All The Costs So Far! Porsche 928 Revival - Part 9
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- Опубліковано 24 бер 2023
- Time for a round up then. You’ve watched the whole series on fixing this car up to a reasonable standard. I have paid someone to do the work rather than do it myself so what has it all cost?
So pleased with the work that Matt at Collector Car Services has done on my car. I have driven it to Florida and back and it didn’t miss a beat. So this video is all about answering the question that we originally asked at the beginning of the series: can you buy a neglected Porsche 928 and refresh it so that it is safe and operational without breaking the bank? Is this a real possibility and an option for you?
I am going to break down all the parts and labor and add them to the cost of the car so you guys can see what a car repaired to a good standard will set you back! I think you’ll be surprised! A LOT of people told me not to do this. Perhaps they were right! Too late now (for me at least)!
All written, researched and edited by me. You can download all my Porsche model guides at www.jayreadyoutube.com so go and take a look there, OK?
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My lottery win purchase. I’ve always loved the 928.
Having a driver that you don’t have to worry about is a great feeling. I don’t think you’ve overdone it. I also don’t think you should care, if you are enjoying it😊 I like old things made better, too.
I agree, Bobby!
Especially if they were made to last the 1st time!
The original flat disc wheels are beautiful. Please don't change them.
Absolutely! 🙏
Only change them to the telephone dials. One or the other!
The man cover wheels, are keepers.
I hate when owners change the wheels.
The 928, is quickly approaching a rich man's toy again.
Time does indeed, repeat itself .💙💯👍
Mito modulars look better
Amazing time capsule. Was my first dream car. Keep your period correct wheels.
Nice video, Jay. Thanks for the inside on what has been done and the costs of it all. I one did the maths on the maintenance on my 997.1 C4S and the total was eye watering. But, then again, a hobby always costs you money and the shear pleasure cannot be measured in numbers 😀
That’s how I’m thinking, Dag! Thanks for watching as ever!
Thank you for the detailed costs so far, it was very interesting! 👌
Hearing you run down those bills was a, bit painful! 😄 But I think you've taken this 928 to a good place. And I totally enjoyed the journey of bringing this beauty back to a good driving condition. I think you should do more road trips with this baby Sir Jay and enjoy it! 😎✌
Thanks Mohammad!
Wheels are fine and correct,you've safe proofed the engine,and cooling system,just use it sparingly on good days and fix what needs doing as and when,it's a very nice ride,and on the money 👌
Thank you!
Hey Jay, love the car. There is so much more that comes from bringing a car back to life. The enjoyment it brings to you offsets some of the costs incurred. Look forward to seeing what’s next
Thanks Andrew! Agreed!
It looks great. Enjoy it as long as you want - you'll know when the time is right to switch it up again. Safe and happy driving...
Cheers Jon!
A very inserting video as usual Jay . A lot of the points you raise are applicable to all classic car maintenance and spare parts are expensive.I think you have done very well. Looking forward to see how you get on.
Thank you, Andrew!
I do all my own repairs, I give Roger a lot of money. 😂
I’ve done everything you mentioned.
I better start getting a video together to show my project 928.
I have two 928s 1985, one is a perfect parts car.
I didn’t hardly pay much for it but it is super handy to have around.
Cheers Mate
Congratulations 🍷
Cheers Diego! You should do a video, yes!
Great video, thanks for sharing!
You got a great deal! I paid a lot more for my 87 S4. The body/interior were in excellent shape - I didn't have to do anything there. Mechanically, I spent about what you did for many of the same things. A/C and heater are a must. Shocks and springs only if the ride gets bad; wheels only if you have money burning a hole in your pocket or you just hate the originals (I happen to like them). One of the reasons I wanted one of these was to experience the car as it was in '87, so I'm not interested in upgrades for the most part. I did have a modern Porsche PCCM Classic radio put in for nav, CarPlay, and satellite radio, but otherwise it's pretty stock.
