Christmas in China?

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  • Опубліковано 26 гру 2024

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  • @TSYCh-f9g
    @TSYCh-f9g 2 дні тому +52

    China is the most inclusive country. All religions can live together in harmony.

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  2 дні тому +10

      Quite incredible really. Substantial Buddhist, Christian and Muslim population with many other religions as well. Why so harmonious do you think?

    • @TSYCh-f9g
      @TSYCh-f9g 2 дні тому +15

      @@TobysTakeaway China has a long history of more than 5,000 years, with a long history of culture. And deeply influenced by Confucian culture. Chinese culture is open and inclusive.
      1st, ‌ China respects freedom of religious belief ‌. The Constitution clearly stipulates that "citizens of the People's Republic of China enjoy freedom of religious belief" ‌. This means that citizens have the freedom to practice their religion or not, and that this freedom is protected by law.
      2nd, ‌ freedom of religious belief in China is based on a profound historical and cultural tradition ‌. Chinese culture values peace, seeks common ground while shelving differences, and is tolerant of religion. In the process of development, all religions have always integrated with the fine traditional Chinese culture and adapted to the actual needs of social development ‌. This kind of cultural tradition makes religion have its unique position and function in Chinese society.
      Moreover, China has 56 ethnic groups, each with its own culture and beliefs, and some even have its own language. But all ethnic groups can live together in harmony. All these reflect the openness and inclusiveness of Chinese culture.

    • @nuo.not1033
      @nuo.not1033 2 дні тому

      ​@@TobysTakeaway Because the government owns the gun! And I tell you there can't be 70 million Christians in China. If that were true, some people would be quite alarmed! Please do not try to understand Chinese people with religious thinking, because believers of other sects except Muslims are very easy to betray their faith!

    • @bbq222888
      @bbq222888 2 дні тому

      ​@@TobysTakeawayChina's 56 ethnic groups can also live in harmony because we are accustomed to respecting the cultures and beliefs of different ethnic groups, and the Chinese have always been very tolerant of religion, believing that what teaches people to be good is a good religion

    • @Anonymous------
      @Anonymous------ День тому

      ​@@TobysTakeaway
      People of different religions and races can coexist peacefully in China because the government doesn't allow hateful propaganda by one religion or a race on others like those in U5A.

  • @JojoAng-kv6kf
    @JojoAng-kv6kf 2 дні тому +19

    GODBLESS CHINA ... HALELUYAH 😊❤🎉

    • @Anonymous------
      @Anonymous------ День тому

      Atheist China is more moral, decent and peaceful than religious nations such as U5A and Hindia.

    • @Mingo101onTiktok
      @Mingo101onTiktok День тому

      So Jesus is not going to bring war to China

  • @MX-po6sk
    @MX-po6sk 2 дні тому +10

    My mother-in-law is a Christian in China, last year I took my son to visit her and filmed inside the church. Actually there were so many people using their phones to take photos videos.

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  День тому +1

      What city was that? Same here in Chengdu

    • @MX-po6sk
      @MX-po6sk День тому +1

      @ it was Quanzhou, in Fujian province.

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  День тому +1

      @@MX-po6sk nice one, love Quanzhou been there twice this year

  • @GoodGood-vb8gm
    @GoodGood-vb8gm День тому +5

    Mosques and religious schools in Malaysia also have to registered with the government and also to be supervised and monitored. In Singapore, house-to-house preaching is not allowed. Do you wish Buddhist monks knocking at your door and want to share with you the wisdom of the Buddha or Muslims preaching to your kids in school trying to convert them to Islam?

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  10 годин тому

      @@GoodGood-vb8gm good point, as a said in the video I think that’s quite common in a lot of countries. We used to have Jehovah’s Witnesses come knock on our front door…

  • @George-k6o9t
    @George-k6o9t 3 дні тому +10

    We have former Christian churches here in Sydney and Melbourne, Australia that have been converted to cafes and restaurants and some, even taken over and turned into mosques.
    Hong Kong is China and they do celebrate Christmas in that island (speaking from family members I have there who are leaders in their Christian church movement). Does this count?

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  3 дні тому +3

      Yes, of course! That’s interesting, I saw the same in the UK, both Nottingham and Leeds have churches that are now bars. I’m sure there are more.

