Why didn't France try to retake Quebec? (Short Animated Documentary)
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- Quebec used to be a French colony which the British won in 1763. Yet, despite numerous wars after that, France made no attempt to take it back and today it's a part of Canada? But why not? Why didn't France try to retake to Quebec?
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In history class, you learn that a lot of Québec's history is dependent on the export of beaver fur. Once beaver hats went out of style in Europe, the colony didn't really matter anymore. It's pretty crazy to think a fashion fad had so much to do with a nation.
It ended up becoming a colony based on the timber trade and a lot of that wood was being used to build ships for the British Navy which were blockading Napoleonic Europe right afterwards (as he mentioned).
Indeed
What about the export of Celine Dion and Xavier leFlamme?
Like the tulips in Netherland 😅
To this day, all we still talk about is fur and beavers.
Along these lines, maybe you could do a video on "Why does St Pierre and Miquelon exist and why is it still French?" Great work as always!
Access to the fisheries of the Grand Banks.
I third this
Probably Britain forgot that island existed
@@muratqitaku56 They invaded it like 3 times
Why it exists is easy. Because there's this thing called islands
(This joke but far more refined and I'm all for it)
"Dear France, bruh..." Made me laugh so much
As a Guadeloupean (a French Caribbean Island) I would like to see more videos about the colonial empire of France. It would be great if you could make one about theses french Caribbean island and their conflicts (like Haiti, or with the 1st slavery abolition in France during the French Revolution)
I'm glad the French had islands in every ocean, depriving the British of every having monopolized a single one, which is why the Spanish Empire under Felipe II was the biggest of all, but stupid non-free-thiking idiots will count oceans of sand but not oceans.
If all the Commonwealth countries in the Caribbean joined Canada, we'd not only have a warm wet place to go to in winter, we'd also HAVE THE usa SURROUNDED.
"Too much time has passed and France has missed their chance."
This man is spitting bars.
Did not they sell it to the Ferengi ?
@@GPski a good business man can smell profits in the air
@@GPski Not yet
Anglo-saxons trying not to get Québec to leave are absolutely pathetic.
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The divergence between Canadien and French culture is actually very interesting and worth a deeper dive. A big reason for the colonization of Quebec in the first place was to establish a Catholic stronghold in case religiou wars in France started going the wrong way for the establishment. When Britain conquered New France and established the Province of Quebec, they put a guy named Guy Carleton in charge, who had grown up in Ireland and was sympathetic to the persecution of Catholics. He convinced Britain to allow a great amount of freedoms to Catholics and created alliances with the Church to perpetuate their power in exchange for loyalty. Many Candiens saw France as abandoning them, as Canada had been a royal province of France and not just a colony. Not long thereafter, the Americans invaded during the Revolution, turing many Candiens against the idea of revolution. With the subsequent French revolution and enlightenment ideals, the British-backed Catholic clergy and English speaking aristocracy convinced many that France had not just abandoned Canada, but godliness as a whole. The Church and Catholic identity held immense power in French Canada until the Quiet Revolution in the 1960s, which embraced many post-war ideals such as nationalism and decolonisation and sought to remove the yoke of the clergy and English-speaking dominance in Quebec, which lead to the subsequent independence movement. Since the 60s, formerly staunch conservative and isolationist Quebec has now become quuite socialist and nationalist and is more eager to connect with other parts of the Francophonie, especially France.
"Socialist and nationalist" 👀
@@tulipalll Interesting choice of words lol
@@tulipalll Social Democracy would be a more accurate term
@@tulipalll lol yeah separate but not together. Quebec nationalism has traditionally been intertwined with left wing movements, though that has been changing recently with the rise of centre/centre-right nationalist parties
*Canadian
It’s worth noting (if someone hasn’t already in the comments) that after Britain’s conquest of New France, Britain took steps to allow the residents of New France to retain important aspects of their culture, such as their legal system,form of property ownership, and religion. This was enshrined in legislation, and that legislation became part of what the Americans considered the “intolerable acts“, which were one of the factors that led to the American revolution. Thus, Britain’s clever diplomatic moves with respect to the Quebeckers had the unintended effect of fuelling the desire for independence among the residents of the 13 colonies. In other words, the British conquest of Quebec and the subsequent war for independence in the 13 colonies were closely linked.
It’s also worth noting that although France never tried to reclaim Quebec, the Americans did. American troops led in part by Benedict Arnold (before his traitorous days) attempted to capture Montreal and Quebec City during the American Revolution. They failed miserably, partly thanks to the reliably brutal Quebec winter.
If I'm not mistaken, it's also because the British were worried that people from Quebec would want to join the American revolution if they were considered "a conquered nation", so allowing more freedom to the Quebec citizens made Quebec fight FOR Britain instead of against them.
Well... They did that after failing to impose common law in 1763 for civil matters. They setup courts using this system, but French-speaking citizens ignored them and referred to the local catholic priests to solve private conflicts. Those priests still used the Paris coutume in resolving matters. On the political front, representatives of the French-speaking land owners put pressure on Britain to come back to that system, so they backtracked and allow for civil law to exist alongside common law for criminal matters from 1774 onward. The next benevolent step taken by Britain towards French-speaking Canadians was the Union Act of 1840. They abolished Lower Canada (Quebec) and merged it with Upper Canada (Ontario), based on the Durham report, with the affirmed goal of assimilating French speakers to solve the "problems" that led to the Patriots rebellion in Canada.
