Understanding the Authority of the Catholic Church
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- Brother Lawrence returns with Fr. Mark-Mary after telling his story, and this time they talk about understanding the authority of the pope in the Church. Coming from an evangelical background actually helped Brother Lawrence understand how leaders can be broken. Nonetheless, when you find out about the sins of someone you look up to, that doesn’t invalidate the good you’ve experienced through them. God can use imperfect people to accomplish his work. In fact, there is no other way to do so because we are all imperfect.
Pope Benedict XVI, in his book Call to Communion, said “The pope has always been both petros and skandalon.” The pope has always been the foundation stone of the Church (petros) and a stone that people trip over, a stumbling block (skandalon). Scandal has always plagued the Church, and this may be a stumbling block for some, but the Church has always stood tall in the midst of it all, because God can still accomplish his will through our frailty and despite our sins.
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"God gave us a family, but we have broken parents. God gave us a church, but we have broken pastors. But we have God's promise, which is not broken." Brilliant! Thank you!
Bonnie Melielo
Oh give me a home
Where there's no Pope of Rome
Where there's nothing but Protestants stay
Where seldom is heard a discouraging word
And flute bands play The Sash every day
No, no Pope of Rome
No chapels to sadden my eyes
No nuns and no priests
No Rosary beads
Every day is the 12th of July
Up a wee narrow close
Just by Brigton Cross
Aye it's there the place we call home
On the twelth there we join
To remember The Boyne
And to pray let's have no Pope of Rome
No, no Pope of Rome
No chapels to sadden my eyes
No nuns and no priests
No Rosary beads
Every day is the 12th of July
@@daniellamont3439 Not sure what thought you are trying to express. If you aren't Catholic than why are you following a Catholic site? If you are Catholic then I am very confused.
Bonnie Melielo UA-cam isn’t catholic
CATHOLIC FAITH
[ ] I give you all that I have,
[ ] broken heart,troubled soul,
[ ] battle scars , failures.
[ ] For you are my good Lord,
[ ] the one who seeks to bless.
[ ] Above all else I have faith,
[ ] you will bless me abundantly;
[ ] For I am your child,
[ ] and you are my father.
[ ]
[ ]
[ ] My faith lacks in things,
[ ] for i am born with sin.
[ ] Hence I pray to thy mother,
[ ] For she is virgin most faithful.
[ ] She interceeds for me,
[ ] For she loves me as her own.
[ ] I recieve God's blessings ,
[ ] through her prayers.
[ ] Thank you lord Jesus,
[ ] For granting us thy mother.
@@daniellamont3439 Of course not. that is silly. I addressed your comment on the Ascension Presents video, which is Catholic.
I was lead into Catholicism and I am happy that I am going to be part of the True Church The Church Of Jesus Christ
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? That my friend is a cult religion. I pray and hope you find and search the true and living scriptures for urself and find peace within it.
@@mikexiong7354 first of all, he said Catholicism. Not Mormon. Second, have you sought out the Mormon faith?
quote---I am happy that I am going to be part of the True Church The Church Of Jesus Christ... unquote
Quote that FROM the bible----Book, chapter and verses
Amen, so true, God continues to work in our lives as long as you allow him to even as we are broken, he is our Father. Glory to God!
The Church is perfect because of Jesus not us sinners. Jesus and His beautiful plans for us.
Great insight, thank you! I've pondered that many times also about God's gifts and our sinfulness, and God always leads me to Matthew 5:45, "for the sun rises on the good and the evil, and does not the rain fall on the just and the unjust". For the Lord loves us all, the good and bad, through thick and thin.
I love my Catholic Faith God bless my brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus
Amen 🙏
quote----I love my Catholic Faith God bless my brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus.. unquote
Exodus 20:3-17
******New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition
3 you shall have no other gods before me.
4 You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me, 6 but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation[b] of those who love me and keep my commandments.
7 You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.
8 Remember the sabbath day , and keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work. 10 But the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work-you, your son or your daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the alien resident in your towns. 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but rested the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and consecrated it.
12 Honor your father and your mother, so that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you.
13 You shall not murder.
14 You shall not commit adultery.
15 You shall not steal.
16 You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
17 You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.
NOTE the bible that is quoted from!!!
This video came at such a good time in my life. Thank you and God bless!
It's true, we are none of us impeccable; 'boldly and compassionately hold accountable.' Thank you so much. God bless you
i absolutely love you guys! thank you for your wisdom...
brian kelly
Oh give me a home
Where there's no Pope of Rome
Where there's nothing but Protestants stay
Where seldom is heard a discouraging word
And flute bands play The Sash every day
No, no Pope of Rome
No chapels to sadden my eyes
No nuns and no priests
No Rosary beads
Every day is the 12th of July
Up a wee narrow close
Just by Brigton Cross
Aye it's there the place we call home
On the twelth there we join
To remember The Boyne
And to pray let's have no Pope of Rome
No, no Pope of Rome
No chapels to sadden my eyes
No nuns and no priests
No Rosary beads
Every day is the 12th of July
CATHOLICISM IS DEVIL WORSHIP! SATAN LOVES THE CATHOLIC MASS!
