'66 Corvette vs Toyota Camry | Classic American Sports Car Against a Modern Midsize Sedan
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- The march of automotive progress over the past 50 years is undeniable. Owning a classic car like our long-term 1966 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray lets you put it all into perspective, especially the mythology surrounding its speed. But how far have we really come? Can an iconic classic American sports car outpace a typical family sedan 50 years its junior - say, a 2015 Toyota Camry?
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Carlos + Corvette Stingray = Happy Carlos.
I don't always come early to Edmunds videos but when I do I prefer Dos Lago
More like a test of cross-ply vs radial tyres
there was a camry in this video?
Radial tires on that Vette would close that gap IMMENSELY.
Love this comparison, definitely thinking outside of the box. It makes us appreciate our automotive heritage and shows us how far we've come along technologically. Keep up the good work!
Another great video of a car guy doing what he loves best. When Carlos laughs whilst driving we know it must have been a damn good time! What's next a Lambo v 71 Chevy Vega?
I have to wonder what difference modern tires/rims would make on the 'Vette.
I say rims because I don't know what size/ratio tires the stock rims could accommodate, so I presume the best tires for that vehicle would need probably wider and larger rims to keep the same diameter with a lower profile.
But I'd bet that alone would really level the playing field.
Plus the vette has an antiquated 4 speed trans with spread out gearing. Stick a modern 6 speed tremec trans in it, with modern tires and it will easily knock 2 sec. off a 1/4 mile E/T.
@@matrox Tires are absolutely part of the suspension. Modern tires and gas shocks help a C2 a lot. Regarding the gear ratios, you could get close and wide ration boxes on a C2. There were also many different rear end ratios to choose from. You want a 3.08:1? Tick this box. You want a 4.11:1? Tick that box. 3.70:1 was a pretty common choice.
should do a 67 corvette vs 67 toyota 2000gt review!
This is exactly why i'm getting a camry for my first car. Not to mention that camry's name means "Crown", well I can see that they don't call it crown for nothing.
+Plusile don't be such a lemming. Better choices out there than a soul less Camry.
Steve Foster I'm getting a Camry, also you're just mad because the Corvette lost.
+Steve Foster the Camry maybe soul less, but every camry will always have a story while most corvette's stories are about the engine blowing up on the 1/4 mile
The Camry wins in performance but the Corvette wins in looks and sound.
carlos.... i loved you on MT.... im so sad to see you on EDMUNDS.... i wanna cry for you.
you should just start doing your own car stuff on your channel you could grow so fast.
justin bouche the only reason i subbed to MT was cuz you : /
+justin bouche gay
and? bitch
+justin bouche that's what I fucking said...he has his own channel, but I don't think he was taking it too seriously. he stopped making videos on there
+justin bouche His channel sucks. Carlos didn't make MT awesome...MT made CARLOS awesome! Lagos is a good conduit but that's where his talents end. If you subbed just for carlos you're not even into cars. You just have a man crush.
Glad to see Carlos is having fun here. Nice comparison. Keep up the good work. Watching Edmunds is less boring now.
66 Vett. Best Vett ever! I love it. Camry .......Automotive hell. Toyota slowed the V6 Camry down. It was a 14 second car in the mid 2000's.
Now I know why Carlos has been missing from the MT videos. Hope this is a good move for him. So far the videos are still good. Congrats to Edmunds on picking up some great on camera talent.
I liked him much much better at MT
How much is edmunds even paying him considering MT got way more views?
***** yea the MT even if the lowest of views compared to what everyone else is getting is higher than edmunds carlos what have you done man...
Jan-Michael Franklin I thought I was going nuts, then I thought "Did MT buy Edmunds" and then I stopped dreaming and woke up and realized Carlos jumped ship! Glad I Subscribe to this channel too!
I DO have to say that having an appliance as a DD is nice. MUCH less worries and the comfort is there as well. My garage queen/toy is a 2009.5 G8 GXP with a N/A 6.8L LS3 that runs low 11's. It's nice to drive, but I wouldn't want it as my DD.
