Won or Lose, it remains history no matter if you're a Malaysian or Philippines, yes Malaysia is a part of the Philippines during Spanish colonization and Malaysia was in controlled by the Philippines during Spanish colonization but Malaysia Choosing to be indipendent and not belongs to the Philippines Island, that what US said to the Philippine leaders choose what nation you're belongs, yes Philippines is appealings but Malaysian won in their indipendency into the court that they're not part of the Philippines so that's it. It remains history, Philippines appeals against Malaysia because of Spanish Claims that Malaysia is belongs to the Philippines since they're in powered of King Philip of Spain and since Philippines became 1 country because of King Philip so you need to use Philippines for the memories of King Philip preserved.
"It was a case of trying to find a name that everybody could agree on, which they couldn't, so the one that equally offended everyone remained" is a very accurate description of my country's name 😂
Funnily enough it's the same reason English has the official status in India and people prefer to use that in official settings and when talking to others.
same with the language, there are hundreds of languages in the Philippines. Tagalog was declared the official (changed to 'Filipino language' whereas it really is still majorly tagalog, with spanish, english, and others) but the others really hated that because they weren't even the majority so, everyone compromised with English. They can't accept one of their own so they accept non of their own.
Finally, someone mentioned how Jose Rizal didn't actually want independence from the Spanish but more recognition and respect, I know this is going to trigger a lot of people but this is what he actually wanted
While we were having a party because we thought we just got our true independence, nations like the French Colonial Empire and the German Empire and of course, the United States are planning to take over.
The line “It was a case of trying to find a name that everybody could agree on, which they couldn’t, and so the one that equally offended everyone remained.” came out of nowhere and made me crack up, that’s one of the funniest closing lines for anything I’ve ever heard
Reminds me why English is still the lingua franca and main media language in India. Hindi isn't a majority language/culture in India, and other minorities wish to keep it that way.
Thing is Filipinos now want to be The people here before the Spanish came, But we aren't those people, our forefathers fought for the name Filipinas, Philippines, they yelled and they died for the name Republica Ng Flipinas then they're gonna change it? It's like Killing the people that fought for Philippines again just to Make the tribes and Moro islands Happy
Ian T It's human pride that seems to wedge an axe of division between all the tribes and tongues that want to gain hegemony in the islands. Being "equally divided" and equally powerless over the other is an equitable concept. No one rules over their neighboring tribes. It was only thru the American concept of a Republic that held every member of opposing tribes/regions together, and a world war to becoming united against a common enemy and subsequently stir the fire of NATIONALISM into every Filipino heart and vein. It's a young nation still learning to evolve and meld into one people and one country, despite being surrounded by sea barriers within and without. Right now I think that the greatest unifying force to our way of life and culture as a people is our belief in God the Creator.
@@MrFareddy literally my point, the people who isn't hispanicized are technically not Filipinos, This us we need to embrace and accept it, we have Spanish and Asian traits and that's Filipino, Philippines is our country Filipino is our identity, we are hispanicized we have to accept it
It's agreed upon, the name is "Philippines". There are some new proposals for the name nowadays, that's why these are almost unheard of. Are proposals bad?
If we are to rename our nation; *_Maharlika:_* so much issues, name deeply tied to the marcos family *_Ophir:_* ginoo ko! Conspiracy theory, barbers gossip, bias to the jews... So how about this; *_International name:_* Makronesia (big islands)《Opposite of Micronesia which is part of spanish east indies before》 *_Local Name:_* Angkapulawan (the islands) [Ang+ka-pulaw(malay word for island)-an] -*alt.*_ Bansang Kapulawan. Demonym Int'l: Makronesian Demonyn Local: Tagakapulawan (islanders) No religious bias, no ethnic bias, perfectly describes our geography and way of life...
Fun fact: during most of colonial times, the Philippines were not ruled directly from Madrid, but rather from Mexico City, as adminitratively they were considered an outpost of the Viceroyalty of New Spain. It was only after Mexico got its independence that Madrid started to rule the islands directly. As a result of this, most Philippino languages have not just hundreds of words coming from Spanish, but also dozens of words coming from Nahuatl, a.k.a. the Aztecs' language, as the Tlaxcaltecs (the Aztecs' rivals who also happened to speak Nahuatl) became one of the most loyal allies of Spain and would play a role in Spanish armies similar to the Gurkhas in the British armies: elite shock troops composed from natives. So plenty of Tlaxcaltecs got sent to the other side of the Pacific during their mandatory 3 year service to the crown. Who knows? In an alternate timeline, perhaps the Philippines would've become "West Mexico", we already are very similar to each other, culturally speaking.
One other reason for not renaming might be the fact that the islands' natives fought for years to be called Filipinos. Under Spanish rule, the term 'Filipino' strictly referred to people of Spanish ancestry born in the archipelago. The natives were pejoratively called 'Indios'. Claiming the demonym for themselves showed that the natives were equal to this privileged class.
Yes, Filipino refers to those either with native filipinos with Spanish blood and other europeans born in the Philippines. And for those pure Spanish born in the Philippines, they'll be also called Filipino. However, the Filipino was been mainly associated to the natives to whom they foolishly claim that weren't on the islands when they first came. That's on the perspective of the discriminative Spaniards but not the whole world. Foreign countries identify the natives as Filipinos more than those with Spanish accent. That's why even those pure Spanish born in the country don't like to be called Filipinos. Even the peninsulares (mixed blood) also don't like to be called the same. In the social elites hierarchy Filipinos are more respected than the natives. Spaniards call the natives of tagalogs as Indios, the highlanders as igorots, and the muslim mindanaons as moros . That's why Dr. Rizal fights that the natives should be called Filipinos and should've equal rights just like the Spaniards since they were first born in the Islands before the Spanish colonization. Since mostly our national heroes are Filipinos that's where the identity was been adopted by all the people and becuz the name of the King of Spain remains. It's ironic that we bare the name of their King but we don't honor any of their King and don't speak Spanish. If only Spain took care of the Philippines better they'll have the strongest strategic points in the world. They could've win the Spanish- American war.
@@maheshpun4804 it's basically the same as taking their name and putting them on the same level as you are. It's basically Crab Mentality put into the national level.
@@maheshpun4804 Because it was a name of privilege, anyone referred to as Filipino back then was the equivalent of calling someone the rightful citizen to this country, while Indio was perceived as the outliner - tribal and regressive people, rather than people who were the rightful citizens to this country. People back then still wouldn't have thought that the Philippines could be its own country and were still under the colony, so they didn't bother wanting to change the name of the colony and instead wanted to be treated as equals within the colony by saying they wanted to be called what the country was called - a Filipino. Eventually now though - I don't know, changing the name isn't really the most important thing, neither will it actually contribute anything to our heritage. Just because you change the country's name to the Pre-colonial term for warriors won't help educate people of Pre-colonial history.
@@MrFareddy Being an Igorot myself, not changing the name of the country wouldn't really be an insult? We're not offended whatever the name will be, because inevitably the name was important to certain parts, while didn't include us, is still incredibly impactful to these parts of history and to the majority of citizens of the country. It literally doesn't matter, and let's not turn this into a Myanmar situation where 'Burma' only represented the Burmese and not the rest of the ethnicities - because it doesn't matter. _They_ are essentially Burmese by virtue of living along the Burmese, just as how that of the Cordillera regions are still living with us even with different history. They're still a part of our country no matter what, so they're naturally called Filipinos for simply being part of the country. Even if historically they were never found out, they're still a part of us.
@@coldplayfan7357 no just Spanish although they were the longest, hundreds of years. Chinese and Japanese as well. Filipinos probably are the most diverse and mixed in Asian or the world even.
@@coldplayfan7357 as someone who already has deep knowledge of Philippines history before Magellan happened I sharply disagree with you, and consider it merely a phase (albeit undoubtedly a very influential one) in our history. Sadly tho the reality is that a lot of average Filipinos think like you do.
The problem with renaming the country Maharlika is that it's a Tagalog-derived word. And considering that the Tagalogs are not even the largest ethnolinguistic group in the Philippines it's much better to settle on a name that favors nobody inside the country.
It wasn't necessarily that it's a Tagalog word. It had different meanings to different ethno-linguistic groups. To the Tagalogs, it merely meant "Freemen." To some of the Bisaya, it meant "nobility."
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 That's what the Romans called them. Although, the Duetsch do not seem to care what anyone calls them. They have a lot of names depending on the language.
@@avakiin6614 No, Maharlika means Nobility as well in Modern Filipino, not Bisaya. Timawa is the word equivalent we have for Maharlika in Bisaya, which also roughly means freemen.
@Kyle Pagayon Highly unlikely, Spain treated the archipelago poorly and Rizal went as far as criticizing them for making the Filipino people the way they are. As for Spanish, not only we would be alienated by our austronesian neighbors, we would be speaking a useless language as the nearest Spanish speaking nation is all the way back in latin America.
@@kentfamilara7122 More I think they don't deserve democracy as a whole, they not only take it for granted, they'd simply go and misinform people to to vote this or that for a 6 piece bucket meal.
If we are to rename our country; *_Maharlika:_* so much issues, name deeply tied to the marcos family *_Ophir:_* ginoo ko! Conspiracy theory, barbers gossip, bias to the jews... So how about this; *_International name:_* Makronesia (big islands)《Opposite of Micronesia which is part of spanish east indies before》 *_Local Name:_* Angkapulawan (the islands) [Ang+ka-pulaw(malay word for island)-an] -*alt.*_ Bansang Kapulawan. Demonym Int'l: Makronesian Demonyn Local: Tagakapulawan (islanders) No religious bias, no ethnic bias, no historical bias, perfectly describes our geography and way of life...
my man, that analogy sucks. lmao. That and this are two different things. its pretty much obvious am gonna have to get a mechanic to check the car out since its my livelihood. it affects me, as for our country's name? It doesn't affect me other than rankling my nationalism but thats it. Philippines is fine, whether you, someone else, or whatever dont like it.@@tumao_kaliwat_napulo
Strictly speaking, the independence of the Philippines in 1946 was dictated by the terms of the Tydings-McDuffie Act of 1934, which turned the islands from an unincorporated territory, a possession not part of the US, to a Commonwealth with a constitution and a president as of 1935, to become independent after ten further years. A complicated product of a Philippine diplomatic mission to the US and the policy imperatives of the early 30s Congress. The war, Japanese occupation and US reoccupation delayed the planned independence for just a year. Rather than creating the idea for the first time.
Yeah, it really makes you wonder how accurate videos like these are, since when they happen to be on a topic you're knowledgeable about you notice glaring mistakes.
That's what I remember too (I'll have to go back to research again). I believed the path to independence was set out at the time the Philippines was made a Commonwealth.
@@stacysilverman6366 Exactly, I found it weird that they made it seem that post-war Philippines was being militant against the United States. Not to mention them saying that the Philippines found it a relief that the United States beat the Spaniards when in reality the Spaniards were being surrounded in Intramuros, Manila and to save face the Spaniards staged a phoney battle with the Americans, opting to surrender to them instead of the Filipinos.
Idea for an episode: Why didn’t the Scots invade while England was busy fighting in France during the 100 years war? Didn’t the Auld Alliance require it?
In the Black Death episode, it says that the Black Death started after the Hundred Years War commenced, and that the Scottish then raided England and brought the Black Death back with them. So that is probably why the Auld Alliance wasn't invoked.
@@dd.mm.ll. Actually I haven’t heard about this battle, nevertheless when England started losing after battle of Orleans, an invasion was certainly a great opportunity for Scotland to gain something valuable at the peace talks
Fascinating! Had no idea there was a contest to get name of "Malaysia". Would have been a suitable name since my ancestral country is Malay in origin but...whooop there it is!
Man, more of us Filipinos should know that we did not solely came from Malays. Before everyone else are the descendants of Ainus in Japan who were ancient people from Africa around 30,000 years ago. Austronesians came from Hongkong and Taiwan, they are the ancestors of Malays and Polynesians, then the Chinese, Hindus from India, the Vietnamese, and etc. When the Malays came there are already tribes in the Philippines and they conquered only a third of the country, some of the tribes still exists today. The country were divided into 3 kingdoms. The Philippines became the center of trades in southern part of asia so people from different neighboring nations came. The spanish came and imported the Mabalacat tribe from Mexico. There's the Japanese as well. According to studies, modern Filipinos are from a combination of around a hundred groups of people. That explains the difference in physical features of a filipino to another.
Fun fact. Britain briefly held Manila in the 1760’s as part of the Seven Years War. Coincidentally documents were discovered then that helped Capt Cook navigate the Torres Strait between Papua and Oz mainland.
Nah. Territories were not just won or lost in battle, but used as barter after a war. The UK was even offered Cuba once, but [in hindsight wisely] said no.
It's because of the British that Filipinos that time realized that Spaniards can be defeated. That started the many rebellions. Also that the British came with many Indians as troops also remained in the Philippines after the British occupation.
More Fun Fact: Spaniards discovered Australia before the British ever got there. Yes, the Dutch and probably the Portuguese were the first Europeans there. I prove what I said in my series on the overrated, not-biggest, British Empire.
yeah turns out that coming up with a completely original name for a country is actually really hard, that's why fictional countries almost always have awful names
It's mostly something that the average, not much of a wordsmith/literary soul although seldom revolutionary person isn't quite skilled in unfortunately...
Some fictionalized names are decent: Gondor, Mordor, Endor, Arnor, Erbor If I were to pick a fictionalized name for the Philippines the country would be called Pandor. Pan meaning "all" in Latin and Dor meaning dwelling / place / home.
It's interesting to know the aftermath of the Spanish Empire, I always find fascinating that period of history when the Iberians went on pieces of wood to the most stravagant and far places around the world. The name of a country always comes with an interesting story. Great video as always amigo
they also enslaved many of the people of the land they colonized and used them during the slave trade. Its why many of them as well ended up in the americas, however the african slave trade was much more prominent and economical so it eventually died out.
