Trying A 9 String Guitar For The First Time!
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- Опубліковано 25 тра 2020
- I did something I am not proud of: I played a 9 string guitar for the first time.
Big shoutout to Schecter Guitars for making this possible, this was actually hilarious and awesome!
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#SchecterGutiars #9String #Djent
as a prolific air guitarist, i been playing a nein string for years.
*Slow claps*
How late my have you been saving that one?
Congratulations, you won the thread. ❤️
I love that
🤘🤘
"I feel like i'm KMAC's uglier, bearded stepdad."
Today, in sentences I wasn't expecting to hear lol
i read this comment as he said that, absolute gold
Nice Trueno 🔝
Kmac's Tesseract vocal cover though....
Collab when?
@@jamesorrell7462 me too 🤣
"I suppose I should tune this up"
wrong direction dude
exactly what i was thinking
good piont
wHy DoNt U pLaY a BaSs
Hearing that comment from you hurts my soul lol
1 word: iperyt
Because Eddie ate dynamite, good bye Eddie. No more dynamite eating Eddie on a bass.
Are you trying to put rob scallon out of business
Well, considering Fluff used to ( and still might) mix for Rob Scallon
When it comes to djent andrew baena already did it. ;)
Rob actually played a 9 string a couple times on videos
@@ThunderExpress signature one right?
@@eemilhilden4202 that's a weird way to spell Kmac2021
Love Schecter Guitars! I'll admit, I'm a bit jealous :)
Let me know when we can order Paul Gilbert fingers to go with that🤘🏽
No lie i love that guitar but I HATE the inlays. :(
Glenn, a 9 strings guitar is just an excuse to get rid of the bassist. Admit it.
Well, would you look at who it is...
Glendma do you think my line6 could handle one of these or would I need a peavey??
Christ.... I held off on a SEVEN string for my whole life, bought a 7 string..fell in love with it.. bought an 8 string.... ......fell in love with it.... but I just don’t think I can go this far lol........
_but goddammit it’s so tempting!!_
Did you get one? If you’re not sold on it yet, check out darko us. They play most of their songs in drop a (but an octave down with a 9 string).
Now that's a neck to challenge even Corey Taylor
🤣
It's a challenge to corpsegrinder LMAO
@@jakemode im glad the only one who thought this 😂
maffoo o that’s a fight I’d love to see 😂
More like George Fischer lol
Been playing my Schecter C-9 almost exclusively for 3 years now. Absolutely love it. The only downside is that it makes regular 6-strings feel like cute little ukuleles. I’ll likely be sticking to 9-strings for the foreseeable future.
I guess that's because of the different scales
makes playing 6-string guitars feel like a breeze in comparison
I highly doubt you play a 9 like a 6 string guitar should be played.
My nigga👍
cant wait for the "does fluff djent" comments
Like the one you just posted
But does he J-pop?
Ha! Check mate, your move Scales 😌
Dont you mean does Djent even Fluff??
@@benjiisinner1332 do you even Djuff?
The public needs to know!
That guitars neck looks like corpsegrinders neck
One of the more accurate statements ive seen.
truth
Out of the mix, it sounds like a detuned six string played through a line 6 spider 3 75w that had its speaker kicked in.
I LOVE the sound of the 9th string. It's something else, and once you've experienced the C# it's impossible to go back.
It makes way more sense to tune a 7 string extra low than to get a 9 string in my opinion. Even seven strings are unnecessary if you’re just playing metal rhythm and don’t do a lot of high-register lead stuff.
I never understand why people buy extended range guitars and then almost only play in the low end range. You’re spending more money and making your life harder for no reason
@@DingDongDaddyFromDumas it's just not the same. A 9-string is made specifically for that, which has a few ramifications, the most important of which is scale. The sound of the 9th string on an instrument that is made for that would not be remotely the same with a 26" scale or something like that.
@@DingDongDaddyFromDumas Bro just no.
@@reezlaw You realize extended scale guitars exist right lol?