Great video! I will miss Carlos at Motor Trend but a great addition to Edmunds. Bring back the enthusiast heritage of your old Inside Line content with more videos like this
Love this video. Always wondered how a family sedan would perform at willow. Would be awesome to have a series pitting family sedans with bigger engines against entry sports cars or sports sedans. Honda Accord v6 vs BMW 328i?
Cant tell if Im watching a motortrend video or an edmunds one, but I like it. Glad to see Carlos commentating again.
I'd love to see the match-up vs a 4 cyl Camry.. Thinking it would still beat the Vette as I doubt the difference would be as big as 7 seconds between the 2 engines on such a short course
Or a faster vette
Like not a base model one
Great job Carlos. I thoroughly enjoy your commentary and analysis regardless of the channel sir. Keep up the good work!
RE: C2 Corvette.....
Even commuting to work is great!
With a C2, its not about who finishes first. Its the experience getting there that makes it special. :-D
With a Camry, it's not about the experience. It's about how loyal it is to you. Stays with you all the time without failing much.
glad to see you here carlos. Helping improve the channel!
"once you start TRYING to power out of corners" 1:25 hahahahahaha that had me laughing
racing that thing
God damn that corvette sounds amazing...
Danny Contreras But it’s slow.
itsmegp46 its really old tho. Back then it was really fast for its time.
itsmegp46 its a 1966 corvette and a 2015 camry
itsmegp46 now lets compare a modern corvette and a modern camry. A modern corvette would smoke a camry in no time.
@@adilthesav3889 Just put modern rims and tires on the Vette like 70 percent of the ones DRIVEN actually get, and have a competent person do the brakes.
Thanks for this video. It's over 3 yrs old, but it's nice to see that sometimes the 'good old days' are just that, and it's fine. Driving shouldn't be in an 'appliance'. Those are in your kitchen. and could you be any hotter? Mercy....
Great idea for a video. Not just an everyday car review.
You're the man Carlos, love your work as always.
Fun car or smart car?
4 doors or 2 doors?
Stick or slushbox?
Safety or not?
Sounds or not?
Present or past?
Why is Carlos here? What happened to Motor Trend, Carlos?
The only reason is subscribed is because of you Carlos, Wish you much success with Edmunds
Great comparison!
Put some wider rims with radial tires on the Vette, do a little suspension and engine tweaking, open up the exhaust, and the Corvette would be a completely different animal.
1) glad to see you doing videos again Carlos! the internet needs your presence.
2) Please get better content. you are better than this!
3) Can we please get a proper miata review please?
the 'vette is a sport toy, a hobby...the camry is an excellent mode of travel.. ( I own a '11 hyundai sonata - love it! )
As A Camry owner, I was pleasantly surprised. However, I'm wondering why you didn't compare the Stingray with a Toyota Celica. Both cars are incredibly sexy.
+J Johnson there is NOTHING sexy about a damn Camry-so just stop before you embarrass yourself further.
Steve Foster That, of course, is only a subjective judgement. I've driven many cars, sporty and mundane. I still like the Camry as an overall good driving vehicle.
Excellent video. Proof in technology.
Now lets put any 66 Toyota sport against a new Corvette and youll see the results..
+fabricio ayora I dont think toyota had a sports car in 66
Even worse the Sports 800, affectionately known as "Yota-Hachi", was Toyota's first production sports car, and was in production from 1965-1969.
fabricio ayora Wasn't that a jdm exclusive though? The first international Toyota Sports car is the 1972 Celica for all I know.
Tinu Thomas yes, they did, the 2000GT.
Tinu Thomas www.rsiauto.com/toyota/1966-2000gt-957.php
Should have used XSE instead?
That's what this is I believe, he mentioned v6
Stock for stock makes sense, although nobody would run bias ply tires this day and age, I think it would be neat to see the vette ran with some of the normal upgrades like a quick ratio steering box, aftermarket steering wheel and modern tires.