@@rolandomota7771 oh le slavery, literally everyone did that whats your point uh? We were also enslaving the heck out of ourselves here in the Americas, look at the Inca and their mitimaes.
@@AlejandrXZD Around the same time africans were being brought over as slaves, so too were Asians primarily by the Spaniards. It is a much more hush hush event that occured in the continental American history of it's colonization. That is all, no further argument neccesary
@@MrFareddy lol, nowhere near as shameful as being colonized by muslims or chinese. Having islam or confucianism/buddhism. Now that would be a true disgrace
Additionally: during the first Philippine Assembly in 1898, there was another group of islands that were represented - Palau. And Guam was also governed from the Philippines during Spanish times even becoming the place where some prominent Philippine patriots were sent to exile. Wonder how things would have turned up if the Philippines as Spain administered them remained intact?
There will be tyranny and revolution against Spain not until the creation of the United Nation. Possible that the fight of the La Liga Filipina lead by Dr. Jose Rizal to Spain will be approved by the Spanish congress. 1. Make the Philippines a province of Spain. 2. Remove all Spanish priest and political officials and replaced by Filipino priest and Filipinos to lead. and 3. Filipinos having equal rights as of like the Spaniards. One possible conclusion is getting independence and be part of the European Union.
As a Filipino this is interesting and the "it was a case of trying to find a name that everybody could agree on, which they couldn't and so the one that equally offended everyone remained" sounds like a summary of the situation and its funny. I like it
@@MrFareddy The original definition of "Filipino" is a spaniard descent born in the philippine archipelago. Everyone else that were not spanish were called "indio". Today, you are called filipino if you're a citizen of the republic of the philippines so therefore igorots and ifugaos are filipino. Stop spreading nonsense and get your facts straight!
@@gvd378 mostly you still are but your culture get more influence from spain, like the brittish island never stop to bieng english it just get a lot of influence from french during the norman ocuppaton
The sun with the smiley face is such a nice detail, for context, one of the Revolutionary flags used by the Philippine Army featured a sun with a face on it. It's expression is actually unnerving but I find it cool how it's still included in that brief slide at 0:48
As in previous comments, the Tydings-Mcduffe Act guaranteed Philippine independence but I would like to take note in how much this was influenced by the work of William H. Taft. Taft being the first civil governor of the islands made it sure that the Philippines was always guaranteed independence. It was his initiative during the Taft Commission that secured us the Philippine Organic Act that allowed the Filipinos limited self-government - which was the first step in a series of steps towards eventual independence. It was also Taft that insisted Filipinos to be treated as 'social equals' and while this did help Philippine nationalist politicians to grow within the Insular Government system, there was no written rule to safeguard the common folk from racism.
It does look odd that immediately after conquering The Philippines with enormous loss of life USA began planning to restore its independence. You'd think they could have skipped the "conquering with enormous loss of life" stage.
@@alanpennie The Americans were very divided at that time whether or not to colonize since they hate the Brits and the Brits are synonymous with colonization. However they do envy the Brits just as well, since colonization did bring up international prestige which the US still was not. The guarantee of independence was a compromise to appease to both sides. Philippines will be under the USA but it will let it go someday. The senate would never allow the Philippines to be integrated anyways - too many non-whites in the archipelago.
@@inigobantok1579 Philippines didn't really have resources that Americans cared about; America had and has plenty of resources. The American interest in the Philippines was mostly about naval coaling-stations, and keeping everyone else out of there. Americans didn't want the Pacific to become entirely British or entirely German - or entirely Japanese if it came to that. Turns out that the Japanese behaved so badly in the Philippines that they'd somewhat proven the Americans' point...
As a Filipino, I must commend the hilarious fact that History Matters put “North Australia” as a choice in that last part 😂 (Also I had no idea “Rizalia” existed as an actual proposal)
I know it's a joke name but if any place deserves the title "North Australia" it's the island of New Guinea because geologically speaking, it's of the same continent as Australia. But I will just settle for us being called South Papua.
Reminds me of how the Greater East Asia Conference used the English language despite condemning western imperialism because using a language specific to any one Asian nation would imply that nation was supreme over all the others.
Seems to be a trend. When the Pan-Slavic Congress took place in 1848, featuring all the Slavic groups outside the Russian Empire, they couldn't agree on a common language so they ended up having it in German.
The same idea applies to many African nations upon independence. Many African nations used the language of their colonizers officially as there were so many groups within these African nations each with their own languages.
@@eldercaster6635 That's kinda been how it's always been; nations of any significant size will inevitably have people who speak different languages, or the same language but with different enough dialects that cross-communication gets a bit challenging, so whatever the most populous language is gets adopted as "the main one" for administrative purposes. We know of this stuff at least as far back back as Bronze Age Mesopotamia.
Another reason English was chosen was also because it was the only language that all the participants could speak. Quite a few of the attendees couldn't speak Japanese even though the whole event was a Japanese propaganda farce
That’s why I always tell em “I’m not Filipino, I’m IGOROT”… 1. We never got Conquered by Spain, 2. Stay TRADITIONAL “INDIGENOUS” compared to the southerners lol… though you forgot to mention the Name “MAHARLIKA”, which Duterte almost used to rename the country lol
There is a neighborhood in a small town in Virginia where I once lived that has a neighborhood called the Philippines. Supposedly, police officers gave it that name because it got so rowdy on weekends that it reminded them of when they were in the military trying to quell riots in the Philippines after the Spanish-American War. It's still called that more than 100 years later.
@@vincenttorrijos9680 Northern Virginia has large Asian and Hispanic communities, there’s a sizable filipino community, but no where near as big as the ones in Hawai or California.
@@vincenttorrijos9680 primarily in the Hampton Roads area. Find a place that has an active, or former, Navy base and your will find a thriving Filipino American community.
@@vincenttorrijos9680 Not this town, no. This is a small mountain town. And it was probably far less diverse about 1900 or so, when the name was coined.
Rizal explicitly affirmed: ''I have believed that autonomy was bound to come little by little, and independence after a lapse of years." Simply put, he felt that independence can be attained only after Spain grants the Filipinos, first, their basic political freedoms and second, autonomy.
I feel like Rizal was tragically wrong but morally right. Few people can go from FREEDOM to an orderly society overnight. The French sure didn't in the 1790s. And what about Russia, or Haiti. It takes time to get a people to understand that FREEDOM doesn't immediately mean everyone gets cheap cheeseburgers and Nintendo Switches. It means civic responsibility and dealing with other provinces.
I had to rewind it many times to make sure I'd heard it correctly. 0:44 Who in the world told you that the Spanish defeated the rebels right before the US invaded? It's much more tragic than that. The Filipinos had won their sovereignty and the Americans invaded in a sham Battle of Manila to make it seem like they had defeated the Spanish and thus had the right to the Philippines.
This also confused me. They definitely did not defeat the freedom fighters before the US came. It was around this time that Aguinaldo dealt with American agents to help supply weapons to the locals, leading to Spain fighting multiple fronts.
This is why UA-cam cannot be a legitimate source of education unless uploaded by an institution. No one's monitoring and regulating contents like these and people will just take it as a fact.
@@ytuseracct You Tube contents are subjective and relative to whoever has wider perspectives and knowledge, otherwise the Ignorants and the Simple-Minded fall prey.
I am from the Philippines, Never knew about the race about the name "Malaysia", very interesting! Regarding the Filipinos defeating the Spanish, I think that's an overstatement to say the least, yes the Katipunan (early iteration of the AFP, basically rebels back then) won some battles but not enough to win the war, it was only when the Americans decisively defeated the Spanish fleet in Manila bay that its became a losing war for the Spanish.
@@laurnborne3830 Before the mock battle of Manila, there was a naval battle outside of Manila in the Manila Bay. A lot of ships were actually present there but only American and Spanish ships duked it out near the Port. German, British and French ships were there which also hinted that other european powers were also interested in the islands. In the Filipino movie "Heneral Luna", Luna stated that the Americans would do everything just so they could get Philippines from the Spaniards before the other powers which also might include Japan so I didn't want to say "Western/European".
I am living in the Philippines for several years now. One thing you find is many streets and sites named after politicians and that can change over time. Families and clans still have a level of influence and control over many areas also, so the "tribal" nature of the nation remains a bit with many different languages also. Fewer people actually use the national language of Filipino than their regional language. Bisaya/Cebuano is one of the larger regional languages. English is the 2nd official language with most legal documents in English. Many Filipinos can understand and converse in English in the cities but once out in the provinces, this may be a challenge, although there is usually someone who does understand and speak it well.
@@MrFareddy I am from Mindanao and I don't consider myself to be Filipino I prefer being classified as Moro because we have a proud history of not being colonized by Spanish that's why we kept most of Malay heritage, mainly Islam.
@@muhiddenmisbak1013 ….. what is your nationality then? It’s literally not a question of culture because if it were every barangay would be independent it’s just a legal thing and national thing like where you live ect
@Rain・レイゾ I'd Rather Have The Name "Ilhas do oriente" (Islands to the East) more specifically "Oriente/s" Than Both Marlika and Phillip p.s. The name was suggested by the Portuguese so no intention of favoring the Spanish
What? Bit baffled someone could not notice that. Like, surely you know what Mao, Churchill and Stalin look like, who've been in a bunch of these videos.
I think this video does an outstanding job on not only explaining why the Philippines kept their Spanish name but also showcasing the vast influence that Spain had over the Philippines and its culture. Showcasing that Spain not only brought the Catholic religion to the Philippine islands, it also brought with it its culture and cuisine. And the impact of the Spanish influence on local cuisine is very much evident during religious feasts, especially at Christmas. I also find it fascinating that majority of my Filipino friends all have Spanish last names.
@Expanded History That isn't the point of this video. The point of the video is explaining why the Philippines kept their name but simplified so the average viewer understands without being overwelmed.
Title is uninformed. "Philippines" is American English, short of "Philippine Islands". "Las Islas Pilipinas" is the Spanish name used until America's $20M buy out . "Philippines", therefore, is not a Spanish name but an American name. So, people of the country (currently called Filipinos) do not keep the present name; it was the Americans. Actually, they like to change it to "Mahalkita". Or "Ophir".
Question: had the country we now call the Philippines won the race for the name "Malaysia", what was the backup plan for the country we now call Malaysia?
Honestly we just have to let it go. Majority of the population don't want to be part of PH. Russians annexed Crimea because majority wants it. Not in this case.
cause US backed dictator in Montenegro needed a political immunity due to all cigarette,drugs,weapons,oil smuggling(during 90's) and even human trafficking and potentially war crime related accusations
Actually, the Spaniards were losing to the Philippine Independence Movement at that time and they took their war with the USA as an opportunity to save face - it’s better to lose to a white man than to the colored people as one of a high ranking Spanish officer once said. A mock battle was held in intramuros as a symbol of America defeating the Spanish.
the current name of "The Philippines" didn't equally offend everyone. people were fine with it since it and its past spanish form have been the norm for centuries.... so of course, people were fine with it. the idea of it being a name stamped by colonizers is just a direct result of its history of being a colonial construct...
Gajud! Mo-uyon ko sa inin komento. Labi na 'ton mga tagalista na grabeng pugos sa inin "isang bansa, isang wika" na amo'y kasagaran ma offend sa ngayan nan ato nasud. English: Right! I agree with this comment. Especially those tagalistas who force this "One country, One language" rhetoric are usually the ones getting offended by our current country's name. They have this some sort of pre-colonial fetish... lol
@@fatphobicandproud9003 I mean, there is not much problem looking back to our precolonial roots, it's just that it would be nice if it's not revolving around the durned Tagalogs...
This appears to miss the fourth reason for Phillipine independance: the Phillipine Commonwealth and Independance Act of 1934. After the war, the 10-year transitional period was up.
@@willw8011 I heard people suggest that, but I don't think it is convincing. Even without the Phillipines and the naval base at Cavite, the US still has bases at Hawaii, Midway, and Guam. The US would still be embargoing Japan over the Sino-Japanese war. The US Pacific Fleet is still, on it's own, almost as powerful as the entire Japanese Fleet, and more powerful when combined with the Dutch, Australian, and British. While the absence of a US presence in the Phillipines might give the Japanese an excuse not to attack the US at the outset of their war, I don't believe there was anyone in authority on the Japanese side who was interested in that excuse.
@@kemarisite The Japanese wanted to dominate Asia. The Japanese did not want USA in the Philippines, especially since the Philippines were strategically important for further expansion to the Southeast Asia. The USA wanted military bases in the Philippines due to its strategic location. Attacking the USA was never going to result in lifting the oil and steel sanctions.
@@willw8011 of course the attack wasn't going to result in the US lifting the oil and steel embargo. The point of the attack was to get the US out of the way long enough for Japan to conquer what it needed (especially the Dutch East Indies for the oil) and establish a defensive perimeter. While it is possible Japan would have felt comfortable attacking south with the nearest US base on Guam rather than at Cavite in the Phillipines, I just don't see it playing out that way. The Japanese spent the 30s, and much of the 20s, building and training their fleet with an eye on a final showdown with the US in the western Pacific, after all.