I just meant having 8 strings is unnecessary, obviously the average six string can’t be tuned that low. But a 28 incher would be just fine.
Also it varies by guitar and string gauge is a factor, but I have a 26.5” six string that I’ve tuned to drop F with an 80 gauge for the F and it got the same clarity as a meshuggah tone.
But yeah the scale length is what matters, not the quantity of strings. If you mainly play the low strings, you’re making your life sooo much harder buying an 8-9 string guitar.
@@DingDongDaddyFromDumas
It really isn't that much "harder," I don't know what you're on about with that.
You're also forgetting that play feel, play experience is different with each quantity of strings, and that each also changes how one approaches the instrument.
Some people just prefer the feel of the extended range instruments. Nothing wrong with that.
And besides, the idea that people who get extended range guitars only play on the low strings is just silly.
There is this thing called "sweet spot" when it comes to pretty much everything. And a 7-string is a sweet spot for me when it comes to electric guitars.
7 is low but still has the cut that you'd expect a guitar to have in the mix. 8 and up really demand that you make some room with your bass territory.
@@DustinAlford - agreed.
My problem with a 9 string is that even with extended scale to compensate for the tension, that low C# will always have kind of a loose attack, no matter what string gauge you use, or even if you boost the front end of your signal with an overdrive.
Adrian Hinkley except for some fan fretted 9 strings I totally agree!
@@DustinAlford yeah, it also pushes the limits of what speakers you're running in your cab too. I've found a low F# on my 7 is about as low as I go on my mesa 4x12 before the v30s start to fart out when I do anything more than single note stuff.
I've got the normal 6 string version of this guitar and honestly, it's a solid piece. Love it
I'd take the 6 over that silly thing any day.
Once you pick up a 9 string and go back to a 6 strong, its only then that you realize how easy it is to play a 6 string. I went up 10 levels in a day by just picking up the 9 string
Fanboy moment when you mentioned talking to Stef from the Deftones
Also like his explanation of the value of the 9 string! Made me imagine what you could do with clean tones on that thing
I find that the more strings you have, the tighter your playing needs to be. Obviously you can be tight as balls on a 6 or 7, but as soon as you get an 8 or 9 you definitely need to learn to mute a whole lot more.
This is why I bought a baritone 6. I can barely play six strings tightly, so a baritone means I can tune it down to 8/9 string levels of low and there’s three less strings to mute lmao
I would blow on that beast with my so called technique......good job Fluff!
@@deviltelletubbie in an 8 string, the F# is in an awkward middle ground... Can't have too long scale, or will break the high strings. Can't have thinner strings, or it'll be flabby. Multiscale may solve this issue BUT you'll have to stretch further when riffing below the "neutral fret". It will be impossible to play some chords in first 3 frets...
Sometimes I wish I had a 30+ inch scale baritone for tight low tunings
Harianto Adriprasetyo
Again, that’s why I play on six strings in Drop F and F#! Totally eliminates the difficulty of playing chords on those strings. As long as you don’t mind missing those three high strings baritones are basically perfect.
If you don't have big hands, I would advise against getting anything above a 27'' neck (without testing it out first, of course). I have decently big hands and my baritone 8 string (29'') absolutely kills my hands on the lower frets.
You've gotta play in classical position! Try it that way and the surf board becomes far more manageable, your fingers can reach everything comfortably (at least on an 8 string)! My 8 string Hellraiser feels comfy af as long as I play in classical position.
For newbies this means switch the leg on which your guitar sits, for me this is comfortable period, for even 6 string
I started on a Dean ML, and I honestly find it uncomfortable to not play in classical position now. The ML shape is perfect for it, and I feel constrained in "normal" position now. The angle makes finger stretches more difficult, reaching the higher frets feels like I'm having to reach around my torso/mash my arm into my side to get my hand up there, and my right arm/should gets tired from holding it up to the side like that. Classical feels so much more natural, aside from the fact that you may need a strap depending on the shape of your guitar. One other nice thing about classical is that it's much closer to standing position, so it doesn't feel super different from sitting like when I was used to "normal" position.
