I tried one of these today for the first time. It took a couple of minutes to get used to but, oh man, I'm in love with these. Just walking on one of these got my heart pumping and the sweat going way more than walking on a standard treadmill. Also, after about a half hour, I get some tightness in my IT band just walking on a standard treadmill but felt fine on one of these. I've avoided doing any cardio on treadmills because of my IT band issue but this seems to be my answer. I love these.
I have always thought the same thing. Not that I wanted it all the bells and whistles (more stuff to break), but the Bowflex we just got has a 10 inch tablet built in to watch movies, bluetooth to work with applications like Zwift, stream your movies, videos where you can run through different cities, incline/decline, etc. But yeah, all that I mentioned and more- $1699. So I also struggle to understand how something that is 80 percent the same, minus possibly some really high quality bearings on the manual models and a beefy belt- costs almost 2x as much. And the most expensive part of most treadmills- the motor- is not needed.
@@Skygooose I love running outside, but in the midwest it's not always possible. Maybe you technically can, but it can be extremely dangerous certain times of year.
@@kevinmach730 Chiming in from the Canadian Rockies where there’s snow or ice or avalanches on the high alpine mountain trails ten months of the year ... and I run outdoors year round unless the temps dip below -40°F. When it’s bitterly cold I run the logging roads. I keep my truck running with the heat blasting. I run several hundred yards away from the truck, turn around and run back to the truck, jump in and warm up, move my truck down the road a few hundred yards, and repeat. It can be done. Canadian girls are tough. 💪🏻
Lol... Yeah if you don't understand how much stuff costs. The cost goes into the run feel in these. Run feel on treadmills is awful that's why people don't like it. Running on these feels great for a lot of people there hate treadmills. And 3 grand isn't that much especially in today's world lol. And running outside is cool if you're in a nice area...
I have the assault air runner. it is a quality machine. I love it so much- it adjusts to your speed and feels so natural after a while. I have it in front of a tv and will just zone out on my favorite show and get a few miles in. it is expensive- but with the rising gym prices and gyms being closed these past two years- its value become more apparent
I've had the assault runner pro for about a month now and it was absolutely worth $3k. It's soooo quiet and there's minimal thumping, so it saves me some trouble with the gf trying to sleep and the downstairs neighbors. Also I'm a bodybuilder and therefore not a very proficient runner - the curved surface saves my feet and joints and allows me to pretend like I'm an athlete by running pain free. 10/10 would buy again!
I have limited ceiling height in my basement. Can you please measure your deck and tell me the height on the front, center, and rear. I haven’t bought the Assault Runner Pro yet because I’m 6’3” and don’t know if I’ll have the ceiling height. TrueForm lists their trainer’s deck height at 14 inches in the center and 16 inches in the front. No rear measurement. Thank you.
@@ryannachtrab I have limited ceiling height in my basement. Can you please measure your deck and tell me the height on the front, center, and rear. I haven’t bought the Assault Runner Pro yet because I’m 6’3” and don’t know if I’ll have the ceiling height. TrueForm lists their trainer’s deck height at 14 inches in the center and 16 inches in the front. No rear measurement. Thank you.
I just left a comment/question about the AssaultFitness Air Runner. Can you tell me if it is in fact the same machine as the Assault Runner Pro, but just with a different name?
I would like to mention that Tru Grit gives a 25 percent discount for law enforcement. I purchased two of them for 3000. At the time they had free shipping also. The belt has a lifetime warranty as well. I love the magnetic resistance. It’s great for breaking up the running with what feels like an uphill walk or low resistance sled push. You won’t be able to run when it’s on full resistance. Their shipping left a little to be desired as far as securely packaging it. But their customer service was great and were very helpful and always answered the phone. Just my two cents. Thanks Coop.
Have the trueform runner thanks in part to your extensive reviews on it. Makes me smile every morning when going to the garage to workout. It's a beautiful machine, zero regrets.
@@GarageGymReviews hey coop, are you getting a noise on your assault runner elite? It sounds like the tread is rubbing against something and it squeaks.
Coop, bro I have to say thank you. I ordered an Assaultrunner and a Tonal thanks to you. I really appreciate what you do and I can’t be the only one 🙏🏾
As a runner who started doing crossfit a few years back, I was super excited when our box got one about 4 years back (Assult Runner). The deck was so stiff, it felt like running one something harder than concrete.. Also, it felt like it was constantly on an incline which aggravated by my high hamstring issues . It was more difficult than running outdoors, whereas most treadmills are the opposite. Not neccessarily a bad thing, but I learned pretty earlier on that this was not a machine I was going to be able to log a ton of miles on. It just wasn't comfortable for me. The idea of it forcing you an certain form sounds good in theory, but sometimes that works like trying to force yourself into a pair of shoes that don't fit you quite right, even though they are techically the right size for you. Definitely try out the model you're interested in a few tines minimum before you pull the trigger.