Also, the Indian territory was part of British North America and no settlement was to be allowed there. The 13 colonies had a need for that territory to farm. "Elbow room!" says Daniel Boone.
Also, Québec is the only walled city in North America. I forget when the city was fortified.
Worth noting that they only gave back those rights after failing to assimilate the french canadians to try and make them fall in line and not revolt even more.
As a Québécois myself this short historical video is pretty well done ! Merci de faire connaître mon peuple et ma nation à nos amis les anglophones :D
"There was plenty of war to be had."
I love this guy's script writing.
During the Napoleoning of Europe. 🤩
Napoleon more or less set the stage for World War I, pretty much writing the book on nationalism. The later Revolutions of 1848 tipped it further in that direction.
_"Some stuff happened and it led to the creation of the USA."_ 😂
@@krisstarring Nothing wrong with a spot of nationalism.
One of the better ones out there.
"Named so because it [the Seven Year's War] lasted for nine years"
This channel always makes me laugh
Always great getting one of these within the first minute of a video 😂
Isn't it 1756-1763 tho?
@@louis-philippegirard7608 In Europe yes, but it started in 1755 on the American continent. Only war in the colonies was not considered "proper" war at the time.
@@romain2725 So it started in America in 1955 where due to nuclear testing a hole was ripped in the space-time continuum where some British and French musketeers were sucked to so they started their feuding in 1955 giving that as the real starting date of the war?
@@SirAntoniousBlock Typo, sorry. Edited my post.
I have great respect for your work. Condensing very complex historic correlations and processes into very easily understandable, clear, entertaining and funny short videos. That's art work. Thank you.
Father french canadian, mother english from Ontario. Grew up in Quebec, left in 77 joined Canadian Navy. Moved back in 81, left again in 86, been in BC since. Je suis de sang québécois. 100 % canadien. Thanks good one.
Ch'préfère la version française d'O Canada, a mon avis, elle sonne pus belle.
english canadian are American the speak american not british english the look yankee the dress like american watch american TV
You can see General De Gaulle's speech in Quebec in 1967 on UA-cam. For the little anecdote, when he returned to Paris, his government was furious because he had called for separatism in a foreign country. It was the only time in his career as President that he decided to summon his ministers to justify himself.
He told them: "You understand, Louis XV abandoned them, I had to fix that".
By shouting "Vive le Québec libre", De Gaulle paid Louis XV's debt.
I read that CDG was still miffed that Canada did not take the side of France (and the UK) during the Suez crisis and offered to be a broker instead (peacekeeping troops).
Separatism in Québec only fuels blind nationalism, which in turn only fuels our provincial government attempts at doing the exact opposite of what the rest of the country is doing not because we disagree with them but just because we wanna be different and really where does that leave us today?
Worst healthcare in the country, lowest minimum salary in the country, an education system that sabotages itself over the french/english split...
Ça me brise le coeur.
And thats not to say its entirely our fault, the english elite tried many times to assimilate french into oblivion and the fact that we're still here and still speak french speaks to our tenacity and explains a lot of our internalised rejection towards the rest of canada.
Les irréductibles Gaulois, c'est nous.
And then De Gaulle pushed down Breton nationalism and Separatism... so you know, there's that
@@email5023 I didn't know that. He must have been out of touch - Eisenhower was truly enraged by this last gasp of colonial adventurism.
0:30 it was named the 7 years war because the first 2 years was only a war between the colonies and didn't directly involve France fighting Great Britain. Here in Quebec, that colonial part of the war is taught under the name "the War of the Conquest" and I've seen it called by Americans the "French and Indian War"
Grew up in Ontario, and my teacher taught us about the Seven Years War, but he called it the Nine Years War.
Yeah, it was called the French and Indian War where I grew up, and it referred to the whole 9 years, but we also were taught that it was called the Seven Years War in the UK. All a matter of perspective.
Yeah, the European part of the war (also known as Prussia saying "everyone fight me at once!" and winning) actually lasted for 7 years, but it was going on in the colonies for a while before that
@@tylorhobbs8920 Funny because the Nine Years War is normally supposed to be a (kind of) global conflict (the first one ever I believe) in the 17th century, between Louis XIV's France and a coalition of other Europeans. Look it up, there's a wiki page named like that.
yep we’re basically taught that the French and Indian war and the 7 years war are completely different
As always, excellent work! I hope educators on both sides of the Atlantic are using your videos in class.
James Bisonette should've bought Quebec, to give it back to France.
Had to be done, you are welcome
given his name, he could actually possess quebec heritage
I think Kelly Money Maker should be participated
Who is the guy you're talking about
@@danLTa1 long time supported of this channel, he always appears first in Patreon supporters at the end of the video
This channel has a subtle yet excellent sense of humour, as well as having a unique video style. Keep up the good work!