As a Filipino I find this a very good concise video, but there are three things the video forgot to mention, which I assumed was because of brevity: 1. The name "Philippines" was already agreed upon by the revolutionaries in 1899 as the name of the rebel republic they wanted to establish before the Americans came in. Article 1 of the Constitution for the new republic stated that "The political association of all Filipinos constitutes a Nation, whose State shall be named the Philippine Republic." 2. The option to grant the Philippines independence from the US in 1946 was actually a result of a long process of legislative negotiation between the US government and Filipino politicians in the colony, not a decision made as a result of the destruction of WWII. The Philippines during the 1920s had a legislature created by the Americans as a way of "fostering" democracy and as part of their "benevolent assimilation". Local, native politicians get elected and make laws which needed the approval of the US colonial government. A large legislative faction campaigned for independence during this period, and after trips to and from Washington, these Filipino politicians were successful at asking the US government for a "transitional" period to prepare them for independence. The result was a period known as the "Philippine Commonwealth" - which was supposed to last for ten years from 1936 to 1946. The Philippines would have a president and be an autonomous state in everything except foreign and military affairs, which would be taken care of under the US government. It was supposed to go smoothly until WWII broke out, and the end of the war just happened to coincide with the country's planned independence. 3. There was another name that you didn't mention which in itself has interesting (i.e., political) baggage attached to it: Maharlika. This was a name first proposed by Ferdinand Marcos, the former dictator of the country who enacted martial law from 1972-1981, whose rule was characterized by a litany of human rights abuses, as well as cases of graft and corruption. Because of this, it carries very heavy political baggage among the educated elite in the Philippines today. One other problem with the word is that while Maharlika does originally mean "freemen" (contrary to its modern usage as "nobility") in Tagalog, some historians noted that in some accounts, the term is used to mean, um, "big genitals". EDIT: I completely forgot to highlight something very important about why we Filipinos still use the word "Philippines" for our country. Just like many things the colonizers gave us, we took the name as our own, and because we took it as our own, the name "Philippines" among Filipinos is completely divorced from the Prince of Asturias who became King "El Prudente" - it has lost its original meaning because we remoulded it into something completely else. The thing about post-colonial states is that we have our own agency to choose what we want and what identity we want to have. If other people campaign to change our name in our country, and if there is a nationwide referendum on it, whatever the result - keep it or not - that's our prerogative, that's our own act of sovereignty. No one actually "won" - once we were free we changed the rules of the game. The name of our country for us is far more than just a piece of trivia for Westerners to be curious about - it's part of our identity as a people and the kinds of questions we still grapple as a people. Besides, changing the name of the country is not on the minds of many Filipinos. We have a host of FAR worse problems.
Maybe there's a chance that it can change into "Panyupayana" which is "Land Surrounded by Water" from Indian Scholars and it shows our Hindu-Buddhist Heritage
@@maharlikunph5645 That could be a suggestion, but our pre-colonial heritage is much more than just being in the Hindu-Buddhist stream, we also have our Austronesian heritage as well. EDIT: Even then if you take the route that we shouldn't include anything foreign, "Panyupayana" still has a foreign origin.
why would the revolutionary republic name the country in english before the americans taught english lol of course, they would've name it in the spanish name. whatever you read mustve just been an english translation or study made by american publications, very common stil in ph libraries also, not everyone in the philippines is ethnically austronesian despite most speaking austronesian languages...
They also forgot the third reason for indpendence: we were already working towards that since 1935 because of the Commonwealth Government. We were going to be independent (as an anchor in the the US sphere of influence) anyway.
@@7swordquanta459 Indeed, but it feels that the rest of the video implies that the idea of Filipino independence was only going to be a thing after WW2 ended.
Funny how I've learnt more about the Philippines' search for independence and early history in this 3 minutes video than in a full 4-year History degree at a Spanish university xD
Univerisities are indoctrination camps to turn people into atheist fanatic liberal extremists. They are also scams. Few are exceptions, depending on the career goal.
@@jrexx2841 How is that awkward? You're the awkward one trying to start trouble. Normal people tend to associate with each other based on shared bonds and nations do the same. Countries that share history tend to have close social and cultural ties and they know each others' history and traditions. This strengthens political bonds as well.
As a Filipino, I do love my country's name, it's unique. And also one of a handful of nations that has the "The" before the name, such as The Bahamas 🇧🇸 and The Netherlands 🇳🇱.
And working on international festivals in Thailand I have to contstantly put the "The" back on those names (along with the final S) because the Thai organisers always remove them! Mabuhay!
1:07 I love how much effort and jokes are put in here. For literally a one second shot. "The yellowest press you done did ever did see" "Hit your kids. It's the 19th century and they probably deserve it"
I love the winks to history wonks in those bits. Ofc the yellow journalism bit refers back to the whole USS Maine debacle (itself referenced at 0:38), which the New York World manipulated into public fervor to drive the US into the Spanish American War, which got the name from the paper's comic strip The Yellow Kid. There's another one I love from the one about the Australian Constitutional Crisis in which HM makes a pun on the name Kerr ("More like cur, am i right?") which is a paraphrase of a slur at Kerr that Whitlam *actually* said after the incident.
Well actually I'm Filipino and I understand everything except the last part. Philippines and Mexico, siblings of culture, in history and spirit. Though, to be fair, the choice of words, whether intentional or not, are similar to Tagalog and English which we are familiar with. Spanish was removed from our curriculum decades ago so we still do not understand a great great deal of that language unless you're from a region that retained a lot of the language. Chavacano, another language in the Philippines, is very similar to Spanish. Anyway, there are undeniably plenty of words that are similar especially in the kitchen.
Now consider that, had Philippines remained as part of Spain or USA, instead of retaining the name only, today they’d be part of NATO and wouldn’t be harassed by China over their West Sea (or South China Sea) 🔥 🔥 🔥 🤷♂️
@@PiPi00001 treat us like dogs, nurtured us, all that shit. It's been 500 years now. Let's learn to move on, but never forget the past, and absolutely stop with the fcking victim attitude. It sucks to always look to yourself as a victim
It's worth noting that the United States decided in the early 1930s to transition the Philippines to fully independent sovereignty. Multiple acts of Congress were passed to re-organize the Philippines into a self-governing Commonwealth. The time-delay was largely to provide for the creation of a separate military (which was better equipped & trained than any other comparable colonial army). While the war disrupted the timeline towards independence, the US recognized the sacrifice of the Filipinos merited honoring the original laws. Post-war military treaties did bolster the Philippine economy, especially after the conclusion of the Chinese Civil War and the start of the Korean War.
It is only worth noting if we also make a note for a sovereign nations that the US destroyed or damaged through CIA and the army! All wars done by the US since WW2 had bad intentions
I'd be really interested to see a video about the relations between the Anglo-Saxons who took over Britain and those Angles and Saxons who stayed behind in Northern Germania. How did they see each other and did they still keep contact? And what did the Anglo-Saxons in Britain think about Charlemagne's War against the German Saxons?
I think the biggest thing we could extrapolate on this topic would be : lack of sources And also by the time Charlemagne came, the insular Anglo-Saxons were separated from the mainlanders by about a few centuries ......and they shared their religion with Charlemagne rather than the pagans, so my personal guess would be : they kept very little ties with their mainland cousins and didn't see much sympathy for their struggle and probably sided with the guy pacifying this pagan stronghold and converting it to christianity
Great question, I've always wondered this. Fun fact, after the Frisian language(s), Low German/Plattdüütsch is the next most closely related mainland Germanic tongue to English. It's the direct descendant of the Old Saxon language spoken in Charlemagne's time.
I know there were moves of potential Martitime Southeast Asia unification in the form of Maphilindo but I didn't know Malaysia could've been a name that was on the table - Maphilindo was proposed to stop the creation of what's Malaysia is today too.
Didn’t help that the after the talks Indonesia and Malaysia had a border clashes from Sukarno. While in the Philippines, they were going to enact Operation Merdeka to create a false flag attempt to intervene and take up the Sabah. It failed cause the Muslim trainees for the operation got killed from mutinying learning what their actual operation was.
Malaysia was an option to be the new name of the Philippines or of the whole Maphilindo but Peninsular Malaya claimed that name when it united with Northern Borneo and became today's Malaysia.
It should be noted that in 1935, the US had already started the decade long process of giving Philippines independence This was interrupted by WWII, but somehow still concluded on time, in 1946. Also, another reason that the Philippines likely wouldn't have been given statehood (at least any time soon) was because the Philippines were really big and America really racist. At the time of independence, the Philippines had 18 million people, which would have made it the largest state in the union, at about 10% of the country's population. But, because these people were majority not white and not English speaking, the pre-civil right America definitely wouldn't want to give them statehood.
There was indeed a lot more racism in those decades, however a lot of Americans had warm feelings towards Filipinos. That increased when stories of heroic resistance and the assistance given to trapped American soldiers was reported back throughout the war.
It would have been crazy if the Philippines was a state today, when the population is 110 million! If that was the case they would have to be split into several states to get any kind of fair political representation.
@@Theorimlig Bigger than Cali, and representing a 4th of the US population today, if it were a state. Couldn’t imagine that though honestly, despite how cool that’d seem
@@Theorimlig even more than 110 million if we include the undocumented population, estimates suggest that it could be as much as 180 - 200 million people.
As a Filipino, I think the name "Philippines" sounds cool and no need to change it tbh. The name "Philippines" is a term that means nothing to me more than just a placeholder name for all people living in the Philippine islands. I do not usually think about King Philip II of Spain when I hear this name. The "Maharlika" name does not sound unifying because it commonly refers to the upper/middle class, not the working/poor class, which comprises the most of the population. Although "Maharlika" means "free people", it would still be non-unifying because the people that would be considered free in this country are only the rich/middle class people because they get to dodge more consequences than the poor. Making it the name would only highlight a major underlying problem within the current state of government, making it unattractive. They would have to find something else.
@@MrFareddy The kings of Spain had many other problems to deal with TBF. Administratively The Philippines were part of Mexico until Mexican independence.
@@MrFareddy well... Unifying a land that is so different with each other is harder than you think, Moros are hardline traditionalist who will fight to preserve their culture and even if the spanish did defeat them rebellion will still be a problem and that is why i think giving autonomy to us by the king was the right call afterall it wasn't just tribes that he has on his pockets at the time, he got the Sultanate of Sulu and Maguindanao as his tributaries which isn't exactly part of them they just pay tribute to never bother with them
@@MrFareddy there wasn't a filipino because all there was were warring tribes, all of it would be foreign to us except if you are part of their ethnicities, the concept of nationhood is what brought a unified culture in the philippines and if the philippines would have failed many city states or nation would have risen
If we are to rename our country; *_Maharlika:_* so much issues, name deeply tied to the marcos family *_Ophir:_* ginoo ko! Conspiracy theory, barbers gossip, bias to the jews... So how about this; *_International name:_* Makronesia (big islands)《Opposite of Micronesia which is part of spanish east indies before》 *_Local Name:_* Angkapulawan (the islands) [Ang+ka-pulaw(malay word for island)-an] *alt.* Bansang Kapulawan. Demonym Int'l: Makronesian Demonyn Local: Tagakapulawan (islanders) No religious bias, no ethnic bias, perfectly describes our geography and way of life...
@@sonyatheforestgaurdian3152 your pronunciation sounds so wrong and so American sounding to me as a Tagalog native speaker. It's simply pronounced Ta-ga-log, or if you have a difficulty in imagining to pronounce it, say Ta like in Tacoma, ga like in gazette, and log like in logic TAcomaGAzetteLOGic
@@Diyel I don't doubt it. My Grandmother may have been born in Catarman but she was also married and lived in the US for 50 years. I'm certain my pronunciation is trash
Imagine if the Philippines became the 49th state, then the US would have to be called: *The United States of America & the "Tag-a-long" state of the Philippines.*
The Philippines would most likely be balkanized as it would be too huge. But a Filipino state would drastically alter American political history as things like abortion and same sex marriage would be shut down by the conservative Filipino populace
1:45 It should also be stated that The Philippines had a population of 16 million at the time and America had a population of 140 million, meaning that they would habe at least 21 representatives, making them one of the most powerful U.S. states. Compare that to now and they would have 145 representatives alone!
@@The_Conspiracy_Analyst Yeah a conservative Filipino populace under the influence of the Church or some Evangelical Church, would pretty much shoot down any social justice measure and platforms like abortion and same sex marriage would be political suicide
Well the Phillipines are not the only country to keep it's Spanish Empire name... A lot of Latinamerican counties have the name of the provinces they where know as during times of the empire... Probably not the Viceroyalty's name bacause they all pretty much disintegrated but provincial names like, Venezuela, Peru, Paraguay, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Panama and Ecuador are some examples. And in the case of States the US and Mexico have many and all states named with the names they had douring the spanish empire, like Texas, Colorado, Montana(Montaña), Nevada, California.... the list goes on. The Phillipines are not unique in this regard.
Texas could've ve been called The New Philippines. What makes the name The Philippines bizarre is becuz it was literally named before a King that never set foot on the Island. Among all previous Spanish colonies it is also the only country that don't speak Spanish. It is ironic that Filipinos bare the name of their King but don't honor any of their Kings. It's some kind of witty that makes it unique. On the other hand, every countries name's are all unique on their own.
1. The term "Filipino" and "Pilipinas" is deeply rooted in the minds of the masses that it feels uneasy to change. Proof of that are the shortened versions "Pinas" and "Pinoy" 2. No one seems to be offended by the name anymore, except for ultranationalists 3. The Phillipines was never a unified enitity throughout its precolonial hostory, never a part of huge empires that spanned across asia
@@MrFareddy the "Islas" in Las Islas Filipinas means "islands". Just because the Cordillera and Islamic REGIONS weren't conquered by either the Spanish or the Americans, it doesn't mean they weren't parts of the ISLANDS of Luzon and Mindanao who are in turn, Philippine islands
@@MrFareddy the cordillerans and the moro people I agree were never under the jurisdiction of the CAPTAINCY GENERAL OF THE PHILIPPINES, but they are always part of LAS ISLAS FILIPINAS It's a bit similar to the case of Ireland, it's a part of the British Isles though it functions as an independent state
/, never a part of huge empires that spanned across asia/ somewhat related, the pre-colonial polities of Tondo, Manila, Namwaran even Sta Ana maybe Pampanga too, retained strong links to Brunei. 30 years after Spanish formal settling here, they had an uprising with a supposed help from Brunei
Filipinos' eternal enemy will always be other Filipinos. This country will never progress since that's just the eternal cycle that's being woven into its very core. 😂 It will be a miracle if those ancient relics of the past can even decide what a good government really is. 😂
Imaginary 22nd-32nd century: -Malaysia purchases Sumatra, Mindanao & Visayas, new regions of Malaysia. Land area: Around 980,000 square kilometers. 🇲🇾 -Maharlika is just Luzon. Land area: Around 110,000 square kilometers. 🇵🇭
Love the underlying humour you provide in your submissions. I find them very interesting indeed, being very keen on history, and do smile at some of your comments. Nice bit of irony and sarcasm goes a long way.