@@joeb3590 AMEN Joe! I hate seeing the usual sitting / guitar on the right leg position... so unnatural!
Wait people actually don't play in the classical position? Didn't even know there was a name for how I played the guitar. Any other position seems odd.
@@dashvandelay4480 I always find my back aches playing classical.
"I'm still waiting for an 11-string." - Nigel Tufnel
Being a guy with larger hands, I jumped from 6 to an 8 string and found it to be much more comfortable and I've been eyeing that Schecter for a while now
Funny thing, I have smaller hands and they also felt more comfortable to me... I also gravitated towards 8 and 9 string guitars because I liked the way they sound (when produced well) and loved the possibilities!
I own this guitar, I found it used on ebay for 550$ and alternate back-and-forth between it and my used RG2228, and I love it! Solidly built, feels great, it's heavy, but what do you expect from a 9 string made out of Mahogany. Couple of things I do want to say about it though, seeing how you said you were eyeing this I assumed you've done your research, but I feel inclined to uh.. give my two cents for lack of a better way to say it.
01. Unlike the Hellraiser C-9, Schecter's other 9 string, this guitar does not have locking tuners so you'd have to get your own set if you want those. Hipshot sells a set of locking tuners for 9 strings for ~100$, but they are limiting on what string gauge you can throw through them: The tuning head for the 9th String can go up to a .104, and the 8th can go up to a .84, so depending on what you're trying to go for string tension wise that may be a problem. I have them and mine and I think they're great, they hold tuning well (I primarily play half-step down / C Standard)
02. Also unlike the Hellraiser C-9, this guitar has a 30" scale length, while the C-9 is 28". This has it's own pros and cons to it, namely it can be unwieldy if you're not used to something that long... but if you have something like the Ibanez M80M, or something similar you should be fine... because added string tension is wonderful. One of the biggest issues you're going to find is that not many places my strings that are long enough to fit the instrument, I use Stringjoy.. who has a custom string pack maker and the largest size that make is a .90. On this guitar, that .90 in a low C# or C feels better than a low F# or F on a regular 8 string... and the 8th string feels even better.
I still will say this though it can super jarring from the 27" RG2228 to the 30" Platinum 9, but still if you want to get your inner Josh Travis on and tune down to A0... you basically need the 30" scale.
So yeah that's just my two cents... my two very long cents (I have a problem). I do hope this helps!
I had the same "too many strings" issue with my Schecter 8 string but love it now - it has the fullest tone that I've ever heard!! No regrets at all.
Now just plug it into a Dual Rec that's in the loop of a JCM 800 that's in the loop of a 5150 and the meme will have reached it's final form.
Someone would buy that on a kemper
@@PapaWheelie1 Anyone would!!!
"So this is my clean sound..."
Can I get that and Floyd version?
because I like to spend a week or two tuning my guitar after I restring it 😃
You'll have to get a Kahler if you want a trem
@@wesleyzimmerman94 Agile does 8-strings with Kahlers
Doesn't agile have a ten string with a trem? Lol
@@n7warlock22 It's A kahler as that's literally the only option for a trem on anything more than 8 strings
yeah, I just wonder how easy it is to get other pickups for it in case you wanted to swap.
I love how people get guitars that have 7+ strings and only use the 3 low strings 😂
Well cus that's what they're paying for
@@jlf6458 You can get something like a long-scale 7-string and adjust and tune it as low as 9-string if you really just use the low stuff... just like 6-string baritones...
@@jlf6458 You probably could get away with just 6-string baritone but most of them don't have enough scale-lenght for this low stuff. Multiscaled/fanned frets might do the trick though
Tosin Abasi and Rob Scallon must be only two exeptions
"Nooooo! You can't just play the lowest 3 strings on a 9 string! You're playing it wrong just tune down!!!"
"Double drop B go brrrrr"
Gatekeepers suck. Quit being one.
