.
A movie based on a characters experience of a war with zombies could be really cool and put into movie format. The movie would start at a point of time after the war and interviewing one person, the protagonist. Then the rest of the movie is the protagonists experience until the end where it goes back to the interview. Would also work for a show. So much potential 😢
On that part about zombie media in the 2010s, my teacher told me that theres a correlation between whichever political party holds the presidency and zombies or vampires being the big thing.
I think it had to do with, if it was a Democrat, it was zombies because it represents the blindly following masses, and vampires for Republicans because they take a lot of resources or something.
The Zombies climbing the walls and the uncomfortably long pepsi scene are the most memorable scenes from this movie.
Poinlesshub or should u say POINTLESSSHRUB SICK BURN
Best part about those Minecraft books is that the audiobook versions are narrated by Jack Black, the guy from Tenacious D. Listening to him have a Minecraft themed existential crisis/panic attack, and the whole thing is played _completely straight_, was done of the most unintentionally funniest stuff I've ever experienced. Highly recommend
it's wild to me someone would describe Jack Black as "the guy from tenancious D" and not, idk, any movie he's done lol
"Guy from Tenanious D"
It's JACK BLACK. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Guy from Tenacious D... As if Jack Black isn't already a household name, you chose to name the thing people know him least from. lol
@@skyhunter2816 Tenacious D is older than any of his movies or more-famous projects. You might be too young to know, but that's where his fame originates from. Definitely not the thing "people know him least" from lol Tenacious D is almost 30 years old.
For millennials and gen x, that's his origin story.
@@rednyte6155 I'm probably older than you and I'm well aware of Jack Black's career. Tenacious D is still much lesser known than the majority of his Hollywood projects.
AltHistoryHub why didn't you told me you had a movie channel. This is gold.
you really caught me off guard with the bomberman hero song in the middle.
You know what's weird?
I always fantasized about a film adaption of the Left 4 Dead comic/campaign "The Sacrifice," which is a simple but well-written story. I always imagined it ending with the song "Follow Me" by Muse, which not only fits with Bill's fatherly relationship with Zoe and the rest, but also literally the lyrics say "left (you) for dead" and then the bass drops. I still have this mentally storyboarded. It's been in my brain for actually 10 years.
This zombie movie also ends with that song and when I discovered that, it just made me depressed.
God I wish that happened
The sacrifice is good. Ever read the comic?
The whole shebang...
The PayDay: The Heist crew hired for some random biotech which leads to the virus, survival of the Left 4 Dead crew, followed by the crew of Left 4 Dead 2.
Brad Pitt enjoying that Pepsi is the most convincing acting in the film.
Exactly
how can you be from the south and like pepsi
@@Styxz__ Maybe they don't have Mountain Dew in Wales.
@@Stella2U but Mountain Dew is a Pepsi product
@@Styxz__ Yeah but it has some kind of bromate or flavoring or something they might not allow it over there.
I'm from the South and where I live we call any soft drink a 'coke'. I personally much prefer Coke but I'd drink a Pepsi if that's all that's around and I was thirsty from saving humanity!
@Styxz__ Considering they only have Coke over there, I'm not sure.
It's really like the writers, directors, and producers read World War Z, and said. "Look! Here's this incredible book with conjecture about the possible origin and spread of a pandemic (muted coughing), with insight into real politics, personal responses, and possible national strategies for defense. How interesting!" Then they ran the book through an industrial-sized shredder, burned the ashes, buried them in an unmarked grave at midnight, and made a conventional zombie movie.
After this video pop on my feed I thought I would come around and give a piece of my mind why WWZ (movie) was preety good.
But after watching the review and taking my own gripes on the movie and understanding better what happened behind the curtains... yeah i think its a preety accurate review.
What I'm more interested is in the book which I completely forgot was a thing. Gonna go read it looks really interesting with the whole personal accounts after the zombie incident.
Thanks for the review mate. Have a good one.
I always found it wildly hilarious how the protagonist's daughter's favorite toy that she wanted to bring along just so happened to count to an arbitrary number that ALSO just so happened to be how long it takes for the infection to take hold and that it JUST SO HAPPENED to start playing exactly when a man is bit to helpfully count down the change.
1) the infection took hold before the end of the count.
2) the time from bite to the person getting to his feet was 11 seconds, not 12.
3) knowing how long it took allowed for the dramatic rooftop scene.
4) what do you think would work better? Tell us how that scene should have been shot so as to convey the information needed so the roof top scene makes sense. Quite frankly it was about the most clever way to impart that information, set up the rooftop scene, and the freak outs the kid had each time the bear was lost or left bebind.
*edit*
I made a mistake. The zombie bit the person well before the toy started counting. So there is a margin of error to the bear counting and the person going from bitten to fully read to rage.
I actually thought that was a clever way to show what he was doing, more interesting than just hearing brad pitt counting to 12 at least.
Always thought it was pretty cool, nothing dumb or unrealistic. Just a perfectly reasonable cinematic choice that added to the experience.
Ding!
@@taoofjester4113 🤓
I think a tv show adaptation would be amazing where each episode is about a different person's story
I think if they mimicked Band of Brothers it could be pretty neat. Start off every episode with an old person in a dark room and play it off as if it was all real
Kinda like the last of us show but without fungi
Honestly I'd love to see hbo get on this
theyll just fuck it up, im blackpilled on tv shows lol.
I picked up the complete audio book after first watching this video and I was immediately hooked. The audio book has a great cast to bring this world to life and I can easily see the world in the descriptions. I hope this gets picked up by a streaming service one day.