British humour stays undefeated.
I absolutely love this guy's channel, he is a huge inspiration for me
I love this channel!
We can only assume that James Bisonate, Kelly MoneyMaker, and Jordan Longly would know the answer.
Fr*nch 🤮
What about boogily woogily?
@@pabcu2507 No, he belongs to my Patreon for my History channel. Don’t try to steal him smh.
You’d think but…no.
Spinning three plates gang rise up
I like your animation style and the style of you explaining things.
Churchill dancing through the field saying, "Close enough" (7 years war lasted 9 actually) and Napoleon chained to an island with a tag saying, "You tried" were the 2 best parts of this video and why I love this channel!!
During the Seven Years War, Britain captured both French Canada (later known as Quebec) and its Caribbean colony of Guadeloupe. During negotiations for peace in 1763, Britain gave France the option to either regain its North American colonies East of the Mississippi or regain Guadeloupe. So prosperous was Guadeloupe at the time due to its sugar plantations that, under the later signed 1763 Treaty of Paris, France forfeited its North American colonies in exchange for the return of Guadeloupe. It's rather interesting how at the time, a small Caribbean island was seen as far more important and profitable than a colony that took up nearly a third of the north american continent.
Its not that uncommon though,look at Russia that has a smaller GDP than Italy and its the largest country on Earth,the panama canal or suez canal that made fortunes and so on and so forth.
Point is that big doesnt necesarly mean better atleast in economics,i agree though that they should have though more about the vast land and large population that could have helped them later on more than said island.
France didn't see colonies as long term investments, mostly short terms cash. In general, France was more focused on the European continent in the 17th/18th centuries, it wasn't mainly a colonial power like Britain or Spain. France changed completely that stance in the 19th century (probably because of Germany), and colonized hard, so we tend to forgot how little they cared about colonies in the previous centuries.
Correct. That's really what happened.
Québec was supposed to be called "La Nouvelle France" during the Seven Years War but the British Empire took it over
@@xenotypos That's wrong.
France owned 2/3 of America for over a century.
@@wertyuiopasd6281 Well, not really that much, and anyway how would it make what I said wrong ? That's off topic. I'm just saying it really wasn't a priority for the state. The kings showed that several times in the 17th and 18th centuries, their priority was Europe, and the cash from lucrative colonies. That's also why they didn't send that many people in their colonies (compared with the British which were massively incited to migrate). That's why despite the fact that France had more than twice the population of Britain, in the colonies the French colonists were totally outnumbered, like 1 to 10 or even less.
I’m Québécois, I must say that this video was extremely great with historical accuracy !! Informative. I love your videos so much, keep your hard work !!
I do animated videos as well. Please give my videos a chance. I bet you will like it 🙌
How is quebec independence movement now has it died down?
@@aryanchauhan510 not dead but not as strong as it used to be. Polls usualy show around 30% in favor of independence.
@@pierre-oliviercote7112 Do you think it would have happened if the referendum had been won?
@@pogliot338 We might never know, it didn't go too well for Catalonia recently.
Always love it when you talk about Canada. You should do a video on the war of 1812!
I heard that rhyme you said at the end. And excellent summary! Bravo!👏👏👏
“By the time they had called at the baker's and climbed to the top of Cap Diamant, the sun, dropping with incredible quickness, had already disappeared. They sat down in the blue twilight to eat their bread and await the turbid afterglow which is peculiar to Quebec in autumn; the slow, rich, prolonged flowing-back of crimson across the sky, after the sun has sunk behind the dark ridges of the west.”
― Willa Cather,
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Which work of hers is them from, do you know?
@@benmaharaj6854 Shadow on the Rock, I think.
There's a famous quote by French philosopher Voltaire that sums up the French elite attitude to Quebec at the time of the war,
"Quelques arpents de neige" which translates to "a few acres of snow".
Its that same elitism that got France where they are today: diverse and dead?
And did you know the French translation for the game "Trivisl Pursuit{ is "quelques arpents de pièges" or " a few acres of traps".
Voltaire was an id-iot.
He was a leftist and serving the powerful.
Other French elites were not all thinking like him btw.
Especially the population.
@@hankwilliams150 I've never seen that game being called that, it's called "Trivial Pursuit" in France aswell.
@@hankwilliams150 It's definitly not how the game is named in france since we don't translate brand name or title, but Quebec often translate english name in french and sometimes it's pretty much hilarious.
i love how quick and brief and concise your videos are.. get my sarcasm???
Nice rundown) Thank you!
The king of France was more interested in his profitable sugar producing islands than in cold Quebec.
Reasonable since the land wasn’t really useful to them economically
@@galatheumbreon6862 Yes
h yes sugar as opposed to maple syrup.
@@ryeguy7941 Sugar cane was much more profitable than maple syrup in the 18th century.
@@davea6314 I know, I was just making a joke.
Je suis Québécois "pure laine" et je dois dire que vous avez très bien compris notre histoire et vous la résumé avec brio malgré le peut de temps que vous vous êtes donné pour y parvenir. Bravo pour votre effort et votre respect dans la manière de traiter l'histoire. Vous êtes resté neutre et c'est toute à votre honneur.