I've had the assault runner pro for about a month now and it was absolutely worth $3k. It's soooo quiet and there's minimal thumping, so it saves me some trouble with the gf trying to sleep and the downstairs neighbors. Also I'm a bodybuilder and therefore not a very proficient runner - the curved surface saves my feet and joints and allows me to pretend like I'm an athlete by running pain free. 10/10 would buy again!
@legionofb00m96 Absolutely. That treadmill is my baby and still works just as well as the day I bought it. My weight goes between 270-295 and I sometimes wear a weight vest or two while walking for probably 10-12 hours a week. Some of the best money I've ever spent in my entire life and I couldn't possibly be more happy.
Nice that you are going to do the motorized and non-motorized comparison down the road...IMO motorized are more practical for a home gym owner, especially when you can fold the bed up when done.
Because people are dumb enough to spend money on something they don't understand. People also refer to it as being "new money" which are the kind of people who go from $25k a year jobs to $100k+ and run head first into debt
I can see the curvature adding to costs as well as tracks over a belt, BUT that should at most offset the savings of not having a motor. Also non motorized belt treadmills have been around for a long time. They don't cost as much as similar powered treadmills.
Hey Coop what about running/walking backwards on these as an alternative to backwards sled pulls? Have heard it's bad to do that on motorized treadmills so might be good info for your manual treadmill reviews.
@@beggsjoe Must be nice to live in a neighborhood where the streets aren't full of feral pitbulls and lunatics shooting at each other every few days within audible range of his house.
Can you review the bells of steel blitz manual treadmill, it has magnetic resistance and wondering if you think that is an important feature to have, thanks!
I used to have a precor commercial one, Motor died out of warranty…replacement cost was prohibitive. Constantly had to realign the rollers because belt was slipping an drifting. Bought a assault runner pro…never looked back. Just grease it from time to time and change batteries. That’s all. Sure it doesent elevate, display is not fancy…but speed changes are instant. No feature on a motorized tread can beat that. If you do Intervalls, 30 sec on, 15 off for example, can’t do it with a motorized one. No fiddling with speed buttons, just running. Almost like outside.
If you time it right Assult fitness offers the Assault runner pro for 3k and they throw in the Assault Airbike pro for free! I ordered it I believe last year for black friday, but the previous year they had offered this for new years. I already had a Echo Bike so I sold the AirBike, so I ended up paying 2200 bucks for a brand new Air runner, which to me was justifyable in my opinion. It's really cool to do short sprints on these, and I certainly feel my hamstrings working while running for longer durations. I'm as average as an average Joe can be, so I'm not some fitness buff...hell I'm like 20% body fat, but I use this thing a lot more than my rower, or echo bike. When I'm feeling lazy AF or tired, I just hop on and start walking, then get warmed up and do a short 30min jog. It's worth it folks, it really is.
It's like you're a fly on wall in home gym. Have been researching and heavily debating between AssaultRunner or motorized. Wifey does long distance running and won this year. Picked up the Nordictrack 1750 (fantastic so far) but I refuse to close the 4 tabs with my wants. Will keep them open until next years big purchase! Good informative vid.
Glad I'm not the only one put off by the prices on these. I don't doubt that they're quality built machines, but 4 grand for an AR Elite? And it only has a basic console? Half the price gets me a Cadillac, near commercial grade home treadmill with a nice touch screen, controls, and loads of bells and whistles.
I think people really overestimate the cost of a motor. The build quality is obviously better on the curved mills. The lack of a sub-$80 motor isn’t going to offset the cost of heavier steel, ball bearings, etc.
Coop, just a suggestion. When you say what’s good for most people, I don’t think you are taking most into account. I’m in pretty good shape for a 65 year old and have used both non and motorized treadmills. There is no doubt for us older folks a manual treadmill is very hard to use. Maybe you think your demographic is only young people but I think you may be wrong and should expand your picks to perhaps older age groups also. Also, when you say motorized require more repairs, in general you are right, when in a commercial gym. But if it’s in a home gym, single use as you state, a good quality treadmill electric or not will last forever.
Motorized sucks for fixing which costs time and money. Ive helped manage a staff gym for a prison for 10 years. Recently stepped away to concentrate on my home gym. 2nd purchase was a curved treadmill. Love it. Hands down best money I've spent for cardio. It's harder which is great for time restraint workouts. Longevity is so much more efficient for me.
Where can you go to actually try them Out looking to get one but would like to test them out first looking to work on sprinting you know that sled resistance feel
i bought a nice used electric mill for 300 bucks in 2021 and spent 400 for an elliptical machine. Most of the year I run outside, include doing HIIT, on a nice track which feels better than running on a mill. An elliptical machine is much kinder to your legs.