    • @George-k6o9t
      @George-k6o9t 3 дні тому +7

      @@TobysTakeaway So, it is a bit incongruous of Western Media to pick on China if and when a few former old churches are torn down and replaced by either a new building or a shopping mall,, when they, the West has been doing the same for a very long time, right?
      As has been so often said, "when you point a finger at someone, remember there are 4 others pointing back at yourself". Consequently, we all have be careful when criticizing others that we are not guilty ourselves of doing the same or even worse.
      By the way, a vast quantity and range of Christmas decorations are Made in China these days, For a country that is accused of being "anti-religion", it is somewhat ironic that it should be the World's top manufacturer and producer of Christmas (plus Easter and Halloween) trinkets, costumes and toys for export to the World.

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  3 дні тому +2

      @@George-k6o9t Ha, point well made! I think various sticks are used to beat China. Anti Religion is perhaps just one. There were two reasons for this video: 1) My Own Curiosity and 2) To show people that China and especially Sichuan, Chengdu is a very open society that is welcoming to new people and ideas. Amongst all the negativity thrown this way it is nice to show the many positives here. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

    • @George-k6o9t
      @George-k6o9t 2 дні тому +1

      @@TobysTakeaway Have a Happy Christmas (Christ-Mass) and a Prosperous and Most of All, Safe New Year in 2025.

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  2 дні тому +1

      @ Thanks George. And the same to you and your family! Happy holidays and a prosperous new year! Stay Safe😉

  • @BabarRajpoot-c3u
    @BabarRajpoot-c3u День тому +1

    God bless you brother

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  День тому

      Many thanks🙏 . Wishing you a health and happy 2025

  • @TobysTakeaway
    @TobysTakeaway  3 дні тому +6

    Are you allowed to Celebrate Christmas in China? Love to hear from anyone in China or who has spent time in China

    • @littlefishking
      @littlefishking 2 дні тому

      Most people in China do not care about Christmas, let alone ban it. Christmas is just a day for young people to go out for meals and dates, and for businesses to sell.

    • @xihangyang
      @xihangyang 2 дні тому

      i do belueve church of england are being banned since the head of the church is the king but he also head of state. china have strick religion and church sepperation.

    • @rd-kb2rm
      @rd-kb2rm 2 дні тому

      Stop talking nonsense you know why they register churches in China and it's for the sole purpose of control of narrative and to keep in line with the communist doctrine and thts why you cut the service extremely short. Not all people are stupid bro

    • @seangaun
      @seangaun День тому +2

      What so great dude? Is Chinese New year and Muslim festival allowed at your country?

    • @angelamen8495
      @angelamen8495 День тому +2

      Of course we celebrate Christmas in China, it’s just not an official holiday

  • @eliso5973
    @eliso5973 2 дні тому +7

    Chinese do celebrate Christmas, just go to shopping malls and you can feel it right the way.

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  2 дні тому +1

      Indeed! The commercial side or Christmas is very much alive and well in China. Was interesting to see the other aspects as well this time

    • @slevinlindsay3624
      @slevinlindsay3624 День тому +1

      @@TobysTakeaway christmas marketing (including christmas carols) in the west is top tier. i'm not surprised the rest of the world wants to get in on it. the lights, the decorations, the warm and fuzzy feels, the lot.

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  День тому +1

      @@slevinlindsay3624 True that

  • @jackielee224
    @jackielee224 2 дні тому +7

    Merry Christmas everyone 🎅🏻🎄🎁

  • @xiangyangzhang2286
    @xiangyangzhang2286 День тому +2

    In fact, in China, only traditional festivals are official holidays, but this does not prevent people, especially young people, from celebrating Western festivals. It's freedom

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  День тому +1

      Yes, great to have a mixture of traditional and western festivals. Can’t have official holidays for them all, nobody would ever work😂

  • @quantum9571
    @quantum9571 День тому +2

    English Kings wanted Church of England or Anglican to be independent from Vatican, which is the same way that Chinese elite/government want to do too. Religious sovereignty.

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  10 годин тому

      @@quantum9571 Indeed although if you look for the earliest reason (s) for that it was also so that Henry 8th could remarry many many times😂

    • @quantum9571
      @quantum9571 8 годин тому +1

      @@TobysTakeaway Yes quite interesting history. Speaking of that, Chinese first got to know Christianity around 600s as 景教 or Nestorian from Persia and middle east. So the concept of Jesus and monotheistic religion are not new to them. Basically some Chinese already have seen it and done that around the same time in the early Middle age when Christianity was spreading out in Europe. The difference was that Chinese already had a very strong tradition of Confucian belief rooted in secularism and was in the process of digesting Buddhism, so not much of religious vacuum for Christianity, unlike then Europeans with mostly paganism as different tribes migrated into Western Europe and Rome.

    • @haniahannslew4108
      @haniahannslew4108 Годину тому

      Exactly! The vatican wants to use religion to country other countries. That is a no no.