One actually pretty important note: Since the administration of Woodrow Wilson starting in 1913 the USA always had the intention of preparing the Phillipines for independence. The Jones Law of 1916 officially declared the USA intentions to grant the Phillipines independence. The Tydings-McDuffie Act of 1934 lead to the creation of the Phillipines constitution of 1935 (it lasted until 1973 and is no longer in effect) and the establishment of the Commonwealth of the Phillipines, a transitional administration meant to last for 10 years until the Phillipines was to be granted full independence in 1945. So contrary to what is portrayed in this video the USA had long since given up it's ambitions to retain control over the Phillipines prior to the second world War and WW2 actually ended up delaying the process (albeit not much).
Actually it was 1945, but Japanese occupation during WW2 and American reoccupation after the war ended delayed the independence of the Philippines by a year. Also Love from Colombia and Peru 🇨🇴🇵🇪♥️💙 🇵🇭
😆. 👱🏻♂️ does not grant a country he enslaved independence because he is nice. He does it because it is not in his financial interest to try to hold on to it. And even when he lets go he secretly tries to maintain some type of control. Anything contrary to this is 🐮 💩 made just to pacify people and calm them down; but not sincere nor intended as an action.
Right, colonialism was already controversial within America at the time. New territories needed to be either destined for incorporation as a full territory (as would happen with Hawaii, Guam, etc), or if there were too many non-whites set adrift with a much more limited US presence (Philippines, Cuba, Panama).
Because it never stopped being a colony of the West. As long as Catholicism is alive and have so much say in corporate and politics, its still a geopolitical colony of the West. Hence the American military bases around the countey
Im okay with philippines as the name of my country. Everyname has history behind it. Importantly thr namw philippines is history and there is WHY about it
@@MrFareddy refuse refuss ro submit whay the heck that is another if which is if and nothing to do now on what this country is now. The fact that muslims and ifugaos enjoy and live a normal in this country called philippines is good enough.... They were treated as a filipino as eqyal rights as filipino or citizen of this country is the fact that anything is normal. This is philippines the day you were born this is philippines already if you dont want that erase its up to you change your nationality in your birth certificate if you INSIST. Stop making any issues.
@@lanzgalang5028 that will need plebecit and many other debate. For now this country does not need some unecessary changes. This counrry need to focus on economic growth and corruption fight.
Prior to colonization, the islands of the Philippines weren't part of the same country. There were multiple tribes, kingdoms and ethninguistic groups that see themselves different from each other. Even with Spain (or US for this matter) colonizing the country, most of these groups' cultures, languages and traditions remained intact or fused with Spanish traditions which is what we associate the Philippines with today. It is also worth noting that not everyone opposed or disagreed with Spain. There were friendly provinces with the crown despite the revolution happening at that time. Part of the reason why the country was late to the revolution compared to other Spanish colonies is the division between the different tribes. And even now that these groups fly the same flag there is still a strong sense of regionalism between these ethnolinguistic groups speaking different languages, practicing traditions unique to their tribes. Some say that Filipino (the language) being based off of tagalog is unfair towards the other ethnolinguistic groups and so some people would prefer to use English rather than Filipino as it does not really represent them. Take note that Tagalog is a different language altogether than the rest of the languages spoken in the country. Kinda similar to how French was based off of Parisian despite other Frankish languages being spoken in France.
Also reminds me of Algeria (where I used to live). Arabs despised the "berbers" and the Kabylie resented the Arabs. And the upper class didn't respect either language. Everyone got done in French even after the actual French-speakers hoofed it over the water
As an American who has studied some Philippine history (and actually knows a few Filipinos), I found the video informative! I didn't know the Philippines could have been _Malaysia..._ or even "Rizalia"! Thanks for the video!
I'm a Filipino born in the Philippines who still lives in the country "The Jose Rizal Political Ideology" has always been debated amongst the people that Jose Rizal doesn't want independence but only to have the same rights with the Spanish then YES getting much more contradictory the fact Jose Rizal doesn't like the idea of independence Because filipinos back then didn't have political education cause of Spanish discrimination against the natives of the Philippines only the wealthy and spanish blood citizens have the right to pursue academics Jose Rizal has Spanish Blood thus he's privileged to have an academic background unlike the revolutionists Emilio Aguinaldo only knows how to read and write simple academics but he does not pursue higher education The truth is Jose Rizal shouldn't be a national hero based on facts and his "actual journal". The USA is only behind all things Jose Rizal should be a National Hero even is contradictory. The agenda of declaring him is promoting non-violence or not to fuel the Revolutionists Movement to spark another war (Philippine-American War) unlike Lapu-Lapu, Emilio Aguinaldo, Andres Bonifacio and many more historical war heroes. Just to control the next generation of Filipinos changing its potical movement. But take note USA brought democracy to the Philippines unlike Spain and abolishing discrimination especially pursuing academics with or without spanish blood Jose Rizal the only honorable Filipino man doesn't pursue violence but peace he prefers and equality amongst his people including science and arts also the foundation of democracy in the Philippines 📚💯
You know, excuse my words if this is taken as somewhat ignorant but I particularly enjoy the fact that the Filipino people have kept the name “The Philippines” It could be seen as symbolic, endearing and perhaps petty (love the tea) as a crafty but significant way to acknowledge the past and immortalize the breaking of colonial chains and significance of the future of the sovereign nation and self determination of the people’s way forward and beyond. Taking the power of the imperialist symbol and identity and making it you’re own.
2:03 there was also a 4th reason the US didn't want to give the Philippines statehood: that would mean a large population of catholic asians would have influence over US politics, which of course is a big no no back then
"The one that Equally offended everyone"
That's one gorgeous phrase
Still a popular strategy among politicians for everything.
Pure comedy gold
The peace only lasted until someone started saying "I am *MORE* offended than YOU"
JA JA JA
Very inclusive
The same tone as you can't be racist if you hate everyone equally
My favourite name on the chart clearly is "The place where Magellan died." Truly poetic stuff.
Magellanesia?
Magellan: we will rule over all this land and we will call it 'this land'
Philipino natives: I think we should call it 'your grave'
And that sabah part 💀
kinda ironic that Magellan wants to prove the world is round and doesn't give a shit on colonization
how about North Austrialia?
"Spoiler alert: Malaysia won"
I love that this line would have remained true regardless of which country won
HaHa
Oh 💩. Just came back from a time travel, changing successfully the timeline...
Now I see, where I was wrong.
This time YOU win, History Matters 😤
Won or Lose, it remains history no matter if you're a Malaysian or Philippines, yes Malaysia is a part of the Philippines during Spanish colonization and Malaysia was in controlled by the Philippines during Spanish colonization but Malaysia Choosing to be indipendent and not belongs to the Philippines Island, that what US said to the Philippine leaders choose what nation you're belongs, yes Philippines is appealings but Malaysian won in their indipendency into the court that they're not part of the Philippines so that's it. It remains history, Philippines appeals against Malaysia because of Spanish Claims that Malaysia is belongs to the Philippines since they're in powered of King Philip of Spain and since Philippines became 1 country because of King Philip so you need to use Philippines for the memories of King Philip preserved.
Spaniards doesn't want the ur malaysia. So they set aside it's land
@@Raymund38TVMThat's a long text to explain something that wasn't the point at all.
The first annual legislative sprint to get a majority in parliament to name your country Malaysia absolutely killed me, that was hilarious
Saaaame
Why did the Philippines want to be called Malaysia though?
I loved the "Spoiler alert: Malaysia won" 🤣😂🤣
@@user-op8fg3ny3j Because they are ethnically Malay people I guess? They do speak Austronesian languages besides English
@@user-op8fg3ny3j I think it's because we Filipinos have mostly Malayan ancestry
"It was a case of trying to find a name that everybody could agree on, which they couldn't, so the one that equally offended everyone remained" is a very accurate description of my country's name 😂
@𝗦𝗮𝘃𝗲𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 (𝗚𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗧𝗘𝗦𝗧 𝗩𝗜𝗗𝗘𝗢𝗦) Do u have some m3nt4l pr0bl3ms? your channel is g4rb4ge and this one is gold.
@@adamraserovaquera that's a bot. Other youtubers have the same bot problem, they'll criticize the channel to play up their own
Suddenly "Filipino" feels awkward to say out loud. 😐
Funnily enough it's the same reason English has the official status in India and people prefer to use that in official settings and when talking to others.
same with the language, there are hundreds of languages in the Philippines. Tagalog was declared the official (changed to 'Filipino language' whereas it really is still majorly tagalog, with spanish, english, and others) but the others really hated that because they weren't even the majority so, everyone compromised with English. They can't accept one of their own so they accept non of their own.
Finally, someone mentioned how Jose Rizal didn't actually want independence from the Spanish but more recognition and respect, I know this is going to trigger a lot of people but this is what he actually wanted
Right!
I wonder what will Rizal think when he heard that reforms are turned into revolutionary
true sa college at high school tinuturo yan ung iba siguro pla absent 😝
Yeap correct because we still don't know how to run a government and voila they killed Bonifacio.
While we were having a party because we thought we just got our true independence, nations like the French Colonial Empire and the German Empire and of course, the United States are planning to take over.
The line “It was a case of trying to find a name that everybody could agree on, which they couldn’t, and so the one that equally offended everyone remained.” came out of nowhere and made me crack up, that’s one of the funniest closing lines for anything I’ve ever heard
Makes me think of the flag referendum of New Zealand
Reminds me why English is still the lingua franca and main media language in India.
Hindi isn't a majority language/culture in India, and other minorities wish to keep it that way.
Thing is Filipinos now want to be The people here before the Spanish came, But we aren't those people, our forefathers fought for the name Filipinas, Philippines, they yelled and they died for the name Republica Ng Flipinas then they're gonna change it? It's like Killing the people that fought for Philippines again just to Make the tribes and Moro islands Happy
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It's human pride that seems to wedge an axe of division between all the tribes and tongues that want to gain hegemony in the islands. Being "equally divided" and equally powerless over the other is an equitable concept. No one rules over their neighboring tribes. It was only thru the American concept of a Republic that held every member of opposing tribes/regions together, and a world war to becoming united against a common enemy and subsequently stir the fire of NATIONALISM into every Filipino heart and vein. It's a young nation still learning to evolve and meld into one people and one country, despite being surrounded by sea barriers within and without. Right now I think that the greatest unifying force to our way of life and culture as a people is our belief in God the Creator.
@@MrFareddy literally my point, the people who isn't hispanicized are technically not Filipinos, This us we need to embrace and accept it, we have Spanish and Asian traits and that's Filipino, Philippines is our country Filipino is our identity, we are hispanicized we have to accept it
You know politics are bound to run smoothly when even a name can't be agreed on from the outset
Spanish King Felipe 6 is aware…
It's agreed upon, the name is "Philippines". There are some new proposals for the name nowadays, that's why these are almost unheard of. Are proposals bad?
If we are to rename our nation;
*_Maharlika:_* so much issues, name deeply tied to the marcos family
*_Ophir:_* ginoo ko! Conspiracy theory, barbers gossip, bias to the jews...
So how about this;
*_International name:_* Makronesia (big islands)《Opposite of Micronesia which is part of spanish east indies before》
*_Local Name:_* Angkapulawan (the islands) [Ang+ka-pulaw(malay word for island)-an] -*alt.*_ Bansang Kapulawan.
Demonym Int'l: Makronesian
Demonyn Local: Tagakapulawan (islanders)
No religious bias, no ethnic bias, perfectly describes our geography and way of life...
LOL, that's one of the names of an alternate philippines for a fanfic I was planning before the idea didn't work out.
The Capuluan Republic.
@@tumao_kaliwat_napuloI personally want Luzviminda as it encapsulates the 3 regions of the country.
Fun fact: during most of colonial times, the Philippines were not ruled directly from Madrid, but rather from Mexico City, as adminitratively they were considered an outpost of the Viceroyalty of New Spain. It was only after Mexico got its independence that Madrid started to rule the islands directly. As a result of this, most Philippino languages have not just hundreds of words coming from Spanish, but also dozens of words coming from Nahuatl, a.k.a. the Aztecs' language, as the Tlaxcaltecs (the Aztecs' rivals who also happened to speak Nahuatl) became one of the most loyal allies of Spain and would play a role in Spanish armies similar to the Gurkhas in the British armies: elite shock troops composed from natives. So plenty of Tlaxcaltecs got sent to the other side of the Pacific during their mandatory 3 year service to the crown. Who knows? In an alternate timeline, perhaps the Philippines would've become "West Mexico", we already are very similar to each other, culturally speaking.
Texas used to be known as Nueva Filipinas and there is indeed a municipality in Pampanga called "Mexico"
That makes a lot of sense because I say to my Filipino friends that they're from the Mexican Islands.
The sort of fun fact I follow this channel for.
Didn't knew of this fun fact, nice to know! Cheers from Mexico!
Yep, so if we really wanted to be a pedant and overly technical about it, the Philippines is a colony of Mexico - which was a colony of Spain.
„The one that equally offended everyone remained.“
What a beautiful mess of a world we live in. At least one thing is equal
... or four, if counting Death, Disease & Taxes.
@@jimtaylor294 I don't pay taxes. At least direct ones
@@juanantonio3487 you're are a minor then
@@juanantonio3487 you from pr?
