Thanks to Nord VPN for sponsoring this video! Get 4 months extra on a 2 year plan here: nordvpn.com/animarchy It’s risk free with Nord’s 30 day money-back guarantee! Correction: in the video I stated that Duralumin is an earlier form of Aluminium. This is not strictly correct. Duralumin alloys are an aluminium alloy which were and are used in aviation. The reason I chose to describe it that way is to separate the poorer quality less advanced alloy compositions used by the Soviets from Western and Japanese Duralumin alloys. Also fun fact, the Japanese aluminium alloys used in the Zero were more advanced than anything in the western aviation industry, so much so that US companies reverse engineered it. Leading to the high quality aircraft aluminium alloys used today. So it wasn’t just a Euro-American race. Well guys, the long awaited tale of how the Russian Fighter Force began, developed and failed spectacularly upwards has finally arrived. From epic failure to calamitous catastrophe to a soaring triumph over fascism. This is the story of the early days of Russian fighter design. From 1908 to 1946. Featuring our cast of intrepid heroes as they try to bring Russia's fighters to life, while keeping their own. Music by Karl Casey at Whitebat Audio and the works of Russia's great composers. Special thanks to @habitual_linecrosser for his guest appearance! Support the channel on Patreon: www.patreon.com/Animarchy Bibliography and Source List -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Silvansky IS: photosofmilitaryhistory.medium.com/the-silvansky-i-220-is-how-not-to-design-a-fighter-aircraft-4f3300add83c#:~:text=The%20IS%20was%2021.9%20feet,paces%2C%20performance%20was%20never%20validated. en.topwar.ru/1197-nebyvalyj-istrebitel-konstruktora-silvanskogo.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Works of Yefrim Gordon - The leading historiographer of Soviet Aviation: Soviet Air Power in WW2 (2010) Soviet Combat Aircraft of the Second World War: Volume One (1998) Yakovlev’s Piston-Engine Fighters (2002) Lavochkin’s Piston-Engine Fighters (2003) Mikoyan’s Piston-Engine Fighters (2003) OKB Mikoyan: A History of the Design Bureau and its Aircraft (2009) Polikarpov's I-16 Fighter: Its Forerunners and Progeny (2002) (And all his other associated works that are far too numerous to list here. Go read them) LaGG and Lavochkin Aces of the Second World War (2002) - George Mellingher prussia.online/Data/Book/la/lagg-lavochkin-aces-of-world-war-2/AA%20056%20-%20LaGG%20and%20Lavochkin%20Aces%20of%20WWII.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Janes Fighting Aircraft of WW2 (1995 edition) - By Bill Gunston and Fred Jane The Russian Military Air Fleet in World War I, Volume One (2010) - August Blume The Imperial Russian Air Service: Famous Pilots & Aircraft of World War One (1995) - Victor Kulikov Russian Aero-Piston Engines (2005) - Vladimir Kotelnikov World Encyclopedia of Aero-Engines (1989) - Bill Gunston Lavochkin Fighters of the Second World War (2017) - Jason Moore
Same with Soviet paratroopers having to jump with no parachute, just relying on good ol' thick snow. For joke reasons this was before the fund to get them on the proper foundation.
"Mr. Putin how would you comment on the criticism against the Su-57?" "Before we start, I would like to do a quick 30 second to a minute historical recap if that's okay? So we must return to the year 1908 at the Kyiv Polytechnic Institute..."
@@Speedy2619 apologies, English is not my native language, I was impling that the unit of measuring how many beers Animarchy consumed will be measured in trucks, not bottles, not cases, but trucks. And remember, part 2 coming up
I Trink its due to you that the genre rule of “military history video must have pentagon wars soundtrack in it” was established. And now its such a cemented rule, that it appears on tsarist blunderstories as background. I like it, but it is a funny thing I have noted, it seems to be ubiquitous by now.
1:12:24 "made of duraluninium, essentialy lower quality early form of aluminium" can you back that up with any science, reference? duraluminium is better than aluminium and is still today used in aircraft manufacturing and space. Where do you pull out "lower quality early form" out? i know you have huge british arse, but how? ass didler1:12:24 "made of duraluninium, essentialy lower quality early form of aluminium" can you back that up with any science, reference? duraluminium is better than aluminium and is still today used in aircraft manufacturing and space. Where do you pull out "lower quality early form" out? i know you have huge british arse, but how? ass didler
I used to think the phrases “and then it got worse” and “then along came Stalin” were more memes than anything else. Turns out it describes pretty much all of the USSRs history fairly accurately.
My favorite phrasing for this was in Mike Duncan’s “Revolutions” podcast season on the Russian Rev(s): “But this is Russian history, where happy endings are illegal”
I'm very glad you mentioned the Czechoslovak legion in the video as they were absolute gigachads. Czechs want to go home, Czechs get told no and are labelled enemies of the Russian state, Czechs steal a train, Czechs proceed to win every battle despite being outnumbered, Czechs arrive in Vladovostok, there's no boat, Czechs steal a boat, Czechs win a naval battle, Czechs go home, the game last train home does a great job telling the story too
In one of the battles the legion got ahold of the Imperial gold reserve and evil tongues say that not all of it was handed over later in exchange for a truce with the reds, so they also possibly stole about a country's worth of gold. If the czechoslovak legion did not exist someone should have made it up, because I can't imagine a more cinematic scenario than a band of veteran soldiers suddenly finding themselves in the middle of a foreign civil war and the only way out being a distant port on the other side of Siberia. Someone should have pitched it to the Holywood while they still made good films, but at least we have the game now
This is russia we are talking about lmao If you told me a Russian general died taking cover during a artillery barrage because a anvil fell from the floor above I would believe you
By now most people should know Russia is completely incompetent. The only interesting thing to me about Russia is those legends about the Red Cauldrons of Yakutia.
@@anything.with.motors No, you're right. It's not in the video. The Red Cauldrons are a yakutian anomalous series of domed structures that might be responsible for a great many things of high strangeness and origin. It's a niche conspiracy theory. You kinda have to dig on the internet to read about them from every small scrap of information. They are the only legend besides the Ancient Slavic deities that I find remotely interesting about North Asia and North-Eastern Asia/Eastern Europe. The USSR is a sad pathetic story of misery, woe incompetence and complete stupidity and paranoid fools.
@Dunkopf To be fair a big advantage of those crappy little planes they had was the lack of a need for large fixed airfields, so it might actually have been worse if they'd been "better" equipped.
"What is beyond dispute is that the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is widely considered to have been a bad idea." That got me properly cackling... Well played. 😂
@@jf4226He’s some kind of weird communarchist or something. Just a typical subversive element that happens to make decent videos here and there, much like lazerpig (who is “former” intelligence I might add). He likely believes it is “the peoples work” or “because laws are bullshit lol anarchy”. Thus, in his mind, he gets to freely use whatever he wishes for the betterment of his video.
My grandfather flew IL 2 during the war. Over the course of three years, he lost four gunners, returned more than a dozen times with the fuselage almost completely shot through, and was even shot down twice, but each time he landed the aircraft. This plane was not just called a flying tank, it really was one.
@@AnimarchyHistory And one of deadliest aircraft for its crew. Only few made it to the end of war, and you can probably cover a country or two with remaning Il-2 debris, even in present day.
@@pavelchernyshev8964 They are not just more depressing. Almost all planes made were lost during war in combat, as expected from slow, heavy plane, that cant really stand for itself against any fighters and fighter-bombers, constantly operating on frontline, near ground where all AA is.
So, @@AnimarchyHistory imagine if the Soviets had the Il-10M with 4 23 mm guns, that'd be a field day for the pilots to shoot at thin sides of Panthers and Panzer IVs
Animarchy: "if we keep fostering our economic growth and the passion of our workers we can-" Joseph Stalin: (interrupts your sentence) -"and everyone died, the end"
1:12:24 "made of duraluninium, essentialy lower quality early form of aluminium" can you back that up with any science, reference? duraluminium is better than aluminium and is still today used in aircraft manufacturing and space. Where do you pull out "lower quality early form" out? i know you have huge british arse, but how? ass didler
@@JRyan-lu5im too good... which is suspicious of capitalist intentions and operations. Your assets are now the state's, and Gulag will correct your hetetical political ideologies.
1:12:23 Aeronautics engineer here. Duralumin is an aluminum alloy which offers a more favorable strength to weight ration over steel. It is basically stronger then regular aluminum, while still being very light. Such alloys are still widely used today. In Western aviation mostly 2024 series alloys are used while the Russians use D16 and D16T. I guess you meant not a lower grade aluminum, but an alloy that was just out of spec and shit.
Basically. For the people who aren’t aeronautical engineers. It was a way of me differentiating the refined alloys used by the other nations and the high quality Magnesium/Zinc Aluminium alloys used today. From the Soviet grade stuff which was… yeah. It’s easier to say and gets across that “the zero or Mustang this ain’t” without having to go into specific grades.
@@AnimarchyHistory I perhaps am slightly autistic, but it offends me when people confuse grade and quality. Grade defines specific standards and charecteristics of a material (chemical composition, tensile strenght etc.) The D16, common in soviet aviation, is analog to ISO/western 2024 grade aluminium in terms of specs as it is just their designation as per GOST standard. I however have no idea what grade would be used on a soviet early ww2 fighter, as I am more familiar with their helicopters. Quality defines adherence to these defined charecteristics and standards - the product being either as advertised or out of specification and garbage.
Industrial chemist here. I used to develop passive cleaning compounds for duralumin for aerospace applications. Duralumin is a remarkable alloy but prone to chemical attack. This is why so much effort has been put into surface coatings for this material. The tech of surface coatings was pushed into the future by this alloy.
(Addendum to the stealth video)... The SU-57 isn't ACTUALLY stealth... Unless you're drunk... And it's night... And it's painted black... And the radars are turned off...
The most Soviet conversation ever: “Comrade, the plane is so nose heavy it tends to nose over on takeoff and destroy itself” “Hang on to tail” “WHAT?” “Ride the tail and weigh it down, then when plane is in air, jump off” “You’re serious?” “Da, Comrade”
1:12:24 "made of duraluninium, essentialy lower quality early form of aluminium" can you back that up with any science, reference? duraluminium is better than aluminium and is still today used in aircraft manufacturing and space. Where do you pull out "lower quality early form" out? i know you have huge british arse, but how? ass didler
It's disgusting that Wikipedia lists him as Russian-American. Yeah Kyiv was under Russian control when he was born, but we don't call people who were born in France under Nazi occupation "Germans", that's not how it works.
