How to diagnose No Spark on Honda / Clone engine
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- How to diagnose No Spark on Honda GX / Clone engine. On the bench today I've got a Predator 212, Honda clone engine that had a random no spark issue. It would run for a while and then all of a sudden stop sparking, but now it doesn't spark at all. In this video I will go over everything I did on the ignition system to Verify continuity on the kill switch and measuring resistance on the Primary and secondary coil.
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We have hurricane Ian heading towards us in Tampa Florida and of course my brand new generator wouldn't start right out of the box. I saw the spark plug had no spark. I didn't know what all of the wires did until I watched your video. I disconnected the oil sensor and on/off switch like you suggested and it started right up! (Yes, I put the bottle of oil they send and the level is good). I don't know which was the problem but it runs great now. You really saved my family. Thank you so much!
Glad to hear that you got that Generator running happy I was able to help. Be safe
Me personally would just buy a new part, you sir is one smart guy and respect to you for making this video
Hey hey thanks for dropping by. I sure appreciate you watching
@@TheRustyRooster I appreciate the time and effort and thanks for the knowledge
Thanks. Now have to go through the same. Was running good until pull cord broke replaced that and plug and now it won't start. 212 as well.
Good luck. It's easy, you got this. Thanks for watching
THANK YOU for the very explicit way of explaining! My trouble turned out to be the oil sensor.
Glad you found it. 🐓👍🏻
thank you so much i watched this video and immediately found the issue on my engine. wish i could like the video twice
Hey hey I'm sure glad it helped out
Very good electric troubleshooting, down to earth explanation and colorful pronunciation reminds me of western Ukrainian language, absolutely love it!
Thanks a bunch for dropping in and leaving a comment. It's much appreciated. I'm glad you found some enjoyment in the video
Yo from the 🇬🇧.. the old boot well I never.. good one rusty mate..
Thanks Mick I sure appreciate you watching
That's what my Honda GX 200 Honda motor is doing thanks a least I have something to work of now no spark
Hope to get it running
You can do it!
You my friend are a character. Very detailed walkthrough. Thoroughly enjoyed!
Thanks KB I appreciate your support
Thank you I am not a beginner but I'm not a professional but I was fixing up a customer's minibike with a 212 and it randomly had no spark so I cleaned off the flywheel and magneto that did nothing UA-cam was my last resort I took the oil sensor wire off and it started first pull
Bingo Daddy Rabbit... glad it help out
So you sanded the magnet but not the coil. Seems like a halfazz job to me. Why? Perfect time to do it. They both are affected by resistance from rust. Reminds me of my Half a job Ex.
yep, your right on both points
Lololo 😂
"Thats got fire there, daddy rabbit!"
yeah buddy ya got that right
Excellent advice, told me exactly what I need to know!
Glad it was helpful!
Clean the coil with a drill with a wire brush . also use it on the flywheel magnet and all the way around .should do the trick
Good tip!
Great fix Daddy Rabbit!! I love the sound effects too brother......lol. Keep up the great work.
Hey, thanks for all positive feedback Detective
thx i had enough info to get my old motor running
Man thats great to hear. Glad it helped out
Big thank you I live in Florida had to get the old red ready thanks again
You're welcome. I'm so glad you found it useful
Great video Rooster. Thank you for the sticker. I do love my 1/4 in impact driver though. Saves a lot of wear and tear on my wrists.
Sure thing Brian, as for the impact old habits are hard to break for me.
@@TheRustyRooster I definitely agree with this statement. It's like gaining your youth back when you get a impact tho haha. Much love brother. Love the content
Single cylinder motors, c130 airplanes; troubleshooting steps are more or less the same. Buddy, I can get shit to run! Cheers. Thanks for the tips.
Thanks, i have those day also
How's she goin'? You tracked this problem down like a boss!!! Nice going. Good info on how to track a problem one step at a time!! Take care!!!
Thanks a bunch Grampie I appreciate that
RUSTY, I LOVE YOUR IMPACT GUN SOUNDS , GREAT VIDEO AS ALWAYS !
Hey hey thanks for that
@@TheRustyRooster YOU'RE WELCOME MY BROTHER .
great video I'm glad you found the problem I have a new motor just like yours no sparks I checked everything like you said everything is new and checked well but still no spark is there anything also that I can check?