@@brunopereira2281 A 33 year minor with a job, yeah
One other reason for not renaming might be the fact that the islands' natives fought for years to be called Filipinos. Under Spanish rule, the term 'Filipino' strictly referred to people of Spanish ancestry born in the archipelago. The natives were pejoratively called 'Indios'. Claiming the demonym for themselves showed that the natives were equal to this privileged class.
Yes, Filipino refers to those either with native filipinos with Spanish blood and other europeans born in the Philippines. And for those pure Spanish born in the Philippines, they'll be also called Filipino. However, the Filipino was been mainly associated to the natives to whom they foolishly claim that weren't on the islands when they first came. That's on the perspective of the discriminative Spaniards but not the whole world. Foreign countries identify the natives as Filipinos more than those with Spanish accent. That's why even those pure Spanish born in the country don't like to be called Filipinos. Even the peninsulares (mixed blood) also don't like to be called the same. In the social elites hierarchy Filipinos are more respected than the natives. Spaniards call the natives of tagalogs as Indios, the highlanders as igorots, and the muslim mindanaons as moros . That's why Dr. Rizal fights that the natives should be called Filipinos and should've equal rights just like the Spaniards since they were first born in the Islands before the Spanish colonization. Since mostly our national heroes are Filipinos that's where the identity was been adopted by all the people and becuz the name of the King of Spain remains. It's ironic that we bare the name of their King but we don't honor any of their King and don't speak Spanish. If only Spain took care of the Philippines better they'll have the strongest strategic points in the world. They could've win the Spanish- American war.
Not Filipino but that's sounds ridiculous, naming your as how you colonizers were referred to, to demonstrate your equal?
@@maheshpun4804 it's basically the same as taking their name and putting them on the same level as you are. It's basically Crab Mentality put into the national level.
@@maheshpun4804 Because it was a name of privilege, anyone referred to as Filipino back then was the equivalent of calling someone the rightful citizen to this country, while Indio was perceived as the outliner - tribal and regressive people, rather than people who were the rightful citizens to this country. People back then still wouldn't have thought that the Philippines could be its own country and were still under the colony, so they didn't bother wanting to change the name of the colony and instead wanted to be treated as equals within the colony by saying they wanted to be called what the country was called - a Filipino.
Eventually now though - I don't know, changing the name isn't really the most important thing, neither will it actually contribute anything to our heritage. Just because you change the country's name to the Pre-colonial term for warriors won't help educate people of Pre-colonial history.
@@MrFareddy Being an Igorot myself, not changing the name of the country wouldn't really be an insult? We're not offended whatever the name will be, because inevitably the name was important to certain parts, while didn't include us, is still incredibly impactful to these parts of history and to the majority of citizens of the country. It literally doesn't matter, and let's not turn this into a Myanmar situation where 'Burma' only represented the Burmese and not the rest of the ethnicities - because it doesn't matter. _They_ are essentially Burmese by virtue of living along the Burmese, just as how that of the Cordillera regions are still living with us even with different history. They're still a part of our country no matter what, so they're naturally called Filipinos for simply being part of the country. Even if historically they were never found out, they're still a part of us.
By far my favorite episode yet. Philippines have so much history. Which is sad because it’s been forgotten even people who lived there.
Almost all of its history is related to being conquered by spanish
@@coldplayfan7357 no just Spanish although they were the longest, hundreds of years. Chinese and Japanese as well. Filipinos probably are the most diverse and mixed in Asian or the world even.
@@coldplayfan7357 as someone who already has deep knowledge of Philippines history before Magellan happened
I sharply disagree with you, and consider it merely a phase (albeit undoubtedly a very influential one) in our history. Sadly tho the reality is that a lot of average Filipinos think like you do.
It happens everywhere.
And thus we now have a Marcos in power again, and nobody was concerned
The problem with renaming the country Maharlika is that it's a Tagalog-derived word. And considering that the Tagalogs are not even the largest ethnolinguistic group in the Philippines it's much better to settle on a name that favors nobody inside the country.
There's a reason we don't have the Federal Republic of Prussia.
It wasn't necessarily that it's a Tagalog word. It had different meanings to different ethno-linguistic groups. To the Tagalogs, it merely meant "Freemen." To some of the Bisaya, it meant "nobility."
@@Yora21 You are germans not prussijans.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 That's what the Romans called them. Although, the Duetsch do not seem to care what anyone calls them. They have a lot of names depending on the language.
@@avakiin6614 No, Maharlika means Nobility as well in Modern Filipino, not Bisaya. Timawa is the word equivalent we have for Maharlika in Bisaya, which also roughly means freemen.
I love your videos! Not only are they informative, but they also present the information in a brief way that can be remembered. Keep it up!
Yup he's the best
Yes
Rizal wanted only autonomy because he believed the Filipino people weren't just yet ready for independence. And I feel he had a very good point.
I mean. Yeaj
As of these days, he's fcking correct
@Kyle Pagayon Highly unlikely, Spain treated the archipelago poorly and Rizal went as far as criticizing them for making the Filipino people the way they are.
As for Spanish, not only we would be alienated by our austronesian neighbors, we would be speaking a useless language as the nearest Spanish speaking nation is all the way back in latin America.
Until now 2022, he's right with that one, filipinos are certainly not ready
@@kentfamilara7122 More I think they don't deserve democracy as a whole, they not only take it for granted, they'd simply go and misinform people to to vote this or that for a 6 piece bucket meal.
As a Filipina who grew up in Australia the list of potential names particularly “ north australia” was hilarious. Fascinating to know though.
it might be possible if it was British who took over the country instead of Americans
If we are to rename our country;
*_Maharlika:_* so much issues, name deeply tied to the marcos family
*_Ophir:_* ginoo ko! Conspiracy theory, barbers gossip, bias to the jews...
So how about this;
*_International name:_* Makronesia (big islands)《Opposite of Micronesia which is part of spanish east indies before》
*_Local Name:_* Angkapulawan (the islands) [Ang+ka-pulaw(malay word for island)-an] -*alt.*_ Bansang Kapulawan.
Demonym Int'l: Makronesian
Demonyn Local: Tagakapulawan (islanders)
No religious bias, no ethnic bias, no historical bias, perfectly describes our geography and way of life...
nah just keep Philippines, why change something thats been working lmao.
@@TethoSama that would like saying "My car seems to have these screeching noises but, still runs though so there's no need to tune up"
my man, that analogy sucks. lmao. That and this are two different things. its pretty much obvious am gonna have to get a mechanic to check the car out since its my livelihood. it affects me, as for our country's name? It doesn't affect me other than rankling my nationalism but thats it. Philippines is fine, whether you, someone else, or whatever dont like it.@@tumao_kaliwat_napulo
Strictly speaking, the independence of the Philippines in 1946 was dictated by the terms of the Tydings-McDuffie Act of 1934, which turned the islands from an unincorporated territory, a possession not part of the US, to a Commonwealth with a constitution and a president as of 1935, to become independent after ten further years. A complicated product of a Philippine diplomatic mission to the US and the policy imperatives of the early 30s Congress. The war, Japanese occupation and US reoccupation delayed the planned independence for just a year. Rather than creating the idea for the first time.
Yeah, it really makes you wonder how accurate videos like these are, since when they happen to be on a topic you're knowledgeable about you notice glaring mistakes.
Weren't there plans for the US to grant the Philippines independence that were temporarily delayed when the Japanese came knocking?
That's what I remember too (I'll have to go back to research again). I believed the path to independence was set out at the time the Philippines was made a Commonwealth.
@@liamweaver2944 Yes, it was this one. Tydings-McDuffie Act of 1934.
@@stacysilverman6366 Exactly, I found it weird that they made it seem that post-war Philippines was being militant against the United States. Not to mention them saying that the Philippines found it a relief that the United States beat the Spaniards when in reality the Spaniards were being surrounded in Intramuros, Manila and to save face the Spaniards staged a phoney battle with the Americans, opting to surrender to them instead of the Filipinos.
Idea for an episode: Why didn’t the Scots invade while England was busy fighting in France during the 100 years war? Didn’t the Auld Alliance require it?
Actually that is an interesting question
Well, as far as I remember the Scots did invade. There was even a battle of Neville's Cross, which, however, was won by England
In the Black Death episode, it says that the Black Death started after the Hundred Years War commenced, and that the Scottish then raided England and brought the Black Death back with them. So that is probably why the Auld Alliance wasn't invoked.
They did. A few times. IIRC they lost all of them.
@@dd.mm.ll. Actually I haven’t heard about this battle, nevertheless when England started losing after battle of Orleans, an invasion was certainly a great opportunity for Scotland to gain something valuable at the peace talks
0:08 is that Magellan’s skull😂😂😂😂
Fascinating! Had no idea there was a contest to get name of "Malaysia". Would have been a suitable name since my ancestral country is Malay in origin but...whooop there it is!
Me too.. if you guys had won, i cant think of a name for my country lol
@@ajaybangi Had the Philippines been named Malaysia, Malaysia would’ve probably been named Malacca
@@oncengenes or maybe now Malaysia can named United Kingdom of Malaysia and Philippines are Republic of Malaysia.
Man, more of us Filipinos should know that we did not solely came from Malays. Before everyone else are the descendants of Ainus in Japan who were ancient people from Africa around 30,000 years ago. Austronesians came from Hongkong and Taiwan, they are the ancestors of Malays and Polynesians, then the Chinese, Hindus from India, the Vietnamese, and etc. When the Malays came there are already tribes in the Philippines and they conquered only a third of the country, some of the tribes still exists today. The country were divided into 3 kingdoms. The Philippines became the center of trades in southern part of asia so people from different neighboring nations came. The spanish came and imported the Mabalacat tribe from Mexico. There's the Japanese as well. According to studies, modern Filipinos are from a combination of around a hundred groups of people. That explains the difference in physical features of a filipino to another.
Not to mention the Chinese immigrants still in control much of the industry.
Fun fact. Britain briefly held Manila in the 1760’s as part of the Seven Years War. Coincidentally documents were discovered then that helped Capt Cook navigate the Torres Strait between Papua and Oz mainland.
Britain and holland lost their ships trying to attack filipines
Nah. Territories were not just won or lost in battle, but used as barter after a war. The UK was even offered Cuba once, but [in hindsight wisely] said no.
^ Not unprecidented though, as the Falklands had English, Spanish & French governors at one time (all at once), as the island was contested.
It's because of the British that Filipinos that time realized that Spaniards can be defeated. That started the many rebellions. Also that the British came with many Indians as troops also remained in the Philippines after the British occupation.
More Fun Fact: Spaniards discovered Australia before the British ever got there.
Yes, the Dutch and probably the Portuguese were the first Europeans there.
I prove what I said in my series on the overrated, not-biggest, British Empire.
It should be called Bisonetteland in honour of James Bisonette
lmao that's nice
I like it.
Bisonettines
Nah
@@jamesbissonette8002 especially thank you James Bissonette
yeah turns out that coming up with a completely original name for a country is actually really hard, that's why fictional countries almost always have awful names
Yeah, i wish i can name better names too
True
It's mostly something that the average, not much of a wordsmith/literary soul although seldom revolutionary person isn't quite skilled in unfortunately...
Some fictionalized names are decent:
Gondor, Mordor, Endor, Arnor, Erbor
If I were to pick a fictionalized name for the Philippines the country would be called Pandor.
Pan meaning "all" in Latin and Dor meaning dwelling / place / home.
@@Novusod
« Pan » is Greek though, the Latin for 'all' would be « omni ».
It's interesting to know the aftermath of the Spanish Empire, I always find fascinating that period of history when the Iberians went on pieces of wood to the most stravagant and far places around the world. The name of a country always comes with an interesting story. Great video as always amigo
they also enslaved many of the people of the land they colonized and used them during the slave trade. Its why many of them as well ended up in the americas, however the african slave trade was much more prominent and economical so it eventually died out.
@@rolandomota7771 oh le slavery, literally everyone did that whats your point uh? We were also enslaving the heck out of ourselves here in the Americas, look at the Inca and their mitimaes.
@@AlejandrXZD Around the same time africans were being brought over as slaves, so too were Asians primarily by the Spaniards. It is a much more hush hush event that occured in the continental American history of it's colonization. That is all, no further argument neccesary
@@MrFareddy lol, nowhere near as shameful as being colonized by muslims or chinese. Having islam or confucianism/buddhism. Now that would be a true disgrace
@@rolandomota7771 that's the black legend and the black legend is false, Spain did non of those things
Additionally: during the first Philippine Assembly in 1898, there was another group of islands that were represented - Palau. And Guam was also governed from the Philippines during Spanish times even becoming the place where some prominent Philippine patriots were sent to exile. Wonder how things would have turned up if the Philippines as Spain administered them remained intact?
Yeah
🤓
@@caranhaes6496 Sir those are display toilets
Mfw Guam and Palau were part of the Philippines first before some parts of mindanao...
There will be tyranny and revolution against Spain not until the creation of the United Nation. Possible that the fight of the La Liga Filipina lead by Dr. Jose Rizal to Spain will be approved by the Spanish congress. 1. Make the Philippines a province of Spain. 2. Remove all Spanish priest and political officials and replaced by Filipino priest and Filipinos to lead. and 3. Filipinos having equal rights as of like the Spaniards. One possible conclusion is getting independence and be part of the European Union.
0:48 I like how history matters just redesigned the sun's face into a poker face
Bcus its Luzon. Them people always sad
Hi again phil
As a Filipino this is interesting and the "it was a case of trying to find a name that everybody could agree on, which they couldn't and so the one that equally offended everyone remained" sounds like a summary of the situation and its funny. I like it
@@MrFareddy The original definition of "Filipino" is a spaniard descent born in the philippine archipelago. Everyone else that were not spanish were called "indio". Today, you are called filipino if you're a citizen of the republic of the philippines so therefore igorots and ifugaos are filipino. Stop spreading nonsense and get your facts straight!
Does Eastasia work?