1:12:24 "made of duraluninium, essentialy lower quality early form of aluminium" can you back that up with any science, reference? duraluminium is better than aluminium and is still today used in aircraft manufacturing and space. Where do you pull out "lower quality early form" out? i know you have huge british arse, but how? ass didler
20:25 technically there were 4 Ukrainian states. 1. The Ukrainian People's Republic with capital in Kyiv 2. The Western Ukrainian People's Republic, with capital defacto Lviv, dejure depended on what territory they held - Ternopil, Mostysko, Stanislawiw, Buchachiv, Chortkiv, Viden (they later united with the UPR) 3. The Soviet Socialist Ukrainian People's Republic set up as a puppet government by the Russian Bolsheviks, with the capital in Kharkiv 4. The anarchist Free Territories, with the the capital in Huliaipole.
1:12:24 "made of duraluninium, essentialy lower quality early form of aluminium" can you back that up with any science, reference? duraluminium is better than aluminium and is still today used in aircraft manufacturing and space. Where do you pull out "lower quality early form" out? i know you have huge british arse, but how? ass didler
It didn’t hurt that the Soviets sentenced Sikorsky as a Tsarist to death. And technically, after WW1, the Us was not an ally of Russia. The US didn’t recognize the Soviet government until the mid 1930s
Not bigger irony than the fact that almost the entire chief stuff of Hollywood were Jews from the former Russian Empire and that guys from the Balkans established the electrical and the computer industries in the USA and drawed the blueprints of the B 17 and the Lunar Module. It's a country build by immigrants (on the land of the First Nations). Additional information (unfortunally in Russian) about another Russian Empire aviators who was founders of big American aircraft corporations displays a guy with the nickname "hackmyth" on UA-cam.
@@miguelservetus9534 a famous myth. If he was a Tsarist or some other opposition, he would join the Whites. British-Slavic Air Corps as a pilot or engineer in one of Anatra aircraft factories. But he was more money and fame fan, thus did what he did - abandoned dying father and his pregnant wife (who got herself employed by the Red government later, btw) and freely traveled to London through Murmansk. You see, even the real enemies of the Soviets, like Krasnov, were cruelly tortured by release on parole. Pity the boat of Bolshevik humanism has crushed into the rocks of enemies' terrorism
My favorite Russian fighter is the Parade Fighter. AKA that time the Soviets welded pipes to the front of a bunch of unarmed jets to look like giant cannons because they didn't have engines powerful enough to lift the guns they wanted, air frames that wouldn't fly apart when the gun they wanted fired, or a loading mechanism that wouldn't eject spent shells directly into the air intakes. But they thought the west would think they looked scary as hell because they incorrectly assumed the west took all their claims at face value.
To be fair, there were a lot of times where they actually did; for example, they saw the absolutely massive MiG-25 and its wide wings, huge intakes, twin tails, and massive engine nozzles and thought this was a highly agile superfighter that would eat Phantoms alive in close-in dogfights instead of the flying brick of an interceptor it actually was. There was also the fact that the West usually wouldn't know about the prices being paid for all the stuff being shown until much much later, such as the aforementioned parade fighter not being able to shoot any kind of gun without risk of engine failures due to gun gas ingestion, or their brand-spankin'-new supersonic bomber (the original Blinder) being more likely to eat its own pilots before doing the same to the city it was aiming for.
It wouldn’t eject shells into the air intake, what would happen is if you fired the guns the fumes, would kill the engines by rushing into the air intake if you fired the middle cannon not to mention the bottom of the airplane, eventually deforming due to heat from the engines because of poor engine placement they did paint the bottom black at least that was a smart idea. Over all great concept poor execution.
@@jdreyes3745 The West assumed the Mig 25 was built out of state of the art light weight materials, which would have made it more analogous to the F15 in terms of manueverability and T2W ratio based on the design rather than the brick it was due to its heavy construction.
@@hydrastrike2699 Well yeah. The West tends to understate it's capabilities, so when the Yanks found out about the Mig 25 they thought "oh fuck" then F-15. Puffing your stats is fine unless your opposition is a paranoid superpower with a hugely advanced military-industrial complex and money to burn.
A few points about И-220 of Silvanskiy. 0. Before getting the work of И-220, Silvanskiy proposed two aircraft projects inspired by Polikarpov's planes (because Silvanskiy was practicing and working on Polikarpov's factory). For the first time he was rejected softly (i.e. the first project of a non-experienced engineer, you'd need to do some research on the matter). While the second one was completely destroyed by the comission for the same reason (on the comission there were Polikarpov himself, Dubrovin, Pashinin, and some other experienced aircraft designers of the time). 1. Most of the engineers he took with him were from the bureau of Dmitriy Pavlovich Grigorovich, who has recently passed away (was not killed by NKVD, but passed away). Who was a father of the first hydroplan, as far as I remember. 2. The issue with the engine appeared because of a very funny fact. The initial project of the И-220 plane was in fact a Polikarpov's attempt to improve the И-16, the project of И-164. Works on this project were not finalized as when the information about the newer engines appeared, Polikarpov went designing his new plane that would eventually become И-185 (a very decent fighter of its time in theory). While the project of И-164 was archived. And it was a common practice of a Soviet Union to provide newly created bureaus such archived projects to work on and to improve them (the МиГ bureau (Jesus Christ this word hurts my ukrainian brain to write everytime) was born in this way). So in the end, Silvanskiy, having engineers of one KB experienced to work with one aircraft, received a project of another aircraft, and an engine of a new design NOT for this aircraft. And while Polikarpov ignored these issues becuase the И-164 was designed for an old engine, Silvanskiy didn't notice this fact on blueprints and it appeared to be an issue when the engine itself arrived to the factory. 3. Before sawing off the propeller, there were multiple other attempts to 'fix' the issue, and let me put a few corrections here. First, Silvanskiy offered to extend the landing gear WITHOUT CHANGING THEIR POSITIONS ON THE WINGS WHAT THE F**K WAS HE THINKING ABOUT. That didn't work, the landing gear was not folding in its places. Then he was offered to move the guns (what's left of them anyway) further away and move the lending gear to these positions for them to be able to fold. Silvanskiy rejected this idea. Then he order to place more powerful pneumatic shock absorbers to compensate for the poor clearance. The gear was not folding because of the engine parts. He wrote a letter to the engine designers ordering them (lol) to remove these parts, because I AM QUOTING RIGHT NOW 'The airplane is more important than the engine'. No response was given, so he tried to flatten these parts with the sledgehammer without the necessary results (the engine survived that though). And only after that Silvanskiy went for sawing off the propeller tips. 4. The story of test flights doesn't end on the quote about the 'Shit'. Silvanskiy got offended by these words and asked to give him another pilot for this. And he got one. Who kept his vocabulary polite, but the results of test flights were the same - the plane was barely flying. Silvanskit got offended again. And dragged an active fighter pilot to the cocpit of the aircraft. For those of you don't know, test pilots (I have no idea how this profession actually called) are used to fly unfinished unpolished aircrafts that can do anything during the flight. While the service pilots are used to fly serial machines with predictable and stable behaviour. That was not the case for И-220, so the pilot nearly crashed the plane during the simple maneuver, landed the plane barely, 'Threw his helmet on the ground and left the airfield. What were the words he said at this moment remains uknown' (c).
Thank you for this oh my god. I would have included these points had I been able to find sources for them. But after scouring the internet I only found two sources, one of them I had to manually translate (badly) from Russian. There’s so little out there on this project in English.
@@AnimarchyHistory more on this story in russian was told by Thorneyed from Poltava in this video: ua-cam.com/video/E6CUXwzL8KE/v-deo.htmlsi=78G5wcQp5-ZGdMTj It was basically a funny reading of what seems to be a legitimate source on the matter. This video has more details about this story from start of this project to its end. I canN'T confirm that it is a 100% accurate source, but looks absurd enough to be truth xD
Quotas produced many hilarius products. Like fluorescent tubes that were so heavy, they didn't stay in the brackets. Quota was being met by the glass consumption and not by amount by produced lightbars.. And there were many products that were being made like that.
I met someone who flew IL-2 (and other planes) during the war. He told me that the IL-2 was one of the worst aircraft ever flown. The engine lost power with every flight, barely managing to get the aircraft off the ground towards the end. The smell from the engine compartment was unbearable, and it leaked fluids everywhere possible. The aircraft always wanted to roll in the direction of the motor and was difficult to keep stable. The flaps would jam during tight turns or wouldn't function at all. Additionally, replacement parts for the aircraft were often not delivered but falsely declared as delivered or not issued because corrupt Russians only 'sold' the parts to mechanics and pilots. Many IL-2 pilots had to guard their planes at night because other pilots would steal parts from other aircraft at night, even if they didn't need them. The IL-2 is portrayed far too favorably in that video.
Not only the IL-2, but the rest of the Soviet aircraft at the end of the war seem to have been somewhat exaggerated in their superiority. For example: Messerschmitt Bf 109 pilots were instructed not to get into air combat with the Yak-3 because they were supposed to focus on Soviet bombers, not out of fear of the Yak-3. The entire history of the Soviet aerospace industry has been characterized by production problems due to uneducated factory workers, but after 1943, thanks to parts from the Allies, the Soviets are suddenly producing "самый лучший в мире" (the best in the world) aircraft that, from what it looks like, had absolutely no flaws. This sounds like pure Soviet propaganda, and from the fact that Luftwaffe pilots flying a combat mission in the West were 7.66 times more likely to be destroyed than pilots flying a similar mission in the East, one can infer how dangerous Soviet aircraft actually were during World War II.
@@liesdamnlies3372 Hard to believe that, considering the Soviet Union shot down a U-2 weather research aircraft flown by some dude named Gary Powers, and claimed that he was actually a CIA agent conducting high-altitude reconnaissance over the USSR, but such claims are ridiculous! What else could Powers be doing flying over the USSR with an aircraft equipped with advanced high-altitude cameras beyond weather observation? The US would never lie to the people, unlike the filthy communists!