Salutations de France 👋🏻
Merci pour votre commentaire
@@lucagireud7539 Salutation Cousin ;)
@@Math_0402 tg
@@Math_0402 C'est erroné ce truc des origines des premières nations parmi les francophones. Ça été démenti par les démographes il y a quelques années, me rappelant très bien de cet article dans le journal Le Devoir. Ce ne serait que de l'ordre de 5% des Québécois qui auraient des gênes des premières nations. Pour la simple et bonne raison que les distances à parcourir étaient trop longues pour la plupart et que c'était plus facile de coucher avec sa voisine. Comme aujourd'hui d'ailleurs.
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!!
Thanks for the video!
Any day is a good day when HM uploads.
You're goddamn right
Saint Pierre and Miquelon is also greatly relieved that HM didn't notice they'd been retaken by France. Canada might not have been amused if they'd found out. : )
Husssssh....!
I read HM as "His Majesty" which honestly seems fitting.
There was a prophecy that Quebec would rise against Canada under the banner of James Bisonette, his vast wealth would make it all too easy to fund an army and rebellion, but he would also need assistance from Kelly moneymaker to finish the job. I hope you enjoyed this video and thank you for watching, with a special thanks to my patrons:
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And James Bisonette
Don’t forget Spinning 3 Plates
Bisonette or Bissonnette ;) ?
Unfortunately James Bisonette would face deep resistance from Montreal which still holds strong ties with Canada for business, including strong contributors like the pastry section.
@@TheMetalheadQC neither
@@gregoryaldous2165 by "Montreal" you mean West Island?
Nice to hear about my nation's history from someone outside of it! Keep it up! 🤙
Québec et la France 🇫🇷 nos cousins , nos frères: toujours dans nos cœurs 🧡
Non, les Québécois ne sont pas à mes yeux mes cousins, ce sont mes semblables, mes compatriotes car vrais Français et vrais Québécois ont les mêmes ancêtres.
@@vzmax So basically they’re both french people
@@Thanadeez
My opinion is indeed that anyone with a French surname is French. Nationality has nothing to do with it, it's just an administrative thing. Thus, many people have French nationality when they are obviously French in no way, never will be and moreover do not want to be. They even give foreign names to their children!
@@vzmax Can relate, i’m Belgian myself but focusing on family history a lot now and i keep finding more and more french families i come from lmao, also a lot of flemish people but i’m pretty proud of my french ancestry, even my mainline is Picard
@@vzmax u got discord? id like to talk more with u lol
Québec is the only MAJORITY french speaking canadian province, however french is also spoken in New-Brunswick (the only officialy bilingual province of the country) and in Ontario (about 1 million Franco-Ontarians)
@Simon Bolduc ben non, la majorité du monde savent pas qu'ils y a des francophones à l'extérieur du Québec. C'est quand même important, selon moi, un franco-ontarien, de nous mentionner de temps à temps à risque d'être oublié.
In Alberta there are several bilingual towns. I’m from Quebec, Alberta has a lot of french speaking people but its just you don’t often know because they mostly speak english.
@@jonathanlafleche5984 To be fair, I live in Alberta, and have never seen a Francophone here. Not a single one. Hell, I’ve been to Ontario on occasion and still haven’t seen many outside of Ottawa.
@@Darkspace. that’s because Franco-Ontariens are not spread out in the province but packed in some places, like Sudbury, Timmins, Ottawa and others most of which are way north of what people know of Ontario (the Toronto region), so if you don’t go to these particular places you won’t see them.
I had and have quite a few Franco-Albertan friends and acquaintances in Edmonton, Alberta. Also met many more folks with more recent/direct connections to Quebec. I have heard most of these folks express a lot of pride in that identity. I have much respect, and so (I think) do most folks I meet.
But I have also encountered shocking disrespect from members of my Anglophone majority. I literally encountered an oil worker who almost exactly said it was weird that Quebecers wouldn't just "speak white"; and that he was entitled to everyone speaking English to him. It seems all minorities attract frightful bigotry :(
Happy to see another upload!
all hail the mighty James bissonette! 🙏
happy to see you're still sponsoring the channel!
@@Steelhart69420 hoping to keep doing so for a very long time. Love this channel
As a Québécois I would say that this video is spot on on accuracy. Good work 12/10 would watch again.
As a Canadian, I always remember Voltaire's dismissive "quelques arpents de neige" !
2:52
"France had missed her chance." Nice turn of phrase.
The bit about WW1 reminds me of this time in high school history class when we were learning about the Quebec conscription crisis (I am a Canadian) and we were having a mock debate about the topic. I was in the English Canadian group and the French group was saying that they shouldn't be conscripted bc they have no attachment to the UK. I then said, "Well, what about your loyalty to France???" The whole class thought the debate was won and it felt pretty epic until the teacher explained that Quebecois aren't loyal to France either.
It felt good for a few seconds tho lol.
Basically: why be loyal to a country that sold you off and never tought twice about it since?