Did you add the 9 string to the intro music for just this video? Something sounded different and "flubbier" lol.
I thought the same thing.
That look after you got done playing the riff was absolutely priceless!
KMACs bearded brother hehe. Love to see you rip it up on 7 strings.
holy shit dude, lol. that riff was sick. ive never heard someone play a 9 string that was djent. sounded really cool. also, dig the fashion choices in this video.
Watch Mike Gianelli
I love the platinum series from schecter...the aluminum binding is the shnizz!! I just have a 6 string, got it used for a ridiculous low price, and I love it...perfect metal guitar...looks great, it's light, it resonates, plays great, so much bang for the buck...!!! I wish they had these when I was just starting out...my first guitar was such a clunker it was hard to get going...
So theoretically you can play Children of the grave and Paranoid on one guitar without having to change the tuning
Basically, yeah.
I feel like a 9 string could be used as a bass and guitar together.. definitely an interesting guitar
I still don’t think anything will be as insane as this one guy who played a six string bass but with 2 lower strings and his lowest string was a .200 lmao
I do that lol, 43-208 for G C F Bb Eb Ab
SilverDoesMC I’ve personally never felt the need to go with strings those big but more power to you lmao, the thickest I go is like .140
The riff you came up with is pretty great to be frank. I know that because I watched this video yesterday and the melody kept playing in my head until I came back to the video to listen to it again.
I wanted to hear more of that song, sounded dope.
I think these 9 string guitars and what not are basically a new instrument to learn all together can't deny the potential
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Beyond 7 strings is just too damn much lol. But too each their own for those who play these.
Just got my 1st 7 string. Same guitar, damien platinum and i love it. That neck is so smooth. Just going to take some getting used to.
Love the bat inlays!
When you did the tune, it sounded really cool.
Love my 8 string Shecter Diamond Series C8 hybrid. Swear its the first 8 string that feels "small" if that makes sense. It's 28" scale but it "feels" as comfortable as a 6.
Switched to a 7 last year, never will go back
But 7 is the limit. 8 is too many, 9 is way too many. I keep my 7 in standard with a dropped A
@@Ottophil There is no objective limit.
Same man! Now I’m waiting on my ariestides 080rs! Extended range have made guitar fun for me again and gives me different keys to write for my singer
@@riffmania my teacher has an aristides 060 and he loves it he had a les paul before
I switched last year as well. I love my 7. I may get an 8 and a 9 just to have them but I don't think I would use them much.
I would've bought a o string, but the only ones I found where too expensive and none of them had a mat finish. So I just got a 7 string that actually had that nice mat finish at a good price. And I love it! It was the first guitar I ever played that had more than 6 strings. And it was also the first instrument I figured out how to play without any external information outside of my own knowledge of the usual 6 string! I learned so much about music that way! And it actually helped me figure out how to play the regular 6 string even more!! It's like just that one string multiplied my skills 3 times over!!! 🤘😛💥🎸💥
Fluff starts his “you could have bought a bass” series.
*should have
Man, I miss that guitar. I use to have one and sold it to pay rent lol ☹
But yeah that guitar really helped me creatively. I played different when using it! Super fun guitar. Also its really solidly built!
This is the “kids without jobs” starter kit.
You get a thumbs up for the Deftones shout out.
Never thought about 9. Ive got a ibanez gio 7 string, and totally dig playing that. I figured 8 would also be a cool experience, but. From watching you. I kinda want to play a 9 now.
Well that is the first 9 hes played. I mean when i got my 7. I coudlnt play it for shit. But i am just saying. I think with a little time and some yt vid instructions it could sound pretty damn good. Hell i thought the tone of it was sick anyways
#goddamn man, the sound your play is very cool, please more dude !
Yes man, is really serious, the tone is pretty cool !
According to YT autosubtitles, your show is now called "Wrist Spirits in Gear"...
I recently got a Digitech Drop pedal and I'm still doing some A/B comparisons as to how transparent using the pedal with a 7-string is to get down into the 8-string range against my actual 8-string guitar, and so far it's sounding good. The feel of a 7 is just so much more comfortable for me personally. But I get the super prog AAL sort of people that need a ton of vertical range on any given fret.