23:41 It actually came to my attention that there’s a game that covers the Czech militant group as they crossed Russia and now I’ve been meaning to pick it up
1:12:23 Duralumin is not a "lower quality early form of aluminum", it is an archaic trade name for the same 2017 and 2024 alloys used in aircraft today.
Of all the cameos, habituallinecrosser was not on my expectations. This was absolutely brilliant And now that I finished it holy fuck your best work to date. And I think your videos are well researched and straight bangers.
That F-22 is desperate to get a kill... the notion that he can take pride in "being so damned terrifying that nothing sane wants to fight him" does not appear to occur to him.
Thank you for not trolling us Animarchy. For a minute there I thought you were baiting us on about the Soviet aviation video. Now if you would do your promised video on the Soviet relationship with fascism both pre and post-WWII.
Stalin viewed Hitler like a potential pawn to weaken the West and would likely have taken the opportunity to expand his influence in the aftermath right up until Operation Barbarossa happened.
Gestapo and NKVD collaborations, trade agreements, Schlachtegher line, (pre war, might be more, like Italy) Post war is Hexel Keppler Group, Reich Socialist Party, and more
Now please bring up every single treaty and pact the Imperialist powers made with Germany prior to the Molotov-ribontrop pact. Whilst they were appeasing Hitler with the Munich agreement, the Soviets wanted to jointly invade Germany. Of course the Imperialist powers never would because they saw the Soviets as the greater threat (they were). Dispell bourgeois myths and notions and study history. This video is an hour and a half of slander.
@sonwig5186 Now sorry man, but that's just pure bullshit. Unlike the USSR, Britain nullified the effects of the Munich agreement and isn't trying to act as if it was a good idea, we all make mistakes. But the Soviet Union and nowadays Russia have on many occasions not just downplayed their pact with Germany but have even straight up lied about it. Trying to pretend that it never even existed in the first place.
@@sonwig5186 And the only thing worse than that is the stereotypical "Oh, we'd've helped with the destruction of Germany. We were saying so while you were signing the Munich Agreement." Neither Poland nor Romania would've let the Red army through.
The I-16, was not outclassed in the Spanish civil war. The only fighter that could actually match it at that time, was the bf-109-E1, that was introduced at the end of the war. Pls read the book by the US pilot Frank Tinker, who flew the I-16 in combat, and where the first pilot to down a 109.
Well it was good while it lasted, really good (despite the shortcomings of still very young soviet aircraft industry). But for 1941, when it still was a main plane...like it almost always happened in 30`s and 40`s, soviet designs were very far from industry capabilities, so more modern planes still had their engines in small numbers/in development, very much like UK.
Fun fact, which I only found out recently, about Lend Lease to the USSR, half of the entire production run of the Hawker Hurricane went to the Soviet Union.
And a fair number of Hurricanes were buried after the war to avoid having to be paid back They were uncovered during trench digging in Ukraine about a year ago
Lend Lease saved the Soviets arse. About 20% of all Soviet war resources was from Lend Lease. It's arrival in the early stages of the war was absolutely critical. Also LL kit was better than Soviet stuff. Of course the USSR wrote this fact out of their version of WW2. Much in the same way they glossed over their alliance with Hitler pre 1941. A bunch of lying ingrates.
@@daniellarge9784 Non-aggression pact isn't the same as an alliance and the USSR was the last European power to enter into an agreement with the Nazis of any sort. L-L equipment was not universally better. For instance, the P-39 Air Cobra was hated among Soviet pilots for the tendency for its coolant to freeze in altitude and its inadequate strut bracing for the harsh runways it encountered. I'll add this additional context for Lend-Lease. In 1942 the Soviet economy was over-mobilized due to the economic losses of 1941-42 and L-L provided just enough to help the USSR survive and go on the counteroffensive. Zhukov himself credited L-L with enabling the 1942 counteroffensives. The Soviets had mostly survived Barbarossa with limited external supplies, but did have extensive help on other fronts from the British. Still the USSR survived mostly on their own efforts; 1942 was the decisive year and L-L was critical to keeping the USSR in the war; from 1943 on it was very necessary to keep the Soviets on the offensive and economically recovering from the damage of 1941-42. Bottom line is that L-L and other fronts initiated by the Allies were vital to keep the USSR from collapsing, as it provided the margin for the Soviets to survive and recover. Without it they implode during 1942 despite their best efforts internally. Of course without the Soviet's best internal efforts L-L wouldn't have been enough on it's own, so please don't assume I'm saying that the efforts of the Soviets at rescuing their own economy and fighting so hard was a minor factor; it was vital and the majority of the reason the Soviets survived, just not enough on it's own.
^*"People" with 90% probability of misleading usernames, working for a Kremlin's trollfarm. **(About 100% of negative discrediting comments made before time to see any length of the video are targetted discrediting campaigns, once headed by Prigozhin.)
28:00 Enter stage left- Józef Stalin And the fkin oversized, terrible design of a plane that landed in a museum as exhibit A on how not to do a plane being named in glory of Stalin is fkin comedic gold
@@Horible4War thunder is absolutely ahistorical, but that doesn't mean Russia has never made a successful plane. The Mig 21 is right there after all lol
@@r.u.s.e3586 what? The MiG-21 has one of the worst performance records of any aircraft, and surely THE worst performance record of any jet aircraft to see combat. With 240 kills to 501 losses in the air. That is an abysmal 2 aircraft to kill 1 ratio. That means if 2 MiG-21s showed up to fight any 1 aircraft, they were both highly likely to lose that fight lmao.
Oh it's coming. Remember, this shitshow started when pacman wanted to make a video about the SU-57. And then had to make even more stuff just to explain how russia got to that point. Because it's that bad.
My grandfather flew a Douglas Dakota for the RCAF in WW2. After the war, he stayed on for a year and a half, flying POWs and refugees around Europe until the end of 1946. On one trip, they took a group of Russian POWs back to the Soviet Union. He and his crew slept in shifts in their aircraft while it was parked, armed with Thompson submachine guns, to guard against the Russian ground crews who would try to steal the flight instruments out of the plane.
that "the universe was created and everyone agreed it was a bad move" joke just NEVER gets old to me. it's a timeless classic of a joke. much like life & the universe itself.
This is the same way that Dan Carlin's "quick episode on Cleopatra" for Hardcore History turned into the 5-episode epic that is Death Throes of the Republic.
a slight correction mate: 1:12:23 - duralumin is not lower quality of aluminium, but actually stronger alloy - that was used in aviation for very long time, and is even used nowadays.
@@murphy7801 its not the point. The point is the heavy bias of the so called 'documentary' and therefore it's scientific/historical basics. Actually no one has ever used pure aluminium for anything structural. Structural aluminium is always a alloy as pure aluminium has pretty poor performance. While there are of cause myriads on negatively hillariou strories from rusian military ther may be as many looking closely to americal military history.
@@dilbert0815 I would say that there is a myriad of dumb arse stories from American and any military around the world, however Russian military is suffering from really bad case of bad politicians ... even Stalin was doing purges when everybody warned him that Germany will invade - that's pretty dumb in my book.
Well the IL2 actually was. It was vital for the Soviets. It fulfilled such an important roll, and did so in such an exceptionally effective way that it certainly can be seen as vital as bread. And I’m not even arguing it destroyed tons of tanks or anything like that.
Pokryshkin achieved most of his kills on a Bell P-39. This fact was, of course, carefully redacted from his memoirs (except that they named their squadron dog "Cobra" after P-39).
It's taughtin in schools in Russia that Pokryshkin flew P-39 most of the time. And he was not the only pilot who scored more than 50 airplanes. There also pilots who scored more than 50 airplanes flying La-5 and Yak-9
You can tell this guy is Australian by the premier being literally midnight central European time. Imma guess it's pretty long too. See ya tomorrow instead.
@@marcogenovesi8570 get your head out of your arse. Americans don't have a monopoly on things. And there are ~100 million more people living in the EU than in the US.
@@Anonymous-zu7dh Oh really? And how many of those can understand spoken english? I can guarantee you that in my country it's a small minority. Any english-speaking youtuber has seen the metrics and can tell you that Murcans are a big (if not overwhelming) slice of their audience
About Italy outproducing Russia in World War I... The original Caproni factory is still around, turned into a museum in walking distance from Malpensa Airport.
Everyone outproduced russia in WWI. Even austro-hungary. Russian empire was an absolutely pathetic country, and its wonder how it even survived till 1917 with how bad everything was.
It might be that the country was so disorganised that the revolution uite simply couldn't get started until 1917. Not much has changed.@@alexturnbackthearmy1907
It's ironic that the USSR attempted to produce all war materials domestically to avoid weapons manufacturing in foreign countries like in WWI, only to "buy" foreign weapons in WWII.
@@jimjamautoThey didn't have the US' insane production capacity. I mean, halfway in 1944 America had to SLOW DOWN PRODUCTION, and they weren't anywhere neark peak yet...
Russia is a country that has every natural and human advantage over it's peers, and so SHOULD have the edge over every other country in every conceivable metric. That Russia has always been behind it's peers, that it even HAS peers and not just chasers, is a travesty. Russia needs not just a new kind of leadership, but a whole new kind of political culture.
It is sad really. Individual russians (designers/engineers) were quite capable but the authoritarian/communist/socialist government made it all but impossible for the industry/economy to produce quality products.
This video really just highlights the constant decrepid state of russian society. When a majority of the population is content existing without advancement and the few skilled individuals decide to aid the west in technological development, it says a lot about the bleakness of russia....
Yeah, when I heard that I looked at the time and thought "an hour and a half isn't ridiculous..." I watched an 8 hour long Battletech lore video the other day, this is nothing!
Its really telling that the average WW2 Soviet fighter pilot's most highly-regarded plane was an American design gotten via Lend-Lease because the average American fighter pilot considered it a fucking deathtrap.
You mean the P-39? There's multiple reasons why it got the popular perception in US it had, but being a bad plane is not one of it. It wasn't even considered a deathtrap, it got mixed reputation at worst for multiple reasons.
@@ComradePhoenix shifted center of gravity also adds extra agility to it, its a matter of pilot training. Soviet pilots were trained on mig-3 and i-16 beforehand, but for Americans it was novelty. As long as pilot knows what theyre doing its not a big issue
In addition to the fact that the American P-39 and P-40 were decent low altitude fighters, I think the main reason Russian pilots loved them was they... didn't randomly fall apart mid-air or have their fuel tanks fall out.