Cheers Jack!
I've thoroughly enjoyed this series.
Job well done
Thanks for watching, Simon!
You made out ok on the price on it. I paid more for my 80 928! I don’t think it would have been the case without the discount on the parts though! Your “average Joe” can expect a bigger number for a similar repair job.
Cheers!
I love those wheels, they are a part of the design. :) Car is looking great now and you now have a Great driver!
Thanks a lot!
Looks great Jay! Now more updates also road trips keeping it longer. But it always costs more to make a 928 better.
Cheers Jaap as always!
Overall, the costs seem acceptable. And in fairness to the car a lot of those items are service items. Steering rack is common on those and leaking rad or not it makes basic sense to replace the original rad. When you break it all down , I'd be happy with those costs.
Do the shocks, springs, heater matrix, A/C and refurbish the wheels, you'll have a truly great Euro spec 928.
Now, start using it regularly over say a couple years and the costs in real terms will tumble. Importantly, the car now inspires confidence to use as even a daily driver.
Anyway, if it all about basic car costs, everybody would be driving Toyota's and almost all 928's would have been scrapped long ago.
Keep up the good work.
Yes, that’s right, John. I agree. Thanks for watching!
Jay, this has been really interesting to watch. I do enjoy your style and openness. The 928 is where it needs to be right now, I think you’re calling it at the right time. As much as you enjoy it, I think we’ll soon see you back in a 911. Really pleased the channel is making good progress for you. All the best. Stuart
Thanks as always, Stuart! That’s really nice of you! 911? Maybe!
Thank you for the video. I recently found a 928 S4 with blown head gaskets and non working digital dash for less that what you paid with nice interior, nice paint (other than a small spot on the hood), and new tires and I am doing all the work, but parts aren't cheap on these. After pulling the engine, all the little parts, hoses, wires etc. make it a puzzle that will make it the most complex project I have done so far, but your positive attitude gives me inspiration that I made a good decision.
You did! Go for it! You’ll love it
I kept all of my cars Jay.... I still have the 1978 924 special edition Porsche which i owned for the past 40 yrs and take her out in the summer in upstart NY. It is not about the Money but passion
Exactly!
Jay you got a nice driver for the paid price and the maintenance just upped its condition. Watching recent reviews of the 928 and how it’s become a sought after car your decision to keep it on the road was brilliant.
Thanks so much, Paul!
Jay, great stuff and LOVE the car. Pleasure to view your progress and the price is spot on! Improvements to make it a safe, daily driver, it's 100% worth it. It feels good to have a "head-turner" too (your video quotes the price of a Camry!! A Camry vs. a 928S?!?!?).
Hey thanks, Robert! Appreciate your watching! Yeah, which would you rather have?! Haha!
Great job Jay.
Thanks!
Informative video Jay, you did good, it’s definitely a future collectible. Keep chipping away as pennies and time permit and restore it to absolute minter spec’…. You know it makes sense Rodders. Looking forward to the 991 video, naturally aspirated howling flat 6… bring it.
Cheers mate!
Whatever you spent, at least you ended up with one pf the most beautiful designs ever. The original 928 was amazing, the 928s was the pinnacle, then they messed it up when they rounded it off in '87. It looks as great to me as it did when I was a 10-year-old kid looking at it new.
Yeaaah!
Always loved the s model styling best with the subtle black chin and cool wraparound rear spoilers. My 928s HAD to be guards red to me, but this owner has a great color for his 928
I really love your stuff Jay. I have an old 986 Boxster here in the UK (sunny Cornwall). It's far from perfect but I love her and she isn't cosseted but used and maintained. All of the fun, none of the obsession and worry. Keep up the great work, love your self-deprecating humour 😊
Cheers Steve! Our family used to have a home in Polgooth. Know Cornwall pretty well. Lovely place to live.
@@JAYREAD Polgooth is just down the road! I'm in St Austell. 🙂
@@stevepoole5542 aha!