I work at woodway and these machines are built for greatness. Trust me i cant say what we use but trust me the reason they are so expensive is the stuff we put in them trust me your paying for the right price💪🏽🔥💯
Watching his other videos he seems to about that life, in his video talking about the remote coaching platform he shows his (admittedly modest) physique.
one last question: what about the heart rate zones? If I run at 5:30 per kilometer in ZONE 2 according to Garmin watches, will it be affected by the extra effort done on the curved treadmill? Will I jump up to ZONE 3 at that pace? and finally, as a runner, what do you prefer for long distance daily training, Motorized or Curved?
My gym has the assault pro runner! It’s the best equipment and thus far best runs I had! It’s 10x harder than your regular treadmill or running outside. Definitely worth buying!
The cup holders are great for the remote to the tv your water bottle and your carbohydrates food if your distance running the cup holders are a must , and the elite design looks better than the pro in my opinion ! Paid $3,500 with free shipping tax included and have already put over 2,000 miles on it and absolutely love it ! Lifetime warranty on the Assault Elite treadmill also , I also pay $13 a month for the peloton app and use the assault elite to do pelotons for marathon training and love it ! The digital display is also amazing !!! Coop is the reason I bought mine ! Wait for Black Friday and Assault usually has insane deals , where they throw in a free bike with their treadmill purchase !!!
I have limited ceiling height in my basement. Can you please measure your deck and tell me the height on the front, center, and rear. I haven’t bought the Assault Runner Pro yet because I’m 6’3” and don’t know if I’ll have the ceiling height. TrueForm lists their trainer’s deck height at 14 inches in the center and 16 inches in the front. No rear measurement. Thank you.
Would love to see reviews for the incline manual treadmills. They're much cheaper ranging from $100 to several $100 for the nicer ones with resistance. These are much more budget friendly and there's hardly any reviews for them so it's almost impossible to see which ones are worth getting.
I have limited ceiling height in my basement. Can you please measure your deck and tell me the height on the front, center, and rear. I haven’t bought the Assault Runner Pro yet because I’m 6’3” and don’t know if I’ll have the ceiling height. TrueForm lists their trainer’s deck height at 14 inches in the center and 16 inches in the front. No rear measurement. Thank you.
Back in 1990s, my mom bought a similar treadmill (no belt power but not curved) .. I put it together for her and she couldn't seem to get it moving ... so I tried it .. I hiked bluffs with my digs, walked & ran up and down stairs many times daily.. and I could hardly get that track moving. And when I did settle into a rhythm, the shin pain came on fast (again, a flat running board). This questions: is a smaller, lighter weight person going to struggle more than a larger heavier person to push off and move the belt? And: obviously a senior might lose balance or footing on regular treadmill, or get distracted, and be thrown backward. But is a curved kinetic tractoon safer? If it provides better natural movement for feet, knees, hips ans can be used by weaker persons, or smaller and lighter weight, I can see where $2k might be well spent.
Signature Fitness looks like they decided to give True Grit a run for budget option. Hope a review comes out before more price increases hit so I can make a decision.
If people complain, "No motor, how can it cost too much?" First: most treadmills with motors are just bad quality. You have to oil it, adjust the belt, it is too loud, and you must be lucky if it lasts more than one year. The mechanical treadmill is mostly manually assembled. It is high quality, just works, and lasts much much longer.
Freaking amazing. They take all the expensive parts out of a treadmill, the motor, the incline, the monitor features. Then they charge twice as much or more for a basic mill as a fully decked out motorized mill would cost and the words 'bargain' and 'value' are even being used in the video? 'Racket' and 'scam' seem more fitting.
I was scrolling through the comments for reviews on the SB Fitness CT 400 manual treadmill also. I hope someone posts a review or video about them. Hopefully, Coop can do a detailed review on it too.
These things costing more than a motorized treadmill feels the same as mountain bikes costing more than dirt bikes- insane but apparently the world we live in
In addition to the Assault Runner Pro and Elite models, There's also the AssaultFitness "Air Runner". Does anyone here use that? It looks just like the Assault Runner Pro, and seems to be the same thing, but the name is different.
Have never used one of these. Are they better for running form or something, for reducing impact? Is it a better stride than a regular treadmill? Just wondering what prompted the development of these in the first place.
I run outdoor and on the track mostly. Tried these manual treadmill couple times and couldn't get use to it, especially if you land on your forefoot. The curve on the belt make me overstride when i pick up the pace.
You and your team truly have the best job in the world. If you're ever looking to get rid of stuff I will pay the shipping! Nothing large ships APO...Looking forward to the next video
Thanks for doing this video, a very timely post because I’ve been debating which motorized treadmill to get for a couple days now. GET OUT OF MY HEAD COOP.