@Elijah That is illogical! Satan does not do battle with the catholic church because satan founded the catholic church! CATHOLICS HATE JESUS CHRIST! CATHOLICS HATE THEMSELVES! WAKE UP PEOPLE!
What proof do you have that the Catholic church? You can't call us you are accusing us with 0 logic. We love Christ and we serve ONLY Christ a different way than you do. Leave us alone 🤦
Much love for you brothers💗
Thanks for this great ministry - love your honesty from the heart, and plain language, which end up being an expression of humility - I'm drawn in - nearly feel like I'm sitting at table with you. Great insight here: “God gives gifts which will remain even when the person is sinful” - yes. This helpful reminder makes me think of the first King of Israel (Saul), or the 2nd King of Israel (David), or the third King of Israel (Solomon), etc. - God loves us, and gifts us with free will - when we freely choose God's way with that gift of free will, we are “free in God”, and God waits for this response of love from us. Another great line: “God worked through these sinful broken men, because that’s the way God does it … God’s promises are not broken”” - I can identify with that. Thanks again.
Angelic Doctor very well said!😍
Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. Absolutely wonderful. I learn so much from Ascension Presents!
I had an opportunity to meet Fr Laurence twice. Sending blessings your way.
Being able to recognize good authority, or the authority of an office and being obedient to it is humility. As St john Climacus said "Humility is the only thing no devil can imitate" ..find someone "willfully" disobedient and you'll see the devil crouching at their door.
I thank you brothers.....
God bless
Thank you for another fantastic video and discussion.
Superb! So well put!
Thank you, God bless
Looking forward to it!
I like this because it's true but I dislike it because it's a hard truth being responsible for the gifts we're given. Thank you for the video!
I'm a christian and have some different views than yall but I wanna say you guys are very knowledgeable, wise, professional and I wish I had more if that in my church with these somewhat deep conversations.
I appreciate this heart-felt expression of love for the Roman Catholic Church by Brother Lawrence, and I agree many of his points. Primarily, I agree that we do all sin, and fall hopelessly short of the glory of God (Rom 3:23).
However, these sins were repeated AND enabled by the Roman Catholic Church, all the way up to the level of the Cardinalate. In Matt 18 and Heb 12, God provides for church discipline, including pastors and elders in the church, Catholic or Protestant. God is showing us His loving care in providing these clear, procedural steps to protect congregants from the sins of their leaders, and the Roman Catholic Church has repeatedly and deliberately ignored them over both years and centuries past.
When an institution of men uses scripture, the NT and OT, to elevate itself to a position of authority above the word of God, then that institution has given itself primacy over that scripture, and that scripture, that very Word of God, becomes subject to the whims of this institution of man. It appears obvious that the Roman Catholic Church has indeed so insinuated itself, to the destruction of so many unknown and countless lives, all for the sake of maintaining itself as the inarguable/immutable/infallible "church of Jesus Christ."
This is why I'm no longer a Catholic. This is why I pray for the people who remain in the Roman Catholic Church, that God will protect them from this "Catholic Church" until He leads them to a place of safety, in accordance with His immutable will...and NOT the will of that Church that seeks to use them for what is right in their own eyes (Jud 21:25).
[ ] I give you all that I have,
[ ] broken heart,troubled soul,
[ ] battle scars , failures.
[ ] For you are my good Lord,
[ ] the one who seeks to bless.
[ ] Above all else I have faith,
[ ] you will bless me abundantly;
[ ] For I am your child,
[ ] and you are my father.
[ ]
[ ]
[ ] My faith lacks in things,
[ ] for i am born with sin.
[ ] Hence I pray to thy mother,
[ ] For she is virgin most faithful.
[ ] She interceeds for me,
[ ] For she loves me as her own.
[ ] I recieve God's blessings ,
[ ] through her prayers.
[ ] Thank you lord Jesus,
[ ] For granting us thy mother.
One holy Catholic and Apostolic Church!
One God, one baptism, one church.
Thank you brothers lovely message . Romans chapter 5 , not religion, Romans chapter 5 brothers.
1 Corinthians 4 v 6 6 Brothers , I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us not to go beyond what is written. Then you will not take pride in one man over another.
love listening in to your vids..always very interesting and bring a message
Great video
GOD blessed us all 🙏😇👼♥️ and give us all the strength to resist evil wicked things / ways. God loves us sinners with all His Heart 🙏 🙏 Poco a Poco vamos a llegar. I love it. Thanks be to God forever and ever 🙏 🙏♥️♥️ Sending much love to you all from DC
Tell Fr. Stephen I said Hi!