Well, maybe you should not consider the 928 only through the entertaining filter of a youtube channel. This car is still a good investment. The 928 will be a real collector in a few years for sure. But to reach its maximum rating it will take 10 or 15 years, and it will require a perfect condition too. IMHO this is a car to keep for a long time (maybe a life time) then it will turn into gold for sure. This car will bring a smile on your face any time you sit behind the steering wheel. But can you afford the next 12k$ to raise it to a perfect condition ? Can you freeze that money for a long time ? Well, it's up to you. If I could, I would.
Good analysis! Honestly, this one is for me, not UA-cam. I e always wanted one and, yes, I grin every time I drive it! Thanks for watching!
This is absolutely super valuable info Jay, thanks so much for sharing it. Another 928 restorer spent 20k on parts and labor alone on his, so you're not doing too badly! This is in the ballpark of what I'm hoping mine will come to before it's road worthy and maintainable at decent specs (definitely not planning on a show car or anything close), and I didn't have to buy mine since it was my dad's. You've got a beauty there and if you dig it, every penny was worth it!
I'm also one of the few that likes the manhole covers. On the S4 they're a bit nicer. :)
Thanks Alexander!
Great vid Jay.
Thanks Stan!
Good on you, Jay. I believe these cars have captivated men exclusive to our vintage (1965?). My first exposure to the 928 was seeing Risky Business and then Scarface. It presented as the quintessential object of success. But unobtainable for a young man in 1982. 40 years later we've all come of age and the appeal remains, yet all the more compelling. I appreciate you taking the time to share your insights and experience, you've done some brilliant work.
That’s very nice of you, thank you! Yes! We STILL can’t afford them! Haha!
Thanks so much for giving us real numbers. I am currently combing sites looking for 928s and this info is incredibly valuable!
One maintanence issue you haven't mentioned but I would strongly recommend is to replace the fuel lines. I have seen too many 80's era Porsches go up in flames by neglecting this relatively easy fix.
Thanks Michael! Yes, I thought it might be helpful for people looking for one. My fuel lines are OK actually. Unlike my electrics! Eeesh! I’ll get there. The journey is so much more fun than the destination! Thanks for watching!
That wasn't nearly as bad as I imagined it would be. Now I need to reassess what my next Porsche will be.
Haha! Me too!
Hi Jay, I think that you have made sensible and cost effective decisions. As you say, there comes a point where it is no longer sensible to keep spending money for only cosmetic return. Loving your videos!
Thanks Christopher!
Great video and I like the interior it matches the exterior. Design wise I prefer the original tele dial wheels on the first cars but yours is great. Do some road trips!
Thanks Kris!
That's a great car you got there and what you spent is reasonable.
Awesome video 👍
Cheers!
I was surprised by the parts and labor total. I'm just about there with mine, but including the purchase price, and replacing the engine. I've done almost all the labor on my own, which has saved me a considerable amount of money. And I only have the stock m28 US engine. A 300hp euro angine would be awesome - I can see why you paid more for the car. There are still some good deals out there on 928s, I've got a second one that I'm getting ready to sell and I hope it goes to someone that will enjoy the car.
The car looks great after all the work you've put into it!!
The 928 is nothing BUT a passion project at this point in time.
Hahahaha! Yes. Fair!
but what a passion it is-
thanks for sharing.
Beautiful original car love the colour
Oh thanks a lot! You should watch my recent video and take a look at it after the detailers got hold of it! Oh my God, it dazzles now!
I also watch a lot of restoration videos which I enjoy, but for cars I think it’s a bit different. There is the element of enjoyment in the ownership which kinda outweighs the investment and possible return and like your video says Jay, you might be driving a Toyota for a similar cost but you are actually driving a 928 Porsche. I agree there becomes a line perhaps not to cross. Some man logic in there 😊. I enjoy your videos, thank you.
Cheers Barrie!
Love it wish I could afford one that would be great you 928S looks great
Now’s the time! They’re still cheap!