Hi. Could you share your thoughts on the Sole ST90 slat treadmill? The Peleton Slat treadmills were all recalled for safety... So I am torn between the Sole ST90 and Assault Runner Pro... Yes, I realize one has a motor and the other not.
I am about to purchase a manual treadmill but I can not decide. It's between the Assault Runner Elite at $3499.00 or the Xebex Airplus Runner at $3899.00. The price and size difference are not an issue. My issue is function. I would like one that is good for running for distance but the added resistance features of the Xebex, resistance, sled workout etc is tempting. I also have the added issue that my 80yr old father will probably try to get on it and walk or possibly jog so safety for him is an issue. For this reason it seems the Xebex might be the better option with the added resistance keeping him from loosing control. However the one comparison I've been able to find gives the impression that the assault runner is much better for distance running. Would you have an opinion on this? Any opinions would be appreciated.
Coop: Trueform just dropped price on lower model to match the drop in Assault Runner Elite, which now is only $500 more than the pro. A) thoughts? Still sane pic as the video at these prices? B) if I can get a basically new true grit from a friend for half off am I getting a steal or throwing away a grand that should go towards one of the better ones? Kind of bothered it doesn’t switch to meters but can use my brain to calculate. Thanks!
I plan on making a diy curved tread mill but the one thing i cant seem to figure out is what is keeping the tread in that curve shape. how isnt the weight of the rest of the tread pulling it tight on the top.
is there much difference in sound between any? Also curious if differences in surface reduce overall sound output like Trueforms options of turf, rubber, track, etc
I did not know there were non motorized ones I was wandering why it could not exist (and in fact they exist) but I am surprised by their prices I would have thought that they would be much cheaper than motorised treadmills but obviously that's not the case for all models. I'll continue running on the spot in my kichen to warm up and then run outside 😅
I tried one of these today for the first time. It took a couple of minutes to get used to but, oh man, I'm in love with these. Just walking on one of these got my heart pumping and the sweat going way more than walking on a standard treadmill. Also, after about a half hour, I get some tightness in my IT band just walking on a standard treadmill but felt fine on one of these. I've avoided doing any cardio on treadmills because of my IT band issue but this seems to be my answer. I love these.
For something without a motor, it blows my mind that ANY of these cost more than $1000. I just don't see the value and would feel ripped off.
I have always thought the same thing. Not that I wanted it all the bells and whistles (more stuff to break), but the Bowflex we just got has a 10 inch tablet built in to watch movies, bluetooth to work with applications like Zwift, stream your movies, videos where you can run through different cities, incline/decline, etc. But yeah, all that I mentioned and more- $1699. So I also struggle to understand how something that is 80 percent the same, minus possibly some really high quality bearings on the manual models and a beefy belt- costs almost 2x as much. And the most expensive part of most treadmills- the motor- is not needed.
Crazier when you can just go outside and run.
@@Skygooose I love running outside, but in the midwest it's not always possible. Maybe you technically can, but it can be extremely dangerous certain times of year.
@@kevinmach730 Chiming in from the Canadian Rockies where there’s snow or ice or avalanches on the high alpine mountain trails ten months of the year ... and I run outdoors year round unless the temps dip below -40°F.
When it’s bitterly cold I run the logging roads. I keep my truck running with the heat blasting. I run several hundred yards away from the truck, turn around and run back to the truck, jump in and warm up, move my truck down the road a few hundred yards, and repeat.
It can be done. Canadian girls are tough. 💪🏻
Lol... Yeah if you don't understand how much stuff costs. The cost goes into the run feel in these.
Run feel on treadmills is awful that's why people don't like it. Running on these feels great for a lot of people there hate treadmills.
And 3 grand isn't that much especially in today's world lol.
And running outside is cool if you're in a nice area...
I have the assault air runner. it is a quality machine. I love it so much- it adjusts to your speed and feels so natural after a while. I have it in front of a tv and will just zone out on my favorite show and get a few miles in. it is expensive- but with the rising gym prices and gyms being closed these past two years- its value become more apparent
I've had the assault runner pro for about a month now and it was absolutely worth $3k. It's soooo quiet and there's minimal thumping, so it saves me some trouble with the gf trying to sleep and the downstairs neighbors. Also I'm a bodybuilder and therefore not a very proficient runner - the curved surface saves my feet and joints and allows me to pretend like I'm an athlete by running pain free. 10/10 would buy again!
a machine requires a power/energy source to run it, therefore, your the machine in this situation lol
I have limited ceiling height in my basement. Can you please measure your deck and tell me the height on the front, center, and rear. I haven’t bought the Assault Runner Pro yet because I’m 6’3” and don’t know if I’ll have the ceiling height. TrueForm lists their trainer’s deck height at 14 inches in the center and 16 inches in the front. No rear measurement. Thank you.
