Frenchy Reacts to The Fat Electrician - THE THING

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  • @ToonStory-fh4gn
    @ToonStory-fh4gn  4 місяці тому +9

    I hope you enjoyed it, don't hesitate to suggest other videos you'd like me to react to :)

    • @ripvanwinkle2002
      @ripvanwinkle2002 4 місяці тому +2

      recoilless rifle...
      simple terms
      its a cannon that shoots as much gas out the back as it does out the front so there is no recoil
      so you get a cannon the size of a tank gun that you can bolt to a jeep..
      does that help?
      so each bazooka( i know it aint a bazooka save the comments) has a spotting gun. the guns bullets are designed to fly the EXACT arc the cannon round will fly
      so where the bullet goes the cannon will hit.
      so they fire the rifle till they see the tracer hit the target, they flip a switch and now the 106mm cannon fires and hits the same spot..

    • @nicholasjasonprasetyo7407
      @nicholasjasonprasetyo7407 4 місяці тому

      Hey man, I'm a fan of your videos since the first Napoleon epic history reaction you did.
      I would like to suggest some early modern and seven years war era videos made by Historymarche, particularly the Battle of Fontenoy.
      And maybe even the many battles involving the Ottomans and the numerous crusades by the Holy League.
      Thank you, and keep it up 👍

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  4 місяці тому

      ​@@nicholasjasonprasetyo7407 Hey! Thanks for the support. Yeah I'd like to talk about the 7 Year War , and other eras as well. The siege of Vienna and the Crusades too! Fontenoy is quite interesting and I like History Marche a lot, great recommandation :)

    • @ninjabearpress2574
      @ninjabearpress2574 3 місяці тому +1

      The Fat Electrician's USS O'Bannon video will always be my favorite, but they're all good.

    • @phildicks4721
      @phildicks4721 2 місяці тому

      You should reavt to the Fat Electrician talking about the Bat Bomb of WWII. If it ever made it to actual battle use it would have made Dresden and the Tokyo Fire Bombing of 1944 look like a Boy Scout Campfire.

  • @WoosterCogburnn
    @WoosterCogburnn 4 місяці тому +23

    Nick has a great video on Sgt Reckless, the story of America’s war horse. The bazooka tank made me think about it. She carried those recoiless rifle rounds while she was under fire during the battle for outpost Vegas, during the Korean War. One of the best stories I’ve ever heard!

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  4 місяці тому +14

      Ah yes, I need to react to this one as well! Thanks!

    • @ShaneH5150
      @ShaneH5150 4 місяці тому +7

      ​@@ToonStory-fh4gnthis one is top tier imo. Very wholesome and a great display of compassion and loyalty

    • @Plastikdoom
      @Plastikdoom 4 місяці тому +3

      @@ToonStory-fh4gnit’s great video, Sgt Reckless was carrying 75mm recoiless rounds, the smaller brother to these monsters, but worked the same way.

  • @libertyman3729
    @libertyman3729 4 місяці тому +14

    We took them on patrol with us or used them on perimeter watch. Fast as hell, They had a Chevy V-8 and a governor to keep the top speed in check but of course that was disconnected a.s.a.p. Very versatile piece of equipment. Semper Fidelis.

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  4 місяці тому +4

      Yeah, I saw they were damn quick so they can create havoc and move quickly somewhere else to do the exact same thing... A nightmare for the enemy

    • @ripvanwinkle2002
      @ripvanwinkle2002 4 місяці тому +1

      Semper FI
      0331

  • @olibertosoto5470
    @olibertosoto5470 4 місяці тому +9

    This one is right up there with the firebomb bats idea.

    • @lonelytraveler6335
      @lonelytraveler6335 4 місяці тому +3

      And both are connected to the Marines.