The value will go up because these were always great cars and the classic market is rising. I think you got that car at a really good price. I owned one four fourteen years and when I would take it in for service I would say change anything that's required and the cost was high then but that car never broke down bullet proof engine.
I always wanted one as a daily driver 20 years ago. I got a 944S2 instead due the much lower maintenance costs (4 cylinder) and better fuel economy. I look at your video today and I think yes, I still love the 928. But today with gas prices in Europe and the whole transition to EV, it will be a passion project that makes no economic sense to me. I'll just have keep watching video's like this...
Yes, you don’t get a 928 if economic sense is in the plan! Mind you, it never was in mine!
Can’t really comment on costs as I have a UK viewpoint there. But I really enjoyed the video and I think the key point is that made both by yourself and other commentators, namely that if YOU like the car and YOU are happy with the costs then it is justified. I always tend to go for the ‘keep for a long time’ approach to justify costs…trouble is whilst that means I don’t sell very often I do keep buying so the projects just mount up 😂
Ain’t that the truth, Lee! Cheers mate!
I wouldn’t worry about over doing it. Someone out there would really like to buy a sorted 928. Love the car and everything you’ve put into it.
Thank you!
Good for you
Enjoy your car Jay , happy days on the road 🏎️
Thanks! ❤️
Always wanted one when they were new , a few years ago now 🤣😬
For an almost 40 year old car with all that differed maintenance, that's not too bad considering. A lot of those repairs would need to be done on any 40 year old car. All in (so far) for $22.5k, I think you did alright. Do the seat covers as long as you have them. I tried that Clyde's stuff on my seats as well. It was a waste of money. I've always loved the 928. Hope you keep it for a while. And thanks for the videos!
Thanks! It’s not going anywhere! I have MUCH more to do! Video coming soon!
Looking good, I'd enjoy the car. Just keep up on the stuff to keep in running well. If the opportunity comes along, maybe refresh the suspension and a little side project on the DIY Wheel refurb. Bit of a UK question: Why are the two reg plates?
Ha thanks! One is it’s original German plate and the other the US plate.
Over here in the U.S you are allowed to put an original country of origin plate on if you like. Here in Florida I see people do that all the time. German cars they go for German plates underneath and English cars will have English plates. In some states like Florida the D.M.V only gives you 1 Licence plate to install in your car. So no ugly front Licence plate to install on any cars. Which I think detracts from the designers original intent of design. Which helps on all my sports cars. On our family Volvo XC90 we picked it up in Sweden and now run the original red Licence plate on the front of the car they install upon factory delivery. Looks very fitting.
new subscriber. Great vid!
I've used your technique for years on many Euro models with great results.
Have to find someone OTHER THAN the dealer to do the work, but it's easy to do.
A better approach, is to JOIN THE car club and THEN start looking: the reason being that most club members take great care of their cars (and you might score one) and/or they will help you find one.
great comradery too!
Thanks for watching!
Great vid.
Cheers chap!
I think you bought well. Its a beautiful car, and my favourite Porsche. I agree with your comment about the wheel offset, I've always thought the rear wheels are tucked into the fenders a little too far. I've always loved the profile and front end of the 928, while the rear end and rear offset are my least favourite parts of the design. Gorgeous, ahead of its time interior. There is a lot to be said about a classic car you can afford, and one that you can enjoy without constantly worrying about it. I've never been one to buy a car with an eye to its future resale value (I've owned one car for 21 years!). Enjoyed this episode.
Thanks a lot for watching! I agree with you 100%! ❤️
Hi Jay, a great looking car and thanks for the honesty. I was thinking of getting one but the choice was very limited here in Ireland. I got a good 944S2 so I'll stick with that maybe sell it and try a 928 in a few years.
There are 2 good ongoing UK 928 restorations on youtube. Todd Gibbs and David Johnson (AKA The artful bodger). Both cars were pretty awful to start with. David will be starting his rebuilt engine soon.