@@ryannachtrab I have limited ceiling height in my basement. Can you please measure your deck and tell me the height on the front, center, and rear. I haven’t bought the Assault Runner Pro yet because I’m 6’3” and don’t know if I’ll have the ceiling height. TrueForm lists their trainer’s deck height at 14 inches in the center and 16 inches in the front. No rear measurement. Thank you.
I just left a comment/question about the AssaultFitness Air Runner. Can you tell me if it is in fact the same machine as the Assault Runner Pro, but just with a different name?
I would like to mention that Tru Grit gives a 25 percent discount for law enforcement. I purchased two of them for 3000. At the time they had free shipping also. The belt has a lifetime warranty as well. I love the magnetic resistance. It’s great for breaking up the running with what feels like an uphill walk or low resistance sled push. You won’t be able to run when it’s on full resistance. Their shipping left a little to be desired as far as securely packaging it. But their customer service was great and were very helpful and always answered the phone. Just my two cents. Thanks Coop.
I have had 3 Woodway Curve Trainers in my fitness studio for the past 6 years. Definitely commercial quality and well worth the money.
Have the trueform runner thanks in part to your extensive reviews on it. Makes me smile every morning when going to the garage to workout. It's a beautiful machine, zero regrets.
Installed my Truform runner yesterday. Bought before the $900 price increase for 2022 and am so happy. It is wonderful.
Amazing treadmills. I have one at my walking desk and one in the garage. They’re tanks and so smooth.
@@GarageGymReviews hey coop, are you getting a noise on your assault runner elite? It sounds like the tread is rubbing against something and it squeaks.
Coop, bro I have to say thank you. I ordered an Assaultrunner and a Tonal thanks to you. I really appreciate what you do and I can’t be the only one 🙏🏾
As a runner who started doing crossfit a few years back, I was super excited when our box got one about 4 years back (Assult Runner). The deck was so stiff, it felt like running one something harder than concrete.. Also, it felt like it was constantly on an incline which aggravated by my high hamstring issues . It was more difficult than running outdoors, whereas most treadmills are the opposite. Not neccessarily a bad thing, but I learned pretty earlier on that this was not a machine I was going to be able to log a ton of miles on. It just wasn't comfortable for me. The idea of it forcing you an certain form sounds good in theory, but sometimes that works like trying to force yourself into a pair of shoes that don't fit you quite right, even though they are techically the right size for you. Definitely try out the model you're interested in a few tines minimum before you pull the trigger.
I've had the assault runner pro for about a month now and it was absolutely worth $3k. It's soooo quiet and there's minimal thumping, so it saves me some trouble with the gf trying to sleep and the downstairs neighbors. Also I'm a bodybuilder and therefore not a very proficient runner - the curved surface saves my feet and joints and allows me to pretend like I'm an athlete by running pain free. 10/10 would buy again!
Are you still liking the assault runner pro? I hopped on an elite for a couple minutes and now I really want to get a manual tread.
@legionofb00m96 Absolutely. That treadmill is my baby and still works just as well as the day I bought it. My weight goes between 270-295 and I sometimes wear a weight vest or two while walking for probably 10-12 hours a week. Some of the best money I've ever spent in my entire life and I couldn't possibly be more happy.
Nice that you are going to do the motorized and non-motorized comparison down the road...IMO motorized are more practical for a home gym owner, especially when you can fold the bed up when done.
Can someone explain why a treadmill without a motor costs 3-5x the price of one with a motor? Seems back asswards to me
Because people are dumb enough to spend money on something they don't understand. People also refer to it as being "new money" which are the kind of people who go from $25k a year jobs to $100k+ and run head first into debt
I can see the curvature adding to costs as well as tracks over a belt, BUT that should at most offset the savings of not having a motor. Also non motorized belt treadmills have been around for a long time. They don't cost as much as similar powered treadmills.
Motors are like $100. Those slats moving on ball bearings on a heavy welded frame cost a lot more to manufacture.
Harder to manufacture something that is smooth without a motor.
Hey Coop what about running/walking backwards on these as an alternative to backwards sled pulls? Have heard it's bad to do that on motorized treadmills so might be good info for your manual treadmill reviews.
I’d love to hear his take on this too!
Coop: "So so cheap"
The price: 3x the amount I'm willing to pay.
Guess I'll run outside, you know, for free.
Must be nice to live in a climate where the side walk isn’t covered in ice and snow 😩
@@beggsjoe Must be nice to live in a neighborhood where the streets aren't full of feral pitbulls and lunatics shooting at each other every few days within audible range of his house.
Assuming you don’t have children
Can you review the bells of steel blitz manual treadmill, it has magnetic resistance and wondering if you think that is an important feature to have, thanks!