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  4 місяці тому +2

      Looks like I have another wonderful story to discover here :)

    • @olibertosoto5470
      @olibertosoto5470 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ToonStory-fh4gn Yes indeed! Creativity goes for good and for bad 👍🏼

  • @lizwiz2779
    @lizwiz2779 4 місяці тому +6

    HAHAHAHA the LOOK on your face at 00:36 SECONDS is absolutely PRICELESS EH!🍁🍁🍁🍁

  • @Anarcho-harambeism
    @Anarcho-harambeism 4 місяці тому +7

    One of the issues with larger tanks in vietnam is weight. The m48 patton could "jungle bust", knocking down trees, but couldnt go everywhere. But a very light platform like the ontos allowed it to cross makeshift bridges or not damage the ones there previously. Though the armor could only stop small arms. Meaning anything .50cal or larger would pen.

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  3 місяці тому

      Thank you! Indeed I am no expert in weapons, or tank warfare but I still assume that tanks are very vulnerable and they need other arms to cover them especially on such theaters of operation

    • @pyro1047
      @pyro1047 3 місяці тому

      ​@@ToonStory-fh4gn Usually they'd be used on Patrols with an infantry unit screening and covering the tanks If I recall Correctly, so infantry would guard the tanks flanks while other infantry would be out ahead and upon making contact with the enemy; the tank/tanks would stroll up and break apart the ambush. They were Also used as convoy escorts, to break up any VC ambushes occurring in transit. And yes, the NVA and Vietcong had locally produced RPG-2's called B40's which could bounce off on a glancing blow, but a good straight on hit was pretty much guaranteed to penetrate the tank.
      M48's were also used to protect firebases, being dug in and guarding parts of the perimeter on whatever hill the firebase was built on from their tank fighting positions (Basically just a trench with a drive way down into it, so a tank could drive into, guard, and fight from that position; think of it as like a foxhole but for a tank. And all with mostly, only their turret exposed [Front turret armor is usually the thickest and most protected armor on a tank, at least US ones] and most of if not all of the hull hidden and protected down in the trench [Also known as fighting "Hull Down", which applies whenever you hide the hull and only peak your turret up when firing, such as peaking the crest of a hill, etc.]).
      Interestingly, the M113 APC would also start to "Jungle Bust" as well with "ACAV" Kits installed and were a massive upgrade in a fight. It mounted a gun shield and protective turret around the commanders .50cal M2 Browning HMG on his hatch, plus an additional two M60 7.62 MMG/GPMG with one on each side of the APC mounted on hatches, plus an additional crew member added as a grenadier with a 40mm M79 Grenade Launcher (Single Shot, break action like a shotgun but shooting 40mm NATO grenades instead). These ACAV M113's would partially inspire the M2 Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle, and M3 Bradley Calvary Fighting Vehicles; especially noticeable with the earlier rejected XM800T prototypes submitted.
      P.S. The M60 MBT existed during the Vietnam War, but as the Soviet Union and all their tanks in East Germany were seen as the biggest threat if WW3 broke out; all the M60's for US units were sent to and reserved for Europe, so tankers went to Vietnam with their older M48's as their main medium/heavy Pre-MBT-MBT tank instead.

  • @JaxMerrick
    @JaxMerrick 4 місяці тому +5

    7:59 that is the look of "my brother in Christ, that has to be a war crime".

    • @leechowning2712
      @leechowning2712 4 місяці тому +1

      See "intentionally creating horrific wounds", "intentionally destroying bodies", and "excessive damage to surrounding civillian infrastructure"...

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  4 місяці тому +2

      hahaha yes, you don't wanna know what kind of images went through my mind 😂

    • @JaxMerrick
      @JaxMerrick 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ToonStory-fh4gn I'm thinking minced meat...or would that be ground Chuc?

    • @OriginalLictre
      @OriginalLictre 8 днів тому

      @@ToonStory-fh4gn The flechette rounds do not individually create horrific wounds, any more than an arrow of equal speed would. They are not medically difficult to detect or remove, and they are not intentionally poisoned or made to carry infectious material. When used in artillery with a high arc, the beehive round is explosively opened at a high enough altitude that the flechettes achieve stability, rather than tumbling, and spread out over a wide area, which would reduce the number of them that might hit any specific occupant of that area. When fired more parallel to the ground, the results would be more concentrated, but many of the flechettes would wind up either going into the ground, or above the occupied areas.
      The Ontos was feared because the guns were devastating, so every time the Viet Cong retreated or just decided not to attack when they were seen near that battleground, lives were saved on both sides of the fight.

