🤷‍♂️ Too Harsh or Fair? - What Should be the Expectation for Rookies in Supercross??

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  • @heffegrande
    @heffegrande 7 місяців тому +5

    I dont understand why people hate on great riders. Ive been a fan of motocross since 1978 and watched alot of great riders over the years and if you can't appreciate the talent it takes to ride one these bikes you should take your hate to some other sport we don't need you.

  • @tonygee3284
    @tonygee3284 7 місяців тому +3

    good to see Ben on the show again

  • @lawrenceworth1839
    @lawrenceworth1839 7 місяців тому

    He’s faced so many adversities… amazing he was even able to get to this point. Having multiple Private prepped tracks track and endless funds.

    • @LetBrockBye
      @LetBrockBye 7 місяців тому +1

      Factory bikes since he started

  • @CoolcatAMA-Pro
    @CoolcatAMA-Pro 7 місяців тому +3

    Those people don't understand what it takes to ride Motocross especially at the top level Factor teams don't care where you come from they care about Winning no has enough money for these teams to ignore championships

  • @JimG1964
    @JimG1964 7 місяців тому

    Biggest advantage Haiden had was a knowledgeable circle around him to guide him that understands the sport. If you don't understand what it takes, you have no chance. You can't buy your way to being a great racer.

  • @xAndo14
    @xAndo14 7 місяців тому +1

    Bring back BT for another episode! Pleasee

  • @johnnyhotshoe1292
    @johnnyhotshoe1292 7 місяців тому +1

    Good one boys

  • @ScottAllenSparks
    @ScottAllenSparks 7 місяців тому +5

    Deegan haters crying over him will continue to amuse me for years to come lol

    • @donworryboudat
      @donworryboudat 7 місяців тому +4

      Mentally unstable grown men fangirling over a teenager will continue to amuse us all for years too, don't worry bout dat!

    • @BenWilson24
      @BenWilson24 7 місяців тому +1

      So tired of all the talk about all of the haters. He literally has one of the largest followings of all time... It's nothing more than the same exact it's-us-against-the-world marketing tactic that his dad used for one of the largest action sports brands of all time. There really aren't that many haters - just people tired of hearing about the haters

    • @donworryboudat
      @donworryboudat 7 місяців тому +1

      @@BenWilson24 did you really just say haiden deegan has one of the biggest followings of all time? Lmfao 😂😂

    • @BenWilson24
      @BenWilson24 7 місяців тому

      @@donworryboudat yes. Go look at his follower counts. Are they all just following him out of spite? Is roczen the only rider with more followers right now? He nearly doubles Jett. And roczen is a superstar. Supercross has been growing on top of that. Look at the lines for autographs at the races. Some of his teammates have been open about how overwhelming the fans are for him. Metal Mulisha would have had you believing they had nothing to buy haters too, but it was one of the biggest brands ever in fmx. It's just a marketing scheme

    • @donworryboudat
      @donworryboudat 7 місяців тому

      @@BenWilson24 there's alot of people in this world with alot more followers than haiden deegan. I swear you people are so delusional 😂 you should of said haiden has the biggest following in the moto world then I would of maybe agreed with you.

  • @troydimsdale2331
    @troydimsdale2331 7 місяців тому

    The expectations should be very limited. Every once in a while of freak will come along. We just need to sit back and enjoy it.

  • @LetBrockBye
    @LetBrockBye 7 місяців тому

    Haiden is a “ manufactured talent “, every sport has them. Doesn’t mean he’s not good, it’s just not natural. He’s had the best Training, the best tracks, Factory bikes all his life. You haven’t been around long enough if you can’t see that’s a factor. I’d much rather watch natural talent. James, Dogger, Bayle , Eli, Ken Jett, and now JuJu, Davies just to name a few

  • @parrey1985
    @parrey1985 7 місяців тому +2

    Eli's dad is a legend in mtb, so I'm guessing Eli is from money too.
    But no one ever talks shit about Eli.
    No one is talking shit about Evan Ferry

    • @discgolf2479
      @discgolf2479 7 місяців тому

      Only because deegan has been on camera since a young lad,

    • @Htmdlclbcy
      @Htmdlclbcy 7 місяців тому +3

      @@discgolf2479the only reason deegan got so much attention is because he waxed everybody by like 30 seconds every amateur race☠️people act like u can just hop on UA-cam and be viral. He’s only viral bc he’s special