Better call Tosin, dude.
The 'ühh' at 01:26 kills me every time😂
2:43 what my guitar always sounds like when i try to do a self setup
Oh, you got the best 9sting Schecter out there. Basically it’s one of the best of the 9strings you can buy in almost any big shop
I'd totally buy this only cuz I love Schecter guitars so much and this looks incredibly badass. I would love to experiment with some 9-string Black Metal. 🤘🏼
Sounded pretty good, the lower notes had a fair amount of definition. But . . . . . and I can't emphasize this enough. . . . . . those inlays are atrocious. It would look better with no inlays at all.
Agile (Rondo Music) offers a few 9-strings with no inlays. IME the necks are a slight bit thinner, too.
That's my problem with schecter, they make great metal guitars and have a solid range of leftys, but I can't get past those 14-year-old emo edgelord bats. They have a few with shark teeth inlays, but not on anything I want.
@@neonlights_12 only the Damien has bats. I think the Hellraiser has Roman numerals, and I know the apocalypse does. The C1 Platinum has regular dots but IIRC it is mechanically the same as the Damien (wood, pups, etc).
I have the 8 string version of this and I dig it don’t really play 8s really now though Six strings for life
love the GR hat
I thought that was a McDonald's bag on the floor until I realized it was packaging paper.
😂😂😂😂😂
I tried that guitar 4 years ago, it makes sense only played through a bass amp, indeed it's a bass + 4 extra strings
I have the 6 string version of this and may be getting the 7 string version. It gets meh reviews but I love it.
I think people are getting mixed up, partly due to marketing, when they seek tuning lower versus getting extended range. With a bit of messing around I had a 2nd guitar 6 string, set up with a 7 string set; I just omitted the high e string and used the low B. What matters is string gauge and scale length (the distance between the nut and bridge, where the string is actually vibrating).
Eventually I got a cheap used Jackson 7 string which I didn't play for ages. Recently I got back into guitar, I'm using a lot of pedals on synths and it was natural to try the same technique again. So I got a 9 string set (lol) with the bottom being heavy and balancing out light: .105, .80, .64, .46, .34, .24., .16, .11., .09. It cost the same as a set for 8 string so why not haha and predictably the .80 or low F#1 standard on an 8 string is the sweet spot for basic distortion power chord stuff. I have it tuned up to G1 which is the same as whole step down from Drop A tuning with a 7, that's standard Drop D but with a low B. However that heavier gauge really helped with stability. I'm going to try messing with the .105 gauge string one more time but C#1 or drop B just doesn't do it for me. Notably it was stable physically, it just wasn't to my taste. Clean however, I was able to play "bass chords" which I find awkward on my bass so it far from useless for the right person. You can totally play bass like this. The low E is around .100 after all.
So my basic message is if you want to mess around a bit you can take a hobby-horse guitar or whatever and restring it with a balanced set (for 15 bucks, it's kind of a fun experiment) and from there you might choose your own gauges individually. I think the push to sell extended range 8 and now 9 string guitars is creating this "conventional wisdom" that you need to have one to reach these lower notes. These instruments offer a lot of possibilities for alternate tunings and chord voicing which I think is the best argument for them. But, for what most people seek in the world of low tuning, a cheap 2nd guitar with no more than 7 strings is probably best, if you tinker it will cause you to learn as well, a way better option until you know you want an extended range . . . after all you could go up and not down! No reason you can't move the bridge or deviate from the conventional gauges to open up tuning possibilities.
That little song snippet was pretty awesome. Wish it was longer.
That thing is WICKED 🤘😁🤘
Just a couple of thoughts:
-bass guitar or
-standard guitar and an octaver pedal
And if you want very high notes, consider a ukulele or a mandolin.