I was honestly waiting for Carlos to call in Randy Pobst but then I realized this isn't motortrend..
That Camry will NEVER increase in value like any C2 or 3 for that matter.
What's the manufacture date on those bias ply tires? If they're old tires, this test isn't worth much. Brand new tires vs. brand new tires for a fair comparison.
I realize that the '66 Stingray needs to stay stock, but how much difference would there have been had it been shod with modern street radials instead of the bias-ply ones. I believe that the Vette would have beaten the Camry in every category except braking, but better discs and rotors would solve that as well.
or by using 1966 gasoline
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Corvette for life!!!!
Carlooooooooooooooos. We missed you man. Welcome back.
It’s simply INSANE how much faster cars are today than they were even 20 years ago, let alone 50 years ago.
I think my Abarth is holy hell fast, compared to most cars I’ve owned in the past. But compared to the factories mass producing 400 to 700 horsepower behemoths, it’s pretty pedestrian. People have gotten speed insane.
I'll take driving fun over "it's a little faster" any day. I can guarantee you my Abarth is more fun to drive than that Camry.
Carlos I subscribed to edmunds since your here now, miss you on MT but hopefully yoh can spice up things here
my grandfather has a 66 327 block in it. believe me it is not slow. it's old so he takes care of it and so do I when I drive it but man it still packs a punch much more so than a new car. plus when driving it it feels amazing. like someone said below all cars back then had soul but cars now are all soulless. if you were to drive the vette and then the Camry you would choose the vette every single time. not to mention all the looks you get driving such a beautiful car.
+Cory Flower Only normal everyday cars are soulless. Especially the newer fwd hot hatches. 250hp from a 4cyl is not soulless.
+Sprinter Trueno (AE86 of Mt. Akina) smart ass what he means is if you have a older car thats well taken care of, to most people it would be sentimental. im more of a truck person (chevy). id take a old square body over a brand new truck any day.
+Sprinter Trueno (AE86 of Mt. Akina) id take a 350 or a 454 over that lil 4 banger.
This is crazy; one car is a sports car and the other is a modern passenger car. One is supposed to be rumbling. Yota faster than the Vette? I'd love to see the yota chase down a 283 A/C Cobra! Yes the Vette did not do that very well either, but once in a while it did! The Midyear when new...was just as comfortable as the Toyota at normal driving speeds 40-55. but that's were the same style ends. What next the Vette vs a F-4 Phantom II? Their both from the 60,s! Love the Vette Videos...keep em coming.
They should of did a AC Shelby Cobra or Ford GT40 vs new Toyota Camry just to see if a classic sports car can hang out with a modern family sedan. It would be funny to put the Toyota Camry to a classic Benetton B186.
Switch the bias by tires over to radials and you'll see a hell of a difference, must have had a 327 300 horse
Ya and the 3.08 cruiser rear axle🥱
we used to always have bias ply tires, and they worked a hell of a lot better back when they were being produced in a factory, not recreated by a modern company. you must understand that there is no comparison, and the chassis is 53 years old or so here during the year this video was shown. pretty damn good for 50+ years and still almost beating that modern Camry.
I love classic cars but there's a time and a place. 'Appliances' as he calls them do have an important place. A car usually has to be a tool for most of us. We have to commute, transport and travel efficiently in them. I know which I'd choose for my fifty mile commute in winter rain and it wouldn't be the Corvette.
Agreed. I can take my 2001 4runner with 170,000 and leave for Az and return and not worry. With the Vet I would need a mechanic in his work truck (with parts) to follow me. Plus a gas tanker. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder: Vet is junk.
The Corvette was something most people couldn't afford, nor is it practical for everyday use. It went fast in a straight line and used a ton of gas. Same still holds true today.
C2 Corvette was not meant to just go fast in a straight line. It had a new independent rear suspension for 1963 and could be ordered with a 36 gallon gas tank. Sound like drag strip equipment to you?