Fr. Mark Mary, I’m currently at St. Joe’s Friary... see you Sunday in Newark?
Thank you and God Bless. I tried to find the book called to Communion by Pope Benedict and can’t locate it.
Is it possible for someone from ascension presents to respond to my comments. I am fairly new to posts and commenting so I don’t exactly know how all of this works. Or just from anybody else. I would really like to dialogue about this.
I should of written see here, I know, thank you people.
Can you do a video on who the ecclesiastical authorities are under cannon law?
OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE PLEASE BLESS AND HELP US ALL 🕇 🌹 🕇 🌹 🕇 🌹 🕇
She died, man. Just like all of the other saints who have fallen asleep as Paul says. Our help comes from the Lord, the maker of Heaven and Earth.
I hope you figure it out, bro.
Luke K In the Apocalypse we clearly see "souls under the altar"--undoubtedly, those belonging to the righteous dead--who are very much conscious:
"I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne; 10 they cried out with a loud voice, 'O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before thou wilt judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell upon the earth?'” (Rev 6:9-10).
Luke K So when you say that your trying to contradict the Bible because the term “sleep” is most likely another metaphor
@@callmebigboy6411 This brings up the age old conversation about what is called "Soul Sleep". It's a very interesting topic and I think there are verses which promote both sides. Death is very commonly referred to as sleep in the New Testament by Jesus, the writers of the book of Acts, and the Apostle Paul.
I appreciate you bringing it to my attention, but don't be so quick to accuse others of "trying to contradict the Bible". So often when we try to pick the speck out of someone's eye, the log in our own hits them over the head.
The discussion on whether or not souls sleep after death or are brought directly to judgment is a secondary issue here. My point is that it is true that our help comes from the Lord, the maker of Heaven and Earth. I would go as far to say that there is absolutely no reason to come to Mary or any of the saints in prayer, since we have the sole mediator between God and man acting on our behalf, and he is 100% loving and merciful and willing for us to be saved.
We only have one teacher- the Holy Spirit.
Yay
God bless fathers
Matthew 23:9
King James Version
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
I am still and forever Catholic because I love to receive the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of God. This is my only reason.
Roman Catholics sure believe the strangest things.
@@johnbrowne1836 What exactly are you talking about?
Luke 17 vs 20 - 21
Now when he was asked by the pharisees when the kingdom of God would come. He answered them and said, "the kingdom of God does not come with observation;
" nor will they say 'see hear ! or see there ! For indeed the kingdom of God is within you.
Judas was a man given spiritual authority to heal, preach and exorcise spirits. He fell. So I can believe that real ministries can have leaders that fall. It’s unfortunate but I think it’s possible. I am terribly curious about and must study into the claimed authority of the Catholic Church. Because I feel like they’ve gotten some things wrong, in terms of understanding scripture (but hey maybe I’m wrong). But they are the Church that got to keep the name “Catholic” a beautiful name indicating that the church is “universal” and they claim to be able to trace their “lineage” to Peter.
May God help me to understand
Anyone else know Ukarumpa? 🙂
I would say the Adventist Church I grew up in has a similar interpretation of Matt 16, but the emphasis being on those who received Christ's Spirit (saints), not lineage. Yet, even saints have the liberty to muddy their garments.
“And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: Whosesoever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whosesoever sins ye retain, they are retained.” The Holy Spirit was not yet fully manifested; for Christ had not yet been glorified. The more abundant impartation of the Spirit did not take place till after Christ's ascension. Not until this was received could the disciples fulfill the commission to preach the gospel to the world. But the Spirit was now given for a special purpose. Before the disciples could fulfill their official duties in connection with the church, Christ breathed His Spirit upon them. He was committing to them a most sacred trust, and He desired to impress them with the fact that without the Holy Spirit this work could not be accomplished.
The Holy Spirit is the breath of spiritual life in the soul! The impartation of the Spirit is the impartation of the life of Christ. It imbues the receiver with the attributes of Christ. Only those who are thus taught of God, those who possess the inward working of the Spirit, and in whose life the Christ-life is manifested, are to stand as representative men, to minister in behalf of the church.
“Whosesoever sins ye remit,” said Christ, “they are remitted; ... and whosesoever sins ye retain, they are retained.” Christ here gives no liberty for any man to pass judgment upon others. In the Sermon on the Mount He forbade this. It is the prerogative of God. But on the church in its organized capacity He places a responsibility for the individual members. Toward those who fall into sin, the church has a duty, to warn, to instruct, and if possible to restore. “Reprove, rebuke, exhort,” the Lord says, “with all long-suffering and doctrine.” 2 Timothy 4:2. Deal faithfully with wrongdoing. Warn every soul that is in danger. Leave none to deceive themselves. Call sin by its right name. Declare what God has said in regard to lying, stealing, idolatry, and every other evil. “They which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.” Galatians 5:21. If they persist in sin, the judgment you have declared from God's word is pronounced upon them in heaven. In choosing to sin, they disown Christ; the church must show that she does not sanction their deeds, or she herself dishonors her Lord. She must say about sin what God says about it. She must deal with it as God directs, and her action is ratified in heaven. He who despises the authority of the church (not always necessarily an institution) despises the authority of Christ Himself.