My arguement wouldive been that quebec should be conscripted because if england and france lost theyd be owned by the ottomans or germans rofl. the other arguement is because france is a neighbor of quebec (theres an island off the cost of canada thats owned by france still u can take a ferry to)
As the Russians say,
I understood nothing, but it was very interesting
Thats the sheer arrogance of the French. They are loyal to no one, not even themselves.
Makes sense - after all, (US) Americans are their own people, and those of European descent hold no loyalty to their various ancestral nations, with nobody questioning why they ever should. Sure, they come over as tourists, but it's only for interest's sake.
(They're pretty ignorant, can't point out Europe on the map, and seem surprised it doesn't look like Disneyland. So I guess that's separation for you).
Another awesome video. I like the French "our money" chart with the additional taped on portion LMFAO 1:26
nicely explained. Thanks you as a Frnch-canadian Quebecois. :)
You're Canadian simple as that
To bad you can't keep your shitty politics out of the rest of the country.
@@xGodWontSaveUx je suis fièrement québécois ! Et c’est mon droit de me proclamer de la sorte.
@@xGodWontSaveUx nope, sorry. We're not English. Try again. Besides, do you know that "Leafs" saying they're Canadians is cultural appropriation?
@@xGodWontSaveUx .. french-canadian means your main language is french.. that is still canadian. no need to start a war abt it
2:38 Bruh...
The colors of the room at 2:09 are the real colors of the Quebec national assembly (parliament). Impressive attention to detail.
colours not colors 🤨
Nah colors
@@EthanReeceGrantWorth That's such a Canadian thing to say
Very good! Thank you!
2:09 - I think the joke here is that in French, there are two words for "You": "Tu" and "Vous". Tu is considered informal, vous is considered formal; it's a bit like the difference between "Mr. Doe" and "John" but in a pronoun version. In France, vous and tu are used in their respective sense, and it's considered rude to refer to someone as "Tu" unless you're in an informal setting, but in Quebec they use the word "Tu" much more frequently and in more general scenarios.
Basically, the Quebecois guy on the left is just saying "Hello to you" the way he would say it to anyone, but the French guys on the right think he's being disrespectful because he used the wrong word for "You"
Thou shall not kill. Same as tu in French.
No. The joke is that “Bonjour à tu” is syntactically wrong.
You can say “bonjour à vous” or “bonjour à toi”.
Imagine you go to a restaurant, and the waiter tells you: “Hello at yourself !” You understand him, but it’s wrong.
@@vincemarenger7122 You are correct about it being syntactically wrong, but I don't think that was the joke. If anything, I think it was just a minor mistake on the creator's part. I believe the joke he was trying to convey was the cultural difference between "Tu" and "Vous" because it makes more sense in the context of the point. It's a dialectical difference between the two cultures, which is what he was discussing. The tu/toi thing is a syntax error which neither French nor Québecois would consider correct.
"Bonjour à tu" is wrong (it should be «Bonjour à toi»). But one notable distinction between the French spoken in Québec versus France, is that in Québec a colloquial way to phrase a question is to add "tu" after the verb in an otherwise normally formed proposition. For example, we might say "Tu veux-tu aller au parc?" (Would you like to go to the park?). This is not standard French, as we should formulate the question by inverting the verb and pronoun: "Veux-tu aller au parc?". It's actually from an older dialect of French, in which questions were formed with "ti". But people from France often find it funny to hear this "wrong" or "archaic" formulation, especially in the plural form: "Vous avez-tu fait bon voyage?" (Did you have a nice trip?)
parlons peu mais parlons bien!
Would be interesting to see a video on Norway during WW2, honestly.
Yes
Something something Quisling
@@jonbaxter2254 all I know about Norway is Quisling and they fought longer than France
I also forgot to mention something called the "German girls", which were essentially women that had slept with Germans and had German children and so were treated absolutely horribly when the war was over as they were seen as Nazi collaborators
@@lelouchvibritannia7809 My shoebox fought longer than France
“This was the year France accepted defeat in the 7 years war, named so because it lasted for 9 years”
And after 200 years the French have still yet recover from the humiliation of that defeat. 😂
@@lawbringer9857 You're just a trashy anglo-saxon bashing French left and right, your opinion is quite irrelevant.
@@lawbringer9857 In the same time, the English fought bravely until the last drop of blood of the last Prussian soldier.
The French in Canada found themselves isolated, and yet fought very well despite everything.
@@lawbringer9857
and after 957 years the english still cant accept that their tiny kingdom was conquered and dominated by a small french vassal
As a French Canadian form Quebec, I can say that nowdays, france has a lot of influence on socials medias on Quebec and I loved this video
How do you deal with Frances constant criticism of the Quebec accent?
Also do Parisians really complain that it’s as bad or worse than the Jamaican accent or is that just a English Canada myth?