I just can't help but wonder what difference it would make to put modern radial performance tires on the old Vette. I wonder how much that alone would close the gap.
That was fun, but I'm surprised at the Vette's quarter mile time. I had a bone stock 1973 Gremlin X with factory V-8, 304, that did the quarter mile in 15:02, with a 3-speed manual.
After putting on a 4bbl and putting in a B-W, T-10, 4 speed, I knocked it down to 14:80.
Wow, the strides AMC made in just 7 years.
I'd blame the bias ply tires! In 73 they finally changed to radials and it makes a huge difference. Slap on modern tires and you'll be quicker still. The rear axle ratio might also had something to do with it, who knows. I'd put a small block 60s Corvette realistically into the 14 sec range for the quarter mile.
Brilliantly done
Cars have come a huge way since this Chevy was made. The trouble is that sure, the C2 is not a world-beater by today's standards. But for starters what engine did it have? The 300 gross hp base engine (about 240 bhp), the 350 gross hp engine (about 280bhp)? L72 at 425 gross hp (about 340 bhp)? The top of the line '66 would hit *60mph in 5.6 seconds and do the 1/4 mile in 13.4 seconds* with those slippery tires...You didn't just get "a Corvette" in 1966 you chose lots of things, the options were nuts. Which transmission is in the car wide or close ratio or heavy duty close ratio that gearing matter a lot, which rear end ratio? 3.08:1 (an ECL allowed this ratio in '66)? 4.56:1 (yup that was available) or which of the others, there were seven or eight (!) to choose from. Which brake option? Discs at all wheels yes, standard. But which option? Which suspension? The F40 optional suspension or what? Why'd you pick a sidepipe car it's a power-robber. The under car exhaust is superior for performance. Headrests were an option in 1966 by the way. I _know_ this guy drives better than this, and fishtailing robs you of seconds per lap, but here the car is, ass out like crazy. Fun yeah and no wonder the lap times were so slow. Don't have to drive it like that; false apexes and four wheel drift at opposite lock were in use in racing by 1966 and people did race them competitively, the big-tank option was still available in '66, that was a race intended option. The deck was stacked against the '66 Sting Ray from the start of this comparison ....why the need to do anything else to hamper it and portray it like this? And BIAS PLIES? Jeez look, we aren't taking the Camry back in time to 1966 why shackle the C2 with needless tech like that. Why aren't we using 1966 gas in the C2 while we are at it? F1 tires in 1966 had less grip than street tires today. I'm not arguing that the '66 must be the winner here. I'm arguing for objective comparisons, and what I see here is very arbitrary. Come on now.
WOW!!!
1st. You got to drive a 66 vette. Very jealous!
2. Kudos to the camera guy that caught you sliding on the corners!!
3. You got to drive a 66 vette
4. Even though the Camery was "better".......It doesn't have a 4-speed stick!
5. The Camery was incapable of sliding around corners.
6. You got to drive a 66 Vette!
7. So the Camery won. You got to drive a 66 Vette!
8. I have a 2007 Lexus ES350. It is faster, better handling, and more room than any of the sports cars and muscle cars I have ever owned. BUT, I never got to drive a 66 Vette!
9. You got to drive a 66 VETTE!!!
10. GOD!! YOU GOT TO REALLY DRIVE A 66 VETTE!....Very, very jealous!!!
p.s
Great vid!!
ah but thing about this sport, the 'vette or formally known "Chevrolet Corvette 1966", is well.. 55 years old "53 here". It almost did better than a Camry for being 53 years old. its not the equipment and work of the time that is the issue, its the years inbetween the automobiles. It's as well a lot larger than the plastic computer Camry, and larger tire circumference although thinner which frankly looks fantastic and very much so stock. I drove a 1953 Corvette, went 80 miles per hour on the salt track near our area in 1957. Just think about all the incredible color choices, work and beautiful care, dashing tires even very attractive looks with the lovely chrome rim, and a 7 choice roster of additions to add all for a fantastic price.
infact the Camry is more to purchase than the 1966 Chevrolet Corvette was in 1966: $4,084 dollars. while the Camry is around 17,000 although I'd be biased for lying, its 16,900; what a deal!...