They loved them because they didn’t overheat which was the big problem with yak-1 fighters. The fuel tanks falling out is completely comical. The fuel tanks are internal. How the fuck can they fall out?
@Shibes770 Comparing to Soviet designs, oh yes it was. Part of the reason 76mm guns took so long to be mounted into Shermans was because the Army didn't want to have Firefly Sydrome of absolutely rancid ergonomics
@@Shibes770I think its better to conceive "comfort" of this time as being the absence of active discomfort rather than the presence of positive comfort
Id say that the Russians did a pretty good job developing their aircraft considering all the factors that contributed to the difficulty of producing them. The narrative consistently brings up how poor and broke the country was, yet fails to mention what a monumental achievement it was for such a poor and broken country to produce such machines.
Great, so it was a monumental achievement to build an aircraft that is competent with pathetic materials in inadequate shops. The jezail is a magnificent achievement given where it is produced but compared with its competitors, it wasn't much.
It worked out, in the end. He may been a warmongering dictator, but at least soviet union was ready for war and not plagued with endless disagreement and underdevelopment due to it. It worked only because of lenin authority over other parties before, and went only downhill from 20`s till stalin times. Decades of ideological development of socialist state were burned to create working economy.
In the very early XXth century, a Russian politician said "we just need a couple of decades of peace" to transition Russia into modernity. Yet WWI happened.
When I was a boy in communist Poland I was given a biography of Myasishchev as a gift. I read it with interest. But it wasn't until around 1990 that I came across an explanation of such a vague chapter, how they somehow designed planes with Tupolev and Petalkov sort of locked up.... Well, they were locked in a prison design office.... PS. Anyway, I would gladly get rid of a few insinuations. E.g., how Mikoyan with Gurievich derided Polikarpov. PS.2. Oh, yes, there was a longer piece about how Myasishchev, directed to oversee Pe-2 production, sent designers to oversee production quality and fix errors in newly built aircraft, because the quality was abysmal.
I am from Eastern European country, and you did not even touch the surface on how bad Russian fighters were. I am dying out of laughter if someone told to me that Russian weapons are rugged and reliable 😂😂😂 We had MiG-29 when I was at conscription in Air defence, and that planes were so absurdly unreliable that was beyond any limits. About 20% of airplanes were able to even take off. They were so unesufull that we used MiG-21 for air policing and their radars were not able to spot civilian aircraft in 10 000m, localising enemy jets... maybe B-52 if the weather would have been nice 😂😂😂 So air defence of Czechoslovakia was basically ground defence trying to navigate fighter jets to their target. And the funniest thing? When our pilots went to Soviet Union, it was even worse. 😂😂😂 Do you know what is absurdly rugged and reliable? JAS-39 Gripen, we maintain them nearly on the level of civilian jets and 100% of them work. 😅 Even "sensitive" F-16V that Slovaks have bought needs about one sixth of maintenance hours per flight hour then rugged and reliable MiG-29 😂😂😂
The La-7 and Yak-3 were genuinely some of the best machines to take to the skies in world war 2. This is what happens when you give your talented guys time and resources instead of the horrendous hands they were played years earlier, they will COOK.
Don't to know how many times I've seen some Socialist call Lenin's New Economic Plan Socialism. Despite quite obviously being a privatization of many necessary industries to help rebuild the USSR's economy after the Civil War and early failures in economic policies under Lenin. Lenin was surprisingly smart enough to realize well shoot that didn't work... and realized maybe this privatization thing really does help build economies. Pity Stalin despised this and would dismantle almost every positive thing Lenin's New Economic Policy brought to the USSR. Imagine, a Dictator and Socialist privatizing some sectors of the economy to boost said sectors of the economy regardless of their Socialist beliefs. Shocking really.. *Sarcasm*
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Correction: in the video I stated that Duralumin is an earlier form of Aluminium. This is not strictly correct. Duralumin alloys are an aluminium alloy which were and are used in aviation. The reason I chose to describe it that way is to separate the poorer quality less advanced alloy compositions used by the Soviets from Western and Japanese Duralumin alloys. Also fun fact, the Japanese aluminium alloys used in the Zero were more advanced than anything in the western aviation industry, so much so that US companies reverse engineered it. Leading to the high quality aircraft aluminium alloys used today. So it wasn’t just a Euro-American race.
Well guys, the long awaited tale of how the Russian Fighter Force began, developed and failed spectacularly upwards has finally arrived. From epic failure to calamitous catastrophe to a soaring triumph over fascism.
This is the story of the early days of Russian fighter design. From 1908 to 1946. Featuring our cast of intrepid heroes as they try to bring Russia's fighters to life, while keeping their own.
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Soviet Combat Aircraft of the Second World War: Volume One (1998)
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Mikoyan’s Piston-Engine Fighters (2003)
OKB Mikoyan: A History of the Design Bureau and its Aircraft (2009)
Polikarpov's I-16 Fighter: Its Forerunners and Progeny (2002)
(And all his other associated works that are far too numerous to list here. Go read them)
LaGG and Lavochkin Aces of the Second World War (2002) - George Mellingher
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The Russian Military Air Fleet in World War I, Volume One (2010) - August Blume
The Imperial Russian Air Service: Famous Pilots & Aircraft of World War One (1995) - Victor Kulikov
Russian Aero-Piston Engines (2005) - Vladimir Kotelnikov
World Encyclopedia of Aero-Engines (1989) - Bill Gunston
Lavochkin Fighters of the Second World War (2017) - Jason Moore
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Was it really that bad?
why do you keep saying 2 million fascists when it was 3.3mil nazis and 1mil axis allies?
@@glubokayaoperatsiya because it was 2.7 million Germans and 1.1 million allies. Not 3.8 million Germans.
Also. It’s just quicker and easier to say.
@@AnimarchyHistory Good call!
And surprised you bothered, that was NOT a friend.
You know, as the prop age went on, they really seemed to figure out props towards the end of ww2. I’m sure jets went smoothly, right?
The existence of R&D gulags makes me imagine the possibility of HR gulags, marketing gulags, and IT gulags.
"marketing gulags" bro those are just call centers
HR gulag is a great idea. Just ignore the suggestions and information that come out of them .
HR Gulag.... so a Gulag in charge of sending people to a gulag.
"HR" is already a Gulag. LOL
DEI gulags
An engine falling out of the sky and landing on the Russian Knight is frankly the most Russian thing ever.
Same with Soviet paratroopers having to jump with no parachute, just relying on good ol' thick snow. For joke reasons this was before the fund to get them on the proper foundation.
@@stalinsoulz7872 For the longest time I thought that was just a Hetalia joke but nope turns out it was real.
The front fell off.
@@SonOfAB_tch2ndClass Was it REALLY real though? Do you have a source? I mean sure it's Russia so it's not hard to believe, but even still...
And all the witnesses went to gulag, because let us not forget that exile to Siberia was going strong before the C20th
"I'd intercept me"
-mentaly stable aircraft
😂
Just wait until his son comes. He can intercept himself.
I was looking for this comment.
ah i see....a man of culture
Be afraid, be very afraid
"Mr. Putin how would you comment on the criticism against the Su-57?"
"Before we start, I would like to do a quick 30 second to a minute historical recap if that's okay? So we must return to the year 1908 at the Kyiv Polytechnic Institute..."
I don't even want to think how many beers Animarchy went through trying to put together this video.
Truck. The number is truck. A truckload of beer.
@@portmoneulyour forgot some "s" behind some of the vokabulary.
@@Speedy2619 apologies, English is not my native language, I was impling that the unit of measuring how many beers Animarchy consumed will be measured in trucks, not bottles, not cases, but trucks.
And remember, part 2 coming up
I Trink its due to you that the genre rule of “military history video must have pentagon wars soundtrack in it” was established.
And now its such a cemented rule, that it appears on tsarist blunderstories as background.
I like it, but it is a funny thing I have noted, it seems to be ubiquitous by now.
@@portmoneul I think he may need vodkha next time
Every Russian history video about anything has a section "And then came Stalin".
When you fly you have to be careful about Stalin...
He threw everyone into GULAG
or the 90s.
1:12:24 "made of duraluninium, essentialy lower quality early form of aluminium" can you back that up with any science, reference? duraluminium is better than aluminium and is still today used in aircraft manufacturing and space. Where do you pull out "lower quality early form" out? i know you have huge british arse, but how? ass didler1:12:24 "made of duraluninium, essentialy lower quality early form of aluminium" can you back that up with any science, reference? duraluminium is better than aluminium and is still today used in aircraft manufacturing and space. Where do you pull out "lower quality early form" out? i know you have huge british arse, but how? ass didler
Suddenly, STALIN
I used to think the phrases “and then it got worse” and “then along came Stalin” were more memes than anything else. Turns out it describes pretty much all of the USSRs history fairly accurately.
It's actually an old Russian joke. "Hw could you best describe Russian history?" "And then, somehow, it got worse."
Rule 1 of Russian history: Nothing ever improves for the Russians.
My favorite phrasing for this was in Mike Duncan’s “Revolutions” podcast season on the Russian Rev(s): “But this is Russian history, where happy endings are illegal”
Watch Drachnifels video about the Second Pacific Squadron!! And then it got worse!
@@DavidLium-jk8kr ... and the Kamchatka.
I'm very glad you mentioned the Czechoslovak legion in the video as they were absolute gigachads. Czechs want to go home, Czechs get told no and are labelled enemies of the Russian state, Czechs steal a train, Czechs proceed to win every battle despite being outnumbered, Czechs arrive in Vladovostok, there's no boat, Czechs steal a boat, Czechs win a naval battle, Czechs go home, the game last train home does a great job telling the story too
In one of the battles the legion got ahold of the Imperial gold reserve and evil tongues say that not all of it was handed over later in exchange for a truce with the reds, so they also possibly stole about a country's worth of gold. If the czechoslovak legion did not exist someone should have made it up, because I can't imagine a more cinematic scenario than a band of veteran soldiers suddenly finding themselves in the middle of a foreign civil war and the only way out being a distant port on the other side of Siberia. Someone should have pitched it to the Holywood while they still made good films, but at least we have the game now
Nice, never heard of that series of events before, good info
WOW CHECK LEGION 😮
@@katjamuller5503 need a movie.