Have you done a review for Aussie pro??
I used to have a precor commercial one, Motor died out of warranty…replacement cost was prohibitive. Constantly had to realign the rollers because belt was slipping an drifting. Bought a assault runner pro…never looked back. Just grease it from time to time and change batteries. That’s all. Sure it doesent elevate, display is not fancy…but speed changes are instant. No feature on a motorized tread can beat that. If you do Intervalls, 30 sec on, 15 off for example, can’t do it with a motorized one. No fiddling with speed buttons, just running. Almost like outside.
If you time it right Assult fitness offers the Assault runner pro for 3k and they throw in the Assault Airbike pro for free! I ordered it I believe last year for black friday, but the previous year they had offered this for new years. I already had a Echo Bike so I sold the AirBike, so I ended up paying 2200 bucks for a brand new Air runner, which to me was justifyable in my opinion. It's really cool to do short sprints on these, and I certainly feel my hamstrings working while running for longer durations. I'm as average as an average Joe can be, so I'm not some fitness buff...hell I'm like 20% body fat, but I use this thing a lot more than my rower, or echo bike. When I'm feeling lazy AF or tired, I just hop on and start walking, then get warmed up and do a short 30min jog. It's worth it folks, it really is.
Glad to see this video. I got a trueform trainer for $2,995 because your review on it and wanted to see something that compared all brands
i really wanna try one of these but fml 3k for a treadmill is NOT in my budget. Youd think having no motor would mean theyd be cheaper
It's like you're a fly on wall in home gym. Have been researching and heavily debating between AssaultRunner or motorized. Wifey does long distance running and won this year. Picked up the Nordictrack 1750 (fantastic so far) but I refuse to close the 4 tabs with my wants. Will keep them open until next years big purchase! Good informative vid.
Feels a bit ridiculous that these non-motorized devices cost more than motorized ones.
Absolutely ridiculous not a bit. No reason why they should be so expensive.
Glad I'm not the only one put off by the prices on these. I don't doubt that they're quality built machines, but 4 grand for an AR Elite? And it only has a basic console? Half the price gets me a Cadillac, near commercial grade home treadmill with a nice touch screen, controls, and loads of bells and whistles.
I think people really overestimate the cost of a motor. The build quality is obviously better on the curved mills. The lack of a sub-$80 motor isn’t going to offset the cost of heavier steel, ball bearings, etc.
Hey Coop, what style treadmill (traditional vs manual) do you prefer if planning on walking more than running ?
Can you do an update on this video?
Coop, just a suggestion. When you say what’s good for most people, I don’t think you are taking most into account. I’m in pretty good shape for a 65 year old and have used both non and motorized treadmills. There is no doubt for us older folks a manual treadmill is very hard to use. Maybe you think your demographic is only young people but I think you may be wrong and should expand your picks to perhaps older age groups also. Also, when you say motorized require more repairs, in general you are right, when in a commercial gym. But if it’s in a home gym, single use as you state, a good quality treadmill electric or not will last forever.
I've had the trueform runner for a year and I've lost a lot of weight. It is so much more difficult to sprint on it compared to the Woodway curve.
I have the trueform trainer and I love it. I tried them all this one is the absolute best.
Motorized sucks for fixing which costs time and money. Ive helped manage a staff gym for a prison for 10 years. Recently stepped away to concentrate on my home gym. 2nd purchase was a curved treadmill. Love it. Hands down
best money I've spent for cardio.
It's harder which is great for time restraint workouts. Longevity is so much more efficient for me.
Where can you go to actually try them
Out looking to get one but would like to test them out first looking to work on sprinting you know that sled resistance feel
i bought a nice used electric mill for 300 bucks in 2021 and spent 400 for an elliptical machine. Most of the year I run outside, include doing HIIT, on a nice track which feels better than running on a mill. An elliptical machine is much kinder to your legs.
I work at woodway and these machines are built for greatness. Trust me i cant say what we use but trust me the reason they are so expensive is the stuff we put in them trust me your paying for the right price💪🏽🔥💯
I was looking at the rogue/woodway model and people were complaining about the 3-2-1 start. Is that still accurate or have they been updated?
Coop is smart to make this a business…all his gym equipment purchases are now deductible (against business earnings). Wife won’t complain 😭
I’m sure at this point he even has a business expense account so he can buy whatever he wants
Dammit that is brilliant
Pretty sure that has been the case for a few years now. Previously he owned a gym too. I guess the pandemic closed the gym or he sold out.
Watching his other videos he seems to about that life, in his video talking about the remote coaching platform he shows his (admittedly modest) physique.
@MouthPunch people have different fitness goals
Can you walk on these or do you have to run?
