5150 iii evh stealth 100 vs diezel hagen 1st impressions

video play through after just getting these and trying for the same time no pedals at all through the mesa cab and added a gate only when I switched to the laboga cabs.
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[@soundstorm9508]

Damn it why is that Hagan so disgustingly heavy. This clip has me scouring the internet trying to find one on the used market, no luck so far. Thanks for the demo.

[@josephbutler148]

I liked my boosted recto just as much so I sold the hagen. I have a Herbert mk3 on order can't wait to see how it goes.

[@soundstorm9508]

@@josephbutler148 how are the mid gain tones on the Hagen?

[@josephbutler148]

@@soundstorm9508 better than the high gain modern tones. On par with the real deals orange and marshall etc

[@soundstorm9508]

@@josephbutler148 that's saying a lot, because these tones are nasty! I haven't heard many thorough demos of the Hagen but I'm really surprised to hear it can do classic tones well, honestly.

[@firststep7750]

I appreciate this effort. It's difficult to get access to Diezel amps and in particular the Hagen (as you've said). Also the differences are hard to discern as youtube compresses sound. Which one did you end up preferring? I've read that Diezel amps stiff in feel? Does the EVH feel stiff? I recently purchased a BE100D and I love the way that amp feels under the fingers - it has a natural feeling compression (squishy) and hence it's easy to play, not stiff at all. To off-set the high gain rock amp purchase, I'm after a modern sounding amp for death-metal and I was considering a Hagen, EVH Stealth or KSR Gemini 100 (if for nothing else than all the tone shaping options). Cheers
Edit: The Hagen sounds very loose in the lows when compared to the EVH.

[@josephbutler148]

I also have a ksr juno and an orthos (pretty much gemini with no midi) i would go juno if u go ksr.
The stealth sounds good tight focussed and crushing straight off the bat however after spending some time with the hagen I have got it to sounds not the same but as good just different. The hagen is looser feeling like the Einstein and Herbert. the dmoll and vh4 / vh2 are the stiff ones. If u like stiff get dmoll otherwise get hagen. If u like tight focussed and crushing get the stealth.

[@firststep7750]

@@josephbutler148 Thanks for the detailed response. I think the stealth is more my flavour. How does the Juno differ to the Orthos? Are the difference nuanced or significant? Cheers.