I still cant believe the first ever quad-engine aircraft died via Looney Tunes gag.
This is russia we are talking about lmao
If you told me a Russian general died taking cover during a artillery barrage because a anvil fell from the floor above I would believe you
By now most people should know Russia is completely incompetent. The only interesting thing to me about Russia is those legends about the Red Cauldrons of Yakutia.
Wait wtf did I miss??
I didn't see anything about this
@@anything.with.motors
No, you're right.
It's not in the video.
The Red Cauldrons are a yakutian anomalous series of domed structures that might be responsible for a great many things of high strangeness and origin. It's a niche conspiracy theory. You kinda have to dig on the internet to read about them from every small scrap of information. They are the only legend besides the Ancient Slavic deities that I find remotely interesting about North Asia and North-Eastern Asia/Eastern Europe. The USSR is a sad pathetic story of misery, woe incompetence and complete stupidity and paranoid fools.
'Some guy called Archie Duke shot an ostrich because he was hungry " ahh..... classic Blackadder
Wibble
Stupid joke
"BALDERICK..."
@@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462 No E.
Best season of the show, no matter how inaccurate it was.
I'm starting to see why the famous "Night Witches" had to make do with obsolete biplanes lacking proper insulation.
Imagine if they had proper planes
@Dunkopf
To be fair a big advantage of those crappy little planes they had was the lack of a need for large fixed airfields, so it might actually have been worse if they'd been "better" equipped.
Perhaps the opinion Germans had for them could be helpful...
@@Dunkopfthey would be heard miles away
@@georgyekimov4577I mean every plane can be heard multiple miles away.
"What is beyond dispute is that the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is widely considered to have been a bad idea."
That got me properly cackling... Well played. 😂
Its a line from the Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy
Yeah what’s with the blatant plagiarism? His use of Bill Wurtz’ material at 11:09 without credit feels gross too.
@@jf4226He’s some kind of weird communarchist or something. Just a typical subversive element that happens to make decent videos here and there, much like lazerpig (who is “former” intelligence I might add).
He likely believes it is “the peoples work” or “because laws are bullshit lol anarchy”. Thus, in his mind, he gets to freely use whatever he wishes for the betterment of his video.
Vogons, hold my beer.
My grandfather flew IL 2 during the war. Over the course of three years, he lost four gunners, returned more than a dozen times with the fuselage almost completely shot through, and was even shot down twice, but each time he landed the aircraft. This plane was not just called a flying tank, it really was one.
A magical machine. It really was.
@@AnimarchyHistory And one of deadliest aircraft for its crew. Only few made it to the end of war, and you can probably cover a country or two with remaning Il-2 debris, even in present day.
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907But hey, it was one of the most produced aircraft in 2ww, of course, the statistics will be more depressing. Isn't it easy?
@@pavelchernyshev8964 They are not just more depressing. Almost all planes made were lost during war in combat, as expected from slow, heavy plane, that cant really stand for itself against any fighters and fighter-bombers, constantly operating on frontline, near ground where all AA is.
So, @@AnimarchyHistory imagine if the Soviets had the Il-10M with 4 23 mm guns, that'd be a field day for the pilots to shoot at thin sides of Panthers and Panzer IVs
Animarchy: "if we keep fostering our economic growth and the passion of our workers we can-"
Joseph Stalin: (interrupts your sentence) -"and everyone died, the end"
"You're too good at what you do. 5000 years gulag!"
1:12:24 "made of duraluninium, essentialy lower quality early form of aluminium" can you back that up with any science, reference? duraluminium is better than aluminium and is still today used in aircraft manufacturing and space. Where do you pull out "lower quality early form" out? i know you have huge british arse, but how? ass didler
@@JRyan-lu5im too good... which is suspicious of capitalist intentions and operations. Your assets are now the state's, and Gulag will correct your hetetical political ideologies.
Advisor: "The people can't eat guns!"
Stalin: *"Then they can eat bullets."*
“It appeared that the Russians/Soviets held an advantage at the time.
Unfortunately, this was a facade.”
Tale as old as time.
1:12:23 Aeronautics engineer here. Duralumin is an aluminum alloy which offers a more favorable strength to weight ration over steel. It is basically stronger then regular aluminum, while still being very light. Such alloys are still widely used today. In Western aviation mostly 2024 series alloys are used while the Russians use D16 and D16T.
I guess you meant not a lower grade aluminum, but an alloy that was just out of spec and shit.
Basically. For the people who aren’t aeronautical engineers. It was a way of me differentiating the refined alloys used by the other nations and the high quality Magnesium/Zinc Aluminium alloys used today.
From the Soviet grade stuff which was… yeah.
It’s easier to say and gets across that “the zero or Mustang this ain’t” without having to go into specific grades.
Marine Engineer here. May I edit?
"Duralumin when properly manufactured is stronger......."
@@TheDroppedAnchor As I was saying, guess he meant out of spec and shit, i dont have the sources he is looking at.
@@AnimarchyHistory I perhaps am slightly autistic, but it offends me when people confuse grade and quality.
Grade defines specific standards and charecteristics of a material (chemical composition, tensile strenght etc.) The D16, common in soviet aviation, is analog to ISO/western 2024 grade aluminium in terms of specs as it is just their designation as per GOST standard. I however have no idea what grade would be used on a soviet early ww2 fighter, as I am more familiar with their helicopters.
Quality defines adherence to these defined charecteristics and standards - the product being either as advertised or out of specification and garbage.
Industrial chemist here. I used to develop passive cleaning compounds for duralumin for aerospace applications. Duralumin is a remarkable alloy but prone to chemical attack. This is why so much effort has been put into surface coatings for this material. The tech of surface coatings was pushed into the future by this alloy.
I'm now picturing you and Laserpig somehow conveying all this history in a musical with the Horrible Histories title.
I would watch that.
(Addendum to the stealth video)... The SU-57 isn't ACTUALLY stealth... Unless you're drunk... And it's night... And it's painted black... And the radars are turned off...
Get Brian from OK Champ for head costumer
Not gonna lie, this would be one hell of a watch with cold coke and some popcorn
He should offer to take LP on a tour of the Aussie tank museum.
Smaller than Bovington, but what isn't?
11:03 morbid fact. Sophie was pregnant, so Gavrilo Princip killed three if you count the unborn child
Yes yes this is exactly what I was looking for on a video about Sukhoi Fat Useless Femboy (that doesn't even show up at all)
What the heck, all knowledge is good
We all know.. she made her choice!
The most Soviet conversation ever:
“Comrade, the plane is so nose heavy it tends to nose over on takeoff and destroy itself”
“Hang on to tail”
“WHAT?”
“Ride the tail and weigh it down, then when plane is in air, jump off”
“You’re serious?”
“Da, Comrade”
Sikorsky really was an absolute Chad visionary wasn't he.
He just went "fuck this shit im out"
@@dilophosaursniper5399 Just shows he had more brains than most!
1:12:24 "made of duraluninium, essentialy lower quality early form of aluminium" can you back that up with any science, reference? duraluminium is better than aluminium and is still today used in aircraft manufacturing and space. Where do you pull out "lower quality early form" out? i know you have huge british arse, but how? ass didler
It's disgusting that Wikipedia lists him as Russian-American. Yeah Kyiv was under Russian control when he was born, but we don't call people who were born in France under Nazi occupation "Germans", that's not how it works.
@@sundoga4961 Sikorsky's family was on the kill list of the Soviets as his father worked directly for the old tsar and its military.
So to summarise;
The Russian airforce did not really fall behind, they were just mostly behind from the very start.
And every time things seem to be getting better slowly, the Soviet Government punches itself in the dick
I'd say it's 40k Ork technology, but that actually works because they believe it does. So it's more appropriate to call this Skaven technology
1:12:24 "made of duraluninium, essentialy lower quality early form of aluminium" can you back that up with any science, reference? duraluminium is better than aluminium and is still today used in aircraft manufacturing and space. Where do you pull out "lower quality early form" out? i know you have huge british arse, but how? ass didler
@@dx-ek4vr not so long ago, whenever someone called Russians orks, I would automatically assume they were being ironic. Nowadays I know they're not.
If you find something you're good at.....
20:25 technically there were 4 Ukrainian states.
1. The Ukrainian People's Republic with capital in Kyiv
2. The Western Ukrainian People's Republic, with capital defacto Lviv, dejure depended on what territory they held - Ternopil, Mostysko, Stanislawiw, Buchachiv, Chortkiv, Viden (they later united with the UPR)
3. The Soviet Socialist Ukrainian People's Republic set up as a puppet government by the Russian Bolsheviks, with the capital in Kharkiv
4. The anarchist Free Territories, with the the capital in Huliaipole.
“The Ilya Muromets”
BF1 players: *Nervous sweating*
The sheer irony of the god king Emperor of America's Rotary Aviation help create Russia's Air Force
1:12:24 "made of duraluninium, essentialy lower quality early form of aluminium" can you back that up with any science, reference? duraluminium is better than aluminium and is still today used in aircraft manufacturing and space. Where do you pull out "lower quality early form" out? i know you have huge british arse, but how? ass didler
It's not that weird since the two countries were allies back then
It didn’t hurt that the Soviets sentenced Sikorsky as a Tsarist to death.
And technically, after WW1, the Us was not an ally of Russia. The US didn’t recognize the Soviet government until the mid 1930s
Not bigger irony than the fact that almost the entire chief stuff of Hollywood were Jews from the former Russian Empire and that guys from the Balkans established the electrical and the computer industries in the USA and drawed the blueprints of the B 17 and the Lunar Module. It's a country build by immigrants (on the land of the First Nations). Additional information (unfortunally in Russian) about another Russian Empire aviators who was founders of big American aircraft corporations displays a guy with the nickname "hackmyth" on UA-cam.