Double check the kill wire from coil to switch.
Check oil
Disconnect oil alert
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Great video! I own one of them dohicky fancy meters and don’t know how to use it! 😂
Isn’t it amazing how much longer it takes to fix things in front of the camera? 🤙🏻🔧🦅🇺🇸
The kill switch isn’t grounded on the motor itself. The one I swapped into the single stage. I removed the switch and it was just pressed into the cowling.
Lol,, yes it does that would have been a 5 minute fix off camera
Thank you man very helpful 🎉
Sure thing, I'm glad it helped
The wire going to solenoid has to be unplugged, isolate the complete unit
💯 % correct it was isolated when I check coil
great video rooster 👍
Scotti my friend i really appreciate the feedback
Thanks very much.
You're welcome!
I can't seem to get the throttle and the springs and linage set up right, need help. New carb, coil, plug, fuel filter. Won't fire at all
No fire check oil alert and kill circuit Look up your specific engine for specs and help with linkage
would have never thought of that one.
Hey Hey thanks for watching
Great, informative video there Daddy Rabbit! You crack me up with those Impact Driver sounds.
I appreciate it T-Bone seems like folks are using impact for every bolt these days I can't bring myself to do it.
U have a good strategy to convince me to subscribe to ur utube channel bro. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching. I appreciate it 🐓👍🏻
Thank you sir! You help me with my mini bike god bless!
Man oh man thats great to hear. So glad it helped
My brand new 212 on my chipper shredder won't start, I don't think it has spark. Im so pissed.
Did you get it running?
@@TheRustyRooster havent tried yet, I got a new spark plug. Autozone didnt have a NGK so i got an equivalent, and I will unplug the oil sensor as well and give that a try, in a couple days. Its raining everyday so no hurry
YOU CAN DO IT !!!
Enjoyed your video, I got the same motor having the same problem, gonna check coil do some sanding probably, check the boot . But the wire coming from the oil sensor has never been connected to anything and ran good before , is that ok to run this motor like that ?
Not sure what you have going on there but some of there are wired for a remote kill wire. That might be what your seeing
That right there will light you up! love your channel Rooster,,,,,, you are the man! see y’all next time 🐓,,,
Thanks Steve I a appreciate you watching, I'll be catching up on my Transit Camper video this weekend 😀
What’s the R R way in determining what’s wrong with a machine that won’t run. Do u have certain things u check first, second etc. I start with fuel in the tank (fresh). Then I do the spray carburetor cleaner in the air filter to see if it has spark. If it hits at all that means u have spark- timing-compression etc. is that correct???
check the basics spark fuel compresssion and track it down
Thoroughly enjoyed rooster sir. Great content brother. 👍🏻🔧
I appreciate that
Thanks for putting me on the board!
You are more than welcome Bob
Thanks! ps your ohms were probably fine. The lead wires have a small amount of resistance. You can get a better idea of the real esistance of the coil by seeing what the ohms ar just with the leads shorted together and then subtracting that figure from whatever you read for the coil.
Man that's great. Thanks for the tips! Never crossed my mind.
Total beginner here. Trying to figure out why my dewalt power washer has no spark. It could only be an ignition system problem correct?
So I disconnected the low oil sensor, no spark. I disconnected the kill wire, still no spark.
Basically the kill wire grounds the spark if the oil is low correct? Is that why the low oil sensor connects with it?
You are correct. Did you disconnect the kill wire that is attached directly to the coil and test? If so and you had no spark test the coil itself as well as the sparkplug boot. Good luck
@@TheRustyRooster
I also wanted to ask, when we use a multimeter for these kinds of tests, what is it that we are checking for? Continuity?
Also, about the on and off switch, I saw someone using it by testing the on switch and it showed no indication, but by testing the off switch it did indicate stuff and I was a little confused by it.
Again, total beginner
And thank you so much for your response!!
@@jf922 your checking for continuity. The kill switch in the on position will have no connection to ground from the kill side of the coil.
Hope thus helps
I appreciate you!