@@MrFareddy true filipinos or true inhabitants of this archipelago are those indigenous tribes and people....we,who have spanish surenames are not
@@gvd378 mostly you still are but your culture get more influence from spain, like the brittish island never stop to bieng english it just get a lot of influence from french during the norman ocuppaton
@@itzamia Eastasia doubleplusungood name
The sun with the smiley face is such a nice detail, for context, one of the Revolutionary flags used by the Philippine Army featured a sun with a face on it. It's expression is actually unnerving but I find it cool how it's still included in that brief slide at 0:48
It's the kind of sun that stares right into your soul.
We still have that flag kept around in various tourist attractions for some reason...
Same. I always get creeped out whenever i see that sun with a face. Idk why but it just feels unnerving to me.
It's a copy of the Argentinian and Uruguayan Sun with a face. It symbolizes a god in Latin America.
Well, The Philippine flag was influenced by Argentina, Uruguay and Cuba.
As in previous comments, the Tydings-Mcduffe Act guaranteed Philippine independence but I would like to take note in how much this was influenced by the work of William H. Taft. Taft being the first civil governor of the islands made it sure that the Philippines was always guaranteed independence. It was his initiative during the Taft Commission that secured us the Philippine Organic Act that allowed the Filipinos limited self-government - which was the first step in a series of steps towards eventual independence.
It was also Taft that insisted Filipinos to be treated as 'social equals' and while this did help Philippine nationalist politicians to grow within the Insular Government system, there was no written rule to safeguard the common folk from racism.
You woke joke types are as big on written rules as you are on racismmmmmm....reeeeeee!
It does look odd that immediately after conquering The Philippines with enormous loss of life USA began planning to restore its independence.
You'd think they could have skipped the "conquering with enormous loss of life" stage.
@@alanpennie The Americans were very divided at that time whether or not to colonize since they hate the Brits and the Brits are synonymous with colonization. However they do envy the Brits just as well, since colonization did bring up international prestige which the US still was not.
The guarantee of independence was a compromise to appease to both sides. Philippines will be under the USA but it will let it go someday. The senate would never allow the Philippines to be integrated anyways - too many non-whites in the archipelago.
@@alanpennietheir goal really was to spread freedom and democracy as well as finding resources
@@inigobantok1579 Philippines didn't really have resources that Americans cared about; America had and has plenty of resources.
The American interest in the Philippines was mostly about naval coaling-stations, and keeping everyone else out of there. Americans didn't want the Pacific to become entirely British or entirely German - or entirely Japanese if it came to that.
Turns out that the Japanese behaved so badly in the Philippines that they'd somewhat proven the Americans' point...
As a Filipino, I must commend the hilarious fact that History Matters put “North Australia” as a choice in that last part 😂
(Also I had no idea “Rizalia” existed as an actual proposal)
I know it's a joke name but if any place deserves the title "North Australia" it's the island of New Guinea because geologically speaking, it's of the same continent as Australia. But I will just settle for us being called South Papua.
Linguistically it's also funny as Australia means "Southern Land" so it would be "Northern Southerland Land".
It's called north Australia because of many exotic animal species.
Wasn’t Maharlika one of the proposals?
@@WaterShowsProd i come from the land down under
Reminds me of how the Greater East Asia Conference used the English language despite condemning western imperialism because using a language specific to any one Asian nation would imply that nation was supreme over all the others.
Seems to be a trend. When the Pan-Slavic Congress took place in 1848, featuring all the Slavic groups outside the Russian Empire, they couldn't agree on a common language so they ended up having it in German.
The same idea applies to many African nations upon independence. Many African nations used the language of their colonizers officially as there were so many groups within these African nations each with their own languages.
@@eldercaster6635 That's kinda been how it's always been; nations of any significant size will inevitably have people who speak different languages, or the same language but with different enough dialects that cross-communication gets a bit challenging, so whatever the most populous language is gets adopted as "the main one" for administrative purposes. We know of this stuff at least as far back back as Bronze Age Mesopotamia.
Another reason English was chosen was also because it was the only language that all the participants could speak. Quite a few of the attendees couldn't speak Japanese even though the whole event was a Japanese propaganda farce
@@eldercaster6635 You can get around pretty much anywhere in Sub-Saharan Africa speaking just English, French and Portuguese.
That’s why I always tell em “I’m not Filipino, I’m IGOROT”… 1. We never got Conquered by Spain, 2. Stay TRADITIONAL “INDIGENOUS” compared to the southerners lol… though you forgot to mention the Name “MAHARLIKA”, which Duterte almost used to rename the country lol
1:12: if I had to explain America in one picture
You forgot the non-binary part but yeah... Extremely accurate XD
There is a neighborhood in a small town in Virginia where I once lived that has a neighborhood called the Philippines.
Supposedly, police officers gave it that name because it got so rowdy on weekends that it reminded them of when they were in the military trying to quell riots in the Philippines after the Spanish-American War. It's still called that more than 100 years later.
Most original American name
Doesn't Virginia also have a fairly large Filipino population too?
@@vincenttorrijos9680 Northern Virginia has large Asian and Hispanic communities, there’s a sizable filipino community, but no where near as big as the ones in Hawai or California.
@@vincenttorrijos9680 primarily in the Hampton Roads area. Find a place that has an active, or former, Navy base and your will find a thriving Filipino American community.
@@vincenttorrijos9680 Not this town, no. This is a small mountain town. And it was probably far less diverse about 1900 or so, when the name was coined.
2:21 I love that baby Alfonso haha
Rizal explicitly affirmed: ''I have believed that autonomy was bound to come little by little, and independence after a lapse of years." Simply put, he felt that independence can be attained only after Spain grants the Filipinos, first, their basic political freedoms and second, autonomy.
I feel like Rizal was tragically wrong but morally right.
Few people can go from FREEDOM to an orderly society overnight. The French sure didn't in the 1790s. And what about Russia, or Haiti.
It takes time to get a people to understand that FREEDOM doesn't immediately mean everyone gets cheap cheeseburgers and Nintendo Switches. It means civic responsibility and dealing with other provinces.
@@zimrielthe hell you talkkng about.
@@aldrinmilespartosa1578 here's another one who probably shouldn't pollute ballotboxes with his loads.
I had to rewind it many times to make sure I'd heard it correctly. 0:44 Who in the world told you that the Spanish defeated the rebels right before the US invaded? It's much more tragic than that. The Filipinos had won their sovereignty and the Americans invaded in a sham Battle of Manila to make it seem like they had defeated the Spanish and thus had the right to the Philippines.
This also confused me.
They definitely did not defeat the freedom fighters before the US came.
It was around this time that Aguinaldo dealt with American agents to help supply weapons to the locals, leading to Spain fighting multiple fronts.
This is why UA-cam cannot be a legitimate source of education unless uploaded by an institution. No one's monitoring and regulating contents like these and people will just take it as a fact.
@@ytuseracct Hahaha! So you think 'institutions' nowadays are trusted sources of facts, instead of what THEY want us to believe!
@@raymundoii absolutely
@@ytuseracct You Tube contents are subjective and relative to whoever has wider perspectives and knowledge, otherwise the Ignorants and the Simple-Minded fall prey.
It is always worth pausing to read the full newspaper pages onscreen, and it always gets better and better with each page!
What did Poland ever do to him. :|
1:05 "The Yellowest Press You Done Ever Did See" lol. :)
@@paulrus-keaton439 Or the kids
I am from the Philippines, Never knew about the race about the name "Malaysia", very interesting! Regarding the Filipinos defeating the Spanish, I think that's an overstatement to say the least, yes the Katipunan (early iteration of the AFP, basically rebels back then) won some battles but not enough to win the war, it was only when the Americans decisively defeated the Spanish fleet in Manila bay that its became a losing war for the Spanish.
The US lost one guy in that battle and it was to heat stroke. lol
Did you know they wanted to unify into maphilidona?
Like France winning the revolutionary war for America
My school taught it wasn't a 'defeat'. They just acted to be defeated by the americans since usa bought the Philippines.
@@laurnborne3830 Before the mock battle of Manila, there was a naval battle outside of Manila in the Manila Bay. A lot of ships were actually present there but only American and Spanish ships duked it out near the Port. German, British and French ships were there which also hinted that other european powers were also interested in the islands. In the Filipino movie "Heneral Luna", Luna stated that the Americans would do everything just so they could get Philippines from the Spaniards before the other powers which also might include Japan so I didn't want to say "Western/European".
Rizalia, land of the rizzlers
I love "Fun fact: no" so freaking much! It's a nice treat!
A day that History Matters releases a video with my favorite quip is a lucky day indeed!!!
I am living in the Philippines for several years now. One thing you find is many streets and sites named after politicians and that can change over time. Families and clans still have a level of influence and control over many areas also, so the "tribal" nature of the nation remains a bit with many different languages also. Fewer people actually use the national language of Filipino than their regional language. Bisaya/Cebuano is one of the larger regional languages. English is the 2nd official language with most legal documents in English. Many Filipinos can understand and converse in English in the cities but once out in the provinces, this may be a challenge, although there is usually someone who does understand and speak it well.
@@MrFareddy those are your opinions
@@MrFareddy So they should get independence from the Philippines?
@@MrFareddy I am from Mindanao and I don't consider myself to be Filipino I prefer being classified as Moro because we have a proud history of not being colonized by Spanish that's why we kept most of Malay heritage, mainly Islam.
@@muhiddenmisbak1013 ….. what is your nationality then? It’s literally not a question of culture because if it were every barangay would be independent it’s just a legal thing and national thing like where you live ect
@@muhiddenmisbak1013 tapos nakalagay sa PSA mo Filipino ung citizen tas kukuha ka ng pasaport Filipino ung citizen aguy aguy FILIPINO tayo ah
you only need to say the word "Philippines" and we're automatically here
It is sad that we're that desperate for attention in the international stage.
@@laurnborne3830 we got our international recognition, and it's pretty big lol
well Philippines has been subjected to international attention lately
@@Monika-hw7ey yep, pretty big shame.
@@Monika-hw7ey International Recognition but its everyone making fun of us
"Instead they came to a compromise with the rebels: you shut up and we'll keep the land. Shockingly, this led to war" xDDDDDDDDDD
All politics aside, I've always thought that the Philippines has a beautiful name.
@Jan Krixtian im filipino and i love the name philippines rather than malaysia
I'm Spanish, and I don't like the name. Wish I moved there instead of Cambodia.
Tbh I'd rather have rizal's name as my country's name rather than Philip :/
@Rain・レイゾ I'd Rather Have The Name "Ilhas do oriente" (Islands to the East) more specifically "Oriente/s" Than Both Marlika and Phillip
p.s. The name was suggested by the Portuguese so no intention of favoring the Spanish
@@MrFareddy those work, too 👍
As a long time viewer I never realized how close the characters look like to the actual people until I saw this video about my country. Nice work!
sorry, I'm just curious but are all names in the philippines of spanish origin? and if it is that way, how many people there speak spanish?
I especially LOL'd @ Rizal. Yep, that's him alright.
What? Bit baffled someone could not notice that. Like, surely you know what Mao, Churchill and Stalin look like, who've been in a bunch of these videos.
@@ちにたてとな almost nobody speaks spanish
@@Jotari it hits much closer to home when it's the historical figures you grew up with.
I think this video does an outstanding job on not only explaining why the Philippines kept their Spanish name but also showcasing the vast influence that Spain had over the Philippines and its culture. Showcasing that Spain not only brought the Catholic religion to the Philippine islands, it also brought with it its culture and cuisine. And the impact of the Spanish influence on local cuisine is very much evident during religious feasts, especially at Christmas. I also find it fascinating that majority of my Filipino friends all have Spanish last names.
I love your History channel as well ExpanedHistory!
What about bogeli wogely 😞
@Expanded History That isn't the point of this video. The point of the video is explaining why the Philippines kept their name but simplified so the average viewer understands without being overwelmed.
And don't forget the cringe filipino religious Christian moms in Facebook
Two words. Cultural Assimilation!
Title is uninformed.
"Philippines" is American English, short of "Philippine Islands".
"Las Islas Pilipinas" is the Spanish name used until America's $20M buy out .
"Philippines", therefore, is not a Spanish name but an American name.
So, people of the country (currently called Filipinos) do not keep the present name; it was the Americans.
Actually, they like to change it to "Mahalkita".
Or "Ophir".
Question: had the country we now call the Philippines won the race for the name "Malaysia", what was the backup plan for the country we now call Malaysia?
Probably south malaysia.
Plan B was to name it Langkasuka
Singapore
The Douches (Dutch islands)
Malacca
2:48 Loved the placard saying "No Sabah for you". I agree that even to this day us (some of us, excluding me and others) are still salty about it. XD.
Honestly we just have to let it go. Majority of the population don't want to be part of PH. Russians annexed Crimea because majority wants it. Not in this case.
dont care about sabah but lmao
Why did Montenegro split from Serbia in 2006 instead of going with the other former Yugoslav states in the 90s?
Fire in the background.
cause US backed dictator in Montenegro needed a political immunity due to all cigarette,drugs,weapons,oil smuggling(during 90's) and even human trafficking and potentially war crime related accusations
@@Weeboslav If any of this is real then why didn’t the Serbian government do something about it long before 2006?
Because they didn't really care. It took them awhile to grow an nationality independent of Serbia.
They were sleeping
Actually, the Spaniards were losing to the Philippine Independence Movement at that time and they took their war with the USA as an opportunity to save face - it’s better to lose to a white man than to the colored people as one of a high ranking Spanish officer once said. A mock battle was held in intramuros as a symbol of America defeating the Spanish.
the current name of "The Philippines" didn't equally offend everyone. people were fine with it since it and its past spanish form have been the norm for centuries.... so of course, people were fine with it. the idea of it being a name stamped by colonizers is just a direct result of its history of being a colonial construct...
I guess it kinda offended everyone who cared enough to have a desire to changed it.
Most filipinos didn't really care enough so I guess it just stuck.