@@miguelservetus9534 a famous myth. If he was a Tsarist or some other opposition, he would join the Whites. British-Slavic Air Corps as a pilot or engineer in one of Anatra aircraft factories. But he was more money and fame fan, thus did what he did - abandoned dying father and his pregnant wife (who got herself employed by the Red government later, btw) and freely traveled to London through Murmansk. You see, even the real enemies of the Soviets, like Krasnov, were cruelly tortured by release on parole. Pity the boat of Bolshevik humanism has crushed into the rocks of enemies' terrorism
My favorite Russian fighter is the Parade Fighter. AKA that time the Soviets welded pipes to the front of a bunch of unarmed jets to look like giant cannons because they didn't have engines powerful enough to lift the guns they wanted, air frames that wouldn't fly apart when the gun they wanted fired, or a loading mechanism that wouldn't eject spent shells directly into the air intakes. But they thought the west would think they looked scary as hell because they incorrectly assumed the west took all their claims at face value.
To be fair, there were a lot of times where they actually did; for example, they saw the absolutely massive MiG-25 and its wide wings, huge intakes, twin tails, and massive engine nozzles and thought this was a highly agile superfighter that would eat Phantoms alive in close-in dogfights instead of the flying brick of an interceptor it actually was.
There was also the fact that the West usually wouldn't know about the prices being paid for all the stuff being shown until much much later, such as the aforementioned parade fighter not being able to shoot any kind of gun without risk of engine failures due to gun gas ingestion, or their brand-spankin'-new supersonic bomber (the original Blinder) being more likely to eat its own pilots before doing the same to the city it was aiming for.
It wouldn’t eject shells into the air intake, what would happen is if you fired the guns the fumes, would kill the engines by rushing into the air intake if you fired the middle cannon not to mention the bottom of the airplane, eventually deforming due to heat from the engines because of poor engine placement they did paint the bottom black at least that was a smart idea. Over all great concept poor execution.
@@jdreyes3745 The West assumed the Mig 25 was built out of state of the art light weight materials, which would have made it more analogous to the F15 in terms of manueverability and T2W ratio based on the design rather than the brick it was due to its heavy construction.
@@hydrastrike2699 Well yeah. The West tends to understate it's capabilities, so when the Yanks found out about the Mig 25 they thought "oh fuck" then F-15. Puffing your stats is fine unless your opposition is a paranoid superpower with a hugely advanced military-industrial complex and money to burn.
About half of this screed is wrong.
Please tell me you’re going to make a part 2 for the jet age, you’d make everyone’s day
Russian bias wasnt patched in back then.
A few points about И-220 of Silvanskiy.
0. Before getting the work of И-220, Silvanskiy proposed two aircraft projects inspired by Polikarpov's planes (because Silvanskiy was practicing and working on Polikarpov's factory). For the first time he was rejected softly (i.e. the first project of a non-experienced engineer, you'd need to do some research on the matter). While the second one was completely destroyed by the comission for the same reason (on the comission there were Polikarpov himself, Dubrovin, Pashinin, and some other experienced aircraft designers of the time).
1. Most of the engineers he took with him were from the bureau of Dmitriy Pavlovich Grigorovich, who has recently passed away (was not killed by NKVD, but passed away). Who was a father of the first hydroplan, as far as I remember.
2. The issue with the engine appeared because of a very funny fact. The initial project of the И-220 plane was in fact a Polikarpov's attempt to improve the И-16, the project of И-164. Works on this project were not finalized as when the information about the newer engines appeared, Polikarpov went designing his new plane that would eventually become И-185 (a very decent fighter of its time in theory). While the project of И-164 was archived. And it was a common practice of a Soviet Union to provide newly created bureaus such archived projects to work on and to improve them (the МиГ bureau (Jesus Christ this word hurts my ukrainian brain to write everytime) was born in this way). So in the end, Silvanskiy, having engineers of one KB experienced to work with one aircraft, received a project of another aircraft, and an engine of a new design NOT for this aircraft. And while Polikarpov ignored these issues becuase the И-164 was designed for an old engine, Silvanskiy didn't notice this fact on blueprints and it appeared to be an issue when the engine itself arrived to the factory.
3. Before sawing off the propeller, there were multiple other attempts to 'fix' the issue, and let me put a few corrections here. First, Silvanskiy offered to extend the landing gear WITHOUT CHANGING THEIR POSITIONS ON THE WINGS WHAT THE F**K WAS HE THINKING ABOUT. That didn't work, the landing gear was not folding in its places. Then he was offered to move the guns (what's left of them anyway) further away and move the lending gear to these positions for them to be able to fold. Silvanskiy rejected this idea. Then he order to place more powerful pneumatic shock absorbers to compensate for the poor clearance. The gear was not folding because of the engine parts. He wrote a letter to the engine designers ordering them (lol) to remove these parts, because I AM QUOTING RIGHT NOW 'The airplane is more important than the engine'. No response was given, so he tried to flatten these parts with the sledgehammer without the necessary results (the engine survived that though). And only after that Silvanskiy went for sawing off the propeller tips.
4. The story of test flights doesn't end on the quote about the 'Shit'. Silvanskiy got offended by these words and asked to give him another pilot for this. And he got one. Who kept his vocabulary polite, but the results of test flights were the same - the plane was barely flying. Silvanskit got offended again. And dragged an active fighter pilot to the cocpit of the aircraft. For those of you don't know, test pilots (I have no idea how this profession actually called) are used to fly unfinished unpolished aircrafts that can do anything during the flight. While the service pilots are used to fly serial machines with predictable and stable behaviour. That was not the case for И-220, so the pilot nearly crashed the plane during the simple maneuver, landed the plane barely, 'Threw his helmet on the ground and left the airfield. What were the words he said at this moment remains uknown' (c).
Thank you for this oh my god. I would have included these points had I been able to find sources for them. But after scouring the internet I only found two sources, one of them I had to manually translate (badly) from Russian.
There’s so little out there on this project in English.
@@AnimarchyHistory more on this story in russian was told by Thorneyed from Poltava in this video: ua-cam.com/video/E6CUXwzL8KE/v-deo.htmlsi=78G5wcQp5-ZGdMTj
It was basically a funny reading of what seems to be a legitimate source on the matter. This video has more details about this story from start of this project to its end. I canN'T confirm that it is a 100% accurate source, but looks absurd enough to be truth xD
@@AnimarchyHistory it's 3 AM and I am tired AF don't judge my typos т_т
@@Chubzic.Look. Being on this level of nerd at 3 in the morning while your country gets invaded gives you pass on spelling errors my friend.
“Qouta was everything”
Mfs where playing lethal company the whole time…
Well this is Russia all company is a lethal one
@@kestrels-in-the-skygood one
Quotas produced many hilarius products. Like fluorescent tubes that were so heavy, they didn't stay in the brackets. Quota was being met by the glass consumption and not by amount by produced lightbars.. And there were many products that were being made like that.
@@samupk amazing 😆. Another fun fact for my autistic archive of a brain.
I met someone who flew IL-2 (and other planes) during the war. He told me that the IL-2 was one of the worst aircraft ever flown. The engine lost power with every flight, barely managing to get the aircraft off the ground towards the end. The smell from the engine compartment was unbearable, and it leaked fluids everywhere possible. The aircraft always wanted to roll in the direction of the motor and was difficult to keep stable. The flaps would jam during tight turns or wouldn't function at all. Additionally, replacement parts for the aircraft were often not delivered but falsely declared as delivered or not issued because corrupt Russians only 'sold' the parts to mechanics and pilots. Many IL-2 pilots had to guard their planes at night because other pilots would steal parts from other aircraft at night, even if they didn't need them. The IL-2 is portrayed far too favorably in that video.
Not only the IL-2, but the rest of the Soviet aircraft at the end of the war seem to have been somewhat exaggerated in their superiority. For example: Messerschmitt Bf 109 pilots were instructed not to get into air combat with the Yak-3 because they were supposed to focus on Soviet bombers, not out of fear of the Yak-3. The entire history of the Soviet aerospace industry has been characterized by production problems due to uneducated factory workers, but after 1943, thanks to parts from the Allies, the Soviets are suddenly producing "самый лучший в мире" (the best in the world) aircraft that, from what it looks like, had absolutely no flaws. This sounds like pure Soviet propaganda, and from the fact that Luftwaffe pilots flying a combat mission in the West were 7.66 times more likely to be destroyed than pilots flying a similar mission in the East, one can infer how dangerous Soviet aircraft actually were during World War II.
You know, I'm really starting to see why Soviet pilots liked the P-39 so much.
Ah, classic Animarchy starting the story 13 billion years ago on a video about one airplane that was made 6 years ago.
Nyet comrade, great Sukhoi Su-57 was made in mid 1990s. F-22 is pathetic American copy that came after. Do not believe American lies, it true!
"one airplane that was made 6 years ago that is allegedly the killer of a plane that was made 20 years ago and is already obsolete by USAF standards.
Backstory a context are important.
@@liesdamnlies3372 Hard to believe that, considering the Soviet Union shot down a U-2 weather research aircraft flown by some dude named Gary Powers, and claimed that he was actually a CIA agent conducting high-altitude reconnaissance over the USSR, but such claims are ridiculous! What else could Powers be doing flying over the USSR with an aircraft equipped with advanced high-altitude cameras beyond weather observation? The US would never lie to the people, unlike the filthy communists!
If your story doesnt start at the big bang its not a whole story.
23:41 It actually came to my attention that there’s a game that covers the Czech militant group as they crossed Russia and now I’ve been meaning to pick it up
Its really good, I would highly recommend it.
@@andrewlechner6343 I see. Seems I know what my next irresponsible purchase will be lol, thanks for the final push
What game?
@@lemoncaketerrorist2921 Last Train Home.
Buy it. It’s the goofiest shit of all time while still being more realistic than cod vanguard.
A history so complex he had to pull a dune, and make it a 2 parter.
1:12:23 Duralumin is not a "lower quality early form of aluminum", it is an archaic trade name for the same 2017 and 2024 alloys used in aircraft today.
Of all the cameos, habituallinecrosser was not on my expectations.
This was absolutely brilliant
And now that I finished it holy fuck your best work to date. And I think your videos are well researched and straight bangers.
He's been on Animarchy's channel before to talk about Patriot
@@Sharky4152 the onnnneeee video in the log I have yet to watch…
Because I watched HBL’s xD
That F-22 is desperate to get a kill... the notion that he can take pride in "being so damned terrifying that nothing sane wants to fight him" does not appear to occur to him.
@@andrewgause6971 Because it's not 105:0
@@spaghettibadger647 True. True.