In relation however, the pay during 1966 was around 2.00 an hour for a lower job, 5.00 for a good job, and anywhere at 10.00 for a very high qualified payed job. The Corvette in 1966 felt around $8,000 dollars in its price. felt is important because the translation between price back then and now will confuse a robot on google into being absolute and forward not understanding the differ of price between region of the united states, and kind aperture of a company. Deals were another feature. I know my friend begged enough to get his Packard 1949 for just under what 'felt' like $10,000 when the price was 4,123. now 10,000 was the suffering price to purchase this... comparing that to a shitty robot made computer car of today? at 26-46,000 dollars for that half ass created piece of work... I'd say they had some pretty great prices back then when I was a younger man.
so in reality, the Corvette won! oh and that would be 2015 - 1966 so 49 year old at the time I apologize. still, if it is 20 years old then 25 years old is hardly a difference to the point.
I drive a 16 Maxima SR and I find it so funny that I clobber V8 muscle cars that I used to think we're fast all the time. It's amazing what a few decades of technology will do. Still like to have that vette in my garage.
Yes please. More of this!
Nope. Gimme the Camry. I want the Camry.
did i miss what motor was in the vette? 327?
Ya, and likely by how it doesnt rev out on the long straight its the lowest 300hp version. Meanwhile lets use the most upgraded V6 with the widest tires car to go against it. Not sure why the brakes were so shyt either, clearly they were not rebuilt right or used a 66 spec pad which is just ludicrous.
Please higher quality content like this! Carlos is already making a difference!
Let's keep in mind that Corvette was equipped with a 350. The 427 models were significantly faster. Plus, 5 or 10 grand in this car could make it much more capable. Add power, suspension, and some bigger wheels and tires.
Rusty Shackleford 327... 350 came in '69
Yep or fuel injected 327 that would also do the job, not to mention LS6 that would smoke not only this toyota but also some lexuses with V8s it was racing engine.
Super cool Vette owner to let you drive it like you stole it! (Nevermind it's your car haha-good on you guys for actually having fun with it and not just polishing it with a daiper) What a fantastic machine.
Picked up a C4 recently. Isn’t the prettiest car in town, but gd does it sound good.
carloss i found you, i have missed you so much
Downvote for calling the Camry an "appliance."
It's a fantastic car, and it deserves tremendous respect for bringing impressive performance to a rock-solid, sewing-machine reliable car that will transport you in comfort and safety while getting good gas mileage.
This is why i hate American motoring shows
wow look at that, a modern car preformed better then a 50 year old car. I bet a 73 vega could beet a model T too.
imagine the vette with some modern tires and modern suspension.
gerg miller sarcasm is fun
yup bring that corvette into the 21st century while maintaining the look and appearance. better tires, heavier sway bars, seats with lateral support, also i dont know what rear end gears the corvette has in it. lots of variables.
You should know this video is purely a joke. These two cars are so different it’s like they should be in 2 different universes. It’s purely to show how technology has advanced so much over the years.
Imagine them picking a 427 instead of a 350
4c vs 288 GTO? Stelvio QV vs F40?
Radial tires are a huge deal.
Good to see Carlos again. But this is really the strangest Head2Head ever.
Lotus ain't dumb, that V6 is a f'n peach.
Carlos may be the only guy to ever run a Camry on a racetrack like that
old wins because it looks great the Camry is reliable but it looks like it would never get attention cars these days are so bland the old cars look so nice I love the old corvettes
So you're a poser.
1987 Corvette vs 2017 Toyota GT86? Be a good match😎
which would you rather drive?
Power don't means nothing alone, how that power goes to the ground is what you have to know.
My top speed on my 07 Camry V6 is 140mph it’s a lot of fun
Kept waiting for Carlos to do the figure 8 test. Oh yea this isn't motortrend
The camry is my dream car.