    • @discgolf2479
      @discgolf2479 7 місяців тому

      I only said that because hes on YT, he gets more shit talked about him than the other 2 mentioned above,
      Also I would argue, THE BACKFLIP AT LIKE 7 YEARS OLD WAS THE THING THAT REALLY STARTED HIS VIRAL ABILITY,

    • @unstoppableplayz6948
      @unstoppableplayz6948 7 місяців тому +1

      Eli also is humble AF, and displays class on and off the track.
      That's worth something to people who have a clue. Apples and oranges.
      Deegans got skills though ..cant be denied.
      The whole package though,?...not yet, but he is capable of being one of the greats.

    • @Htmdlclbcy
      @Htmdlclbcy 7 місяців тому

      @@unstoppableplayz6948 Eli is fucking boring mate, not a class act. Dudes is a fucking weirdo, quite kids vibes as a 30 year old man 🙄🫨

  • @DGWShortScaleGuitar
    @DGWShortScaleGuitar 7 місяців тому +2

    To some extent, everyone hates a winner. It's easy...

    • @moochiezpitt
      @moochiezpitt 7 місяців тому

      I only hate when the same person keeps winning. It's boring unless you're a fanboy. That makes them false fans of racing. Now hating someone cuz they are good is trash.

    • @georgelynch6139
      @georgelynch6139 7 місяців тому

      He only won 1 main and was gifted one main so technically he is a “winner” but there’s 2 other “winners” who are beating him in points, 3rd place is not “winning”

    • @tankeater
      @tankeater 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@georgelynch6139 a win is a win... And how is Mcadoo a "winner" if he only has 1 win, like you blindly say Deegan has? Contradiction, is the best way to show your intelligence.

  • @rayr3855
    @rayr3855 7 місяців тому +1

    Nicely Done! Haiden will do very well. He has more followers on social media than most now at 1.5 million on IG. When you are doing shit right like marketing, you are super fast and have the grit/determination to win its going to piss some off because they are thinking its the money that makes him fast which is so false and if some raced they know what I mean. Money is great, but grit/determination you can't buy and Haiden just like Brian has solid work ethic on/off the track. That is reality.

    • @georgelynch6139
      @georgelynch6139 7 місяців тому

      Papa won 1 race then quit to become a novelty motorcycle circus clown, gotta admit the bad Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree 🇺🇸🤦‍♂️

    • @rayr3855
      @rayr3855 7 місяців тому

      @@georgelynch6139 Appears you must have StageIV Deegan Derangement Syndrome. ?

    • @georgelynch6139
      @georgelynch6139 7 місяців тому

      @@rayr3855 How many mains did Daddy win before he gave up and became a novelty freestyle attraction?

  • @greenlaner
    @greenlaner 7 місяців тому

    Too many staying in the 250s for this to happen anymore, look at Jordon Smith, Max Anstie for example

  • @Mikemorgan..22
    @Mikemorgan..22 7 місяців тому +2

    Yes Deegan has put the work in. But he has been fortunate to have everything given to him on a platter to use it!

    • @tankeater
      @tankeater 7 місяців тому +2

      You say he put the work in, just to contradict yourself and say he's had everything given to him??? 🤦‍♂️👍

    • @robotsfrom
      @robotsfrom 7 місяців тому

      @@tankeater both can be true. best bikes, best trainers, best facilities are no good if you don't work

  • @DrumGPearl
    @DrumGPearl 7 місяців тому

    I HAVE to call BS on this one.
    Haiden, grew up riding real MX/SX tracks in his back yard every single day. He never had the struggle that every other kid has had. He got to ride every day for over a year on the Star Racing Yamaha track with the best riders in the world before he ever did a SX Futures race. Tell me another rider that has had the chance to do that? I’ll wait. To say none of that matters is pure ignorance. Take away all Brian’s money, all the tracks in his back yard and Haiden has to make it like everyone else, we wouldn’t have seen him race Pro yet. That’s fact, not fiction. 😉

  • @chiefaroonie9448
    @chiefaroonie9448 7 місяців тому +2

    We have not seen anyone send it like deegan since Stewart Ricky or j law

    • @Cyogenic
      @Cyogenic 7 місяців тому +2

      Yall really gotta stop overrating J law😂

    • @chrisbuehler6868
      @chrisbuehler6868 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Cyogenic for real.