  • @theblackbear211
    @theblackbear211 4 місяці тому +4

    You had the right idea of the Tet Offensive - the City of Hue, was one of the major cities that were over-run, and then recaptured.

  • @OfficerCharon
    @OfficerCharon 3 місяці тому +2

    Your face when he started describing the Beehive rounds. Magnifique!

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  3 місяці тому

      This gave me nightmares 😅

    • @91GT347
      @91GT347 3 місяці тому

      My Dad was artillery in Vietnam. He told me they literally nailed a VC to a tree with one of those. They are nightmare worthy.

    • @phildicks4721
      @phildicks4721 2 місяці тому

      @ToonStory-fh4gn...Nightmare is putting it nicely. From what I've heard, the Americans and the Australians had to stop using them because it was giving PTSD to the troops detailed to count and recover bodies.

  • @OriginalLictre
    @OriginalLictre 8 днів тому

    One of the factors resulting in the decommissioning of the Ontos was that the recoilless rifles that were used had also been removed from use in the U.S. arsenal, meaning that maintaining the weapon system in the future would require re-engineering it to use either use another type of recoilless rifle, or retired recoilless rifles would have to be acquired to function as a spare parts stockpile.
    As an additional factor, the conduct and practices of the Vietnam War left a lasting mark on American military doctrine, resulting in at least a 15 year period before the next major ground forces engagement, which was the 1991 Gulf War, comprised of Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm. The Vietnam War was fought against an enemy that had not directly attacked American forces, major proportions of their combat forces were not in uniform, and the objectives were either static, or subject to the constantly varying whims of politicians. There had been no actual clearly identifiable and achievable victory condition in Vietnam.
    It was not until after the 9/11 attacks that the U.S. military was forced to once again engage in large-scale deployment against an enemy that was not clearly identifiable, since the terrorists did not wear either uniforms or a consistent identifying device, and engaged by preference by means of ambush, traps, snipers, and other aspects of asymmetric warfare against the more numerous, better equipped American and allied forces.

  • @marcpilati5597
    @marcpilati5597 4 місяці тому +5

    Always great to see your videos pop up!
    I think you would enjoy a video by The Fat Electrician called: The Limping Lady; About a WW2 spy.

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  4 місяці тому +4

      Thank you for this recommendation :)

    • @MrVvulf
      @MrVvulf 4 місяці тому +3

      The Limping Lady video was my Dad's favorite.
      He was stationed in Berlin from 1961 to 1969 as a voice intercept linguist, first with the US Army, and then for the NSA. He translated communications of the East German Gov't, the Stasi (secret police) and the KGB. He spoke 9 languages.
      His last additional duty at NSA was to chair the Cryptologic Professionalization program still used by the NSA, FBI, and CIA.
      He retired in '95 and died 2 weeks ago.

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  4 місяці тому +3

      @@MrVvulf thanks for sharing your story. I'll do it as soon as I can mate

  • @ripvanwinkle2002
    @ripvanwinkle2002 4 місяці тому +2

    "in the history of human creation, next to war.. all other things pale by comparison" ~GS Patton

  • @greggwilliamson
    @greggwilliamson 4 місяці тому +2

    I would love to have one of those to play with. My Brother was in Vietnam. SeaBee, building Marine Fire Bases.

    • @ripvanwinkle2002
      @ripvanwinkle2002 4 місяці тому +2

      pretty much the only thing tougher than a Marine IS the SeaBee who got there first to dig his trenches..
      Semper Fi to your brother!

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  4 місяці тому +2

      That must be a funny toy, indeed!