I used to love running on the curve. Haven’t done it in a couple years but it was always a great workout.
one last question: what about the heart rate zones? If I run at 5:30 per kilometer in ZONE 2 according to Garmin watches, will it be affected by the extra effort done on the curved treadmill? Will I jump up to ZONE 3 at that pace? and finally, as a runner, what do you prefer for long distance daily training, Motorized or Curved?
My gym has the assault pro runner! It’s the best equipment and thus far best runs I had! It’s 10x harder than your regular treadmill or running outside. Definitely worth buying!
What about Aussie pro?
This video came at the perfect time! We're planning out our home gym and I love the manual treadmill style.
What do we know about the Aussie Pro Runner?
Could you please review strength shops bumper plates. 👍
Are they loud? Which is quitest?
The cup holders are great for the remote to the tv your water bottle and your carbohydrates food if your distance running the cup holders are a must , and the elite design looks better than the pro in my opinion ! Paid $3,500 with free shipping tax included and have already put over 2,000 miles on it and absolutely love it ! Lifetime warranty on the Assault Elite treadmill also , I also pay $13 a month for the peloton app and use the assault elite to do pelotons for marathon training and love it ! The digital display is also amazing !!! Coop is the reason I bought mine ! Wait for Black Friday and Assault usually has insane deals , where they throw in a free bike with their treadmill purchase !!!
Hey jfox is there really deals for Black Friday
I love my assault runner PRO, definitely worth the money.
I have limited ceiling height in my basement. Can you please measure your deck and tell me the height on the front, center, and rear. I haven’t bought the Assault Runner Pro yet because I’m 6’3” and don’t know if I’ll have the ceiling height. TrueForm lists their trainer’s deck height at 14 inches in the center and 16 inches in the front. No rear measurement. Thank you.
i cannot run but can walk and do so for an hour daily. What is your non motorized treadmill recommendation? thanks new subscriber!
Any updates over the past 2 years since you did this review??
Would love to see reviews for the incline manual treadmills. They're much cheaper ranging from $100 to several $100 for the nicer ones with resistance. These are much more budget friendly and there's hardly any reviews for them so it's almost impossible to see which ones are worth getting.
unfortunately since it has almost no reviews that probably means they arent worth it.
Coop is my go-to guy when it comes to getting gym info. Thanks man! 🤟🤟
Assault Runner all day! Love mine. These are definitely high end, especially since they're used in crossfit.
I have limited ceiling height in my basement. Can you please measure your deck and tell me the height on the front, center, and rear. I haven’t bought the Assault Runner Pro yet because I’m 6’3” and don’t know if I’ll have the ceiling height. TrueForm lists their trainer’s deck height at 14 inches in the center and 16 inches in the front. No rear measurement. Thank you.
Back in 1990s, my mom bought a similar treadmill (no belt power but not curved) .. I put it together for her and she couldn't seem to get it moving ... so I tried it .. I hiked bluffs with my digs, walked & ran up and down stairs many times daily.. and I could hardly get that track moving.
And when I did settle into a rhythm, the shin pain came on fast (again, a flat running board).
This questions: is a smaller, lighter weight person going to struggle more than a larger heavier person to push off and move the belt?
And: obviously a senior might lose balance or footing on regular treadmill, or get distracted, and be thrown backward. But is a curved kinetic tractoon safer?
If it provides better natural movement for feet, knees, hips ans can be used by weaker persons, or smaller and lighter weight, I can see where $2k might be well spent.
What do you think about the Woodway LTG rogue curve ?
Signature Fitness looks like they decided to give True Grit a run for budget option. Hope a review comes out before more price increases hit so I can make a decision.
Hey coop, have you heard of or used a ausie fitness pro? What’s your rec on this?
Second this. Hoping to demo one this weekend
Coop, can you review the Sunny option?
It’s $350 on Amazon.
Do you have any thoughts to hold out for the Rep non motorized treadmill?
00:00 Lo-CO!
which is best for walking around 3mph?
If people complain, "No motor, how can it cost too much?" First: most treadmills with motors are just bad quality. You have to oil it, adjust the belt, it is too loud, and you must be lucky if it lasts more than one year. The mechanical treadmill is mostly manually assembled. It is high quality, just works, and lasts much much longer.
I like the trueform and the assault but they don't have variable resistance. What would be the best curved treadmill that have adjustable resistance?
Are the woodway curve more expensive than the assualt air runner elite?
Freaking amazing. They take all the expensive parts out of a treadmill, the motor, the incline, the monitor features. Then they charge twice as much or more for a basic mill as a fully decked out motorized mill would cost and the words 'bargain' and 'value' are even being used in the video? 'Racket' and 'scam' seem more fitting.
Would have loved to hear opinions on the SB Fitness curved treadmills.
I was scrolling through the comments for reviews on the SB Fitness CT 400 manual treadmill also. I hope someone posts a review or video about them. Hopefully, Coop can do a detailed review on it too.
