Indonesian here, and I saw that you mentioned the EA202 series EMU, which is still colloquially known among rail fans in Indonesia as "KfW-i9000 series" (after the Kreditanstalt für Wiederaufbau or KfW who funded the state-owned INKA when the development of that EMU started back in 2009). Yes, for the first few years it was REALLY HORRIBLE in term of reliability of electrical equipment etc, even the permission to operate the train was put on hold by the then CEO of Indonesian Railways due to presence of unnecessary flaws in the finishing etc. Their reputation was only helped by the fact that the presence of air conditioning equipment made them still looked better than the older non-air conditioning EMUs. In general, poor maintenance caused by lack of proper funds and lack of enough amount of overhead line substations along the line (in 2013 there were still not enough substations to power inverter-based EMUs) were the main cause of these trains for suffering unnecessary teething problems, which was only successfully rectified after they were thrown back to INKA's Madiun Factory for refurbishment (as well as modification and repainting, since they were moved away to Yogyakarta division as part of plan to electrify the Yogyakarta - Surakarta line, replacing older DEMUs operated there as "Prambanan Ekspres" or "Prameks"). And it is their second home at Yogyakarta division that became the place for these EA202 (KfW-i9000) series EMU to show that the unnecessary teething problem had slowly becaming a past thing, while still allowing them to be monitored by INKA's employees (as the city of Yogyakarta is actually not too far from Madiun, if compared with the distance between Jakarta and Madiun).
Yup, and lucky to say, they not produced it anymore because the new EMU by Inka will not working with bombardier anymore and it will be working with JTREC Japan and Stadler Swiss. Basically the new EMU by Inka will be upgraded version of JR205 series based on spec that they published. Although EA202 Starting to be ok, but the newer Inka EMU hopefully will be better 😅
@@TheHoveHeretic Though can't say I'm dissapointed. Now they're a part of history. Even bad designs deserve preservation if only as large scale demonstrators for what they were.
The Aigle looks like its designer accidentally put his plans for a locomotive and a monster truck in the same folder before sending the plans to the factory...
I remember travelling on the 4D train once in the early 2000s, if memory serves it was only ever used on the Box Hill line because it was the only line that the 4D could fit under the bridges!
I know you might get this a lot, but have a look at Czechoslovak trains. I think there are interesting things to talk about, good and bad, steam, diesel, electric, if you need help with translation of texts in our weird languages, or pronunciation, I can help. Cheers mate and keep´em coming.
Funny thing is the 4D was based on the Sydney Trains Tangara, or T-Set, and that works just fine, even now. Although the electricals were closer to the current (at the time) comeng sets so it could couple to them. And it did, usually every time it failed. Surprised it stayed as long as it did, after one more try in 2002, it went back into storage until it was scrapped. Any parts that were compatible with Tangaras were kept, but nothing else was. Wish it did better, but oh well...
lol after listening to that early section about australian trains, I wonder if the hitachi trains (from melbourne, australia - that's their official name here, despite that also being the company's name) fit any of your train series. in the end they were used all the way from 1972 to 2014, which is a good long time for urban passenger trains! I mainly experienced them right at the end of their use, when they seemed so deeply outdated and unsuitable for their circumstances - trains with opening windows (with no screens or bars) and no air-conditioning being used in the height of summer during the home-from-school peak hour when (I assume) other trains got stuck due to rail warping or breaking down due to the 35°C heat. how none of the crush of teenagers on board had a heatstroke emergency or lost a limb (or worse) in those last few years I have no idea, a lot of us were not very smart. the train driver's union did well to demand air-conditioning in the driver's cab eventually, and they got it - a pity we passengers couldn't strike for air-conditioning!
@@MBTrainspotting Well… …NEW rolling stock from the UK. The last time a UK company won a tender. Although that’s not true, I was wrong, as the EF electric locomotives were built by Brush traction. But the FIAT railcars and a few other UK lemons definitely left a sour taste for British rolling stock. And I can’t see any UK works winning any tenders in the future, making the EF’s the last.