But there is a brighter side to the picture. “Whosesoever sins ye remit, they are remitted.” Let this thought be kept uppermost. In labor for the erring, let every eye be directed to Christ. Let the shepherds have a tender care for the flock of the Lord's pasture. Let them speak to the erring of the forgiving mercy of the Saviour. Let them encourage the sinner to repent, and believe in Him who can pardon. Let them declare, on the authority of God's word, “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” 1 John 1:9. All who repent have the assurance, “He will have compassion upon us; He will subdue our iniquities; and Thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea.” Micah 7:19.
Let the repentance of the sinner be accepted by the church (here all members come into play, church not necessarily to mean a hierarchy) with grateful hearts. Let the repenting one be led out from the darkness of unbelief into the light of faith and righteousness. Let his trembling hand be placed in the loving hand of Jesus. Such a remission is ratified in heaven.
Only in this sense has the church power to absolve the sinner. Remission of sins can be obtained only through the merits of Christ. To no man, to no body of men, is given power to free the soul from guilt. Christ charged His disciples to preach the remission of sins in His name among all nations; but they themselves were not empowered to remove one stain of sin. The name of Jesus is the only “name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” Acts 4:12.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but the Romans, Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, and Thessalonians were all early churches established by the Apostles. The scripture was written to correct the people in the church established. Acts I know was written by Luke, Corinthians was written Paul. So yes, it is more than just a group of people who make up the church; there were actually early churches the Apostles tried to establish and teach and establish tradition in. The Catholic church historically is the closest church to the churches established at that time. 1 Corinthians 11:1 Be imitators of me, as I am Christ. I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold fast to the traditions, just as I handed them on to you.
As far as giving the Apostles authority, it is clearly done all throughout scripture. I have more if you want?
1 Corinthians 5:3-6
"I, for my part, although absent in body but present in spirit, have already, as if present, pronounced judgement on the one who has committed this deed, in the name of our Lord Jesus: When you have gathered together and I am with you in spirit with the power of the Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of his flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.
Mathew 10:1
Then he summoned his twelve disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits to drive them out and to cure every disease and every illness
Mark 6:7
And He summoned the twelve and began to send them out in pairs, and gave them authority over the unclean spirits.
Mark 16:17
"These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues
Luke 9:1-2
And He called the twelve together, and gave them power and authority over all the demons and to heal diseases. And He sent them out to proclaim the kingdom of God and to perform healing.
And lastly, no, there is no place in the Bible that says you have to confess to a priest or apostles or whatever. But it does say you must confess to God and your brothers and sisters. The Catholic church however, was smart enough to realize that priests typically are to be trusted, and they have authority, through apostolic succession, so why not allow us to confess through them TO God? They also have the knowledge to direct us to a more healthy relationship to God, as opposed to your friend who has put in nowhere near the amount of time studying the Gospel. I can tell you right now, confession is the most grace filled experience other than the Eucharist.
Just some thoughts, don't mean to be rude what so ever. Just sharing the other side and am open to being corrected.
Let us pray for those spreading heresy to come to Catholic Faith. I wonder. how protestants could ever think that Jesus Christ would have left His children on Earth worshipping and misrepresenting His Sacraments and Word for a millennia and a half years and that ONLY those saved came from an anti Semitic Luther? It's so sad to see so, so many misled. The Catholic Church is of our Lord Jesus Christ! God bless these Priests for upholding the Faith!
@Paulus Landericus The Crusades were a response to Islamic religious oppression; a defense - not an offense. This is a fact.
Eileen D what sacraments are described in scripture?
@@survivor1564 All of them. It's not a secret.
Eileen D they are not in the scripture at all.
@@survivor1564 You're a heretic. I do not overly engage with those who reject Jesus Christ's Church, as He Himself directed Peter to build. God help you.
Excellent discussion.
My personal answer to this dilemma, and to other aspects of it: I remain in the Church, but I am not of the Church. I am my own man. Is that answer acceptable to many other Catholics? Probably not. But for now, at least, that is what it takes to keep me here.
This is not a problem for "many other Catholics". This could be a problem only for you. See the Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 837. ... It depends on what you mean by saying that you are "not of the Church".
May the Lord guide you.