@@petergould9174 Actually, French people and most of the French speaking part of Europe love the accent, every single french person I've talked to told me they loved the accent. Parisians have some difficulty to understand certain words but they will find it funny :D I've never heard of Parisians complaining about the French Canadian accent
@@petergould9174 French and Canadian here
The accent from Québec is quite special on it's own, really distinct, yet absolutely understandable. Source of a lot friendly fun and joke, but nothing mean. It is just différent. Thurthermore, people from Paris are quite often assholes, almost all French agree on that (and it is rare we agree on something)
@@petergould9174 it's not criticism just jokes lol and no it's 100% understandable
@@lamevegetation572 Bruh i see people all the time in the comments under video cracking up at the Quebec accent. "Putain je comprends rien MDR", "Mais c'est trop mignon votre accent"
They'll do anything but engage with the actual content. To them the QC accent is some funny anomaly not to be taken seriously (including what's actually being said).
I'm an American whose Quebecois ancestry is "pure laine" to the point we don't deny our metis ancestors, either. We wouldn't bloody be here otherwise, filles de Roi or not. This video was fantastic. Note: Quebec's settlers used the name Canada first. When the provinces that gained independence from the UK wanted a name, they ripped it off from the Quebecois. Par for the course, really. Quebec proposes, Canada steals (passes the puck to Ontario, he shoots, he SCORES!).
An American and
Quebec qua , with that double shot of arrogance and self entitlement you must be a Trump supporter.
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Wow, even their American descendents are whiners.....
They even stole the national anthem from us ffs!
Cultural appropriation
French Canadian grandfather was born....in New Hampshire. Quebec'ers were and are all through New England, but in school in the USA it's pretty much ignored.
I always love how "done" colonial natives look
As always an excellant video. Short, brilliantly explained with nice dry humor. Perfection as always. Literally got my BS in History because I love the topic and videos like this are so facinating to learn from. Keep it up!
Every car plate in Québec bears the province's "motto" : Je me souviens. Which translates to "I won't forget". It's open to interpretation but as I understand it , points both to the centuries of abuse at the hand of the english speakers and to the shameful abandonment by the French.
It's more about "We remember we are french (descendants)".
@@Rilcy2003 wtf are you saying? it has nothing to do with that lmao
@@unreal4139 I would say that it means, "I remember. . . " Which means something like, "I won't forget my history." I think Jacques Godbout said the motto should be "I forget". The French-Canadians don't remember much of their history these days.
@@dinkster1729 Yes exactly but the other guy talked about french descendance lmao
To us Quebecers, France is like the lousy dad who left to get smokes and never came back.
1:41 New word of the day from History Matters: Napoleoning
Shorter answer: a) France was broke and bankrupt after paying for their intervention in the American revolution (which led to the calling of the Estates General to solve the French King's bankruptcy crisis. Turned out the 3rd estate decided to declare a revolution instead!)
And b) When the French revolution started, it tore down the Church. It not only confiscated all of its properties, it made all Priests employees of the state. They then went on to found the "Cult of Reason" and worked to destroyed the Church.
Quebec was heavily Catholic. Indeed, the Protestant British not only tolerated the Church and Catholicism, but allied with the Church and encouraged the French Quebec to embrace their Catholic culture.
So seeing their beloved Catholic Church and culture be destroyed in France, they had no wish to rejoin a post- revolution France.
But many: France was always too broke to reconquer it.
They’d should have asked James Bissonette for help
Also catholicism explains why they didn't join the american in their revolution, you'd think that a newly conquered people would jump at the opportunity to join a secessionist movement against their conqueror but it was either stay with the british who gave them a lot of concessions regarding their religion (catholicism) or join the american who were pretty extremist in their views regarding religion and were pretty hostile to catholicism in general.
@@ecurewitz I laughed so hard lol. It’s amazing how a Patreon donator of a UA-cam channel focused on history can have an impact significant enough for us to joke about it.
Even now it is not toolate When Ian Smith declared UDI in southern Rhodesiaand got away with it why not Quebec??
@@ecurewitz He has a French name too so he would most likely help!
I love this channel. “Napoleon-ning.” I recommended this channel to my cousin who is a high school history teacher.
I've hear people call the Quebec people "Quebecer'' or '' Quebecois'' but ''Quebecoir'' is really the best of both world (0:11)
It's Québecois
@@MetalCharlo dig it
*Newfoundland in 1867:* "No, we don't want to join Canada because there are too many French-speaking Catholics in Quebec."
*Quebec in 1949 after Newfoundland joins Canada:* "Yeah, we would like to leave now..."
Also QC never officially accepted cease or Labrador from province borders xD
2:30 Charles De Gaulle causing everyone to say "Bruh?" throughout history.
I love your channel and really love it when you do Canadian history. One small pick though - your American Revolution maps show Maine with the extreme US claim, not the British/Canadian claim (due west pretty much from Mars Hill). Historical speculation says if we had gotten a better deal on that border Canada would have become a country in the 1850s because ties between colonies would have happened faster with a days shorter route from Quebec City to the Maritimes.
Québec did not rejoin France because France abandoned it. Prior to Napoleon, the crown simply gave up. It never fully supplied it's colonies in North America, there's a famous incident where playing cards were used as currency because France did not send any. The irony is that Quebecers have 'I remember' written on their license plates. I've always wondered what it is that they are trying to remember.