Ah thanks! Appreciate it! Nothing wrong with a 944 either! Might be my son’s first car in a few months!
Just polish the wheels and add spacers.
I'll add to the chorus here and say well done. I spent about the same on a 944t some years back and sold it for too little - and I don't regret spending that money. I learned that I need to spend to build a proper duffer's garage so i can buy a project and rebuild something here at home over the course of a couple of years. That's the only real way to have an economical Porsche for me.
I should do that too really. I just don’t have the time though. Besides, I’d wreck it! Haha!
Wheels look gorgeous to me…… period correct
Is always the way to go!
Just enjoy, seems like great car.
If i had the pockets, I'd love to have one. It would probably be my first choice out of the garage.
Hi Jay:
I enjoy your channel.
You asked for comments as to why you do what you do.
It seems clear you are producing material for your UA-cam channel and enjoying yourself whilst do it. As some famous person once said, the joy is in the chase (or was it, joy was in the journey?). Once the chase/journey is over the world becomes mundane once more.
That is you, Jay, once you reach a point of accomplishment with a car, for now it's P cars, you start to get ancy and what to move on, your journey is over (on that particular car)......nothing wrong with that, keeps you interesting and active while you learn something new.
Keep the flag flying, I enjoy watching and learning from your little adventures. Remember, it's better and cheaper ($$$$)to start a new journey (need for change and challenge) than getting a divorce. 😊
Haha! Thanks Salvatore!
I watched this with great interest. I have a 2013 Z06 with now approaching 120K miles. Over the past 2 1/2 years, I've put in probably $15-16K. Much were repairs to the electro-mechanical things. Included is regular maintenance (brakes, tires, belts, plugs, wires, coil packs...). Most fluids were changed at least 2x over its life. The HVAC actuators were replaced. As well as both cores. As well as a failing fuel pump. Owning cars like these can be very expensive. But, the driving is very rewarding. Otherwise, all the main mechanical things seem to be surviving well. Happy driving in your 928! I've always pined after one of these. 🍻
I’m with you, brother!
Nice, frank, informative video, Jay! Pleasure meeting you at Amelia, btw. Similar situation with my 86.5, but I’ve gotten a bit more carried away. $27k to buy with motor and electrics mostly redone, then another $18k or so for tires, shocks, GT wheels refinished, and an extended spa stay with Howard Wright at European Classics. So for ~$45k I have a very solid, reliable head-turning classic Porsche that I LOVE to drive!
You’ve got a GREAT car! That’s what it’s all about, right!
Bought very cheap well done. Seems a well sorted car now for s decent price.
Thanks! Yes, a bit more sorting to be done but getting close now!
Hi Jay!
Wheels: 17 inch Cup 1 or Cup 2 or 18inch standard rims of a 997 all look awesome and look great
Heating is done with valves and vacuum lines and solenoid valves. No big deal
AC: Pull vacuum and see how long it holds it, then you know if it is leaking. And AC control unit in your dashboard has a very small grey relay in it which often fails. Relay is 2 USD and easy to be welded
Looking forward to what you are doing next. You bought a great 928.
Cheers from Taiwan
Thank you! Great post!
No way the cup 1 or 2’s look amazing but they look best on the Series 2 and newer rear end. On that car I’d actually make it pure to its original design and install the original 78-82 phone dial wheels. And perhaps remove the spoilers also. With the interior since the leather is a little shabby I’d install new pasha centers on the front and rear seats and on the doors. That would be WOW 🤩
After seeing how much you spent...I think I will try to do as much of the labor as I can on my own😁
Actually the labour was reasonable. The parts are the expensive part. Good luck!
I think those wheels look awesome and you have to keep them. If you need to add spacers to the wheels it doesn't cost too much. Probably don't need springs but you could get by with just shocks.