You ARE the church
Jacob Raji That is a good thought Jacob and like a blessing. Thank you.
lishmah lishmah you will stand alone before God one day regardless of what religion you’ve been in , yes on your own brother
Read Romans chapter 5
Galatians 3:28
28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
@@andrewdrew677 .
True. Catholic Church teaches that everyone will be personally judged by God. Catholic Church has been teaching that for 2,000 years.
But after 1500 Luther convinced many millions of christians that _"once saved always saved"_ by "faith alone" .
(this is a RELIGION. Protestants say: if you state that you "believe in Jesus" you are ok, you are in the correct religion, no judgement, you have the free ticket to Heaven).
I like Buddhism and Hinduism too...
But you will only find the one true living God in Christianity. The eastern religions teaches goodness but God invites you to be his sons and daughter. He gives you unconditional love. He is the living God who comes down from His high pedestal to be one amongst us. He loves you.
Christ be with you
We should hate everything that could take us from Christ.
God bless you
There’s no such thing as Hinduism. It’s a collection of different cults bunched up together by the Englishmen who investigated them.
Let's pray: God in Jesus Name we ask that the coronavirus pandemic disappears in all around the world, that there be peace in all around the world and that Jesus forgive all sins. Amen.
Quote the book, chapter and verses that Jesus mentions a church called Catholic-----Which means the quote MUST be from Matthew, Mark, Luke or John.
I notice in the background there's a large picture of Mary and a small cross with Jesus still on it. You're Roman Catholic all right.
It is a crucifix. They are not to scale! Trivial.
I got your point...nothing scriptual...Rcc is the beast system.
Hey I am probably going to become catholic this upcoming Easter which is a ways off but my old church didn’t keep baptismal records what will be done because of this
Good question
Mark 3:16; John 1:42 - Jesus renames Simon “Kepha” in *Aramaic* which literally means “rock.” The New Testament was written in Greek. Those outside of the Church mistakenly assume Jesus changed Simon's name using Greek. Making Peter “a small rock”. Using Petros to translate Kepha was done simply to reflect the masculine noun of Peter.
Matt. 16:17 - to further demonstrate that Jesus was speaking Aramaic, Jesus says Simon “Bar-Jona.” The use of “Bar-Jona” proves that Jesus was speaking Aramaic. In Aramaic, “Bar” means son, and “Jonah” means John or dove (Holy Spirit).
@@TheWorldTeacher *"Your knowledge is exemplary, Doctor Savage, however intellectual understanding is worthless compared to WISDOM and HOLINESS."* --Ah! The fallacy of Irrelevance. It is irrelevant on whatever your personal opinions towards me are.
@@TheWorldTeacher It is in the Queens English.
@@D0csavage1 .
😂 Laughing from Italy. You have reminded me someway ... the humor of Chesterton 😁😁😁
... Uhm... "Humor" or "humour" in the Queen's English?
@@TheWorldTeacher
Apart from the Trinity, ... Only you can have WISDOM and HOLINESS on this earth ??
If Christ called Peter "Wisdom" instead of "Rock" it would read in Greek: "Thou art Sophus, and upon this sophia [wisdom] I will build my Church."
It has to be changed to "sophus" because it requires a masculine ending to be a name for a man.
It has nothing to do with long lost distinctions in ANOTHER FORM OF GREEK NOT USED IN THE NEW TESTAMENT (not Koine).
Nothing y’all said really had to do with whether the RCC has authority
The 10 that the 'Romans' need to be concerned with isn't the jesus, but the Jupiter
I’m sorry
The Only Power and authority a Church has..is the power and authority people Give to It. I give is none because it has No power or authority of its OWN. Jesus Has the Only True Power and Authority There IS.
To be precise, Holy Trinity has the authority.
Jesus gives authority to a Church (catholic) to spread His Grace and His message.
If He wanted no Church, He would chose to manifest Himself to every single person (like He did with St. Paul).
Anyhow, you are right: people have to *recognize* the authority of the Church, as well as people have to *recognize* the authority of Jesus of Nazareth as the _Word made flesh._
Authority is in Christ alone
who bestowed that authority onto Peter (Matthew 16:18-19)
@@angelicdoctor8016 Only protestants believe they are in direct communication with God, their arrogance is hilarious.
@Paulus Landericus ... but not all His truths.
“Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me; but whoever rejects me rejects him who sent me.”
Luke 10:16 NIV
Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
Matthew 28:18-20 NIV
bible.com/bible/111/mat.28.18-20.NIV
@Paulus Landericus .
*Also Catholics believe that everyone is in direct communication with God.*
Instead, Protestants believe that everything they personally and privately believe about God is infallible. On their personal own infallibility they base their thoughts and their behaviour. Every Protestant has his personal interpretation of the Bible and he thinks it is "the infallible truth".
So, this is not about "communication". This is about "revelation". For Catholics there is One divine Revelation. For Protestants ...there are billions of different (conflicting) revelations.