Thanks a bunch for watching
Loose magnet or bad coil ? 15 sec in just a guess
hey hey fella all good guesses ... Thanks for watching
Rooster that was a great video sir keep them coming very interesting
Thanks Henry my friend, glad you liked it
Good Stuff Boss 👍
Thanks a bazillion
Wait put voltmeter on 200 1st time 2nd you put on 2k than you got your reading.?
Sounds like I screwed up on the reading. Hope it made sense. been a while since that video
Cool video
Hey hey, thanks for watching 🐓 👍🏻
What method u use when u have to pull a flywheel?? Do u put the bolt back on and give it a whack ??
Depends on what I'm working on most I put tension behind fly wheel and tap with hammer others i use a puller
Great vid! I learned something!
Hey, thanks a bunch David hope all is well with your new goings ons.
hey, this is me! guess I should watch. no spork on the sporker. its strapped to a super chinesiumed woodchipper.
Hey Im glad its you and your aware of it. 👍
@@TheRustyRooster the safety shut off ended up being busted. removed it and we're golden.
It runs, great job
Thanks a bunch I really appreciate you watching my little video
Any chance you're related to Jerry Miculek?
No Im not.. But I think I gave him a few shooting tips once.
Lololo good one ☝️
Great video. Very informative and entertaining.
Hey, thanks I appreciate the feedback
Good video Rusty Rooster, I hope all is well 👍
Gravelyman i really appreciate your comments. Still no snow here thank goodness.
@@TheRustyRooster I maybe done with snow here 60s next week 👍
As my dear old dad would say….. “turn that f********* racket off!
I hear ya fella, appreciate you stopping in
What if the magit is broke
Replace flywheel
man you rock love your addatude
Hey hey Billy, o-buddy I sure do appreciate you. Thanks for watching 🐓 👍🏻
Love the show, love the accent - keep'em comming RR
Hey, thanks a bunch
Great. Ill try to fix my generator.
Hope it works out for you
Hey thats a good video you got their . Well done keep up the good rusty . Till next time . Take and stay safe
Thanks Doc...
Thanks for a couple tips
Hope it helped thanks for watching
Love it
Thanks I appreciate you watching
Is that a Fluke tester??
no just a cheap tester
Nice fix 👍
Hi Joe thanks a bunch
Whoooooo❤
Thanks for watching 🐓 👍🏻
You mentioned primary and secondary system. Can U explain in more detail?? I kinda know what you’re talking about??? ( confused)). Lol
primary/ test between the kill and iron core of coil.
secondary/ test from HT lead to iron core
No! The bolts are m6 that's a 6 mm bolt with an 8 mm hex ... Impact for life, throttle control lol
Lol... I stand corrected sir.. as for impact I have them and use but I'm old school and can't seem to get in the habit of using more often. Thanks for watching.
WWRRD. ( what would Rusty Rooster Do)). That’s what I always think!! U could have went to the drawing board on this one too A picture or drawing is worth a 1000 words. Lol. Just kidding Rooster. Thanks
Great idea
You had your ohmmeter set at 200 ohms when testing the first one and 200 KILO ohms when you were testing the 2nd one. Of course if you are above 200 ohms, you won't have any readings.
In your age and mine, we can only be proud of our knowledge and the will to use and share it wisely. You obviously have the knowledge but you still need to work on your wisdom: BE HONEST AND STOP LYING AND CHEATING!
Didn't realize that had happened truly have no intention of misleading anyone thanks for bringing it to my attention ill go back and review it.
Just went back to review and Yey you're 100% correct on the ohm reading/setting.
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it.
It takes a man to admit his mistakes and it take more to go back and correct them".
Well be side the crying it did help others out so it’s a good thing he did
Always more work to do !
Never ends, thanks for watching
"Daddy Rabbit" rofl
Thanks Fella I'm just having fun
I need your help
If I can. What ya got?
I have a 212 cc Baja warrior
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Thank ya thank ya
I see you got that old ten tooth ratchet it sounds like 😂
That sound is like zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzi-it. I think not the other u said. Lol
Its a noise for sure
@@TheRustyRooster sometimes people refer to the machines as a HE and sometimes it’s a She. How do u determine which it is ?? (Confused)). Lol. I like the she’s better lol!!!!!
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