These wheels have really grown on me actually. I don’t like the offset though at the rear. I think 25mm spacers could be the solution.
you can't have your cake and eat it !-) seems very normal to me that you had to spend money to bring this car to a solid driver condition ..you got a killer deal so don't look back on these necessary costs ...plus, why everything needs to equal to financial return ? Joy is the genius zone and doesn't necessarily means getting ROI ..I spent less "fixing things " on my S2 manual but more on the purchase price ...btw, have you done a major tuneup on your car ? distribution cap/rotor , ignition wire, fuel injector etc ? ..if it was sitting for a while might be something to do ..an another $2K right there ..anyway, enjoy your beautiful and rare S2 ..to your point the journey is as enjoyable as the destination ...cheers
True!
So, for under $25000 you have very good used car that is a GREAT LOOKING car too. I am sure you will get another 100000 miles out of it. Keep it drive it enjoy it.
YEEEAAAAH! ❤️
Thx for the informative video. I just bought a 5 spd euro 1981 for $2,200, a new set of tires, and a long tow home. All in for under $4k. No rust, all original. Your video makes me think it just may be worth parting with some cash to get her running and back on the road. Cheers!
You did well there! Good luck!
Pasha interior?
No it doesn't matter. I like your approach. For paintwork, doing a professional paint correction would probably be a good investment. Driving the cars is where the fun is. Not a fan of cars that sit in a garage and never get driven
Agreed! I’m going to drive the a$$ off this car!
I think the 928 is a fantastic looking car. I love the wheels on yours too ( i know you dont) When i bought my Carrera 3.2 i thought long and hard as to whether i should have bought the 928 they had for sale. Id still love one
Do it! Actually the longer I’ve owned it, the more the wheels have grown on me.
@@JAYREAD I’d like your wheels, your slim rear lights, and blue…I fancy the lighter metallic blue they did or rauch quartz metallic…
Excellent transparency. I have an 89 S4 and I approach it like a Vermeer. It has 157k miles. Thanks for the reality check.
Thanks for watching!
The short answer is yes. The long answer is that it's cheaper than most German cars. The 928's are actually really easy to work on, and tend to never rust which makes it easy to take apart things. The problem is that it's a Porsche, so of course all mechanics charge you a fortune to fix and none of them know what they are doing. The reality is most of the parts for the 928's are common parts you'll find on VW, BMW's, and Mercedes but of course the 928 community will direct you to the most expensive source of these parts. Even 944 parts fit the 928 and are a fraction of the cost.
I think you have done very well! The car looks really nice. Tell me what car restoration was cheap? An immaculate example will have its life living in the garage due to being too precious and a headache of driving/increasing the kms, potential damage ... saving it for the next person etc. At least you can enjoy. They are all a money pit but it's immediately forgotten when you turn the key, hear that gorgeous V8 and drive!
100% agree! Thanks Vince!
Your car is still very good Jay and your right you have done the extensive repairs,and it will go for a long time
It's a pity the maintenace was let go,and sadly it;s a popular story with 928's
At least the tech you had do work on your did a top job
Not the case with mine
I have a 1981 manual and it is a pristine car,but sadly the people that have worked on are not qualified to be working on them
They do require a dedicated/motivated expert to work on them
I'm doing a LS 6.0 engine set up by Renegade in Las Vegas and it's well proven,and then the car will be reliable
I have a perfect engine with MSD headers,Euro spec cams,Porken tensioners
All powder coated etc,but it's running is like playing Russian Roulette sadly!
We have named it the "Could Be" it could be this/or it could be that?
I would have the same $$ tied up like you,but at least your car goes
Happy motoring Jay
Cheers
Frank👍
Thanks a lot, Frank! Best of luck with yours!
YOuve got the balance just about right imo
Very good value for money Jay! Here in Europe a good but fairly used 928 is around 20-25k. Yours is recently pampered with parts so thats a benefit. This R134a can be used in the current system I learned so its maybe worth a try 🙏😀 good luck driving this Landshark
Now THAT is good to know! I’ll give it a shot!