I really appreciate the gentleness if these two men. However I have left comments on this ascension page before many times and they have not been addressed. I will maybe just go one at a time.
The Greek rendering of Matthew 16 has two different words for Peter and rock. There is a misleading in saying that Peter is a the rock bed when the Greek clearly does not say this. Although there is sincerity within the Catholic Church I believe that it is the idea of a lie being repeated over and over again that eventually becomes the truth. And this is what I mean by that accusation. The word Peter in Greek is petros which does not mean rock bed or foundation stone or anything that you would build a foundation on. It means small stone. And Jesus goes on to say...” you are Peter (Petras - small stone ) and upon this rock ( Petra - rock cliff or boulder ) I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. 2 points
1. I believe Jesus is referring to Isaiah 44:8 Fear not, nor be afraid;
have I not told you from of old and declared it?
And you are my witnesses!
Is there a God besides me?
There is no Rock; I know not any."
2. Often people seem to look at this passage and think that somehow the gates of hell are beating down on the universal church and that somehow the church will survive this onslaught from the gates of hell. This can not be the case gates are a means of defence. It is hell and it’s gates that will not be able to withstand what the church does.
A little leaven leaves all. Peter was not the first Pope. The other apostles had same authority . Paul rebuked Peter. Peter was not apostle to the Jews only. Paul mission was for the gentiles, that peter never understood.
I did not learn anything
before Jesus died on the cross he saved a thief who was on the other side of him the thief was saved proving that you can not be good enough to get into heaven. the only way to the father is thru Jesus Christ. jesus is the only way to heaven.
You are correct in that God works thru sinful people. But I don’t see how that supports the authority that the Catholic Church claims to have. Where does it say in the Scriptures that God will give a visible Authoritative Church? So far from studies this claim of the RCC seems to just be a self claim without any concrete backing.
God wants a visible church, Matthew 5:14-16
You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a basket. Instead, they set it on a lampstand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.…
God wants an authoritative church,
2 Corinthians 13:10
For this reason I am writing these things while absent, so that when present I need not use severity, in accordance with the authority which the Lord gave me for building up and not for tearing down.
2 Corinthians 10:8
For even if I boast somewhat further about our authority, which the Lord gave for building you up and not for destroying you, I will not be put to shame
1 Thessalonians 4:2
For you know what commandments we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:12
But we request of you, brethren, that you appreciate those who diligently labor among you, and have charge over you in the Lord and give you instruction
I always think that Fr. Mark-Mary is saying "F the po po 👮♂️👮♀️" when he finishes his videos.
To deny the papacy is equal to deny the meaning of the diciples.
To deny the meaning of the diciples is equal to deny apostolic sucession.
To deny apostolic sucession is equal to deny the mission of a christian.
To deny the mission of a christian is to deny the decision of Christ to whom he chose to feed his sheep.
Authority lies with Christ.
In which Christ chose Peter.
And since the death of Peter the keys had to be passed from pope to pope.
But the papacy is nulified if the pope is a heretic.
No reformation of modernist filth will ever change this.
The teacher chooses him among the apostles to be one of witnesses (next to two or three others) of the resurrection of the daughter of Jairus (Mk 5,37; Lk 8,51) of his transfiguration (Mk 9,2-3 ), of his agony (Mk 14,33, Mt 23,37), to prepare the last supper (Lk 22,8): Peter, then, is always part of this
group and like the first. He will also be, among the twelve, the first witness of the resurrection (Lc 24,12-34; 1Cor 15,5).
It is an effective authority, formally recognized or conferred from the beginning. The evangelists, in appointing the apostles in order, and in indicating the one in charge of them, do not fail to indicate the defects of Peter. His choice is not due to his own merits, nor to his impulsive or enterprising character nor to a more ardent faith. In fact, it is he who wins the reproach: "Man of little faith, why have you doubted?" (Mt 14,31). He himself, the day of his inauguration, takes the hardest of the reprimands: "Behind me, Satan, you are a stone of scandal to me, because your feelings are not those of God, but those of men" (Mt 16 , 23, Mc
8.33). He is the first one to whom Jesus washes his feet at dinner (Jn 13:10); he will be the most guilty with Judas, because he will deny Christ three times (Mt 26,34,58-75).
Long live the church of Christ the christian catholic church.
God bless.
The pope very recently said you don't have to believe to be saved. He told a young boy his dad was accepted by Jesus, because he had his son confirmed. Being in Italy living in Rome, it's pretty standard a practice, like non Christians, baptize infants in the UK.
Considering the pope doesn't believe the bible, and doesn't care that the Holy Spirit testifies with the spirit of the believer, that he is saved and not because he decided they are, then he has no authority, apart from the Lord allowing him to cause corruption to his word and lead all of you to believe him over the authority of the Bible.