"... En-*Zee*-Ar..."? (eye twitches) 🙂 The story of the 88-seater RM railcar didn't end with setting fire to stuff - they were converted to run as un-powered locomotive-hauled carriages, getting a green paint job that led to their new nickname of "Grass Grubs". Apparently they weren't successful at that either, as they wore out in short order due to metal fatigue.
Lets replace the hst With what? The APT the APT doesnt work Replace them with the HST Lets replace the hst with the 225s The 225s dont work Replace them with the HST Replace the HST with 180s The 180s dont work Replace them with HST Replace the HST with the 800s The 800s dont work Sigh.....HSTs Yes i know the APT and HST were built at the same time
Spoken like a Pacer user!! At least the trains were affordable back then. You need a ruddy mortgage for practically ANY season ticket these days .... and who the hell is responsible for those wretched ironing board seats?
You know an engine is going to cause issues when you call it "Bi-Polar"....
I see what you did there well played well played
@@antonbruce1241 because you hurt his feelings
Indonesian here, and I saw that you mentioned the EA202 series EMU, which is still colloquially known among rail fans in Indonesia as "KfW-i9000 series" (after the Kreditanstalt für Wiederaufbau or KfW who funded the state-owned INKA when the development of that EMU started back in 2009).
Yes, for the first few years it was REALLY HORRIBLE in term of reliability of electrical equipment etc, even the permission to operate the train was put on hold by the then CEO of Indonesian Railways due to presence of unnecessary flaws in the finishing etc. Their reputation was only helped by the fact that the presence of air conditioning equipment made them still looked better than the older non-air conditioning EMUs.
In general, poor maintenance caused by lack of proper funds and lack of enough amount of overhead line substations along the line (in 2013 there were still not enough substations to power inverter-based EMUs) were the main cause of these trains for suffering unnecessary teething problems, which was only successfully rectified after they were thrown back to INKA's Madiun Factory for refurbishment (as well as modification and repainting, since they were moved away to Yogyakarta division as part of plan to electrify the Yogyakarta - Surakarta line, replacing older DEMUs operated there as "Prambanan Ekspres" or "Prameks").
And it is their second home at Yogyakarta division that became the place for these EA202 (KfW-i9000) series EMU to show that the unnecessary teething problem had slowly becaming a past thing, while still allowing them to be monitored by INKA's employees (as the city of Yogyakarta is actually not too far from Madiun, if compared with the distance between Jakarta and Madiun).
Yup, and lucky to say, they not produced it anymore because the new EMU by Inka will not working with bombardier anymore and it will be working with JTREC Japan and Stadler Swiss. Basically the new EMU by Inka will be upgraded version of JR205 series based on spec that they published. Although EA202 Starting to be ok, but the newer Inka EMU hopefully will be better 😅
I can't help but laugh every time you mention British Rail. 🤣🤣🤣
Sili-CON not sili-CONE
One rectifies AC, one wins wet T-Shirt contests.
Came here to say this. But you said it better
The CC1 looks like a single wide trailer home
Oh class 17’s…. Im suprised one even got preserved!
I'm sad, cuz the 17's look kinda neat. 1 of my favourites despite this.
You saying it should be scrapped? Dear lady, they all deserve preservation. Even when awful they are still a part of history.
No more surprising than a Class 28 making it through. 🙂
@@TheHoveHeretic Though can't say I'm dissapointed. Now they're a part of history. Even bad designs deserve preservation if only as large scale demonstrators for what they were.
Thank God it did though.
The Aigle looks like its designer accidentally put his plans for a locomotive and a monster truck in the same folder before sending the plans to the factory...
Someone: says "British Rail"
History in the Dark: *Screams in agony*
I remember travelling on the 4D train once in the early 2000s, if memory serves it was only ever used on the Box Hill line because it was the only line that the 4D could fit under the bridges!
THE CENTIPEDE!!!!!!💖💖💖
My favourite Diesel of Baldwin!😊😊😊
with the 4d train Victoria should have just asked Sydney Trains if they could buy or lease some of their tangaras
The audio on part 11 segment seems very muffled like you're talking through a pringles can
Yea, that was actually the better option. The unedited audio had a horrific screeching noise and this was the only way to fix it. Sorry about that.