In ten years of daily driving, I spent over $70,000 keeping my '82 928S on the road, and upgrading it with S4 parts, including the transaxle and GTS brakes. Be prepared for massive bills. There are always at least three things which cost over $1,000 to fix on a 928. Always.
There is no such thing as a budget 928 - only a budget FOR a 928.
And remember that PORSCHE stands for:
Plenty
Of
Racing
Should
Cause
Heavy
Expenditure
Hahaha!
It’s a great looking car, the guy at the workshop is a top bloke, I would continue to get it fixed, including ignition, heater and airconditioning, as it will be great.
Interior looks pretty good to be honest, I would probably work with the seats to keep the colours right but just take it to a top seat repair place to have the cushions on the front seats reshaped or new cushions put in under the leather, to get the shape perfect again, that’s a big thing to get it right for the nice look of the cabin etc up front, the rear seats look great… I would the use the best Lear he rejuvenator you can get or take it to one of the custom detailing places in Connecticut and get them to do it.. they may also be able to do the cushions repairs etc, to get the shape of the seats squabs perfect again…
Cheers
Thanks Gary! Yes, that’s the plan, all of it. Eventually. I’m pleased that I got the big engineering done first and the rest can be done over time. Thanks for watching!
@@JAYREAD
I totally agree, I’m contemplating buying a similar car to yours at the moment, I’ve found one in great condition… but it’s expensive at around $80,000 AUD, 1985 928 S manual, which is what I would get, as I’ve already got a C43 AMG Mercedes…
I would probably go for new shocks and springs and because the fuel in the States has ethanol perhaps change the fuel lines, maybe refurbish the rims, but that's an option.
Yes, I will get to the shocks and springs one day. It’s on the list! ❤️
If it makes you happy….. priceless
I suppose that’s the bottom line, isn’t it!? I agree! ❤️
I love these kinds of videos.
I restore cars as well. It's a passion of mine.
Im a numbers guy. I break down the costs into 4 categories. 1.) Expected Costs 2.) While I'm in there Costs 3.) Unexpected Costs 4.) Elective Costs
A few items I include in the Expected Costs category are things like tires, brake pads, brake rotors, brake fluid, trans fluid replacement, wheel alignment, spark plugs, spark plug wires, and filters, windshield wipers. In my opinion, these things should be done on any used car you buy with around 50k miles, no matter how new the car is.
My top two items I look forward to replacing on every car I buy are the brake rotors and pads and the tires. Makes such a dramatic improvement in the driving experience.
While I'm in there Costs include things like tie rods, shocks, wheel bearings, wheel hubs, control arms/ball joints. However, some of these items can be included in the Expected Costs depending on the age and mileage of the car.
Unexpected costs would include things like the steering rack replacement, engine or transmission issues like newly-discovered head gasket issues, transmission issues.
Elective Costs are things like upgrading the exhaust system, aftermarket wheels, bigger brake kits, modified intake systems.
Good thinking, Andy! Thanks for watching!
I just bought a 928 that needs a complete interior (as in plastic trims, one seat and carpet and a new head liner) do you have any suggestions on how to get my hands on them?
Ha! I don’t have a magic solution, I’m afraid! Just keep your eyes peeled in the usual places and things crop up! Try 928SRUS and 928 Intl for all else!
Interesting video. My dream 928 is a late GTS. Are you spending too much? Difficult to say as you haven't mentioned how many miles your 928 has covered, so far.
77k!
you have the balance just right ,,
if you marked it up 10k for a modest profit, i'd buy it for 30 and be stoked! I'd probably fix the ac/ heat and interior. It's a keeper though so...
I came across a 1982 5spd for 3k$ not running that’s been sitting for at least 12 years and I wish I could get myself to but it but these repairs got me thinking again ☹️
Haha! I know!