How does the pope have a heart to lie about salvation, that you can be anything and say you believe in God or not believe in God and as long as you weren't to bad then your God's child.?
Its likely that he doesn't have the Holy spirt or know God at all, which is why he's building a church claiming universal salvation for all. JOHN CHAPTER 17.
I have no authority but God and his word. Do not consider the authority of a man that Cannot tell the truth.
@@jkvarley8443 you went a little easy on em..but you did good.
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So the authority of Christ that the catholic church claims, comes from petras...petros...okie dokie. Seems like one would want something a little more clear than that...?
Only the LORD God has authority, not the Catholic Church! The Catholic Church has corrupted the Christian Church. ... And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. Revelation 18:4-5
That's right. Jesus Christ was given full authority of heaven and earth. When you are given authority like the Father gave to His Son, you can delegate that authority. Jesus gave His authority to the Catholic Church (Apostles) and made the bishop of Rome His vicar on earth. With that authority, the Apostles ordained the priests and deacons and gave permission for the priests to hear confessions. It took me a long time for me to see the authority of the Catholic Church in scripture. I'm thankful that Jesus Christ was patient with me and kept drawing me to His Catholic Church. Once I did, I saw all the doctrines in Scripture that I previously thought was unbiblical.
Joe mama
How can an organization that claims to be the one true christian church, have so many practices and beliefs rooted in paganism? Quit preaching catholic lore and accept Jesus.
If Christ had said to Peter “you are Petros and on you I will build my church”, that would have been clear.
But instead Christ said you are Petros and on “this Petra” I will build my church. Which even among an assessment by a French Roman Catholic of church fathers showed there were several interpretations; 17 thought Peter was the rock, 44 that Peter’s confession of Christ as the Son of God is the the Rock.
Several scriptures tell us Christ is the Rock(1 Corinthians 10:4), He is the “Rock of offense” that those who believe in Him will not be put to shame(Romans 9:33), His sayings are the Rock the wise man builds his life on(Matt 7:24/25), Jesus is the foundation(1 Corinthians 3:11) of the Body(which is the Church).
So when looking at Matthew 16 and Ephesians 2:20 it’s more likely that the confession of Jesus as the Christ was the Rock that Jesus would build His church on.
Remember Christ said He knew what was in man. Why would He build His church on a human man inclined to rebellion. He turned right around and called Peter “Satan” right after saying He would build His church on “this rock”. Also He knew Peter would deny Him shortly after and be hypocritical and cause division in the Body.
Jesus doesn’t need to build His church on the faulty foundation of man. He builds His church of Himself and the proclaimed truth of Himself.
It is His Word which will endure and never pass away and He is the Word made flesh.
He is the Rock.
I would just point you to the New Jerusalem as described in Revelation 21:14 where the 12 foundation stones of the city are inscribed with the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. This seems to suggest that Christ establishes his kingdom and therefore his Church on apostolic foundations. With respect to the primacy of Peter among the apostles, why did Jesus in that moment decide to change Simon Bar-Jona's name to a word that also means rock? The New Testament was written in Greek but Jesus most likely did not speak these words to his apostles in Greek. He probably said them in Aramaic. Does your argument hold true in the original Aramaic spoken by Jesus? As some have suggested in other comments, one reason for the discrepancy can be a desire to use a masculine word which means rock to refer to Peter, a man, so that grammatical gender and his actual gender match up. That seems to only make sense.
The church has always entertained the interpretation that Peter's confession of faith is the rock upon which the Church is built, but it remains PETER'S confession of faith. Why did God, the Father, give only Peter that word with which to respond to Jesus' question? Furthermore, the argument is not just centered on whether or not Peter is the rock and what kind of rock he is. Jesus goes on to give Peter the keys to kingdom and grant him the power to bind and to loose - a power which he later also grants to the apostles collectively, but which he seems here to be granting Peter singularly. This points toward Peter being given a primacy among the apostles.
We always have to be careful with our interpretation of metaphors - making sure we read them as saying what they intend to say and nothing more, nothing less. To say that Peter is the rock is not to deny that Christ is also the rock and a much stronger and more fundamental rock at that. He is the stone rejected by the builders which has become the cornerstone. Without him, there can be no Church. However, that does not mean that we cannot say that in their own way Peter and the apostles are foundation stones upon which the Church is built. Christ has appointed them to this office and scripture read in its totality says as much. Peter's status derives from Christ's commission and grace. It is not parasitic upon or mutually exclusive with respect to Christ's status in his own Church. It is not something Peter has of himself apart from God. Don't read it that way.
The Father revealed to Peter who Christ was and moments later Jesus rebuked Peter for not being mindful of the things of God:
“But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.””
Matthew 16:23 NKJV
In one moment our Lord calls Peter, “Petros”, and in another He calls him “Satanas”.