I know you might get this a lot, but have a look at Czechoslovak trains. I think there are interesting things to talk about, good and bad, steam, diesel, electric, if you need help with translation of texts in our weird languages, or pronunciation, I can help. Cheers mate and keep´em coming.
Funny thing is the 4D was based on the Sydney Trains Tangara, or T-Set, and that works just fine, even now. Although the electricals were closer to the current (at the time) comeng sets so it could couple to them. And it did, usually every time it failed.
Surprised it stayed as long as it did, after one more try in 2002, it went back into storage until it was scrapped. Any parts that were compatible with Tangaras were kept, but nothing else was. Wish it did better, but oh well...
The British Rail gag never gets old, doesn't it?
British subscriber here the problem with our high speed trains is that they are always imports
Hey Darkness what about the DB AG 605 or ICE TD? Another failed "High-speed" Tilting-Diesel-Train.
How long until he makes another video on the engine of Marlbank, now that they pulled it out.
This aggression shall not stand, Man
Imagine the maintenance headaches a centipede with Fairbanks-Morse diesels would be.
Put all 25 episodes into one massive multi hour movie.
lol after listening to that early section about australian trains, I wonder if the hitachi trains (from melbourne, australia - that's their official name here, despite that also being the company's name) fit any of your train series. in the end they were used all the way from 1972 to 2014, which is a good long time for urban passenger trains! I mainly experienced them right at the end of their use, when they seemed so deeply outdated and unsuitable for their circumstances - trains with opening windows (with no screens or bars) and no air-conditioning being used in the height of summer during the home-from-school peak hour when (I assume) other trains got stuck due to rail warping or breaking down due to the 35°C heat. how none of the crush of teenagers on board had a heatstroke emergency or lost a limb (or worse) in those last few years I have no idea, a lot of us were not very smart. the train driver's union did well to demand air-conditioning in the driver's cab eventually, and they got it - a pity we passengers couldn't strike for air-conditioning!
For a second I was thinking “Oh No Bro” only to find it was just a compilation
I know a class of two Czech EMUs that were bad. ČD class 470. They derailed so many times.
I can understand the rebuilt EP-2 locomotives.
Oh yeah the NZR Fiat railcars.
They were the last time NZ ever bought rolling stock from the UK…
BR Mk2s?
@@MBTrainspotting Well… …NEW rolling stock from the UK. The last time a UK company won a tender.
Although that’s not true, I was wrong, as the EF electric locomotives were built by Brush traction.
But the FIAT railcars and a few other UK lemons definitely left a sour taste for British rolling stock. And I can’t see any UK works winning any tenders in the future, making the EF’s the last.
"... En-*Zee*-Ar..."? (eye twitches) 🙂
The story of the 88-seater RM railcar didn't end with setting fire to stuff - they were converted to run as un-powered locomotive-hauled carriages, getting a green paint job that led to their new nickname of "Grass Grubs". Apparently they weren't successful at that either, as they wore out in short order due to metal fatigue.
Bring on British Rail!
Kfw I 9000 is is the best train ever but problems what happened very hot AC like that in 2011
25:35. You pronounced it right. It's better to call it NS to make it easier to pronounce
Alstom bought out bombardier 😊
Lets replace the hst
With what?
The APT
the APT doesnt work
Replace them with the HST
Lets replace the hst with the 225s
The 225s dont work
Replace them with the HST
Replace the HST with 180s
The 180s dont work
Replace them with HST
Replace the HST with the 800s
The 800s dont work
Sigh.....HSTs
Yes i know the APT and HST were built at the same time
*HITACHI*
_crack the next_
Make a video about the Greek armored cruiser Georgios Averof
What is up with the audio?
why is this video so quiet
I don't know what your complaing about.I'm British and we actually had to LIVE with British Rail
Spoken like a Pacer user!! At least the trains were affordable back then. You need a ruddy mortgage for practically ANY season ticket these days .... and who the hell is responsible for those wretched ironing board seats?
@howardrisby9621 They might have been cheaper but they were filthy and disorganised,typical government department really.
Nope the BL2 is ugly.