IMO: Definitely: heater core + air conditioning + cooling + refurb existing iconic wheels + mop old paint (maybe touch in the worst if absolutely necessary) + minor interior detail. Optionally: shocks, springs, seats. I wouldn't repaint. I wouldn't spend a small fortune on major detailing. I wouldn't upgrade the exhaust. Maximum spend should be 30k, IMO. You purchased the car at the right price, and a fully refreshed car must be worth 30k in the US market as best as I can tell. Maybe you will even make a profit when you come to sell.
Cheers Nigel!
It’s still a good looking car.
It really is, isn’t it, David? I keep kicking myself every time I see it.
When you say you’re too big for the Boxster, how tall are you? I’m just over 6’ and thinking about one in the near future. Thanks for any response in advance.
5’ 11”. Try one and see what you think. It’s the wall behind the seats that prevents them going back far enough. I have long legs.
I had one for years, didn't bankrupt me, in fact I found that it was completely reliable.
I’ll give you 12k for it as it sits. 😊 if you want to own a classic car, one should be prepared to do as much of the maintenance as possible, unless you have deep pockets, and apparently yours are deep. How do you like the 928 vs the 996? Maybe that would be a good video. I love watching your videos. Looking forward to the next one.
Hahaha! You will not! Thanks for watching!
I have owned my Mercedes 320 SL for nearly 20 years . I have spent nearly as much as I could have bought another one for what it’s cost me in the last 2 years. It’s nearly 30 years old and I will never sell it so I don’t mind !
I understand that! Haha!
We all go into this as a love affair with the 928. All us shark owners know she can be an expensive mistress at times...but then we look at her beauty and are beguiled when we drive her...8 years with my 84 928s.
Thanks Frank! Agree!
@JAY READ I feel blessed to live here in Dallas which is also where 928srus is located. He takes care of all of our 928s needs as well. Roger hosts our monthly breakfasts. Good mate. Tell him I said hello if I don't see him first.
Interesting video. I am confused. You said at the beginning that it was a 1985 model. The engine intake is from a pre-1985 model. Non-US model, maybe? I had a 1985 with manual trans that I wish I had kept.
Yes, Euro car! I wish mine had a manual. Auto is awful!
It's a very special "twin dizzy" engine, in the '84-'86 RoW cars.
Restoration projects are nearly all 'way more than it's worth.' Basically a universal rule.
I think so too!
You are located in MI, Jay? I'm in southwest MI. Sorry if I missed it, but what year is yours? I'm very slowly working on a '84 S2 manual.
Edited: Ahh, yours is a '85.
CT, mate. Yes, ‘85!
Oh, I saw that MI plate and thought maybe you were over somewhere on the east side of the state.
It's the "dealing what others have NOT done" type of situation...double edge sword with these cars, get a good one and you spent through the nose, get a bad one and your spend through the nose...But is it what one wants though?
That’s the question!
@@JAYREAD mentioning Brakes though, you at least don't have to deal with front Rotors of the 6 Pot Brembos us Challenger folks have... 2,100$ CDN for 1...if one goes through the dealer the fronts alone are like 6 Grand, before taxes ...
@@BMan100 YIKES!
@@JAYREAD small price to pay when you can stop on a dine, mind you the 9 cents change would have to be debt or credit since we don’t have Pennys here anymore in canada
Actually 22k is pretty good!
I had to read that twice! Lol!
@@JAYREADit’s a very good price I couldn’t agree more with Nick Murray. You got such a great deal on a Euro 928. Far rarer than the U.S spec 928’s in that time period. You don’t see them going for $12,000 on auto trader or Car Gurus listings. Thanks 🙏🏻 for being so transparent with the pricing you paid Jay. It gives us all insights on what the markets costs are currently. Which so many UA-camrs conveniently leave out. Keep up the great work!
Feel you are around the right value to cost ratio. Buying a 20k version wouldnt come with the promise of no big bills. So what if its a little tired, it matches the driver......joking of course.
Hahahaha! Joking but accurate, Phil!