Also I think a tv show adaption would work well in a post pandemic world. I know Covid is obviously not as bad as zombies, but listening to the book now feels somewhat eerie as some of the language used to describe celebrity reactions, lack of government response, and other phenomena in the book is very relatable to how people reacted during the quarantine
9:05 suddenly became very real in the past few months
When someone said "I can't even hate it anymore", that's the sign of something really bad no one ever even thought about making/doing it up until that one
Truly the book was PHENOMENAL. Immaculately written, Max Brook is a brilliant writer, highly recommend anyone check him out.
His book was quite transformational for me reading it as a kid. It was the first book I read that wasn’t explicitly “for kids” and really exposed me to how interesting written stories and novels as a whole can be.
Goes without saying I absolutely loved it as well.
PREACH BROTHA PREACH
Couldn't disagree more. First time I read the book I was amazed why people love that book. I had to read it again just to be sure. Massive plot holes. One of the few cases were the movie is better then the book. I really regret buying that book.
@@samuelgordino Kind of agree with you here. It wasn't that interesting, and 90% of the characters who were interviewed in the book were some kind of military role. It got very stale very quickly.
Tell me you have the mind of a 6 year old without telling me you have the mind of a 6 year old. Guy was a hack and all of his hypothetical scenarios relied on everyone acting incredibly retarded so that literal walking corpses could defeat all the armies of the world.
I actually really liked the second season of The Walking Dead. Maybe I was one of the few. I also really liked Warm Bodies, I thought it had a clever rationale for why zombies wanted to eat brains. *shrug*
If it were up to me I’d just focus on Tod Wanio’s perspective showing Yonkers and the early Outbreak, and if it gets to the point Showcase the battle of Hope.
The idea of the filmmakers buying the book-rights just to use the World War Z name kinda reminds me of the whole Prey situation with Zenimax, Arkane, and the late Human Head Studios.
As for the "zombie tidal wave", I will say that it's kinda neat how the horde flowed like water. And speaking of water, IIRC the zombies in World War Z (the book) were actually full-on undead, so there were still hordes shambling around on the ocean floor long after Victory in China Day.
Yeah in the book they were even described as being able to climb up on the anchor lines of ships if there was enough of them and that’s how a lot of ships would come under attack
The main difference being that Prey 2017 was actually good.
The director of Arkane at the time actually left shortly after it came out, and he said that he felt bad to be forced to use the Prey name for their game. Arkane's competency and creativity harshly declined after Prey and Mooncrash.
Not only did he say it felt bad, but he gave solid reasoning for why calling it "Prey" actually hurt it. Those who wanted a sequel to the 2006 game weren't gonna be happy, and those that didn't like the 2006 game might have been put off by it sharing the name.
@@kinorris1709 True that. If anything, Prey 2017 has more in common with Michael Crichton's Prey than the Prey made by 3D Realms/Human Head. Though of course, its roots lie in System Shock and Dishonoured.
Speaking of which, I feel like the Redfall situation was less Arkane phoning it in, and more of them being muscled into doing something too far outside their comfort zone. That, and probably the fact that Redfall could have done with more time to bake. It still would have been a by-the-numbers looter-shooter, but at least it would have been kinda functional.
All that in mind, I really hope that Arkane is able to move past this and make something in their wheelhouse again. I'm not expecting Arx Fatalis 2 or a revival of The Crossing, but I wouldn't be upset if they decided to take us to Pandyssia.
Though if we do explore Pandyssia, perhaps it should be done as a "roguelite" rather than a timeloop, where early expeditions are likely to fail, but even those failures can help pave future successes. Hell, maybe the main character is reincarnated across the ages through Void-fuckery, and past experiences (both what the player learns and what skills the main character unlocks) are what helps them move forward.
@@GmodPlusWoW I've heard that Raphael Colontonio wasn't the only one who left. Several others who were big names at Arkane formed a new studio with him. Wolfeye studios. Raphael was one of the founding members of Arkane, and the new studio includes several Arkane members who worked on the original Dishonored, and Prey 2017. It really does seem like a large chunk of what made Arkane good left with him.
So I'm really not hopeful for Arkane's future.
Wouldn't thet just be crushed by the pressure from the deep ocean?
I actually can only remember the parts that showed the massive zombie hordes, because, like the battles in Lord of the Rings or Avengers: Endgame, something about massive numbers of people or monsters just tickles my insides like I'm a euphoric dog getting a belly rub.
You sure that isn't you turning into a zombie?
WWI bayonet charges are calling your name, then. May I suggest 2022's "All Quiet on the Western Front"?
@@Gapsx1eGewehr Thanks for the suggestion. I've heard it's pretty brutal though.
@@concept5631 umm....
@@Chris-ok4zo It is, but that’s just the reality of the trenches, is it not? If you get queasy at the sight of blood and guts then maybe AQotWF isn’t the absolute best, but I say it’s worth experiencing the excellent score, marvelous acting, and realistic effects!
As someone who never read the book and only ever saw the movie, when I think of World Way Z, I think of the zombie wave. That to me is what made it different. It wasn't just another standard zombie survival story, because it instead treated the undead horde with the sheer spectacle of a disaster movie... at least for that first two-thirds, but you're right, the pacing completely drops off a cliff in act-three.
I love the novel and i was sad we didnt get that for the movie. I really wanted to see a war between humans and zombies. It was sort of not really teased at the end of the movie, but still can you imagine all out war with the undead WH40K style