What’re does Cascade Iltra fall in line with theses? Sold by Johnson Fitness???
These things costing more than a motorized treadmill feels the same as mountain bikes costing more than dirt bikes- insane but apparently the world we live in
Is concept 2 looking to do one of these. Would be sick to complement their range with one of these machines.
If they can find a way to use that fly wheel I’m sure they would… and I would buy it immediately
No review on the Aussie Pro? Competitive pricing, sled option bars…what the?
Need a review on the Aussie Pro Runner
Hey coop, your a beast, thanks for what you do💪💪💪
Which one has the lowest step up height? Most are tight fits for low ceiling basements/rooms.
In addition to the Assault Runner Pro and Elite models, There's also the AssaultFitness "Air Runner". Does anyone here use that? It looks just like the Assault Runner Pro, and seems to be the same thing, but the name is different.
I wish Titan would come out with a sub 1000 model
Have never used one of these. Are they better for running form or something, for reducing impact? Is it a better stride than a regular treadmill? Just wondering what prompted the development of these in the first place.
You can sprint on them full tilt as well as walk backwards. Also not needing to be connected to a power socket is a plus.
They’re more difficult than motorized since you have to propel it making it a harder workout. Basically why CrossFit made them popular
I run outdoor and on the track mostly. Tried these manual treadmill couple times and couldn't get use to it, especially if you land on your forefoot. The curve on the belt make me overstride when i pick up the pace.
Aussie vs assault runner?
You and your team truly have the best job in the world. If you're ever looking to get rid of stuff I will pay the shipping! Nothing large ships APO...Looking forward to the next video
Love my Woodway Curve, it’s built like a tank!
Thanks for doing this video, a very timely post because I’ve been debating which motorized treadmill to get for a couple days now. GET OUT OF MY HEAD COOP.
Is there a link to the assault runner, NOT the elite review? Thanks 🙏🏻
When can we expect the motorized treadmill video?
Do you have any reviews on non-motorized BACKWARD walking treadmills
Hi. Could you share your thoughts on the Sole ST90 slat treadmill? The Peleton Slat treadmills were all recalled for safety... So I am torn between the Sole ST90 and Assault Runner Pro... Yes, I realize one has a motor and the other not.
Is this overkill if I am walking only?
Thanks for the nuances!
Full review on the xebex runner? I'm considering it for the resistance level to to sled style training
how about a review of the jacob's ladder?
Review for rogue Woodway?
Signature Fitness SF-S2 Sprint Demon? I know it is not on the list, but it is one listed on amazon is it worth it?
Great informative video. Needed this about 6 months ago 😂 but I still enjoyed the video
Can you tell me if there is a way to get running data from the assault runner to sync to an iPhone? Does the app do that?
I am about to purchase a manual treadmill but I can not decide. It's between the Assault Runner Elite at $3499.00 or the Xebex Airplus Runner at $3899.00. The price and size difference are not an issue. My issue is function. I would like one that is good for running for distance but the added resistance features of the Xebex, resistance, sled workout etc is tempting. I also have the added issue that my 80yr old father will probably try to get on it and walk or possibly jog so safety for him is an issue. For this reason it seems the Xebex might be the better option with the added resistance keeping him from loosing control. However the one comparison I've been able to find gives the impression that the assault runner is much better for distance running. Would you have an opinion on this? Any opinions would be appreciated.
I guess the only manuel treadmill i ran on the asdault airrunner pro is actually the best one.
Coop: Trueform just dropped price on lower model to match the drop in Assault Runner Elite, which now is only $500 more than the pro. A) thoughts? Still sane pic as the video at these prices? B) if I can get a basically new true grit from a friend for half off am I getting a steal or throwing away a grand that should go towards one of the better ones? Kind of bothered it doesn’t switch to meters but can use my brain to calculate. Thanks!
No sprintbok?
What I need to know about every option is, does it hold my iPad in a position that allows me to read.
Can you review any stairmaster style machine please and thank you
Jacob's Ladder review?
I plan on making a diy curved tread mill but the one thing i cant seem to figure out is what is keeping the tread in that curve shape. how isnt the weight of the rest of the tread pulling it tight on the top.
Solid review. Would have liked to have seen more time on Techno Gym and Woodway though.
is there much difference in sound between any? Also curious if differences in surface reduce overall sound output like Trueforms options of turf, rubber, track, etc
I did not know there were non motorized ones I was wandering why it could not exist (and in fact they exist) but I am surprised by their prices I would have thought that they would be much cheaper than motorised treadmills but obviously that's not the case for all models. I'll continue running on the spot in my kichen to warm up and then run outside 😅
can i use any of them as an under desk treadmill, walking desk, could i just leave the top part?
have you done any reviews on normal treadmills??