Sure, because an octaver sounds just like a 9-string
Your tone was badass on the riff you posted over drums. Gettin Tone is hard on extended range
I have the 7 string version from the Damien Platinum range from Schecter, and I absolutely love it. Not sure if I could take the leap to the 8 or 9 string, though.
People forget that the reach you get in each position is so much different. Like, you can stay in the same position on the neck on a nine string for certain riffs that would require jumping back and forth between positions on a seven. It becomes real economical in those cases, it's not just simply just about getting the lowest chug.
Haha I want one ,
heavy metal, monster sound !thx for demo vid
9 string guitars are the guitar equivalent of lifted pickup trucks with truck nuts.
I love the sound so much man. Just reminds me of some good deathcore like Shotgun Surgeon or Oceano.
Hell yeah Dixxon Flannel! Haha sweet video too
Sweet shirt from “The Bunn” Fluff! Thanks for the great vids
Your so.lucky for someone who owns a guitar business to jst say ya want one... That type of stuff never happens to us normal people. Love your channel by the way u rock🤘💀
Raise the action, get a slide. Use it like a metal lap steele
I just saw one in person today at GC. Had to pick it up & plug in. I dig it but it didn't follow me home today.
Hey what computer tuner programming is that? I'm ready to venture into that world of guitar but don't know where to start and what to buy. Simple question but...how do you get the tone from the computer to transfer through the guitar the computer fx to your amp? Maybe not as hard as I think it is but some help is much needed.
I jumped from a 6 string to an 8 years ago and never regretted it. The only downside is feeling like a standard 6 string is the size of a ukelele when you switch back.
Nice vid fluff
I always assumed that the ground would just start to shake whenever you’d play that lowest string, honestly
Thats Amazing
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Damn UA-cam translations.
Awesome! 😊
Definitely want a shirt like you have the end with the pedal in it
Great hat!
had the schecter 8 string hellraiser loved that guitar
Your amp or modeler needs a compressor or overdrive pedal to focus the guitar tone,
Nice !
Those OG bat inlays. I still remember whey they appeared on the Diamond series of guitars.
Dixxon flannel on point!
Are schecter going to be happy with that “not that bad” review 😂😂
When does a guitar become a bass? I was always a six string guy, but recently picked up a Harley Benton fanned fret 8 string. After a fret level, heavier gauge strings and raising the action a bit, it's a lot of fun! I don't think I'll ever be solely an 8 string guy, but now, I definitely understand the appeal.
I have a 6,7, and 8 string guitars. I think the neck on my 7 is my favorite of my guitars, but the 8 is just a bit big for me. I have small hands though. YMMV That was pretty cool for them to just ship you that guitar. I’ve almost bought schecters a few times. Just haven’t because I couldn’t try them in person.
I bought a 6 string Schecter guitar the demon 6 with the rose floyd and whammy bar it was on sell... its part of the diamond series.
If the Lord will’s one day i would like to find one of these for sale. I don’t know if they are permanently discontinued. The 7 string is available but the 9 is not available. What was so cool about this guitar is despite that I don’t like the look when I heard it on sonic drive studios channel the sound was so impressive and nearly mimicked my prs fatback that I didn’t care about the looks and for a guitar to do that to a player is something I think we can all understand as being a moment when you recognize a piece of stand out gear.
Did you ever see Justin Lowe’s Video for the Ibanez RG90BKP, of course at this time he played the guitar already for quite awhile and he told online that he was transferring all After the Burial Songs so that they could be played on a 9 string guitar......i still get goosebumps and almost tears in my eyes then i watch his video for Ibanez 😔🎼🎸
Originally i would have been happy with a baritone 6 string in 30,31.5 inch scale length, for less strings, but they are not popular which means high custom pricing, so i just went with ibanez m80m, at the time it was £919 British pounds, now it's 1400,so it worked out a good deal
Awwwww....damnit I thought you were gonna roll with it.....sounded good.....I haven’t played anything over a 7 string.....thing looks like a monster !
The first time I tried a 9 string type guitar was an all black acoustic at Chicago Music Exchange in March. Most interesting