  • @thomasnelson6161
    @thomasnelson6161 4 місяці тому +3

    I've spoken with you a little about the French in north florida in colonial times. I just learned that the county that the city that the old French fort is in(sorry for the run-on) has a French name. It's called Duval County. Which I believe is an anglicized version of DeVille

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  4 місяці тому +2

      Hey! Thanks for the follow-up. Actually I think Duval would be in French "Duval" too. It means "from the Valley" (the "Val", or the "Vallée") :)

    • @thomasnelson6161
      @thomasnelson6161 4 місяці тому +1

      @ToonStory-fh4gn yeah, that was just me making an uneducated guess. I've just been looking into the history of the first coast region and I'm finding lots of interesting history. My grandfather is even buried at the oldest protestant church in florida, and I live next to the 3rd oldest now. My family has been here 202 yrs now. When they arrived they were among only 12oo pioneers and homesteaders. Now this area has more like 2 million. My 6x great grandparents had 12 children live to adulthood. so you can imagine I have a lot of family in my area.

    • @thomasnelson6161
      @thomasnelson6161 4 місяці тому

      @ToonStory-fh4gn the county was named for the first American governor of the Florida territory, William Pope Duval. That's all I'll force on you for now, though. Thanks for your time and your interesting videos. 👍

  • @reggawardle4874
    @reggawardle4874 4 місяці тому +3

    The biggest understatement of all time, when admiral yamamota said during pearl harbour " i fear we have only woken a sleeping bear"... er yeh...that thing is pure overkill merica..😂

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  4 місяці тому +5

      Once upon a time, somebody touched an American boat and eversince the US are in rampage mode!

    • @reggawardle4874
      @reggawardle4874 4 місяці тому +1

      at least we both have a😏 special relationship with them...✌️

    • @ripvanwinkle2002
      @ripvanwinkle2002 4 місяці тому +1

      "giant*" not bear

  • @jamesgirard1090
    @jamesgirard1090 4 місяці тому +1

    You were spot on when it comes to the Tet offensive

  • @tribblefluffer
    @tribblefluffer 4 місяці тому

    Really enjoy your videos, thank you for taking the time to create and share them!

  • @Krishach
    @Krishach 6 днів тому

    I'll take eyebrows-hit-ceiling for 0:28, Alex.

  • @knightspearhead5718
    @knightspearhead5718 4 місяці тому +2

    Most tanks nowadays are considered "main battle tanks" meaning they can do pretty much everything. Unlike in WW2 where you had a bunch of different tanks for seperate roles
    I always find it stupid how much military personal complain about the brass trying there best to save lives

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  4 місяці тому +3

      Your last sentence just made me think of something Tom Hanks said in Saving Private Ryan, where he explains that the role of the soldier is to complain to his superior, who in turn has to complain to his superior, etc. The soldier's role is to be the one to complain to his superior, who in turn has to complain to his superior. Thank you!

  • @m2hmghb
    @m2hmghb 4 місяці тому +2

    I agree that bazooka tank sounds cooler then recoiless rifle tank but the difference is the bazooka uses a rocket motor but the recoiless rifle uses a perforated shell which allows gas to vent to the rear to counteract the recoil. The Tet offensive was an overwhelming victory for the US, but with how many communist sympathizers there were in the media it was spun to be a defeat in part using how many casualties were taken while not mentioning much about how many the communists lost. Good video Toon.

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  4 місяці тому +1

      I am no expert in weapons so thank you very much for this precision on recoiless rifle :) Greetings from France

  • @vladyvhv9579
    @vladyvhv9579 3 місяці тому

    When you start involving farmers, things may not look pretty, and may not have a bunch of safeguards, but they'll work, and they'll work well. You want something fixed better than new, you go to a farmer. I grew up on a farm. We always had a big pile of scrap metal out back, because we'd have to rebuild and reinforce stuff that broke, build our own gates and fences, etc.

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  3 місяці тому

      I have immense respect for farmers, an essential profession, and incredibly talented and hard-working people. It's a disgrace to see how they're treated in France. Thank you!

  • @derkhart6019
    @derkhart6019 4 місяці тому

    Fantastic content as usual my friend,that tank doesn't even look real,but they got it to work,using 50 cal machine guns,nice.
    As for those shells full of darts,are they even legit,they sound like cluster bombs,aren't they against some convention or such,speaking of banning weapons,when did they start that,an how do you enforce that.