Thank you for not trolling us Animarchy. For a minute there I thought you were baiting us on about the Soviet aviation video. Now if you would do your promised video on the Soviet relationship with fascism both pre and post-WWII.
Stalin viewed Hitler like a potential pawn to weaken the West and would likely have taken the opportunity to expand his influence in the aftermath right up until Operation Barbarossa happened.
Gestapo and NKVD collaborations, trade agreements, Schlachtegher line, (pre war, might be more, like Italy)
Post war is Hexel Keppler Group, Reich Socialist Party, and more
Now please bring up every single treaty and pact the Imperialist powers made with Germany prior to the Molotov-ribontrop pact. Whilst they were appeasing Hitler with the Munich agreement, the Soviets wanted to jointly invade Germany. Of course the Imperialist powers never would because they saw the Soviets as the greater threat (they were). Dispell bourgeois myths and notions and study history. This video is an hour and a half of slander.
@sonwig5186 Now sorry man, but that's just pure bullshit. Unlike the USSR, Britain nullified the effects of the Munich agreement and isn't trying to act as if it was a good idea, we all make mistakes.
But the Soviet Union and nowadays Russia have on many occasions not just downplayed their pact with Germany but have even straight up lied about it. Trying to pretend that it never even existed in the first place.
@@sonwig5186 And the only thing worse than that is the stereotypical "Oh, we'd've helped with the destruction of Germany. We were saying so while you were signing the Munich Agreement." Neither Poland nor Romania would've let the Red army through.
28:30 It's all fun & games until Grandpa Stalin comes home at 3AM after losing the annual state bowling championship...
The I-16, was not outclassed in the Spanish civil war. The only fighter that could actually match it at that time, was the bf-109-E1, that was introduced at the end of the war. Pls read the book by the US pilot Frank Tinker, who flew the I-16 in combat, and where the first pilot to down a 109.
Well it was good while it lasted, really good (despite the shortcomings of still very young soviet aircraft industry). But for 1941, when it still was a main plane...like it almost always happened in 30`s and 40`s, soviet designs were very far from industry capabilities, so more modern planes still had their engines in small numbers/in development, very much like UK.
It’s like bringing a MiG-15 to desert storm. It’s good at fighting stuff like sabres, but not that great against eagles
@@christopherchartier3017 Yes the I-16 was the eagle of its time. By 1939 it was outdated, and was about to be replaced by the mig-3.
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 I agree
Fun fact, which I only found out recently, about Lend Lease to the USSR, half of the entire production run of the Hawker Hurricane went to the Soviet Union.
And a fair number of Hurricanes were buried after the war to avoid having to be paid back
They were uncovered during trench digging in Ukraine about a year ago
Lend Lease saved the Soviets arse. About 20% of all Soviet war resources was from Lend Lease. It's arrival in the early stages of the war was absolutely critical. Also LL kit was better than Soviet stuff. Of course the USSR wrote this fact out of their version of WW2. Much in the same way they glossed over their alliance with Hitler pre 1941. A bunch of lying ingrates.
@@daniellarge9784 Non-aggression pact isn't the same as an alliance and the USSR was the last European power to enter into an agreement with the Nazis of any sort. L-L equipment was not universally better. For instance, the P-39 Air Cobra was hated among Soviet pilots for the tendency for its coolant to freeze in altitude and its inadequate strut bracing for the harsh runways it encountered. I'll add this additional context for Lend-Lease.
In 1942 the Soviet economy was over-mobilized due to the economic losses of 1941-42 and L-L provided just enough to help the USSR survive and go on the counteroffensive. Zhukov himself credited L-L with enabling the 1942 counteroffensives.
The Soviets had mostly survived Barbarossa with limited external supplies, but did have extensive help on other fronts from the British. Still the USSR survived mostly on their own efforts; 1942 was the decisive year and L-L was critical to keeping the USSR in the war; from 1943 on it was very necessary to keep the Soviets on the offensive and economically recovering from the damage of 1941-42.
Bottom line is that L-L and other fronts initiated by the Allies were vital to keep the USSR from collapsing, as it provided the margin for the Soviets to survive and recover. Without it they implode during 1942 despite their best efforts internally. Of course without the Soviet's best internal efforts L-L wouldn't have been enough on it's own, so please don't assume I'm saying that the efforts of the Soviets at rescuing their own economy and fighting so hard was a minor factor; it was vital and the majority of the reason the Soviets survived, just not enough on it's own.
"but but but, muh russia won ww2 by itself!!!" - russaboos at their least ridiculous
@@jakekaywell5972 nice trolling, they invaded poland and romania and the baltics and finland without cause. none of what you say matters
Video isn't even live yet and the there is already "Why are you so wrong?" comments. Excellent, all is going according to plan.
Less then "great vid" comments form people who had no time to watch it yet.
^*"People" with 90% probability of misleading usernames, working for a Kremlin's trollfarm.
**(About 100% of negative discrediting comments made before time to see any length of the video are targetted discrediting campaigns, once headed by Prigozhin.)
28:00
Enter stage left- Józef Stalin
And the fkin oversized, terrible design of a plane that landed in a museum as exhibit A on how not to do a plane being named in glory of Stalin is fkin comedic gold
So, everything Russian in War Thunder is pure fantasy, paper tanks.
always has been
You still think games that originated in Russia weren't overrating Russian weaponry? Russia has literally never made a successful aircraft.
no it just excludes manufactouring or material faults and is perfectly maintained all the time while being built by top experts
@@Horible4War thunder is absolutely ahistorical, but that doesn't mean Russia has never made a successful plane. The Mig 21 is right there after all lol
@@r.u.s.e3586 what? The MiG-21 has one of the worst performance records of any aircraft, and surely THE worst performance record of any jet aircraft to see combat. With 240 kills to 501 losses in the air. That is an abysmal 2 aircraft to kill 1 ratio. That means if 2 MiG-21s showed up to fight any 1 aircraft, they were both highly likely to lose that fight lmao.
This deserves a part 2. It would be interesting to see how soviet aviation developed into the jet age.
I feel more is coming as this is just Tzar to WW2. No Cold War or Post-Soviet.
Oh it's coming. Remember, this shitshow started when pacman wanted to make a video about the SU-57. And then had to make even more stuff just to explain how russia got to that point. Because it's that bad.
By stealing schemes from the Germans and German engineers
The while point was to do a video on Su-57 😹
He'll probably have to cover cold war jets to make it to the Felon. That's what it is after all.
I was NOT expecting an HLC cameo, but I love it XD
I put this on too take a nap and watch fully later. This literally jump scared me in my dream.
Animarchy has nightmares about HLC's F22
@@generaljedi8691we all have nightmares about that thing “would you intercept me I’d intercept me”
"That boy ain't right."
Excellent decision making there. Clearly someone knows their stuff
My grandfather flew a Douglas Dakota for the RCAF in WW2. After the war, he stayed on for a year and a half, flying POWs and refugees around Europe until the end of 1946.
On one trip, they took a group of Russian POWs back to the Soviet Union. He and his crew slept in shifts in their aircraft while it was parked, armed with Thompson submachine guns, to guard against the Russian ground crews who would try to steal the flight instruments out of the plane.
A lot of Russian history can be summed up in the phrase "and then it got worse."
if the Su-57 ever entered combat NATO would have to change it's name from Felon to Fallen
Or Felloff
And the su 75 would be called Femboy
@@Drauzet oh yes 100%
is there a partition I can sign so NATO makes that official?
coz god dam that is 100% better than the MiG-15
@@Drauzet what is up with the femboy biz with the su 75?
@@harbour2118 it looks like a female f35 and i didn't even think it was possible to make a plane look gendered
that "the universe was created and everyone agreed it was a bad move" joke just NEVER gets old to me.
it's a timeless classic of a joke.
much like life & the universe itself.
Douglas Adams.
And everything.
Great job, your production is top rate ( Outstanding sense of humor)Hope you can continue such excellent work.
This is the same way that Dan Carlin's "quick episode on Cleopatra" for Hardcore History turned into the 5-episode epic that is Death Throes of the Republic.
a slight correction mate: 1:12:23 - duralumin is not lower quality of aluminium, but actually stronger alloy - that was used in aviation for very long time, and is even used nowadays.
It can be misused
@@murphy7801 like every material or construction technique
@@murphy7801 its not the point.
The point is the heavy bias of the so called 'documentary' and therefore it's scientific/historical basics.
Actually no one has ever used pure aluminium for anything structural. Structural aluminium is always a alloy as pure aluminium has pretty poor performance.
While there are of cause myriads on negatively hillariou strories from rusian military ther may be as many looking closely to americal military history.
@@dilbert0815 I would say that there is a myriad of dumb arse stories from American and any military around the world, however Russian military is suffering from really bad case of bad politicians ... even Stalin was doing purges when everybody warned him that Germany will invade - that's pretty dumb in my book.
Stalin saying something is "as vital as bread" might not be a compliment
Well the IL2 actually was. It was vital for the Soviets. It fulfilled such an important roll, and did so in such an exceptionally effective way that it certainly can be seen as vital as bread. And I’m not even arguing it destroyed tons of tanks or anything like that.
Can't wait for part 2, mate... this is awesome and I watched it twice back to back
Ah yes, the recurring theme in Russland: "and then it got worse..."
The famous 3 stole their catchphrase 'still... could be worse'
Damnit.
I agree. The creation of the universe was a catastrophically bad move.
Nice Douglas Adams rip!
So long, and thanks for all the fish.
always remember your towel
All I'm saying is that we should have stayed in the trees
@@arandomkobold8403we should have never left the oceans.
Part 2 will cover fighter development during the Cold War and Part 3 will be the long awaited Su-57 video?
Due to Demand I may be committing a “Felony” first.
@@AnimarchyHistorypun intended?
Pokryshkin achieved most of his kills on a Bell P-39. This fact was, of course, carefully redacted from his memoirs (except that they named their squadron dog "Cobra" after P-39).
It's taughtin in schools in Russia that Pokryshkin flew P-39 most of the time. And he was not the only pilot who scored more than 50 airplanes. There also pilots who scored more than 50 airplanes flying La-5 and Yak-9
If you have worked a week at McDonald's you are allowed to critisize Soviet working conditions.