  • @Surfer_Jay
    @Surfer_Jay 7 місяців тому +1

    Yes, to become one of the best, you need to put in the work & sacrifice etc etc etc....
    However, without a HUGE level of support from every angle, no amount of talent will EVER make it ANYWHERE!
    HD has been silver spooned into this sport, but he also has a great deal of talent which will see him go places. A little TOO hyped right now though...

  • @brianmitchell2541
    @brianmitchell2541 7 місяців тому

    Can you still call him a rookie it’s his second year not as experienced as most but a rookie

  • @willfrank7022
    @willfrank7022 7 місяців тому

    Deegan is not a Rookie

  • @pedrogunner9750
    @pedrogunner9750 7 місяців тому

    Haiden is fast, but he has been given the best bikes, best teams etc. that makes a difference. How many kids who were just as dedicated as Deegan who didn’t have the financial backing? I’m tired of everyone blowing this kid who has ZERO humility or gratitude and he hasn’t performed this year like so many of you said he would. Saying that his dad’s connections and money didn’t change anything is ridiculous. Yes he’s fast, yes he’s a hard worker, disciplined etc. he better be, he was born into all of that! It’s different, but I was born into a heavy equipment family so of course I should be good at and I definitely have a leg up on the people who want to run equipment. They have a much harder time getting into the field and getting the experience so it being born into does count. I’m tired of everyone saying it doesn’t. I don’t like Haiden because he doesn’t know what humility and gratitude is. I think those traits are extremely important for men to have.

  • @jakerivets2249
    @jakerivets2249 7 місяців тому

    If money is so little of an advantage, why are literally all of the riders on the gates sons of wealthy men? You don't see sons of ditch diggers out there, for a reason. It's hilarious to hear anyone argue that money isn't a huge part of a rider's success in this sport, while simultaneously whining about the high cost of racing. Yes, you have to put your running shoes on and do the work. What Deegan has never done is do that after working a job for 8 hours beforehand. Or even 1 hour beforehand. Because he's the son of a wealthy man, and that matters. It's idiotic cope to think that it doesn't.

  • @stevendoughan4114
    @stevendoughan4114 7 місяців тому

    They have to do jew jitsooii

  • @georgelynch6139
    @georgelynch6139 7 місяців тому +14

    So much hype for someone that’s only won one race straight up and one gifted, he’s barely in 3rd by one point. Why don’t you concentrate on the 2 better riders ahead of him?

    • @BraydonJoslin22
      @BraydonJoslin22 7 місяців тому +2

      agree.

    • @therealjd1503
      @therealjd1503 7 місяців тому +11

      Because whether you like it or not Deegan brings a lot of attention to the sport. It’s almost like a celebrity coming to supercross and he is definitely in the top tier of racing. There are guys that race a whole career and never win. Don’t hate just enjoy, our sport is absolutely epic right now.

    • @preezuswalks1615
      @preezuswalks1615 7 місяців тому +25

      Buddy he has 2 sx race wins out of 6 and got fucked in 2 of them. Has a triple crown race win in one of them as well. also won a shit ton outdoors his rookie year and won smx his rookie year. He woulda won outdoor title last year too if they didn’t red flag budds creek and if his engine didn’t fail at unadilla. The kids good as fuck he got fucked 2 races this year out of 6…. and won the other 2.. get a grip. The kid is Jett’s future arch rival. Y’all can keep pretending like he’s not special. But he most def is. Y’all hatin for what? If hammaker was in west, Haiden would have the points lead simple as that.

    • @skys9741
      @skys9741 7 місяців тому +1

      @georgelynch6139
      2 options
      Become a Jett fan if you aren’t already
      Or
      Come back to the sport in 8-10 years because it’s going to be a lot of Jett and Deegan winning.

    • @josephtiner9390
      @josephtiner9390 7 місяців тому +3

      He’s already a champion… go off tho

  • @refns2005
    @refns2005 7 місяців тому

    This is so tone deaf to what it actually takes to compete. Does Deegan have a racer spirit 100% yes and he put that work in. Could he have done it with out his dads funding and connections? Statistically no.