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  4 місяці тому +1

      Yes, for darts, I wonder if that's not prohibited by the laws of war... But I'm afraid it's just like shrapnel in the end, and no worse than napalm. Thanks mate!

    • @derkhart6019
      @derkhart6019 4 місяці тому

      Well at least they were smart anuff to leave before they fired it.

    • @OriginalLictre
      @OriginalLictre 8 днів тому

      The Geneva Conventions on the conduct of warfare were among the results of World War I, in response to weapons used by both sides that were deemed too cruel or indiscriminate for use. Some of the weapons that were used in the trenches included shotgun or artillery shells that included pieces of wood (medically difficult to detect and remove with the X-rays of the time, as well as possibly causing a high likelihood of infection), rusty metal, metals known to be very unfriendly to human tissue, or in some cases, weapons that wound up always having broken glass as part of the shrapnel.
      As an example, some WWI pilots would have grenades in glass jars that were tight enough to not allow the safety 'spoon' to separate, and when flying over enemy forces, would pull the pin from that jarred grenade, and drop it. When the jarred grenade hit the ground, the glass would bread, and the grenade would explode a few seconds later, always having glass around it to become part of the shrapnel.
      Poison gas and contagious diseases were banned because they could easily spread far from a battlefield, and be absolutely indiscriminate in who gets targeted, resulting in the creation of the term "Weapons of Mass Destruction", which was later joined by the nuclear family of weapons.
      The consequences of not following those conventions means that first, the enemy doesn't have to follow them fighting you, when the word hits the media what sort of weapons you're using on the battlefield, it will be far harder to get decent people to deal with your forces or regime, and after the fighting is over, the people who used the banned weapons will likely be subject to far harsher treaty conditions than would have been the case had they not used them.

    • @OriginalLictre
      @OriginalLictre 8 днів тому

      @@ToonStory-fh4gn see my response to derkhart6019 about when and why the Geneva Conventions on the conduct of warfare were created.

  • @pamforrester844
    @pamforrester844 4 місяці тому

    Yay, lunchtime treat for me, can't go wrong with the fat electrician 😊. I say Americans finding a way to make a new weapon is almost a sure win. We gotta give farmers their due, they know how to I improvise and then throw in the military then they are an unstoppable force😊. As always thank you for the video and thoughtful commentary, I always say this but it's not hollow words, we are losing so many UA-camrs for a variety of reasons, your work is appreciated

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  4 місяці тому

      Thank you very much for the support I appreciate it so much :) Yes, never underestimade the might of the farmers!

  • @markkringle9144
    @markkringle9144 3 місяці тому

    After WW2, France tried to reestablish its colonies in SE Asia. They ended up in a fight with Ho Chi Min who had been funded by the CIA (OSS?) to defeat the Japanese. The French got a bloody nose and called in thier buddies, the USA under the SATO treaty that existed at the time. It all went downhill from there. Kenedy got assassinated, LBJ sent in more troops, etc.

  • @ninjabearpress2574
    @ninjabearpress2574 3 місяці тому

    He's right, this is the most USMC thing they've ever had.
    The difference between the Marines and any other armed force is the Marines want you to have nightmares of them coming for you.
    It keeps people honest.

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  3 місяці тому +1

      Hahaha nice way to put it, thank you!

    • @ninjabearpress2574
      @ninjabearpress2574 3 місяці тому

      @@ToonStory-fh4gn Except for Australia, all the really cool countries have a Marine Corps and I'm firmly convinced they all have the same mindset.

  • @raspycellist
    @raspycellist 4 місяці тому

    I believe Ontos is Greek for "the thing."

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  4 місяці тому

      I just had a look, and yes I think it translates like this (also "the creature"), thank you!

  • @Cody38Super
    @Cody38Super 4 місяці тому

    YO BUDDY, WHATS UP.