Perhaps only the government officials and political parties only cared.
there's not much of a good alternative anyways
Gajud! Mo-uyon ko sa inin komento. Labi na 'ton mga tagalista na grabeng pugos sa inin "isang bansa, isang wika" na amo'y kasagaran ma offend sa ngayan nan ato nasud.
English: Right! I agree with this comment. Especially those tagalistas who force this "One country, One language" rhetoric are usually the ones getting offended by our current country's name.
They have this some sort of pre-colonial fetish... lol
@@fatphobicandproud9003 I mean, there is not much problem looking back to our precolonial roots, it's just that it would be nice if it's not revolving around the durned Tagalogs...
This appears to miss the fourth reason for Phillipine independance: the Phillipine Commonwealth and Independance Act of 1934. After the war, the 10-year transitional period was up.
If the USA would have accelerated the transition period and dropped the Philippines in 1940, then Japan might not have attacked the USA.
@@willw8011 I heard people suggest that, but I don't think it is convincing. Even without the Phillipines and the naval base at Cavite, the US still has bases at Hawaii, Midway, and Guam. The US would still be embargoing Japan over the Sino-Japanese war. The US Pacific Fleet is still, on it's own, almost as powerful as the entire Japanese Fleet, and more powerful when combined with the Dutch, Australian, and British. While the absence of a US presence in the Phillipines might give the Japanese an excuse not to attack the US at the outset of their war, I don't believe there was anyone in authority on the Japanese side who was interested in that excuse.
@@kemarisite The Japanese wanted to dominate Asia. The Japanese did not want USA in the Philippines, especially since the Philippines were strategically important for further expansion to the Southeast Asia. The USA wanted military bases in the Philippines due to its strategic location.
Attacking the USA was never going to result in lifting the oil and steel sanctions.
@@willw8011 of course the attack wasn't going to result in the US lifting the oil and steel embargo. The point of the attack was to get the US out of the way long enough for Japan to conquer what it needed (especially the Dutch East Indies for the oil) and establish a defensive perimeter. While it is possible Japan would have felt comfortable attacking south with the nearest US base on Guam rather than at Cavite in the Phillipines, I just don't see it playing out that way. The Japanese spent the 30s, and much of the 20s, building and training their fleet with an eye on a final showdown with the US in the western Pacific, after all.
Dumbocracy is a bandwagon fallacy. Read the Protocols to understand why demoncracy is shit.
“…the one that equally offended everyone remained.” My new favorite HM line
The Philippines would’ve been so much better if they’d agreed to being part of the U.S.
As a Filipino I find this a very good concise video, but there are three things the video forgot to mention, which I assumed was because of brevity:
1. The name "Philippines" was already agreed upon by the revolutionaries in 1899 as the name of the rebel republic they wanted to establish before the Americans came in. Article 1 of the Constitution for the new republic stated that "The political association of all Filipinos constitutes a Nation, whose State shall be named the Philippine Republic."
2. The option to grant the Philippines independence from the US in 1946 was actually a result of a long process of legislative negotiation between the US government and Filipino politicians in the colony, not a decision made as a result of the destruction of WWII. The Philippines during the 1920s had a legislature created by the Americans as a way of "fostering" democracy and as part of their "benevolent assimilation". Local, native politicians get elected and make laws which needed the approval of the US colonial government.
A large legislative faction campaigned for independence during this period, and after trips to and from Washington, these Filipino politicians were successful at asking the US government for a "transitional" period to prepare them for independence. The result was a period known as the "Philippine Commonwealth" - which was supposed to last for ten years from 1936 to 1946. The Philippines would have a president and be an autonomous state in everything except foreign and military affairs, which would be taken care of under the US government. It was supposed to go smoothly until WWII broke out, and the end of the war just happened to coincide with the country's planned independence.
3. There was another name that you didn't mention which in itself has interesting (i.e., political) baggage attached to it: Maharlika. This was a name first proposed by Ferdinand Marcos, the former dictator of the country who enacted martial law from 1972-1981, whose rule was characterized by a litany of human rights abuses, as well as cases of graft and corruption. Because of this, it carries very heavy political baggage among the educated elite in the Philippines today.
One other problem with the word is that while Maharlika does originally mean "freemen" (contrary to its modern usage as "nobility") in Tagalog, some historians noted that in some accounts, the term is used to mean, um, "big genitals".
EDIT: I completely forgot to highlight something very important about why we Filipinos still use the word "Philippines" for our country. Just like many things the colonizers gave us, we took the name as our own, and because we took it as our own, the name "Philippines" among Filipinos is completely divorced from the Prince of Asturias who became King "El Prudente" - it has lost its original meaning because we remoulded it into something completely else.
The thing about post-colonial states is that we have our own agency to choose what we want and what identity we want to have. If other people campaign to change our name in our country, and if there is a nationwide referendum on it, whatever the result - keep it or not - that's our prerogative, that's our own act of sovereignty. No one actually "won" - once we were free we changed the rules of the game.
The name of our country for us is far more than just a piece of trivia for Westerners to be curious about - it's part of our identity as a people and the kinds of questions we still grapple as a people. Besides, changing the name of the country is not on the minds of many Filipinos. We have a host of FAR worse problems.
So, despite the name originating from a despot, everyone wins if it was used?
Maybe there's a chance that it can change into "Panyupayana" which is "Land Surrounded by Water" from Indian Scholars and it shows our Hindu-Buddhist Heritage
@@maharlikunph5645 That could be a suggestion, but our pre-colonial heritage is much more than just being in the Hindu-Buddhist stream, we also have our Austronesian heritage as well.
EDIT: Even then if you take the route that we shouldn't include anything foreign, "Panyupayana" still has a foreign origin.
Maharlika was briefly implied by him ("Barring the recent push to change the name")
why would the revolutionary republic name the country in english before the americans taught english lol
of course, they would've name it in the spanish name. whatever you read mustve just been an english translation or study made by american publications, very common stil in ph libraries
also, not everyone in the philippines is ethnically austronesian despite most speaking austronesian languages...
They also forgot the third reason for indpendence: we were already working towards that since 1935 because of the Commonwealth Government. We were going to be independent (as an anchor in the the US sphere of influence) anyway.
It's somewhat implied already in 1:59-2:00. I guess the dude didn't want to say it probably because of info overload.
@@7swordquanta459 Indeed, but it feels that the rest of the video implies that the idea of Filipino independence was only going to be a thing after WW2 ended.
@@kaijudirector5336
True. The US was working with the PIs to get full independence when the Japanese took it. That slowed things down for a bit...
@@kaijudirector5336 it was readily apparent that Japan would have annexed it from the beginning, that is why th U.S. stayed there so long.
@@The_Conspiracy_Analyst Well, that might have been an influencing factor, but independence was more or less always the plan.
Funny how I've learnt more about the Philippines' search for independence and early history in this 3 minutes video than in a full 4-year History degree at a Spanish university xD
Where? What University? Philippines history is taught in History?
@@jenicaolayer9615 Spain, probably
Univerisities are indoctrination camps to turn people into atheist fanatic liberal extremists. They are also scams. Few are exceptions, depending on the career goal.
@@deafshark9932 Awkward for a colonizer to study its colonies history but ok
@@jrexx2841 How is that awkward? You're the awkward one trying to start trouble. Normal people tend to associate with each other based on shared bonds and nations do the same. Countries that share history tend to have close social and cultural ties and they know each others' history and traditions. This strengthens political bonds as well.
Correction. Malaysia stole our name and North Borneo.
As a Filipino, I do love my country's name, it's unique. And also one of a handful of nations that has the "The" before the name, such as The Bahamas 🇧🇸 and The Netherlands 🇳🇱.
And working on international festivals in Thailand I have to contstantly put the "The" back on those names (along with the final S) because the Thai organisers always remove them! Mabuhay!
Weird since in Tagalog, it's just "Pilipinas" (Philippines), not "Ang Pilipinas" (The Philippines)
Like "The Dominican Republic" (La República Dominicana).
And like the Ukraine. And in the past, Argentina used to be called "the Argentine" too.
Same my friend as a filipino i agreed
1:07
I love how much effort and jokes are put in here. For literally a one second shot.
"The yellowest press you done did ever did see"
"Hit your kids. It's the 19th century and they probably deserve it"
That whole news article is amazing 🤣
Page 614 of that newspaper existed lol😂
I love the winks to history wonks in those bits. Ofc the yellow journalism bit refers back to the whole USS Maine debacle (itself referenced at 0:38), which the New York World manipulated into public fervor to drive the US into the Spanish American War, which got the name from the paper's comic strip The Yellow Kid.
There's another one I love from the one about the Australian Constitutional Crisis in which HM makes a pun on the name Kerr ("More like cur, am i right?") which is a paraphrase of a slur at Kerr that Whitlam *actually* said after the incident.
I work with kids. I’d never hit a child, but some kids really do deserve it.
"Poland still not a thing"
Filipinas y Mexico, hermanos de cultura, historia y espirito 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽 Me digo lo como un filipino ✌️
Únanse a la familia Hispana amigos filipinos, más de 30 países esperan su llegada ❤️❤️❤️
@@LeonidasArg2021 the only hurdle would be the the (sometimes extreme) anti-hispanic-culture sentiment people have here.
Ironic that Filipinos will not even understand your comment unless translated to English.
Well actually I'm Filipino and I understand everything except the last part. Philippines and Mexico, siblings of culture, in history and spirit. Though, to be fair, the choice of words, whether intentional or not, are similar to Tagalog and English which we are familiar with. Spanish was removed from our curriculum decades ago so we still do not understand a great great deal of that language unless you're from a region that retained a lot of the language. Chavacano, another language in the Philippines, is very similar to Spanish. Anyway, there are undeniably plenty of words that are similar especially in the kitchen.
Hermanos de cultura?? De que hablas? No podríamos ser más diferentes a esos chinos
US didnt want to pay for the wartorn Phillipines. Sound about right
Now consider that, had Philippines remained as part of Spain or USA, instead of retaining the name only, today they’d be part of NATO and wouldn’t be harassed by China over their West Sea (or South China Sea) 🔥 🔥 🔥 🤷♂️
2:00
How dare you! Being shot at is a more time honoured American tradition than throwing money into the money pit!
"the name that equally offended everyone" I love this channel's humour
Mindanao was never been part of the philippines
Tama po. Mindanao is a province of China 😂😂😂
Philip II had a future country named after him. Greatest present ever.
While its the worst for us.
@@night6724 he doesn't want to be called Filipino, that's why
@vlad I mean i dont want to either but not like I have a choice
It's a name given to us by people who once treated us like dogs
@@PiPi00001 treat us like dogs, nurtured us, all that shit. It's been 500 years now. Let's learn to move on, but never forget the past, and absolutely stop with the fcking victim attitude. It sucks to always look to yourself as a victim
It was called Filipinas long before the dumbocratic puppet of the US country was formed.
It's worth noting that the United States decided in the early 1930s to transition the Philippines to fully independent sovereignty. Multiple acts of Congress were passed to re-organize the Philippines into a self-governing Commonwealth. The time-delay was largely to provide for the creation of a separate military (which was better equipped & trained than any other comparable colonial army). While the war disrupted the timeline towards independence, the US recognized the sacrifice of the Filipinos merited honoring the original laws. Post-war military treaties did bolster the Philippine economy, especially after the conclusion of the Chinese Civil War and the start of the Korean War.
It is only worth noting if we also make a note for a sovereign nations that the US destroyed or damaged through CIA and the army! All wars done by the US since WW2 had bad intentions
I'd be really interested to see a video about the relations between the Anglo-Saxons who took over Britain and those Angles and Saxons who stayed behind in Northern Germania. How did they see each other and did they still keep contact? And what did the Anglo-Saxons in Britain think about Charlemagne's War against the German Saxons?
I think the biggest thing we could extrapolate on this topic would be : lack of sources
And also by the time Charlemagne came, the insular Anglo-Saxons were separated from the mainlanders by about a few centuries ......and they shared their religion with Charlemagne rather than the pagans, so my personal guess would be : they kept very little ties with their mainland cousins and didn't see much sympathy for their struggle and probably sided with the guy pacifying this pagan stronghold and converting it to christianity
That would be a cool video but I doubt there’s much info on it.
They treated each other the best way that gave their group more wealth. That is Europe.
Great question, I've always wondered this. Fun fact, after the Frisian language(s), Low German/Plattdüütsch is the next most closely related mainland Germanic tongue to English. It's the direct descendant of the Old Saxon language spoken in Charlemagne's time.
@@aaronmarks9366 Dutch is a joke, and they should just make English their official language already.
WE COULD HAVE BEEN MALAYSIA!?
I know there were moves of potential Martitime Southeast Asia unification in the form of Maphilindo but I didn't know Malaysia could've been a name that was on the table - Maphilindo was proposed to stop the creation of what's Malaysia is today too.
Didn’t help that the after the talks Indonesia and Malaysia had a border clashes from Sukarno. While in the Philippines, they were going to enact Operation Merdeka to create a false flag attempt to intervene and take up the Sabah. It failed cause the Muslim trainees for the operation got killed from mutinying learning what their actual operation was.
Malaysia was an option to be the new name of the Philippines or of the whole Maphilindo but Peninsular Malaya claimed that name when it united with Northern Borneo and became today's Malaysia.
Maphilindo is suck, only the Philippines and Indonesia benefited
It should be noted that in 1935, the US had already started the decade long process of giving Philippines independence This was interrupted by WWII, but somehow still concluded on time, in 1946.
Also, another reason that the Philippines likely wouldn't have been given statehood (at least any time soon) was because the Philippines were really big and America really racist. At the time of independence, the Philippines had 18 million people, which would have made it the largest state in the union, at about 10% of the country's population. But, because these people were majority not white and not English speaking, the pre-civil right America definitely wouldn't want to give them statehood.
There was indeed a lot more racism in those decades, however a lot of Americans had warm feelings towards Filipinos. That increased when stories of heroic resistance and the assistance given to trapped American soldiers was reported back throughout the war.