  • @seangaun
    @seangaun День тому +5

    So what if no celebration Christmas in China? What so great celebration Christmas but never ending war by 🇺🇸 Israel 🇮🇱 Christians against other countries

    • @Anonymous------
      @Anonymous------ День тому

      Brutal European colonists were Christians!

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  День тому +1

      I appreciate you taking the time to comment but that really has nothing to do with the video…

    • @seangaun
      @seangaun День тому

      @TobysTakeaway hope u realise the Anglo saxons n 🇺🇸 lies on China all the time. Glad u know the truth

    • @haniahannslew4108
      @haniahannslew4108 Годину тому

      I tollay agree with your comment. It makes total sense and show the hypocrisy of the west.

  • @simplytheguest8455
    @simplytheguest8455 2 дні тому +4

    Not many people from western countries would celebrate Xmas if it wasn't a day off work. And a paid day off work. A paid few days off work. If u had to take the days off using your own holidays. I can assure you. Xmas wouldn't even be a thing in the west. And even when they do celebrate. Majority people celebrate as a family get together and exchange of presents followed by boxing day sales.

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  2 дні тому +1

      Well half of that is true I think. The part about a family gathering and so on. That’s what a lot of festivals are now these days for example thanksgiving in North America and Spring Festival in China. For most people it’s not necessarily giving thanks or welcoming in the new year, it’s a time to get away from work and spend quality time with family.

    • @haniahannslew4108
      @haniahannslew4108 56 хвилин тому

      Exactly. I totally agree. I live in north america and see that most people don't really celebrate xmas. People just take advantage of the holidays time for familty gathering or travelling together as a family. That is the only time for most families to travel together.

  • @kclim9802
    @kclim9802 День тому +1

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @sarahlee9979
    @sarahlee9979 2 дні тому +1

    Celebrating Christ's birthday and "xmas" (Santa Clause, gifts) are two different things.
    The former is a religious thing (going to mass 12/24 before midnight), latter is a culture festivity.
    Similarly, Christ's passing and "Easter Bunny" (chocolate eggs) are two different things.
    For example, should (Chinese) Muslim celebrate Christ's birthday? Though, I'm sure they do enjoy the festivity vibe of Santa.

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  День тому +1

      Good point. That’s why I showed both the church and the commercial side of it. What is interesting is not forcing people to celebrate a festival but allowing different cultures festivals. I think a lot of people will be surprised that you can celebrate Christmas and other festivals in China.

  • @HerbertLin-y2l
    @HerbertLin-y2l День тому +1

    i think most western celebrate chirstmas commercially in China it is not that commercial yet

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  День тому

      Certainly not on the level of say Britain, that is true.

  • @davepsk7334
    @davepsk7334 2 дні тому +1

    Why does it seem much more Christmasy than here??

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  2 дні тому +2

      Where are you? I guess in Shanghai and Beijing there would be even more Christmas events

  • @edie930
    @edie930 3 дні тому +8

    A west say china ban Christmas

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  3 дні тому +4

      It’s great to see people are free to celebrate Christmas in China

    • @GoodGood-vb8gm
      @GoodGood-vb8gm День тому

      Westerners are gullible sponges without mental power to have independent thinking. They believe "China bans religions".

  • @Bai420-h2k
    @Bai420-h2k 17 годин тому

    I wish Korea would put Christmas on the ballot so that the world holiday is in Asia

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  10 годин тому

      @@Bai420-h2k do they celebrate Christmas in Korea?

  • @samyang5873
    @samyang5873 День тому +2

    Actually , Christianity is not a "Western or White Religion" , Jesus is not White but Middle Eastern.

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  День тому +1

      Indeed, it was just interesting to see that Christians are free to worship in China

  • @AaronSutton-fj2oz
    @AaronSutton-fj2oz День тому +1

    More than 100 million house churches members it is estimated

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  День тому +1

      As many as that? Wow!

    • @BirdTom1998
      @BirdTom1998 16 годин тому

      @@TobysTakeaway Wrong, I am Chinese, from the south to the north, I have worked and studied in four or five provinces in China, even Buddhists and believers of local religions are less than 100 million in a strict sense. If we use similar standards, Christian believers will not exceed 20 million, or even less. Christmas is a cultural experience for many people in cities, and a good marketing opportunity for businesses. Most people in cities like to feel the Christmas atmosphere and a few people understand Christianity or believers and celebrate Christmas.