Peter never interpreted Jesus as giving him a primacy among the apostles. Peter writes that he is a “fellow elder”.
“The elders who are among you I exhort, I who am a fellow elder and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that will be revealed:”
I Peter 5:1 NKJV
While it’s true that the apostles were the foundation for which the church was built, the ONLY stone laid as the foundation with primacy is the “chief cornerstone”... and that’s Christ. The rest of the apostles are all equal as they professed the Gospel of Christ in fulfilling the Great Commission.
It’s not remarkable for God to change someone’s name. Believers who overcome are all going to get a new name from the Lord:
““He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give some of the hidden manna to eat. And I will give him a white stone, and on the stone a new name written which no one knows except him who receives it. ” ’”
Revelation 2:17 NKJV
@@sanctifiedbytruth6048 Surely it isn't uncommon for God (or an encounter with God) to change someone's name, but whenever God gives someone a new name that isn't random or meaningless. When one receives a new name from God, it suggests that he has given that one a special mission or role to play in salvation history. Abram's name changes to Abraham. God establishes a covenant with him and he becomes the father of descendants that number as the stars. Jacob struggles with the angel and receives a blessing along with the new name Israel. He becomes the father of a whole nation through his twelve sons. Saul's name is changed to Paul after his encounter with the risen Christ, and he totally changes his life becoming the apostle to the gentiles. Is Jesus' new name for Simon meaningless? Did this renaming also correspond to him being given a particular role and mission in the Church? Scripture seems to bare witness to the fact that when God changes your name, it means something.
@@sanctifiedbytruth6048 As it says in Romans 11:29, the gifts and call of God are irrevocable. Our sinful ways and our tendency not to trust God's word and submit to him does not revoke his call to each and everyone of us to live a Christian life as his sons and daughters in his love. Similarly, Peter's sin does not revoke the fact that God has called him to a particular office and mission in the Church. We can all be "Satanas" at times - refusing to conform to God's will and clinging to our own way - but God does not take back his gifts from us; neither does he take them back from Peter. Additionally, one key difference to note is that Peter is actually Simon's new name. That's what people including Jesus call him from that point on. He calls him Satan in that one instant. He names him Peter, but calls him Satan. One is permanent and the other is momentary. Therefore, how we weigh those names in reference to the person of Simon Peter and who he is has to be different. One may mean more than the other.
I really think it's a stretch to claim that Peter never saw himself as having any primacy among the apostles. To my knowledge, we don't have any record of Peter saying anything outright on the matter. We are left then to build arguments for or against based on the evidence. One big piece of evidence is what Jesus has to say about it. We can also look at what the New Testament records about him and how hierarchy solidified in the days of the early Church. To bring it to modern times, the popes often refer to priests and bishops as 'brother priests' and 'brother bishops' and to Christians generally as 'fellow workers in the vineyard of the Lord'. If Peter has primacy among the apostles, he has to be one of them and necessarily the other apostles are his 'fellows'. In fact on some level, all Christians are his 'fellows' in as much as we share fellowship in the Lord.
Some people seem to think that if Peter really had primacy there should be some record of him lording his power over the apostles and strong-arming them, and since there isn't any clear evidence that Peter did these things he must not have had primacy. I find that a preposterous argument. The exercise of authority in the Church cannot be about pulling ranks and making others fell the weight of one's power. In that same discourse in 1 Peter 5, Peter exhorts pastors not to lord their authority over the flock but to give it a shepherd's care. Interestingly, Peter seems to be addressing his fellow elders with some amount of authority. Some people like to also point out St. Paul's open disagreement with Peter when he refrained from eating with gentiles out of fear that the Christians of Jewish origin would not approve. As I read it, Paul's open challenge to Peter is not irreconcilable with Peter's supremacy. Our leaders in the Christian Church are not sinless and sometimes do need to rebuked or corrected. Primacy is not a guarantee of perfection nor does it imply that one cannot be called out when one is in the wrong.
I still have to disagree with you. Peter was given primacy among the apostles by Christ. I really do believe scripture and history attest to that.
Gents, the whole issue here is that you and I do not follow or believe in the same Creator God. You all venerate and pray to Mary and believe that the Pope is some sort of divinely ordered office. This is all a great mistake to imagine that you and I are both followers and believers of the same Jesus. We are not. Your god, is this world, that is why your church is so worldly... founded in this world its authority in based in this world. Peter didn't give the Roman Church anything... The Emperor Justinian granted your church its authority in a temporal sense. No other authority has ever been granted to your church.
Parents are now advised never to leave their children alone when religious priests are around. Sorry guys, but unlimited access to children is over.
Thankfully in the UK the majority of people have no left religion behind.
Mamma told me that Communion is Jesus.
The only thing to understand is how wrong this pagan church is.
Bullsht!