It would have been crazy if the Philippines was a state today, when the population is 110 million! If that was the case they would have to be split into several states to get any kind of fair political representation.
@@Theorimlig Bigger than Cali, and representing a 4th of the US population today, if it were a state. Couldn’t imagine that though honestly, despite how cool that’d seem
Hell we don't want to give PR statehood today for much the same reason.
@@Theorimlig even more than 110 million if we include the undocumented population, estimates suggest that it could be as much as 180 - 200 million people.
As a Filipino, I think the name "Philippines" sounds cool and no need to change it tbh.
The name "Philippines" is a term that means nothing to me more than just a placeholder name for all people living in the Philippine islands. I do not usually think about King Philip II of Spain when I hear this name.
The "Maharlika" name does not sound unifying because it commonly refers to the upper/middle class, not the working/poor class, which comprises the most of the population. Although "Maharlika" means "free people", it would still be non-unifying because the people that would be considered free in this country are only the rich/middle class people because they get to dodge more consequences than the poor. Making it the name would only highlight a major underlying problem within the current state of government, making it unattractive. They would have to find something else.
We're the only "P" country in South east asia LETS GOO
don't forget the "The".
Saribayan sounds better
@@MilljedhP That’s quite an interesting proposal
Malaya yun di maharlika
Thank you for this video! I didn't even know the name "Malaysia" was considered!
Then again, the Philippines pretty much owns the name now, much like the Americans own America (from the name Amerigo).
@@MrFareddy Rephrased it for people with limited English ability.
@@MrFareddy That isn’t the point.
Because for all his flaws, Philip II was a good sovereign. He even let the tribal chieftains in the Philippines rule themselves.
@@MrFareddy
The kings of Spain had many other problems to deal with TBF.
Administratively The Philippines were part of Mexico until Mexican independence.
@@MrFareddy well... Unifying a land that is so different with each other is harder than you think, Moros are hardline traditionalist who will fight to preserve their culture and even if the spanish did defeat them rebellion will still be a problem and that is why i think giving autonomy to us by the king was the right call afterall it wasn't just tribes that he has on his pockets at the time, he got the Sultanate of Sulu and Maguindanao as his tributaries which isn't exactly part of them they just pay tribute to never bother with them
@@MrFareddy well everyone was not a filipino before the spanish arrived
@@MrFareddy there wasn't a filipino because all there was were warring tribes, all of it would be foreign to us except if you are part of their ethnicities, the concept of nationhood is what brought a unified culture in the philippines and if the philippines would have failed many city states or nation would have risen
If we are to rename our country;
*_Maharlika:_* so much issues, name deeply tied to the marcos family
*_Ophir:_* ginoo ko! Conspiracy theory, barbers gossip, bias to the jews...
So how about this;
*_International name:_* Makronesia (big islands)《Opposite of Micronesia which is part of spanish east indies before》
*_Local Name:_* Angkapulawan (the islands) [Ang+ka-pulaw(malay word for island)-an] *alt.* Bansang Kapulawan.
Demonym Int'l: Makronesian
Demonyn Local: Tagakapulawan (islanders)
No religious bias, no ethnic bias, perfectly describes our geography and way of life...
For future, Tagalog is not pronounced Tag-a-log. It's pronounced Te-GAW-lowg or IPA(tə-ga-log)
Ta-ga-log is how we in Tagalog regions pronounced it today.
My grandma spoke Visayan as her first language. I guess the pronunciation I learned was effected by her accent.
@@sonyatheforestgaurdian3152 your pronunciation sounds so wrong and so American sounding to me as a Tagalog native speaker. It's simply pronounced Ta-ga-log, or if you have a difficulty in imagining to pronounce it, say Ta like in Tacoma, ga like in gazette, and log like in logic
TAcomaGAzetteLOGic
@@Diyel I don't doubt it. My Grandmother may have been born in Catarman but she was also married and lived in the US for 50 years. I'm certain my pronunciation is trash
If it aint broke, don’t fix
Imagine if the Philippines became the 49th state, then the US would have to be called:
*The United States of America & the "Tag-a-long" state of the Philippines.*
The Philippines would most likely be balkanized as it would be too huge.
But a Filipino state would drastically alter American political history as things like abortion and same sex marriage would be shut down by the conservative Filipino populace
1:45 It should also be stated that The Philippines had a population of 16 million at the time and America had a population of 140 million, meaning that they would habe at least 21 representatives, making them one of the most powerful U.S. states. Compare that to now and they would have 145 representatives alone!
That would make the USA very, very based. Yeah, they would vote for gibbs a lot, but a bunch of bullshit we have in the US now wouldn't fly.
@@The_Conspiracy_Analyst
Yeah a conservative Filipino populace under the influence of the Church or some Evangelical Church, would pretty much shoot down any social justice measure and platforms like abortion and same sex marriage would be political suicide
Well the Phillipines are not the only country to keep it's Spanish Empire name... A lot of Latinamerican counties have the name of the provinces they where know as during times of the empire... Probably not the Viceroyalty's name bacause they all pretty much disintegrated but provincial names like, Venezuela, Peru, Paraguay, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Panama and Ecuador are some examples. And in the case of States the US and Mexico have many and all states named with the names they had douring the spanish empire, like Texas, Colorado, Montana(Montaña), Nevada, California.... the list goes on. The Phillipines are not unique in this regard.
Well, at least its named after a King
Texas could've ve been called The New Philippines. What makes the name The Philippines bizarre is becuz it was literally named before a King that never set foot on the Island. Among all previous Spanish colonies it is also the only country that don't speak Spanish. It is ironic that Filipinos bare the name of their King but don't honor any of their Kings. It's some kind of witty that makes it unique. On the other hand, every countries name's are all unique on their own.
Simple, Philippines as a thing didn't exist before the Spanish
“¿A qué la independencia si los esclavos de hoy serán los tiranos de mañana?”
-José Rizal
1. The term "Filipino" and "Pilipinas" is deeply rooted in the minds of the masses that it feels uneasy to change. Proof of that are the shortened versions "Pinas" and "Pinoy"
2. No one seems to be offended by the name anymore, except for ultranationalists
3. The Phillipines was never a unified enitity throughout its precolonial hostory, never a part of huge empires that spanned across asia
@@MrFareddy the "Islas" in Las Islas Filipinas means "islands". Just because the Cordillera and Islamic REGIONS weren't conquered by either the Spanish or the Americans, it doesn't mean they weren't parts of the ISLANDS of Luzon and Mindanao who are in turn, Philippine islands
@@MrFareddy the cordillerans and the moro people I agree were never under the jurisdiction of the CAPTAINCY GENERAL OF THE PHILIPPINES, but they are always part of LAS ISLAS FILIPINAS
It's a bit similar to the case of Ireland, it's a part of the British Isles though it functions as an independent state
/, never a part of huge empires that spanned across asia/
somewhat related, the pre-colonial polities of Tondo, Manila, Namwaran even Sta Ana maybe Pampanga too, retained strong links to Brunei. 30 years after Spanish formal settling here, they had an uprising with a supposed help from Brunei
Love Philippines🇵🇭 from Sweden🇸🇪
Filipinos' eternal enemy will always be other Filipinos. This country will never progress since that's just the eternal cycle that's being woven into its very core. 😂
It will be a miracle if those ancient relics of the past can even decide what a good government really is. 😂
Imaginary 22nd-32nd century:
-Malaysia purchases Sumatra, Mindanao & Visayas, new regions of Malaysia. Land area: Around 980,000 square kilometers. 🇲🇾
-Maharlika is just Luzon. Land area: Around 110,000 square kilometers. 🇵🇭
2:53 I would actually be fully in favour of "North Australia"
Hell no.
@@retsreinyrelgeinthrelaveri1456 Hell yes.
I'm pretty sure it would automatically make the philippines a meme alongside Australia
@@user-Nerd72ekd82kw Exactly.
Love the underlying humour you provide in your submissions. I find them very interesting indeed, being very keen on history, and do smile at some of your comments. Nice bit of irony and sarcasm goes a long way.
One actually pretty important note: Since the administration of Woodrow Wilson starting in 1913 the USA always had the intention of preparing the Phillipines for independence. The Jones Law of 1916 officially declared the USA intentions to grant the Phillipines independence. The Tydings-McDuffie Act of 1934 lead to the creation of the Phillipines constitution of 1935 (it lasted until 1973 and is no longer in effect) and the establishment of the Commonwealth of the Phillipines, a transitional administration meant to last for 10 years until the Phillipines was to be granted full independence in 1945.
So contrary to what is portrayed in this video the USA had long since given up it's ambitions to retain control over the Phillipines prior to the second world War and WW2 actually ended up delaying the process (albeit not much).
Even if the usa considered the filipino as animals and exposed them in zoos?
*1946
Actually it was 1945, but Japanese occupation during WW2 and American reoccupation after the war ended delayed the independence of the Philippines by a year. Also Love from Colombia and Peru 🇨🇴🇵🇪♥️💙 🇵🇭
😆. 👱🏻♂️ does not grant a country he enslaved independence because he is nice. He does it because it is not in his financial interest to try to hold on to it. And even when he lets go he secretly tries to maintain some type of control. Anything contrary to this is 🐮 💩 made just to pacify people and calm them down; but not sincere nor intended as an action.
Right, colonialism was already controversial within America at the time. New territories needed to be either destined for incorporation as a full territory (as would happen with Hawaii, Guam, etc), or if there were too many non-whites set adrift with a much more limited US presence (Philippines, Cuba, Panama).
Because it never stopped being a colony of the West. As long as Catholicism is alive and have so much say in corporate and politics, its still a geopolitical colony of the West. Hence the American military bases around the countey
Im okay with philippines as the name of my country. Everyname has history behind it. Importantly thr namw philippines is history and there is WHY about it
Duterte and Marcos wanted to change maharlika right
@@MrFareddy refuse refuss ro submit whay the heck that is another if which is if and nothing to do now on what this country is now. The fact that muslims and ifugaos enjoy and live a normal in this country called philippines is good enough.... They were treated as a filipino as eqyal rights as filipino or citizen of this country is the fact that anything is normal. This is philippines the day you were born this is philippines already if you dont want that erase its up to you change your nationality in your birth certificate if you INSIST. Stop making any issues.
@@lanzgalang5028 that will need plebecit and many other debate. For now this country does not need some unecessary changes. This counrry need to focus on economic growth and corruption fight.
Prior to colonization, the islands of the Philippines weren't part of the same country. There were multiple tribes, kingdoms and ethninguistic groups that see themselves different from each other. Even with Spain (or US for this matter) colonizing the country, most of these groups' cultures, languages and traditions remained intact or fused with Spanish traditions which is what we associate the Philippines with today. It is also worth noting that not everyone opposed or disagreed with Spain. There were friendly provinces with the crown despite the revolution happening at that time. Part of the reason why the country was late to the revolution compared to other Spanish colonies is the division between the different tribes. And even now that these groups fly the same flag there is still a strong sense of regionalism between these ethnolinguistic groups speaking different languages, practicing traditions unique to their tribes. Some say that Filipino (the language) being based off of tagalog is unfair towards the other ethnolinguistic groups and so some people would prefer to use English rather than Filipino as it does not really represent them. Take note that Tagalog is a different language altogether than the rest of the languages spoken in the country. Kinda similar to how French was based off of Parisian despite other Frankish languages being spoken in France.
Also reminds me of Algeria (where I used to live). Arabs despised the "berbers" and the Kabylie resented the Arabs. And the upper class didn't respect either language. Everyone got done in French even after the actual French-speakers hoofed it over the water
As an American who has studied some Philippine history (and actually knows a few Filipinos), I found the video informative! I didn't know the Philippines could have been _Malaysia..._ or even "Rizalia"! Thanks for the video!
I'm a Filipino born in the Philippines who still lives in the country "The Jose Rizal Political Ideology" has always been debated amongst the people that Jose Rizal doesn't want independence but only to have the same rights with the Spanish then YES getting much more contradictory the fact Jose Rizal doesn't like the idea of independence
Because filipinos back then didn't have political education cause of Spanish discrimination against the natives of the Philippines only the wealthy and spanish blood citizens have the right to pursue academics
Jose Rizal has Spanish Blood thus he's privileged to have an academic background unlike the revolutionists Emilio Aguinaldo only knows how to read and write simple academics but he does not pursue higher education
The truth is Jose Rizal shouldn't be a national hero based on facts and his "actual journal".
The USA is only behind all things Jose Rizal should be a National Hero even is contradictory. The agenda of declaring him is promoting non-violence or not to fuel the Revolutionists Movement to spark another war (Philippine-American War) unlike Lapu-Lapu, Emilio Aguinaldo, Andres Bonifacio and many more historical war heroes. Just to control the next generation of Filipinos changing its potical movement. But take note USA brought democracy to the Philippines unlike Spain and abolishing discrimination especially pursuing academics with or without spanish blood
Jose Rizal the only honorable Filipino man doesn't pursue violence but peace he prefers and equality amongst his people including science and arts also the foundation of democracy in the Philippines 📚💯
You know, excuse my words if this is taken as somewhat ignorant but I particularly enjoy the fact that the Filipino people have kept the name “The Philippines”
It could be seen as symbolic, endearing and perhaps petty (love the tea) as a crafty but significant way to acknowledge the past and immortalize the breaking of colonial chains and significance of the future of the sovereign nation and self determination of the people’s way forward and beyond. Taking the power of the imperialist symbol and identity and making it you’re own.
Yes! This is exactly how it feels as filipinos or at least my family and friends. Also, I don't think really much about it until it's mentioned.
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> too expensive to rebuild
Uhm, Marshall Plan?
Petition to rename Philippines into " Republic of Maritesse"
2:03 there was also a 4th reason the US didn't want to give the Philippines statehood: that would mean a large population of catholic asians would have influence over US politics, which of course is a big no no back then