Wikipédia FTW -
Chapais, during a speech given for the occasion of the unveiling of a bronze statue honouring de Lévis, on June 24, 1895, said: "the province of Quebec has a motto of which she is proud and which she likes enough to carve it on her monuments and palaces. This motto has only three words: Je me souviens; but these three words, in their simple economy of expression, are worth more than the most eloquent speeches. Yes, we remember. We remember the past and its lessons, the past and its misfortunes, the past and its glories."
the full sentence is: "I remember being born under the lily and growing up under the rose" the lily being the emblem of France and the rose that of England
As a Canadian and a historian of this period of French history, this is exceptionally well explained!
Your an english Canadian not a Canadien
@@ommsterlitz1805 ? french or english canadians we are all canadians in the end
Been from this area as well. I like how you highlight the fact that this part of North America was not offering the same level of luxuriously goods compared to the caribbean colonies. It's a aspect never mention in the teaching of Québec and Canada, beyond been a conquered land we are also an abandon one by the French.
Well it sure came to bite them in the ass later. Although IMO if they had taken back Quebec, in historical perspective they were likely also thinking that Americans make bad neighbours, and 10, 20, 50 years down the line they would be caught in constant territorial encroachments from US settlers, territorial disputes, or even full blown war. One which would be super expensive, have little gain, and little to no chance of winning. Projecting power across the globe is hard enough today, let alone 200 years ago when it took 2 months to cross the Atlantic and French North America had a colonial population of 250,000ish across a continent.
Your depiction of Canada's letter to France -- "bruh..." -- was perfection.👍
Very interesting 👍🏼
"Loyal colonists who are loyal" bit caught me off guard haha
As a Québecois our french is actually derived from an old French used in the 17th century because of our isolation from the fench culture in France and our stubbornness to not wanting to learn English. So there is actually a lot of difference between French Canadian and metropolitan French.
Some Examples of different pronunciations (metropolitan French is right, french Canadian is left) :
Me : Moi - Moué
Car : voiture - char
Boyfriend: petit copin - chum
Also, the letter a is pronounced differently and many sentences are also. So much that french Canadian movies have metropolitan french subtitles!
culture?
car = culture?
The head of the French department in our English high school in Montreal (1960s) denied there was any difference between Quebec French and European French. I have always wondered why he maintained this obvious absurdity. They taught us European French - which is why I never understood the "natives."
@@datass7197 oops that's an error on my part. It should be voiture sorry!
@@floxy20 the french itself is 100% the same. Accent/slang is different. Kinda like London english vs Newyork english for exemple. Same but very diffrent.
Correction : It was always the Land of the Maple Leaf, being that the Maple Leaf is originally a French-Canadien symbol ...
Maple trees don't even grow in large parts of Canada. I remember a teacher telling us north of Lake Superior when we were looking at some bushes with maple-like leaves on them, "In the South, these leaves are on maple trees, real trees, not bushes. Someone had planted maple trees in St John's, Newfoundland. They were quite high. The climate is suitable in the Avalon Penninsula, but I guess they were never planted there. I wonder why not.
@@dinkster1729 There are many maple tree species in Canada ... they are not all Sugar Maples ... you have Red Maple and Manitoba Maple, etc ., all over the country and they can grow everywhere ... you can plant them or they grow naturally ... from coast to coast and in Newfoundland as well ...
@@richardblais5232 In parts of Newfoundland that are warmer, yes, maples can grow. You also have to worry about the depth of the soil though. Rocky coasts are not likely able to support a maple forest so they don't. The pitcher plant is the native wild "flower" of Newfoundland and Labrador, right? If Newfoundland and Labrador have a native tree--I'm not sure that it does--it is more likely to be the black spruce than any deciduous tree.
It might be worth mentioning that the last time Quebec was under the control of France, France had a King. When the French Revolution happened, France really wasn't the same country anymore. This was a key point in the french of France and the french of Quebec becoming more like cousins than brothers, as the colonists still had loyalty to a Monarchy that had helped them settle, instead of a president who really didn't care about them at all.
They didn’t want us back once they heard we say Chocolatine instead of Pain au chocolat.
Don't start them for fucks sake !
sacrilège!
Pain au chocolat or P'tit pain is accepted.
Chocolatine is used in parts of southern France, and they are like the cathares: HERETICS.
The war has been continuing just like the religious wars from back then.
LOL
Le sud-ouest on est avec vous car on dit aussi chocolatine
When France gave up New France instead of the colonies in the Caribbean to the UK, there was a joke in France at the time that said the British traded sugar for snow.
It's funny how half of the British empire was land that worth nothing and they keep it because nobody wanted and the other half was India
@@joaquinrodriguez227 British Empire was 25% of the land with 25% of the population. It was about averagely populated.
@@DouchebagDex i was refering at the fact that places like Canada, Austria or Egypt where in mayority whortless desserts that the British have because prestige, and that India was the most valuable land in the empire
Thanks!
There were a lot of attempts to build Franco-Quebecois connections in the '60s. This led to, among other projects, a joint Peugeot-Renault assembly plant.
Driving to Quebec from Ontario always feels like you're in a completely different country.