I did Four Years. Working to the plan Comrade.
@@AnimarchyHistory- bless your resilience, friend.
You can tell this guy is Australian by the premier being literally midnight central European time. Imma guess it's pretty long too. See ya tomorrow instead.
Sadly it’s because it’s dropping on Monday not Sunday. I wanted to drop it Sunday night but fate intervened.
@@AnimarchyHistory take your time.
it's meant for US audience for obvious reasons
@@marcogenovesi8570 get your head out of your arse. Americans don't have a monopoly on things. And there are ~100 million more people living in the EU than in the US.
@@Anonymous-zu7dh Oh really? And how many of those can understand spoken english? I can guarantee you that in my country it's a small minority.
Any english-speaking youtuber has seen the metrics and can tell you that Murcans are a big (if not overwhelming) slice of their audience
About Italy outproducing Russia in World War I... The original Caproni factory is still around, turned into a museum in walking distance from Malpensa Airport.
Everyone outproduced russia in WWI. Even austro-hungary. Russian empire was an absolutely pathetic country, and its wonder how it even survived till 1917 with how bad everything was.
It might be that the country was so disorganised that the revolution uite simply couldn't get started until 1917. Not much has changed.@@alexturnbackthearmy1907
It's ironic that the USSR attempted to produce all war materials domestically to avoid weapons manufacturing in foreign countries like in WWI, only to "buy" foreign weapons in WWII.
@@jimjamautoThey didn't have the US' insane production capacity. I mean, halfway in 1944 America had to SLOW DOWN PRODUCTION, and they weren't anywhere neark peak yet...
That sounds like a cool place to visit.
Russia is a country that has every natural and human advantage over it's peers, and so SHOULD have the edge over every other country in every conceivable metric. That Russia has always been behind it's peers, that it even HAS peers and not just chasers, is a travesty. Russia needs not just a new kind of leadership, but a whole new kind of political culture.
Paper skies collab when?
Of course the first Russian strategic bomber was originally designed to carry a bar. These facts are no surprise 😹
They used it as coolant and hydraulic fluids. Most notably in the Tu-22 Blinder.
They used it as coolant and hydraulic fluids. Most notably in the Tu-22 Blinder.
They used it as coolant and hydraulic fluids. Most notably in the Tu-22 Blinder.
They used it as coolant and hydraulic fluids. Most notably in the Tu-22 Blinder.
They used it as coolant and hydraulic fluids. Most notably in the Tu-22 Blinder.
Awesome video mate, superbly researched and brilliantly presented
I love how you deal with history with humor. Please keep it up.
Love the baldrick explanation of how WW1 started.
Props to the Douglas Adams opening. Love it.
Yes,l thought it sounded familiar!
Excellent Black Adder Goes Forth reference. Archie Duke indeed.
God bless Private Baldrick, and Lieutenant George
I got a Kammala Harris Ad right before the cut to Stalin. Ah, I'm terrified lol
It is sad really. Individual russians (designers/engineers) were quite capable but the authoritarian/communist/socialist government made it all but impossible for the industry/economy to produce quality products.
And Then It Got Worse: Aeronautics Edition
I love the Habitual Linecrosser insert
This video really just highlights the constant decrepid state of russian society.
When a majority of the population is content existing without advancement and the few skilled individuals decide to aid the west in technological development, it says a lot about the bleakness of russia....
The I-220 project just sounds like if you tried to make Lockheed Skunkworks but you take the worst people for the job
"Ridiculous length"? I was expecting a 3-hour descent into abject insanity!
Yeah, when I heard that I looked at the time and thought "an hour and a half isn't ridiculous..."
I watched an 8 hour long Battletech lore video the other day, this is nothing!
Came for the Femboy jet, stayed for the history lesson!
Femboy jet? I assume you're talking about the Sukhoi 57, but I don't see how it would be a femboy.
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem the pilots
@@Shibes770 I think I'm missing something here. Is there a story behind this?
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem oh, it’s entirely a meme calling communist fembois it’s a generalization
@@Shibes770 Oh. Thanks.
Russian airforce: we have a Stalin problem
Airospace engineers: you mean the leader or airspeeds
Russian airforce: both yes and gulag for the joke.
Its really telling that the average WW2 Soviet fighter pilot's most highly-regarded plane was an American design gotten via Lend-Lease because the average American fighter pilot considered it a fucking deathtrap.
You mean the P-39? There's multiple reasons why it got the popular perception in US it had, but being a bad plane is not one of it. It wasn't even considered a deathtrap, it got mixed reputation at worst for multiple reasons.
@@tastethecock5203 Namely, a shittily-placed engine that made the thing prone to unintended spins.
@@ComradePhoenix shifted center of gravity also adds extra agility to it, its a matter of pilot training. Soviet pilots were trained on mig-3 and i-16 beforehand, but for Americans it was novelty. As long as pilot knows what theyre doing its not a big issue
In addition to the fact that the American P-39 and P-40 were decent low altitude fighters, I think the main reason Russian pilots loved them was they... didn't randomly fall apart mid-air or have their fuel tanks fall out.
They loved them because they didn’t overheat which was the big problem with yak-1 fighters. The fuel tanks falling out is completely comical. The fuel tanks are internal. How the fuck can they fall out?
They also probably enjoyed the fact that American stuff was designed with crew comfort in mind.
@@mk-ultraviolence1760 military aircraft being comfortable is kind of a 60s to present thing
@Shibes770 Comparing to Soviet designs, oh yes it was. Part of the reason 76mm guns took so long to be mounted into Shermans was because the Army didn't want to have Firefly Sydrome of absolutely rancid ergonomics
@@Shibes770I think its better to conceive "comfort" of this time as being the absence of active discomfort rather than the presence of positive comfort
That Habitual Linecrosser was unexpected but welcome. Cheers for another great work!
Id say that the Russians did a pretty good job developing their aircraft considering all the factors that contributed to the difficulty of producing them. The narrative consistently brings up how poor and broke the country was, yet fails to mention what a monumental achievement it was for such a poor and broken country to produce such machines.
Great, so it was a monumental achievement to build an aircraft that is competent with pathetic materials in inadequate shops. The jezail is a magnificent achievement given where it is produced but compared with its competitors, it wasn't much.
@@p.strobus7569 It was competitive. And it was enough, but soviets did beyond that.
1:20:52. Just came back, and I have no idea how I forgot about the Kid's cameo
The first 10 minutes reminds me of the las Vegas scene from the movie 2012.
"Thats a big plane."
"Its Russian."
Ironically the plane in question is a fictionalized variant of the Ukrainian Antonov 225 called Antonov 500.
@@josephhelgersonjoseph6115 if it were Ukrainian, Ukraine could and would produce these. It is Soviet. An-70 is a Ukrainian plane, for example.
"Would you intercept me? I'd intercept me."
Lenin just before he died, pleaded with everyone to not let Stalin take over.
It worked out, in the end. He may been a warmongering dictator, but at least soviet union was ready for war and not plagued with endless disagreement and underdevelopment due to it. It worked only because of lenin authority over other parties before, and went only downhill from 20`s till stalin times. Decades of ideological development of socialist state were burned to create working economy.
Gotta respect that outro song, very fitting, 10/10 would watch again
What's it called?
Thanks for the Douglas Adam’s reference!
Just an fyi, the train the Czechoslovakian legion stole was filled with gold from the imperial palace.
In the very early XXth century, a Russian politician said "we just need a couple of decades of peace" to transition Russia into modernity. Yet WWI happened.
When I was a boy in communist Poland I was given a biography of Myasishchev as a gift. I read it with interest. But it wasn't until around 1990 that I came across an explanation of such a vague chapter, how they somehow designed planes with Tupolev and Petalkov sort of locked up.... Well, they were locked in a prison design office....
PS.
Anyway, I would gladly get rid of a few insinuations. E.g., how Mikoyan with Gurievich derided Polikarpov.
PS.2.
Oh, yes, there was a longer piece about how Myasishchev, directed to oversee Pe-2 production, sent designers to oversee production quality and fix errors in newly built aircraft, because the quality was abysmal.
Oh boy, gonna have to remember to buy popcorn before watching this one.
I am from Eastern European country, and you did not even touch the surface on how bad Russian fighters were.
I am dying out of laughter if someone told to me that Russian weapons are rugged and reliable 😂😂😂 We had MiG-29 when I was at conscription in Air defence, and that planes were so absurdly unreliable that was beyond any limits. About 20% of airplanes were able to even take off. They were so unesufull that we used MiG-21 for air policing and their radars were not able to spot civilian aircraft in 10 000m, localising enemy jets... maybe B-52 if the weather would have been nice 😂😂😂 So air defence of Czechoslovakia was basically ground defence trying to navigate fighter jets to their target.
And the funniest thing? When our pilots went to Soviet Union, it was even worse. 😂😂😂
Do you know what is absurdly rugged and reliable? JAS-39 Gripen, we maintain them nearly on the level of civilian jets and 100% of them work. 😅
Even "sensitive" F-16V that Slovaks have bought needs about one sixth of maintenance hours per flight hour then rugged and reliable MiG-29 😂😂😂
Heh. That’s what Part 2 is for
@@AnimarchyHistorypart 2 bro get that part out soon please
Clearly amerkanski propaganda tovarisch
@@sugarnads 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Definitely, soudruhu 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The Czech Legion deserves its own video, because the shenanigans they pulled were absolutely mental.
Lindybeige did one
The La-7 and Yak-3 were genuinely some of the best machines to take to the skies in world war 2. This is what happens when you give your talented guys time and resources instead of the horrendous hands they were played years earlier, they will COOK.
Russian Planes: Failing Upwards
that cutscene with Stalin was awesome
Don't to know how many times I've seen some Socialist call Lenin's New Economic Plan Socialism. Despite quite obviously being a privatization of many necessary industries to help rebuild the USSR's economy after the Civil War and early failures in economic policies under Lenin. Lenin was surprisingly smart enough to realize well shoot that didn't work... and realized maybe this privatization thing really does help build economies. Pity Stalin despised this and would dismantle almost every positive thing Lenin's New Economic Policy brought to the USSR.
Imagine, a Dictator and Socialist privatizing some sectors of the economy to boost said sectors of the economy regardless of their Socialist beliefs. Shocking really.. *Sarcasm*