Owner was awfully nice to let you do that to that cherry Stingray.
This is like a 1967 mustang vs a 2020 Mini Cooper though I can’t believe this is true.
Bias ply tyres? Come on. That's unfair. I'm sure it'd have been more respectable if it had modern tyres. Still, that V6 Camry is lighter and has better brakes. I'm surprised the corvette managed a 1:44 with those tyres. It was never meant to be a track car was it?
The concept of the old Corvettes WAS to drive it on the roads every day and without missing a beat, going out on the tracks on Sunday. I still chase my 69 around like that, mind you. But with modern radials and it's a blast to throw around curves in 2nd gear.
that camry is definitely NOT lighter than the corvette, its the fully loaded XLE w/ a 6 banger.
what size motor in the vette
tmklunk If it's the original engine it's a 327. It would either be 300 or 350 horsepower (gross). This one is most likely the base 300 horse.
Put a set of racing slicks on both cars and see what happens.
Anybody from the 4:44 point onward think like me that the driver looks and talks like Jimmie Johnson??
My daughter was doing a Tire Rack Street Survival course, and one of the other students had a Camry. My daughter and I both agreed that the Camry had the worst handling of any of the cars in the class. Monumental and relentless understeer, all of the time. You can see it in this video too. Sure it's a FWD car, but so were half the cars in the Street Survival class. The Toyota SUV in the class was even scarier with lots of roll and what appeared to be poorly dampened oscillations. With the exception of Toyota's sports cars, I didn't see anything which would commend Toyota's ability to make a good handling car.
"With the exception of a sports car", well if you don't want a sports car why rant about the handling? Regular toyota made to last and eat up bad roads and your suspension will last for decades also.
PLEASE put some radials on that Corvette before someone gets hurt. I am old enough to have driven on bias ply tires and they are scary.
So this is where you are Carlos
Of course the Camry was equipped with the Bridgestone Turanzas. Some of the worst tires. The Michelins would have faired somewhat better. This is still a shock, even though the car is decades newer.
Am I hearing him right? Did he say the Camry costs less than the Corvette did when it was new? Something doesn't sound right.
Ok I got it now. He meant in today's dollars.
I really hate these comparisons where they don't change the tires or wheels of the old cars. Nobody even in the 60's kept stock tires on their car. Performance cars like the corvette were almost always modified in some way.
And yet every old guy i talk to used to drive down the highway at 250mph in their stock Dodge Dart
The reason is that this isn't anything like when the Corvette was original. It's now approaching 50 years old in the video, while that hideous computer Camry was brand new or close to. Now a Camry isn't a racer, the Corvette was surely a racer driven all over the place. The top speed of the Corvette was 150, not 85, that is absurd especially for the 1950's and 1960's sport styles. My the massive Mercury Turnpike 1957 went 120 miles per hour and has the easiest turning ever. It proves my point that because there was some racism and sexism in the 1950's-60's people now use anything to make the time of the past look bad. They feel bad for liking older things, ...it's so unhealthy how young kids have ruined the outlook on our past and history and hard work now turned into a joke.
mt show, o cara sento a bota mo corvetao sem do, isso aee meo, qero um agr kkkkk
nice
Absolutely Ridiculous Comparison! Give that Vette a set of XWX Radial Michelin tires, or put some Bias-Ply tires on that Camry. You can’t penalize the mid-year vette for the available tire tech of the 60s.
He never did say which of the three engine options was in the Corvette. Based on their test numbers, I'd wager to guess it was the 327/300.
Sounds about right. 300 gross horsepower would equate to around 250 net horsepower . . .
Props to the fast Camry, but on the Visceral Feeling Scale, the Corvette wins hands down.
precisely why id take the LC500 over plenty of competitors.
Similar power???
At the end of the day the camry will still be an appliance to go from A to B and the vette a classic beautiful car that will never get old and will be worh big money..