Trust me, buddy, the feeling is mutual. Your roads are sooooo sooooo much nicer. But then you get to Ottawa and realize that Ottavians have a driving IQ of about -150. Then we get to Toronto and we feel right at home with everyone driving like posessed retards but with skills.
@@ColStuart I'm from the GTA myself and oh yeah I agree with both those points 100%
As an Anglophone Quebecer, driving to Ontario feels like you're in a completely different country, yet so does driving to the East End of Montreal and beyond.
Really? There’s a lot of French spoken in the eastern Ontario towns/cities bordering QC
The ending bit reminded of how Spain and Mexico also see each other as cousins but not being that close. Despite this I have seen Spanish people online try to compare Spanish and Mexican relations to the US and UK and Im like nahhhh that's stretching it 😅
Spain is several orders of magnitude closer to its former Latin American colonies than France is with Quebec.
Anglo-American alliance is by far the strongest alliance in the world. There's no other alliance really quite like it.
@@declannewton2556 yeah but it's not like they're best buddies watching each other's backs or anything. Spain would rather hang out with France, Italy, and Portugal
No love lost for the Portuguese in Brazil either. But even though the Portuguese are not very fond of Brazilian immigrants, to put it lightly, I was quite shocked to see how influential Brazilian pop culture is in Portugal when I visited Porto
@@Spongebrain97 Thats cause first and foremost we are europeans.
"To give its loyal colonists, who wee loyal room to expand."
Narrator : *They were not loyal*
Lol the twitching eye at bonjour à tu
"And France...
...had missed their chance."
Wordplay level 10/10
Her not their
@@galatheumbreon6862 Sorry, I guess I misheard that :)
This channel always makes my day better! And I hope that James Bisonette is having a good day too I feel like he's a cool guy lol
Much appreciated!
Most quirky former colonies are little islands somewhere in the ocean. Then there's Quebec. Enormous, complicated, vibrant. Also right across the river from me.
Amazing! You should make a video about Quebec’s two independence referendums in 1980 and 1995 👀
Maybe another video on how Quebec still speak french despite being administered by english-speaking people for about 200 years.
Short answer: The Québec Act and the Catholic Church.
Britain didn't want rebellions. Plus, unlike say indigenous African languages. The British saw a value in the French language. A large amount of British monarchs could speak French for example, including the current one.
About 262 years lol
@@walsh9080 They initially tried pretty hard to assimilate us, but around the time of the American revolution, they significantly reduced their efforts for fear of us rebelling in the same way the US did, so they gave us some more freedoms.
@@konstantinosnikolakakis8125 Also, high fertility
French Canadians (be it québécois or not) population grew impressively until the Quiet Revolution (1960s). Just so you get the amplor - there were about 10 000 Acadiens left at the start of the 19th century in Canada. A century later, there were around 140 000. This was mostly due to the high frequency and early age of marriage. If the Great Hemorrhage didn't happen, the population of Québec would be at least 16 million rn.
Hard to turn a majority into a minority by immigration if they're shitting out childs.
As a québécoise myself, I must say this video is very informative !
A Québécoise speaking English ? Sacrilège !
@@joundii3100 c’est honteux !
@@ki_tsuu Exactement. Vive le Québec libre tabarnak.
@@joundii3100 C’est toujours les plus vulgaires sans classe qui utilisent ce vocabulaire !
Merci beaucoup !😊
Especially happy to read virtually no Quebec-bashing comments below. It is quite ubiquitous whenever the topic of Canadian-French Culture/Heritage is raised. Great work on the vid ! And thanks to an intellectually, curiously insatiable audience that can keep this corner of the internet clean.
Still, there's some comments on full french. Considering this video is in English and has majority English speaker (either native or not), those commentaries was felt a bit off. Me myself is not English speaker or in Anglo region in anyway, and seeing that just give the express of "exclusivity", and exiled themselves to fellow viewers.
Great video, also the french revolution contributed to distancing the two, because french canadians (as they were called then) condemned it and were loyal to the church.
C'est de là que nôtre drapeau vient !
The church of Mary-worshipping heretics.
The Quebec clergy condemned the French Revolution and preached from the pulpit otherwise the habitants would have been nonetheless wiser.
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Oh no, not another botted scam comment 😞
God has a special place for scammers in the after-life.
I would never have thought a sign saying 'hat?' would make me laugh so much! 😆
I'm just happy I'm not the only one pointing out that the Seven Years War was nine years long
“Too much time has passed and France, missed her chance.”
Sweet Poetry, by History matters.
...loyal colonists there, who were LOYAL..."
Ahh yes, foreshadowing
My favorite part of the entire episode. 'course I'm American. but a black American. That's a subject for another time
There actually was still a large population of loyalists before and during the American Revolution that helped out the British army during the war. But when Britian lost many either surged and stayed with the Union or fleed to British controlled Canada.
Watching you all trying to figure out anyone's history, is actually more of a show in itself then what you attempted with this video.
The thing i like about history matter is how he makes so hillarious historical jokes which just can be understood by a well educated person
"Quelques arpents de neige" - Voltaire
Yes and not the population who was pissed
Amazing to see something on my home Québec in history over here!
this is excellent
TY 🙏