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  10 годин тому

      @@BirdTom1998 does seem like an overestimate, perhaps total but I’d be surprised if even that number was correct, let alone in house churches, but of course their very nature we will never know exactly how many members there are

    • @BirdTom1998
      @BirdTom1998 5 годин тому

      @@TobysTakeaway 我用中文回复下,you can use google translate, i think it do a good job。
      中国大陆地区信仰基督教的人主要是三部分组成:
      1 东南沿海地区的人(占比最多),例如广东,福建,因为贫穷和战乱,过去几百年沿海地区有很多人去国外谋生,
      他们带着财富回家时有一部分也带回了他们对基督教的认知;
      2 乡村或者小城市的老人,他们一般是受街上传教的广告或者自己的亲朋好友影响;
      3 精英人士中的少部分,多见于法律和经济领域,因为西方经济学和法律思想对他们影响很大;
      4 16-19世纪有很多欧洲传教士来中国传教或者担任政府官员和皇帝的顾问,从早期的天主教到后来的新教等。所以全国各地建了一些教堂,这自然也影响了一些人;
      但总的来说不会超过2000万,我查了粗略的资料,显示中国大陆大约有3亿信仰各种宗教的人士,其中佛教+道教超过60%,我认为这很份统计不够严格。
      我认为严格意义上 所有宗教 的信徒在国内不超过1亿, 甚至更少。很多人都像我一样,在有儒释道文化氛围的电影电视剧,小说中长大,也去过城市里的教堂和清真寺,每年年末穿梭在城市里圣诞氛围的商业街,可能认为 现代社会 宗教的职能越来越偏向于文化属性了。

  • @18沈天成
    @18沈天成 2 дні тому +4

    歐美的聖誕樹大部分是中國製造

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  2 дні тому +2

      就是!你把视频看完,真真的圣诞老人在中国😂

  • @samyang5873
    @samyang5873 День тому

    Chinese do not expect you to celebrate Chinese New Year , so do not expect or question why Chinese do not celebrate Christmas. Understand ? 明白吗 ? If you think deep enough , people in China enjoy real freedom & safety that the west or your country can only dream of. Greetings from S'pore 🍻

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  День тому +1

      @@samyang5873 Merry Christmas Sam. The point is really whether or not you are allowed to celebrate Christmas in China and I think this video answers that question. Greetings from Chengdu😉

  • @richies7977
    @richies7977 День тому +1

    二医院旁恩光堂???????

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  День тому +1

      没错,你怎么晓得?

    • @richies7977
      @richies7977 День тому

      @ 我一跳蹬河土著,岂会不知?😎😎😎

  • @jacintochua6885
    @jacintochua6885 День тому +1

    Chritnas is not a major hokuday for most Chinese. Only Christians celebrate.,whats wrong about thar?
    D9nt spread smears and lies. Christmas are allowed to celebrated. Westerners celebrate but do they attend church services ? Cekebrating is not worshipping, What about church worship ? Many westerners don't attend church services . Don't make unverified statements.

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  10 годин тому

      @@jacintochua6885 what “smears and lies” did I spread?

  • @nuo.not1033
    @nuo.not1033 2 дні тому

    I am one of the 72% of atheists in China. I do not understand nor respect but accept Chinese religious believers because this is what the law requires of me! But please do not do any proselytizing to me, because that is what the law requires of you!
    Most of the Chinese people who celebrate Christmas are young lovers. Christmas is like an alternative Valentine's Day. It is a spending trap created by Chinese women and businessmen for men!

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  День тому +3

      I don’t think most Chinese people call themselves atheists. Certainly here in Sichuan most people would describe themselves as something like a non practicing Buddhist. So occasional temple visits connected more to cultural festivals rather than religious beliefs

    • @mr.punkie5872
      @mr.punkie5872 День тому

      @@nuo.not1033 stop coping bro China will be the next Vatican watch 🤣

    • @lulu-wt7pj
      @lulu-wt7pj День тому

      神经、无知、法盲,请你去读宪法三十六条和刑法二百五十一条!

  • @chuanzonghuang1858
    @chuanzonghuang1858 День тому +2

    雖然你說了很多真話,但這並不能改變西方人對中國的固有看法。事實上生活在國內的中國人不太在意西方人的看法,許多觀念只是西方的一廂情願而已。

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  День тому

      @@chuanzonghuang1858 人是很难改变的,其实我就是看到什么拍到什么,别人相信/改变他们的想法是他们的事,我管不到。我就是一个不一样的声音而已。

    • @chuanzonghuang1858
      @chuanzonghuang1858 День тому

      @@TobysTakeaway 謝謝你!

    • @TobysTakeaway
      @TobysTakeaway  День тому

      @@chuanzonghuang1858 不用谢,应该的

    • @odyssey327
      @odyssey327 26 хвилин тому

      说得太好了🙏