  • @Anarcho-harambeism
    @Anarcho-harambeism 4 місяці тому

    How is vietnam taught in france? France used to control it and we came after you left, it snowballed from there

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  4 місяці тому +1

      Very badly if I remember correctly (oh my it's been almost 20 years.... Aoutch). It's mentioned in the Cold War, but nothing more. If I remember correctly, we have 4 years at collège to talk about the whole of History since prehistory, plus 3 years at lycée to go into the History of France in more depth, putting it into a geopolitical context. So Vietnam is compacted with Indochina in the wars of decolonisation and the Cold War.

  • @666johnco
    @666johnco 4 місяці тому +1

    The marked problem with the Ontos compared to the M-48 of course is the having to get out to re-load it, so why notspend the money on more M-48's? There were zero foreign sales.

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  4 місяці тому +1

      I guess because it was funnier to at least try this bazooka stuff, and thanks to it we have a great video from TFE on this story :)

    • @666johnco
      @666johnco 4 місяці тому

      @@ToonStory-fh4gn True enough, its a good video, as a sidenote 2 yearsago The History Guy put out a video about the Dominican Civil War in 1965. The war in which the Ontos was engaged against other tanks, ua-cam.com/video/1Qq3yZji0d0/v-deo.html

    • @ripvanwinkle2002
      @ripvanwinkle2002 4 місяці тому +1

      its cheaper, faster, lighter, and scarier and proper doctrine minimize risk while reloading.and it DOMINATES in urban warfare..
      any other questions?
      the fact it wasnt sold is irrelevant. it was a grunts and crafts project not a production vehicle for commercial use..
      its like saying since the stinger wasnt sold or issued it wasnt any good..

  • @younusadiallo5094
    @younusadiallo5094 3 місяці тому

    I would suggest u check the early muslim expansion series by kings and generals

  • @alittleaccurate3080
    @alittleaccurate3080 3 місяці тому

    Holy shit you’re French

  • @chrisvibz4753
    @chrisvibz4753 4 місяці тому +1

    hey brother i think our payback, not the bad kind bur actually paying france back, was trying to help u keep vietnam but then we stayed for some reason and it was the stupidest war ever lol not frances fault tho it was our fault

    • @ToonStory-fh4gn
      @ToonStory-fh4gn  4 місяці тому +3

      Frankly, trying to hang on to the French colony in Indochina was a mistake on the part of the French. As well as becoming an impossible place to control, the French administration there was incredibly corrupt and ruinous for the country.

    • @chrisvibz4753
      @chrisvibz4753 4 місяці тому

      @@ToonStory-fh4gn i agree but to be fair they just didnt wanna give up their asian colonies bc of them losing so many men and having to surrender their homeland during the war, so after ww2 i think the french government felt like it needed to keep its colonies. just a theory though! the only reason america ever colonized the phillipines for example is bc some european powers had colonies and the usa was like “hmm if we ever wanna be a power we must colonize” but i guess that was just the thought at the time. not too sure though, most of my knowledge comes from the revolutions of usa and france, plus ww2, vietnam, gulf war, iraq war (2003) , and afghanistan war plus the overall global war on terror. so im not too in-tune with my history during colonial times.

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 3 місяці тому +1

      @@chrisvibz4753 Reasonably sure the colonization of the Philippines started out as thumbing our nose at Spain, and ended up being more of a thought experiment mixed with keeping them from falling to some other colonizing nation before a solid self-governance could get running. I mean, it wasn't but 4 years after the end of the war that we'd already started pushing them to run their own local governments. I don't think America went into the Spanish-American War with any sort of notion of actually keeping anything beyond some strategic islands with limited populations.

    • @chrisvibz4753
      @chrisvibz4753 3 місяці тому

      @@mfree80286 Yeah i agree bro, i know america is imperialist (what first world country isnt) but i know they didnt look down on filipinos bc they gave them independence on the 4th of july just like americas independence, they wouldnt of done that if they didnt like em atleast

  • @RockNRuen
    @RockNRuen 4 місяці тому

    Not to be that guy, but we as in the United States of America got involved on the French behave. Please learn more, I lost a bunch of family members to that useless war.